JoJolion

Why have volume sales for JoJolion dropped off in the past years? They used to hit around 400 k in a month in 2017 and over 300 k in 2018 but the last -3 volumes or so do 200 k in the same time period before dropping off the charts.

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Printed manga is dying. Everything is dropping in sales, except the series boosted by their adaptations.

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Damo was peak JJL

other than steal someones wallet, what did he do wrong?

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Haircut

question: when Joshu chose not to show the video of Josuke slipping, was that to prevent josuke from seeing the trick, or to prevent josuke from getting in trouble?

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No, Josefumi was

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hair cant grow on the side of his head. its a medical condition. dont make fun of him.
probably to prevent trouble, joshu already had to deal with bitch mom he didnt want to deal with bitch boomer

No, I meant the arc. Josefumi was the fucking MVP of that arc man. You could see his desperation when he fucked up the twins.

He knew she was a child murderer, and an intruder. He was trying to protect his family in his own way.

he didnt know who this woman was and saw her as a threat or creep, as she just showed up in their house. he fucked with her and knocked a chair at her to let her know shes not welcome and to fuck off

Araki got way better at facial expressions

He did know who she was though, It was said literally only a few pages back. Why do you think he's saying "Are you really our mom?"

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whether he knew who she was or not, he purposely creeped her out so shed leave. he knew his dad didnt want her there and he just learned that she was in jail for murder

Post that page where Jobin pretends to be a retard and eats pancakes.

this one? it's a few pages after this one:

i'm a retard and forgot to attach my image

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His little rage mode outburst was kino
It's a miracle the Aphex brothers didn't die there

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Did the rock humans intentionally sabotage the fruit shop to get to Jobin, or was it just a convenient coincidence?

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Both Aphex brothers fights are the best fights in JJ so far. I wish Araki did more hand to hand combat.

Jobin is Dio if he was raised in a loving, rich family. Even though he's very nice and genial, he will never be content and he will always crave for more. The Rock humans have use for that kind of person.

His crave was caused by him killing his classmate to survive the disease and Kaato telling him that's a good thing

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I wish that Araki didn't went overboard with the bully guy and made him a more morally ambiguous character. As it stands, Joubin's Mom is 95% to kill the kid and it removes alot of the weight from her actions.

Are you implying the Joestars weren’t a rich, loving family?

His raising wasn't made byr the Joestars but with the Brandos. He didn't care what Georges Joestar had to teach him, he cared only about the wealth and the social status.

What's the secret of Speed King?

In the last thread, somebody mentioned something about a rollerblading Rock Human chick and Joshu? Does anybody have the page that's on - IIRC they said it was somewhere in Chapter 87, but I can't find a trace of it anywhere ...

It defies of the second law of thermodynamics

...

Never mind, I think people were just being retarded over the fountain statue of an ice skater.

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It has legs

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still more than steel ball run

It’s kinda because jojo is shit in general and Araki’s “unique” art style is kinda ugly

Didn't he try to rape Yasuho in a public toilet that one time?

if u saw everything from his perspective, it really sounds like she wants to fuck. he thought she was giving consent

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Shouldn't accidentally trying to rape your childhood friend count as "doing wrong"?

it was wrong, but it was an accident so hes not on young dio/shigechi type shit

Josefumi was goddamn savage. Gappy must've retained his hatred for the Twins because he fucked them up good then too. Hand to hand combat in Jojolion is a fine, rare steak.

Little do you all know, Joshu is the true main protagonist of Part 8. Gappy will fail to beat Jobin so Joshu has to do it with his Nut King Call. He then proceeds to have sex with Yasuho because she realized she was actually legally blind and couldn't see his face and how sexy he was.

I really miss Yotsuyu. He had such cool and menacing design.
My 3rd favorite character design in JJL, behind Flashback man and Jobin.

He was in the right here.

he is an incel

>enemy stand that only is dangerous to you if you're an asshole
>can only be defeated by being an even bigger asshole than before
Is Milagro Man the perfect arc?

Tamaki Damo is literally me, except for the stand, the confidence, the money, his womanizer and leader skills and the fact that he's a rock human

I thought it was the former. He wanted to keep Josuke from understanding how the leaf stand worked so he could keep the knowledge to himself and profit.

dude, there are pages that describe rock humans camouflaging themselves as park statues. yes, specifically park statues. Besides, another ice skating stand user would be fucking cool.

If by "profit", you mean "see Josuke suffer", yeah - you're on the money.

don't forget that you're a virgin and he isn't

Don't try to use your stupid opinion as the reason sales are failing

Japan didn't care for SBR much

People keep saying Gappy inherited the ruthlessness from Kira but I see more of in in Josefumi. Kira is more calculating and cold.

when did shigechi try to rape someone? i'd say morally joshu is on par with him.

I think Joshu is gonna show up to the hospital next chapter. He has the perfect motivation to beat the shit out of Tooru. Seems like the perfect time for Joshu and Josuke to set aside their differences until the rock humans are dealt with. milagro man was proof that he's still relevant to the story, and his stand appears in one of the recent covers. are there any reasons why joshu would show up to the hospital now?

That's because the morally ambiguous one is Kaato, not an ugly fat background Giorno. If the kid had been any less awful Kaato would be an irredeemable monster. Even as a total shithead her murdering him is still crossing a line.

What chapter was this

There's no reason he would show up at the hospital because we've already left it. I can see the next location being Rai's place, which is where Gappy could be hiding from the police.

>we've already left it
No, you're just assuming that. Yasuho and Tooru are still outside the hospital near the body, and Josuke and Rai may or may not be far enough to avoid the police/stand users/other roadblocks

Gappy literally says 'let's split up', though you're right that Yasuho and Tooru could still remain at the hospital and meet Joshu or see Holly again.

I can't believe it. This makes too much sense. Bros?

