Why is she so perfect bros? Why can't real women be more like her?

Just buy a body pillow and you pretty much have her IRL. Why are reifags so stupid?

Why didn't Shinji fuck her or Asuka?

Retard

cope

Shinji subconsciously sibling-zones Rei.

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What is he gonna fuck them with?

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Ok,Satan

Shinji's a late-bloomer, isn't he? I feel like half the shit he deals with is him going at teenage issues from an adolescent state of mind/body.
I almost wonder if Asuka's bed was the first time he jerked it.

>Why can't real women be barely human beings with almost no personality or capacity to make any real decisions by their own?
Gee user, I hope your apathetic stare into the distance while listening to your The Smiths mixtape is working for you

He's a grower, not a shower

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When are we going to have a remake or spinoff where he does repeatedly?

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Just show what happens after EoE

...powerful

What happens after EoE?

My boi Shinji is a non-circumcised grower.

That doesn't involve Shinji entering Rei's apartment while she's changing for a chance of sex.

asuka is fucking crazy, rei is genetically his mom and mentally a 600 ft tall, million+ year old alien, kaworu essentially killed several billion people during 2nd impact, and shinji has literal autism.

no one needs to be fucking around here

rebuild of evengelion happens after EoE. the end of EoE is essentially the state of the earth 3.5 billion years ago; presumably rebuild happens 3.5 billion years later.

Kaworu probably gave him a hand job in the bath, let's not kid ourselves

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Shinji finishes crying and rapes Asuka on the beach

How do you come to this conclusion?

>implying she hasn't been wanting it since the wall of Jericho

That makes no sense.

Not to mention in 1 billion years the Sun's natural expansion would heat up Earth enough to kill everything on the planet.

>implying Asuka wouldn't be the one who has finally has enough and rapes Shinji

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He did by jacking off to her comatose body.

ever wonder what that red stuff on the moon is in rebuild?

>Not to mention in 1 billion years the Sun's natural expansion would heat up Earth enough to kill everything on the planet.

take it up with anno, and there are plenty of clues in rebuild to support this hypothesis

>everything on earth will be dead in 1 billion years
>because everything dies life ultimately has no purpose
Why even live?

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Ill take what is projection fro 500 bob.

i guess you need to have your soul placed in an eva with an s2 engine to be satisfied

Wow the doujins lied to me

Its this train of thought that leads you to becoming a Yui.
Don't be a Yui.

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take it back

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I want to drink milk from Yui's boobs.

When did Asuka become the more popular girl here? I heard Rei used to get brought up so much here they wordfiltered her name.

Probably when anons grew into adults and left their angsty teenage phase behind

when moot posted her as his waifu

I never understood why people liked him.

Who did what?

all the girls in evangelion are shit aside from that head of the class bitch and the girl operating the whateverthefuck in NERV that dissolved after the image of the professor bitch touched her. seriously i expected to like at least one of the main whores coming into the series, you guys have shit taste

People like sakura even though she sucks. Asuka is basically sakura. Beta males cling to bitches to feel more alpha.

When zoomers started infesting this place
Her vapid, annoying personality must remind them of their fortnight streamers

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does anyone have a gallery of canon tits in Eva, really lookin for the full screen shot of Rei's tits in eoe thanks lol

But what do you like about her so much? She literally has no personality. Is that what you like?

t. Beta male

Zoomers and otakus are all locked in their rooms and living in their heads. They couldn't imagine interacting with another actual person so they just wish they had a soulless empty husk of a body to fuck.

That'n thar we call dagger chin round these parts.

You may not like it, but this user is right

I came her yesterday to discuss this series after finishing it, and was told to go watch EoE before trying to talk. Im very thankful for the suggestion random user. I’m truthfully just sad I never got around to watching this earlier, because it’s inspired me in a way I couldn’t have guessed

She's a great character, but she's not perfect.

That scene with Rei was supposed to be incredibly unsexy due to her lack of emotion and squalid apartment

It's never been more clear that the comic was actually written by disgusting neckbeards

There is a way to make girls like rei but it's a secret.

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Women with autism exist user.

Anime ruined females for me
nobody acts like any anime character
humans are disgusting

>Women with autism exist user.
no there are not

tell me please

anno is a retarded hack
>dude just go be a normalfag lmao

Retard

Lobotomy

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I know. So sad.

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Because she's two dimensional.
And real ones are one dimensional.

retard

>he doesn't know

unironically have sex

I want to kiss Rei's feet.

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>Pale
No, perfect girls are brown.
I want a smart brown girl like Anthy.

Youre right. I am a hologram.

You see, user, looks are not everything. Some people like her for her lack of a personality.
But, yeah, I personally don't get it either.

No, but you are a tranny.

T-tranny you say?

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NERV this
youtube.com/watch?v=moAe37ce4Ww

So, did Asuka and Shinji fugged?

I think it's out of the hope that they can help her grow as a person or find someone on equal footing as them to help them with their problems.

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So you're saying Reifags are autists

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Post EoE

At least he had instrumentality sex with both of them.

It's because she can be cute without having to cheat or flirt with other guys and also isn't stupid.

Its likely many of them are. It might also be because she is less likely to cheat on you than someone with lots of friends.

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>without having to cheat or flirt with other guys
>she is less likely to cheat on you
Did you have some traumatic experience with that in your past or why are you so obsessed with being cheat on?
Most women won't just cheat on you, you know? And not only those without friends either. Most importantly, that trait should not be the deciding factor in what makes you fall in love with someone.

But I do agree that Rei most likely appeals to extreme introverts and actual autists, simply because she does not have much of a personality to intrude into your private space with. It's a bit like having fish for pets.

I hope, you've read the manga. Otherwise you couldn't enjoy this character completely.

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>I hope, you've read the manga.
Wasn't that one written by an autistic Reifag who forced in a lot of his own headcanon? Basically fan fiction? (Not that Evangelion as a whole wasn't Anno's fanfiction to himself ...)

Anyway, read this manga and you'll forget about the anime. It's so well written that the animEva no longer exists in my mind.

Did they? Where can I find that?

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>Wasn't that one written by an autistic Reifag who forced in a lot of his own headcanon? Basically fan fiction?
...No?

Sadamoto is a Kaworufag.
It is just that he is such an utterly stupid writer that he wrote the worst incarnation of Kaworu in existence

Ok where specifically is this from?

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EoE 1:00:30

Rei is autistic
Asuka is a bitch
Misato is a pedophile
Ritsuko is a megabitch
The point is that these characters are supposed to be realistic, and that comes with flaws
None of them are supposed to be waifuable
Except Hikari but she barely had screentime so she might be fucked up idk

christ, this is cringe and sad how someone can miss the point entirely

>None of them are supposed to be waifuable
Because you can't love "realistic" characters/people with weaknesses? You habe a strange definition of that. People do "waifu" those characters because they are flawed.

>Why can't more girls be emotionally damaged shells?

So it's not post EoE it's during EoE

>that trait should not be the deciding factor in what makes you fall in love with someone.
No but it should definitely be one of them, one of the nicest things about a romantic relationship
would be intimacy. Keep in mind Rei isn't autistic and can grow a personality like anyone else, only it would be free of degeneracy.
I think Rei is cute because of the way she looks and if you gave her Asuka's personality i wouldn't change my mind.

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those faces are really beautiful

Watch more than 6 episodes before commenting on shit you don't know about OP

considering the stylistic depiction, that actually seems to be an average, proportional sized organ. I mean seriously, what are people expecting? It's not hentai, the focus isn't supposed to be shinji's cock. So they draw a non-decript, simplified shape

>can grow a personality like anyone else, only it would be free of degeneracy.
That's just you projecting your hopes onto her. If she did develop a personality, how could you be sure she wouldn't also develop less desirable traits?

>I think Rei is cute because of the way she looks and if you gave her Asuka's personality i wouldn't change my mind.
But that's pretty much the definition of superficiality. Doesn't personality matter to you at all? We all love (or, in theory, hate) Asuka and Misato for their personalities, first and foremost. There are many cute redheads, but people go for Asuka specifically because of her personality.

