I actually expected this to be a "pretentiousdeep" anime just like Serial Experiments Lain/Texhnolyze or, comparatively, the 1995 movie.
Instead, it was just a regular slice of life cop show with generic cyberpunk themes.
Who in their right mind would give robot tanks with machine guns an A.I. with a loli like personality tho?
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The future. Neck yourself brainlet.
Why do you put Gits 1995 on par with SEL/Tex?
Pleb
Not on par, but GITS 1995 is the "deepest" of the GITS franchise.
>what is Innocence?
Not as deep as 1995.
>Innocense
literally just a human trafficking case
smooth skulked retard
For real? I still have to watch it. I read the major is not the mc anymore, but Batou is. This already turns me off.
>Who in their right mind would give robot tanks with machine guns an A.I. with a loli like personality tho?
>Early in developmental learning AI
>Why dose it behave like a child?
ADHD much the creator of the tachikoma's AI wasn't going to get funding unless it was useful as a weapon thanks for paying a attention
GIT:SAC is one of the few shows that has the an accurate world built on how capitalism would shape our future it's brilliant
the visual is cool. Also the OST is 10/10.
That's why I like it. It's just a good action/cop show in an interesting setting. No 2deep4u bullshit.
>"deepest"
>Shortest run time
pick ONE GITS 95 barely scratches the surface of the handful of it vaguely topics it brings up
It might not have been as "deep" as the movie, but the complexity of the plot was great and the gun detail was top notch. And ever since I watched it, I've looked at real world events differently, take the area 51 raid thing for example, with how quickly companies latched onto it for use as an advertising gimmick, I wouldn't be surprised if they started the whole thing.
95 movie is the shallow fucking kids pool of Ghost in Shell
> slice of life cop show with generic cyberpunk themes
False, it actually has fairly deep psychological and philosophical themes, difference being unlike the movies, the people in charge of SAC could actually showcase the themes or discussions in a way any retard could understand, instead of simply having characters say four to five words and stare off into the distance for 10 minutes.
Also the Tachikomas possess learning AI, no shit it behaves like a kid learning things about the world.
Just wait for the last episode there’s an entire 15 minute philosophical diatribe about what it means to be a stand alone complex. This show has some really interesting themes though which I liked more than the film since it had way more time to explore them
>he actually thought this explains why the AI acts like lolis
They could act like shotas instead.
>it actually has fairly deep psychological and philosophical theme
Name 1.
It literally thinks that Catcher in the Rye is a deep book. That's how low it is compared to actually deep cyberpunk anime like SEL or TXNLZ.
To be fair, Major has no personality so why do you care?
Innocence is definitely underrated. It's on par with the first movie and fuck the haters. I very much prefer it to the dull SAC series.
So Innocence is good? Isn't just an eye candy?
Stfu kyler
I thought it was good because of everything besides the visuals. Didn't the cgi age like crap?
>To be fair, Major has no personality so why do you care?
Based. KUSOnagi is an overrated whore. Borma should be the Major instead.
I thought it was prized for the cgi
>brainlet who thinks he has taste complains on Yea Forums
just go rewatch DITF quietly or something
Is the puppet master a man?
>t. brainlet who couldn't understand even something simple as Serial Experiments Lain, much less complex stuff like Hunter x Hunter
>simple
>Lain
Based
>Texhnolyze
>pretentiousdeep
Another pleb filtered by the first episode.
Q.E.D.
I want to watch Innocence but barely remember anything from 95 so I've been putting it off for the last 4 years
>Q.E.D.
Quod erat demonstrandum? Don't act as you know latin
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT "[text]" MEANS YOU SUBHUMAN PIECE OF SHIT?
IT MEANS THAT THAT'S WHAT NPCs LIKE YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN GENERAL
I HOPE YOUR WHORE SINGLE MOTHER SUFFOCATES ON BLACK NIGGER SEMEN TONIGHT AS SHE'S GANGRAPED IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE A BASED BLACK MAN PUTS A JACKHAMMER THROUGH YOUR SKULL
DIE
>Quod erat demonstrandum?
Don't act as you know latin
rewatch it. It always good.
Or even better, watch the "remake" ghost in the shell 2.0
meant for :)
I studied it in high school. But I dont remember anything
Guess you missed all the political commentary and best execution of the evolution of group consciousness on a societal level. SAC is more relevant today than ever.
What makes Texhnolyze pretentious? People sure like to throw buzzwords, but I've never heard a valid argument on this.
it's okay i was just joking
>SAC is more relevant today than ever.
Kek, no it's not. You're absolutely delusional. The most realistic cyberpunk anime of all time is Serial Experiments Lain because it confined itself exclusively to Japan, so it was relatively believable.
All the other cyberpunk franchises always avoid the N-question.
>double spacing
>caps lock
>NPC
>:)
Nice post you got there.
>rewatch it
already have once
>ghost in the shell 2.0
fuck no
But it's cool. There is cgi!
You literally answered your own questions. 'People' (soulless husks) who don't understand what it was about call it pretentious. That's why it's widely considered a "pretentiousdeep" anime.
Only a few soulful people like me actually understood it and liked it genuinely.
>>double spacing
Your next line was going to be:
>"Double spacing is reddit spacing!"
Because you are a mentally ill soulless redditor who thinks he/his bug people invented double spacing.
Basically, it sucks and rides on the GiTS franchise to bait people into watching it
It's graced by the gits universe so it's deluzian
The presentation is really bad regardless of what kind of ideas it tackles.
Thanks for clearing that up, I'm not well versed in redditspeak. I mistakenly thought you personally called it pretentious, while you were only commenting on what the average person says.
