You are isekai'd as Shinji Matou the day the fourth grail war ends

i hope not, this somehow managed to be worse than the other

>Kalied.
Unironically almost as bad as FGO.
Feel bad for your shit taste.

Fatemonkeys have no right to criticize other people's tastes.

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I'll criticize anything I like, scum.

Feel free to come back when you're old enough to post here, shonenbaby.

I could point out the multiple glaring issues with Prisma, including the lore inconsistencies or the parallel world making absolutely no sense at all, but instead I'll just call you a fag.

how would that work? just try to remember you're deleting reality?

HOLY SHIT I GET TO FUCK SAKURA MY SOUL IS SAVED FOREVER AND NONE OF YOU GET TO ENJOY THIS HEAVEN BESIDES MAYBE SWORD MAN

don't let sword man take Sakura away from you user

>instead I'll just call you a fag.
dangit, my one weakness! how did you figure it out, you fiend?

It's not like Shirou would have a chance if we don't mistreat her

Well he probably does have a chance if you get Sakura and Shirou to be friends

stop making this fucking thread daily

She's pretty much devoted to the first person who is nice to her or cares about her.

>a mecha who is actually a mysterious heroine who is actually saber
the fuck happened to this franchise

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gachashit.

luvia is an impertinent WHORE

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How does one go about getting Luvia to fall for you?

>Kalied
based esl

By becoming an autistic boy that only cares about being an ally of justice and spouting nonsense.

We could do that.

You know, considering that heroic spirit TOHSAKA exists, I would use Shinji himself as a catalyst just to test out if heroic spirit MATOU (MAKIRI) exists as well.

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why did the artist make him into a faggot

wouldn't MATOU be different if you take Shinji's place? maybe he'd be a detached psycho after overusing All Fiction

isn't that Rider?

Picrelated.

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Why it’s so simple, all I need to do is work on achieving CHIM

>you are isekai'd as Shinji Matou the day the fourth grail war ends
Time to be a decent brother and cultivate a brocon yandere.
>you can perfectly recall any line in both FSN and FHA, as well as keeping any meta-knowledge you have from other sources
>you get 25 unactivated high quality magic circuits, as a bonus. But will need somebody to activate them for you to use them. Zouken will notice if you have them activated.
That's inferior to Sakura's count, so I should be able to have Zouken activate them and receive normal magus training instead of the worm crest.
>you must participate in the fifth war.
Replacing Sakura, got it.
>without a catalyst you summon a random Servant from here
typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Alter_Ego_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Sitonai)
Interesting. How does she work in the Fuyuki Grail system, I wonder?
>your servant is an additional servant to the 7 canonically summoned, for reasons.
So, are there 8 masters? Is Sakura still summoning Rider? This seems problematic.
>by maintaining the belief that the world is fictional, it is possible for you to develop a Reality Marble/Ability that allows for the erasure of anything.
Interesting. Would definitely get in the way of human relationships, but I guess this makes me enough of an autist to be a TM protagonist.
>Tsukihime occurs in this timeline a few years before Fate
Cool. RM should help with seducing the girls, especially if it can delete concepts.
>you're currently in a Matou property in London, away from the war.
I'm not going to mess with the Clock Tower as an 8-year-old. Better to wait and go home.

>find a way to cure Kiritsugu and have him rescue Illya.
Fuck that. Illya isn't perfect until F/SN, and Kiritsugu needs to die.
>Seduce Rin
Fuck that. Only worse girl is Bazett.
>deworm Sakura
Reality marble should handle that pretty easily.
>seduce Arcuied
>win the war without teaming up with every single servant
>seduce everyone
Again, the RM seems to make this trivial.

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>oh for fucks sake.
Sumanai, user. Sorry to disappoint.

What's this point of this? A self-insert fanfic with Shinji's body?

Because it's fun.

Even in Shinji's fantasy, Saber is kind of disgusted and Medea is more into her than anyone else.

And here's more art
imgur.com/gallery/bfCNko5

all dogshit

Watch Shirou high jump all evening long.

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>>user claims he can top Shirou in autism battle

God luck with that, creating nonsense autistic phrases which actuallly have some meaning behind them

With your reality marble there is no such thing as "hard mode"
>find a way to cure kiritsugu and rescue illya
erase his curse/illness away so hes back to 100% erase an obstacles that get in the way of me reaching the einzbern castle
>seduce rin
erase any negative emotions she would have towards me
>deworm sakura
erase the worms
Seriously, there is no point in threads like this when you give yourself the ability to "erase" whatever gets in your way.

These threads are our new Respawn point!

We're just going to keep reliving the Holy Grail war as Shinji over and over until we properly complete at those hard mode goals!

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Enjoy being a broken human being who can never consider the people who he set out wanting to save as anything other than fictional toys.
Also the marble would still take at least 5 years to get to work at all.
Longer if you don't want Zouken to notice what you're up to.

But I don't want to seduce Rin

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that kinda works with the meta of the power though do you really want to see everyone as toys you want to play with or people you want to make happy?

Can I instead be sent to the Prisma Illya world?

Go find Zelretch and ask him then.

Why 5 years? Where is this number coming from? Also there needs to be clear and defined limitations to your RM otherwise anyone can just say some bullshit like "I'll erase my concept of death so I'm immortal" "I'll erase Kiritsugu dying 5 years ago from the very root itself so he's alive again." etc

That's Avalon user, you have to suffer through life first.

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you can't just get a Reality Marble just like that user, you need to actually study and train

I'm sure lurking on Yea Forums for 5 years gives you enough autism to start projecting your own reality.

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Just an estimate, I would also imagine that you could only erase things you could observe. So without actually reaching the Root or getting the MEoDP you couldn't do either of those.
You might be able to undo your own death after dying though.

Even if you could only erase things you can observes that's still enough to trivialize the 5th war. Just erase all the enemy servants.

You know, I've always wondered why Zouken did't try forcibly opening Shinji's atrophied magic circuits. That way he would have two prime pawns to use in Sakura and Shinji. There is also the fact that Shinji has an unknown sorcery trait that he inherited from his mothers side. That should also give him some kind of edge in a future grail war or at least one of his descendants that will inherit it.

it didn't really matter since Sakura was far and away better than Shinji could ever be

Strange, cuz in side material or an interview, Nasu said that if Shinji was born with working circuits he would be a mage on the same tier as Rin. All i'm saying is that it seems like a waist for Zouken to not at least toy with the idea.

I guess watching worms raping a guy isn't as much fun.

I buy bugspray and use it on Zouken.
Then I use the Matou money to get Kotomine a therapist.

I liked the Isekaied as Gilgamesh one.

Shirou's circuits were functioning, and just hadn't been opened. That's why Rin could forcibly open them.
Shinji didn't have working circuits at all; no treatment would've helped with it, and that's why he's treated as garbage.

You could do that, depends on if there's a range on it.
If it's touch only outside of the marble, you're kinda fucked.
Unless you could get a lucky hit in.

>> be me
>> have a refined taste
>> isekai'd as loli Reines
>> kill THOT fiancee and steal all magic related stuff from your useless brother
>> develop RM based on perversions
>> upgrade useless onii-sama into an onee-sama
>> go on an rampage as perverted loli with a RM possessing the powers of doujins
>> achieve world peace

Reminder: "Chariot My Love" the "noble" phantasm of Medbe exists so creating a RM based on perversions is possible

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>Hell, I like you, Emiya. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister.

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>not going over to the Emiya household and having your sister and Shirou make you delicious food

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>not learning how to make delicious food

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That's because she's not best saber which is dark/corrupted saber.

this is a really comfy isekai if you forget that Sakura gets wormed everyday and that you have to have sex with her or else she dies

>alterfags are literal cuckolds

Sweet delicate love.

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youtube.com/watch?v=hDbxS3oAFz0&list=PLWYGYSJCBkAVltCg6zPr1RE2es-QPRFFA&index=116

please go to timestamp 37:26

Spending time with Emiya's Servant.

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>you are isekai'd as Shinji Aobi

I got one. Isekai us as Kariya.

There's no reason it couldn't be a loving relationship.
Even if the worms and required sex kind of make it weird.
It's super easy to get Sakura to fall for you.
She'd love you forever if you unwormed her.

I need more of this rare pair

Find a way to seduce Luvia and Rin into fighting over you.

tf? how? Rin is a prodigy and the equivalent of 20 magus, Shinji in this situation is pretty average and only has a RM because of isekai magic

you just wanted to get laid, now you wanna love and protect your waifu forever, what a story lads

I mean
>above average number of high quality magic circuits
>actually a nice person
>Reality Marble near if not on the level of true magic
Would work, I suppose.
You would need to meet Luvia, though.

Will Heroic Spirit MATOU try to kill us?

