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The Chimera Ant is so front and back-loaded and the pacing is atrocious. It's the most overrated arc in this manga.

I thought everything between the world tree and the announcement of the succession war fell into its own arc

CA is an unparalleled achievement in manga storytelling imho

I hated how the soldiers of gorteau looked like playmobil toys in the anime version. I was like; nigga fuck.

kek

Exactly, fuck east Gorteau and their citizens.

O MY CHAPTERS WHEN?

1. Gyro
2. Chimera Ant
3. Dark Continent
4. Succession War
5. Yorknew
6. Homunculus
7. Leorio
8. Hunter Exam
9. Epilogue
10. Election
11 Greed Island
12. Heaven Area Tournament
13. Zoldyck

>Greed Island
>CA
>York Shin
>Hunters Exam
>Election
>Heaven's Arena

-Unplaced
>Succession War

it's really saying something where i care more about antagonists like babi or yuri more than allied characters like scabbards from one piece.

I kinda dislike election arc as it made CA events less impactful. And if there's something in hxh that can be called an aspull then it is Kite's resurrection

>Kite's resurrection
that's not how you spell "reincarnation"

Roses? Never noticed until now

Hunter Exam shouldn't be so high in that list

Why did Togashi do it? It completely removes the impact his death had on Gon.

Hunter Exam is very underrated

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Yes it should. I enjoyed the hunter exam.

He wanted to show that Gon's revenge quest was dumb and pointless.

Uvogin could easily defeat and kill Hisoka.

That was a great callback. Togashi did seem to have a thing for people having their arms cut off in that arc, I wonder why?

But Gon would have already come to that realization when Pitou’s destruction served no purpose other than to punish him for breaking his promise to heal Kite. Kite coming back with his memories intact and a younger body dismisses the impact of his death. I could argue the same thing for Palm, but she was a much less significant character.

Kite was in charge and the one meant to make all the judgement calls in their dealings with the ants. He's the one that let them tag along, and responsibility for the outcome rests on his shoulders, but Gon blames himself. He solely blames himself until Killua tells him they're not at fault, which causes Gon to momentarily lash out and send accusations towards him as well. He's looking at someone to be angry at. Then at the end Gon finally projects that inward and becomes self destructive.

Ging makes it pretty clear that Gon was being selfish and was basically having a tantrum. It wasn't so much as him mourning Kite's death, but believing so much in the protagonist syndrome he had in the prior arcs, where he can just take a lot of punishment and make things turn out the way he wants like a messiah.

Gon had an impact in the chimera ant arc, but it was almost strictly how he encouraged other people (Killua can now make friends with someone like Ikalgo, Shoot got inspired), but his biggest power driven success in killing Pitou isn't actually supposed to look great.

It turns out the experienced hunter in the group was resourceful beyond what the child expected and didn't need him to get revenge. No one explicitly needed him to kill Pitou for the invasion strategy (although stalling was definitely beneficial), because Pitou would have been pacified by the king at best and killed by being exposed to the rose later on at worst. Either way, Pitou wasn't going to stay a threat to the rest of the world, and Netero's mission was going to go off as expected without Gon's intervention.

So then you have Gon left to realize that there was basically no nobility in what he was doing, or real tactical sense, he simply acted out at someone else to punish himself, and put his friends through hell afterward to fix it. Rather than sticking around mourning for someone, he got a major lesson in responsibility and a kick in the confidence.

Star Wars

The reconciliation is still diminished by Kite’s return. Gon suffered terribly for his choices, but he acted in typical single minded fashion, which for some reason surprised everyone. And nobody on the team knew what Netero’s plan was, they just trusted that he could defeat the king, which he did through means unknown to the team. And the team’s role is essentially over when the king leaves with Netero and tells the guards to stay behind, the didn’t need to fight they and could have retreated, saving everyone a lot of trouble. The whole arc is written with the characters constantly changing their minds. Like Ikalgo being unable to injure Bloster at all, but being quite willing to shoot Welfin over and over a few minutes later.

It's important

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He’d already lost one hand in the Greed island arc.

