Domestic na Kanojo, Ruifags on suicide watch

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I look forward to the page where Rui looks at his massive chefcock and says the usual "i've never seen one this big."

It came off more that he was happy for her success, nothing to really suggest lingering emotions, but i cant blame others for thinking otherwise. Only Rui still wants to get back together, but that just pisses me off because she is literally taking no responsibility and has no guilt for the shit shes put Natsuo and Hina through.
If she suffered, cried, and felt as bad as shes made Natsuo and Hina, then allright then. But now its like she's getting off scott free and expects everything to go her way. but its like she always gets away with it by waiting long enough for Natsuo to apologize, or just bury the issue without resolving it only for it to come back up.

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oof. after reading Natsuo and Ruis convo, it reminded me of how i talk to people after a long time. nothing special, just the mandatory 'how are things' 'things are good' 'im working hard' then mentioning the one thing that stands out before handing the phone to someone else.
Nothing too intimate or to suggest eventual love, just a standard convo with family. No mention of Misaki or Miyabis role in his life or that Hina moved in. Rather it was Hina that made it sound like she moved in and just came to support lonely Natsuo. Looks like Natsuos moved on and is happy for her to be doing well with no lingering desires.

Also seems like the convo didn't so much spur Ruis feelings since she denied that 'hearing his voice' made her happy, but rather knowing he's working hard makes her want to work hard, which is also a trope for siblings. it literally comes off as a natural convo between siblings that are happy for each other. Only Ruis face and the end of her thinking of Natsuo suggests otherwise.

And now Kajia has gotten the 'save from falling' trope of eventual love where one saves the other from tripping.
and i think its telling that Kajita can be so blunt with Rui and she still likes him, but Natsuo always had to tip toe over things to avoid hurting her feelings.

Also made me laugh at Ruis "if you have time to abuse others, why not work to better yourselfs"?
Seriously?! after all the crap she accused Natsuo of? such a hypocrite.

>Rather it was Hina that made it sound like she had not moved in

>first as a Miunabro
>now as a Ruibro
Losing feels like shit.

Cause Hina won’t make the move. It’ll be Natsuo doing it. All this suffering is just massive winner flags for Hina.

>if you win you can go back to japan
All shes thinking about is sucking Nats dick

TY!!

Shame the anime series won't likely get continued. Boku and 5tou got renewed, but Dome getting a 2nd season would have covered most of the Nat/Rui relationship.

He just says that was cool for her

Rui is big jokes after she dumped him like shit (for not reason) when he needs her. Now Natsuo is happy she still thinks to comeback with him.

>It came off more that he was happy for her success, nothing to really suggest lingering emotions, but i cant blame others for thinking otherwise. Only Rui still wants to get back together, but that just pisses me off because she is literally taking no responsibility and has no guilt for the shit shes put Natsuo and Hina through.
>If she suffered, cried, and felt as bad as shes made Natsuo and Hina, then allright then. But now its like she's getting off scott free and expects everything to go her way. but its like she always gets away with it by waiting long enough for Natsuo to apologize, or just bury the issue without resolving it only for it to come back up.
This is why I keep saying that Rui's breakup was not genuine,
I noticed a pattern with her when there is a situation that she doesn't like or she wants Natsuo to do what she wants
-First she runs off, prompting Nat to go after her and away from the situation.
-When Natsuo finally catches up, she punishes him
-Then she will apologise.
This has been repeated in some manner throughout the manga.
The breakup was merely her forcing him to do as she wants with regards to Miyabi.
She saw how long it took him to get over Hina so she has to know that if she comes back by the end of August she can convince him to try again.

Rui is a selfish, manipulative, calculating character who never really had to face the consequences of her actions.

Chef, pls

Rui have
>Her job, her father, friends,cute love interest..
>Gives up her boyfriend and she is happy like fuck, no remord
Hina have
>Nothing
>she gives up her job,her home, her mother for Natsuo's sake.. She still a big support to him when he needs it.

You knows deep down who deserves to win

based

cringe

>Love

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I can't wait for Nat to find out about the rings.
Ruifags will be on suicide watch!!!!!!

>Ruifags will be on suicide watch!!!!!!
>will be
Mate, most of them have already killed themselves. Rest are still on suicide watch.

On here sure. But they congregate on discord and reddit circle jerking each other. Funnily enough Sasuga actually replies a lot to the discord on twitter.

>Sasuga actually replies a lot to the discord on twitter
Source

They're just coping on discord.

Check her fucking twitter replies you monkey.

So if Rui wins she'll return to Japan (which would happen anyway at the end of her one year contract in NY, you would think), but she will have earned a spot at her father's next restaurant rather than people assuming she got it by family connection (which is how she did get her start).

Anyone dumb enough to be a Ruifag after the stabbing incident only have themselves to blame.

Well as you've stated, she was sent to NY to get the qualification to work in the new restaurant anyway so I guess it's like the cherry on top the crepe. She'll have bragging rights but she works in her dad's restaurant so the nepotism question will always pop up.