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>you are isekai'd as Shinji Matou the day the fourth grail war ends.
>What do you do, Yea Forums?
Kill myself

what about isekai-ing into zouken

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kinda got me thinking, shouldn't polygamy be common for magus? They're basically practicing eugenics so their descendants have high quality magic circuits. Someone like Shinji in this situation with high quality magic circuits, a RM and a survivor of the HGW must be one of the most eligible bachelors for the magus community

But why.
Think of what you could accomplish.

i like this one much better than the one that makes him look like a woman

You uh
You might want to keep the reality marble bit secret from people you can't trust though.

everyone except tumblr would

well yeah, that parts kinda obvious, don't wanna get a Sealing Designations

Tumblr and the koreans. Almost all the long-haired Matou art I've seen is by korean fans.

well he does look better with longer hair but not too fucking long

I'm the one that posted the Korean fanart and even I must admit this one is by far better. I always keep forgetting Shinji is actually quite talented at archery

Why do people treat Zouken like he's the devil? Isn't he just an old man?

not as talented as Shirou though. Didn't Nasu say he could excel at everything except magic?

>get Reality Marble to point I can actually delete things I can touch before Tsukihime where I would be 13 or 14
>travel to Misaki Town, try to find a place to stay
>look for Shiki
>stalk him every day until I spot Arc
>call him a fucking retard after he turns Arc into a cross section exhibit on True Ancestors
>delete the cuts
>hope Arc responds well to this and doesn't just decide to kill both of us
>bumble around town looking for Roa with them, except Arc is much stronger now
>possibly delete Nrvnsqr
>attempt to defeat the Tohno Gland to seduce Arcuied
>see what I can do about Satsuki's whole "being an out of control vampire" situation with All Fiction
>permanently kill Roa by deletion or with Shiki's MEoDP
>return to Fuyuki, possibly get Arc to come with me if I can defeat the Tohno Gland
>delete the worm in Sakura
>have Arc fucking obliterate Zouken or just do it myself
Of course, I'd have to use the Reality Marble quite a lot and be rather distant for a while.

>Delete worms from Sakura
>It was actually April Fiction so the worms come back after five minutes

I think he would look good with hair as long as Kirei's was in the fate route's

Based and Minuspilled

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Yeah, he's supposed to be a genius polymath.

Someone posted that in the last thread.

You know whats funny, he could if he had magic circuits. Nasu once said that if Shinji was born with his latent magic circuits activated he would be a mage with as much potential as Rin since he is a natural polymath. At the end of UBW he has those very same magic circuits activated but was so scarred by what happened in the grail war that he decides to give up on magecraft.

Okay but really, what does Sitonai do?
I get that she's supposed to be some kind of goddess and a pseudo-servant in Illya's body, but not playing FGO I have no idea what her actual powers are supposed to be. How would she work as a Servant in a normal Grail War?

The problem with everyone's fangirl self-insert into Shinji's body fanfic concepts is that everyone is going to be instantly aware of Shinji's massive personality shift.

He's eight at the end of the 4th War, kids change frequently. It's not like you're appearing the night Shirou gets Gae Bolg'd.

She's like 3 seperate goddess' possessing Illya.
She'd slap everyone bar Gil.
I mean, he's like 7 years old.
If you don't suddenly start acting wise beyond your years too much, it's unlikely anybody will suspect a thing.

Another big irony. Since he is a natural polymath, he could have had a future with alchemy instead of regular magecraft. If we look at our real history many polymaths were also alchemists. Who knows, if he became skilled enough he could have probably joined Atlas Academy. Many of their students have poor magic circuits or none at all to speak of.

Even more ironic is that Zouken in life knew the greatest alchemist of all time, Paracelcus.

Shinji with magic is kinda strong dude wtf, i thought he was just gonna be a mediocre magus but nope, guess he's on Rin's level

he's like 8, people will just think he outgrew his shitty personality because he's still a child. Also, this would be around the time that Shinji and Sakura meet, his family would just assume that having a little sister mellowed him out and made him a nicer person

rin doesn't know about shinji and sakura"s relationship so befriending rin would be harder than that
if anything she'll hate you for taking her sister away from her

At least it’s not pedoshit

Ironically, Shinji is one of Nasu's favorites. It seems Type-Moon has been trying to paint him in a more serious light for the past few years now. Seems to be working cuz he is getting more popular, if ever so slightly.

Wait, Fate take place in 2004. I make a clocktower trip and play Kingdom Hearts with Waver. Maybe some Melee.

so Zouken just kinda fucked up to not at least make Shinji somewhat competent or didn't care because he already had his winning ticket with Sakura

>She's like 3 seperate goddess' possessing Illya.
Right, I get that. That's the basic premise. What I don't get is how that translates into actual action. With most of the F/SN servants, they have a pretty clear MO. Saber fights with a sword, Archer uses Kanshou and Byakuya plus occasional archery, Gil shoots NPs out of the GoB, and so-on.
Sitonai is Freya and two other goddesses I'm unfamiliar with, but Freya isn't really notable for doing much in her mythology other than ruling over other gods and spirits. What would Sitonai actually do as a heroic spirit; how would she go about fighting; that's what I'm unclear on. Does she use divine magic, like Caster? Have some kind of ice powers? Fight with that tiny sword?
FGO seems to design characters with their appearance in mind first, and not think that hard about how the design works functionally outside of the game's own weird combat system. Sitonai is one case where that leaves me at a loss.

There's also the fact that his shitty personality canonically developed in response to Sakura's becoming the heir. If anything, he'd probably be changing less in this timeline.

Rin's not that irrational, she'd be unlikely to blame an 8 year old for something her father caused.
It also depends on when you try to befriend her, if you do it in highschool when Sakura clearly likes you and she can see that she'd be more amiable.

Well, he was insane by that point in time. I personally would love a time-line where zouken was out of the picture and you introduced a young Shinji to Waver.

So how do you get sakura to like you?
Also is her being a lustful one still canon?

Rin is a perceptive bitch who always tries to be around Sakura or keep tabs on her. If she sees the always gloomy and depressed Sakura light up when Shinji is around, she'll put 2 and 2 together. Also Rin knows that her dad gave Sakura away, she's not spiteful enough to blame Shinji who had absolutely no say in it, in fact, she'll feel like she owes him one since he's the only happy constant in her life

She can freeze shit and has an EX rank bear familiar summoned along with her.

thats kinda weird that he made his favorite character into a rapist, though Shinji does have a lot of potential if he was raised right which is kinda sad, i can get liking him ngl

>how do you get Sakura to like you
literally just show her the barest minimum affection.
Sword Autist did it by accident.

when did Rin and Shinji meet? depending on when, then you can train your magic with her and become closer

There was originally a Shinji route planned but it was scrapped due to time constraints. Makes me think that the raping was probably added on after they scrapped his route.

yeah so you'll go unnoticed unless you go against Zouken

that's it!
The only way to complete the mythical Satsuki route is to use the legendary Shinji route!

Young Shinji with literally anyone else would be better off, Zouken brought out his shitty personality, Waver would only push him to do alchemy if he really wanted to study magecraft

would she try to bang you?

And then Kirei trolls us while eating mapo tofu.

be nice to her, thats it. Thats why Sakura fell in love with Shirou, that and high jump, and he wasn't even trying, you would be trying. She's starved for affection and would die for whoever showed the bare minimum for her

yeah that makes sense, cause i really can't see Shirou just being okay with Shinji raping Sakura, he kicked his ass when he slapped Sakura in front of him, Shirou would murder him if he tried anything with Sakura

Probably, eventually, yes.

considering that the worms make her want to fuck, yeah totally

She needs to, or she'll die. Worms, man.

>Use skills to seduce Ayako Mitsuzuri
>Having sex
>Accidentally call out Ryougi's name

All I want to do is eat mapo tofu with Kirei. I'm going to the church, to become his disciple.

Drink wine with Gil-kun too.

Taken from an interview with Nasu and Takeuchi

>The catalyst for Shinji Matou's birth
Nasu: Shinji is Shirou's friend and a massive jerk. But he's not just any ordinary jerk, he's a tragically confused victim of a cruel past. The character Shinji Matou came about because I thought it would be fun to have a "friend" character who was the perfect representative of the dark side of human nature. If someone like Shinji were to gain the powers of a Master, he would no doubt use those powers for evil. True to form, I had Shinji acting out every fantasy born of human greed and ambition.
Takeuchi: Since Shinji is technically a normal civilian, the player would have an easier time relating to him compared to the various superhuman characters.
Nasu: I don't know how much the player would want to related to a personality like that, though. (laughs) Shinji may have been lacking in natural talent or ability when it comes to being a mage, but as far as normal human beings go, he was definitely quite gifted. If only he had a good sidekick to help him work through his issues, Shinji's life would be totally different.
Takeuchi: He's basically like a really annoying Sherlock Holmes. Sadly, he never got any encouragement, support or praise from the people around him and instead was constantly reminded of his failures in the form of Sakura. Growing up under such circumstances, it's little surprise that his soul got as twisted as it did.

