KyoAni pres. says they won't quit

They could release a 10 minute short if that's all they can manage and I would still buy it

happy to hear that, hopefully they'll rise to the top again

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Nah, they are done for. They are going to be sued to hell and back and the president would have to go for bankruptcy to save his ass

You don't have to quit in order to fail. Dead employees, survivors leaving (if not the industry, then the company), apprehensive new blood entering the industry and choosing to stay away, and just a general sense of bad mojo all around. Not to mention potential incoming lawsuits.

The studio is done.

So it was a money laundering/tax evading/insurance fraud scheme afterall.

Japan isn't America. That building was up to code with their dumb laws.

Silence doomposters, they will find a way.

>They are going to be sued to hell and back
americans everyone

>they are going to be sued
kek

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that's just some PR to not scare the shareholders.

Edgy Amurriburgers*

Even if they carry on, they won't be the same.

not those anons and Hatta's words did inspire me, but lets wait until the victim list has been released before we go thinking about whats next for their studio.

KYOANI WILL FIND A WAY
They always do!

Didn't they deserve this? The guy who did the attack said they stole his novel. I'd do the same but make sure no one makes it out.

they're not a publicly traded company, dumbass

Damn, I would have thought they’d die after this. But I guess that would give the attacker what he wanted and make other psychos think they could “martyr” themselves to take down a company what make anime they no like.

Good on them. I look forward to seeing their work on the future.

>Actually believe a schizo

some people will do anything to blame Kyoani for this

KyoAni has never received a submission from him, and he isn't awake to attempt to clarify on what he means.

But are you seriously going to trust the words of an arsonist and even if he is right that doesn't remotely justify his actions.

It will never be released. He asked police to not make it public.

"They won't quit" does not mean "they will be restored to their former selves".
The Kyoto Animation name might survive but whatever studio they become next will be nothing like the Kyoani you know.

Haruhi next season soon!!!!

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Based and moepilled.

It does justify his actions. I'd do the same thing if it happened to me but worse.

>They are going to be sued to hell and back
Yeah sure okay bro

>someone potentially taking his novel justifies the deaths of 34 potentially more people, all of which had nothing to do with the supposed "crime"
I think you're either a sociopath, retarded, or both.

lmao, no you wouldn't, you inept faggot. you're basically the shit on humanity's collective boot and the only contribution you'd ever make is killing yourself.

All you can do is produce poop in this planet, you have no value unlike some of us which is why you can't relate. You're about the same as the stain of shit in my toilet.

The amount I contribute in a year is more than what your entire family has ever done for society. Kill yourself.

>Obviously paranoid guy with violent history says company stole thoughts out of his mind
>Let’s take his word at face value without proof

And even if they did I can pretty much promise that the majority of dead and injured had nothing to do it it, you dumb edgelord.

This.
They need money and a new start. Haruhi S3 will happen now.

Kyoani deserves it and I hope another person finishes them off.

lmao c’mon m8

Shitposting doesn't count as contribution.

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>not new IP

>tfw the dust clears, they finally recover from the attack
>then another Arson attack happens immediately after permanently traumatizing them

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>shonenfags

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>he has magic IP detector in 2019

Did you come out of coma

Sure you do, bootshit.

Dumb phoneposter.

>five months later
"We quit."

I will send them mail with my shit inside of it and see how they react.

Keep crying faglord.

He literally admitted guilt publicly by not attaching the emergency fire escape stairs

Dumbass newfaggot

I really don't see how they'll recover. There is already a massive shortage of capable animators and they lost a lot of talent. The survivors had limbs amputated and were scarred for life. Everyone in the industry will think twice if they want to deal with the otaku culture anymore. There are bound to be maniacs out there who are inspired to try another attack. It's not just about one studio, I'm surprised if anime as a phenomenon doesn't dwindle after this.

Oh no, KyoAni will have to actually put effort into producing shows now instead of adapting literalwho science-fantasy chuunishit LNs nobody asked for.

He's desperate for attention

Going through the bargaining stage of grief does not mean you admit guilt. Of course he regrets not doing something that would've mitigated the tragedy, doesn't mean it's his fault that it happened.

>mfw they animate Hanako route

College K-On confirmed, need to pander for nostalgia bux to buy sprinklers and outward opening doors

It will be even better. They will become one of those tiny studios that can't make their own shows, but instead they will make frames for other studios.

I'm looking forward to the anime that PUNISHED KyoAni will come up with.

FBI!

i want KyoAni to make an anime about a cute arsonist girl.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>they all have boyfriends
except Mugi as she turned to be lesbian

Naw, it won't happen. They would only get even more hateful 'takus to burn their other building.

>he believes in magic IP detectors

How many black lesbians can there be in Japan for Mugi to eat out

Kyoani deserved it

Not a cute girl who survived an arson attempt, 0/10

This. It's disgusting to steal someone else's ideas and work. Now if you'll excuse me, I have anime to download from Horriblesubs.

>still trying
Is this season too boring for you or something?

If they design their new office well, they could incorporate the gasoline attacks into their power system. It shouldn't be too difficult to develop a large steam engine with the building's first floor as the fire place.

>After managing to move to the balcony, he jumped off to escape the smoke, suffering minor injuries to both elbows.
japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/07/21/national/kyoto-animation-arson-survivor-hints-unusual-door-roof-may-prevented-employees-escaping-blaze
Just jump.

The reality is the company will likely be done for if their insurance coverage falls short on covering civil litigation/settlements brought against them by family of the victims. Just the ongoing and lifetime care some of these poor people will require ought to be a staggering amount.

godspeed

FINDS A WAY

>replying to yourself

The IP isn't detected. It's counted. Every time you refresh the thread you get both new posts and the new number of IPs.
If the number of new posts is identical to the number of extra IPs, you know that every new post is a new poster.
If the number of IPs does not rise, then it doesn't matter how many posts were made. None of them were new.
The only problem arises when the IP counter rises, but not as much as the number of posts.
Plenty of incorrect accusations of "no new IP" are based on it. So people have to be careful with that.
Since and were made at the same time, this problem would apply to them - except that not a single new IP was counted when these posts were made. So the problem was avoided.

Japan isn't fucking, america no one is getting sued. Nowhere else in the world is sue happy America where you can pretend to slip on q a milliliter of water in a supermarket and sue the company out of business

Burn survivors are not cute.
I grew up alongside a kid who had full body burns; he looked disgusting.

>implying the employees will sue
>Oh my god how will they pay for the cost of all this free healthcare
>EvErY COuNTRy iN ThE WOrLD iS AMeriCa

Never read cillege K-On. What happens?

this isn't America.

Healthcare is not actually free. There are free items, and life preservation is covered.
But once they are stabilized they will need plenty of extra services to restart their lives. And most of those will need to be paid for at least partially.

It's more sad that someone pays that much attention to that shit when refreshing the page on a chinese imageboard.

their healthcare pricing is on a scale so it's affordable for even the poorest citizens.
Generally though it's 30/70 - with them taking the bigger cost

Imagine going to the hospital to visit your burned relative, only to find the arsonist in one of the beds near them. What do?

It's quite literally a number above your post, retard. Go back to twitter

I think Japan has limited treatment costs at 30% of cost and also added a cost ceiling each month, but I think it can accumulate because of the ceiling only being applied over a period, not a condition.

AFAIK they also don't really fund treatments for mental conditions, but I might be wrong about that one.

>refreshing
Phoneposters are second class citizens

Or maybe they just have an automated script that does all the job of fetching new posts and updating the page without having to reload the page. Damn I should design something like that, maybe with a thread watcher and a quick reply box too.

Is there any script besides native that doesn't show new IPs?

I'd curse at him or something but probably not fight the police guards.

Either way, my irrational behavior isn't really as important as a more neutral party from the government deciding on a punishment and subsequent measures (if needed later on) so no one falls victim to that person again.

The world IS America.

what could they animate for maximun profit? haruhi?

Native shows ips.

Haruhi x Hyouka crossover.

and we aren't talking about suing for a million dollars over a thumb in a bowl of chili. we're talking about people whose lives were destroyed. the CEO of kyoani wasn't directly responsible, but he had a duty of care to those who worked under him and by doing things like not installing a fire escape on the side of the building and for exercising lax security on open door days, he failed those employees who were killed or injured in this incident.

>they won't quit
So, those 34 people died for nothing then. That's really sad

No, I'm thinking of therapy and good quality prostheses etc. Stuff that isn't actually necessary to live your life but basically the requirement to get back on your feet.