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I understand, but it's possible that somebody stops them on the way before they get too far away from the hospital.

wtf does this even mean

Akefu = karera in disguise
karera was looking for the rokakaka and was caught by "tooru", the real head doctor. karera can make a disguise out of hair pretty easily, she can probably make her head bald too. This page even foreshadows that when she returns, josuke won't even realize it. Also they both wobble, for some reason they put a lot of emphasis on it during the love love deluxe arc.

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You're reading way too much into literally nothing.

Dumb theory but it's possible Karera could be related to Tooru (We never saw his last name) and that they could both be rocks, and Tooru is probably connected to Satoru. This is just my conjecture though.

Reminder this is him getting back at her for the comment she made about not breastfeeding him enough.

Moefag

>araki's ugly shit and moe are the only styles

They pretty much hated SBR, when it was still an ongoing series.
Since then, it has gained popularity and is perceived pretty well in Japanese fanbase (Parts 2 & 6 are still the lowpoints for them).

What do you mean? The effect is active no matter what you do. The original guy left the wallet there because he was trying to trick someone into taking the curse and literally ran off to avoid having it given back to him. Somebody other than him was going to get it, trying to steal the money or trying to be altruistic doesn't matter. And no matter how you try to get rid of the money, burning it, giving it away, donating it, it all comes back with more.

You'd have to be as tasteless as a moefag to think araki's style is ugly nig

The characters aren't as memorable as previous parts.

not really, pretty much all the cast is memorable aside from the minor villains that don't re-appear after their first appearance.

name one character

Check the other panels. She moves.

Incorrect.

I disagree.

That's just the angle changing.

Jackie Chan

I guess it's just tanking for no reason then.

That's fair. Have a nice day.
the one with the funny hat

physical sales for manga in general are dying, likewise with BD sales, most people are just starting to read/watch shit online, especially in recent years
That's why you have Ultra Jump releasing new JJL chapters on the dot online as a service now, also JJL is still the one thing keeping that manga afloat since it's had the cover page several times throughout the past few years including very recently

The only unmemorable character in part 8 is Urban Guerilla and his pet
A lot better than 70% villains of part 3 or every antagonists before prison break of part 6. Part 7 is also fairly bloated with the racers and some of Valentine's goons

It's an industry wide issue

So you're Shigechi then

>Urban and Doremi
>unmemorable
>when they have the most batshit insane designs out of any jojo antagonist
I still remember the days before the chapter released when a spoileranon drip-fed us parts of their designs, shit was fucking insane.

Yeah and Jojolion is still on-going, it's actually doing pretty well with that considered.

I love that Araki introduced a weird rock-tank marsupial thing when he could have just used the design as stand. No, it had to be some bizarre animal working alongside the actual stand, this is why Jojo is great.

>6
That's not true anymore though. 6 has gained a pretty substantial following, F.F., Weather and Anasui in particular are really well-loved by nip fans. 2 isn't regarded as a lowpoint either thanks to the anime

This.
Same with American comics too.

what if... all of jojo is good? crazy idea...

Part 8 has been such a fucking good ride because of how genuinely unpredictable it is. Every chapter is so damn fun and so is the speculation that happens every time we get a new one.

that's correct, user. Glad you've seen the light.

I sometimes shit on part 5 and 6 but I honestly think they're still pretty good mangas, even if I happen to dislike them.

1 and 4 suck

He intended to have consent, and thought that he did, so he wasn't even aware that he was committing rape. It can't be said you're doing the wrong thing if you don't even realise you're doing it and have no reason to suspect it might be wrong.

but shigechi is rich

I don't get why Araki wrote that scene at all.

Another enlightened allpartsCHAD, based AND redpilled.

To show how fucked up Yasuho's situation is and because it's humourous in a fucked up way.

It was funny

he is an incel

I like all parts but 5 and 6 have some glaring issues I just can't ignore.

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Because Araki gets off to Yasuho suffering.

that's a real funny webm bro

>are there any reasons why joshu would show up to the hospital now?
To pick up his hormones.

He was already fatally injured, accidentally, in self-defense by Jobin. If Kaato had done the 'right thing' by sending him to hospital and dobbing in her son, Jobin would have probably died of his disease in juvie (Or Kaato would have given up her life to save him, but he'd still be punished) and the bully would have died too.

Kaato was opportunistic but not immoral.

Bullshit. She covered up the death of a kid and hid the body. That's immoral.

Being the most irrelevant brojo ever

He isn’t a brojo.

his reactions are fucking priceless. He even used his stand to tear off her clothes. Is he, dare i say, /ourguy/?

He's Joshuu, He could be going there to steal and later sell meds or because he wants to perv on the hot leukemia patients.

>Waaaah muh kids
Again: The kid was fatally injured due entirely to his own doing, and doing the 'right thing' would have lead to an actually innocent kid being completely fucked over and potentially dying.

You're demanding that Kaato ruin the life of her son, and either let him die or kill herself just to make YOU feel better. Grow up.

Are you actually fucking insane? It doesn't matter how the kid died. You can't take a dead body and bury it in your backyard.

You seem to be trying to apply real life logic to a fictional series about a magical town where the populace is effected by supernatural phenomenon such as humans who live for hundreds of years and transform into rocks, various personalized magic abilities, earth which fuses the components of things buried in it, a disease which slowly destroys the oldest child of a particular family, and a location where things such as injuries or disease can be sent to another target.

You should probably be wondering about your own inability to discern fiction from reality, as well as your inability for critical thought regarding the use of fictional magical abilities.

Based hairposter.

He's an idolfag

This makes no sense. The fact that the Jojo series features fantasy elements doesn't change anything in regards to what she did.

the higashikatas had been doing that for years you faggot speedreader all kaato did was put some faggot kid in the ground instead of herself

>throw all sense of logic and morality out the window because it's fiction

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What evidence do we have to suggest that this specific fountain statue is a Rock Human, though?

