I just finished watching this. What the fuck were those last two episodes? They were such dogshit

Retarded NewFags propagating this myth. Shut the fuck up.

OP, stop being a Netflix retard and watch EoE you fucking idiot.

Yes, the manga and the Rebuild series are good. You can watch Rebuild after EoE, read the manga whenever you want.

Watch EoE. Just know that it continues from 24'. Yes, the last two fits, yadda-yadda.

It's just basic Jungian/Hermann Hesse stuff, what do you not understand?

It's a different branch like the manga

The last 2 episodes are better than EoE

Reminder that nobody in this thread JUST watched Evangelion. Nobody new watches this series. Just old timers who want to remember the past pretending they’re new to the series to spark a conversation.

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i just finished eoe today after spending the last 2 days watching nge

Nice lie

It’s unwatchable the character design and choppy animation are too outdated. There’s a few moments of very good animation but they’re far and few in between before anybody posts clips of the good moments.

It was recently added to netflix, it explains all the new people watching eva

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Ah shit,i forgot to download the Re-Take series from sadpanda. Any of you guys got a torrent to the complete set bot H and non-h?

It’s old people checking out the dub.

This. Most new fans probably dropped it episode two for a more modern series. The first two episodes are pretty slow with choppy animation and it seems to be a monster of the week type show at first with a whiny protagonist.

A lot of old fans probably forgot Eva only starts getting good on episode 23.

They were too deep for you, sorry bro

t. underage
you'll understand someday

>all these 16-21 year olds watching this for the first time because they actual access Liberalflix

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I finished it and EoE for the first time a week ago.

I've been on 4chins since 2008, always heard/saw stuff about Evangelion but never gave a shit because most of it seemed to be autism about japanese cartoon girls. Just finished it all last night for the first time and loved it. I also have watched Gurrenn Lagann but that does not hold a candle to Evangelion. This is literally my first post in Yea Forums ever probably.

It is one of the most popular doujin around. I am sure you can find it at other places.

Eva gets good in episode 1. It then gets less good during episodes 7-13 and then it gets reaches legendary status.

That is a falsehood.
25/26 is in a seperate continuity from EoE

I'm a first time watcher, just finished it all, my understanding is that 25/26 is the Instrumentality project going off and Shinji reaching his good end, his self-acceptance and etc, with the good end of everyone around him accepting/praising him with that bizarre congratulations thing. EoE is Shinji having the complete opposite reaction to instrumentality. I don't really know what I'm talking about here, just my interpretation

That is my interpretation.
25/26 is about Shinji being complimented by instrumentality, deciding he can be happy and joins the others.
EoE is Shinji rejecting the idea of instrumentality entirely and living back on Earth.

EoE and episode 26, while not being 1:1 of each other, share the same conclusion and watching 1 of them helps understanding the other.

They take place in the characters' minds.
Watch EoE to see what happens in reality.

Would Ritsuko had been a good guardian for Shinji?

I thought instrumentality didn't happen at all in 25/26.

> t.Netflix user

definitely not she treated Shinji the same as Gendo did, disposable.

How could you ask that? have you not seen the show. Ritsuko couldn't take care of a cat and had to send it off to her grandmother, she was completely absorbed into her work.

>25/26 is about Shinji being complimented by instrumentality, deciding he can be happy and joins the others.
This doesn't really make sense with the dialoge in episode 26.
A lot of it is about how the existence others helps you define yourself, which doesn't really makes sense if everyone is one.

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Gendo's version of instrumentality happens in 25/26

They tell you when it happens.

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Its been 16 years since my last rewatch, guess I forgot

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HAHAHAHAHA

So what is Gendo's version of instrumentality? What did Seele want from instrumentality?

But that dialogue was in reference to needing others in order to even be able to define oneself.
Shinji is told at the end of 25 that he basically locked himself away from everyone else in his own enclosed corner, the ending of 26 was Shinji deciding its okay to "stay here", with "here" being instrumentality and he stops blocking himself off from everyone - which leads to the walls coming down and congragulations

If you don't enjoy the last two episodes you have no brain. If you don't enjoy all the ones before that you have no dick

So in the 25/26 continuity, where Shinji accepts instrumentality/himself, what would have happened next? everyone is just fused into LCL orange goop living together in harmony? I am also confused about the EoE ending, how did Shinji and Asuka end up on the beach there after everyone got gooped/asuka got ripped apart?

>So what is Gendo's version of instrumentality
This is his description of it in episode 25.

>it is not that we are returning to nothingness
>We are only restoring everything to its original state
>We are only returning to our mother, who has been lost to this world
>All souls will become one and find eternal peace

And from EoE we learn that the reason he wants it is because he wants to reunite with Yui.

>What did Seele want from instrumentality?
We don't know from the show. But apparently one of the video games have a SEELE endings were they use the mass-produced Evas as vessels to become gods after instrumentality. But who knows if this is what Anno intended in the movie itself.

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Even Magma Diver?

Let's not talk about magma diver

youtube.com/watch?v=yiZP1cAFsC4
And who are you, GAY!?

What's wrong with magma diver

>But who knows if this is what Anno intended in the movie itself.
It is slightly supported in that in EoE they mention they don't have as many MP-Evas as they would like (the number they wanted would likely be 12, 1 for each SEELE member).
But for whatever reason they decide to say "fuck it" and do it then and there with 9.