Seems that whatever enviornment that Shinji is put in, as long as he receives love and support, he can find a way to succeed. HOLY SHIT, SHINJI IS ACTUALLY KINDA OP

he's gonna stab you when he starts really caring about you user

i kinda feel bad for Shinji, being a Matou is suffering

This is funnier now that Sherlock is in FGO.

What's even better is that he also has blue hair. Seriously though, this makes me want a story in the future where Shinji actually achieves his possible potential, as well as being an ally of the protagonist.

Worth it. Look at this face and tell me it wouldn't be.

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Can we kill Zouken and change the family name back to Makiri?
Being a Matou fucking sucks.
Makiri also sounds cooler.

Could you delete Shiki's death line cuts?

Imagine what he could have achieved if he was raised by the younger and kinder Zouken. Shinji's story is actually quite tragic if you think about it. If Nasu ever does do a Fate/Stay Night remake he really does need to put a Shinji route in there.

Shinji Route and Illya route, god damn it.

i want a fucking Caster and Rider route too, but FGO makes too much money for Nasu to actually have to work

>Caster route never
FUCK.

>He's basically like a really annoying Sherlock Holmes
I suddenly have a burning desire to know what Sherlock Holmes' childhood was like. What kind of upbringing produced that freak?

he's autistic and a genius

I'm Not that for into fgo, is he any good (please don't spoil me)
typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Beast_VII

>Illya route
This is the most important thing. Give us the true Heaven's Feel, Nasu!

Beast VII is kind of an unknown. Lore is pretty sparse. Not sure what you mean by "is he any good".

you just summoned a fucking apocalypse user what the fuck

What's the largest possible harem you can amass without being killed for it?
Who would you go for?

honestly rin and sakura would please any man
throw in rider and you're set for life

Sure, but that's nature. We all know that. I'm talking about nurture. What was his upbringing like?

i'm pretty sure you can get up to 5, Sakura, Rider, Caster, Rin and Illya

typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Sun_Wukong
If he's as broken as in the myth, I can wreck this war. He's gonna have to be massively nerfed servant container.

yeah Rin and Sakura are enough but i wanna be greedy and try to get as many waifus as possible without dying

>Sakura
Easy, just be nice to her
>Rider
Comes free with Sakura
>Caster
Take up jogging around Ryuudo temple, save her.
>Rin
Befriend her in school, go from there.
>Illya
How?

>Literally kills his offsprings spouses for being useless and for kicks
>Set up his son to die in the upcoming grail war for fun
>Forced a small child he adopted to be raped by worms
>Give his biological grandson false hopes he’s special, then fuck him over for fun
>Literally everything he does in Heaven’s Feel

Save Kerry and he'll save Illya, or you can do it yourself before the HGW

Don't forget, user.
>His hobby is playing the stock market.
Honestly it's the most damning thing of all. Who invests for fun? What the fuck?

Oh no, Zouken has figured out how to use Shinji's computer.
YOU CAN'T FOOL ME YOU WORM FUCK.

Who was worse, Roa or Zouken? Immortality is bad.

>befriend rin in school
You guys think this is way more easy than it really is

We could pull some mad get rich quick schemes assuming that the mundane Nasuverse develops somewhat similarly to the real world.

Just do the high jumps, you nerd.

tell Kirei killed her dad and Zouken tortures Sakura and kill them both for her

I do hope you've got a plan.

>typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/BB
We will summon The Winged Dragon of Ra and end our tun
also I get to fuck a hotter version of my step-sister

How can a RM affect the outside world? I thought it was a projected world, or do you mean to say that you can take the abstract concept of erasing things to the outside world and apply it at will. That just sounds to broken to make anything a challange.

Can he teach me magic?

also, in this instance Shinji is good lucking, comes from an established family and is talented enough with magic that he has a RM, its not easy but not that hard

bombs, Caster and/or All Fiction

thats why you become a detached sociopath if you overuse

>bombs
In the food right?

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Reality Marble's are your inner world projected onto the real world, by they often fuck with your magecraft too.
Shirou can trace fucking noble phantasms because of UBW.
This Reality Marble would be incredibly broken because of it being considered more "real" than reality.
It's arguably at the level of True Magic
The sole problem is that you can't use it carelessly lest it warps you into considering everything worthless and fictional and going full omnicidal and trying to delete the universe.

If given the chance would you participate in the hgw?

The brief literally forces you to.

Oh boy, Shinji isekai with a kickass reality marble! This is going to be easy street. Let's see what Servant I get...
>typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Beast_(Fate/Prototype)
Oh. Oh dear. I really hope this reality marble can help me control Beast 666.

>Go for Harem Ending
>Yandere Sakura
>Dark Sakura
>She rapes us to death. All Fiction brings us back and she rapes us to death again for eternity.
Are you happy guys?

No i mean if you weren't isekai'd
irl

Kind of, yeah.
She can't keep raping us to death forever.

IRL, nobody on this board is a magus. You'd immediately get fucked up by mana strain after summoning your Servant, unless it was Caster.
That said, yes. I would. Probably death is worth a shot at the Grail.

*Probable death. Or "probably dying". I hate when I mix two options for a sentence.

Sakura won't go Dark if we remove the worms and connection to Manjew.

Once you start being nice to Sakura, Rin will probably lighten up.

>Use All Fiction to undo Arc's hair being cut by Altrouge and give her her long hair back
This is a good use of my abilities

d-does that accomplish anything?

Speaking of original Beast, do we have any illustrations of it from the Prototype novels?

Arc gets her long hair back
She might appreciate the gesture.

Here's a pretty good fanfic featuring Shinji as the main character. Apparently its quite good. Shinji even has his own chant that starts like this: "I am the worm of my pit"

I read that CYOA too.

Wait when the fuck did they make Shinji a Rin-level mangus? Like, wtf? How does anyone take this shit seriously.

if his magic circuits weren't fucked he would've apparently been as good as Rin, might help that he's a genius with a lot of drive to be great

As mentioned in previous posts on this thread; Shinji is quite talented and can succeed in most circumstances as long as he is given a good upbringing. Ironically, he's actually OP in a way.

Any good fan fiction with same premise?

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this is why its easy to succeed if you're isekai'd as him, Shinji is pretty OP

Basically, she's forced to have short hair because her sister cut her long hair and she can't regrow it because some bullshit occured. Arc has very very long hair normally.
Of course, only do it if she brings up her hair.

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gonna be honest with you user, we just kinda made a lot of this up, don't think there's a premise as cool as this one, unless someone uses these ideas and makes it happen

There's no isekai mind element, but Rejuvenation of a Bloodline is very similar and pretty good.

Goddamn. Restoring Arc's hair is now my top priority. Nisio must be removed from all timelines!

An user said they were considering running a quest on /qst/ with the same premise.

I still am considering it.

You can't summon BB.

do it user, i wanna fuck shit up with All Fiction and figure out how to seduce everyone

Does anyone in the thread hang out on /qst/ already? What are your thoughts on the Shinji Isekai Quest idea?

i've never been on /qst/ but Shinji Isekai Quest would drag me to go there, its too good to pass up

>I am the worm of my pit"
Are you fucking serious user?

I hang out on /qst/.
I think it sounds great.

I'm more of a /tg/ guy but the concept's interesting enough for me to open a new tab

God damn that's so ridiculous.

with all fiction you can pull up ridiculous shit
you can win with one move and make any move you want and in the still win

Well first things first, let's chat with Zouken.
>Hey, grandpaps. Got some hot facts for you. You crave immortality so you can save Justeaze von Einzbern and save the whole human race, but you've forgotten due to your withered soul. Also, you're a host for Barbatos the demon god pillar. What? How do I know these things? I touched the root, don't ask, you'll go crazy. Let's just move on with the things I know now. Now I can get us out of this quandary too, but I'm gonna need your help. First off: we need a catalyst for the king of magecraft, Solomon. Also we can stop working on Sakura, the fifth war is gonna be the be-all-end-all. Once more, Solomon. With his help saving the world will be easy.
Then either I'm already dead from Zouken refusing help but I hope he flashbacks and remembers his dream and stuff and agrees to help out. It's smooth sailing from there provided a catalyst for Solomon can be acquired. If I'm in a world with Marisbilly I'd have to inquire about his ring.

BB can summon herself if you have enough SENPAI POWER to attract her to your location though.

You might recognize me, then, and see why I'm trepidatious about running this.
It would definitely have some limiting factors. Working out the implications and manifestations of All Fiction (in the same way that UBW manifests as Shirou's projection and sword-understanding) will be a very interesting bit of worldbuilding to do.

didn't Marisbilly win the 5th HGW of his timeline?