A mother protecting her innocent child and saving his life by trading it for a worthless one is not an immoral action no matter how much you cry and cry about it. Again - the kid you're defending:
Physically beat her mentally-disabled son for no reason while pretending to be his friend and care for him
Forced her mentally-disabled son to take nude photos of her
Tried to burn a little girl and her family alive
Forced Jobin to help him with the latter, when he refused he attacked him and got fucked up by Speed King (Accidentally)

For about the third time - it was a shitty situation where Jobin was going to take the fall he didn't deserve. Kaato needed to cover for him. Though apparently you'd be much more comfortable if she'd thrown him to the wolves? You don't seem to have much of a grasp of morality yourself.

Based motherly user

Okay Kaato we get it

Obviously you shouldn't think my list is accurate but here's JJL anime in two seasons

Love Love Deluxe pt 2 is the aphex bros beatdown

Rai/UrbenGuerilla+Doremifasolatido is actually a fast fight with 30-40 page chapters

And there are 20ish chapters left in JJL

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Letting Jobin die and/or take the blame for a murder he didn't deserve to be punished for is what would be 'throwing all sense of logic and morality out the window', retard-kun.

The flashback explicitly showed that Kaato's actions given the circumstances were the most logical - rather than kill herself, she used a sacrifice who was already doomed, killing two birds with one stone by stopping Jobin from being punished as well as saving his life.

>Roleplaying because you lost the argument
Embarrassing

You're completely missing the point. She doesn't need to hide the body from the police in order to save Jobin.

>part 3-tier pacing

This logic would only hold water if the manga was initially made to accomodate the anime.

She really fucking does, and you really fucking need to reread.

Jobin had been out at night with the kid, and had firelighting equipment on him. The bully had been treating Jobin like shit for a long time, his friends were in on this and would have said as much. The bullies injuries were caused by burns to his head. Jobin had a motive, he was in the right place and the right time, he had the right weapons. If you had your way to make YOU feel more comfortable about these fictional characters and their treatment of unnamed side-characters who abuse them, Jobin would probably still be in jail for something which he didn't intend and couldn't control. Hiding the body was completely necessary and if it wasn't for random chance, Jobin and Kaato both would've benefited and the only character who'd have suffered was the kid who tried to burn little girls alive.

Read the fucking manga holy shit

You make great points and I'm not the guy you're arguing with, but doesn't the crux of the arc depend on the fact that what Kaato did was cold-blooded? Even if the bully deserved it and even if it was to save Jobin it still comes across as showing that Kaato is willing to do whatever it takes to save her family.

Araki's art style keeps degrading and getting worse over the years. It used to be good around part 3-4 but at this point it's like looking at gay vomit

It's not logical to take advantage of someone who's dying unless you're a sociopath. The kid might have deserved what was coming to him, but Kaato had no right to kill him.

>ew Jojo is gay now, i miss when it was about huge muscular men. i'm not a faggot but jojo was better when it featured huge, muscular naked guys, it's so gay now i mean women like it.

im·mor·al
adjective
not conforming to accepted standards of morality.

mo·ral·i·ty
noun
principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.

It has nothing to do with who benefits. There are many decisions that a person can make that will benefit them and the people they care about, but also be immoral. What she did was immoral, objectively. Not by "real world logic" (which would still be valid), but by the actual in-universe logic that Araki used to write the story. The characters in the manga acknowledge that what she did was immoral. This argument isn't your words vs mine, you're trying to go against the author himself.

You read it.

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It’s not sociopathic if you’re doing it to save someone else who deserves to live.

There's a level of that, yes. While Kaato's actions were out of love for Jobin, and are logical and moral in their own way given the circumstances, they're nevertheless scary and repulsive and a lot of characters wouldn't feel comfortable with them (As Norisuke clearly didn't.)

Kaato accepted this, she went to prison and served her time without complaint (The guards at the prison said she'd behaved really well and that they'd really liked her) because she'd accepted that her actions were always going to have consequences. She made the best of a bad situation, but she's still a lot more ruthless than a lot of other characters. Holly presumably loves her kids as much as Kaato, but I doubt that she'd do the same as her in the same situation.

It's perfectly logical to take advantage of someone who's going to die anyway if it's to save someone else. There was going to be a dead kid no matter what. All Kaato did was make him take Jobin's sickness with him.

Actually I paced it a bit slower than part 5's pacing. There's a lot of text in JJL despite the many two page spreads.

Part 3 pacing is if i had every episode cover 1.5 to 2 monthly chapters

I also have the pacing of parts 1-5 and 6-7 projections in my notepad but I don't want to spam

Pastebin them then

why are these types of people always the biggest fags. Just watch HnK and read more 80s manga if you're obsessed with musclemen, JoJo's art truly became great when Araki ditched the musclebods and came up with his own unique style

this, i'm curious especially for part 6 and 7

This is hilarious. Do you really think that picture you're posting supposed to be proof of this babbling you're going on about? It's her protecting her kid by taking the fall for him, you moron. But again, we've established that you'd be much more comfortable if she'd let Jobin get a criminal record, and either let him die or kill herself, just so YOU feel comfortable, so I don't really think you have any idea about morality beyond some sort of black and white thing you're parroting.

And
>immoral
>objectively

>Sacrificing dying evil people to save innocent people is objectively immoral
Why do you want to die on this hill so badly

It is when there are alternatives to saving that person. Kaato is too selfish to sacrifice herself for her own child, so she takes advantage of someone else.
You can tell me that it was the best option for everyone, but don't tell me that it makes her morally correct.

>Do you really think that picture you're posting supposed to be proof of this babbling you're going on about? It's her protecting her kid by taking the fall for him, you moron.
Yes, it does. She was able to take the fall for him. Which she could have also done without burying the body.

If it wasn't immoral, why is she trying to hide it? Why was she punished when it was discovered? How are you people actually this dense?

>If it wasn't immoral, why is she trying to hide it?
Because murder is ILLEGAL.

Am I the only naive idiot who saw this cover beforehand and thought Damo was gonna be some kind of funky neighbour ally character?

Exactly.

No I thought exactly the same, I thought he was going to be some weird uncle/mentor. Turns out that was Norisuke.

