You are isekai'd as Shinji Matou the day he meets Sakura (a few weeks after the fourth war)

Can someone redpill me on circe?
she's strong right?

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Dude, it's time to stop. You've posted the same thread what, 4 days in a row now? Let it rest for a bit.

cause Kirei and Li Shuwen make Bajiquan look cool

WHAT IS A MAN?
A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS!
BUT ENOUGH TALK! HAVE AT YOU!

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Is this a quest thread? on Yea Forums?

You could try asking Kuzuki to teach you Snake Style.
It's a theoretical scenario in the OP to drive discussion and not start yelling about worms at each other.
It's worked pretty well so far.

yeah but thats kind of a one trick pony

She should be stronger than what FGO gave her, statswise.
She's got even more busted magic than Medea going by lore.

Kuzuki shows up way to late in the plot, I think.

We should ask Taiga if she can teach us Kendo, that's a martial art.

actually, who can teach us martial arts? Taiga can teach us Kendo and she's pretty good at it, Kuzuki can teach us Snake Style but i don't know when he moves to Fuyuki, Kirei can teach us Bajiquan but theres no fucking way you trust that motherfucker with anything.

Autism

Also, isn't Taiga's gramp a Yakuza boss? can't he hook us up with guns and bombs when the HGW finally starts?

The monks have dragon kong fu.
Fuyuki is a reaaonably big city so normal dojos/martial arts schools no frequented by plot relevant characters are plenty too.
Worst case you can go to Finland and learn wrestling from Luvia I guess.

That's gonna be a weird request.
The kid learning Kendo from your grandaughter suddenly asking "HEY I'M GONNA NEED SOME C4 AND A FEW SNIPER RIFLES"

just name drop Kerry, your own family name since Taiga's gramps knows them or just use a bunch of money to convince them since you have make 20 million before the 5th war starts and i doubt a Yakuza could say no to an absurd amount of money, child or no child

Isn't Sakura getting wormed the only reason she can summon Rider? Wouldn't saving her negate both hers and Shinji's roles in the 5th war?

If we decide to follow the Real life lore yes circe is superior. But we dont really have much info on her. But the info we do have, points to medea being better in most things.
Circe:High speed divine words-B
Medea:High speed divine words-A
Circe:Territory Creation-B
Medea Territory Creaton-A
But thats when it comes to generally being a caster. In a Fight she'd probably be superior Because her Np is more combat oriented.
While medeas is more a useful item in certain situations. so in conclusion, As a general servant for a war, Probably medea, but circe also would do good, Just her skills with actual magecraft, Getting a territory, and so on wouldnt be as good.
when it comes to combat, Circe will be better thanks to her offensive Np.

would you be able to save Sakura that fast? Kerry can't unless you save him with Waver and Avalon and thats kind of a shot in the dark. So unless you unlock your RM early, you can only save Sakura during the HGW when you get Caster, thus giving you access to Rider

She used a mirror belonging to some greek earth goddess + personality to summon

It's highly unlikely you can solve the worm problem before the 5th war anyway.
You could try deleting them but if deletion is limited to touch you kind of have to perform surgery on her, and risk accidentally deleting something vital regardless. It's kind of too risky.
The only other way would be getting Shiki to kill Zouken.
FGO literally gave Medea a skill stating that Circe was superior in magic to her called Teachings of Circe.

but medea has a skill that says circe is better at magecreft than her
also isn't high speed divine word only useful in a combat context

Stop making this thread you fucking faggot

Everyone always brings up that ugly Circes teaching. If you gave it a read for more then a literal second, You'd understand its in relevance to medea being able to act as a witch, It talks about how she wasnt truly a witch since she grew learning magic as a princess ,unlike her aunt circe, so learning aside her, she copied how to act like a witch when she grew up. Plain and simple.
""Medea learned magecraft while a princess, so actually, it cannot be said that she is a true witch. If she could act as a witch at all after being abandoned by Jason, it must have been because of the time spent learning with this great apprentice."
i understand the mistake tho, So no problem! :)

>high speed divine word
i still think its fucking hilarious that the King of Magic fumbles his words

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It's still dumb, you can't suddenly get better at magic.

>Teachings of Circe (キルケーの教え, Kirukē no Oshie?) is a Skill that represents the time where princess Medea learned magecraft in the temple of the moon goddess Hecate, along with another senior apprentice, the witch Circe.
>It was Circe who was the real prodigy at magecraft, but she also had a pretty problematic personality

she didnt suddenly get better. circe was the natural genius but as explained she was a very problematic child.
So while she was naturally good, she was literally a crazy witch since she had been a child, obviously meaning she'd pay attention less when the great hekate was teaching.
Unlike medea who was, if we could compare it to something, We could say " The teachers pet" always paying attention and being good, explaining their difference in skill level for High Speed Divine Words.
Here is a photo of medea lily explaining that she is the head of hekates throne. I can grab some other stuff, But for the most part is mainly lies to, we dont have much info on circe, almsot none really,. And most of the info we do have doesnt point at her being better at circe, the opposite really.