I imagine it would have suitable limitations.
The real fucky shit couldn't occur outside of summoning the marble, otherwise you're likely gonna be restricted to deleting observable things.
It should auto-heal you and bring you back from death even when not manifested though.

How would you feel about a Dark Shinji

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oh shit, so are we getting it then user?

The timeline he participated in, sure. Does he exist in other ones? I don't know. Only Nasu does. Metaknowledge doesn't work for that part, so I'd have to do the legwork myself.

Seems like your mixing things from FGO, which is a radically different timeline from FSN.
Lovely. I want the full picture.

Hello Sweets.
Sweets is in the middle of running another Fate Quest right now, which is also very good.

>Seems like your mixing things from FGO, which is a radically different timeline from FSN.
Same setting, bro. The demon god pillars exist in all the timelines, Solomon's going to be the same in Stay Night's world, everything up to 2004 is pretty much identical.

Wonder if Shinji will end up looking like Zouken when he's older. Now that I think about it, are the Matous still mostly Russian or are they predominantly Japanese at this point.

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Zouken is 500, the Matous are Japanese at this point

Nope.
Not at all.
Marisbury wins the first grail war of his timeline, which occurs 200 years late for no reason, and Solomon only sends his ring forward in time to be summoned in FGO timelines.

That being said, I do like this picture.

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who the fuck came up with the All Fiction RM? Thats such a good power in this context that i'm genuinely amazed

>and Solomon only sends his ring forward in time to be summoned in FGO timelines.
Is that actually stated anywhere or just an assumption?

They only came to Japan around the late half of the 1800's. So it might be possible that they are fully japanese by this point. That or their mostly still Russian because they import spouses from europe for their heirs.

Zouken only came to Japan in the 19th century, though, and it's canon that they bring in wives from magus families somewhere on the continent. Given the fact that Shinji's mother was specifically chosen in the hope that her lineage would restore the family's circuits, and they were blaming the degradation on having left Russia, I would imagine Shinji's at least half Russian.

A few threads ago, some user pointed out that reality marbles are born of having an alien mindset (such as the firm conviction that you are a sword) and that a person who "knew" the world was fictional would probably develop one that functioned similarly to All Fiction.

kinda weird that his foreign looks aren't mentioned then, swear to good if anyone is the least bit foreign in anime, it's mentioned

He's not summoned in any of the FSN wars, otherwise he would've won, so it's an easy assumption to make.

Marisbilly might not have bothered in F/SN's timeline since a lord of the clock tower went to Fuyuki in 1994 and died in ignominy, causing him to perceive it as a fraud in 2004.

I suppose. I got the impression that it was at least visually implied, though. He has fluffy hair and blue eyes, both of which are non-Japanese traits, and lives in the "foreign district". IIRC Tohsaka also mentions in the prologue that her family has a lot of foreign blood, and also has blue eyes.

>all these posts about All Fiction
I thought we were discussing FSN, not Medaka Box?

you can also solve this problem by keeping contact with Waver, just ask if a Marisbilly and that might be enough for you to autowin the HGW

Shirou is fully Japanese (presumably) and has Red Hair and Golden-Brown eyes.
Somehow.

Anons are discussing getting an ability similar to All Fiction and are borrowing the name.

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My headcanon is that there was a low-level scottish magus family living in Fuyuki that died in the fire, and their son was rescued by Kiritsugu.

I see. Makes sense to attach a name to it that is pretty close in concept.

Also Kumagawa is the best Medaka Box.

Nah, there's also the fact that the grail is corrupted in the SN timelines.
There's hundreds if not thousands of years of time divergence.

I still think we should call it Perfect False Creation.

Eternal truth actually

maybe if Sweets takes this to /qst/ or someone makes a fanfic out of it they can name it something better and give it its own little chant

We could have "All Fiction" be the self hypnosis chant a la "Trace On" and call the marble itself something fancier.

>EMIYA thinks you are the cause of the situation in fuyuki
>tries to kill you with ubw
>you delete it with your own reality marble

>Marisbilly
I am not. Apparently his servant is also a female Gilgamesh and he and Shirou are super-BROS as well.

I have a chant for it, yes.

whoa, mind telling us what it is?

>brainless CYOA fags wanking the bullshit mary sue fanfiction power instead of actually trying to consider the experiment from an in-setting perspective
How uninspired. May as well delete the thought experiment if you're just gonna hand over god powers.

Be nice to sakura and your captain (Run best friend)

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The look on his face would be priceless.
TM protagonists getting broken bullshit powers is nothing new.
Isekai Protagonists getting broken bullshit powers is nothing new either.
The thought experiment itself becomes "Use my metaknowledge to win by manipulating everyone"

It's all about context and interpretation. If you write UBW as "can create any weapon," it sounds ridiculously broken. The story is what makes it work.
All Fiction/Perfect False Creation/Unnamed Erasure Marble is the same way. It's only a god power if you assume it has no drawbacks or limitations.

>TM protagonists getting broken bullshit powers is nothing new.
They have to work for it and apply it appropriately, at least.
>Isekai Protagonists getting broken bullshit powers is nothing new either.
Lazy writing is not a great inspiration to take from.
>The thought experiment itself becomes "Use my metaknowledge to win by manipulating everyone"
Yeah, that's a lot more interesting. Can we go back to that? Maybe actually describe who gets manipulated and how?

fuck off gil

>they have to work for it
*laughs in Shiki*

We've already gone over that in depth. The Reality Marble idea itself came out of the fact that people had already "solved" all of the characters and wanted something new to talk about.

Then why are you having a general on Yea Forums, go to /tg/'s Fate CYOA or /qst/ already if you've """solved""" this stuff and don't want to talk about it more

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Nah, I'll sit on it until I run the quest. More fun if you discover it in the story, right?

I wish I had a cute non blood related sister to fuck and feed me.

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>They have to work for it and apply it appropriately, at least.
Right, and it's not like anybody has to work at developing a reality marble. No, sir. It'd just float in on the breeze.
>Can we go back to that?
How about if instead of going back, we talk about something we haven't discussed as much? I'd like to see some more strategies of what people would do as Shinji summoning a different Servant, focusing on that rather than stealing Caster or making some big all-characters team-up. There's that random link in the OP for a reason.

I despise exclusive "general" culture who assumes everyone's already been here from the start.

Shinji gets to live in the manga.

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Great. Fascinating. What's your response to the OP, user?

You can just look in the archive for the last two threads.
ctrl+f isekai.
They were only like two days ago

Did they marry in the UBW timeline?

Thanks, found another one under the name of Crawl like a Worm
Time to visit /QST/ board
Hope so

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First an all-or-nothing trying to get Zouken back to general sanity with a confrontation about his past and intentions, which either results in instant death or a powerful if vaguely demented ally. Then a deliberation on what would be a most ideal hero for solving the grail war after detailing the servants and masters involved, I imagine. Probably excluding Solomon as a cheat card.

Zouken is way too far gone for that to work.
Solomon wouldn't be possible to summon without his ring which may not even exist in this timeline and do you really want the faggot to be able to leave the Grand Caster container open again?
Even more that Solomon plan wouldn't work considering the world is a Tsukihime/Fate composite.

how would it not work because of that?

>Zouken is way too far gone for that to work.
He was able to realize himself in his dying moments in HF, which is why it's an option at all.
Just gotta use them shounen powers of faith in natural goodness, or something.
>Even more that Solomon plan wouldn't work considering the world is a Tsukihime/Fate composite.
Composite worlds are most ideal for getting the top tiers to actually help out and not sit on their ineffable thrones though, because anything can happen.

FGO events couldn't occur in Tsukihime worlds.
Human Order shit (makes no sense but whatever)
It's the grave FGO dug for itself.

whos a really powerful servant that would listen to us? King Hassan is a great choice but his summon would be random, Archer Hercules would dominate until Gil uses Enkidu, Enkidu seems like a great choice but that'll draw Gil out early

He was able to realise himself in his dying moments, yes.
There's a big difference between dying moments and your grandson suddenly going "AY GRAMPS I LOOKED AT THE ROOT WHY ARE YOU SUCH AN ASSHOLE NOW?"
The guy is so far gone he literally throws infants into worm rape pits.

Siegfried/Sumanai.

enkidu is the bsolute best
karna with sakura's mana could deal with anyone but gil

He's also not the type to instantly lash out at something he doesn't understand, though. Talking with him could still work out simply because he does act with logic. Depraved, self-serving logic, but not nonsensical or truly insane behaviors.

Attempt to summon Merlin, the asshole may or may not pretend to be your servant if he feels like it.
Caster Gil is possible, too, he'd probably disagree with Archer Gil rather aggressively.