Rui fags need to read the signs. Give it up

Just checked the Domekano reddit, and the Ruifags over there are screaming victory to the point of being absolutely certain that Kajita has no chance, she'll win the Natsuobowl and ""mop the floor"" with Hina, downvoting every single person that tries to say they still think Hina has a chance.
At this point, I'd love to see their ""Angel"" Rui that is perfect and can do no wrong willingly jump Kajita just so they can eat their words.

Who cares what those on reddit think?

Yeah I know, just bumping really, it's just boring now, I mean I still prefer chill threads like this to those were waifufags sperg at each other using the same arguments for hours, but almost every new thread just ends up dying with barely any discussion now, anime really killed the threads I guess.

I will post again

Chapter 73

Nat is not wearing the ring Hina gave him.
Thus he is wearing Rui's ring.
Thus Rui is endgame.

/thread

Honestly speaking I would not want to wear those rings considering all the suffering that came after and also Natsuo is now an adult.

Is Chef and Rui endgame?

>Natsuo changed Rui
>now Rui thinks she can do the same
ehh

Most likely. Everyone will get a happy ending according to Kei, and the only happy ending for Hina is ending up Natsuo, which is why she’s going through all this suffering. It just cements her main heroine title even more.

Mental illness.

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I don't think "happy ending" simply means everyone has a mate at the end. Also I think Fumiya would die happy for even a single day with Hina.

I HOPE TRUCK-KUN WILL MEET CHEFBOI AND SAVE THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

are Ruifags really this delusional. Rui is going to lose. Sasuga is already preparing chefboi to be there when her heart is broken after Natsuo picks Hina.

Rui a shit and a slut!

>I don't think "happy ending" simply means everyone has a mate at the end
it doesn't. Miyabi is proof. she loved, she confessed, she failed, and she still wants to be friends and has started to move on.

It makes me realize just how much Better Miyabi is than Rui. When Rui found out about him and Hina, she slapped the cripple and decided to hate him. then she did it again when Natsuo chose Hina over her.

Miyabi gets rejected, she takes it like a champ, allows it to hurt her, cry over it, and starts moving on ASAP.

just goes to show how ingenuine Ruis love is. Just like the girl who stalked the literature teacher, she turns to hate when the object of her obsession dosnt want her.

did rui get chef'd yet?

to be fair, i felt simular to Rui still wanting to be with Natsuo again this chapter.
Like damn, she breaks his heart when he's already despressed, leaves him to deal with it on his own and now that he's happy again she wants him back?

Like damn, i know Ruifags are childlike and overly bias but why would anyone want to be in that sort of relationship where the SO just ditches you like that? i dont get it.

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post it all you want, its the reasoning of a child and only you take it seriously. even die hard rui fags on discord and reddit admit its nothing to go on

How many layers of irony is this thread drenched in?

Both which even Rui would refer to as her old self. Still, having broken up with Natsuo (in an utterly cruel way given how she still occasionally handles relationships) I wonder if her own self-improvement personally will be able to overcome the previous (constant) selfishness. Because right now it feels like Chefboi will end up being the big stick to whack Natsuo a few more times as Rui "accidentally" plays selfish once again.

>and now that he's happy again she wants him back?
Missing him isn't the same as wanting him back just because he's happy. The feelings are still there because the breakup was sudden. Nat acts the same way reading her article until Hina reminds him that cake is waiting.

everything you said is exactly why people turn to Hina over Rui. there are actually former Ruifags who turned to Hinafags because they realize Ruis actions when they re read the story and realize how much she either fucks up, takes advantage and how she is never blamed despite being the one who causes the issues.

only the most hardcore Ruifags will ignore all that and pretend that theres nothing wrong with her and that she deserves to be with Natsuo. they dont even care she's the main reason for all her own sadness and pain, and that shes caused Natsuo and Hina pain as well.
At least Hina knew it was shameless of her to think Natsuo would be happy to see her again when they met up after the breakup. Rui has no shame at all, even after abandoning him at the worst time.

Natsuo hasn't shown any clear signs of having feelings for Rui, but for Rui the way she looks at the picture of him and thinking of him and going back to Japan suggests she wants him back. also she told Alex she still does a few chapter ago, which is why he dosnt make a move on her.

So it looks like Natsuo is moved on and is happy for her at least. i just hope Rui does the same soon and that Chef isnt used as some tool for her to use to make Natsuo jealous. Chef literally has done nothing wrong and deserves happiness for looking out for his family.

>I wonder if her own self-improvement personally will be able to overcome the previous (constant) selfishness
hard to say if she's even developed at all. It would of been a start if she apologized for the way she handled it or showed some guilt for her actions. how can she be a better person if she cant even acknowledge her own failings?

>Chefboi will end up being the big stick to whack Natsuo a few more times as Rui "accidentally" plays selfish once again.
i dont get the reference. are you saying Chef will make Natsuo jealous or make him move on from Rui?

>hugs
Yeah right

Rui could do the wishy washy act on Chefboi that she yells at Natsuo for (and a common trope of these series) which then leaves Chefboi confused/attempting to act which naturally Natuo witnesses/hears about/etc. Each would be a dagger because a wishy washy Rui means she would (unintentionally since she's unaware of how selfish she acts) keep hurting Natsuo leaving him open to Hina's comfort as "big sis." So Chefboi is a the big stick to keep whacking Natsuo with.