>Araki goes out of his way to make a character as repulsive as possible
>Ugly
>Child-abuser
>Manipulator
>Liar
>Creepy pervert
>Bully
>Two-faced
>Murderous
>People defend him because he's a child
Look at this kid and then look at most of the adult villain characters in Jojo, Kaato and Jobin did the world a fucking favor

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same. he feels very well drawn and designed for stand users of the week

>what's legal is also what's moral
pretend i posted joseph screaming oh my god because my ISP is banned from uploading pics

Damn is this what he really thinks of Giorno now?

>pretend i posted joseph screaming oh my god
You know what, that works for me. Good talk.

Thanks, have a nice day.

You too.

I really wish he was desu, wanted Araki to break the mold of his samey character designs. Turns out he's just yet another predictable fat creep.

Murder, which Jobin would be convicted for if they'd found the kid with burn-injuries is illegal you fucking retard. She didn't want to die and she didn't want her son to die or go to jail. Let's say that Kaato did what would make YOU comfortable - she just buried him long enough to transfer Jobin's rock-sickness over to him, then dug him up and turned him in to the police - great! Jobin gets booked for murder, and she probably gets charged as an accessory for her own involvement. What sort of mother do you expect Kaato to be? Why do you hate a woman for defending her child and taking advantage of an abusive brat who was already dying?

Is the reason that you so staunchly defend an incredibly stupid and vile kid because you relate to him?

Look at the rest of his posts, you can't honestly be surprised at his level of critical thinking or arguing.

he was anything but predictable nigga
>comes up with his goofy ass looking like a joke jobber character
>turned out to be a stone-cold boss that almost killed the entire family and was responsible for so much shit in the past
easily one of the best minor antags in the series, when the damo chapters were just coming out the threads blew up

This is what Giorno would be like if he was a h*trosexual

There was nothing predictable about Damo, and despite being fat he's portrayed as incredibly charismatic, scary and attractive which is very novel especially for Jojo. Look at how Valentine was a joke villain as a fatass but as soon as he bulked up he became serious.

We also already got a fat ally in Shigechi anyway so it wouldn't have been new. They even look a bit alike.

thought the same about Ojirou but alas he got man-of-jacuzzi'd

>man-of-jacuzzi'd
kek that made me warm up to his death

I don't think this is what's happening. I'm pretty sure Tooru IS the doctor. I think his stand and ability is based around the fact that he dresses similar to a matador/bullfighter (who happen to say "toro" when doing their thing).

He's using the stand to create an illusion of this fast man, and the gappy gang keep getting baited and running into shit

Technically Ojirou did become a bro

I meant predictable in the sense that he HAD to be a villain just going by the looks. And it was still pretty obvious he wasn't gonna be just some throwaway jobber.

How big a difference does the coloring make in part 8? Some parts they feel about equal in quality between b&w and color and some parts the coloring makes a huge difference.

Araki draws villains as beautiful and handsome ( DIO, Bruford, Kars, Diavolo, later Funny Valentine) or outrageously ugly (Tarkus, any Vampire, Enya, early Valentine, Poor Tom). The bigger major scumbags tend to be prettier ones.

It isn’t as amoral as some people in this thread are claiming.

Vanilla Ice and DIO were gorgeous what are you talking about

Yeah and I listed DIO as a gorgeous villain?

Oh wait you mean the Vampire part, yeah I fucked up there. I meant 'any mook vampire'. Straizo is also pretty attractive and Araki made sure to show off his youthful naked body. This does help my point though; the major relevant Vampires are all gorgeous.

there are moments i prefer in color and moments i prefer in black and white. i prefer tom in black and white. for the most part id say color

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Why isn’t he blond?

Read the chapter you fucking tard, it explicitly talks about how she knew it was going to happen and had accepted it. The bully dug his own grave by treating Jobin the way he did and got himself fatally wounded, Kaato killed two birds with one stone by shielding Jobin from the law AND being able to live for his sake.

Pic related - apparently this is how Araki portrays a vile evil horrible selfish mother, and a bully with his tongue lolling out of his mouth and little squinty eyes strangling a kid half his size while screaming at him to burn a woman alive is a poor, helpless victim.

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BASED

I want to snuggle up with Diavolo so badly.

I mean Shigechi was a little shit for the most of his chapter tho, and got killed off soon anyway. But my point isn't about having an X amount of fatter characters be the good guys or getting ''inclusion'' points or whatever crap, it's more about not being so damn predictable with his designs. Doesn't have to be something novel, just make him a random chill neighbour friend of the family/Norisuke so it doesn't seem like the whole of Morioh is constantly out to get them.

how on earth is his design predictable? No one expected him to be the genius he turned out to be in the end because he looked like a fat dude in a goofy outfit with goofy hair. He looked normal, especially compared to rock humans like Yotsuyu and the Aphex Twins

But his designs aren't predictable, Araki's villains are pretty diverse and that's not even counting things like the orangutan, bird, sentient sword, baby, multiple trees, etc.

So your complaint is probably more that everyone who isn't a Higashikata or Josuke/Yasuho was a villain.

This but when he's in the morgue, cold and "dead", and he can only watch helplessly as the coroner decides to have some fun and relieve some stress. Thanks Giorno!

I’d rather have him alive.

I guess it could be a different angle
its just throwing me off because it looks like shes grabbing part of her leg, and the second panel wouldn't look that different if her hand was on her leg

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Imagine having his body all to yourself.

but then again araki isn't that great with consistent art so idk

If you've followed this series thus far and have a decent grasp on how Araki writes, it's pretty fucking obvious his initial portrayal was a false-flag and that there's more going on. It wasn't surprising to me in the slightest.
Diverse villains aren't a problem, it's the fact that you see someone like Damo and immediately know he can't be anyone else but a villain.
>So your complaint is probably more that everyone who isn't a Higashikata or Josuke/Yasuho was a villain.
And yeah, this is definitely a factor as well.

unironically based

I can't think of any other villains introduced like Damo; a total joke that turns out to be terrifying.