Hardcore porn of all their shows, voiced by the original voice actors.

Nah, they'll probably all become anime characters in future works and have a monument placed where the old studio was at.

>It is very possible that with the next anime they'll just completely lose control over the animation work flow and go out of business with 6 episodes of QUALITY.
It absolutely isn't. They're not retarded, they'll choose a project of the right scale.

What the fuck happened to my 5 dollar donation?

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Kill at all costs.

I remember a youtube video of a Japanese guy telling the world he was a candidate for the race of American president (2008?), on the basis that since America meddled everywhere, that meant that everywhere was America, so he was an American citizen and eligible. And since Americans only counted votes from people within the confines of the USA, that meant that all the other billions of votes went to him (the Japanese guy) by default, so he basically had won already.

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This isn't some retarded boomer putting their cat in the microwave and trying to sue the manufacturer. It's massive negligence that resulted in the death of dozens.

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Nothing.

>Nah, they'll probably all become anime characters in future works
>Make anime only to become the anime

>Sumire finally gets animated
Bassed and slavepilled

If they are suing anyone, it's the police department for not doing shit when they have already received over 200 death threats in the past

Well at least they'll have something to carry on their name after death. Better than what I will have.

They won't quit because their corporation is getting tens of millions in free dollars from retarded people trying to signal their virtue.

Once again, zero dollars in donations are going to victim's families. Zero. This will only change if they're pressured on social media.

They disabled the security system. They won't get the full bill but any judge would find them partially to blame for their role in endangering their employees. The question will be to which extent.

The darker the despair, the brighter the hope that comes afterwards.

The fire department has already inspected the building and said it's up to standards. No building in the world is ready for a full murder attempt with 40 liters of gasoline.

Popularity vote =/= electoral vote.

They. Disabled. The. Security. System. Despite. Having. Received. Death. Threats.

Dude. Had. A. Fucking. Hammer. To. Break. In. Anyways.

I can't even imagine the greedy incentive asshole that would sue anyone over this.

Some people seem to desperately want this to be as bad as possible.

this - if he was locked out he probably would've just smashed the window and poured the gasoline regardless
>inb4 buh muh security cards

gotta keep those sweet sweet donation bucks flowing!

Does not matter. Insurance companies are good at legal matters because they don't like to pay you loads of money.

Well, yes, since it's all going to the victims.

You couldould say their soul burns with a fiery intensity

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you think having to hammer his way through a two inch metal door isn't going to tip off the people inside to get them to call the police? it would have sprung them into action soon enough to stop or delay him from waltzing in and dousing the stairwell at least.

then who is going to pay for the life long care these people will need? you saying they should just deal with it themselves? this isn't about making a buck, it's about seeing that these people are cared for and discarded once the bad press goes away.

The reason we're discussing the fire attack is because it's about KyoAni, which delivers anime to us.
Do you want to support random strangers?
There are plenty of outlets for that kind of urge.

Do you want anime?
Then why do you care what the families of the bereaved get?

CARLOSLOS!

0/10

*not discarded

LOS LOS LOS!

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This is nice. It will surely take a lot of time and money to get back to the point where they were, but if you give up now, then the arsonist really won.

Set fire to myself in solidarity with my wounded relative.

Victims, not just their families, and KyoAni partly consists of those victims, ya dunce.

Only proves my point. A reckless, loud attack with a hammer and gasoline would have led to far fewer casualties. He only had the time to meticulously place the gasoline and lock the exits because he could enter the building freely. They can't even argue he would've waited for another moment to strike and therefore the damage would have been the same. Their negligence simply led to a far deadlier attack.

>then who is going to pay for the life long care these people will need? you saying they should just deal with it themselves? this isn't about making a buck, it's about seeing that these people are cared for and discarded once the bad press goes away.
The state obviously. It is equally insane to say that it is the CEO who should pay for it all.
And I doubt Kyoani even currently have the money to pay for their care for the rest of their life.

>two inch metal door

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unfortunately that's not how healthcare works in japan

b-but it's the inside that counts right?

>Victims, not just their families,
With their hands amputated, do you think they are going to continue drawing frames?

>Redditspeak
Hang yourself

i'm sure everyone would have gone about their day even after the loud cacophony of glass shattering at their front entrance

>Everyone in the industry will think twice if they want to deal with the otaku culture anymore. There are bound to be maniacs out there who are inspired to try another attack. It's not just about one studio, I'm surprised if anime as a phenomenon doesn't dwindle after this.
Yeah, this is possible and probably the worst thing about all this. It's already hard to recruit new talent willing to work a lot for relatively small pay, but if it also means risking your life it'd be even harder.

A dark part of me wants to see them make a hentai, and it seems the only way they'd do this is out of desperation, so this would be the time.
Another part of me just cheers them on, though.
But still, a hentai with the KyoAni quality animation ...

Not sure "pink on the inside" extends to "crunchy on the outside" but ymmv

>It is equally insane to say that it is the CEO who should pay for it all.

Except he and whoever insures Kyoani likely will. He has already admitted and accepted fault, including PUBLICLY STATING he should have taken security and fire/disaster emergency planning more seriously.

>KYO. TO.
>EIN MENSCH BRENNT.

>It is equally insane to say that it is the CEO who should pay for it all.
If they have a legal means to pinning the blame on him, regardless of whether or not it's justified, they will use that to wriggle themselves out of the affair.
>The state
Insurance "companies" are private entities.
>And I doubt Kyoani even currently have the money to pay for their care for the rest of their life.
And how is that going to stop a lawyer?

You still seem to have the misconception that Studio 1 contained all their animators.
On top of that, there has been reports of one victim getting their legs amputates.
That's not to say some won't have their hands fucked, but at least there'll be body parts to treat and that'll cost money.

Not stealing fans' novels would have been a good practice too I guess

Does this mean theyre done with gay shit?

Can't do it on your own so you cling onto others, huh?

I don't quite understand your point. What are you trying to argue?

>including PUBLICLY STATING he should have taken security and fire/disaster emergency planning more seriously
Everyone in Japan is going to take security and fire emergency planning more seriously after this. But do you think anyone will sue those responsible for coming up with those sorts of things?

Not that it would be worth 34 horrifying deaths but that would be nice.

damn rip dragon maid s2

YES you blithering idiot. Relatives of the victim will do what's necessary to see their loved ones are cared for. That makes it NECESSARY to recover and ensure costs of care are secured.

peak shitpost.

The building complied with the fire code (and they had regular fire drills, this was confirmed by the fire department), so their insurance should deal with any lawsuits.

Maybe in 5-10 years they'll make something insane and cathartic.

It doesn't have a point. it's just keyboard diarrhea.

That we've got both new blood and directors/mentors to treat, and especially the latter is crucial for the continued survival of KyoAni as we know it.
That's where the donations are going. Not into Hatta's pockets.

>If they have a legal means to pinning the blame on him, regardless of whether or not it's justified, they will use that to wriggle themselves out of the affair.
Who are they in this scenario?
>And how is that going to stop a lawyer?
What is even the point in that case? And who is going to hire the lawyer to get those money if they aren't enough to cover it.

The insurance companies [their lawyers representing them]?
What do you think I am talking about?
>What is even the point in that case?
Insurance companies don't want to lose money. The door was unlocked when it should have been locked. That is legal speak for "you fucked up, this is all on you".
And so the insurance companies don't pay and KyoAni is left with the bills.

>Japan isn't fucking
You're right on that one.

>>you think having to hammer his way through a two inch metal door
You're going to make petite little japanese women pull open a 500 pound door?

That's moronic.

>The door was unlocked when it should have been locked.
>should have been locked.
what fucking legal argument is this

>The insurance companies [their lawyers representing them]?
Japan have nationalized insurance. Do you think the state will hire lawyers to extract money from Kyoani after this kind of tragedy?

There is absolutely no evidence that they ever plagiarized the mass murdering arsonist, not that it should even matter.

I think it's hard for us to understand the creative and economic pressures an animation studio is under, and it's easy to see how they would think that stealing a fan's novel wouldn't lead to everybody burning to death, but we are all learning together.

I think it matters if you run an anime studio and you're trying to think of things you can do to reduce fire hazards in the future.

>A reckless, loud attack with a hammer and gasoline would have led to far fewer casualties. He only had the time to meticulously place the gasoline and lock the exits because he could enter the building freely.
Did you read any of the articles? He walked in shouting DIE before he started pouring gasoline all over the place

Except for the fact that the only novels Kyoani have adapted in recent years are those from their contests so if anyone stole anything it would be the author of one of those novels that won.