>It's still diminished by Kite's return.
No, really it's not. Yes, a lot of what Gon is at least passable logic since they didn't know exactly what was going on with Netero or Kite. It's the why that comes into view when Kite comes back and Gon looks like an idiot.

It doesn't matter that Gon doesn't know what Netero's up to, when Gon isn't once thinking "man, I really hope we save the world!" Kite coming back does matter when the situation is "wait, I only made things worse being angry, while my self destruction was pointless anyway because other characters matter as much as I do?"

He killed millions to save billions

Daily reminder

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t. 2011 tard who knows it from that awful adaptation

I really think there is something else to it. He also did it with Genkai in YYH.

More like thousands to save billions

How did Gon make things worse exactly?

Let’s go tote start and say Komugi isn’t injured but the king leaves with Netero to fight. The group effectively lost to Youpi who evolved to become stronger and stronger and were only wearing down Pouf, who still had enough fight left in him to be a threat. With Pitou not preoccupied with healing Komugi or beholden to leave with Gon, they’d be wiped out before Netero even detonated the Rose. Gon’s threatening to kill Komugi unless Pitou cooperated effectively eliminated her as a threat and the only person inconvenienced was Killua, who had to run off to pick him up.

The message that a path of destruction just creates destruction is a good thing for Gon to experience, but with Kite coming back anyway he can just do what his dad said and try harder next time, without any consequences for how things went in the CA arc. He can see Kite any time he wants to. If he couldn’t, that would be a real consequence of the arc and fighting a dangerous enemy.

A couple hundred thousand. Kind of funny that they said “we’ll try to avoid civilian casualties, but there’s probably going to be a mass panic when the fighting starts and people will be trampled to death”. “Oh good, Pouf’s hypnotized the crowd so that won’t happen.” “Oh no! A sickly blind girl we’ve never met and who didn’t factor into the plan is injured! Better prioritize her!” Bad Togashi! That’s bad writing! Bad!

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Based

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kino

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So Gon really didn’t care about Kite nor did he genuinely moutend Kite’s death? In the end....Kite really meant nothing to Gon after all?

The ants would learn cruelty with time. Pitou learned brain surgery from a book and applied it.

That was just anime filler.

Yeah. Queen made big mistake when started eating humans

Yeah that was pretty lame, who gives a shit about Komugi when there's world domination at stake, should have killed her without second thoughts if doing so would have improved their chances even by a tiny bit

>How did Gon make things worse?
My entire point is that he didn't need to do it to succeed on his end, and made things worse for his friends after. Why would I be arguing that he made things explicitly worse during the invasion? If things played out entirely the same, but Gon didn't go off the rails after Pitou admitted the problem, and Gon appealed to Pitou's emotions (kind of the whole point of the arc for various Chimera ants), the same result would have been achieved without his friends having to play clean up. Just because he doesn't sacrifice himself with a nen vow t doesn't mean he can't be edgy at all during the arc.
>The message that a path of destruction just creates destruction is a good thing for Gon to experience, but with Kite coming back anyway he can just do what his dad said and try harder next time, without any consequences for how things went in the CA arc. He can see Kite any time he wants to.
You say that, completely ignoring that Gon had character development in terms of keeping in mind that other people matter and how his actions affect others. You say that, ignoring that it put a tremendous wedge him and someone more important to him, Killua. You're putting way too much value on death, while completely ignoring far more meaningful consequences and the author intent of having thrown away a lot for a mentality that he can no longer mount any defense for.

>“Oh no! A sickly blind girl we’ve never met and who didn’t factor into the plan is injured! Better prioritize her!” Bad Togashi! That’s bad writing! Bad!

>missing the point this hard

>we’ll try to avoid civilian casualties, but there’s probably going to be a mass panic when the fighting starts and people will be trampled to death”
>“Oh good, Pouf’s hypnotized the crowd so that won’t happen.”
Based user, nice to meet someone who noticed it. I swear I thought I was the only who noticed that and start thinking about it in the aftermath of the CA.