Not really, there aren't many villains drawn like him in the series that gave off the same jobber-vibe. No one expected him to have the entire family and Josuke so close to death nor did anyone expect him to have pretty much been the one to kill Kira and lead to Josuke's creation.
He looked incredibly incompetent and, up till this point in the series, every one of the minor antagonists went out without putting too much of a fight, so it was set up incredibly well. Really don't see how he was a samey bad guy in the least.

Yes, user I admitted that given the situation she did the best thing, and I never called the kid a victim, I said he had it coming, but that doesn't make child murder okay.

I never said he was bad AS a villain, especially in that flashback arc and the Vitamin C fight was fine. It's just the fact that his design is an instant giveaway that he'll be some sort of villain, that's what is predictable. That's why I said before that I was naive for initially thinking he could possibly be a random non-malicious Morioh resident/ally.

baste tim posted

Every time I see this image, I ask myself who the fuck thought this color palette looked good?

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being a feminine boy is gay. masculinity is not gay retard

>being a feminine boy is gay
How?

Probably because the story has been shit for the past several years at this point.

>are there any reasons why joshu would show up to the hospital now?
to pretend he has an incurable disease so he can get his prostate checked by a hot nurse

lol

hahaha, that would be weird..... unless?

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>masculinity isnt gay

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based, twink sissyfags will disagree with THOSE digits?

>karera hasnt been brought back yet
>it hasnt occurred to anyone that jobin has the branch
>kaato hasnt done shit yet
>head doctors ability hasnt been confirmed
how many more years lads?

Civilians in JoJo have always been pieces of shit

Completely based

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I read a summary and ser the covers before reading jjl so i thought that Damo was norisuke

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hot

None, but you don't have any proof that suggests it isn't a rock human. Despite you saying so. You mindless fucking retard.

It's Jojo, unless you're retarded then every minor villain should be totally obvious. Stop having an autistic breakdown because you can't into dramatic irony.

The burden of proof is on the person claiming that an inconsistent drawing is actually a plot point.

I dont give a fuck about your burden of proof bullshit. I don't need to prove that it's true because I didn't posit that it's DEFINITELY true. You went ahead and called everyone retarded for hypothesizing it, while also being blatantly wrong when trying to prove it false. This is why you don't have any friends in real life.

This man... who is he?

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Somber Thanksgiving

You ask this every single thread. You get the same answers of every single time.

bruh look at this dood

Honest to god I believe the best theory is he's Kira's ghost father.

From his point of view, this was a righteous action. He is telling her to fuck off. I actually quite like that the entire family just exiled her due to the child murdering shit, even though they really should listen to her own version of the story. But it shows they have a moral code.

he's 89

Jobin obviously is on her side, Joshu and Daiya don't remember her. It's really just Hato and Norisuke.

Im behind, has anything big happened since the Ozone Baby fight?

This. The whole point of Joshu's character is that he eventually does the right thing in a roundabout way

Tsurugi killed yasuho, Jobin is the head doctor, andJoshu and Josuke are teaming up to fight Rai at the moment.

Where is their stand Araki???!!!!

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Tsurugi gets King Crimson

Yasuho's dead

What kind of ability would it be?

yes and no, the supporting characters like the Higashikatas or Karera are pretty fun but sadly we don't see too much of them

「DIGITAL LOVE」

Can't wait for the Head Doctor reveal next month

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Is anyone else getting bored? The fact that we still don't know the villain is getting on my nerves. I kind of lost interest from the moment mamezuku is introduced. Shame because i was enjoying it

>we still don't know the villain
Speak for yourself, brainlet. Jobin is obviously the main villain, no matter what your autistic headcanon is.

>The fact that we still don't know the villain is getting on my nerves.

GOD WHAT WILL IT TAKE IT'S FUCKING JOBIN

retard

Did you even read the most recent chapter or is this just lazy bait?

> "i don't need to prove that it's true"
> asking for evidence or information causing you to come to your possible conclusion
> snapping at someone over the internet over Schrodinger's imaginary silicon boss battles
Wow, man, and you'd just gotten your thirty day chip too.

No i didn't. I'll go read it and see if it pick up my interest

The thing is, you're assuming I'm the same poster from 4 replies back. Shut the fuck up and stop posting retard.

dilate

user, what are you even talking about. the point is that there is a park statue that changed angles in one panel. additionally, theres a page that states rock humans like to camouflage as park statues. some people think this means it's "possible" that it could be a rock human. the problem is that you're calling them retarded for literally no reason. you're the fucking retard because you couldn't remember basic information that araki relayed to the audience, and you're upset that you were called out on it.

samefagging, nice

Fine, you're right. I don't give a shit anyway. I'll just shitpost about Jobin some more.

Sounds about right.

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Will JJL finish before WW3 occurs?

Depends on how the election goes.

cringe schizo

this is probably why

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I'm laughing at you right now

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cope seethe dilate sneed lmao
boy do those words hurt me, they cut me deep to my core

THIS NIGGA STOLE A BUS!!!

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samefagging, nice

I just replied to you twice. I made that fairly obvious for a reason, newfag

What stop?

I'm laughing at you right now

This is official? Holy crap, I did not realize he was black.

How is it logically sound that a background element like that, which wasn't even the focus of a panel, would end up being something as impactful as another fucking Rock Human.

It's retarded because it's a fucking tangential connection at best to the information we've already been presented, based off a single inconsistency between panels that even Araki could be found guilty of. You are the one grasping for fucking straws here, retard.

Well, he DID name his stand "Doggy Style"...

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saying it's a possibility isn't grasping for straws. ataki foreshadows shit like that all the fucking time. when you're proven wrong, do me a favor and hang yourself. fucking pathetic virgin.

Black plantman reminded me of that godly image. Somebody please post Gappy's dab and Swerve on a nigga

also, not a background element. araki went out of his way to draw it. the statue was also there when tsurugi blacked out. combined with the other shit, to say that it's not even possible to be a rock human is just being stubborn.