I think 'm a Ruifag.
I mean, I admit that Rui is a shit, but fuck, I just can't get over almost 100 chapters full of cute, loving, and wholesome chapters of Natsuo x Rui, even if the relationship itself wasn't that good of retrospective.
It reminds me of how I felt after a breakup with a crazy bipolar girl, remembering all the good moments as if I were to ignore that she was fucking unstable.

And I hate chefboi because I feel NTR'd, but being logical, it would be better for Natsuo to get with Hina for once and avoid more bullshit.

Only the first few of those 100 chapters had any wholesome shit. It turned to shit right after. The retard Rui even got jealous of the pignosed girl and behaved like a bitch during that arc.

true, but no need to hammer the fact on the user. he's the only kind of Ruifag i can stand since, despite saying Ruis a shit, user can still admit to preferring Rui because of the good parts about her while admitting the relationship was bad and Rui has issues.

Its one thing to hate Ruifags who make shit up and shit on Hina for the hell of it, while ignoring all story points and replacing it with fanfiction. But i cant hate on Ruifags who can admit her faults and like her soly on their personal preference. Especially if they think HinaxNatsuo is the best choice.

Sasuga Kei is getting less and less subtle every chapter.

YOU LOST RUIFAGS

COPE

>protects rui
>he's touching rui! I'm so mad!

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> cute love interest

Oh user....

Chef will get cucked by Natsuo once and for all. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

What if chef ends up with hina

It's time to sleep user

there's always a chance, not like the manga is a rush to end

It means that Sasuga Kei, her editor and the assistants were on drugs.

What if all of this was a fever dream

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Really? This chapter once again confirms that Hina will never make a move. Natsuo will be the one to confront her after possibly finding the rings and getting hints from someone like master or Fumiya. This has been building up for almost 150 chapters now. Rui will probably play her cards before.

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Knowing this manga, the next real moment of drama is going to be double confessions. Hina still has feelings for him and so does Rui. In both cases of getting rejected, Chef is going to go for rebound Rui and Hina is going to go get drunk about it. The best case scenario is for Natsuo to get into a coma and die.

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Hina is never gonna confess user.

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I seriously doubt the manga is going to end without a proper end to that plot-line. Someone's going to do something about Hina's hidden love.

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It needs to come from Natsuo to make a point.

Natsuo is probably gonna find the rings and some hints from others.

I'm guessing it's gonna be something like Natsuo has to take drunk Hina to her room and he spots the rings and goes
>!

That shit will happen after Hina helps him get back to writing to cause maximum drama possible.

Nah. if anything this will probobly the arc that turns Rui away from Natsuo for good.

i'm guessing the old man planned this because he still dosnt know Rui and Natsuo broke up, and when Rui tells him she'll also explain about Hina and Natsuo to him.

Give it up. Chef is Rui's endgame.

i'm guessing he'll fall in love with Hina again naturally, either because of just being happy in general with her, some special romantic event, or because he gains his ability to write again and realizes how his feelings to Hina where linked with his dream.

Then we have snippets of both of them being in love but not knowing that the feelings mutual, ensuring neither makes a move as arcs and other developments happen. This is likely because Natsuo still believes in Hinas lie of 'never wanting to get together again' which is why he moved on and Hina holding back because of Rui like she has been doing.

Then Rui comes back and irons out their issues with each of them, telling Natsuo the truth or telling Hina not to hold back anymore. its more likely she'd tell Natsuo the truth since there's no point getting back together with him if the same issue will plauge her, also its sets up Natsuo still holding back because he dosnt know if Hina still loves him or not. Then he sees the rings and boom, destiny achieved.

>natsuo protects hina
>kajita protects rui

Sasuga Kei is fucking spelling it out loud to the readers.

As for Rui, i think that, while she wont fall in love with Chef this arc, that he might confess and she starts seeing him in a more romantic light.

If Chef wins and goes back, it will leave Rui thinking about both Natsuo and Chef and when she comes back, she realizes she no longer sees Natsuo romantically and after sorting things out, goes to find Chef.

If Rui wins, Chef will probobly confess but feel like Rui still loves Natsuo and confesses more to get it off his chest than to be accepted. Rui goes back to Japan, sorts things out with Natsuo but realizes both she and he have moved on, and she's greets Chef when he gets back.

If neither win and both are stuck in America, then i dont think Chef will confess and the two will just develop getting romantic as slowly and Hina and Natsuo currently are.

>All this suffering is just massive winner flags for Hina

Wait until stabber-kun comes back.

locked in jail. he aint doing shit

He'll come back, the foreshadowing is there.

>LMAO, Ruifags on suicide watch
They still exist? I think DnK thread has been Hinafags hugbox for years now?

>The disappointment in her eyes when Nat decided to pick up the phone
Fuck you dorobo Neko.

literally nothing to forshadow it.
The only forshadows in the story are for NatsuoxHina and RuixKajiba.

The only "foreshadow" you get is that stabber expected not to go to jail because he thinks he's innocent. Hina, Natsuos, the ex fiance, the parents and eye witnesses all testified and now he's behind bars.

he answered and talked like Rui was an old friend he hadn't met in a while. but i can see why Hina and Ruifags would think otherwise. going back through it, he really looks like hes talking to an old friend than a love interest.