Did anyone else noticed this too? Did some of you thought about the casualties that showed up at the end?

The defense for his mentality is that he wanted revenge and wanted people around him to let him have it. In its simplest expression, nobody in that roster of murderers and exterminators could deny him that. You think Killua wouldn’t seek revenge if someone killed Gon? Knuckle wouldn’t avenge Morel? He did everything he could to kill kill Youpi after how badly he injured Shoot, so why should the rules be different for Gon?

>nobody in that roster of murderers
Fucking what?!

Maybe you guys can answer this. When Pouf sends a body segment back to the castle to kill Komugi, Knuckle hits him while using Gid’s Accomplice with Meleoron and activates Hakoware, then runs off still invisible. So why does A.P.R appear visible and immediately get noticed by the king, Youpi and Puof’s core? When he hit Youp on the staircase Meleoron had to deactivate God’s Accomplice before it became visible. What gives?

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They didn’t got to the palace to have tea with the ants user, they were there to kill them.

You're missing the "I want to use this person as a vector for my own suicide because my ego just broke" angle in those analogies.

Trying to read the Chimera Ant arc when it was current was devastatingly demoralizing due to constant hiatuses and parts where it looked like it was scribbled on a napkin.

Also the finale was really disappointing. You wondered how they would win with the Ants being so strong — just to have it wrapped up by a nuke and Gon hulking up from out of nowhere.

did we read the same manga?

Based Godashi upsetting battlefags with the most poignant finale in manga history.

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Enlighten me then, why acknowledge that civilians are probably going to die and not prioritize their safety, then in the middle of the mission switch objectives?

So fucking what? The ants are a threat to humanity and deserved to be killed. The real murderers are the ants.

Gon really didn't contribute anything by hulking out. Had Pitou not been killed she would have gone to save Meruem with Pouf and Youpi and been affected by the Rose Poison.

I loved how the others hunters across the world fought and killed/captured the other 314 chimera ants.

Search & Destroy

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Even just thinking about this moment sends shivers down my spine

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Why does Netero wear gym clothes anyway?

I don't even understand how that place was a city. It felt more like a village and an open wilderness park like Australia. And how did they manage to get this many kill counts when their army didn't even reach a thousand? And why was Pitou's nen such a dumb shape? How does that even work in 3D? How did the Ant Queen even get there? Swim across the ocean? Why did the king just burst out and kill her too? What does having a ton of nen even mean if you don't use it for anything except power?

>People still talk about concept of morality in Chimera Ants vs Human conflicts
Poor Togashi

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Morel and Knuckle explicitly say they were expecting mass casualties but were goi g to proceed with the mission. Pouf hypnotizing the crowd wasn’t something they expected, but they just went with it. They had no evacuation plan for the civilians. So if they were braced for thousands of deaths, why would one death give them pause?

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yes i've only watched the 2011 version

the ants didn't stood a chance from the beginning.
That was the point

The problem is nobody knew about the poison except for Netero. And he just wanted to fight a really strong opponent before he died, it was never about saving people for him.

Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot, stop repeating the same retarded shit every fucking day you dumb cunt

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They’re his favorite. You must have a favorite top, pair of socks or hat of some sort?

Did Knuckle and Morel tell Gon to not kill Komugi at some point?

Netero nuking Meruem is the only time Togashi (((subverting))) expectations was actually good

Do you see the OP? It's a screencap from the manga. This is a HxH MANGA thread. You either read the manga from start to finish or be labelled as a newfag for the rest of your life and very rightfully so. Why can't other mangaka be as creative as Togashi when it comes to page composition, panelling etc... The answer is simple: READ THE FUCKING MANGA!

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Too bad nobody bothered to tell Komugi what was going on. Or ask her for information about the king and his guards.

Yeah, Knuckle gets really uncomfortable with Gon using Komugi as a hostage.

i don't really care

Well she was unconscious for pretty much the entire Palace Invasion.

> Why can't other mangaka be as creative as Togashi when it comes to page composition, panelling etc...
Based.