>To be fair, Major has no personality so why do you care?
So the whole puppet master never happened? Her personality def changed after merging with the puppet master.
A lot of people forget about the Ghosts of Paradise anime that’s far better than the original. It’s one of the most underrated anime of our decade.
>defending shit spacing
>not knowing how to quote
The problem is you have to sit through the original to truly appreciate this.
>angry redditor
i dont get what's pretentious about Texhnolyze, can someone explain
To be honest, every adaptation other than SAC has been shit.
The 95 movies is just candy and wastes too much time on spectacle to actually dwell on its themes properly, and it is never satisfied to show an idea, when it can tell us about it. It excelled only in what it was meant to be - a flashy bauble to hook us into the franchise so we would buy the manga.
It tries to pretend it is deep, but it's depressingly unimaginative and generic.
I didnt get that at all from the series. It had a message and it articulated it very well through its characters and story. Also, how is it generic, to me its very different from most anime i've ever seen, havent seen a show quite like it since
In case you haven't, watch S2. The tachikoma's childlike nature pays off in the end with one of the strongest scenes imo.
That does not apply to technolyze, at all. If you could accuse it of something, is not having the exciting plot presentation you´d expect out of this kind of series (getting a lot of moments of pure silence and stilld gets people complaining about muh deepness/pleb filter/nothing happens), but there are good reasons for it.
>SAC 1
>establishes the idea of a Stand Alone Complex, explores the relationship between capitalist interests and healthcare
>SAC 2
>examines how mass immigration can be leveraged for political purposes
You're right, totally irrelevant to our modern times
>leftypol
>criticizing the system means you want to take it down
you can be pro-democracy and criticize the faults of democracy, you understand that right? You aren't so low IQ that you believe supporting a system means blind obedience, do you?
Ignore anyone that calls an anime pretentious, 9/10 times they don't know what that word means.
It means that most normies don't understand it, we've already been through this.
It does not think that CitR is a deep book. The point of that is that it shows the immaturity of the Hacker Kid.
He is a teen lashing out at the world, and the CitR reference was meant to show that even in the future people think the same. Just as kids (mainly in the past at this point) latched onto that book, kids will do the same in the future.
You misunderstood the point.
I think retards think it's pretentious simply because of the pace. They think slow=pretentious so they throw out the buzzword as criticism because they can't even articulate their thoughts properly. It's fine not to like slow shows but the least they could do is fucking express themselves clearly.
i agree with you op its just feels like soulless moneygrab, dropped after 7 episodes
Wow, that went way over your head. You need to be 35yo+ before watching GitS stuff.
True, it's soulless but it's good entertainment. Kinda like most ""good"" shonen that aren't JoJo/HxH/FMA.
What set SAC apart for me is that it explored Cyberpunk as a real world.
A lot of series just use Cyberpunk as a setting with which they use to espouse the creator's views over. While SAC had that, a lot more focus was put on the actual workings of that kind of world than is standard for the genre.
>75 posts
>only one mention of the music
Plebs
>as a real world.
where are the Africans?
kenji kawai is the best
>he didn't get the point of the reference despite Major literally explaining it to the brainlet audience e.g. you
How stupid are you, user?
in Africa
and the worst of it all is that the conclusion was just
>J.D. Salinger
>yaas
>no
>J.D. Salinger
>yaas
>no
>J.D. Salinger
>yaas
>no
ITT: People ignoring the themes of stand-alone episodes for the first antagonist's autistic obsessions despite it being 20% of the total work
/thread
So it's not based on the real world at all then. The London episode showed how utterly delusional the show is compared to reality. 90% of the characters were supposed to be black or brown in London and Major should've walked around in a burqa.
Did you miss the part where the GitS world has gone through a nuclear WW3 followed by a non-nuclear WW4? Why would you expect demographics to be the same as they are in your head?
you've never been to London
I have. I guess for a goblino like you, the average muslim looks like a based Trump supporting American white man.
I got you two don't worry.
Texholyze! gave pain around like kandy.
Hgh
>lain/texnolize, 1995 movie
>pretentious
Either its b8 or you are severly retarded.
It has its fair share of 2deep4u shit but you can gloss over it and focus on cops antics
I finished it last night, what good timing for a thread. the last seven episodes were a fucking RIDE. I love the theme that justice is frowned upon, the fact that aramaki had to sacrifice so much just to serve one piece of justice was just hard to watch. I really wish certain characters like saito, paz, borma got more screentime, felt like it wasn't about section 9 but just the major and batou. also maybe i didn't catch it, but I wish there was an episode that tied in the puppet master AI. i'm definitely watching second gig soon even though you guys say its nowhere near as good.
the series is from 2003 retard. I went to london in 2014 and I barely saw any muslims.
the op/ed really didn't do it for me but the ambient music was great
soulless? really? fuck off nigger who watched 7 episodes, you have no clue
I hated the tachikomas until their AI advanced. the episode where they discuss philosophy was hilarious. and try to ascertain "generic cyberpunk themes" a little better fag cause I really didn't feel that at all
Arise Makoto is the best
I liked second gig as much as I liked the first, you'll also enjoy it for the ambient music
>arise
It was alright but nowhere near as good as everything that came before it. I hate what they did with the major's hair, it only gets better for 1 minute at the very end of the movie. Also the music wasn't very good aside from the ending songs
Origa ia 10/10
rip tho
Underage fags should be forbidden from mentioning GITS
The convenience store bit in Innocence is better than ANYTHING in SAC.
2nd Gig was real good. Stakes were raised and when everything came together in the last few episodes it was amazing.
youtu.be
Major is cute! Cute!