What does the stabbing incident have to do with anything? Hina is a shitty sister and Natsuo got stabbed against his will.

>This much delusion in a single post
Don't do drugs user.

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Too good to not be a falseflag.

Sasuga Kei will bring him back to stir up shit one way or another.

Oh boy. Is it time to witness more Hina suffering. Her face this chapter just sucks. Kei is really pissing me off with the way she treats Hina

Are you implying that the suffering won't make her win better?

>teehee if I go back to Japan I can just take him back even though I broke up with him

I swear to God if that thought seriously crossed her mind I'm absolutely done with her character.

this manga is shit hope MC won't get any girl

or girls won't get anyone

Chef's too good for Rui. Rui deserves truck end.

Kinda obvious it did. Even after the phone call shes suddenly happy as shit
Then she realises she can go back to Japan early. It's obvious she wants to do so

It's not a guaranteed win though. Kei could asspull and find some other way to make Hina "happy". I say "happy" as I know she cant be happy without Nat but I've been burned too many times to trust authors.

Plus there is some falseflag around

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>Sisters sandwhich when?!

>It's not a guaranteed win though
Hina is the one who kept his manuscript when he chose to throw it away. Sasuga Kei keeps making a point week after week about the obvious hina end. Even now she's putting Hina in a Aki position.

The whole fucking subreddit is like that. Its fucking cancer.

Ruitards only read Rui chapters. So they don't see the bigger picture. Nothing new here.

Lol, trully delusional.

Funnily enough I think Kei does, maybe. She replies to the discord often which, let's be honest, is the subreddit. Wouldn't surprise me if she lurked there like the hack she is.

This will turn into gold when it ends.

You gotta hand it to Ruiniggers though. This much delusion requires dedication.

Rereading and I gotta say inspite of Rui's bad qualities really doing more harm than good to Nat and her I did really like seeing them as a couple but everything with Hina was so pure. HINA NEEDS THE FUCKING WIN GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. MAKE ME SHED A HAPPY TEAR FOR HER FOR ONCE. PLEASE.

Check the comments for the new chapter. Fucking wow the niggers are popping off.

Honestly that’s why I think endgame will be rui, with Hina finally moving on in life. Discovering something she loves, maybe even going back to a teacher and finally moving on from Nat.

Hina has been in such a bad place for basically the entire series that her getting Nat can’t just be her resolution. She needs to do more with herself. But at the same time I guess that’s one thing I always liked about Hina, how she always put on this mature facade when really she is the least mature out of everyone.

>Discovering something she loves
That's not happening. The manga hasn't been building up to that at all. Instead it's been building up to Hina being honest with herself. She will finally figure out that her happiness can only be by Natsuo's side.

>dedication
Self persuasion and ignoring important chunks of narrative on purpose.

Hina is a perfectly functional individual. She rebuild her life with persuing a new career path since returning. Also, she is quiet mature as well. Even after the Nats breakup. She never once made a move, knowing that it's not the right thing to do. She cares about Natsuo as an individual than as a lover. She has always put his future before her own feelings. If anything that's what makes her win more obvious.

Hina is the most mature of the main three. Lying to your love on his face with such conviction and going down that path irrespective of the unending suffering isn't something an immature individual can accomplish.

>Discovering something she loves
Sasuga Kei hasn't hinted at the story going there in any way whatsoever. If anything, she's doing the complete opposite, Natsuo is the thing she loves, this is her statement, it's about her/them overcoming the odds. This is the difference between Rui and Hina, Natsuo loves both so the idea of loving one over the other isn't the point, the point is that no matter the amount of love they put into it Rui and Natsuo doesn't work, on the other hand Hina and Natsui does work, but they are kept apart because of all kinds of drama that need to be overcome.

>Hina has been in such a bad place for basically the entire series that her getting Nat can’t just be her resolution
Sasuga Kei had many opportunities to have Hina move on through the manga and she still chose to cut away any other possible outcomes for her character that isn't getting with Natsuo.

>rui gets excited to go back to japan
>natsuo appears next to her face

Yeah hang it up Chefboiardee she doesn't want you.

>the oldest is the most "mature"
>the oldest who is literally the second most naive person in the series is the most mature

lmao, she literally has no excuse not to be the most mature, and she still isn't.

>ruitard talking about maturity

Even as a low tier bait your post is shit.

She looked more anxious than excited.

Are ruitards really this retarded? He barely talks to Rui before handing over the phone to Hina. Didn't seem like he was longing for her at all.

user isn't reading the same manga as you.

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How do you guys manage to read such garbage?

Did rui just wish him happy birthday off panel? Sasuga can't even be bothered anymore.

thats not forshadowing. its fan fiction. Literally nothing to suggest it and no way for him to get out of jail. if anyones in danger, it'll be Rui for pissing off the racists dweebs or Chef boi whose willing to protect her from them.

pisses me off how she never suffers for her own actions. instead its Natsuo and Hina who do, and Rui runs and waits long enough to get them to make things better.