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This, Yorknew should have ended with an epic battle between Kurapika and Chrollo, just like Dragon Naruto Academia Piece. Fuck realistic and multilayered conflict.

Pitou healed her and she regained consciousness. She was able to talk for a good 10 minutes until Pouf got her worked up and Killua head butted her unconscious.

The original slog was definitely awful. But I liked the conclusion. Gon's transformation is a lot more about his character arc than the arc's solution.

For the ants, Togashi made a biologically superior existence that at the high end of humans simply can't beat. We get to see hunters still style on Youpi a bit, showing them compete with sheer resilience. For Meruem, we have someone that is all but insurmountable, but instead of a power up like Gon's beating Meruem and throwing the power scale up even higher, we find humanity instantly prepared a contingency for him that they had already achieved, that has nothing to do with the power of a single person. And Meruem is completely blind sided by it, because the chimera ants can't even conceive of that level of an arms race coming out of human v human, because their short existence have been food chain superiority. And then the fallout from that point on is just characterization and how different people deal with death. Kino

And it does well to set up the DC, because we've seen the high end of raw power. We're not getting back to that. Human characters have to do better with less, while dealing with a hostile environment, rather than just more humanized enemies (not that the boat isn't great right now). There's far more extinction probably components to the HxH world that don't come with a power level.

they knew that Komugi was somehow important for the king so having her captured may grant them a bargaining chip

This.
I hope Kurapika vs Troupe conflict will end with Kurapika killing himself from using Emperor Time

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Does he tell Gon not to kill her, though? Being ok with a certain war doesn't mean that you won't be phased to see soldiers killing people in front of you. Especially if they are pretty muh child soldiers.

Makes you wonder why there isn't like more nen technology if their technology is this great.

>Multilayered conflict
This fucking level of delusion. Holy shit.

Kino post.

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But they didn’t want to do that, they hated that Gin made her a hostage.

Killua is a faggot and tells him to wait and let Pitou heal her, while for all he knows hell was going on out of that room and everybody else could have been dead in minutes. Plus Gon and Killua both were fucking idiots for not following with Pitou's offer and breaking every single bone in her body and render her useless in combat

This inconsistency really irks me about the characters’ motives in the invasion arc. If they’re going to bring children on a dangerous mission then they can’t apply different rules to them because they’re children

You clearly don't know what multilayered plotting is. HxH arcs are propelled forward by ever raising tension with mini payoffs and misdirections which are reminiscent of a thriller (this is true of most of the series but especially so in Kurapika arcs). Kurapika's abilities also enrich the crime thriller undertones with their emphasis on interrogation, theft, imprisonment, etc.

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I am betting on Kurapika almost-dying so Leorio is motivated to explore the DC to find a cure for him.

what is it about hxh that attracts so many attention starved faggots?

Like you? Dunno

>E=mc^2

building up a conflict and then going "actually nothing matters cause everyone died lol" is shit writing

That's generic as fuck. The nitro rice is a red herring. Kurapika will die on the boat.

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The only excuse I k of for Gon not having her cripple herself is that it would take longer to get to Kite if Pitou couldn’t walk or run. That said, I wonder what Gon would have done afterwards? Killed Pitou? Abandoned the mission since Kite would be healed? Do whatever Kite said? He didn’t seem to have a plan for afterwards. Also, why did Pitou say he was sorry he couldn’t heal Kite? And the say sorry that she had to kill Gon? Pitou was the most merciless and cruel of any ant.

>Yeah dude fights are epic bro

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So WHAT was the purpose of Gon hulking out again?

was that page really published in wsj?

So we could get this arc, obviously. We can finally ditch Gon.

>song is called: hunters are evil
>even though gon is the only who did something evil

togashi wrote himself into a corner and had to give gon a powerup that would save him. Of course no one else ever did it except him so chalk it up to the typical shonen bullshit of "no one but the protagonist has this much willpower/was born special" crap

It is not like Knuckle has done this before, user. He can do something not knowing the full consequences of it. It is not an inconsistency to say, "yeah, we are going to war, even if some innocents die as a result" and then be shocked when you see your friend treatening to kill innocents. Such things have happened irl.