Insurance companies require you to do your part in ensuring that what you are buying their insurance against does not happen.
If you have an insurance against theft and you leave your property in a public area, the insurance company will tell you to go fuck yourself. They are not going to pay for a theft that you provoked.
That's the sane scenario where everybody would agree with the company though.
More topically, if you leave your door unlocked, then that means that you did not your part in making sure that your house was safe. Therefore, the insurance company is no longer obliged to pay you.

You know, the disgusting cuck that did this only got to make Kyoani far more stronger and legendary.

Saying that fire safety doesn't matter just because arson is illegal is pretty irresponsible, user.

Alright. That would change things.

Considering the fact that there was almost certainly no plagiarism (why would you trust the word of a man insane enough to think that arson was a rational response to plagiarism?) there is not likely to be any studios can actually do differently to prevent a psycho from hallucinating some offense.

You aren't even trying, so I'll respond in kind.

in a twisted way this whole situation has been great advertising/exposure for the studio

I didn't say a single thing about fire safety, what re you talking about?

Adaptations frequently expand and add elements to the source material. I'm not a big enough weeb to know for sure whether KyoAnimes are 100% faithful reproductions of the original novels, but I doubt it.

Slice of life shit is so cut-and-paste that you could easily fill one out by incorporating another wholesale.

That's what you were replying to, though. Please try harder to follow the conversation, Anonymous.

Yes because smashing glass takes ages.
Just fuck off already, you've been proven wrong.

Today I feel a bit of hope, not enough to cure my injuries caused by self destruction. But a bit of sunshine just reached me, gracias user.

No one noticed this guy waltz in, douse the stairs and chain up the emergency exits. They sure as fuck would have noticed the sound and mess of two tempered glass windows being smashed in. Moron.

...

Two different people my dude. It's very obvious that japanese fire codes need to be revised and enforcement redoubled. I would never dream of arguing otherwise.

Please stop assuming that you can successfully pierce the anonymity veil with your psychic powers, it's disruptive to the conversation.

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so he smashes the window, pours gasoline and ignites it. Igniting gasoline does not take minutes, it's a flick of a lighter.
The only reason the employess knew about the incident at all was because of the explosion anyways, so your logic is just flawed speculations.

Why would they quit?
They are the best animators in the anime industry.
Unless the best part of their staff died in the fire.

ITT: Americans thinking the whole world works like America.

Do you even realise that Japan is not a common law system, and on that basis alone most of your intuitions about what cases could be brought and what a court would decide are completely inapplicable?

We might get some great anime in the future from punished kyoani, but this isn't just depression being channeled into art, its full-blown trauma. So maybe not.

Even knowing everything that happened I still have to say yikes

I hope Yamada takes her grief and turns it into a masterpiece

Is there still no clarity on his motive? "They stole my novel" sounds like a nonsequitor.

The solution to this problem is a mantrap entrance lobby: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantrap_(access_control)

As well as exterior fire escapes for all floors (because the next time, it could well be an employee with authorized access to the building that smuggles in a few liters of gasoline in his backpack.)

Who are you replying to?

Somebody posted screencaps of 5ch posts that could plausibly be the perp's yesterday. If that was actually him, the "stealing" was on the level of the K-On movie talking about the possibility of repeating a year when that was also a plot point in his manuscript.

>because the next time, it could well be an employee with authorized access to the building that smuggles in a few liters of gasoline in his backpack.)
Or for that matter, an art supply fire, or any other number of ways a fire could start other than arson. Fire safety needs to be implemented, not merely entrance security.

I don't agree with blaming Kyoani but I do agree with Japanese fire regulations being flawed and outdated.
Hopefully the lives lost will force their hand to make changes, but with all the old building they have across the country I have doubts.

I'm not really concerned with who gets the blame. To me, it's a matter of what needs to be done to prevent similar events. That probably means revisiting building security for high occupancy buildings, but it definitely means revised fire codes. That spiral staircase shit in particular has got to go.

etc

Uh relax, turbofaggot. If I was going to call you out for samefagging I would have called you a samefaggot.

It's possible to reply to two people for the same reason, dingus.
But I understand that you were simply trying to misdirect to save face after you failed to read.

Reminder that the violet movie is going through, lives were lost but kyoani is big enough to withstand it.
This isn't some shit tier studio with 1 or 2 dozen people.

no one cares trannies

The spiral staircase has been a huge focus by the media on how fast it spread
Think it's safe to say not many people are going to want to install them in Japan after this

The simple fact of the matter is you're a sperg who falsely accused me of downplaying the importance of fixing Japan's fire code.

Source?

Japanese animators are so devoted and passionate to their work that even limbless and crippled they will prefer to die before sueing the company that welcomed them. Even the youngest.

*suing

Point is that there is no way their government ever passed a law saying the company has a duty to maintain keycard access or take steps beyond the applicable fire code to protect their employees from an arsonist, and because this is not a common law system, an activist judge in a friendly jurisdiction can't just twist a precedent from 1780 where Lord Britbongton was away playing tiddlywinks and let a dirty Irishman set his maid's crumpets on fire to say Kyoani is guilty.

Believing 5ch rumours was such a smart move last time huh

user keeps tripping over himself to insist that the arsonist's claims were crazy and false, but why? Is this some retarded brand loyalty thing?

Firstly, the idea that he did this because they stole something is based on something a bystander supposedly overheard while he was arrested. We don't have a manifesto and it might be bullshit in the first place.
Secondly, we have no data to go on either way wrt to corporate misbehaviour.

It wouldn't excuse arson, but it isn't hard to believe. What's the motivation in wanking out excuses to "prove" that he imagined the whole thing?
For all we know at this point it might not even have been his real motivation, which would make this insistent apologia pretty goofy.

>>Point is that there is no way their government ever passed a law saying the company has a duty to maintain keycard access
Laws? Forget laws.

Cautious corporations are now going to implement key-card entry and mantrap entrances on their own, without their hand being forced by the law. Tons of businesses already do out of their own initiative, and this even is only going to make that more common.

Well, it was a joke, but you also weren't reading the reply chain you were responding to, so you're a sperg on at least three levels at this point

by all means keep doubling down though

Sure, but that doesn't mean anybody has a legal case here.

sewing*

Is it weird if I'm coping with this by becoming embolded as a moefag and taking a "They hate us for our freedom" approach?

>Secondly, we have no data to go on either way wrt to corporate misbehaviour.
Really this in particular.

"Theft" could mean anything, and we don't know what he was (ostensibly) referring to.
Inventing scenarios so you can "prove" they were impossible is weird and sad.

>>Firstly, the idea that he did this because they stole something is based on something a bystander supposedly overheard while he was arrested.
Let's assume that the testimony of that bystander is honest and accurate. What would that mean?

It would reveal that the arsonist believes he was plagiarized, or wants us to believe that. That's it. It's not evidence that plagiarism actually occurred, it's only an accusation. Where is the evidence? (Note that finding it plausible isn't evidence.)

I never said otherwise. I don't know a thing about Japanese law and never pretended to.

Nobody's arguing that though. I'm saying we might as well be neutral on the matter until we know more. Why exert yourself to handwave the claim before we even know what he meant?

Weird is relative. It's not weird in the context of Yea Forums, but it's pretty damn fucking weird by the standards of society at large.

>I'm saying we might as well be neutral on the matter until we know more.
Why be "neutral" on it? I assume innocence until evidence is presented. That seems like the more civil thing to do.

Man, not really. What he's talking about is just the exact mainstream programming that was implemented following the 2001 WTC attack.

I'm pretty sure kojima productions had 9/11 in mind specifically when they designed the kyoani false flag, so wave your moeflag proudly, user

I mean, I know that thing didn't do this because he hated moe (Though he did want to kill the entire company and wipe it off the map entirely). I've just gone into this defensive mechanism where I have these "You'll never stop or silence us, good always triumphs over evil" thoughts.

baste schizo poster

Not apologia, and I'm hedging my bets about the screencaps.
However, based on the somewhat reliable information that is out (previous robbery jail term, fat NEET, screaming fights with neighbours over noise complaints), it seems unlikely that he was the sort of person who could ever write something worth plagiarising, and the theory that he was some crazy who developed a delusion about being plagiarised fits pretty well (considering it also has precedent with that band shooting in the US) regardless of whether he was the particular crazy in that screencap or not.

