Why the best and only good phase of the entire Dragon Ball series is the least popular one?
Dragon Ball Classic
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only hipsters prefer dragonball
Toriyama is a hipster now?
Objectively it's really one of the best shounen anime out there but culturally it never had that same staying power that Z had.
because most Dragon Ball fans are only in it for the fights and flashing lights
I honestly think the series just starts getting boring after the first tournament
I think it goes in too hard on the Chinese mythology and Hong Kong kung fu movie aesthetic to grab the Western audience.
I swear Dragon Ball just has to come up with random bullshit constantly just to avoid destroying itself
too wacky and not flashy enough
red ribbon arc is pretty tough to get through but the rest is good
>tfw bejita sama shows my wife a good time
Even classic sucks.
There are some good gags here and there, and not political correct shit like that gay character being made fun of for being gay, which would literally cause a sjw uproar had these chapters been released today but overall both Dragonball and dragonball z are garbage. There are like 15 chapters of goku fighting roshi which are boring as fuck. No plot whatsoever No character development. Shitty storytelling. The story got popular because of powerlevelfags and is inferior not only to good shonen like one piece, FMA , hxh but also to all the other basic shonen like bleach and Naruto. Dragonball is shit. That's all I am saying.
>Bleach
>Better than anything
You lost me there user, even Black Clover is better than Bleach.
Why is the very first battle shonen so formulaic? Toriyama should have been deconstructing genre in the first place! I don't care if it didn't really exist at the time!
It's not the very first but it was the most popular and influential.
I hope everyone's ready for shitty action adventure shonen that just rip off one piece because that's the future of the genre.
Because you don't understand what "first" or "formulaic" means
When someone uses the phrase, "shonen trash," Bleach and Fairy Tail are the first to come to mind. If anyone ranks Bleach above a D grade I instantly dismiss their taste.
Enter CHADren.
this desu
The first battle shonen was Hokuto no Ken. Ironically, it DID actually deconstruct the genre by showing what a shithole the world would be if powerlevels actually existed and everything turned into "might is right".
Because manchildren like seeing light shows to get them entertained.
he's a troll
It's also funny because Hokuto is the peak of shonen and a masterpiece
Reminder that someone actually drew this.
you can post the uncensored version. there's no nudity.
OG Dragon Ball has aged horribly. The audio and video quality are terrible.The Japanese voice track sounds like it's coming through a wall. There are film distortions in almost every shot. Adults are constantly sexually assaulting minors for laughs. Unwatchable.
Stop shilling your JoJo ripoff
>Reminder that someone actually drew this.
>power so excessive that it breaks the meta
Oh well back to sHits and Jobrens.
>this much effort over a dumb Yea Forums slapfight
Jirenautists, everyone.
What's the actual appeal of tits that big?
I like how the original Dragonball is supposed to be about demons and then those demons are suddenly aliens in Dragonball z. Toriyama never planned shit, hell he even forgets the characters he creates... And lat but not least, most of the fandom has never read the original kek.
>SHITrentard commissioned this
>obsessed schizo SHITrentard is an ESL
BASED
>whatever comes next will be even more incredible
Holy fucking shit, CHADren movie confirmed!
>sHits and Jobrens.
I can't believe we got two bald purple edgelords in a row.
How is PHYSICALLYIMPOSINGren so cool bros?
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>SHITren
>Imposing
KEK
Please understand.
Aliens are more marketable to an international audience than demons. Mothers would not buy a Frieza toy for their sons if he were a demon.
What's going to happen to them?
That's why DB should have ended after the original.
>tits that big
Welcome, newfag
Cannon fodder.
I hate how inconsistent Jiren's size is in the anime. He looks well over eight feet tall in this clip, with Goku on his tip toes barely coming up to Jiren's chest, and Jiren's fists are the size of a man's head. Then his proportions indicate he grows massively when he goes full power which is mostly reflected in the animation, but then during his final melees with UI Goku he's clearly only a few inches taller, to the point that when they grapple, they look each other in the eye.
>whatever comes next will be even more incredible
Holy shit, Jobly already got surpassed by a character that doesn't even exist yet.
Enter in chadren.
>Broly was excessively powerful, so we'll probably head in a different direction.
Lern2reed.
I went through it and Z for the first time a year ago and it surprised me, I found Z boring as shit by comparison, even the fights were more entertaining in the original
they gonna die
He's talking about the movie itself you idiot.