Also, Gon was hellbent in going. If they had not taken him, he might have gone on his own.

Nice argument.

>Pitou was the most merciless and cruel of any ant
Like, at the beginning right after she was born and she's operating on instinct? Sure. Pitou was also the most focused on what Meruem actually wanted, and all of the ants were developing as people because of actually having some time on the planet, getting actual experience socializing, and human memories popping back up

>even though gon is the only who did something evil

we have really good trolls here who make excellent clickbaits

This is totally wrong in every way

Nope. If he just so much had Pitou feel like Gon was emotionally gone and wouldn't have been a problem, Pitou would have returned to Meruem, and died from the rose fallout. Gon hulked out because it was a point in his character arc.

He should have taken the other arm, plus he could have carried her no problem and broken the legs too. Pitou says she's sorry because she understands human positive emotions for the first time after Meruem tells her to heal Komugi

Zazan literally uses a similar power up some 70 chapters beforw that.

When inspiration strikes the man can create great works.

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Gon's transformation is a deconstruction of the trope "protagonist suddenly finds inner strength when faced with mortal peril".
This trope, which in shounen is commonly glorified and romanticized and abused ad nauseam, is in HxH portrayed as a horrifying transformation and the death of Gon as we know him. Gon is so consumed with bloodlust and revenge that he sacrifices his own humanity and innocent character in order to obtain the power needed to defeat his nemesis. When Killua finally discovers Gon, he barely recognizes his own friend. And if you keep reading the chapter, you'll recognize that Killua's shock and disgust over Gon's conviction is heavily emphasized.
It's not like Gon just had an innocent power spike. He basically committed a selfish suicide to fulfill his revenge, forcing his closest friend (to whom Gon is his only friend) to jump through a million hoops, including smuggling a Calamity out of her strict confinement, to save Gon from imminent death. The transformation seriously damaged their friendship, and after all that shit Gon put Killua through, how can their friendship ever recover?

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>Inconsistency
>Knuckle's concept is an outwardly violent person who loves and is loved by animals, who's power is making a fistfight not let a person actually get hurt and comes with an adorable mascot
It's okay to slow your reading pace

The ants only seem to recall past memories when prompted. And Pitou was constantly thinking about fighting and killing Morel because his smoke puppets were a match for her corpse puppets.

Eat fucking shit and die, you angry retarded imbred subhuman. Show me fucking proof where I repeated the same thing every day, oh wait you don’t have any. Kys you lying brainless idiot.

netflix marketed it to literal zoomers

I rewatched a clip from it recently. It was when Meruem sees Komugi injured and commands Pitou to heal her. I actually got goosebumps.

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Based.

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Killua’s concept of friendship is still twisted. Pitou was essentially a destructive evil that needed whatever means necessary to be destroyed. Gon never asked to be saved.

The point is they are all becoming more human over time. It's literally tied to the theme of the arc. Even Youpi, who doesn't have an ounce of human in him and therefore isn't becoming more human in mindset, begins to develop a fondness for humans. They're going from having just been born, and relying on instinct (In pitou's case, hunting concepts from cats), to having genuine sympathy.

This user is kino poster.

They were afraid that panic would cause a lot of casualties, but fortunately for them, those people were hypnotized but even then, they must had some kind of plan or a plan in the making to avoid casualties with or without Pouf hypnosis.

Gon doesn't destroy Pitou for that reason, and really all of the ants are more complex than that. Killua only tries to reason with Gon, doesn't inflict himself on him, and is genuinely hurt that Gon doesn't value at least their friendship enough to not throw his life away. Seems like a reasonable outlook.

i love that scene as well

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Netero should have just throw Meruem into space

Yeah, too bad the king only talked about world domination and eating humans. And that Pouf and Pitou’s aura was so evil it nearly killed Knov from proximity. I don’t think anybody would give them the benefit of a doubt.

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Kino moment.

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But they lite4ally didn’t. It seemed like they counted on people fleeing, a lot dying, but the rest getting away.