>that will nurture hopes and dreams
What fucking dreams retarded shit like k-on makes people have?
>that will move the emotions of people
What people? Manchildren and teenage girls who can't think logically about the shituations and are impressed by cheap writting?
>and to contribute to society and our community
What exactly are they doing that had any benefit to society? Creating more basement dwellers? Worsening Japan's sex rate problems by creating an unrealistic, pedophiliac, and behavioral, standard?

Well, you're kinda mistaken, since the presumption of innocence is a judicial mechanism only, but if that's how you feel that's fine.

But while you're free to feel that way, making that presumption and inventing retarded sherlock holmes logic chains to "prove" innocence based on zero data are two different things.

Moe Toyota (Midori's VA) yes yes that's her real name released a statement
ameblo.jp/toyotamoe/entry-12496814577.html

I wasn't talking to you then. This thread is full of people opining about how Hatta expressing regret about not installing fire stairs means the company will be picked apart by lawyers.

>he was the sort of person
desu I find this kind of projection pretty pathetic

we don't know much about the dude personally and mental health stereotypes etc reek of reddit brainwashing

hitler was a pretty technically competent artist just btw

Reminder to pay zero attention to armchair lawyers, because even if they were real attorneys, knowledge of American or European law is largely irrelevant to Japanese law.

Americlaps and their lawsuit-happy culture plz go and stay go.

The MC never gives up

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>the presumption of innocence is a judicial mechanism only
No, it's a rational approach to getting through life. You can't prove the sort of negatives you're setting up. For instance, I can't prove that my own beloved mother is not a murderer. I don't know what she's doing right now, maybe she's murdering somebody as we speak. However, shouldn't I assume that my mother is not a murderer, until I'm presented with evidence to the contrary? Of course I should.

>yes yes that's her real name
someone please please post the anthropomorphic moe toyota fanart which i'm confident exists

>it seems unlikely that he was the sort of person

That wasn't a person that did this. It was a God damned demon sent from Hell to terrorize the innocent.

>getting this upset over cartoons

K-On inspired a lot of people to take up music.

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Lotsa projections here, do you need a hug?

>mental health stereotypes etc reek of reddit brainwashing

Have you checked Reddit recently? The corresponding threads there are all like "Hatta said they will be providing PTSD treatment, I'm so glad Japan has finally recognised that mental health is important" and "It's really unfortunate how people are focussing on the mental health angle, because now ~the stigma on the mentally disabled will increase even more~"

>hitler
hitler also had an active social life that culminated in becoming the führer of an ascendant political party and didn't just stay in his NEETcave blasting vidya and screaming at walls

>K-On inspired a lot of people to take up music
Such as?

1/10 bait

>That wasn't a person that did this. It was a God damned demon sent from Hell to terrorize the innocent.
I think you meant an anime hero that started the first step to make the industry great again

What you're saying in this post is correct, but this is actually a pretty long discussion on judicial philosophy and democratic ethics to pin down the semantic disconnect we're having.

I'm not really on the mood so I'll concede what you're saying, but you should consider:
a) the difference between a personal sympathetic opinion of guilt or innocence, vs a judicial opinion of guilt/innocence with its implication of a punishment or other consequences
b) whether there is a practical distinction between having no opinion at all on your mother's guilt, vs insisting that she is innocent
c) that a third party on the other side of the world isn't your mother, and how does this affect your thoughts on (b) when you are discussing someone else's accusations against someone else's mother, if there's no connection between your discussion or opinion, considering (a)?

And again, there's a difference between feeling a certain way and inventing baseless, illogical narratives to insist that your feeling is correct.

Me. And if it inspired a dumb gaijin to improve, then surely a lot of nips took it way more seriously than I did. Its been 10 years and I still practice every day.

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Is a security system even a legal requirement? Is there a law that specifies what type of security system a company building must have in Japan?

>Me
>dude just trust me

>The corresponding threads there are all like
It's the nature of brainwashing that you can't tell that both of those stereotypes are backhanded aspects of the same thing.

>Maybe in 5-10 years they'll make something insane and cathartic.
>proceed to make Maid Dragon 2 season

Based. Kyoanihaters going to seethe.

Reminder that the Kojima Productions trademark registration includes:

>lifesaving apparatus and equipment, namely, lifejackets and shoes for protection against accidents and fire; fire extinguishers; fire hoses; fire hose nozzles; sprinkler systems for fire protection; fire alarms;
>fire trucks; dust masks; gas masks; welding masks; fireproof garments; fireproof garments, namely, disaster prevention hoods;

The real question is whether they were somehow able to produce charred bodies, or have they infiltrated the police and emergency services in Saitama all the way up to the coroner?

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It is not a herculean task to pick up a guitar and play it. I even played violin for awhile because of Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, but it eventually became too difficult without a teacher. Guitar is ezmode compared to that.

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Sure it isn't you who fell for reddit/American pop culture brainwashing saying that people with "mental health issues" are valuable members of society and we shouldn't be prejudiced against their abilities?

>they are going to be sued to hell and back
This is japan, not America. The japanese don't profit from death, a perk of not letting their civilization fall on the pockets of jews.

You're projecting again since I haven't told you anything about my opinions on this stuff, and they're irrelevant so no I'm not going to let you change the subject by trying to make it personal.

>time heals all sorrows intesifies

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>projecting
can you define that word for me if you're going to throw it around so much

>Kojima orchestrated a whale stranding as an advert recently
>he might did the same to KA

the president and his wife are the shareholders, dumb amerimutt

Real talk, what actually happened? We might not ever know but the sooner we begin digging the better. I think Disney was involved in this. KyoAni represents what the anime industry should aspire to in terms of pay and respect for employees. The anime industry is outside of the Disney's control, and they want to own everything.

>or have they infiltrated the police and emergency services in Saitama all the way up to the coroner?
desu i think this one is probably more likely

- pyrotechnics to burn out a building are easy
- news stations will run any footage you give them when something big is happening (and smoke always looks kinda fake but that early video was pretty/cinematic as fuck)
- the weird bloody bigfoot prints with the feet facing in opposite directions in a way that looks impossible seems like an in-joke

but bodies are a stretch
meanwhile taking a couple of years to patiently infiltrate official positions is something Scientology proved is entirely possible, with style

If they come back from this I bet they'll start making some of the darkest shit they've ever made

Literally the MC of the anime industry.

Why do mutts do this? Why are you so obsessed with conspiracy theories?

Again with you faglords. Arson is not part of the criteria for protecting this particular building.

acting ignorant of a common idiom used in a conventional way so you can pretend it's being misused is a strange gambit, but let's see if it pays off

If they start making more moe shit then I hope someone burns the rest of those moeshiteaters

LOL

Nothing, sadly. And it ends abruptly.

Nah. The building probably had insurance.
They lost animators, but that just mean it will take longer to animate stuff. They always take their sweet time to animate everything, and they don't rush anything.
The Violet movie will probably be a success too, part because now a lot of people heard about it because of the fire.

Kyoani will rise again!

Changes to fire code will be made, any many companies will doubtlessly elect to improve their security as well. (Many companies have already voluntarily taken measures that would have stopped this unauthorized access to the building.)

I'm not American, but this incident was too god damn perfect for their not to have been someone helping the guy. Someone coached him. It wouldn't be the first time foreigners caused a disaster on Japanese soil, see Fukushima which was an intentional act.

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>going to r*ddit

The new building will have gasoline detectors. Walk within 50 feet of the building with more than an ounce of gasoline and you get blasted with liquid nitrogen

Vic was behind it. Wanted to take the heat off him

>he thinks a country with 120m people and top notch medical care can feasibly support 100% free healthcare, everything covered
Smooth-brain post.

i laughed when his response to his posting being compared to typical redditors was to say "pfft clearly you don't read as much reddit as me"

Good for them if they still have the will to push on. Sadly that is not enough to guarantee that they will actually succeed, but I really hope they do.

They won't pay a dime for their medical care, beyond the taxes they were going to be paying anyway.

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They said they separated the arsonist from the victims.

source

ok KID

>Maybe in 5-10 years they'll make something insane and cathartic.
>Nasu finishes rewriting the Fate route.

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youtu.be/zw47_q9wbBE?t=206
youtu.be/0b5trPeM9wI?t=91

Conspiracies are impossible, user.