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Is this the new hot Yea Forums buzzword?

Wouldn't want the constant spam to get boring, would you?

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i want to suck on mommy kaato's milkers!

Jojolion is not that good

Correct, it's not good it's great.

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Why is she wobbling?

Do you guys listen to music while reading Jojolion? Or maybe you prefer the silence?

Will Jobin top this?

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I don't think they ever state why. but she does it several different times.

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When’s the og Morioh rock human coming back?

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Do you have any more manga vs anime gifs like that?

no

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I wish Jobin was at least half as charming as Valentine was.

For real though I wonder how it would have turned out if Yasuho found Josuke instead. I have a feeling that by wet she meant that she pissed herself out of fear (I mean, I don't blame her).

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>implying he isn't

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>Nobody thought Jobin has the branch
It has you dumb retard, Yasuho suspected just that, and the only reason nobody expected it is because of Paper Moon King's ability, which only Yasuho knows about besides Jobin.
>Kaato hasn't done shit
Because she's not the villain, deal with it, faggot.
>head doctor's ability hasn't been revealed
It has, partially.

Jobin is the first villain to ever get laid in his part, he even got his dream beetle girl

Holy shit I forgot this happened.

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I really need to catch up with Jojolion what the fuck is this

Valentine has zero charm.

god i love Jobin so much, how does Araki do this? his incels and manchildren are so endearing, i even love Hazamada.

Jojo is dying....

This is a huge stretch but don't most Rock Humans have physical defects? Aisho had heart problems.

Bros... it's me... the doomposter that always... types... like... this... Please gib (You)'s for my falseflags...

Jobin's wife went though this whole ordeal that ended up basically making her nose look super weird (this was actually the best possible outcome for her after what she went through) and Jobin loves it because it looks super weird and I guess he has a fetish for that kind of stuff, so they immediately have sex as soon as he sees it.

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I always have Soft & Wet in mind

youtube.com/watch?v=0RYp3Ad8SLY

This one specifically

Why are stats in JoJo such bullshit? D4C has an A in speed and Scary Monsters a B but Diego was outspeeding D4C with attacks.

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You've asked this question quite a lot of times didn't you?

Great song, fits Jojolion perfectly. I'm personally fond of Mc Hammer's version

Jesus christ I stopped reading at Dolomiti, how much shit I missed? Thanks for the explanation, user. I'll start reading tommorow.

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>You've asked this question quite a lot of times didn't you?
Nope, I was just rereading part 7 after a long time and it's the first time I asked. I know stats are stupid and barely say what the stand is capable of.

Way too much, start reading.

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89

What?

I think its supposed to be that theory about how the head doctor can steal images of people or whatever and its implying that the head doctor had stolen (whatever her name)'s image and was pretending to be her, which is why she was wobbling so much.

huh, I remember somebody asking this exact same question a lot
I don't remember the answer though, it's been 3 years since I read SBR but I think it had something to do with the fact that Valentine has human reflexes and he needs to react to Diego's attack and then D4C may attack him. So D4C is faster than Diego but it's in control of a human and not a dinosaur. I think. Alternatively the B in scary monsters may stand for the speed of turning things into dinosaurs?
this shit is retarded, fuck stand stats

The doctor removed all traces of himself, specifically he also removes his image at the hospital, in the same manner that Kyo was removed from the family picture. Seeing as Wonder of you (let's call it that) battles a pursuing opponent there's a possibility he can use this on other people too, so Kyo is unable to be found because of it, all traces have been removed, Araki didn't "forget", he had to specifically remove Kyo from the image, and I doubt he'd remove her out of the story on purpose.

Actually this one's the opposite. I think the head doctor is projecting his image onto Karera with his stand. Karera went looking for the rokakaka, and went to where Kira used to work. She got caught and was forced to be used as a decoy, to lead Josuke and the others away from where the real head doctor is. Meanwhile he can use it to fuck with mitsuba at the Higashikata estate. Tooru's stand is causing all the other weird shit. Seems to me like it activates on touch, and causes you to be stopped by "roadblocks" when you pursue the image of the head doctor.

When's new episode

but then how is she teleporting? all she can do is hairplay

when was this taken?

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9/11

Why did Araki do it?

Actually the bumbing and getting hurt Power is the head doctor stand

He's just that kind of man. If he wills it, it shall be.

>source: dude trust me
It could just as easily be Tooru's stand. Hell, the stand that does appear has the same symbols as Tooru.

How the fuck did Karera know about equivalent exchange in the first place?

How would you feel if JJL Holly has Star Platinum?

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I am talking about the power of hit stuff and get hurt, in chapter 85 when mitsuba sees the head doctor on the hills she runs and touch the window causing her's hand to bleed.
The show stand is probably tooru

Pic related

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Probably from stalking Josefumi.

Will Jobin get a catchphrase?

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Based backpedaling

Reread my post, I already explained it. Mitsuba got hurt because she was opening the window, and the doctor was outside. It's possible that it's the doctors stand, but It's also possible that Tooru's stand has a switch that works when you pursue "the image" of something, or it works in some other way I can't even think of. There's plenty of other ways that the hit stuff and get hurt stand could be Tooru's, you just aren't thinking outside the box. Araki has made plenty of impossible scenarios make sense, like polnareff going down the staircase.

Nvm I didn't explain it, sorry. I think I cut that part out before I posted it.

Why aren't women real?

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They're real but only for black men.

Josuke and Norisuke both know Paper Moon King's ability

You wish you were black

I'm white, and I know my place.

on Yea Forums, pretending to be a cuckold to make people "angry"

>let me dig up this 8 hour old argument

ARAKI????

If Jobin dies in part 8 my heart will perish.

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Based

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What if he dies in Part 9?

>part 9

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I don't get the kyo disappearance there, what does it have to do with anything and what chapter did it happen in?

what's with the horse?

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They're toy horses. Now stop asking this.