>racists dweebs or Chef boi
Rui's gonna get dicked by one of them, isn't she?

as soon as they get an inch, they delude themselves to thinking its a mile.

thats how most normal people feel and first time readers.
its when you binge the second and third times you realize how shit Ruis is and how deserving Hina is.

They're worse than religious nuts at this point.

I have nothing against Hina, but I really want Rui and Nat to be together at the end. "muh first love" stories are really boring

All this Hina suffering is just going to make her inevitable win that much sweeter. Natsuo doing the chasing during the last round is what Kei is building up towards. It's obvious.

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i dont think so. bet i think they're being set up to be a danger like stabberkun was.

Natsuo is Rui's first love. She will now find solace in Chef's cock.

I doubt she will do a stabbing again, but a rape is probable. Sasuga pussied out with Alex. This time she should go all the way.

>"muh first love" stories are really boring
You do realize Natsuo is the first love of Rui, right? Are all you Ruitards on the spectrum?

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he is clearly talking about the natsuo because he is the MC, are you retard or what?

>"muh first love" stories are really boring
That's why Sasuga Kei had Natsuo and Hina broke up early on. Also Natsuo is Rui's first love, which means that your statement is built upon retarded double standards. This is also one of the reasons that poisoned the relationship between her and Natsuo by the way.

So you're not ok with Natsuo ending up with his first love, but it slides with Rui? Ok.

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even if it is, i still worry that Sasuga will pull a 'game of thrones' style ending where everything is forced, the build ups mean nothing, and the least deserving character gets the iron throne. its their whole 'anything can happen' argument. and since that is actually true and im not biased or as dismissive as Ruifags, i actually have to admit that things like are not impossible, despite all the Hina flags and tropes she has. Even if dismissing most of Hinas parts will result in bad writing and story telling, if it can happen to game of thrones, who knows?

fortunately, i do find comfort in that Sasuga has said her story was made with a plan and has stated that everyone gets a happy ending. its clear Rui can be happy with Chef, but Hina only has happiness with Natsuo, and Natsuo had 'perfect happiness with Hina who currently holds the dream we know he fulfills.

still, being a hinafag is suffering, and its worse knowing that before she does win, we have to shift through all the Rui shit first, the same shit that suggest she could still win just like Miyabi seemed to have a chance in her arc.

yes, because this is his story.

Double standards help selling half baked, biased arguments.

So he is just self inserting then?

>double standards are fine because I said so
Can you at least pretend to be a retard? You're giving Ruifags a bad image.

I, for one, wish we could have more Momo chapters.

I don't think the novels will have such a shitty ending.

I hope Rui loses. If she's thinking of coming back to Natsuo after breaking up with him then she will confirm her status of worst girl. I'm rooting for chef in this one, I'm sure he will ask Rui out if he wins.

>he is
Why are you defending someone else's retarded argument?

>even if it is, i still worry that Sasuga will pull a 'game of thrones' style ending where everything is forced, the build ups mean nothing, and the least deserving character gets the iron throne.
I don't see why you would believe this. If you read the manga, without any waifufagging or bias, it's clear that it's all building up to a Hina end with Natsuo doing the pursing in what could be called the final round/climax of the manga. There's a reason why Hina won't make a move, there's a reason why Chef isn't being treated as a throwaway or joke character like say Miyabi was, and the reason is obvious. As I said, all this suffering is just going to make her win sweeter. Not to bring up different manga, but Masamune and Nisekoi are two other series where the main heroines were going through a hard time during the last round of the manga, only to have the MC pursue them and confess.

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>i still worry that Sasuga will pull a 'game of thrones' style ending where everything is forced, the build ups mean nothing
Terrible analogy, the people running the show parroted someone else's work before doing their own thing while revealing their lack of ability to understand what the author was doing on top of their lack of writing talent. Sasuga Kei has been completely consistent with the way she's been building foreshadowing and developments.

>its their whole 'anything can happen' argument
This argument only applies to the how to get there, not the destination. The characters themes and their arcs are clear.

im not sure if the first love thing is what poisoned Ruis relationship with Natsuo. it may be a factor but one of many.

People say its the prime factor because she was immature and underdeveloped, but re reading its clear the guilt she felt made her fearful and caused her to run all the time, not the immaturity or her youth. and no matter how much she develops, unless she either admits the truth to Natsuo or decides to bury it, she will just do the same things over and over. and despite her flaws, she still has too much of a conscience to just bury the truth.

Folks also say Natsuo was immature and underdeveloped as well, but with Hina he was far more responsible and eager to do and confront the necessities to be with her as long as she wanted to be with him too. it can be said he was rash and impulsive, but then, it was only because they where forced apart that they broke up. i doubt they would of broken up by choice.

So the issues always layed with Rui. not because she didnt know what she was doing or how to be in a relationship, but because what she did to start it was dirty, the truth she knew and knowing what Natsuo would do if he knew it too scared her, making her unwilling confront it and made her fearful or someone else doing the same thing.

I second this. Momo is a great character

And this makes the argument any less of a misguided double standard because?