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The quality of their show would probably go from kyoani to sunrise background anime characters

>conspiracy theories
A Yakuza doing a hit on the competitors isn't exactly a conspiracy theory. Lots of details here are fishy. The fact that he was there at the exact time to have the entrance open AND a studio packed of VIPs, the fact that he smashed up his PC, hell even the fact that he apparently wasn't into anime that much.

That literally happened to this one guy who shot me in the leg to steal my phone. My collegue automatucally went to try to break his face (though he was already very injured from the lynch) but him and I were quickly put into a different room.

Faggot thief still went to jail, so justice was served anyway.

We don't or won't know anything until he starts singing.

>censoring Reddit

>The fact that he was there at the exact time to have the entrance open AND a studio packed of VIPs
Research
>the fact that he smashed up his PC
Probably filled with porn and other embarrassing things
>hell even the fact that he apparently wasn't into anime that much
He was a geek who was mad about KyoAni allegedly plagiarizing his novel

>the fact that he smashed up his PC
In what possible way does that suggest yakuza?

Well said. There's no guarantee KyoAni will bounce back from this, but I'll certainly try to support them in any way I can muster l, in the the hope that they do.

Are you ask me why trying to erase your digital footprint points to the fact that you had collaborators? Use your brain user. He was trying to hide something and it wasn't his pirated windows copy

KyoAni's new chief of security

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What's fishy is that Aizukotetsu-kai, the Kyoto Yakuza (KyoYaku), hold their official meetings in a Konami HQ building which is literally adjacent to the old imperial palace.

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The moment the Yakuza is involved of this the moment the government will go full scorched earth on their asses again if they are involved.

>Research
Was this NHK visit public information? If it wasn't, I don't see how he could research it without inside help.
>was a geek who was mad about KyoAni allegedly plagiarizing his novel
Nothing points to that. He was a violent man whose childhood dream was to get rich, his favorite class at school was PE, the news said. Yeah a typical nerd.
>filled with porn and other embarrassing things
Would you smash it up? Or would you have better ideas what to do with it, being a geek? Well he didn't.

The reason why organised crime is organised is because they have their own people in the government and police.

>>Are you ask me why trying to erase your digital footprint points to the fact that you had collaborators?
It's more likely that he was trying to hide his degenerate pornography collection. I say that's more likely because degenerates are more numerous than members of the yakuza.

>his favorite class at school was PE
He must been a failed athlete and didn't live to expectations.

Thats seriously all your arguments?

>Would you smash it up?
If you're not going to be needing it anymore, why not smash it? Smashing things is fun.

Wrong the government does not want their involvement with Yakuza. If that happens then the people will distrust them leading up to a full blown civil war.

Use your brain, there are much simpler explanations.

Maybe he made dumb internet forum posts all day long and didn't want their discovery to weaken his imaginary legacy of righteous vengeance against plagiarism (if that gets confirmed) or whatever other problem it was.

Mafia hiring a man to set a competing business on fire IS a simple explanation. That happens every day all over the world. What do you expect, Kiryu looking motherfuckers in suits beating people up? This is exactly what it looks like.

>Next lunatic uses plastic explosive

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He probably planned to force entry and got lucky.

Or, if the outside door was always open with an inner secure door, he would have succeeded even with the security system.

>people doing anything about their government in modern Japan
user I...

Replace "attack" with "flood" and you pretty much have Ellicott City MD

>>Mafia hiring a man to set a competing business on fire IS a simple explanation.
The yakuza specifically and the mafia in general are not known for burning dozens of civilians alive. Lighting businesses on fire during the evening when there is nobody there to die? Sure. Getting a guy to run into the building during business hours with gasoline would be totally unprecedented. Don't pretend this is typical mafia activity.

>including PUBLICLY STATING he should have taken security and fire/disaster emergency planning more seriously
I'm pretty sure that does not make him legally culpable, nor do we even know if he actually broke any law or if Japan's fire guidelines simply aren't good enough and the building was up to spec (though still inadequate in the real world).

Think about it, Kyoani more than any other studio started to compete with idol businesses. And idols are all yakuza controlled. You think you can just compete with yakuza without being owned by yakuza? I suspect an offer was made and refused, and this is what happens afterwards.

Really? I'm not a Yea Forumsermin so I'm not familiar with the gossiping over there, but if that's true, then that explains why Konami haven't released anything worthwhile in years and only Pachinko.

In one of the myriad threads, it was reported that the roof door was locked because of neighbor complaints smokers were tossing their cigarette butts over the side of the building.

Has this myth been confirmed, plausible, or busted?

What you're suggesting is unprecedented. You seem to be under the impression that this sort of thing happens all the time. It does not.

> Mafia hiring a man to set a competing business on fire IS a simple explanation
Arguably, but really not a good idea for a mafia that wants to be around for a while.

> That happens every day all over the world.
No. It is bad for business and bad for not becoming a target for actual vengeance and the entity people will gang up on.

You don't get how to successfully into mafia. You do that more like the Vatican.

Hatta doesn't want the names to be released.
japantoday.com/category/crime/smoke-spread-so-fast-at-animation-firm-victims-couldn't-open-rooftop-door

>On Monday, company president Hideaki Hatta sent a letter to police asking them not to release the names of the victims.

>"It's not hard to imagine how painful this would be to the victims' families in their present, deep suffering," Hatta said in the letter, which was released to media.

>"We understand that this incident is attracting a lot of interest, along with the number of victims, but given the feelings of their survivors, releasing their names does nothing to serve the public good."

Based. KyoAni will find a way.

Atheishits BTFO'D.

How major politicians reacting to their death since with dwindling birthrates?

The rebirth of GodAni will be the greatest story in all of anime

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And once they have explosive sniffing dogs the maniac after that will attack with a swarm of killer bees.

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I think other threads have pointed out it was where the seniormost animators worked, and the new ones were trained. Its where the key animation was done

Amptations for burns is pretty extreme sempai, thats American Civil War stuff there.

Ironically, all that work of reconstructing fingers out of toes for yakuza might actually come in handy in this case (provided they still have toes)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributory_negligence

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I'm conflicted.

But I also respect their wishes.

>In some common law jurisdictions

Understandable

Keep up the good fight, KyoAni!

I believe in you!
Never give up!

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Moe Toyota? here you go

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What about they give the names to the families first and days later to the public?

>durr Yakuza would kill 34 animators to make an example
you're retarded. Yakuza may be scum and murderers, but not "the biggest post war crime in Japan" murderers.

I don't get why people are so surprised her name is Toyota. Why do they think Ford and Chevrolet are named the way they are? Because they were founded by Henry Ford and Louis Chevrolet respectively. Hell how many anime have a character named Subaru?

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>Kyoani more than any other studio started to compete with idol businesses
When did they do that? They have no show that is even close to being idolesque.

I’m glad kyoani won’t let go of the fire in their heart and their burning passion, and the hotshot president rises to fan the flames of redemption so that they can return triumphantly in a blaze of glory like a phoenix rising from the ashes after the studio burned down and all their animators died screaming in a hellish raging inferno as their still-living flesh bubbled off their bones like a bag of marshmallows tossed into an incinerator

the future for kyoani looks bright almost as bright as last Friday

t. flipland lawyer.

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bad taste desu

The romanization for Toyota the surname is often Toyoda, so for someone to have that surname with the Toyota spelling is kind of unique in comparison.

While Ford is still a common name in the U.S, Chevrolet is not.

As an aside, the automaker's name is actually Toyoda

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b-but

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Haven't seen a burn this sick since kyoani

>lol her name is toyota
Toyota is named after the founder of the company whose name was Toyoda, it’s not an uncommon name: they changed the ダ to a タ to make it a more lucky number of strokes, but either reading for 田 is common enough.
豊田 means “bountiful fields”

I think it's shitty to not allow the public to have closure and force them to "not know officially" even as time passes and some things become obvious.

I’m not crying you’re crying I swear

Okay, out of Moe Toyotas

>The only reason the employess knew about the incident at all was because of the explosion anyways, so your logic is just flawed speculations.

Survivor account says they heard a commotion downstairs, a man shouting, a woman screaming, then an employee come up the non-spiral stairs announcing there was a fire

>If you're not going to be needing it anymore, why not smash it? Smashing things is fun.

Adam Lanza (aka Sandy Hook school shooter for the non-Americans), pulled and smashed his hard drive because it had his extensive research on school shootings. The FBI was still able to recover things through.

There is also the Moe part.

You know smashing a hard drive doesn't necessarily preclude erasing it securely, right?