Z dropped a lot of the gimmicks and puzzle fights, unfortunately. Now it's all just about powering up to a new glowy form.
I forgot how much I fucking hated how shit Super could end up looking at times
So what will the next movie be about?
Well that much is obvious.
based gokupedo
Holy fuck...
Because the original actually focused on legit martial arts. It used to be about strict martial arts and technique but Z went and made it a light show about transformations, energy spam, power levels, etc
actual thread here
>Broly was about strength
>new movie is going in a different direction
Gimmick villain time. Moro adaptation, maybe?
3 Beerus is purple and technically has no hair, also he blows planets up for not having good food that's pretty edgy
What color is Moro again? I think i'm starting to see a trend
Nah I'd argue the first battle Shonen was Kinnikuman
>57 posts vs 3
I think we all know which is the actual thread.
Moro is blue. He's also more classically villainous, rather than edgy.
Based!
That would be cool.
this has been up for 2 hours and doesn't say "Dragon Ball Super"
It is popular, just not in America because DBZ was localized first.
The most important question is, will Frieza return?
The space visuals would look great in animated form. It'd also be awesome to hear Moro and Merus get voiced.
Yeah since those two will need to be shilled out in video games soon starting with Heroes.
This. That's why westerners wouldn't be as interested in it compared to japanese fans.
Most likely. The guy's basically a mainstay now and is one of the most popular characters around. Though I wonder how and if he'll return in this arc.
>SHITrentards keep showing how illiterate they are
At this point even Tienfags are less beta and gay
>shitty unfunny gag series
Dragon Ball was never good.
Isn’t that the part of the show with all the fag, retard shit? There’s barely anything of substance. Master Roshi/Turtle Hermit is the king of dipshits the entire time. You’d think Goku should train him.
im okay with this
"Hearts: That’s enough. Jiren, just as the rumors say, your power is a threat befitting as the strongest out of all the universes… hmm?
(Kamin over hologram projection.)
Kamin: Hearts, this is Kamin reporting from Universe 3. I have good news.
Right now, the Universal release device has been finished. It was easy thanks to this universe’s technology!
Hearts: Good work. You guys! I’ll leave you with this match! We’re very busy as you can see. Everyone, let’s head over to Universe 3!
(Hearts and presumably the other two as well disappear.)
Goku (CC): Ku…!
Vegeta (CC): I won’t allow that bastard achieve his goals! We’re going to Universe 3!
"in the arcade Super Hearts and S3 Cumber fight Goku, Jiren, Hit, and Golden Metal Cooler all at the same time. Super Hearts is that strong (or not that weak, whichever way you look at it)."
>People hating on the battle shonen that birthed every other battle shonen that came after it.
I simply cannot process this shit at all.
>Jiren, just as the rumors say, your power is a threat befitting as the strongest out of all the universes
Holy FUCKING shit how can he STILL be the undisputed strongest so many arcs later?
Just imagine, Heroes fresh new OC fanfic character villain shows up, you're wondering how strong he might be, what are his abilities - and nearly the first thing he does is job to Jiren, and basically go "Holy fuck they were right, you really are the strongest in the entire multiverse".
Jesus CHRIST this man is an insurmountable wall.
...
Without power levels Dragon Ball would have nothing going for it.
Why do contrarians try to pretend that hating the most influential and popular shonen makes you cool?
>flattens SS3 Cumber who was stronger than SSB Vegetto as a SS1
Cooler is literally the most powerful DB villain at the moment. Let that sink in.
It's out
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Power befitting yes, but nowhere near the strongest.
Omen Goku, Cumber, OrenVegeta, Kamioren, SSBE Vegeta, Hearts, all stronger than Jiren.
>Omen Goku, Cumber, OrenVegeta, Kamioren, Hearts, all stronger than Jiren.
when galactic patrol comes for chilli could broccoli even stop them? they have ray guns and merus-sama...
>Dragon Ball
>The first battle shonen
LMFAO, when Dragon Ball was transformed in a true battle shonen other popular mangas like Hokuto no Ken and Saint Seiya were already around. The DBZ anime might have popularized shonen in the west, but the original manga is in no way the "first battle shonen"
Hell no. That's exactly why they should rejoin Frieza because they don't mess with him.