If Rei is "your type" and personality doesn't matter, what stops you from going for some other girl of the same "type". Short blue(ish) hair, cuteish and dressed plainly/traditionally. What about Sailor Moon's Mizuno Ami, for example? Or Aria's Aika? Eureka Seven?

KEK

I didn't read the manga or most of this thread, but I want to know. Does shinji fuck any of them in the mangas?

>in the mangas
What is man gas?

>Keep in mind Rei isn't autistic and can grow a personality like anyone else, only it would be free of degeneracy.
How do you know?
Once Rei discovers her sexuality, after a lifetime where she was mainly suppressed from any positive sensual stimuli, she will become addicted to the carnal pleasure and go full degenerate.

fuck off Mogudan

Happy to see a lot of people recognizing the superiority of Asuka.

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Who needs a stupid Shinji anyway?

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But the question is which pairing is better...

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Asuka deserves better than any of them!

I think Mari is a good choice since she'll just cut through the bullshit and bang Asuka anyway.
Rei cuts through the bullshit too but lacks initiative.

>everything in the modern world is about non-procreational sex
Sums up the Jewish subversion

Reminder that Rei took into consideration that Toji was inside 03 and didn't want at it because of him.
Rei cares.

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>didn't want to shoot
Is what I mean.

Asuka needs someone who really cares about her as a person. Neither of them can give her that (including Shinji, though he might come to that state, depending on how you interpret the ending(s)).

More like he projected his latent homosexuality onto Kaworu.

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B-but user, don't you know sex solves everything! That's what everyone around me is telling me! Have sex, user.

Nobody wanted to attack Toji (other than Gendo), Asuka even tried to tell Shinji who was in there since everyone else felt like dropping the ball with that.

>tfw Asuka thought Shinji knew his friend was the pilot and if she knew otherwise would have told Shinji immediately
Best girl.

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Both, with Asuka stuck with a (mostly) unwanted lesbian harem

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best eva feet?

She literally refused to tell him who it was after knowing he didn't know

Rei is best girl again then.

I don't recall Asuka and Shinji interacting prior to being in their Evas.
When Shinji asks who is in it, Asuka gets surprised he doesn't know and tries to say it - but because the plot dictates Shinji not know for forced drama, Asuka gets one shotted off screen somehow.
And then it quickly beats Rei by infecting her.

But then for some reason Bardiel decides instead of quickly beating Shinji like it did to Asuka/Rei, it just chokes him VERY SLOWLY to the point he can have a full extended conversation with Gendo while its doing it. Was one of the dumber angel fights.

Rewatch the episode, Asuka and Shinji have a conversation earlier in the episode at home while Kaji is staying over.
Shinji asks Asuka who the pilot is, she seems shocked he didn't know but still refuses to tell him who it is

>How could you be sure she wouldn't also develop less desirable traits?
Of course she is gonna grow some undesirable traits, i don't expect to ever get a flawless relationship, but an undesirable trait can be many things and it doesn't have to be degeneracy.
>But that's pretty much the definition of superficiality. Doesn't personality matter to you at all?
I wasn't trying to imply that Asukas personality by itself was bad, i just can't stand how ugly she looks along with it. If Rei with her cute had Asukas personality, that would be twice as hot.
Because Autism is not that common and it seems unlikely she would have it, she is that way because of how she was raised.
Im unsure what you mean by "discover" isn't attraction and lust something everyone has at all times? If she doesn't feel that way already it would seem unlikely to me. There are women who are not degenerate you know?

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>an undesirable trait can be many things and it doesn't have to be degeneracy.
Sure, but how can you know beforehand that that's not exactly the one trait you will get? You have no way of excluding that possibility beforehand.

>i just can't stand how ugly she looks along with it
>Rei with her cute
Again, you're only arguing appearances and personality seems secondary to you. That is quite a bit shallow.

What do they all see in Shinji? He's shit.

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It's literally only because he's the MC

This is why they should have just made Shinji a girl as originally thought.
Skip the waifu pairing crap of the actual popular characters orbiting the MC, just have MC be the waifu.

If Shinji was a girl there wouldn't be any teasing with Asuka/Shinji or Rei/Shinji

Everyone would just be shipping Kaworu and Shinji because it's hetero

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He's moe.

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Yeah, but see they make Kaworu a girl too. And she'd be super hot and still shipped with girl Shinji

They are fucked in the head, thats why. All three of them.

Kaworu seems okay.

He's a suicidal psycho

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He is gay.

which sakura are you talking about here?

Usually it's the Naruto one called a bitch a lot, right?

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You must have been just like Shinji then, just smiling and nodding along as Kaworu goes on about the tragedies of the human condition and shit.

Personally I think that she looks hilariously ugly in OP's pic but I would still smash.

He's right, tho.

>but how can you know beforehand that that's not exactly the one trait you will get?
Whenever i have to contemplate whether i should enter into a relationship i can never exclude the possibility that it will be a bad one, but unless i sense any red flags, that's not a very good argument for staying single.
>Again, you're only arguing appearances and personality seems secondary to you.
Call it what you want but most consider appearance primary and personality secondary, and how people perceive your personality is also influenced by how attractive you are.
Appearance wise, i do not find Asuka remotely attractive which paired with her personality doesn't help either. A smug attitude is only sexy when paired with a nice appearance.

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>women
>personality
The only thing separating Rei from a real woman is that she's a pleasant kind of shallow rather than "I will fuck Tyrone today" of real women.

Kaworu sees Shinji's insecurities, Rei sees the genetic relation, Asuka sees a boy to practice with. I thought, you all had watched the series.

>rei is genetically his mom and mentally a 600 ft tall, million+ year old alien
hot

Rei also went out of her way and followed Toji all the way up to the school roof to awkwardly comfort him beforehand.

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I see you like your women nicely victimised, objectified and depersonalized eh OP?

Rei wanted the Toji dick

Why did they replace Toji for glasses tits?

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Toji doesn't sell merch

Not with that attitude.

What kind of gay nigger faggot do you have to be to buy mari merc?

>searches him out even though they don't even hang out together
>uses a friendly "Suzukara-kun" moniker
>they manage to have a little heart to heart
Meanwhile she never even as much as refers to Asuka by her name. This just goes to show how cosmically unapproachable Asuka is.

Shinji and Mari don't either

Rei/Asuka/Kaworu are the only true marketing sluts

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You have to be dead inside autobot operating on autopilot programmed to collect anime waifus.

She's not even that popular.

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The girls got sick of her the first day she arrived. That's why she had no friends and Hikari was forced to be friendly to her as the class president.

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>ginger
>G*rman
Asuka is shit even despite the personality.

I own a Mari figma. I wanted to own a figma of some kind and hers was cheap, has the cockpit stand too.

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They were jealous, and Hikari was the only person Asuka could respect.

Why would you waste your money on shit?

Hikari was the only one Asuka could go to because she had no other friends.
And even Hikari didn't give much of a shit about her, she wouldn't even hug her when she was crying.

They probably still wanted to up their chances of selling some merch, it's just that the character they came up with turned out to be too unappealing to make a big difference.

sauce

They could have tried harder.

Sadamoto lost his touch. All of his recent character designs are drab.

Because I wanted it. I regret nothing.

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I remember her beta design being better, but I can't find it.

Rei is just a pleb version of this superhuman.

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I love rei

>tumblr.jpg

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I saw that as Hikari, being a kid herself, having no idea how to handle Asuka's issues.
So she mistakenly thinks the best thing she can do is allow Asuka to do whatever she wants, enabling her to laze around in her room and not go to school.

because your standards are unrealistic

Some people don't appreciate a shameless fanservice girl's contrast to the main 2 girls.
I mean, what did we have before, old and busted Misato?

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I reserve my judgement whether it was a good or bad thing that Toji was replaced as an Eva pilot after I've seen 4.0 based on two basic criteria: is his adult design hot and did he get to smash Hikari.