He could have had Knov make a portal and slap Meruem into one of his chambers. Then seal it and wait for him to starve to death.

>Yeah, too bad there are stages that I can account for on their way to developing as empathetic beings
Uh

Pitou is the best girl and is my wife

Meruem could probably make a teleportation hatsu before starving.

Hello user.
It seems you saved my pic and used the same filename. I’m impressed to be honest.

>Yeah, too bad the king only talked about world domination and eating humans.
You need to go back

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Too bad they don’t know anything about the King’s mindset other than world domination and eating humans.

Holy fuck, the use of full black to depict Meruem's En is kino.

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See and .
Besides it was Pouf’s doing with his scales and corpse rotting there.

Lol user. I am actually a phone poster so I usually don't edit file names when I download them.
10/10 naming btw.

Humans are the real monsters

Uhhhhhh
Pouf has a fucking conniption over Meruem caring about Komugi in the slightest, even before the invasion
There's a character establishing moment in each of them giving their own response to Meruem wanting a name and not being satisfied
And that's just based on Meruem alone, and prior to the invasion, they have their own character developments as things go on

Tiny bit of effort on your part, please

speedreader

He only shad this exchange with Netero, who died. Why would anyone else who knows him think he’d change his mind? You’re assuming every character knows what the king is thinking and talking about.

You can just exit the room from where you entered, fodder ants were killed by Netero before having a chance to do so

Who on the extermination squad knows anything about Meruem’s development? They knew he killed and ate people.

What’s wrong with revenge or avenging your friend/comrade or killing the enemy who committed a lot of evil acts?

Van Gogh type psychosis

does Welfin wear a thong?

Knov’s master key ability lets him set the exit. He can loop two rooms together infinitely.

Gon and Killua, who are the only one that matters since you're using this to talk about them killing Pitou, knew that Pitou was willing to prostrate and endanger herself for a chance to save Komugi. Your original point doesn't even depend on Meruem, and Killua at least links Komugi back to Meruem

In some way yes and in other way no.

The POINT is that despite all these wacky fucking Nen spells and Uber talented people/ants they all still don't amount to shit compared to humanity's ingenuity and ability to do evil as well as Satan himself- technology.

They didn’t know why he considered her important, for all they knew he was the kings latest meal and he wanted her intact before eating her.

They knew he was concerned for her life. You coming up with memes doesn't change that

He can decide where to exit when he's using the key, he can't set it without being there by default

He can set up to 32 exits, that’s plenty to set and loop.

Scariest moment of him

But why would he be? How likely is the scenario that he reached an understanding and reconciliation about humanity’s strength by playing board games with a blind child? Also he still considered human flesh the staple food for his ant society going forward.

Those children can use nen and are hunters who wanted to particate in that mission while saving Kite and stopping the chimera ant invasion once and for all. Killing or threatening a hostage is a another matter.

Very much this, user.

Is it? This seems like a mission to be accomplished by whatever means.

>evil
>changed his mind of his biologically imposed diet being humans
That's not what you started arguing, and regardless, still isn't the reason Gon killed Pitou, and has nothing to do with what Killua should have been thinking.

Also, pic related, he's even more angry because she showed humanity.

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>Why did the king just burst out and kill her too?
His individuality or human side
>What does having a ton of nen even mean if you don't use it for anything except power
It's just like a battery i allows the user to use their ability more,but i still matters how you use it. watch gon vs knuckle.
>It felt more like a village and an open wilderness park like Australia.
Pretty much it was a nation what reject technology
>they manage to get this many kill counts when their army didn't even reach a thousand?
The citizens weren't armed and many died from pouf's nen ability.

He was angry because Pitou was healing Komugi, but killed Kite. This isn’t a humane act, she was ordered to do it.

>that translation

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>WHAAA Humans are the REAL MONSTERS
>Rich peopel are EVIL
>did you know war is bad?
>did you know
Miss me with that gay shit. HxH is the single most overrated manga in recent history, with the Chimera ant arc being the worst offender. It has one good arc (the Yorknew arc) and then everything else is either just fine or outright mediocre.