I also think that it will be something around this. We might have some NatsuoxHina based on their recent interactions, but it will be different from the first time, mostly because Natsuo has changed a lot over the course of the years. If anything, Rui might even have a thing with Kajita, but it's definitely temporary. I can easily see Hina playing the "mature adult" role again and dropping off if she thinks that Natsuo and Rui should be together.

You expect an answer from a Ruitard? They make retarded arguments and then they slowly ghost away when their arguments are refuted.

>I can easily see Hina playing the "mature adult" role again
Which is exactly why the ending you described won't happen since it's yet again Hina not being honest with herself.

>but it's definitely temporary
Not at all. Kajita is being developed as Rui's fallback. In case you didn't notice Sasuga hasn't developed any fallback for Hina. That should tell you where the story is headed.

Where Natsuo and Rui stand is clear, it's not that the relationship isn't working because they are lacking love, it's because they can't make it work, they don't know how to make it work, and worse of all they never tried to put the effort to fix the issues.

Natsuo and Rui broke up, see how after that, they both managed to grow healthier? It's easy for them to interact with each other now when nothing is at stake, but the moment they try to go back to a more intimate relationship, it will fall apart again, and that's because they never worked together at fixing what was wrong.

>Kajita is being developed as Rui's fallback. In case you didn't notice Sasuga hasn't developed any fallback for Hina. That should tell you where the story is headed.
B-b-but Hina will end up alone because having a romantic ending isn't necessary even though romance plays a huge role in the story!!

Ruifags actually believe that though.

The arguments ruifags are coming up with are completely alien to the way Sasuga Kei is building up the story. They're either not reading the manga right or not reading the manga at all.

god i hope not.

its more to do that i always try to have an open minded and acknowledge the possibilities. a shitty ending with shitty writing being one of them. also, its taking FOREVER for Hina to be happy.
but i guess that just amplifies how Hina is endgame since, if she got an arc or more focus on Natsuo falling for her again, it would cheapen the drama of them getting together.
but god damn, its like i wont stop questioning it until the story has actually ended and she and Natsuo are together.

fortunately, the arguments Ruifags make are all complete garbage and can be easily disproven.

i agree. Sasuga has a style of writing thats consistent. anything that will happen is consistently promoted and troped upon several arcs, Just like how Rui and Chef will like each other and date.
but knowing the possibility that it can all be F'd up gets me on edge sometimes.

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i think she gets 2 extra chapters with Rikon. they did so much better than Rui and Natsuo, just goes to show how shit Rui and Natsuo are together

Ruifags have nothing narratively, which is why they have to grasp and reach and cling to OOC scenarios that make no sense with the actual story we're getting. Even Sasuga just stated on her twitter that while Rui got most of the reader support in the past (no doubt during the period that she was going out with Natsuo) readers seem to now by split between the sisters meaning the popularity they use to brag about is no longer a thing. Ruifags literally have nothing but their (deluded) headcanons, whereas Hinafags have the manga.

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i agree with almost everything except the
>they never tried to put the effort to fix the issues.

because Natsuo literally did everything. He gave Rui the 'trust me' watches (she never trusted him and gave it back)
then said to tell Hina about them dating so Rui wouldnt be scared of Natsuo going back to Hina (didnt work, she was always scared and even made Hina promise not to make any moves on Natsuo before she left),
had "the talk" and admitted that he wanted a serious relationship where they could be married one day (she then implemented the 1 date a month rule which made things worse)
and gave her the moon necklaces (that he dosnt wear and Rui only wears for luck)

so It was more Rui who never did anything to help the relationship. And held Natsuo to a higher standard than herself since she would bite his ear off about Miyabi but always refused to talk about Kiyabi.

Also, i should add, that Natsuo admitted that his love for Hina was different than his love for Rui. so maybe that was also a factor since he's moved on so easily from Rui but it actually took Hina lying and crushing him to force him to move on? i duno.

>its taking FOREVER for Hina to be happy.
Which is why she'll win. This is going to end with Natsuo picking her, chasing her, and declaring those three big words. The two lovers that couldn't be together due to the taboo nature of their relationship will now be able to grasp their happy ending the second time around. All this suffering and all the inevitable upcoming drama when Rui returns is just going to make the Hina victory that much better.

Yea, Ruis popularity took a dive after the breakup. some dropped the manga while others who re read the series would joined the Hina ship because they realized all of Rui faults since they knew what would happen and everything she did to mess things up.

also, i think there was a tweet a while ago that Hina merchandise kept selling out while Ruis merch wasn't. and now Hina has an official figure. not the look i'd use but it still suggests her popularity is enough to make her a figure before Rui. hard to say since i rekon Rui will get one by default.

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Natsuo tried but obviously he didn't try hard enough. Breaking up was the final blow, it was the time to stand up and fix things together, he certainly didn't object hard enough to get the point across. There's no narrative where they get back together and fix everything with the power of true love.

i agree. i dont know whats worse. seeing the Hina suffering, the small parts suggesting Natsuo wont choose her, or Ruifags claiming victory everytime they get small glimmer which ends up being mundane when you actually think about it.

As a Hinafag, I'm not worried nor am I sad since I call tell where this is all heading.