I finished watching the series and watched the end of evangelion a few days ago and i have now finished the 3 rebuild films, what the fuck am i meant to do?

Both of them rejected instrumentality.

>the ending of 26 was Shinji deciding its okay to "stay here", with "here" being instrumentality
Stay here could just as well mean the real world though. There is a lot of dialogue that talks about the importance of individuality and defining yourself in the episode. How do you define yourself when everyone is one.
There is also this line. Which suggest that the "stay here" line might as well be referring to reality.
To me it is hard to reconcile the message of self-acceptance with the combining everyone into one being.

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Read the manga, then play NGE2, then play Ayanami Raising Project, then learn Japanese and read ANIMA and then play Evangelion Detective, and then finally play the PS2 port of the first Evangelion Pachinko machine.

Yeah I share your view as well.

Reality could also mean in converse to Shinji being alone in his bubble playing with his fantasy world where no one else is real.
Interacting with the others in instrumentality is still real.

Anno got lazy and instead of making a real ending he threw out every semblence of subtelty out the window and just told the message of the show outright.

Didnt she hate Yui? She probably would have physically abused Shinji

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one. They ran out of money and had to make do. I'd like to think of it as a very rough draft of eoe.

Naoko Akagi hated Yui.
I don't think Ritsuko really knew her much.

Also, if Ritsuko thought this would make her a legitimate lover to Gendo by replacing his wife as the mother of her son, she might go for it - in a rather creepy warped priorities kind of way

But there is also line like these that contrast each other.
The first one is from just when instrumentality starts in episode 25
And the second one is from the second half in episode 26.
First line:
>I feel like I've experienced it before, as if the shape of my body is melting away
Second line:
>Beings without the existence of things other than yourself, you cannot know your own shape

The first line is obviously about how instrumentality makes one lose once own shape, while the second quote is about how existing with others make you form your own shape.

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Alright so I watched the show 1-26 and End of Evangelion. But what is "rebuild of evangelion"? Just three movies that recap/change the story? Where do they line up with 1-26 and EoE. This franchise is very confusing

i genuinely dont believe anyone on this board has done this

I think Ayanami Raising Project is a favourite here. Certainly better liked than Rebuild.

Treat Rebuild as a different continuity.
Rebuild 1.0 lines up with episodes 1-6 of the original series with some cryptic small alterations, but it goes off the rails from there with 2.0 covering similar events to mid-series but very differently and 3.0 just flat out going crazy.

There are right now people who call themselves "anime fans", on Yea Forums even, who can't watch influential anime like Eva or Azumanga until the copyright jews arrange to have them on a paid streaming service.

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>The ending of 26 was Shinji deciding its okay to "stay here", with "here" being instrumentality
No, that dismisses his entire arc in 25-26. What shinji is doing is realizing that it's ok for people to be separate entities, because despite his misunderstandings and paranoia about other people's view of him he comes to the realization that people do care about him despite what they present on the outside. That thought process is the opposite of Instrumentality. The ending practically says to your face "the world is what you make of it, you don't need a collective consciousness to achieve that". End of Evangelion reveals that this self-realization is because of Yui & Rei's contribution to his psyche in the Third Impact. It even adds the lines from Shinji which basically equate to "it's worth it to go through all this pain and betrayal just to be with the people I care about again". There's no reason to think it's a separate continuity, or at least that's the way I've always seen it. I'm also of the impression that Yui's goal all along was for people to understand this concept, using the Third Impact as a catalyst. Which is why others can escape the primordial soup as long as they have the same realization as Shinji.

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The second line has nothing to do with instrumentality being an experience of existence without others, its in context to Shinji isolating himself in a world of oblivion.
If instrumentality caused one to fully lose their sense of individuality, then no one would be able to have any conversation or congratulations scene with Shinji within instrumentality in the first place.

Shinji's arc in 25/26 is realizing he can love himself, not that people can be seperate entities.

>The second line has nothing to do with instrumentality being an experience of existence without others
That isn't the point. The point is that having your own shape is seen as something good in episode 26, while it is established in episode 25 that you lose your shape in instrumentality.

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Part of loving yourself would include knowing that instrumentality, where the self no longer exists, is not the key to happiness.

The key to him realizing he can love himself is also to realise that he needs other people to be able to define himself as an individual.

Why are we keep doing this?

Because some misguided heathens won't admit that Misato is the best girl.

But Asuka is even better.

>jobber
>better
lol

But Shinji can only come to those realizations through his complementation in instrumentality.
He rejects his fantasy dream worlds like the AU school universe or being all alone, but not complementation.

He doesn't actually reject the AU world. He, in fact, sees it as a possible world if he was not forced to be a Eva pilot.
And yes he comes to the realizations he does thanks to instrumentality, but the same is true in EoE.

End of Evangelion establishes that Instrumentality BEGAN, but Shinji ultimately rejected it. So yes, he is intrinsically connected to the outcome after the Third Impact. He just didn't choose instrumentality.

It's a good thing you're just shitposting, but I nonethless feel obligated to point out that this is the ultimate brainlet opinion.

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How am I supposed to play NGE2 without learning Japanese, dumb-dumb?