We gotta make sure we don't get creamed by Berserker because Illya throws a tantrum. God Hand is a bitch. I mean, you could just try to get Gilgamesh to kill Heracles for you, but Illya will be next to die.

They probably did after getting along and both their waifu and husbando cucking both of them

Saber with a full power Excaliblast could OHKO him and melt all of his lives at once.
EMIYA on a good day could accomplish it.
Cu even has a chance to kill him by using his runes to rank up Gae Bolg.
Medea can kill him multiple times with her HSDWs
Bellerophon would likely melt multiple lives.

Deletion would insta-kill Berserker if you managed to pull it off on him.

The fifth war is a stupidly bullshit war, as far as grail wars go.

I just want to help Sakura.
Fuck the war, it's bullshit.

>I just want to help the girl who had her sister raped by worms for fun
k incel

I was unaware Rin was dealing with a crest worm infestation.

>he hasn't played heaven's feel

user... Are you ok?
I think you should drink some water or something.

>t. speedreader

Nope, she beated his cock like every route

i appreciate that they first thing most of us want to do is figure out a way to save Sakura or make her life better

Femme Fatale ending

Are you unaware a bad ending exists where sakura literally throws rin to the worm pit and mocks her for crying?

So, what's your favourite idea for a limitation/drawback on the All Fiction marble?

I like the idea that overuse leads to just becoming an absolutely broken human being who can't even bring himself to interact with the world, as it's All Fiction anyway, possibly even leading to a permanent automatic activation and becoming a walking disaster.

Though the deletion of some of your emotions towards the world and it's inhabitants every time you used it would also be interesting.

I mean, you can't really hold Sakura accountable for Dark Sakura's actions considering the whole Angra Mainyu thing.
This is the same Rin who is willing to kill Sakura, too.

This is why I called you a speedreader.
Over the course of Heaven's Feel, Sakura's personality is beaten down, shaved away, and transformed into a warped mockery of itself by the combination of Angra Mainyu's influence and the horrific trauma she experiences. By the time of that ending, Sakura has undergone a fundamental personal change.
If you help Sakura over the ten years before F/SN, "the girl who had her sister raped by worms" will never exist, because the circumstances that created her will have been totally altered.
This character arc is one of the most prominent elements of Heaven's Feel. The only way you wouldn't see it is if you're a speedreader who scanned the VN without actually thinking at all.

>d-doesn't count
k fag

the more you see the world as fiction the less you are able to interact with the world
eventually you erase it completely or reach a sort of limbo place from which you can't come bacl

i like the idea of making it meta. The Nasuverse isn't real, you've been transported into a fictional world, All Fiction is the complete denial of your new reality. If everything is fake to you, then why would you love and care for people like Shirou or Sakura? The whole world is just one big book, and if you don't like how the story becoming, you erase it.

>Character development doesn't exist, nobody's ever done a heel-turn!
Moron.

I think the limit is that people can’t be erased as that would be too busted if people were

>permanent automatic activation
>unknown walking figure surronded by invisible sphere that totally deletes absolutely anything that gets in it's way or attempts to stop it from existence. Completely ignoring any sort of defence or immortality.

The Church and the Mage Association wouldn't have a fun time trying to deal with this.
Hell, even the Dead Apostle Ancestors would make a note to avoid that bullshit.

I'm pretty sure you can't do that and believe strong enough in your own fiction to manifest it as a reality marble.

I rerolled my servant since I got Chen Gong and ended up with someone REALLY interesting... typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Assassin_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_EMIYA)

Ok, so
>be nice to sakura and rin
>offer to help spy on shirou for zouken
>use opportunity to reach out to rin, try and get some help and secondhand training on the dl
>reach out to waver
>assassinate kirei to get bazette on our side

Hard Mode Goals.
>find a way to cure Kiritsugu and have him rescue Illya.
Honestly I feel like this one's a lost cause, unless you might be able to somehow reach Iris in the grail underneath Ryuudou.
>seduce Rin
Be nice to Sakura and help kill Kirei. Rin will already have a better opinion of you to begin with by not being a grating asshole.
>deworm Sakura
MIGHT be possible with my servant using his origin. Although it would strip her of magecraft period I think. It may even kill zouken.
>seduce Arcuied
Nope
>win the war without teaming up with every single servant
I think sticking with archer, saber and lancer would be good enough.
>seduce everyone
Nope

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First of all, I'd be a real brother to Sakura, and when I eventually meet him, a real friend to Shirou. Also push them together a bit, because they make each other happy.

Upon meeting Rin, tell her everything. Jubstacheit will listen if the head of the Tohsaka family wants to talk, especially if a Matou is involved too. Tell him everything, so that he gives up on using the Grail to regain the Third Magic, and understands why Kiritsugu did what he did. Ilya gets to see her dad again, and Kiritsugu can probably get a new homunculus body.

Work with the other two families to take down Zouken, so that I can become the head of the Matou household, and the three families can end the Holy Grail Wars before the 5th can even happen.

Eventually get Shirou involved, so that he can figure out Unlimited Blade Works, so that we can take down Gilgamesh. Sakura has already won the Shiroubowl, so I'm the only single guy that Rin interacts with much. That maybe goes somewhere.

When I eventually somehow get a servant, because that happens automatically, I am the only one with a servant, because the Wars have been dismantled. I am therefore the winner by default, even though there is no prize.

Deworming Sakura is trivial at this point, and I don't give a shit about your harem trash, so I make no efforts to seduce anyone but Rin.

The only way to accomplish using the Marble and not going full "nothing matters, nothing exists" would likely be some sort of way to seal your emotions away before using it so they don't get deleted.
Then you'd have to unseal them.
Though you actually wouldn't care enough to unseal them yourself.

Why the fuck do you think you'd have any kind of authority necessary to get people to believe you about the grail?
Do you think Jubstacheit would still listen to the head of the Tohsaka when said head is a teenage girl?
This plan is taking the fast lane to the Tiger Dojo.

You give him the means and Shinji would have a pretty typical mindset for a successful magus.

This relies on the people that would participate in grail wars not being massive autists and people taking the word of teenagers

I fucking hate aoi so fucking much

>thinking Shirou can take down Gil solo with UBW without ever meeting EMIYA and copying a fuckload of his weapons and experience.
hahahahaha
No way, he's fucked
He also dies in that fight without EMIYA's interference.
Like
Twice.
He also dies if the grail doesn't decide that very moment to eat Gil.
It's not actually as clear cut as you make it out to be.

I know things about them that I shouldn't. And yes, I think he'll listen if representatives of the two other families, one of whom is the head, want to discuss the War. He'll know we're already talking regardless, so he'd be an idiot to ignore a request for him to join the discussion.

We all do.

You don't actually know anything about his character, do you?

He has a few years of experience, with Kiritsugu's crest, knowledge from Ilya, and backup from Rin and Sakura.

It doesn't have to be easy, just possible.

>Ilya gets to see her dad again, and Kiritsugu can probably get a new homunculus body.
So you'd be trying to convince the centuries-old homunculus to give up on his family's thousand-year ambition based on the word of a pair of children. If you're trying to do this while Kiritsugu is still alive, you'd still be prepubescent.
Is this a joke?

>Kiritsugu's crest
where the fuck is this coming from?
The crest is both ruined and would be nightmarishly difficult to put on Shirou anyway.
The other three don't do anything worthwhile for Shirou for this fight.
The only way to kill Gil without summoning any servants would be to somehow get Sakura to go full Dark Sakura. But she kind of still needs to absorb Servants for that.

There was a short manga spinoff where some guy got isekaied and reincarnated as Yamcha during the Pilaf saga in dragonball.

I know he's desperate to win, and willing to make an alliance with the mage-killer. It follows that he's willing to consider an alliance with the other two families if they're already going to ally without him, and all I need is to get him into a conversation.

>Summon Bradamante
>Since Cu's already been summoned, it would be as a rider.
>She'd have her Hippogriff back from Astolfo, as well as ToA because of the class's gimmicks being the grab bag of NPs.
>Ring NP of actual invisibilty to be able to gimp Kirei easy. Hell, she'd likely even take a great issue with a man of the church being such a villain.
Would ToA even work on Herc? Not to shed lives, but to immobilize him to any extent.
You'd need hella help to take out Gil, all the same.

Can't I be isekai'd as Sakura Matou instead?

You keep talking about the other two families, like Shinji and Tohsaka are adult magi. You're talking about ten-year-old children. Nobody takes children seriously! How would you even set up this meeting?

You think the centuries-old homunculus who sends children into the Holy Grail War gives a shit about age?

>ea gg

Illya was like 18.
Speedyready.

The rest of the homonculi don't count for obvious reasons. He sent Kerry for the fourth war regardless.