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>protecc this smile

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You need to not be a normalfag

And not a attention whore

They never fucked, that's an insteumentality dream sequence. They probably did after the credits rolled tho

Agreed. Absolutely based

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I see you too are a man of culture.

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That Shinji won't survive.

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Just transform him into another Asuka then!

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>ywn have an Asuka assert herself on you and transform you into her double
>and then fight constantly because you're Asuka

Which only highlights that the kids are all equivalent to the people who are locked in closets until they're 12. For being aware the kids are having it rough with her running out and bumming off a friend, is it that hard to run them through counseling or a mentor program?

>Damn bitch, you live like this?

Reifags BTFO’d

>145cm
>rougly 35kg

And what sucks is when it seemed like Rei was about to break out of her shell and develop a personality, she dies.

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On a scale from 1 to Asuka, how strangle-able is Rei?

Can someone tell me why Gendo and SEELE were in conflict? Gendo wanted Instrumentality to reunite with Yui, and SEELE also wanted Instrumentality so why where they fighting?

There is a gelbooru image of that.

At least Asuka x2, got a mom and daughter in on it

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Mari shoved between the OG MCs ike she has a place there is the fakest shit in this entire franchise.

they are good but they are not better than Asuka

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Impressive level of detail, especially for the rightmost one. (Not sure which character it's supposed to be though.)

Why is it that reifags only ever use fan art? Is it cause In the show she’s a no emotions uncanny valley creepy looking bitch? Probably.

Pretty sure that is official art for the Rebuilds

huh that's not fanart, that's from Sadamoto.

Mmmm Asuka's feet are sexy

you right

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gendo wanted a different type of instrumentality, i guess. it's never explained in the show.

-Asuka
Unless she's into that sort of stuff.

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ASSuka

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>sadamato
>not fan art

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Misato is a fucking slut with daddy issues

Kaworu said it in the episode, he found Shinji very empathetic. Rei may have liked him because he was one of the only people to be nice to her, and also potentially due to her having Yui’s genes. Asuka is very unclear. One theory is that she just likes dominating beta males. Another is that she genuinely loves Shinji for similar reasons as Rei, but didn’t want to admit it until they were the only two humans left. The one I think is most true is that Asuka saw Shinji as a practice boyfriend or close platonic friend, but after seeing inside of his head realized that he suffered from many of the same problems as her and was one of the few people able to relate to her.

Damn, Kaworu is hung like a Ken doll.

Asuka just wanted Shinji to show genuine affection and compassion for her. Obviously, as a result of her coping mechanism she pushes him away at times and makes advances on him that are deniable (I was only kissing you because I was bored!). In reality, she is just too scared to admit to herself that she wants somebody to rely upon since it would mean being put in a vulnerable position where she can get hurt by others, the Hedgehog's Dilemma, just like her mother hurt her when she was a child. So to cope, she tragically puts on a mask where she thinks she is 'better' than others and doesn't need to rely on anybody but herself to never be put in this situation again. But obviously, it's just a mask and we see her break down when she doesn't get the help she wants from Shinji in her multiple attempts.

Now, as to why she latched onto Shinji for this? I think it's something to do with him being one of her only peers that she can relate to in some way. They are both pilots, they both have the same fear of intimacy and rejection, Shinji cooks for her like a mother, etc. They also both go through the same trials and tribulations together by fighting the Angels and working as a team up until the failed kiss in Episode 15, which is also where the tonal shift of Evangelion begins. Honestly, their relationship is one of the hardest to examine out of all of the ones in the show.

I also thought it was cool how much of Kaji/Misato's relationship was paralleled with Asuka/Shinji's relationship via the cinematography.

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Seele's way wouldn't have a Yui or Gendo. Seele wanted all individual identities dissolved for material to create a singular, immortal being. Gendo wanted Yui preserved, wanted to be near Yui, and also wanted to be God because he's kind of fucked up and unable to trust he'd be welcome anywhere he couldn't force to take him.

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Why does Anno like created a white haired love interest for the MC only to kill him off in the same episode he's introduced?

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shinji is a FOOL for not diving tongue first into those peds

i think if you had to point to a specific moment that made her pay more real attention to shinji, whether you think her interest is romantic, sexual, just self-serving, or (perhaps more true to the series' themes) a mixture of the three, it would be ep 9. it's the first time in the series her emotional armor really cracks, and it does so in a pretty major way, and shinji going after her (somewhat reluctantly, although she doesn't know that) makes a big impression and noticeably chances the way she treats him. she doesn't do a 180 with her tone or defensive measures or anything but her attitude is exclusively dismissive beforehand, even after seeing him take charge when fighting gaghiel, and afterwards come all her awkward veiled attempts to get closer.

though also i think with them it's not just one moment, since the pressures and domesticality of living together for a few months plays a part too for sure

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He's a hack

But definitely that is the point where she starts taking that training seriously and tries to match to Shinji, or allows Shinji to match to her, if only to rub it in the faces of Misato and that stuck-up First. Even that's a big deal in light of Asuka's social isolation and childhood determination to never rely on anyone for anything.

for sure, i'm just saying the emotional connection starts actually forming there too

fuck off Yea Forums

soul

soulless

>miss the point
I guess you could say it's a Critical Miss

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She is perfect to you because your fetish is the idea of a woman who is subservient and faithful, and hides her own desires behind a layer of non exposure to the real world. It makes you feel needed. Wanted.

Real women can’t compete because there is no way a human can compete with a women specifically designed to appeal to you base needs as a man.

Feel free to ask for elaboration.

Death and Rebirth smile is beautiful.

Rebuild smile is the soulless one.

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Yikes indeed

Hikari also already notices this in Episode 9 when she yells at Shinji to go apologize to her when she goes crying. As you said, whether it's romantic, sexual, self serving or all 3, she picks up on it instantly.

Not to mention Toji calling them a married couple because of the way they fight and Hikari again in pic related

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All Reis are beautiful.

>Soryu

As if anno didn't do the same shit
sadamoto just likes tsundere boys and anno likes shojo prince boys

I don't understand Death & Rebirth, is anything different than the show that wasn't added in later?

Why of course. They're the best.

Shots remade. What MATTERS was added in DC.

Death is a recap in preparation for Rebirth (which would later become EoE). Includes a few extra scenes but all of them were added later in the Director's Cut versions of episodes 21-24.

it's not a narrative film

Name something wrong with a vulnerable, sexy woman.

The japs are a bung of fucking pedophile incest mongers.

Rei is Shinji’s mom. Dude wants to bang his mom clone

in retrospect misato really comes out looking bad from that scene, without how willing she is to knowingly push her buttons

Thanks. I'm gonna watch it tonight for shits and giggles. I've seen Eva countless times but never bothered with D&R

its honestly one of my favorites, but you gotta take it for what it is. it's more about the feeling and the atmosphere than even the straight plot recap, since it jumps around and intercuts scenes out of sequence in a way that makes them meaningless if the audience isn't already familiar with eva inside & out. but, as a piece of filmmaking and aesthetic film it's one of anno's most underrated imho

Have fun with the cellos ;)

Nothing wrong with the woman but something definitely wrong with a man who goes for that type. See.

Those are both me. Hard disagree. The Master -> Slave relationship is the natural Male/Female dichotomy and if a man needs the type of woman that facilitates that relationship easily it is completely natural. The japanese understand this instinctively as a feminine people. If you like Rei there is nothing wrong with you. You are a human.

Interesting. I think EoE, Shiki-Jitsu, and later Shin Gojira have proven Anno does an especially bang-up job when restricted to the length of a film

There are at least a couple really ambiguous suggestions that don't appear anywhere else.

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Tsurumaki adds a lot of retarded scenes that are never implied/mentioned in anything again

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Anno didn't have a hand in D&R iirc, it was all Tsurumaki.

he is definitely listed as a director

Every single character in Evangelion has daddy issues. The entire show is about daddy issues.

>"This truly has been a Neon Genesis Evangelion."
Such a powerful quote from that anime...