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Sums it perfectly

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well, Natsuo certantly tried harder than Rui did. Hell, Rui considered breaking up with him twice before she actually did.
as for not objecting hard enough, i think your right. he did start with objecting but Rui said that even he knew he wasnt happy with her and that she couldnt help him with writing.

I dont think there is anyway for Natsuo or Rui to fix anything. Fixing with true love is what Natsuo and Hina had/have, and since their relationship was perfect, theres no way theyd breakup unless forced.
Marie has noted that Rui is obsessed with Natsuo, while also stating that Hina is in love with him.
Its why i don't understand why Ruifags even want Natsuo and Rui together. how do they even think that the second time will be better? do they seriously think love is enough for Rui and Natsuo?

If they like Rui because of personal preference and her looks, then fine. but wanting her back with Natsuo? what for? its just a trainwreck waiting to happen.

wish i had your confidence. seeing you fellow hina fags sets me at ease with the reminders for what Hina has going for her.

how odd that the asshole of the internet is where i can actually talk to sane people about this.

>well, Natsuo certantly tried harder than Rui did

Duh, Rui is the one who broke up without even trying anything.

>Fixing with true love is what Natsuo and Hina had/have
In this story it's not a matter of fixing anything with true love, Sasuga Kei's point is that while you do need love, you need more than just that for things to work. Hina and Natsuo work very well together, which I guess is part of the reasons Rui was insecure the whole time, they only need the will to get there.

>but wanting her back with Natsuo
They're self inserting as Natsuo. They don't really want what's best for Rui.

>seeing you fellow hina fags sets me at ease
Don't do that stupid hugbox shit, that's what ruifags are doing while shitting up everything in the process, just read and enjoy the damn manga.

Ruifags want her to win for three reasons.

>gloating rights that their choice won the MCbowl
>they want their girl favorite to be happy and believe Rui can only be happy with Natsuo
>self-inserting as Natsuo

>They don't really want what's best for Rui
They want what Rui thinks she wants (for now), which doesn't mean is necessarily the best for her.

I don't think so. If that were the case, they would accept a chefboy ending when Rui chooses him. But they all collectively hate the chef.

Cause Chef isn't the MC of the manga. Bragging rights play a huge role in a massive waifufagging.

Rui hasn't moved on from Natsuo yet. The moment she does, they'll hate her.

That's my point. They are just self inserting.

Is GE any good if I liked this? I know it's the same writer but that doesn't mean the story would catch me

It's not like something like this has been going for years

Not really, it drags a lot

Of course they're self-inserting, this is the closest they'll get to an actual relationship their entire lives.

Rui a shit

best*

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Wow I forgot how much Yea Forums fucking hates Rui

She's a snake that broke up with Natsuo out of nowhere. Of course Yea Forums hates her, and it's not surprising that her popularity has dropped.

Or there's just a couple hinafags mad she's been ignored for a few arcs.

Penis head.

>ignored
Where?

She went to go pursue a career in cooking. It just be like that sometimes, man. You have to leave people behind to be successful. I know Natsuo was in a bad place when she broke up with him, but she didn't do it to be a bitch. Still, I'd take Miyabi over Hina, even though I didn't like her attitude at first.

If Natsuo had been the one to break up with Rui for the exact same reasons, you would have called him based. Just admit it's because she's a girl and not because of what she did.

Fuck off, chef.

t. cancerous rui apologists

Such a WINNING chapter for Rui. Holy shit. Imagine being a Hinafag reading that chapter and still being delusional.

The biggest give away on who will win, btw, is how one girl continues to capture winning flags when she's not even in the chapter (Rui) and another gets losing flags (Hina).

>no argument
Try harder.

>same old arguments by ruitards
>expects a counter argument
fuck off newfag

>when she's not even in the chapter (Rui)
So you haven't even read the fucking chapter?

>it just be like that sometimes
Ruitards are niggers, got it.

>wishes Natsuo happy birthday off panel
>most of the chapter is RuixChef
Sasuga can't even be bothered to draw RuixNatsuo interactions anymore.

I legit think Hinafags are illiterate. It's the only plausible explanation for these threads.

I wouldn’t call him based, and she didn’t break things off for her career. She broke up with him because she didn’t want to make an attempt at fixing the clear issues at hand. It was always Natsuo trying to do the fixing, and Rui thinking a kiss or sex would be enough to make their relationship last. Rui x Natsuo ended cause of problems whereas Hina x Natsuo ended due to Hina wanting to protect his future thus resulting in her having to end their taboo relationship.

Rich coming from you. Rui has Chef who is her fallback. It’s clear that Hina is winning.

>Ruifags don't even read the manga
>calls others illiterates

>first interaction between Rui and Nat after more than 20 chapters
>barely one panel of dialogue before Nat hands over the phone to Hina
>winning flags

>one page*

And that barely one panel showed that these two are better not being together cause they simply don’t work in the romantic sense.

Exactly. They are so much happier now that they aren't in a relationship.

And you fags still don't have a good answer.

Hina does have a job and some friends though...

You're too dumb to know a good argument. Rui abandoned Natsuo as soon as she couldn't handle the stress. She is a pathetic excuse for a girlfriend.

Stress is actually a good reason to end a relationship. The break up was the best thing to happen to both of them. I don't hate Rui for that and I don't want her to win, either. I just think it's unfair to blame her for the whole thing.