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Read the post below yours, bad timing but i already sent it, You can act as if it was a response to you aswell.

>you are isekai'd into making one successful thread
>so you just keep making it again and again

It's still fucking stupid and you know it.

>circe is a prodigy
>medea isn't
HMMMM WHO IS THE STRONGER CASTER I WONDER

And like an Isekai protagonist, I always succeed.

Hmm possibly. we really just have to wait for circe to get a major part in something, or something like that to get more info really on her.
The info we have now is scattered and small, and doesnt really mean anything for her. it doesnt help that her stats, especially the most important one, HSDW is lower.
allot of people say circe is better because in real life lore she is agoddess and whatever, but in fate she isnt.

do not get it confused. Medea is the better mage, Especially when it comes to a grail war for Usage. when it comes to combat, As i said above if you scroll iup and check, circe is superior, thanks to her having a offensive np, Unlike medea who doesnt have an offensive np.

Medea has a Dragon Summoning NP she's too brainlet to use.

>Medea is the better mage
In what regards though? All she has over circe is one rank of high speed divine words which is only useful in battle

>Tell Rin that Zouken is gonna worm her sister
>Rin complains to her father to no end
>Her father either kills or helps me kill Zouken if he wants Rin to still be his heir
>Agree to let Rin win 5th war if I can shack up with them to learn magecraft
>Saved Sakura, Rin is happier to have sis back
>Become friends with Shirou through archery club later
>The four of us against the rest
>????
>profit?

This is after 4th HGW and her dumbass dad is dead

High speed Divine words is a magical language, a fragment of a gods authority, shared via verbal Word, To command magecraft to happen.
And no its especially good in combat yes, But thats not all?
They both have it as High speed, A, and B, is in reference to their actual knowledge of the divine words. Its an actual language they have to learn, and like i said earlier, Circe was a problamatic child who didnt want to learn, while medea was a teachers pet who payed super attention. She even explains she was the first disciple of hekate, and that she was her head priest. etc. all the things point towards medea. I'll gladly answer any more questions you have.
Also she has her territory creation higher then yours, territories are pretty important for casters.

>Her father either kills or helps me kill Zouken if he wants Rin to still be his heir
lmao implying Tokiomi gives a fuck, and implyng Rin will go against daddy dearest's wishes.

user, when it's talking about Circe's problematic personality, it's probably not talking about her willingness to learn magecraft and more her tendency to transmute people into animals.

this is after the 4th war and her dad wouldn't be able to do shit

Have you looked at the description of high speed divine words?
Both ranks allows you to do pretty much the exact same thing

honestly, its really easy to team up with Rin. Rin only hates Shinji for being sleazy, in this version he wouldn't be and Sakura would clearly enjoy being around you. You can also just agree to team up for the HGW or tell her that you would give her the win since you don't want it

she refused to team up with him in saty night because "she wants to be the one to make the first move"
It's unlikely she'd want to team up with him even if he wasnt an asshole

Possibly. again i'm just trying to make a reason as to why circe has a lower Divine words rank. Since she is called prodigious, then explained She was very problematic. interfacing it with a "BUT" to show that there was a problem even though she was superior as kids when learning originally.
I mean there has to be a reason medeas Divine words skill iS higher, and she was the head priestess of hekate.

Yes? i literally just explained the difference. The general aspect of the spell is that They are able to use it fast reducing spells to extremely short lengths. i already said that.
The difference is medea has a complete understanding of said language used, while Nitocris and circe dont, hence the b rank in said skill.
anything else you guys wanna know?

for the first part i wrote, i was trying to direct it towards you lol. i sent it under the wrong Thing. letting you know.

i highly doubt she'd be willing to kill a friend that she's been around with and training for years or disadvantage herself with someone that has the clear advantage with 2 or 3 servants at hand. If you make it clear and obvious that you join the war, she would team up with you.

>there has to be a reason.
Game Balance. Servants are now balanced by shitty dev teams.

I could have swore Shinji met Sakura before the 4th grail war in passing. Oh well I guess.

how would you make it obvious without cmoing across as threatening

i agree. they are basically putting most of the effort of the fate universe into F/go and f/go is just a clumped up version of every servant, and tons of different strange rules.

so you're basically accepting the fact that it's useless

>go to her house
>"Tohsaka, I'd like to discuss the grail war."
I mean, it's not hard.

you don't really have to make it threatening? She'd be your friend and be willing to team up, if for whatever reason she doesn't want to, you can just tell her about Kirei and Gilgamesh

>archer backstabs you

>Delete the wound
>"well, fuck you too Shirou."