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Asuka and Ritsuko are more mommy issues, though dad didn't help each of them (if Ritsuko even had a present dad at any point)

asuka has some daddy issues too, though not as much

she was literally made in a tube.

you underestimate how much disdain people on here can have for so called "realism"

Asuka's father probably solidified the idea in her that she can't/shouldn't rely on men because they'll just end up leaving her

definitely, along with her stepmother they solidified all the ideas and ways of thinking that kyoko's insanity and suicide planted. you've gotta imagine that if either of them cared at all she'd have turned out way more healthy

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Asuka's fine as she is!

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>shikinami

>wut did he mean by this post

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I don't think it was specifically men. Her mother and stepmother would have done the same for women. She didn't trust anybody because all she knew was rejection. That's why she always acts so abrasive and above others.
It's all a sad attempt to convince herself she's better than others and so needs nobody else. In reality she's just a scared girl afraid of rejection and so pushes others away with this superior facade to never have to be in that vulnerable position again.
Until she meets Shinji that is. And him being to meek to reciprocate her advances makes her think he's rejecting her again like everybody else. Not to mention his piloting skills destroying her only pillar of self worth and his relationship with Rei making her jealous that she may lose Shinji to what she perceives is a literal doll.

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1. What does any of what you just wrote have to do with my post
2. She doesn't act abrasive towards Kaji and Rei. She's actually pretty cool around Misato, too. And she's always trying to act goody goody with the girls/boys at school. At least in the beginning.
Cutting down her character like that is completely ignoring the several episodes where she acts friendly around Shinji and Rei, too. It's only later when it all comes tumbling down where she says she despises everyone.

>towards Kaji and Rei
Meant Kaji and Hikari

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she's honestly not even that abrasive towards rei until she really starts her downward spiral

Fuck off Asuka

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Yeah, the only characters she's consistently a bitch to are Shinji/Toji/Kensuke
But that's typically how women act towards beta males.

Would Soryu be able to tolerate Mari or get along with her?

She was ok with Misato groping her titties, so I'd assume so

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Due to the law of all anime characters being bi, I'm sure Mari's persistence would win out.

This is during instrumentality, they did not fuck.

for a while, but i think it would eventually explode. she likes to push her buttons and soryu is more of a ticking time bomb on that front

Shh, let the Asukashippers have this one. They don't have anything else.

Like Shinji though, isn't Asuka ultimately just weak to someone showing her affection?

SEELE wasn't sure what Gendo would do when he was calling the shots. Rei only initiated the great Tanging because Shinji told her to.

This is what Rei is supposed to look like in profile
Still best girl desu

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the key difference i think is that shinji is able to openly want and seek affection whereas asuka has got so much of her sense of worth tied up in her denial of those desires and needs

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just finished watching Death(True). I assume Rebirth is a waste of time since it's just an unfinished half of EoE. Surprised at how much I like it. It's kind of dishonest to call it a recap, it's more of a character study you could watch in preparation for 25-26 and EoE. It kind of made me wonder if there would be a way to edit them all together into one 3 1/2 hour feature. Something like
Death(True)
ep25 -> ep25'
ep26 -> ep26'
Not sure if splitting EoE in two like that would fuck with the pacing or not, but they're already split like 2 episodes.

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I was just looking for an excuse to talk about the characters desu. I see your point though.
Abrasive wasnt the right word. Maybe what I was trying to get at is she always tries to maintain a stubborn air of superiority around her peers and has a hard time truly opening up to others and even herself. She doesnt shy away from friendship but is also scared of getting too close and feeling pain, hence the deniable attempts with Shinji if things didn't work out. Hikari breaks this rule a bit but I dont really remember how intimate Asuka and Hikari were together besides being friends. Shinji 'rejecting' her after her awkward, deniable attempts was the catalyst for her downward spiral, followed by being overtaken as the ace pilot.

Convincing herself she is an adult that doesn't need to rely on others for emotional support is a large part of her character, although obviously a lie she tells herself.

Watching 25/26 and EoE like that makes no sense.
Like even if you believe in the idea that they are concurrent (I don't), 25/26 would still be something in the middle of 26'

Its best to just watch 25/26 and EoE separately instead of trying to mash them together.

pigfat r34 go homu

using death as a prelude to eoe might actually flow pretty well, but i really don't think there's an elegant way to jam the tv ending in there too. it's better standing alone anyway, the ending especially, it's all so stark and striking that doing anything else during or after would take away alot

I think you have a warped perception of the show and the characters and should rewatch.

It was just an idea. But you're probably right. You wouldn't be able to fit the TV ending specifically between much of anything while making any sort of sense, unless you actually cut and reordered things in which case you'd just be disrespecting the directorial decisions made in each independent of one another. 1-24, Death(True), 25-26, EoE, is the smartest way to go about it if you wanted to include it.

psst
teh rei

Because she's not Asuka

Because among other things Evangelion is a harem anime and Toji was always meant to be just a friend.

Leaving the waifuwar aside for a while, both of them, and Shinji and Touji as well, are just kids in a situation way over their heads doing the best they can.
Of course both girls care. Rei might be distant and Asuka might be rude, but that doesn't mean they'd want someone they shared many moments with (even if they weren't best friends) to die.

Which smile was better? Same scene, but this one is from Death(true)2

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What do you disagree with

based

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That user is pretty much spot on, what are you talking about?

Who is she?

Death>Original>Rebuild

ASUKA A SLUT

A SLUT

Literal pink pig on all fours, with the face of a horse.

Don't be mean. Mari is sexy too.

*blocks your path

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The most important character in the entire series.

Mari exists in order for the movies to have toilet breaks. TV shows have commercial breaks that you can skip to go to the loo and theatrical editions have Mari scenes.

Hope they will says Shinji in the Rebuild lore is a clone of Gendo with the soul of the Adam transformed into Eva 01.
they could make a perfect symbolic couple with him and Rei, practicing the forbidden union at the end of 2.0

no wonders Shikinami was not important.

Makes sense to Shinji's ability to open Guf, shown only in him and at Second Impact, but it would be a pretty dumb and plain retcon. Rebuild Shinji is already established with a pretty natural sounding birth to parents who didn't know what he'd be and apparently hadn't married yet if they weren't sure about the surname.

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Indeed Rei is goddess tier.
I'm not even going to talk down other girls from the show who are quite lovable, even the mental basket case. But Rei is just something else.

well it's established in the Rebuild continuity that Gendo is called Gendo Ikari and Yui is Yui Ayanami.

maybe Rei and Shinji are two project they decided to create at the same time and were still not sure.
>Rei is an angel hybrid with Lilith DNA and Soul
>Shinji is pure human but with non-human soul of Adam.

Interesting. I had wondered why they changed Yui's name and this could make sense. Oh, and also remove them from the shows continuity because they suck ass. Thatd be nice too

>Shinji is pure human but with non-human soul of Adam.
Then who is Kaworu in Rebuild continuity?

Kaworu is an hybrid with the soul and DNA of the Adam who turned to be Eva mk06.
His body could be based on Fuyutsuki or Gendo.

Mari has no meaningful or direct interactions with Shinji whatsoever. There is no harem potential in here. Why not have reverse harem with Shinji/Kaworu/Toji instead? Didn't you know fujobux prints money?

Rei would literally kys if she was told to
pic rel is the patrician choice

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>likes a dumb jock
Nah.

If you want to rank the girls based on their taste in men then Asuka and Rei would be dead last.

>Toji
>dumb jock

Don't talk shit about the biggest bro in the series. Asuka and Rei fall for a housebroken incel with asbergers.

There's no accounting for taste, but all she says is "kindness", so I kinda thought it was that they both had imoutos and she felt for how messed up he was about what happened to his.

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Maybe I was primed by Toji's sister being his motivation there and then Hikari also talking about her sisters to approach Toji.

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>the biggest bro in the series
A retarded bully who would probably be mean with Shinji even if he had never hurt his sister.

>Rei
>Perfect
You disappoint me OP

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That's interesting. And then he asks her to fill his role for his sister when he's hospitalized himself. Younger siblings definitely seem like a connective thread between the two.