Cant draw with burned hands brah. I admire the adamant nature of the Japanese but there are limits to people

Yep, Gainax 2.0

some talents, like Yamada, got out safely/weren't there.

>talents, like Yamada
Lol.
>got out safely/weren't there.
Unfortunate

I know that, you know that, most IT guys know that.

Fortunately mentally-disturbed people do not

Did someone important die? How many people died? Who is the arsonist?

I don't know if he did or not, but I do know that "he smashed his computer" is piss poor evidence of yakuza involvement.

They are going to be fine. Many of the ex kyoani animators left and become freelancers due to lack of opportunity for internal promotion
Horiguchi, Takao, Utsumi, Nakayama, Yamakan etc just to name a few.
The kyoani style will survive, someone just need to teach and raise them again.

Fuck off faggot, stop living under a rock.

I hope people are screencapping all the naysaying in this thread. Would be interesting to see if they end up being right or wrong.

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>Did someone important die?
user, just check whose building was burned down. Of coruse noone important died.

>The kyoani style
The what?

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Fill me in, dick

You can never prove my posts were mine

A sperg murdered 34 people with fire and injured 30-some more.

Kek, I think that furfag who tweeted KyoAni characters in flames got his account suspended.

It's true, but it's a mistake to conflate yakuza with reckless western mafia stereotypes.
In the case of the kyoto mafia, it's kind of significant that they meet there because they represent the japanese deep state in a weird way. Tokyo basically only became the "capital" of japan as a smokescreen in response to western gunboat democracy: it's not like all the powerful people suddenly moved to Tokyo when that happened, and after hundreds of years of warring states prestige over Kyoto specifically.

Nintendo is also connected to them and apparently it's commonly accepted in the area that the "nin" even comes from one of the principles of yakuza code:
kotaku.com.au/2011/03/the-nintendo-theyve-tried-to-forget-gambling-gangsters-and-love-hotels/

>, "The yakuza don't think of themselves as criminals, because they argue that they are ninkyo dantai, aka 'humanitarian groups'." The concept of chivalry, or "ninkyo", is synonymous with the yakuza.
It's important to keep in mind I think... as well as when you look at photos of Aizukotetsu leadership, they all seem to be old whitebeard types in buddhist robes...

It's funny how Westerners find it literally possible to consider that two "rival" corporations could do something as trivial as hiding a "conspiracy" in their videogames (like all the Metal Gear stuff hidden in Breath Of The Wild and vice versa), yet have no problem with yakuza being everywhere. Meanwhile the Nintendo and Konami HQs are practically linked by a direct rail line.

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>building which is literally adjacent to the old imperial palace.
That's not fishy. It's doubtlessly an upscale part of town.

>there are people who think Disney isn't behind this

Imagine being this gullible.

Why would The Mouse even have a passing thought about KyoAni? They own all of western media.

>meanwhile at jump fest 2019

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>What did you cosplay?
>Kyoani HQ

A reminder to the Japs to know their place. Ghibli has long bowed down to Disney dominance. Kyoani was the second most recognized anime studio and was gaining world wide fame. Kyoani didn't know any better and was made a lesson.

Hi anons, please review my theory. I believe you are being gullible and can't see through the many smoke screens of the past week. Thank me later.

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Fuck off and kill yourself

idk man you're not very convincing with such low effort rationalisation that you're literally sourcing nothing beyond your own imagination. i mean that's a pretty white-noise contribution

i don't think it's weird that the yakuza would meet across the street from the imperial palace either though. it makes perfect sense

Are you actually expecting anyone to read all this garbage?

You literally said that it's fishy they meet there.

unironically schizo-tier

>74 people in the building
>34 dead, another 34 injured
>leaving just 6 people unharmed
>Hatta said everything in Studio 1 was destroyed
It'll take at least a decade if not longer to even partially recover. Even then, I don't think they'll ever return in the same capacity.

Imagine seeing 34 people get burned to death and thinking "yup, I'm the victim here".

Yeah, yeah, this was the most likely thing they would do. You know, muh yamato damashii, banzai and all that.

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I am only spreading what no one has mentioned. Everyone is just following reddit and MSM, but you have to luck further beyond that to find truth
I am not suggesting that. I am simply saying that in the future it is possible they will push a new agenda towards anime, the same way they have in the West with comics, cartoons, shows, etc. They always push things when convenient and when the masses are heavily invested in following it all.

i did?

>taking a trip to Guitar Center

>but you have to luck further beyond that to find truth
> luck further beyond

HOPES AND DREAM

Nice argument, I made a typo and yet you can't even dispute my claims

who said i was arguing dipshit

Just give up.

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Door was open because the firefighters could open it.

To be honest I doubt it's that bad. Kyoani had about 160 people as staff and there's animation Do as well, and then the people they were training too

Schizophrenia confirmed

It'd be one thing if it was a
gas fire or some shit but nobody is going to sue over some random nobody appearing from nowhere and blowing up the ground floor of their studio

I feel that way too. Just like they're acknowleding the killer so much, they should acknowledge who died.

fuck off with this Yea Forums meme
it's dead and cringe
have sex

sChIzOpHrEnIa CoNfIrMeD

Organized crime works a bit differently in Japan. The government and police allow yakuza to operate as quasi-legal entities, the idea being that organized crime is easier to monitor/control if you give it a certain level of legitimacy.

I never imagined the day that a meme like KyoAni Finds A Way would serve as something truly meaningful.

>They are going to be sued to hell and back
>OH SAY CAN YOU SEE

kys retard

Not cool, just like Kyoani last week

the other surviving crew should take this as an opportunity to rise up to the occasion and dedicate each future release to their colleagues

Too much conjecture and leaps of logic, go back to detective school

Kojima productions is dead mate.

idk man that's mostly common knowledge/history and there's an article with interviews sourced for the weird nintendo shit

did you mean to quote one of the actually speculative kojima posts

would it blow your mind to learn that nintendo and disney have had a low-key relationship since the 70s

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Disney is like fucking Thor besides Kyoani and if anything they would buy Toei for Dragon Ball which is already huge in the west

ALERT
ALERT
Kojima has infiltrated the mods

twitter.com/highimpactsex/status/1152933512703631360?s=19

What does a vast cross-media entertainment industry conspiracy have to do with anime, anyway?

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>freelance animators

Imagine taking someone like this seriously.

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Yes, that is definitely the biggest hole in that logic.

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>take out the suspect’s name because we don’t want to give him more attention than what is necessary
This is such a bullshit meme for lazy thinkers.
Dear Americans; people aren't running amok because the media puts their face on TV, they're doing it because the cognitive dissonance our society needs to function is cracking, the world is sick, and the list of avenues to release pressure keeps shrinking as you trip over yourselves to declare that literally everything is a sign of mental illness, censor everything, and enforce the idea that everything besides reddit-speak is an "inappropriate" form speech so we cannot process any of our problems as a group.

It wasn't DOOM and it wasn't death metal and it isn't one thing or another you can single out that the media does, and it won't be the next convenient thing you totemise, either.
You know you can't stop any of those things, so it's impossible to prove they wouldn't have magically fixed everything and can go WHYYYY DIDN'T EVERYONE LISTEN TO MY TWEETS from a position of unassailable pussitude when the next theme park gets nuked by a kid with a talking dog and have a little circlejerk, but it's bitch logic.

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The Japanese have this weird thing called honor, of which not suing people that just lost dozens of their friends and colleagues is a good example

Oh, a wise guy eh?

might not want to work there anymore what with their friends burning alive around them, bad memories and all that

Because it's more comforting to believe that bad things are the result of concerted effort by meticulous cabals than to acknowledge that sometimes all it takes to ruin dozens of lives is one lucky psycho or an unlucky accident.

at the very least we probably won’t see any of them at Burning Man for the next couple of years.

Is the culprit still in a coma?
Any updates?

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Or they would want to pay tribute to the friends they lost and with whom they shared a dream through hard work and improvement. Is not that hard. But I starting to think Americans are the most annoying people when it comes to learning to cope.

Still in a coma, yup.
Recent update would be the news that kyoani was following fire regulations properly and passed an inspection last year.

They will eventually sue them to make an example. Some heads will be cut off for benefit for KyoAni's future.

Paying tribute will not respect the dead.

He's not saying all of them would think that, christ. Some will be okay with working again, some of them will be fucking traumatized.

Japan isn't America. Even they make a fun of you with animating a grandma that sued the company because she put her cat in microwave.

how you holding up takemoto bros? is /ourguy/ gonna be found?