NGL was the Luddite nation based on South America, East Gorteau was a take on North Korea.

Pitou is a good girl

>WHAAA Humans are the REAL MONSTERS

I think HxH might be too smart for you

Komugi was used so Pitou would keep his promise to Gon.

Some of them like Welfin or Ikalgo remember their past lives as humans from the start, but yeah some ants memories of their past lives pops up at certain situations or events, even though it affected on how they behave but they’re unaware of it.

She's risking her life to heal someone, he doesn't know the reason but she's showing benevolence and the narration even says the way he's getting angrier because he can't just take his anger out on her, because he can't perceive her as a sheer monster.

And you're stuck in a loop saying "THEY DIDN'T KNOW MERUEM WASN'T EVIL" (even though meruem doesn't matter in this at all), and trying to rectify that they should know this is an order from Meruem, and that it shouldn't count because of that. Even though this is also showing loyalty and compassion for Meruem's situation, and still self sacrifice.

Chimera Kino rent free in brainlets' heads.

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I'd never thought I'd say this considering how hard Yea Forums used to ride its dick even just a few years ago but the Chimera Ant arc is underrated on here.

Possibly the most profound conclusion that I've seen from any piece of media.

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Okay user, thanks btw.

What could they have done. pouf's nen ability is time based and there are close to a million of them.

Jesus, how can you actually stomach this garbage? This is Oku Hiroya tier of hammy moral anvil.

Pitou wasn’t risking his life, he states multiple times internally that he could kill Gon, but feared that Gon would kill Komugi first.

Pitou is kind

Pure, unfiltered, boomerkino.

>Jesus, how can you actually stomach this garbage?

What's the problem here?

They weren’t going to do anything, they accepted that civilians were going to die, which is why I find it odd that they cared for Komugi at all.

It's simply stated as a fact you pretentious retard.

>It felt more like a village and an open wilderness park like Australia.
>Pretty much it was a nation what reject technology
He was asking about East-Gorteau, not the NGL.
>The citizens weren't armed and many died from pouf's nen ability.
The former was done by Pitou’s ability, the latter was indirectly done by Pouf and his corpse being poisoned by the Rose.

>Hurr durr it's good because it subverted my expectations and those of people who expected a decent payoff

Killua says outright that while healing Komugi, Pitou is virtually unprotected, with barely any aura as ten. He also has a moment right after stating it's like a mother protecting a child, and has to rationalize it, and also dwells on Zeno telling him to judge what's going on inside the building for himself just prior.

The characters literally do not perceive the situation in the way you want to portray

Kek, retired in peace while his people lived in poverty, starvation and were getting killed by his regime and the chimera ants alike.

I wonder how he reacted when he found out that east gorteau is no longer a country anymore.

>I wanted it to be more shounen power level wank
Boku no Hero Academia is waiting for you

It's good because it's actually tells interesting story while staying battle shonen, but not focusing fully on "Lol their powerlevel so big who will win??? EPIC" mentality, and being profound about human nature, darwinism and etc etc

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>wahh why didn't netero punch him and then kill him with big beam

It seems you made a thread about it

Killua’s grandpa is a jerk.

He was clearly in paradise with his farm, his dog and his beer, what more could a man ask for?

Probably wouldn't care just like Togashi wouldn't care about us suffering from the Hiatus.

Good point user, but still...
That much is clear now, lol.
Also Bizeff got away with it too.

I say this a lot, but Togashi frames conversations so well. Every single panel has a flourish that keeps the momentum going. Pic related, Kurapika and Melody leaning on and over the panel border as if it were a rooftop wall for example.

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Melody is a national treasure

Hisoka wasn't in the CA arc despite being in every other arc in the story because he would've killed Meruem by himself.