I read it out loud using different voices for every character. And also do cool sound effects when the need arises.

it would be kino if Jolyne actually eat this before her last encounter with the gay priest.

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Based, how does your Jobin sound like?

The idea is that the head doctor can steal somebody's image and use it in some way. When he steals the image it removes all traces of them, even from photos. What he can do with the image could go 1 of 2 ways. Possibility #1: If the head doctor was the one with wobbly legs, then Karera was already a fake. The head doctor was just using his ability to get information out of Josefumi/kira. This seems unlikely though, because she's able to show josuke a picture of herself. Possibility #2 is if the karera is the wobbly one. In this case, the head doctor can project an image, his own, onto karera. This way he can force Karera into being a diversion for Josuke to follow. It would also explain why his pictures suddenly disappeared from his website, because he had to remove his own image to project it. It also explains how he got to the Higashikata estate. I think that Kyo's disappearance is foreshadowing his ability, and we'll find Kyo dead (or whatever) in the near future.
Also the Karera thing is mostly a joke. If you take her out and just say the head doctor was projecting his image onto nothing, or manipulating his relfection or something, then the idea makes more sense.

Also, Kyo was shown to be missing in the flashforward right bef

...right before the head doctor chase.

Based, give this man a requiem fruit or something.

Marlon Brando, of course.

I listen to a mix of vidya music. Mostly persona and ace attorney

Why is jolyne so cute

How would you raise these three cute "girls"?

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I've tried doing a "bootleg leitmotif" method of reading chapters of various parts with corresponding music playing (e.g. "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" while reading White Album) and it's a real hit or miss process.

That being said, Soft & Wet has gotten perpetually stuck in my head after encountering it through JoJolion, so I can't help but think of it while reading.

Based

He already has his trademark beetles. What else do you want?

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You should post a comic dub to youtube.

A catchphrase...

and I'm saying he already has particular niche, why do you want a catchphrase?

Autism.

he already has

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89? really?

I'm thinking yeah

thought he was native american if anything

Great but doesn't have the built up, but I believe Araki will deliver.

He already has more build up than Valentine. We didn't really know that guy's deal until the climax of the story.

I meant the speech not the character, of course Jobin is better but that speech was a great climax to Valentine. Also Valentine showed up pretty early in SBR and around halfway is were it started focusing on him more.

Why do people shill this page? He literally exposes himself as a lying bastard right after this.

That's the point.

Maybe because Araki should not have made this rebooted universe in the first place.

Initial sales of JJBA throughout the parts:

Part 3 sold average of 200k
Part 4 sold average of 300k
Part 5 sold average of 500k
Part 6 sold average of 150k
Part 7 sold average of 50k

Just to put this in perspective:

Bleach sales spiked up to a million copies initially during the Arrancar arc (volumes 21-32)

During the Fake Karakura Town War arc (volumes 33-48) the sales either were between 800K to 600K

Thousand Year Blood War (volumes 55-74) sales were around 500k to 450K

Do you see something a bit odd with Jojo sales? ESPECIALLY compared to Bleach sales?

Both had declines due to both stopping the use of popularity, but Bleach's sales still went on strong because the author actually had connected the Quincy arc to the rest of the series. Steel Ball Run should have been it's own thing and not a Jojo product.

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HOL UP

Which faction in part 8 is most solidly in the wrong? The drug dealers?

Jojo manga sales declined because nobody cared about jojo post 2000's as more popular stuff started to release.
It only became relevant again with the anime, and manga sales as a whole are declining anyway since nobody buys stuff anymore

Who cares about sales? JoJolion is peak JoJo.

This. I dunno why people are still going on about physical sales these days.

But Jojo never dipped below 150K though. That is until part 7. It's the combination of Japanese not liking the western setting of Part 7 and the creation of the REBOOT mindset.

People are retarded the reboot is better than part 1-6 as a whole.

SBR started in 2007 and ended until 2011.
From 2007 to 2011 there was a LOT of incredibly popular shonen to make people completely forget about Jojo.
It isn't a thing of the nips, it's that jojo fell out of flavor as time passed.

Why didn't Star Platinum explain his powers to Jotaro like Spice Girl did to Trish?
Could've saved them a lot of trouble and even avoided a couple of deaths

Not all stands talk, Star Platinum only communicates in oras

No, Steel Ball Run started in 2004. Not 2007.

It was a monthly series, not weekly

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Do you think Jojolion will ever be more popular than Steel Ball Run in the west? The story and overall cast are better

He was too shy.

Huh, I always thought it was 2007.
That's even worse then, it took way too fucking long to finish just like JJL is doing right now but still managed to be popular (somewhat)

Yes

Once It is completes yes

>part 6 ends with pucci accelerating time and causing alternate timelines to occur
>part 7 - 8 are the alternate timelines
>part 9 is the continuation of part 6 when pucci gets defeated and the original timeline comes back

Keep misunderstanding a comic book, user, you're doing great.

>>part 9 is the continuation of part 6 when pucci gets defeated and the original timeline comes back

Oh god, if Araki did that then people would be questioning what even is going on at that point.

>Wait, I thought Jolyne was killed!??!
>Wasn't she replaced by Irene?
>So are we following her child now? I thougtht we were in some kind of reboot universe last I checked
>What the actual hell is going on at this point? What was even the point of Part 7 and Part 8?

The confusion would truly be bizarre...

Cringe

soon

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speedreaders should be gassed

shes gone, user

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>pucci gets defeated and the original timeline comes back
That already happened.

What are the odds that she comes back? Its not possible that Araki just forgot to draw her.

>killing Johnny isn't justice

> "You come to me, on the day of the Rokakaka harvest, to request of me a favour. I cannot refuse."

I've thought about it after a while, and even took a look back in Araki's book (Manga in Theory and Design) when I recalled something about coincidences and foreshadowing.

Occam's razor, sure, is a good principle ... but, here. I was wrong.

To all of you who I called retarded for believing in the possibility of the fountain statue being a Rock Human ... I'm sorry. Today, I was the User of 「Cringe Crimson」.