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what does this have to do with anything trumper

So we'll never know if the Dragon Maid director died?

>is /ourguy/ gonna be found?
The only help you'll get, you must be able to solve this.

MANGLOBE DID THiS

If a third of their staff didn't die then this would be great but it's not, they are fucked. It's like the faggots in the Syria War general who think the Syrian army will rise up like a phoenix. There's cutting your teeth and getting recognition and there's smashing all your teeth on a boulder

we've entered a new era of mafia activity

clearly hes dead at this point which is why its retarded the police wont release names

even his wife and dad dont know where he is

I know saying this is in bad taste but it'd be pretty hilarious if his wikipedia page just listed him as "disappeared" until the end of time because of this retardation

Thanks user, he'll wake up eventually.

>kyoani was following fire regulations properly and passed
this just makes it even more messed up.

At worst an obsessed otaku will stalk a member of his family around this day to find out if they visit any grave or something.

Hatta specifically requested no names be released

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JAPAN'S
TORT
LAWS
ARE
NOT
REMOTELY
SIMILAR
TO
AMERICA'S
LESS THAN 1% OF NEGLIGENCE FILINGS ACTUAL GO TO TRIAL DUE TO HOW THE LAW IS STRUCTURED
EDUCATE YOURSELF YOU FUCKING MORON

No we aren't retard. Your theory is moronic and there is no evidence for it.

Kyoani has revealed that they have received anonymous death threats for years. Possibly from the arsonist.

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So he's dead, right?
Media just lists him as "missing" so I don't know if that means they can't find or identify, or have not yet identified, his remains yet or if he genuinely is like missing person missing.

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I hope they make some really fucking edgy shit.

KyoAni president wants him to be listed as missing until end times. Apparently having closure is not good for the public,

Pretty much. He and a bunch of rookie directors have died.

Security, understandable. Fire? On a small building like this? You're retarded.

At the end of the day, does it really matter so much if a few burgers have incorrect expectations about japanese tort law?

I don't think it does. I can't think of any reason why it might. Can you think of a reason? If not, then perhaps you should relax and brush it aside. If you yell at too many people you'll shorten your life. Mellow out a bit.

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Yeah he's dead but he will be officially listed as missing for a while.

Bascially the same as Bison Dele

based

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Someone know how high the risk is for blindness? Between ink-black smoke contacting the eyes and your face/eyelids smoldering from heat
newfag

>have no idea whats going on
>hear KyoAni arson fire on extreme anime radio
>30 something dead
>think nothing of it
>go to watch anime after 2 weeks of no anime
>go to watch fire force but not there
>look up fire force
>canceled till further notice because of KyoAni arson fire out pf respect
>fuck
>Look up Kyoani since I'v probably seen there stuff before
>The weeb kawaii studio you've always known about forever as been burnt to ash

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Nah. They're not going to let this fire destroy their soul. That would be a bad idea because it would also alienate their fanbase, and they need a big knock-it-outta-the-park hit that sells really well to increase their stock value after this shit.

>If a third of their staff didn't die
I'm honestly not sure I believe that they died. There are too many strange things and many of the early reports sound like something from a manga.

>then this would be great
:thinking:

I know we're supposed to go into tragedy mode, but I just don't trust japanese artists.

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Fire Force is generic shonen trash so you deserve every bit of frustration you're experiencing over this

Did the police ever get the arsonist to elaborate on his motive? Which series did he specifically think they stole?

>On a small building like this?
Yes, fire codes apply to all buildings, big or small. They do in Japan, and they do in every other first world nation.

One change you can expect to see made with reasonable certainty is the banning of unenclosed spiral staircases piercing floors.

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>Amerifats inserting their shitty burgers everywhere
Get the fuck out.

This is going to sound weird but a guy who looks exactly like him moved into an apartment down the hall recently, and there were three burned matches on the carpet near his door on the morning before the fire.
He has a strange smirk when I see him.

>actual reddit tourists start flocking in
ayylmao

DONT LOSE YOUR WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Dude is in a medically-induced coma right now, don't think he's talking to much of anybody

He's in a burn unit in Osaka, not sure about distances but that tells me the local hospitals burn wards were overwhelmed

Gladly this isn't america who fucking revolves on such shameless practices.

>Everyone in the industry will think twice if they want to deal with the otaku culture anymore
THIS IS A GOOD THING
I F U C K I N G WARNED YOU

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Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

baste and reddit pilled :^)

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over fire force?no

They burnt down dragon maid studio

This a potential anime here, you could base entire seasons off this

>medically-induced coma
Ah shit I didn't know that. I guess it'll be a couple weeks then.

???

Literal plebbit tier chair quarterbacking

Kys

Reminder that Anno is a true blue otaku unlike what retarded Americans might have you believe. He's an unabashed fan of Strike Witches for christ's sake.

Yeah whatever faggot.

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To ashes, you say.

>me
>reddit
you are here forever but not me not anymore

I thought he got beat into a comma

>You can see them developing a frame for Maid Dragon season 2 on the fucking monitors
F U C K
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so
33 dead, 6 were visitors out of 70 people in the studio at the time
with animation outsourced to vietnam/korea and kyoani had offices and talent in other parts of japan at the time and several directors and scriptwriters etc are confirmed to be safe
the studio isn't dead but it got hamstrung, it'll be back in full force now that there are vacancies open, the kyoani "ethos" or style is easy to replicate so it's not like the whole studio is dead in the water

I know nobody will believe me, but strange things happen in this building (and it's in Australia, so you can walk to Japan from here). The elevator looks like... have you seen that movie Cube?

There's a creative studio next door and a few months ago right after I moved in they closed down the street to film for some kind of reality show.

HEY THIS IS JAPAN

THEY HAVE HONOR, WHO CARES IF 30+ PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE THEIR WORKPLACE WAS A GLORIFIED FIREPIT READY TO BE LIT

God I wish I was Japanese

>banning
unnecessary. They just need an external stairwell like any sane building would have. Vanity staircases are fine, but the real, functional staircase equipped to handle emergencies should be universal. It's still unfathomable to me that the spiral staircase was their sole evacuation route and this was somehow within Japan's fire and zoning regulations.

> please give us time
It is sad they even had to type that

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Do strange things happen?
When you're going round the twist?

Yes, that is the staircase in question. You can expect to see that sort of installation banned.

I'm genuinely not sure what you're upset about.

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It is likely they will come back stronger than ever. More people than ever will want to join and rebuild it.

The ones that didn't die have heavily damaged eyes, lungs and limbs. Can't work

youtube.com/watch?v=tYzMYcUty6s

pleading with investors to understand

Anno is a twisted mess of hypocrisy leeching off the bloated corpse of Evangelion, and he can't even be fucked to finish the shitty movies because he's too busy with Persona or something. Miyazaki is basically a rich douche spoiled on high budget long schedule movie releases with generic plots and themes whenver he feels like, but at least he is consistent. I don't like how anime has dug itself into a smaller niche over this decade and I don't know how it could fix itself.

An unenclosed staircase that pierces floors becomes a chimney; that design contributed to the spread of the fire and the very rapid accumulation of smoke.

But yes, lack of an external stairwell is another huge problem this building had (and many others still have.) External stairwells or fire escapes could potentially become required on all new construction, although there will be more industry pushback on that than banning spiral staircases, since spiral staircases are fairly niche anyway.

Nah. Its dead. Kyoani was an anomaly in that it was located in Kyoto where there is a much smaller pool of animation talent.

BASED

Not even mad faggot. Keep acting like a tool.
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I'm pretty sure this came from a video made in 2017

Full screen grabs here.

Looks like 2nd and third floors

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>It's still unfathomable to me that the spiral staircase was their sole evacuation route
They also had normal stairs. But still, their regulations definitely could be better.

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It wasn't their only stairwell but their other stairwell had no ground exit attached or fire doors to keep out smoke. 20 people funneled into it and died trying to get to the roof. In USA workplaces, there must be an exit stairwell with fire doors on all entrances and a direct exit to the outside.

Yeah you are correct it is from season 1
The bottom one has a monitor showing Kanna doing that eye thing I think

don’t forget their dicks are probably burned off after running through the fire

shit look like a goddamn used matchstick

You are now aware that they will have to demolish that building. And there will be webms of that moment with comments saying "Kyoani didn't find a way".

That slim girl has really nice hair.

Easily countered by "KyoAni found a way . . . to rebuild."

Too bad she's among the dead.