>t. virgin

Best girl rollin through

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If you have troubles parsing even Toji's character then you have no business being in an Eva thread, brainlet.

The only sluts in Evangelion are Ritsuko and her mom. (the old hag).
Every other girl is perfect in her own way.

Fuck you. Rei is cute AND sexy when she wants to be.

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>Rei is cute AND sexy when she wants to be.
Why doesn't she want to be, user?

He would have but Ritsuko redpilled him on her creation and he wanted nothing to do with her after that.

>Asuka hanging out with shinji
>Clothed Rei Grope
>The Piano Scene that wasn't in the show at all
>DURR WHY DON DEY FUCK, WHY ISN'T THERE ANY SEX?

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>tfwywn fuck emaciated suicidal Asuka

Came to post this
Ironic that the anime is about escapism

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Isn’t Instrumentality like everyone having sex with everyone else at once?

Its more like everyone being one and masturbating non stop.

Oh shit I didn't catch that in my first viewing
Asukas a fuckin creep dude, she gets off on emotional abuse

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>Keel gets tanged without ever seeing Rei
>because he has absolutely no need for something to lower his guard, he actually wants instrumentality to happen after all
Mind blown.

He sees everything proceeding as he'd meant it to instead of being alarmed that Rei just bombed in and took over.

Nah, she's just under his desk...

It would make sense why he was so full of fucking estrogen

I lost to this thanks for the kek

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I don't think he actually cares that it's not actually his version of Instrumentality. Just being tanged is good enough for him.

What happens to the souls behind the door of guf?

Looks more like a memory than a dream metaphor
But it's ambiguous I'll give you that

There is 0% chance it is a memory

What makes you think so

Why is this homosexual angel so smug? And how can he (and Rei) generate the strongest AT Field in the series without an S2 Engine?

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I guess cause he's got the soul of Adam, the daddy of all S2 engines?

can somebody explain to me why this scene isn't clinically braindead?

>is told about adam being grafted onto gendo
>is still fucking shocked that it's lilith in terminal dogma and not adam

fucking hate the director's cut episodes just because of this

Kaworu's just a brainlet.

Kaworu was bored and was zoning out.

>toji
>bully
how monumentally stupid do you have to be to take a characterization as simple as toji's and draw this conclusion from it?

I just can't find the will to defend her every single thread anymore. If you are so viscously shitting on her and people who like her, then it's clear you've already have made up your mind and nothing will change that, and you'll be back in the next thread, the thread after it, and so on for another 23 years no matter what.

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I mean, Asuka is my #1 waifu, but I'd still take that big onahole.

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The only reason Toji has ever acted violently against Shinji was because he didn't know how to deal with anger about his sister being hurt. Young teenager emotional intelligence is not so great so he acted out haphazardly on his feelings. He's even explaining it to Shinji the very moment he does this precisely because he DIDN'T want to come off as a bully, but since Shinji told him he didn't pilot Eva out of his own volition it immediately sparked regret.

Rei is great and all, but have you heard about Asuka, the best girl in Evangelion?

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She'd probably do the same thing she did in EoE to Gendo's hand if anyone other than her Ikari-kun tried something like that.

>Rei
>onahole
Only brainlets define a character based on their initial stage while disregarding their whole character journey. The goal of Rei's character arc was her regaining agency, which she achieved so hard NPCs like Asuka could never compete.

Asuka's a good character too. Even thought I made my post about Rei, it really applies to all of the main cast. I feel like people who shit on Shinji for being a pussy, Asuka for being a mentally unstable bitch, Misato being an alcoholic whore, or Rei being doll completely missed the point and are not really worth the time since they'll always be like that. We've had these discussions for decades, they'll never lose their hate-boners. They've made up their minds years ago, and enjoy the shitposting.

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I guess the appeal about her is that she is discovering emotions for the first time, and also short hair is best.

Do you think she offered Toji her virginity before he left Tokyo3? My opinion on her as the best girl hinges on her doing so.

I am bullying. A kuudere is fine too (like C.C.)

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Put me in le ebin screencap

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B&R

She practiced basketball to impress him and ended up so much better at it that she lost respect for him.

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>retards calling Rei a doll
It's not only untrue by the end of the series, it's already false in episode 14, and likely from the start. None of the other girls would ever give such a monologue. In fact it's quite unrealistic for a woman to have this kind of thoughts.
It's like you are unable to distinguish someone being voluntarily obedient and someone not existing.

literally a soulless meatsack lmao

a310-chan is so moe

>making sure your man's throws fall in the basket
She's being a model wife on this pic.

The funny thing is that the doll thing comes from Asuka calling her that, and she only does it because of her own insecurities.

>It's just my duty as class representative!
will also be her line when she gives him any sexual favors

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>Toji missing one leg pretty much means Hikari's gonna have to do all the work herself
I sure hope she's got what it takes

That's not true at all. The only position you can't really do in this situation is the standing one obviously. Everything else is fair game as long as the guy has good core muscle strength.

Rei did take the insult to heart though, as shown in ep 25 when Asuka shouts it again at Rei, and since she chooses to borrow the language when telling Gendo she is turning against him in EoE.
I mean if you met a girl like Rei in real life and barely new her story, what else would you call her?

Please don't try to ruin my adorable mental image of Hikari giving her 110% to please him

It hurts Rei because that is how she views herself. But if there is one thing Eva is about it is not to be so hard on yourself.
Rei was never a doll, and her story was to realise that.

The fact she takes it at heart demonstrate she is not the unthinking, unfeeling husk Asuka called her.

who's that on the left?

You think they don't have good robotic limbs in a universe with evas?

>he doesn't know
Keep your NGE innocence and never watch the rebuilds.

I was just trying to point out that making the best out of any situation is a real virtue.
youtube.com/watch?v=UTrb6i7gJAk

Kaworu has really pretty eyelashes

No homo

Take this gif of minimalistically sad Shinji.

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The gradual simplification of the drawing over the instrumentality process will never stop being absolute kinography.

Toji is implied not to have a prosthetic in some deleted material. Which makes me wonder how did NERV get away with not taking responsibility. Though maybe it's because he's still growing and his wound is too fresh.

>No homo
I thought everything related to Kaworu is homo, in fact just saying "Kaworu" makes people a bit gayer.

I'm sure they don't, because all that science is crazy classified and kept in Nerv. Nothing gets shared and trickles into other applications outside of an Anima or a Rebuild. Even Jet Alone was about a decade behind the mechanical limbs some of the pre-Unit 00s are seen to have, and JHCI wasn't making any neural interface.

He signed the papers. UN immunity.

>He signed the papers. UN immunity.
Is that how it is? Don't the pilots have some health insurance from trauma?

Bruh we don't even know if the pilots get paid in the first place.

It's all clarified here.

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They obviously aren't, but that's another thing from being left completely on their own once something goes wrong.

Honestly? I think it's just Asukafags being the same as their waifu. Desperate to make her out to be the superior choice, which they can't do without bringing Rei down and reducing her to something she's not. They're also really obnoxious, again, just like their waifu. Funniest thing is that for all the crap you hear about Shikanami, Asuka did not have this loud of a following when she was just Soryu.

The best way to determine best girl is how the other characters in the show perceive them:
Everyone is miserable around Asuka.
Everyone is calm and happy around Rei.

>Everyone is calm and happy around Rei.
Everybody is calm and happy around an indoor fountain. So, congrats, we have just found our "best gril", Fountain-chan.

Only literal autists would ever prefer company without any potential for conflict around them. In fact, most healthy human beings would go crazy if they kept to this kind of unconfrontational company, as an active mind wants to excercise its competitive capacity with another human being.

Yes, Asuka is a bit extreme. But she keeps you entertained, intellectually honest and constantly "on your feet" (mentally speaking). Having her around is a bit of a challenge, but very rewarding. Having Rei around is ... well, like a fountain. Calming, nice ... but ... dull, boring and tiring.

Ok, so by your logic we should all get with feminist sjw tumblrites because they'll be a 'challenge' as opposed to more quiet, submissive girls.