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This post is idiotic and likely a falseflag.

Admitting when your wrong is a sign of something good, surely. Given the weird shit that's happened at that fountain so far I would also err on the side of the fountain statue being a Rock Human.

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>even Iwasuke is more important than her

Milagro Man comfy as fuck

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You a real one for admitting your mistake

SPEEEEEYYYYYY SPEYAHH!

Is part 8 the only part where the art gets worse over time?

It doesn't...

JoJolion threads are:
>more active
>have generally well thought-out theory crafting
>contain less partshitting
>contain next to no sperging and falseflagging
It's really the animeonlys, isn't it? The price you pay for a good adaptation, I suppose. End me when Beastars threads suffer the same fate.

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The picture is just seen from farther away the next time it's seen so there's less detail.

So... why do you think Norisuke is gonna get killed? It would kind of make sense if he tried to use King Nothing to find the branch, realize it's in Jobin's room, and find himself killed shortly after. Also, did his hand get chopped off? It's hard to make out his wounds.

only panel where joshu doesnt look like a loser

I deserve to be accused of that, admittedly.
Thank you for your forgiveness.That being said, allow me to use my Yea Forumsutism to make this right.

> Tsurugi blacked out, under what circumstances?
In Ch.87, right before we cut to Tsurugi at the fountain, we see Norisuke, Daiya and Hato in the fruit parlour.
This begs the question: why was Tsurugi left unattended? How did he end up there; and why wasn't Jobin around - especially after what happened in Chapter 83? Which, coincidentally, also involved Tsurugi experiencing a blackout.

The only issue with Chapter 83, in the "blackout Stand" hypothesis, is that there isn't a woman who looks similar to the statue anywhere in that chapter (unless the teacher is secretly a Rock Human). I'm at a loss, lads. Maybe somebody else has a better idea than me.

The blond teacher seems like the only suspect for the blackouts, aside from Tsurugi himself. The head doctor was only there for the 1st blackout.

what the fuck is the appeal of a bug bite fetish

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Maybe it wasn't the statue after all...

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well, it would explain why mitsuba was being such a bitch to her. rule of thumb for araki's writing: if it doesn't make sense, there's probably a reason for it.

they look like small nipples

puffy pink/red flesh

>rule of thumb for araki's writing: if it doesn't make sense, there's probably a reason for it.
>Polpo
>Jolyne's elf lawyer
Those are the only examples that actually work that I could think of, even then Polpo's weird alien nature is likely meant to convey the kind of shit Giorno's getting himself into, as if to say "the world of Passione is fucking weird, kid, tread carefully" But I had to still mention him so I could have an excuse to post one of my favorite pieces of fan art. Polpo doesn't get enough love. Anyway, yeah, your rule of thumb is very true, elf lawyers aside. That's just what happens when your gene pool is an inch deep.

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it's emporio

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part 6 was extremely ugly by the end

Kyo is missing from the picture in the 2nd to last chapter and people have been trying to figure out why (the original picture of the family was "taken" in chapter 34).

Some people have connected the "disappearance" of Kyo in the picture to the "disappearance" of the Head Doctor's photos on the website, due to a stand ability.

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Kyo is too cool of a character to just write out of the story. I love her stand.

>that scene where Gappy confronts her and she just flings a loose pen at him so the cap comes open and it appears

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Well, he IS just japanese Snoop Dogg, would make sense.

Maybe Jotaro's mindset? He believed it was an evil spirit and treated it as such, whereas Trish was around stand users and could understand it better.
But obviously the actual answer is just Araki.

his powers were just "do everything really strong and really fast", punch, breath, see, grab stuff, throw stuff. its not about explaining its about the user getting creative

>Tonio from part 4, and his brother from Purple Haze Feedback.

WHAT? Massimo Volpe is related to Tonio Trussardi?

do you think Araki reads through JoJoLion to remind himself of the plot points?

retard, Jotaro can stop time. that's the point.

This.
She's not - the Head Doctor is projecting her image onto something or someone else, causing her to become effectively invisible. See

I like this dude's style, I just wish he wasn't so boring

If Gappy was still a freak-ass, his hardass attitude would bounce off him better, I feel. But Gappy is pretty serious these days as well, their crew feels boring besides Yasuho

Where does this retarded idea that Pt 7 and 8 happened as a result of Made in Heaven?

Fucking speedreaders, now that Part 5 has been crowned as the peak of Jojo and battle anime in general and everyone hearing how Part 6 is the worst everyone's going to skip straight to Part 7.

She said that because she spilled juice on her clothes when confronting Tsurugi

This sounds very reasonable. Somebody should make an easily digestible collage of everything on this.

I dont think norisuke is dead at all, Im 99% sure its just gonna be an illusion of an even more evolved paper moon King, being used to throw someone off or make the family deal with it while jobin harvests the rokakaka.

Arakis just trying to trick people, considering how much Jobin loves his father and how much of a pussy tsurugi is it all just lines up.
No way Arakis just gonna waste a character death as a weird sneak peek, its not what he does

Why didn’t Tusk tell Johnny to shoot himself?

because she is a woman

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Araki is extremely based and redpilled.

/thread

here ya go user.

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“Do you know what ‘Chumimi~ni’ means, Johnny? It is not just a stand cry. In my people’s tongue, it means, ‘You should shoot yourself.’”

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#
“Do you know what ‘Chumimi~in’ means, Johnny? It’s not just a 「Stand Cry」. In my people’s tongue, it means, ‘You should shoot yourself.’”

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>Yukiko
I guess she really was that forgettable

>Persona 4

Nice

Who is Massimo Volpe?

Fuck, I always mix those names up.

Does that mean the head doctor spotted outside the window was actually Ojiro? They were both around the same area, right?

What the fuck? I thought we should have the finale for Golden Wind in a 1 hour special. Why did I only see a 24 minute episode 38?

Guys, which rock human is this?

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Johnny