By that logic people should take military tactics from child soldiers

a. All of the Einzbern Masters have had the knowledge of adults. Illya is 18 and Iri is pre-programmed.
b. He views the lesser grails as disposable tools, not people to be negotiated with or taken seriously. He sends them out to die at his will, without thinking anything of it. This is a person completely wrapped up in his own view of things; he didn't even want to take Kiritsugu's advice on strategy, and he hired Kiritsugu for the express person that he was a more competent combatant than the Einzberns had. The Emiya betrayal only solidified that conviction of not listening to any outside influences. Nobody's convincing Jubstacheit of anything, least of all a pair of kids.

Your only hopes of convincing him of anything would be to have either Zouken (lmao) or Zelretch (pfft good luck) tell him that the grail is absolutely fucked.
Neither of those options are what you could call feasible.

Zelretch is probably watching this while eating popcorn. He'll give us a grade on how well we did.

>saber
yeah
>emiya
He'd run out of mana long before he manages to take all of his lives. BK's are very expensive and UBW would be a minor annoyance to herc.
>Cu has a good chance-
He has a SLIM chance of beating him with runes. Cu is just one of those servants that get a sizable nerf in any class container.
>Medea
Her attacks are all magic blasts and don't seem to have enough power to take more than one life. After dying once or twice he'd have gotten enough resistance for him to fodderize her.
>Bellerophon
A few lives i guess.

Summoned All Fiction RM vs Gil
What happens?

Lmao what
EMIYA can 100% defeat herc
cu can at most take one of his life

Honestly, If Emiya was able to bring himself to target Illya, he might've won.

Tell me how, even with Rin as a master he can't constantly spam high ranking Broken Phantasms.
Yeah, but the EMIYA of the 5th grail war would never do that.

Gil won't use Ea so he gets deleted

wasn't EMIYA still injured after nearly getting his head lobbed off by Saber?

I agree; Makiri sounds way more badass.

He says his wound has healed when he talks to Shirou about Archery outside.

How easy would it be to befriend Shiki?

Obviously I'm not saying we should, but would deleting Ciel bypass her immortality?
How much can we flex on Roa?

What's EMIYA's reaction to Good Shinji going to be like?

kinda worried that Counter Force is gonna fuck us over

It shouldn't unless we become a danger to all humanity

I'm actually kinda mad that there was never any interaction between EMIYA and Shinj in Hollow Ataraxia. By that point everyone knew who archer really was and I just think it would be both hilarious and awkward to see them interact.

>deleting Ciel
No clue, probably. Really shouldn't though. Could have her Kill Kirei for us.
>flex on Roa
You're god damn right.

I think Goetia was just masquerading as a Grand Caster saint graph using Solomon's actual body. Solomon never left the Grand Caster container "open", except for when he died and it went to Merlin.

When HA was written, there was a very autistic dedication to keeping Archer’s identity still a secret

why what the fuck, everyone knew what was the point?

I'd rather be isekai'd as a foreign exchange student into Shirou's class a couple of weeks prior, with the only things I have going for me are some low-tier circuits, being an 8th master and retaining what I know currently about the world.

>physically mediocre
>terrible memory but clever
>getting a wish from the grail is fruitless
>have no likes or dislikes as far as characters go
>would only care about stopping the war from shitting itself because if things go south I get affected
>servant is strong enough to be able to fight the others without issue
>fits my personality well and doesn't seem to care about this second-chance at life
>attempt to parlay with Caster and work together to find any possible way to purify the grail
>don't have any wishes I care and would leave it up to her

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That would be broken as fuck if you could get Rin on your side.
>short fucking everything the day before the GFC
>mine thousands of buttcoins
>tech stock sniping
>etc.
>pour most of those gorillions of shekels into buying a diamond mine
>y helo thar jewelcraft
>get in as major SpaceX investor
>become Second Owner Of The Fucking Moon
...shit, now I almost want to combine this with "Caster ganks everybody's Servants via Rule Breaker" and make an F/GO tier mess of things.

So you just want to be yourself and try to live out your wish fulfillment shit

>you are isekai'd as Shinji Matou the day the fourth grail war ends
ok
>you can perfectly recall any line in both FSN and FHA, as well as keeping any meta-knowledge you have from other sources
nice
>you get 25 unactivated high quality magic circuits, as a bonus. But will need somebody to activate them for you to use them. Zouken will notice if you have them activated.
ok
>you must participate in the fifth war.
ok
>typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Berserker_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Raikou)
ok berserkaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>your servant is an additional servant to the 7 canonically summoned, for reasons.
... ok
>by maintaining the belief that the world is fictional, it is possible for you to develop a Reality Marble/Ability that allows for the erasure of anything.
ok
>Tsukihime occurs in this timeline a few years before Fate
ok
>you're currently in a Matou property in London, away from the war.
ok
What do you do, Yea Forums?

Hard Mode Goals.
>find a way to cure Kiritsugu and have him rescue Illya.
no ty
>seduce Rin
my servant has bigger tits
>deworm Sakura
used goods too much of a hassle
>seduce Arcuied
no ty
>win the war without teaming up with every single servant
ok
>seduce everyone
ok

Unironically what the FUCK do you expect me to write user? How the FUCK do you want me to indulge your DUMB INCEL DAYDREAMING FANTASIES, stop asking other DUMB FUCKING RETARDS on a DUMB FUCKING ANIME FORUM to write your self insert for you. YOU FUCKING KEKLORD.
ok?

Calm down man jeez

Alright well I've only seen stay night so I'll pretend that everything stays the same besides me.

>Got Darius III as berserker
This replaces Hercules which is fucking great since I would be incapable of stopping him
I don't know how good 25 magic circuits are but Darius has some good stats and decent abilities, what's more he seems to scale off my wealth "Golden rule" and gives me fortune to aquire it.
>My next three problems are saber, Archer and Gilgamesh
I can safely ignore Medea until she steps off her base, in which case Darius should crush her.
>I need to keep shirou alive since he hard counters Gilgamesh, this means no action against saber
>I'll use Darius to take down zouken and free Sakura
Sakura has way more magic ability than I, so I'll broker a deal with her and rider to serve as a mana battery. We can pool resources into whatever servant is better suited for the task.
>The boosted wealth and Mana should out Darius on a higher tier than normal

At this point I've taken care of caster and assassin. I know that shirou will beat Gilgamesh and Archer. Leaving saber and lancer to cause problems. I know lancer would give artoria a run for her money and she lacks the Mana to Np more than once in rapid succession. I can use lancer or rider as a sacrifice to draw it out (lancer would be better) then attack with Athanaton Ten Thousand.
>With saber gone the last real obstacle is emiya
>However emiya lacks an anti army NP
I'm not sure if two reality marbles can intersect so idk if he could UBW or not
>Regardless Archer will be running out of Mana and I'll be feeding Darius from two sources while possibly having Medusa in reserve

At the end of it, I'll give Darius his wish to fight iskandar again and use mine to instate both me and Sakura as head of the matou family while removing her worms. So at the end of it I save an innocent girl, become head of a top 3 family and can live the remainder of my life in posh comfort

>Ask Sakura out
>Get rejected
>Don't rape wormslut
>Spend the entire grail war sitting in my room listening to 808's & Heartbreak on repeat and shitposting on pre-2010 Yea Forums
Likely what would happen

I mean *Ask Rin

>ask your sister out

Based and truthpilled. I doubt I'd even have the balls to ask her out, would probably just rot in my room like irl.

Juba isn’t a person either. He’s a Castle AI whose goal is to make homunculi and do the grail thingy. The Einzberns are a “family” of robots who don’t understand the idea that people would want to use a wish granting device for their own wishes instead of using it for the purpose of saving the world. They have no purpose beyond fulfilling the goal they inherited and Juba shuts down/kills himself as well as an AI can if Illya fails to win because it’s impossible for them to make anything as good as Illya or Justeaze again. It’s impossible to convince them to do things differently.

I think it was Sakura who threw Rin and Shirou into the wormpit in femme fatale. The way Rin shit on everything she went through made her act impulsively, and Rin had done nothing but shit on Sakura throughout the route, so it's no surprise she finally gave in to her darker desires when she was fused with angra, who brought forth her repressed negative desires. She even cries later.

It is the bad end where she goes too far, but knowing all she went through, you couldn't even call her evil for doing so.

I don't really hate rin overall but in heaven's feels specifically after she trashtalks sakura over and over saying she wasn't strong enough and shit, watching that ending put a grin on my face. Can't say she didn't have it coming.
Illya also fucks up and kills shirou in multiple endings in even worse ways and I don't mind because I see where she comes from, even though she is a sadistic fuck about it.

Played through fate route of SN. It was, well, okay, but nothing groundbreaking.
Found out that somewhere in the series there are fags, trannies and lesbos that I hate.
Should I continue with this shit or will I ultimately regret it?