And they'll even accuse you of falsely raping them like Asuka does in the series! Totally best girl, amirite?

I think this way, only replace Rei with Misato.
Fucking hate Misato.

Oh come on, true alpha males prefers protecting a cute woman who looks weak, who keep his mouth shut, looks fertile and cook, pretty much like Rei.

Asuka is a Femdom fetish, wanting having challenge with womens is a thing for huge faggots.

>looks fertile and cook
>Rei
lol

Asuka is a clinical narcissist, she's clinically unable to form healthy relationships. Anybody who would ever decide to go into one with her is naive or a masochist.
>so much fun to have a mentally ill girlfriend!
Literal mental midget.

Was Rei Q actually soulless?
if third impact happened it mean Rei III actually had the soul of Lilith in her.
but what happened to Rei II? she's supposed to be still inside Eva 01 or Shinji's walkman.

what's the deal with Rei III in the Rebuild lore? is she evil or something?

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They already bank on fujobux with Kaworu alone, they should expand it to Toji for maximum profit.

>wanting having challenge with womens is a thing for huge faggots
Wanna know how I know you've never had a gf? Have sex

The series got crazy sexual near the end with everybody fucking or wanting to fuck, so I want to believe they too shared a few hours of passionate love making knowing their futures were so unsure. They had a few months to get close enough with Hikari nurturing him back to health with her bentos and all.

Toji is for Hikari

Make Kensuke gay

>and constantly "on your feet" (mentally speaking).

After a couple of months "on your feet" you will wish you had a Rei doll.

Toji deserves nothing less for all the shit he's been through.

Toji and Kensuke are both ugly as hell, fujos don't like them

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This is what 'male feminist' orbiters say when they date sjws,

>by your logic we should all get with feminist sjw tumblrites
No. I'm not saying you should go for extremes. I'm saying that if you had the choice between Rei and Asuka, Asuka would be the healthier choice.
Ideally, of course, you'd want a somewhat less confrontational version of Asuka, but she "works well enough": Don't forget that she has a soft, vulnerable side that provides some balance if you can get her to show it.

>true alpha males prefers protecting a cute woman who looks weak, who keep his mouth shut, looks fertile and cook, pretty much like Rei.
There's nothing "alpha" about shying away from a challenge. If you think being challenged by a woman means being dominated, you've already given up the fight before it started. That's the ultimate beta move.
Facing a challenge always means that you want to come out on top, Realizing that you sometimes have to compromise or can't outright win, that's what becoming an adult means.
(And you can protect an inwardly confrontational woman just as much from the "outside world" as you can protect a non-confrontational one.)

>Asuka is a clinical narcissist
Most people are narcisissits. The difference between clinical ones and non-clinical ones is just that the latter haven't been diagnosed.
And, hey, if you agree with her that she's perfect (but not so much her opinions), that won't even ever come up in an argument.
Just pick your battles wisely.

>After a couple of months "on your feet" you will wish you had a Rei doll.
Maybe. But the reverse is also true. You can't always just have one extreme, you need balance. Finding that might prove to be the real challenge. Better chances there with Asuka than with Rei. She'd probably give you some frames of time and space for yourself.

No, most people are not narcissists. Narcissism is a legitimate personality disorder which occurs in specific circumstances. Asuka and her background fits that model to a T. I can garantee you that living with an actual, clinical narcissist is an endless misery because that person is physiologically unable to care for your needs. Have fun feeling unloved, ignored and sometimes violated in favour of her insatiable, feeble ego.

>If you think being challenged by a woman means being dominated, you've already given up the fight before it started. That's the ultimate beta move.
If you are a man making challenge with womens make absolutely no sense, especially when your "challenge" consist in arguing with an obnoxious woman constantly on periods.

normal mens prefers calm and submissive womens.

>The difference between clinical ones and non-clinical ones is just that the latter haven't been diagnosed.
No, the difference is that the people who truly do suffer from narcissistic disorder are born assholes. Don't confuse having self-esteem or a healthy level of narcissism with the toxic shit actual narcissism is. Actual narcissists are unable to form genuine rapport with anyone, and the relationships they do form are just based on how well the other person can serve their means. They are incapable of genuinely caring for someone.

Wrong. Toji is handsome. And it's super easy to make a male chara popular with fujos, the thing is khara never intended to do that with either character because the way they are represented in Rebuilds is abhorrent.

Who the fuck even is the 6th guy? Is the Mandela effect real? Am I losing it?

>No, most people are not narcissists.
Narcisism is no monolith. It comes in grades. Asuka has shown that she has a level of empathy and cares about/for people. She has a stronger narcisistic streak than your average person, but everybody is, to some degree, a narcissist. It becomes clinical once you start to see it as a problem, not the other way around.

Girls don't agree, see the ranking I posted.
He's even lower than Gendo and the nobody bridge dudes.

>you don't get it, saints and the pure are the true NPCs and basic bitches are the interesting people
Every thread. It's all so tiresome.
Confrontation and mental illness quickly become infinitely more boring than the supposed dullness.
user can't into ataraxia. I bet you think of heaven as 'boring' too.

>everybody is, to some degree, a narcissist
There is a line between normal human psychology and literal mental disorder.

>People trying to defend Rei
>bring up submissiveness as positive trait
You don't understand Rei at all and your love for her is completely misguided.

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Follow the argument in my post by rereading it. That poll is post 3.0 where Toji was absent, khara did their damnest to make everybody forget about him and Kensuke by turning them both into nothing but a joke and then removing them altogether in 3.0. 2.0 where they are both last seen was also like ten years ago user.

Pen Pen is garbage and Eva would be better without him.

New guy on Misato's crew from 3.0, he got like 1 second of screentime but girls find him more attractive than 90% of the male cast

>normal mens prefers calm and submissive womens.
No, "normal" men don't. Weak men, who do not think they stand a chance, do.
There's nothing to fear from a strong, confrontational woman: You might actually learn a lot about yourself in those confrontations. But you have to be ready to risk something. Then it might be very rewarding.
It also means truly respecting a woman as an individual - a person with her own valid feelings and opinions. Otherwise, a weak women would only ever be a passive object of your immediate actions. You don't need that. No one needs that.

>No, the difference is that the people who truly do suffer from narcissistic disorder are born assholes.
See my reply here: If your definition of narcissism is that narrow, Asuka doesn't fit it.

A lot of Rei fans just want the poka Rei of Rebuild 2.0.

I'm ashamed for these retards honestly.

Again, you are all overstating Asuka's problems.
And definitely understaing how "mentally broken" Rei is.
Neither is perfect. But Rei is literally a non-person in all important aspects of everyday life.

Shut up mogudan.

Anyone who says that is just false-flagging as a Reifag. I refuse to believe people can be that dumb.

Bro, Toji and Kensuke were NEVER popular with the female fans.
Even in the NGE days the only two guys who ever appeared on polls were Shinji and Kaworu.

This is why Toji and Kensuke have barely any merch and were ultimately sidelined in Rebuild. Because Khara knew very little people would care if they were gone.

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Nah, it's you who is underestimating them because you're an irresponsible turd who thinks mental illnes is sexy.

>Soryu

Does he even have a single line of dialogue? I've seen 3.0 maybe 4 times in total and I still can't remember him at all.

yeah he talks about how stupid he is and that he doesn't understand what he's doing or something. Nothing in 3.0 is memorable so I understand

Every new crewmember has at least one line of dialogue because they all have seiyuu

>Kaji being cucked out of the podium by freaking pen-pen
how

>I refuse to believe people can be that dumb.
If only I still had this positive naive view of humanity.

As an Asukafag there are plenty of other Asukafags I wish would just screw off. All fandoms have their share of retards.

SMith was the worse man. he arrived and went in the same OVA. which me just laugh because Anno did a poor job at convincing that Noriko and him spent a lot of time together

>be kaworu nagisa
>have literally 10 minutes of screentime
>somehow be as popular as the main character
>be so popular you're shoved onto every promotional art, advertisement, and given an entire movie in the rebuild series years later
Can anyone stop this madman?