If those prisoners with Moro don't get killed, they're all probably going to jump on board to Frieza train since I'd think Cranberry probably mentioned him to them.
Still better than anything made by Toriyama/Toei after the Cell Arc.
Always was. Also, foreshadowing.
THIS ISNT A DBS THREAD YOU STUPID NEWFAGS. LEARN TO READ AND GTFO OF THIS NOSTALGIASHITTING THREAD.
Probably, all their best gadgets can barely slow Moro down in his weaker forms. Burori is GoD-tier.
Cope.
how about you fuck off, your stupid ass thread is dead as fuck, this pretty much turned into db generals
I have no words...
Goku is truly a psychopath
>Goku eats a wolf, breaks Yamcha's tooth, and doesn't invite him to the ToP
>Yamcha beats Goku twice and Goku's sons are strangely similar to Yamcha
It's like they hate each oher.
>confirms the rumors that he is the strongest
>not the strongest
Oh the coping
Who the fuck are you quoting? You low iq no reading comprehension moron. I never said it was the first but that its existence changed the very fabric of how battle shonen was done from that point on. It's the motherfucking king of shonen. Now show some goddamn respect.
Moro is going to be stronger than Broly besides Broly is an idiot so he's more vulnerable.
CRINGE YOURSELF
People have shit taste. OG DB is the best in the series and the Pilaf arc is the arc in the history of DB.
No. Jaco would be enough to one-shot Broly.
This. Also it's bullshit how Launch got benched.
>Moro is going to be stronger than Broly
I said "in his weaker forms". The GP can't handle a Buu-tier dude; they'd be nothing to Broly.
>Broly is an idiot so he's more vulnerable.
If Cheelai screamed for help Broly'd wreck the GP like he did that bug thing that threatened Paragus.
I still think some will die, some will escape and some will head back to prison. It's like that with most jailbreaks anyways. Those trio of siblings seem like the ones who might end up getting away. Some might even pull a Cheelai and join Frieza for protection.
DB is from the 80s and anime didn't really popular in the west until the late 90s
>I said "in his weaker forms". The GP can't handle a Buu-tier dude; they'd be nothing to Broly.
>Buu-tier dude
Moro isn't that tier you idiot. He's at minimum SSG tier.
>If Cheelai screamed for help Broly'd wreck the GP like he did that bug thing that threatened Paragus.
Then Merus would zap his ass before he even gets to transform or do anything. Broly has no chance of winning.
At least I'm genuine
I'd laugh if the only prisoner who ends up dying is Cranberry. The guy who was with the Frieza Force.
I like DB too. I think that is what DBGT, tried to go back to.
There are differences between DB and DBZ, so I assume GT tried to have the best of both rolled into one anime.
I guess that's why a certain amount of anons, like DBGT for that reason. Hopefully, we'll get another comfy DB one day.
>He's at minimum SSG tier.
However tough Moro is, even his strongest form is still below Goku and Vegeta, and Merus could barely restrain him when he was weaker.
>Then Merus would zap his ass before he even gets to transform or do anything. Broly has no chance of winning.
If the Galactic Patrol could handle Broly, why do they stay away from Frieza? Why do they need Goku and Vegeta to defeat Moro, when he's just barely gotten his magic back?
Broly is far from helpless, even in his base form, which Vegeta needed SSG to fight.
>his base form, which Vegeta needed SSG to fight.
That was not his base you speedwatching mongoloid.
*Needed SSG to beat, excuse me.
Vegeta needs to go SSG to beat his base form, and when he does, Broly then powers up to his Wrathful form.
>confirms a rumour
nice headcanon
>SHITren strongest anything
Hearts had to ask sHit who's the strongest person he knows but now Hearts is omniscient and confirmed the SHITrentard's headcanon!
Imagine being a stupidrenspic
>taking the obsessed schizo's bait
thot: obliterated.
Based General Blue owning the trannies.
>Brolyfriend debating the manga
>mindbroke Jobrentard vomiting bile
Trash will always be trash
Headcanon
SS2 would have been enough.
>>mindbroke Jobrentard vomiting bile
Speak English you dirty latin mongrel.
BASED AND GODLYPILLED
If base Broly was SS2-tier, it's difficult to think that an Oozaru multiplier would rocket him all the way up to SSG-tier, even if his Oozaru multiplier is larger than the average Saiyan's.
baste
Canon
>taking it easy on an old man so you don't obliterate him, and then calmly and painlessly knocking him out with a chop
Based RESPECTSHISELDERSren. Far cry from Toeiren who tortures people for no reason.