IIRC the most gayness that happens in the franchise is in the Fate route. If you've already been through that, you've got nothing to worry about.

By believing everything is fake ( faction ) it will make you lose attachment to fate character.
On the other hand, that didn't stop us from have attachment to waifu...

yeah i feel like the development of the all fiction reality marble would make us into a psychopath or something

>FGO events couldn't occur in Tsukihime worlds.
>Human Order shit (makes no sense but whatever)
>It's the grave FGO dug for itself.
But F/GO is a universe where the human foundation's dominance is tenuous at best, which is exactly why F/GO's events can happen at all. The human foundation is strong, but the ??? is strong too, resulting in a universe that hangs in the balance.
Which is, of course, why there is any risk at all. If the human foundation were solid, then the counter force prevents any of the beasts from gaining any meaningful momentum at all. Because the human foundation is strong, beasts can be strong too. But because it's not assured to be dominant, humanity can still get fucking blown away if they're not lucky.
Remember, Fate/Strange Fake with its DAAs is described as a "FGO-like" world. F/GO IS a merged world, not a core, solidly Fate universe where Lev just kills himself and everything's fine.

byump

this is a cool thread i really like it

Yeah, you'd turn into an absolute monster from overuse.
Really you would need somebody to help you snap back to reality after it's use.

Step 1: Rape Sakura
Step 1.5: Rape Rider
Step 2: Meet Shirou at his house and slit his throat
Step 3: Tell Rin in a note that the Grail is tainted and shit is fuck if she doesn't tell the MA and the Priest is corrupt
Step 4-5: Rape Rider
Step 5.5: Nut so fucking hard in Sakura
Step 6: Quit being a Master and leave town.

Thread like this is always fun because you're in the place of the side character, a pathetically one at that.
It gave better chance for fun potential rather than being the chosen one who got admired by all that for some reason is the only thing in the world that is a "hard counter" against king of heroes.

So would developing a split personality allow you to deal with using All Fiction?
Full Void Shiki style, I guess.

It could start with small effect
Like not understanding why Sakura mad or sad, While looking at injured teammates.

From your point of views, Archery's club Teammates are just fiction ( fake ) character. So, you won't even dream it might be the reason for her anger or sadness.

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Oh I do like this.
I wonder how long it would take Sakura or Rin to notice this particular distortion.
As far as things go, it's a very dangerous mindset to have.

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In a way you'd kind of be the opposite of Shirou, who got his marble as a result of wanting to save the faceless masses +swordtism

You'd by default think those you aren't aware of wouldn't be worth interacting with, nevermind saving.

In a way, I supposed we'd be more incompatible with Shirou than actual Shinji, huh?

>dude what if Fate was an isekai and you have CHIM as your power lmao
God damn the moment I think Fate can't get any trashier, you underage morons do this

Ok, why are you here then?
It makes complete sense by the laws of the setting and the ability is nowhere near CHIM bullshit levels.

Like have two sides of the same coin.
Both of them taking one side to extreme and need Sakura and Rin to make them straight (understanding what middle ground mean)

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>Sakura and Rin now need to keep two turbo autists with incredible destructive potential under control.
Poor girls.
Shirou we would be able to befriend anyway, because he would befriend anyone.
Deletion Shinji and Shirou with UBW teaming up in a fight would be great though.
I just realised that the Deletion Marble if summoned could likely overwrite other marbles and not be overwritten itself.

> Shinji & Shirou run past people searching for something in the river and one almost drowned.
>shinji ignored them while Shirou jump to help them searching and ask Shinji for help
>Shinji answer that he don't have time to play in water with Shirou, need to buy Sakura flu medicine!

Shirou decided to help random people in things they can do by themselves and ignore Sakira immediate need while Shinji didn't even register the almost drowned man in his mind. It was just white noise

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I wonder what Shinji's reaction to a display of horrible violence would be (like some Tsukihime tier alleyway coated in blood stuff)
"Wow, that's pretty messed up"?
Definitely autistic enough to be a TM protagonist.

>tsukihime occurs
>crimson moon & TAs existing in a timeline with the counter force & servants

secondaryfag thread gtfo

Probably like watching movie or anime.
Might feel bad or scared but just for moment and it won't have PSTD effect on him later and won't understand why other can't get over it.
Hell, he might make some dark joke like some made while watching B rate horror movie.

Or don't give a damn at all since nothing is real from his POV, But will care if it happen to main or support cast like how many people here ready to fight for their fiction waifu

>It makes complete sense by the laws of the setting
No it fucking does not. One of the rules of the setting is that you cannot invade another person's fleshspace with your world. You cannot just delete people. You can flash boil them into atomic dust, melt them into acidic goo, pulverize them into jelly, and anything else, but you cannot insert your reality past their skin. Reality stops at the physical intersection.

>deworm Sakura
looks like shit is fucked then

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But putting somebody entirely within your world is fine?

Yeah. All pulling someone into your world means is you're replacing the terrain with yourself.
You cannot invade their person any more than the earth can invade your flesh. And if the earth could invade humans, earth would be a very different place. Earth is not very fond of humans.

>I would use Shinji himself as a catalyst
Wouldnt it be funny if that actually summoned Perseus

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He could erase you from Akashic records which erase you from everyone else memory (and life)

No, you can't erase things from the akashic records without being in the akashic records. What you say is nonsense.

>What do you do, Yea Forums?
>Randomincategory/Servants
>get BB

I win.

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This is the Nasuverse, if you aren't breaking established rules with a very specific method, you aren't doing it right.

Is that fate show rules?
Because in other show, you don't need to be inside it to erase people, just established connections

There is only one unbreakable rule in the Nasuverse and thats:
>If you get a Caster you have to try to ruin the Grail War for everyone else, no exceptions

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That's Type-Moon rules in general, yes. The Akashic Records are a metaphysical concept sitting within the swirl of origin, you can't possibly touch it from outside the origin to begin with.

Not to mention you can’t be a Mage when you have a caster for the long term

Depends on what Caster you summon.
Medea would bully you for your shit magecraft if she didn't like you.
The Author Casters can't into magecraft themselves.
Paracelcus would encourage you.

Of course, a reality marble like the one being discussed would impress any Caster because holy shit.

>typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Randomincategory/Servants
LOL OF ALL SERVANTS I COULD SUMMON AS SHINJI, HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAA

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>nameless in same war as EMIYA and Shirou
I mean, technically not possible, but would be fun.

re-read the OP, you know who he is.

Yes, I know.
That's not EMIYA though
That's EMIYA after discarding the name EMIYA.
He's impossible to summon because of moon cell shit.

He's also different personality wise because he's not stuck doing counter guardian job.

oh is he now?
how did rin summoned him then? was it ever explained?

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>develop a Reality Marble/Ability that allows for the erasure of anything
This trivializes any challenge.

Read into the thread, anons started making drawbacks to it.
Using it too much would fuck your mind up.

But make everything pointless because you believe nothing is real, everything is illusion/Fake.

Is there any point in save, protecting, talking...etc
With fake characters inside your head?

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>He's also different personality wise because he's not stuck doing counter guardian job.
Yes he is. His Extra Matrix said he sold his soul and Extra Material reiterates he's a guardian and what guardians do (kill everything).
People act like he's any different but he's exactly the same just with some minor details off.

I wonder what sort of personality (user) Shinji would have.
Eternally smug unless he's talking with somebody he likes?

We do know that Shinji enjoy trolling through the internet...
So, user Shinji probably a user from 4 Chan...

The best course of action is to witness Rin's only use of Kaleido Ruby before sealing it away with our own eyes.

Basically the same except he treats his hoes nicely and doesn’t feel inferior

Wouldn't he be even a little nicer?
I mean, user would have Sakura being nice to him for years (he'd only have to be nice to her). All while being fully aware of Sakura's suffering.
He'd end up a rather complex character.
Especially after getting his marble and realizing the effect it has on him.

It's only a drawback at the beginning once you lose your emotions you'll no longer care and it'll stop being a drawback.
In any case no user would ever have a reality marble. We have bat shit crazy people from other world's/realities in the nasuverse and you dont see then having reality marbles

>typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Avenger_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Gorgon)
>giant snek titties
muh

These are my goals
>find a way to cure Kiritsugu and have him rescue Illya
>deworm Sakura
there's got to be a spell or two in my crests that can help with this
>win the war without teaming up with every single servant
Just play it safe and don't be an idiot that attracts too much enmity from an emiya
>seduce gorgon
I have no idea, probably just wing it.

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gorgon's 100% gona kill you sorry

Not if I warm her up first. With her type you have to play it slow and steady, building trust a little at a time.

>typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Avenger_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Gorgon)
Judging by her parameters/skills she seems like an even bigger mana hog than berserker hercules. Don't think 25 high quality circuits would be enough to have her fighting at full power for too long.