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>But Rei is literally a non-person in all important aspects of everyday life.
Rei is outwardly functional while thinking about nature and her actions. She just doesn't give a fuck about the lower parts of life (which doesn't mean she wouldn't excel in them if there is reason for her to be involved at the time) which you deem important.

Based sensible Asukabro

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And then Anno did it all over again with Kaworu and Shinji in Eva.

Is #2 Nausicaa? She looks like a young Monsley there.

Oh, yeah, sure. I'm "underestimating" when I literally say that she is a very extreme example, just because I'm not unable to see her vulnerable and caring side.
You see, unlike Rei, Asuka does have "layers". She was written with some relatability in mind, and not even trying to understand her is failing to understand what it means to be human.

I can't look at Nausicaa the same after reading that series of doujins.

>the lower parts of life which you deem important.
Human interaction is not "the lower parts of life". It's literally what makes you a morally complete human being instead of just some machine that can collect and sort empirical data.
As a Reifag, aren't you especially proud of that kind of "character development" for her? That she, in the end, understands human interaction?

Don't get so buttblasted over a joke post, autist-kun. I think Toji isn't ugly, he has handsome bone structure, so whether he appears as attractive or not depends on the artists intention how are they going to portray him.
And if you're going to post a poll where Gendo is voted higher, then it's obvious aesthetics were never a factor to begin with. Obviously I never expected either of them to be on any popularity polls. Fuck your popularity polls tho, they don't mean shit even seasonal trash can appear in a poll.

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>unlike Rei, Asuka does have "layers".
>unlike Rei
This is what the retarded portion of Asukafags actually believe. That loud explosions and obnoxiousness somehow mean more depth, just because they're literally in your face.

None of the "arguments" you present here are worth taking seriously so I'm going to end it here. You're a delusional waifufag.

True human interaction is made of action. I don't care much about someone not projecting warmth outwards.

Buttblasted? I'm just showing you Toji was never popular with the girls. Or popular at all, really.
It's fine if you disagree, I personally still really like him as a character, but Japanese girls don't agree with us.
It was the case in 1996, it's the same case now.

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you have to be a really shitty person to feel relatable to asuka
she is a literal emotional abuser that hates admiting she has to step out of the high horse and take responsability. She wants people to like her while doing fuck all to be likable by others

does jesus yamato still dominates the charts?

>relatability
Unsurprisingly, asukafags and self-insert fags are one and the same. And they relate more to the basket case.

Yeah, it's cool how it visually shows Shinji becoming less and less of a tangible individual and more of part of the intangible nothingness of Instrumentality as the stages progress, up until the point he starts to make his big realizations.

He goes back to being #1 when no new stuff is released

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You are going on an autistic rant to prove that fujos could NEVER POSSIBLY like Toji as a response to obvious jokes, which does show a level of fixation and makes you look like a buttblatsed kawoshin fujo. Please take your insecurity elsewhere. I've read that fujos did actually ship Toji and Shinji for a while until Kaworu showed up tho, so while not popular, some appeal must have been there.
And going back to my initial argument, it's possible to manufacture popularity to a degree, it depends on intentions. See: Mari.

>That loud explosions and obnoxiousness somehow mean more depth, just because they're literally in your face.
No. It's just that a lack of conflicting traits means no depth. Rei is really a rather "in your face" character that reveals itself completely. In a way, that's necessary for her role to work. She can't be "multiple layers deep", as that would destroy her (mental) purity and innocence.

Asuka isn't even my waifu, nor in my top-10 of favourite characters. I just find her incredibly interesting. And sympathetic.
But, of course, you only ever think in black and white, don't you?

>I don't care much about someone not projecting warmth outwards.
No one projects warmth in Evangelion. Not truly, honestly, at least. And what happens inwardly is what matters in the end.

>you have to be a really shitty person to feel relatable to asuka
No, you just have to be able to accept and look past negative traits.
>She wants people to like her
Everyone does.
>while doing fuck all to be likable by others
Well, user, what do you to be liked by others? And if you do anything to that end ... isn't that rather egoistic and manipulative?

>self-insert fags
Relatability and self-inserting are not the same. You should have learnt that in school, but maybe you missed that "literary analysis 101" class.

It's impressive how quickly so many Reifags here have stooped to a level this low, where every "argument" is practically a personal attack. Shows some desperation, I must say.

Not that user and I don't have a dog in this fight, but Asuka is absolutely a relatable character for an average person. She is basically defined as a person that desperately wants genuine love and affection but is too scared of being hurt by the prickles of the Hedgehog's Dilemma as a result of her childhood trauma with her mother and father. To cope with that she always takes the high and mighty road, attempting to convince herself she is mature and better than her peers in a sad attempt to support her belief of living alone and not relying on others for emotional support.

I can honestly say in my young adult phase I did the same exact thing as her, except instead of using 'piloting' as my pillar of self worth I used my work ethic, strength and skill in combat arts to get that 'superior' feeling. I was too scared of intimacy and rejection so just convinced myself I'm better off alone, and supported that thesis with the air of superiority I felt about myself. Looking at her was almost like looking at a mirror for me.

Huh?
I was just showing you that Khara's treatment of him isn't to blame for his lack of popularity, it's not a recent thing.
I mean, I'm sure he's always been well received but he's never had the fanbase that Kaworu/Asuka/Rei had.
I'm sorry if you think I was going on a rant, that wasn't my intention.

I hated every aspect of Kaworu as a character ever since I laid my fifteen year old fragile fujo eyes upon him all these years ago. Everything about him reeked of cold calculation combined with his rushed introduction and departure on top of the whole affair feeling forced and deux ex machina as fuck. Even after I've read it wasn't the case, my dislike of him has not subsided.

Based Kaworu triggering the fujos

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Most of the people you are talking to probably just have a humongous hate boner for Asuka because she is more popular, and since they have nothing else in their lives besides their escapist waifu take personal offense to everything you say.

The most punchable face in all of Eva.

How did they animate Kaworu in a way that he’d have Mona Lisa properties? This smug bastard is looking straight into my eyes.

Disagree, this is the most punchable.

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>No, the difference is that the people who truly do suffer from narcissistic disorder are born assholes.

So Asuka isn't a narcissist by that definition. She became the way she was as a result of her mother trying to replace her with a doll and kill her along with herself, while also not having a father in the picture that actually cared about her. Her behavior is a result of her environment influencing her more than anything.

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Nah, all of these are endearing. Unlike Kaworu.

I think you mean smoochable!

Fuck off Hyuga, get back to work and yelling random technobabble.

Kaworu isn't for disgusting landwhale fujos
He's for based bisexual men like Anno and Shinji

Definitely smoochable. Misato practically embodies real femininity.

kek

Are they homophobes?

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>people who truly do suffer from narcissistic disorder are born assholes
Factually incorrect. Narcissists are made, not born. In order for someone to develop narcissistic personality disorder one must typically:
>suffer from parental neglect during early childhood and into adolescence
>must be conditioned into thinking parental love/ love in general is earned, not given unconditionally
>must be taught to derive validation through their achievements only which develops strong overachieving ambition and desire to be the best at everything as a way to earn parental love
>must imprint on their paretns/caretakers abusive behavior
Does it remind you of someone? Narcissism is just one of many faces of self esteem issues only driven to the extreme and pathological. Unfortunately this personality type cannot be significantly altered, it can only be managed. Narcissists being extremely focused on their own needs and desires is an expression of their unfulfilled desire for love they didn't receive in their childhoods.

I wasn't the one who said Asuka was a clinical narcissist. Maybe that user knows more about the subject. I have read that narcissists can be a result of their upbringing, but honestly, I think they are born with the right profile to develop it. So yeah, to me personally, it's a trait that's already there from birth and that becomes exacerbated with nurture. But that's just coming from the narcissists I've personally known.

Much as we once thought Asuka and Rei were the prototype tsundere and cooldere, Misato is the First Millennial

>Kaworu isn't for disgusting landwhale fujos
Well, now he is. He's a whore spreading on whale magazines and posing like a wanton kitty for slobbering fujos pleasure. Deal with it Anno.