>it's unfair to blame her
Only if you have low expectations. She didn't even try to make it work.

>Winning

I don't care one way or the other which bitch gets Natsuo but why does everyone always consider getting the mc "winning"? Like look at this manga. Rui can end up with a successful, sensitive chef who is going places, or Natsuo who is a wimp and constantly struggling with issues related to his future or his relationships. If I was a chick I'd probably want to end up with the chef, not Natsuo.

How is it unfair? Natsuo was the one trying to do majority of the fixing. Go back and re-read certain parts of the manga. I just see her in a worse light since she ended things when Natsuo was already down in the dumps.

She let him free to grow knowing he would come back a better man, and herself a better woman. Now emotionally mature enough to handle a healthy relationship til death do them part.

Hina and Nat never had a healthy relationship and Hina refuses to grow. She gives him space thinking he will grow into her. Refusing to acknowledge she was a significantly reason why their relationship would never work in the long term.

All Hina does is sacrifice. She never improves. Rui sacrifices and improves.

How dense do you have to be to not see this?

Pretty sure Natsuo is gonna make way more money once he becomes a successful writer which we know he will.

What did Rui sacrifice and how did she improve? We have no way to tell she did the latter unless they get back together.

He'd be fucking dead if it wasn't for the bartender. It was other people that helped him move forward and brought his smile back. Rui did fuckall. If they can't become better versions of themselves while supporting each other, then they don't belong together.

How dense do you have to be to not see all this Hina suffering is just setting up for her win? Fucking hell, Sasuga has been doing nothing but showcasing Hina being an angel who’s quietly pushing her pain aside. This is all going to end with Natsuo pursing her and being the one to start things again. It’s gonna be her reward.

Timing matters. Especially when you're talking about 17, 18, 19, 20, year olds (I forgot how old they were when they first met). Both Nat and Rui are still in the process of discovering who they want to become. Maybe Hina is fine with who she is, now already lived like 3/4s her life entering menopause. That's fine. But all that means is she is incompatible with the current version of Nat. And likely will remain so. Having to improve will being together is such a bullshit idea. They were in two different worlds (Nat obviously in college and Rui in the workforce). It's not like two lovestruck college kids living across from the dorm of each other. You're too simple minded or lack life experience. Maybe both.

>Maybe Hina is fine with who she is, now already lived like 3/4s her life entering menopause
So you're just shitposting. Why bother writing everything else when no one is gonna take you seriously anyways?

Rui wasn't the reason Natsuo was depressed in the first place. I can agree she could've done more and made sacrifices, but Rui isn't Hina and she isn't as selfless. We've known Rui was different from Hina from the start. I'm not saying I liked what Rui did, but I don't hate her for it. Every man needs to experience a Rui at least one time in their life in order to grow.

Yeah, I take it back, I'm never complaining about ""boring"" threads dying early again, as much as it's a waste, it's miles better than waifufaggotry wars and the "sperging against each other using the same retarded arguments" autism that's going on again.

>Rui wasn't the reason Natsuo was depressed in the first place
When did I say she was?

Sasuga already stated on twitter that if a reader actually believes she hates Hina then said reader hasn't been paying attention. This was quite a while back, and clearly referring to all the suffering she puts Hina through. I knew from that alone a Hina end was inevitable, and predicted that she wouldn't make a move, which is exactly how things ended up. Suffering!Hina will be rewarded with Natsuo chasing her and declaring his love for her.

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It seems you were implying that Rui should have stayed because Natsuo was depressed. That's not a good reason to stay with someone just because you feel bad for them.

No, but you are expected to help out your loved ones when they are going through hardships. It's called being a decent human being.

No, but I still think it's messed up that she ended things when he was already in a low state. Even worse since she ends things after a date which is another low blow.

yea basically. the excessive suffering is blatant victory writing. the confession will maybe look something like this with hina bawling and finally letting her pent up emotions out.

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And somehow they still manage to read this manga better than ruifags.

If someone's depressed the only person who can ultimately help that is themselves.

Better that than ending things off via text. I would rather have someone be straightforward with me like that me.

Rui didn't make a bad decision in my opinion, but we can agree to disagree.

>If someone's depressed the only person who can ultimately help that is themselves.
You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. Seriously don't ever make friends.

>If someone's depressed the only person who can ultimately help that is themselves.
No shit. It's their life, and they need to take control of it, but supporting a depressed loved one is something any decent human being would do. Things got hard, and Rui didn't want to deal with the issues at hand. Just say what it is.

Natsuo doesn't have a disorder.

>If someone's depressed the only person who can ultimately help that is themselves

Suicide rates would skyrocket.

That doesn't matter. Support from friends and family can be the difference between suicide and recovery.

Exactly. He didn't have major depression and she still bailed when things got a tiny bit difficult . His dream is to become a writer which is means writers block is something he's going to continuously face, and Rui clearly isn't suited to be the partner of someone that goes through those lows, unlike certain someone else .

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>Especially when you're talking about 17, 18, 19, 20, year olds (I forgot how old they were when they first met).
Hina says Nat was 16 and a freshman when they met at school.