I'd have to avoid direct confrontation where I can help it, and only take out weakened enemies. It'd be like having a really strong assassin.

>dude just mind of steel but worse lmao
This seems like a bad idea.

As for all of the other wacky shit, none of them are aware of the world all being all a story. All lies.
All Fiction.

What you're not realizing is that if by some reason you did woke up tomorrow in OP's fanfiction. That would just prove all along that we were always part of the nasuverse due to the multiverse theory. Your "knowledge" of the events of fate/tsukihime are merely knowledge from universe where exceeding similar events happen. Kind of how Fate/Zero and FSN are in seperate universes yet we know that the 5th war in FSN was very similar to the one in Fate/Zero. And even if you choose to not believe/deny this, it won't make you/your mindset anymore strange than, for example, those who have seen the abyss-foreigners.

>yet we know that the 5th war in FSN was very similar to the one in Fate/Zero
I meant the 4th war**

Firsrt of all, I didn't expect BB typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/MoonCancer_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_BB_Pele) so i guess i just her noble phantasm to fuck with reality.

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How much sex does Shirou conceivably have in a week? By the end of Fate Hollow he has Illya, Rin, Sakura, Rider, AND Bazett living in his house, if not permanently, then at least 3 times a week. Like, shit, how does he do it?

It depends on your mindset.
The only person not getting super OP abilities is you, for cucking yourself out of them.

Oh yeah, forgot. Church slut hangs out there at the end there, too.

Does this thread prove that Yea Forums wants to be based like Shinji

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he's the bone of his sword user

Yeah man you're totally unique!! xD

i just wanna fuck Rin and Sakura user

Sorry I don't subscribe to multiverse theory and Nasu being a prophetic writer, retard.

you got me man :P, you'll totally sex rin/sakura/medusa and beat all the bad guys cuz your so bad ass @@!!

>Undo the cuts Arcuied gets from Shiki
>also undo the cut on her hair that is preventing her from growing her hair back at the same time
I'm a genius!

user wanna fug tho

Bow down to based Takumi Atsuta and become his personal footstoll

How difficult would actually getting Medea to love you be?
I mean yeah, you can save her, but she's not actually guaranteed to fall for you after that.

>there's got to be a spell or two in my crests
Where do you think you get a crest from? Sakura's the only one who inherits the Matou crest.

>BB
>Outside the mooncell
Useless.

I think she's on the easier side in that department. She's quite romantic person as it was her desire to fall in love by her own volition and not being forced to do it by gods.

And take care of her even though she have no power at that point. (Near death)

I guess she believe other only interested in her because of her power (Why Aphrodite curse her with love cursed)

well loyalty means a lot to her, she murdered her children cause Jason was a disloyal piece of shit. You already get high marks on her list if the first thing you did when you become her master is to kill Zouken and save Sakura. Plus she wouldn't mind if you had a harem, she's Greek lmao, as long as she's the head wife, everything is good

Alright, we've worked through a lot of goals, but I still need your help anons.
How am I going to fuck Caren?

Caren fucked a demon user, it won't be that hard

She poisoned her children's food because Jason abandoned her entire family and she wasn't able to support a family of four by herself and didn't want them to suffer*

The real question is how we get Luvia.

Kill Kirei
Fuck his daughter in his church
Priest BTFO.

Can't I just take it from her using some magic fuckery?

In this situation, you have the potential to be as good as Rin (according to Nasu, Shinji with magical circuits would be as good as Rin) so for that alone she would go for you so her children could be magic super babies

The crest is made out of worms. Do you want to be full of worms?

You don't want that.
Medea would also fully support adding Saber to a harem. Medea is great.

It'll probably end in her losing her hand in best case.

>the worms ARE the crest
Everything makes sense now

would Sakura actually fall in love with you or would she just be devoted to her oniichan?

It's call the worm crest for a reason. It's a literal worm that spreads smaller worms throughout your body.

She fell for Shirou pretty easily.

It’s not incest when siblings are adopted

She'd literally love you with all of her heart if you were the one to save her.
Like, she'd literally be depressed for her entire life if you died.

So how do you go about getting Arc to fall for you and not getting murdered by her for trying to make a harem?
Also, she's about the only chance you have at killing Gil without a grail war.

look user, you can get Arc or you can get a harem, you can't have both

Everyone talking about harems in this thread needs to go back and rewatch Carnival Phantasm. That shit doesn't fly.

Or consider that harems are objectively garbage

That's because they all foolishly decided to date them all on the same day.

False.
Shiki made it out on top.

We'll have to keep in touch to ask him how to deal with these problems. I'm sure he'll get up to accidentally hareming the rest of the Tsukihime cast.
>four years pass since Tsukihime
>Tohno Mansion phone rings
>"Is that Shiki? I'd like to ask your advice on something. I appear to have accidentally made my sister, her sister, a sociopathic nun, Medusa (yes like the myth), Medea of Colchis (yes like the myth as well), an enforcer, King Arthur, three homonculi, the captain of the Archery Club and Arcuied all fall in love with me, please help!"

A bit off-topic, but whenever Tsukihime comes up I have to ask:
Is there a way to run it on 64-bit windows without the game crashing every 5 minutes?

i kinda wanna read Tsukihime but the art looks like ass

Can I erase OP? Whatever, I'm doing it anyway.

We've been promised a remake for like a decade now.

I feel like we've come up with a pretty good drawback for the all fiction reality marble.
That the more you use it, the more detached you become from reality. I'm fairly certain that 98 percent of people don't consider fictional lives to have the same worth as real ones.

FGO makes too much money for Nasu to care about Tsukihime

Can arcueid reproduce?
how strong xould her offspring be?

Yeah, it's a pretty great ability because of that drawback.
I imagine you'd be able to gain "reality" back as well as lose it if you aren't too far gone.
Likely by making powerful memories to help anchor your perception of reality.

Well, Altrouge was born from a Dead Apostle and a True Ancestor.
So Arcuied might be able to have children.
They'd be strong as fuck too.

>gain "reality" back as well as lose it
That dangerous ability.
It could be like in Negi where fake people marry real people and have children.

All fake people and their children could be erase easily with magic.

What will happen here? Will fake people die with Shinji or continue to live?

couldn't you do some magic bullshit where you back up the memories and feelings you've felt through the ages and Rin or Shirou would use those to remind you why you care about the world and why its real to you?

I didn't mean it like that. It would more be stuff like making important memories and experiencing the world that would get your fiction count down.

Wouldn't you consider Rin and Shirou to be just as fake as the rest of the world?
Why shoul I care about them.

well it'd probably harder to consider people you love to be fiction, those backup memories would be enough to push you over the edge and back to considering everything to be real

Seeing the world as fake is supposed to be a drawback, user, not the goal.

okay, other than making you become a detached sociopath, what other drawbacks should all fiction have? whats the range? how long does it take to erase things?

Maybe the longer something has been in the world the longer it would take to erase?

Outside of the marble, likely limited to touch range.
Should be instant however.

Inside the marble is where you're unbeatable, but the mana cost wouldn't allow for more than a few minutes, and the mental cost of summoning it wouod be even greater.

so it'd take like an hour to kill Gilgamesh

It doesn't work unless the target says "koyuu kekkai...!?" out loud.

Genius.

That’s a genius idea

More like an entire day or two considering how ancient Gil is

how did Shirou keep UBW active for as long as he did if he was a shit tier magus? Didn't Rin help or something?

Mana transfer from Rin. He linked his circuits to hers via the famous tantric ritual.

Gotta wonder how Rin would react to two magical statistical impossibilities just both living in her city at the same time.
Especially if we meet her when she's like 9.
Everyone gets a reality marble!

She keeps those 2 magical statistical impossibilities as close to her as possible because clearly something fucky is going on

what if we got isekai'd by Zelretch and he just wanted to see how it would play out if someone with meta knowledge entered the HGW

>typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Archer_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Moriarty)
So we're just gonna burn the whole city and hope that GilgaNigga has no counters for our missile and beam spam?

That sounds like a kinda out of character abuse of the Second True Magic.

gonna be honest, i have no idea what Zelretch even does other than being a universe hoping vampire

Well, his powers aren't as good as they were when he fought Type-Moon so it's kinda wasteful
There's really no reason for him to go about it in such a roundabout way, either.

There's also the fact that (user) might be above the second true magic by virtue of being from a higher dimension, so to speak. Depending on your interpretation.

Oh no
Bump limit

NEVER MAKE THIS THREAD AGAIN

I wasn't gonna make another one for a while, but now I just might.

well wouldn't that be a good enough reason to try it out? (user) would have the potential to use something above second true magic and that might be worth investing in

I'll report it

Filing a false report is a bannable offence.

new thread?

N0

when this one dies sure

You'll take my stealth Tsukihime discussion threads and you'll enjoy them.