Wtf are you talking about. Its less of a gap than SS to God. Vegeta was barely overwhelmed before going SSG
>just as the rumors say
>not confirming
I see that cloth paco failed English language class yet again.
Base Broly is stronger than SSB, Ikari is very clearly stated to be an shitty Oozaru in human form. This is OG Dragonball crap.
Ikari is what puts him over regular SSB and on par with the manga's current SSB forms.
If for some reason Ikari isn't a 10x boost but something immensely more powerful then how could his next form only give him a 50x boost?
A monkey can't be stronger than a SS.
>multipliers
No longer canon.
Try again tomorrow
i'm just surprised trunks is nothing like yamcha
Yeah but SSG is far above even SS3-tier.
No one asked you anything jackass, I'm having a conversation with a Brolyfriend.
But Gohan and adult Goten look really similar to him.
ESL here. Just wondering, when DBZ came to US, did the character names sounded weird/funny to you back then?
>l-let me spew my fanfiction in peace
No. Cope, Joblycamel.
I know. Back when I bought Budokai 3 without watching the anime first I literally thought Gohan was Yamcha's son.
>Liking Dragon Ball in 2019
CRINGE
He got manhandled by SSB before going SS you fuckface.
They had to break common sense in order to make Jobly a threat. Realistically he shouldn't reach SSG tier.
Right, I forgot. Ikari/Wrathful Broly could eventually compete with SSB Goku. Jesus, what a beast.
(Also, Broly's power is hard to track, especially with how nebulous Super power levels are. He stacks SS and LSS atop Ikari, while Goku and Vegeta keep fusing and going SSG and SSB and blah blah.)
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>3:08
That's not quite getting manhandled, dude. That's an almost even match.
What are you anons even talking about? Dragon Ball is massively popular in the West.
Throw out spicland, because it's not really the west, and Z is only marginally more popular because of Toonami.
Do we really need 2 shitty threads? Yea Forums is in serious need of quality control.
He's a mutant prodigy who's survived 40 years of God-knows-what on Vampa, getting presumably quite a few Zenkais. He also gets rageboosts and stacks SS atop Ikari and all that.
It's a stretch, but you could say the same for Frieza, since four months' training made him SSB-tier. Broly's just the Saiyan equivalent.
Can we talk about OG DB?
What ifg it had taken a mystic route instead of scify?
DB, DBZ, and Bebop are the only anime in all history where the English dub is superior.
I literally can't bear this fact yet. What the fuck is Akira's problem?
That's an interesting thought. Would the Kais, Beerus, Buu and the other mystical characters be the same in a more fantasy-oriented DB franchise?
He was getting beat up by SSB you shitdick. They even explicitly said so.
already told you to shut the fuck samefag.
Still. The gap between SS and SS3 is humongous, SS3 and SSG are.literally.on another league , and again to SSB.
>getting beat
>not a scratch or even a dirt mark
>comfortably wins by points
Worry about spamming your gay edits and pastas and leave the discussion to the big boys.
>l-lets ignore what Frieza and Paragus said h-haha
Joblycucks are pathetic.
>literally nothing
>lying and obsessed schizo thinks his headcanon matters
Now go be a good pup and eat shit.
Just change "space" with demon world and make Goku a mythological creature
The main issue is that DB has been on for too long. Goku and Vegeta should be able to destroy galaxies with a bad sneeze, so it gets harder and harder to create villains that could plausibly take them on.
He was going to lose most likely, but he was still nearly a match for an SSB. That's nothing to sniff at.
It is bizarre to think what turns this franchise has taken. It used to be a Sun Wukong parody, now it's a crazy-ass multiversal shonen fighting series.
Told you I was smart. But you didn't listen.
They missed an opportunity to with Future Trunks
>And now the future's at peace... right?
>y...yeah....
Yes
hahahaha
It's hilarious how a Dragonball classic thread devolved into a Dragonball super thread.
The absolute state of Dragonball.
I mean Dragonball is the only reason any other content was produced. Idk I don’t care enough to rank the shows, I watch what I want to watch.
New Freeza Force recruits, especially the girls.
Lord Freeza said times are changing and women are just as capable as men in the workplace.