>The horrific moment a man set a hospital ward ablaze in an attack on another patient, killing three including himself, has been caught on CCTV.The shocking incident involved an apparently furious dialysis patient at a private hospital in Albania. The video shows him walking calmly into the ward, where four people are receiving treatment, before dousing a male patient with gasoline.

>A scuffle ensues before the perpetrator ignites the fluid, causing an explosion and engulfing the room in flames.
(I've seen this webm before.)

So your point is that assault with gasoline is nothing new? How does that relate to fire codes being revised in the aftermath of a very deadly fire?

You keep on insulting me but it's honestly not clear to me what you're upset about.

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The rumor I heard is that a new studio will be built and a memorial park will be built at the site of Studio 1.

It's much cheaper in many ways to build or convert a fire resistant internal stairwell. Studio 1 had two chimneys for escape routes which is why so many on the 2nd and 3rd floor died.

It's more Stephen King than Paul Jennings. Lots of minor things that seem mundane, so I'd sound like an idiot if I tried to talk about them, but literally every couple of days something unusual happens and the cumulative impression is surreal.
I promise I'm not larping, but I know saying "I don't expect you to believe me" when I can't give any examples of a smoking gun is pretty weaksauce.

For example, the building next door is a well-known NGO. Every few months their HVAC system on the roof breaks down, and starts making a noise like... an ambient loop from Silent Hill. Is it a sound a broken air conditioner could plausibly make? Yeah, but also sounds indistinguishable from a perfect cinematic effect that an audio engineer would produce.

I don't even know why I'm posting this, because probably the best case is jokes and being called schitzophrenic, since I can't think of anything I can do to investigate.

I know

From what I read elsewhere, the stairwell was not closed off from the rest of the building. This means it had no fire doors nor any kind of way to pressurize it to keep smoke out.

Roof door, per a survivor, had a two-lever latch that was tricky to operate, instead of American "crash bar"-style latches.

He's an idiot. Don't bully his stupidity.
Of course if Ja0an d9esn't change their fire code then so are they.

The girl in the middle of the first pic is Ellen Page. Heard it from a sneaky bird

He's an idiot. Don't bully his stupidity.
Of course if Japan doesn't change their fire code then so are they.

You’re saying as if you can’t do both things at the same time. And the news reported that he only dumped the bucket full of gasoline at the spiral staircases before setting it on fire, that shouldn’t have took more than a few seconds.

Uhhhh so you think that... so because you think that like an air conditioner, by your own admission, sounds like an air conditioner, but it sounds too good for REAL LIFE instead it is A MOVIE SOUND, so because of this, you think, uh, what? You think that you're in a movie? That's... not true you are not in a movie. Get your head checked you are showing early symptoms of schizophrenia, make an appointment tomorrow with your doctor, explain the situation and please God get help.

You google translate dumb fuck. They hadn't received death threats recently, but they sifted through old ones to cross reference and check back names and sources on whether the guy had sent one. Which he hadn't. Just like he had never sent a novel in, so there was nothing to plagiarize. He was just wacko.

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>I thought he got beat into a comma
Yes, by the doctors, thus it was medically induced

Yes, and worst of all is that that door somehow was approved by an inspector a year ago.

>majority of the victims died because they couldn't escape due to the fire code not being good enough
>Japan doesn't need to change the fire code

You can't even spell correctly,go back to school and kys.

>A haunted anime studio
Shit this thread continues shitting out gold

>he got beat into a comma
By an upper case letter or a lower case letter?

Demolition is the only way to go. If you look at the actual area on Google Maps, its ridiculously crowded.

In America, sites of mass shootings are demolished more often than not. Thats why the town of Sandy Hook demolished the high school and Lanza house--to deter [morbid] curiousity seekers.

Another thread mentioned putting bronze statues of various KyoAni characters there. That was shot down as a bad idea (Just look up the "Crazy Girls" sculpture at the former Rivera Hotel in Las Vegas, one pic should explain everything)

both, at the same time

I know, I know, its serious

In typical internal stairwells, the stairwell is enclosed on all floors with fire resistant doors separating the stairwell from each floor. This generally works very well. I'm not sure what went wrong in the internal enclosed stairwell in this case, some reports I've heard suggest that the arsonist spread gasoline in the stairwell, but I'm not sure if that's true. I'm sure Japanese authorities are investigating this matter very carefully.

More concerning than the enclosed stairwell is the spiral staircase. Without walls and fire resistant doors around it, smoke and hot gasses from one floor are free to spread very rapidly throughout any floor linked to that spiral staircase.

It's also clear that an external staircase would have saved many lives, and would not have become a chimney.

I wasn't not trying to bully him, I was just confused by him.

Opening method of the roof door doesn't matter since not a single one of them managed to each it before succumbing to fumes/heat
>Stephen King's next horror novel is about a broken AC making strange noises

bad fire code is okay when Japan does it

HAHAHAAHH! Nnnnice.

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So who died and who lived?

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>>Stephen King's next horror novel is about a broken AC making strange noises
The plot twist is that the book is really a book in a book and the eventual movie is really a movie in a fucking movie.

And the guy's in the latter and he's only just now finding out
Classic "character realizes he's a character" twist

Unknown, they're still identifying bodies

I'm with here. Not even trying to troll, you genuinely should see a shrink and get checked out, or maybe pick up smoking if you don't already (there seems to be mounting evidence that nicotine counteracts some schizophrenia symptoms).

But it's not okay

We won't know for a while. We just know Takemoto didn't make it.

Unknown, Hatta told police not release names

The building had godawful design and safety regulations, how in the hell did they get away with it?

Takemoto - Dead (technically missing)
Megumu Ohno - Dead (technically missing)
Unknown mid twenties VA - Dead

officially no one is dead though, we're all hoping for a miracle that maybe takemoto took off on a business trip and didnt tell anyone

sadly megumu is 99.9% dead, being that she was young (21 i believe) and was known to be very close with his family and wouldn't go long without being in contact

>Takemoto didn't make it.
STOP THIS RIGHT NOW

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>(Just look up the "Crazy Girls" sculpture at the former Rivera Hotel in Las Vegas, one pic should explain everything)
dem asses tho..

>So who died
KyoAni
>and who lived?
Everyone not in KyoAni's "Studio 1" building in the Fushimi ward of Kyoto, Japan on the 18th July from 10:35 am onwards.

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RIP

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Right?

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You mean technically dead, officially missing.

Just honestly never thought they would be attacked. I mean, who would there?

I'd imagine they passed standard office fires. Like a small fire breaking out in the corner of the office and slowly spreading . Not 10 gallons of gas blowing up, spreading to all the paper and copiers in 3 seconds.

he's not alive anymore, you can call it what you want

>those qt designs
god why was this woman taken from us?

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Between jobs at any rate

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>the girl on the left is the girl in the baja anime short
>baja never got to see the outside

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VAs are replaceable they all sound the same anyway. Did any of the NHK documentary staff die?

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Art supply fires can be very aggressive. I don't know if modern studios have anything like that still or if it's purely digital now, but they certainly did have a lot of paper and loose clutter laying around. Furthermore the synthetic materials a lot of office furniture and equipment have in them can create very toxic gasses when burned. All in all, you should take ANY office fire very seriously. They can be extremely lethal even without an accelerant like gasoline being thrown into the mix.

im able to move past this one because they were of little significance at the company since they were so new.

KyoAni finds a way!

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Find me anyone who can properly replicate Sugita or Wakamoto, 100% perfectly. Or even Imai or HanaKana.

Even in English you can tell when a voice is being played by a budget version of a different actor.

She just wanted pancakes

The only thing they can't find is a way out!

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If they had zero off site backups, then the cost of data recovery will be ruinous to Kyoanus anyway.

Sandy Hook had been condemned and abandoned years before the (((((((shooting)))))))) actually happened.

i think someone quoted 6 visitors came in that day, so up to 5 could have been nhk

Don't know any of those cunts

>Unknown mid twenties VA - Dead
Because of the corpse's location?Arguably their significance was huge because they were future animators
Should no new ones fill that void you're going to see even more outsourced work

KYOANI STRONK

Hey get out casual those people rock dude

Which corner is that? It looks like 2nd floor away from the spiral staircase where a lot of the bodies were found

Retard.

Of course

Okay, time for bed

Thank you for another thread, this keeps their memories alive

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kek

if that is the second floor Naoko Yamada dodged a bullet not going to work that day shes the 0ne in the yellow

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It would be for the best if they closed. No more moeshit.

This but ironically