Archer couldn't kill Shirou so what makes you think he would kill you?

i-
no. its not hard to explain, i dont get what you dont understand, but i'll try again, i'm really trying with you.
The rank of the High speed Divine words Corresponds to the persons skill with the language, and its power.
remember as i said above, Those words are a Fraction of a Gods Authority ( authority being the almighty power gods have in fate to make things happen).
When Medea knows them more fluidly and better so she has them at A, and circe has them at B theres clearly a difference.
and are you really trying to make it seem like their main ability, that makes them THEM, ya know aog magus capable of commanding magic. useless? people like you who dont really debate, or even talk for that matter and just go.
"oh so you're saying this, hah. no thats wrong because i said so" and such are a waste to talk to.

Stop defending FGOs retarded design choices.

>M-medea's stronger even though the lore says otherwise because I said so

You know what shinji needs? Doraemon figure.
Any figure really.
Also I'm thinking of the deteriorated version of all fiction RMs, something like All fiction replica or some shit where it isn't really OP but still had the same aesthetic.

Like, you can't erase anything as a whole or anything that actually had a lingered feeling/high value to others. Like people or someshit, but you still can erase mundane shit or anything that no people care about, like shinji, or anything that happened to it.
Like, say there's this huge noble phantasm shit that appeared as a castle with labyrinth. You can't erase that NP, but you could erase its window, or maybe the door the mundane shit that people don't care about.

It's like the point of that deteriorated all fiction rm was to annoy rather than to delete (it still delet things but you get the point)
Like you need to actually think what things you need (and could) delete to actually win some fight or just survives.

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i agree with you? i dislike the lore design aspect of f/go Like its so jumbled. Why at all do you think i'm defending it?

>the lore doesnt say otherwise, But i'm going to say so b-because i like the little loli body that circe has uwu, and her cute feather hat.
>I can't understand the multiple citations showed at me saying medea is superior but uwu its okay, because queen loli feather witch.

Sorry but Circe is just better and the pathetically poorly made stats aren't evidence she isn't.

>circe is called a prodigy in comparaison to medea
>b-but muh divine words
get btfo

That's lame though.

you two are knuckle heads not worth my time. I can't believe i wasted my time bringing Citations and explaining things thorougly for your only argument to be.
"She aunt, she call prodigy, she lower rank in important ability? no care!!! she AUNT !! SHE PRODIGY!"

>well you see actually if you look at the description of this sk...
>DIVINE WOOOOOORDS
ok

Thanks for your time, ESL-kun.

It's a lame power, but erasing every handle on shirou sword during ubw is quite fun.
The potential are endless if you're actually smart.
Good character comes from limitation after all.

yea thats cute, again act like all i talked about was Divine words ( which even then is still hella important, its literally how they do magecraft) and ignore the many citations i brought about other things. but wait let me guess your response:
A- >DIVine WORds lolLL thATs ALl u cTLaked ABOut
B- >Stupid fucking cum brain lol, i dont care about ur facts, i need to worship witch loli .

You'd not be able to affect his swords by your own criteria.
>hella
Take your hurt feelings and go.

>you are isekai'd as Shinji Matou the day he meets Sakura (a few weeks after the fourth war)
sweet! i get isekaied

>you keep all of your knowledge about the series
oh boy...

>you get 25 unactivated high quality magic circuits, as a bonus. But will need somebody to activate them for you to use them. Zouken will notice if you have them activated.
pic related
>you must participate in the fifth war with Rider (Medusa), unless you can find another catalyst.
pic also related

>by maintaining a belief that the world is fictional, it is possible for you to develop a Reality Marble/Ability that allows for the erasure of anything, overuse of this power will lead to you being unable to consider anything real ever, effectively removing your ability to feel emotions.
so if i abuse it i just become me again? sweet
>Tsukihime occurs in this timeline a few years before Fate, you can choose to get involved if you want.
pic related
>you're currently in a Matou property in London, away from the war.
absolutely disgusting, brits are fags

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so this is the power.....of medeafags....

>if I abuse it i just become me again!
No.
If you abuse it you'll likely passively erase anything around you, unable to feel emotions or understand why you do anything.

this sounds like depression

LITERALY me

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Depression but with the bonus of destroying everyone and everything in your vicinity.

[X] Rape the maids

yeah man that sounds like me

So what would you use the Deletions for?
The worms obviously, but you could use the power in a more abstract way. Deleting memories for one.

The power shines if you take it to Misaki City to deal with Tsukihime shit.

Jesus Deletion is overpowered, this is why it needed a big weakness

It's got a neat weakness now though.