Thanks for sharing, user. I based what I said on what I've read on the condition and the narcissists I've known, but I'm no psychologist.

That said
>Unfortunately this personality type cannot be significantly altered, it can only be managed.
This confirms the safest thing to do is to just steer clear of them, isn't it?

>But that's just coming from the narcissists I've personally known.
That's obvious bullshit because how would you know which part is nurture and which is nature? There is no way for you to know that.

Why on the first part of evangelion, rei show emotions but in the middle of evangelion she act like a doll without emotions?.

Yeah, for fujos and gay men.
It's not my fault that Japanese people don't find darker skinned characters like Toji attractive.

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Nothing made her emotional since.
Shinji got 1 smile out of her, but it ultimately didn't change her.

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What's better? This

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Kaworu is too effeminate to be of interest for gay men.

I agree that she has narcissistic tendencies, but she is able to care for and empathize with other people, albeit in her own way. The fact that her childhood trauma makes her hide her actual feelings of desiring love and acceptance since she is too scared of getting burnt again doesn't help neither.

However, the fact that she does indeed, deep down, show the want for love and acceptance means that she isn't irredeemable. Even in EoE, at the very end, she shows that she is able to change and break this conditioning by reaching out in a loving caress to Shinji, which is one of the first times she is actually honest with herself and others, accepting instead of pushing away. She is a very sympathetic character, I'd even go to say she is more sympathetic than Shinji.

Or this?

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*blocks ur path*

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Then I guess I don't exist

And they're all 20-30 years younger than the original cast, whose voices were already changing by the time of the first Rebuild and couldn't give the same performances as in NGE. I think part of the reason for a timeskip was to change the characters a little because the seiyuu didn't sound the same as even when the movies started. Get ready for any hypothetical Rebuild followup to star Mari and her squad.

But when Shinji spy to Rei and Gendo, she act like a normal girl almost like Asuka.

She displays emotions many times during the middle of the show. Off the top of my head : Annoyance when Asuka introduced herself to her, fear when Shinji got swallowed in the shadow realm, anger when Asuka said he's got what he deserved, embarrassment when Shinji said she'd make a good mother and when he cleaned her room

You don't. I manifested you for the purpose of this conversation.

>star Mari and her squad.
I'm actually okay with Mari, but fuck the new crew.

I'm convinced the writers forgot that scene or considered it a mistake.

Quick question, are 25' and 26' worth watching alongside 25 and 26 or are they both covered by End of Eva? Getting kind of confused if I should watch 25, 25', 26, 26', and EoE in that order

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I have no idea how on Earth could somebody find pasty ass white skin attractive. Tanned bodies are more attractive by definition. Japs and their shir racist taste yuck.

as far as I can remember, it's one of the only times you see Gendo and Rei interacting alone for quite a while in the show. I had the same thought but having rewatched it recently you don't ACTUALLY see Rei II specifically speak to him very often

No one likes blacks.
Pale white skin is aesthetic.

Watch them separate.
Don't listen to anyone saying they are connected like its a fact.

25' 26' IS end of Eva.

Watch normal episodes 25/26 and then EoE

I said tan not black. Tan is sexy as fuck, everybody likes a little tan. Corpse white is not, it makes you look diseased.

Either it was so early in the show the people involved didn't know exactly where they'd go with Rei, or it's meant to convey Shinji's insecurities. Since the scene is very much from his point of view, I've always seen it as Shinji imagining it, or exaggerating the expression Rei had during that conversation.

Later in the show Shinji asks to Rei how is his father, and made reference to that scene and how they seemed to get along very well, but she claims to not know at all, and that's kind of the point, ultimately. Up until then, Shinji lived with the sentiment that Gendo replaced him with Rei, but it's not really the case.

I think that Rei was the original Asuka but the writer change of opinion and made to Asuka. This explain the change in the serie when Asuka is introduce.

Thanks, that's what I figured going off of some quick research. I know 25 and 26 were the initial broadcast release, I just didn't know how 25' and 26' related to EoE

chronological dates of release is always the answer. always.

No, that makes no sense.
Asuka was always in the series plans anyway.

Naw, they revisited it 10 episodes later, the scene in the elevator where Shinji's asking Rei about his father and calls her mommy. Shinji flashes back with a filter over it and Rei doesn't know what he's talking about. Maybe Shinji's an unreliable narrator, like how he has repressed memories that cover half the plot.

It's the same thing to the Japanese
Tan = Unhuman

>everybody likes a little tan.
I don't. White as snow > all.

You are a sick fuck and probably necrophiliac. Do you enjoy the greyish-blue net of veins covering pale bodies or being able to spot every possible blemish from a mile?

I think Asuka is more of a study on social masks as a way to cope with trauma rather than straight, unadulterated narcissism. Obviously, her social mask conveys a degree of narcissism but ultimately is only there so she can hide her true desires of genuine compassion and intimacy with another human being. It's shown many times in NGE that she genuinely cares about others but is too afraid to admit it to herself.

For example, when Shinji gets sucked up into the Sea of Dirac and she starts saying he deserved it for rushing in. We know she didn't mean it and felt bad for over-reacting, and was in fact worried about Shinji as shown by her awkward stealth attempt at checking up on him in the Hospital. However, during her argument with Rei, she didn't want to admit to herself she worried about him and so defended her ego by being abrasive and pushing away. The duality in what she says outwardly and what she wants inwardly is my favorite, and one of the more realistic parts, about her character

I know that, it's disgusting. But we've all already known japs have shit taste. No surprises there.

In the serie Asuka was on NERV for 6 years while Rei only had two years oficially Then no make sense that Rei is the first child and Asuka second child.

>Do you enjoy the greyish-blue net of veins covering pale bodies
Depending on the level of cardio-vascularity, yes, I do

Maybe Rei was publicly declared as a pilot in NERV first while Asuka's status had been veiled in secrecy until after Rei was around? idk.

Personally I think EoE makes the better ending. 25-26 are weak, both from a plot perspective and from a production quality perspective.

That said, I would probably still watch 25-26 first. If you find them unsatisfying, you're not the only one, and you can watch EoE afterwards to get a better version of the ending.

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Then why do they slobber over Kamina or Archer? There has been a fair share of popular dark skinned characters but they usually go with super extrovert or hyper masculine and bombastic personalities. Nips are very beta so a lot of them likes being dominated by dark skinned machos.

Rei was objectively a pilot first. She pilots Unit-00, the prototype. She was the first Eva pilot, hence first child. There's a big gap where we don't have much of an idea what NERV was doing for about 5 years and it was probably ironing out kinks in the Eva with her while Asuka was being trained for the Production Model

otp

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The Marduk Institute exist yet to name anybody as Children. It arbitrarily assigned those designations to the ones Nerv already had before it was founded.

Black is aesthetic.
White is basic.

Enjoy your moldy mayo then, user.

as if

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Aesthetic is much more than you basic orges like wanting to fuck. Aesthetic is very non sexual.

Nigga these are anime characters

I guess aesthetic is also being 10 IQ points below the average

Kamina isn't dark and the Fate characters are part of a modern trend of fujo appeal

Tojifujo, are you seriously getting upset that people tend to prefer white over black?

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Who are you talking to.

What is the modern trend of fujo appeal?

incest

Never had a mother-son relationship, and Rei's infertile so there's no danger.

Ot3

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Kamina is borderline nigger.

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>We'll never get a scene where Asuka and Rei get to apologize to each other post instrumentality
Don't said it can happen in 3.0+1.0 cause neither of them are the real Asuka or Rei

Not really

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He isn't even that tanned,stop being obsessed over niggers

Stop being obsessed with corpses.

He's far from japanese ideal of whiteness.

Stop being obsessed with people preferring pale over shitskin.
He's not that much tanner than Simon, so no I wouldn't call him especially dark.

Stop flaunting your shitty preferences.

You have like 3 people arguing against you, landwhale.

Congrats on being basic, faggot.