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>Kurapika and Melody leaning on and over the panel border as if it were a rooftop wall
I never noticed that before

It's obviously not the same to be prepared for a few civilian casualties if there's a mass panic and actively putting a civilian in danger you dense fuck. Especially from Zeno, whose approach towards killing is extremely professional and says he never killed a bystander. It's also directly adressed in the manga, black on white.
I can understand how this could fly over your head considering how fucking stupid you are, but this doesn't make it bad writing.
Also you type like a redditor, stop that gay shit.

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Hisoka will die of old age.

ToGODashi

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user they knew over 5 million people would,be packed in at close range, that”s thousands of people being trampled to death when they panicked. One civilian dying should make no difference to them if they planned the mission with a stampede as a likely outcome.

You’re right. The hunters tried their best to minimize the casualties by keeping Meruem and the Royal Guards away and by only targeting the palace. Also it’s better if thousands died instead of millions. They were afraid but nothing else they could do about it. Being pragmatic was the only solution.

I want to have my first kiss with Pitou!

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>it's simply stated as a fact
That doesn't make it any less patently ridiculous and hammy. It's like reading some edgy teenager's misantropic and judgemental view the world.

Oh no, pitoufag is back!

Being practical, why didn’t Knov just sneak a rose bomb into the palace?

because the bomb was a last resort and would cause too much commotion

same retarded question again and again, jesus fuck.

Who said anything about it playing out by having a giant battle? The problem was that as it stood, the conflict's resolution had almost zero impact on most of the main characters and the world at large, except of course for Gon "dying" which was fixed by a wizard.

You really are dense, I don't think you even read my post or the image I posted.
I'll say it again with different words. It's not about the amount of people. If there was a stampede, there was nothing they could do to save those being trampled. In this case, they saw Meruem taking care of a civilian they injured themselves, and would have killed if they attacked.
Your logic is extremely flawed or you're a sociopath. Just because there might have been unavoidable deaths as a result of the assault doesn't mean they'd be fine with killing civilians just if that'd give them a chance to smack Meruem in the face. And you say they priotized her when all they did was wait a few seconds in front of Meruem who was clearly focused on Komugi.

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>profound about human nature
My fucking sides.

You forgot to type "Humans are real monsters", my low iq friend

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Their job was to kill the king, nothing else mattered.

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I think you're projecting a little. Humans as a species are capable of much worse shit than the ants and that's why they lost. I think you're trying to sound like one of those faggy youtube anime critics newfags like to jerk off.

And then what? Killing the ants and all the 5 million people they were trying to save while the use of bomb would cause a great commotion in the media?

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Their second goal was saving those 5 million people.

Clearly it did matter to them, that's the entire point of this scene. It's called characterization, someone like Illumi would have no issues killing Komugi in that scenario, but they did.

only one hour per second? so he can use it for a full hour and only sacrifice a decade of his life? big whoop.

>World wide: They were trying to keep it as contained and under wraps as possible, and still had two countries devastated, Meteor City hit to a questionable degree, tons of "magical beast" attacks across the world. The Chairman of the Hunter Association is dead, setting up the next arc and subsequent mass murders by Illumi. Sparks the ability for young Netero to bring the DC voyage to fruition (which sets of the alarms for a probable human extinction event), which is a piggyback for the succession war
>MC wise: Brings 3 of the 4 MCs into the next arc, Leorio being taken to the political side and eventually getting taken up to the higher ups of the HA, and Killua being taken mainly to helping Gon. Gon is left alive but lost the direction his life was going in for the last 3 or 4 years, his occupation, everything that made him special, and the bulk of his friendship with Killua who has been the only constant in his life since the exams. Killua is saddled with protecting Alluka, leaving Gon behind, and being actively targeted by Illumi (boat impeding this). Kurapika was explicitly choosing not to get involved.
>Zero impact
What were you looking for, because it was obviously something specific

All but just having a chain and using dowsing (which is weaker without ET) requires it. He can steal an ability he can't activate and die in a few days, probably being unconscious for most of it.
I know, not going to stop you from going "lel, years of life ability"

They have no reason to kill Komugi just because.

>I know, not going to stop you from going "lel, years of life ability"
correct. it's not nearly as huge a risk as people made it out to be.

>only sacrifice a decade of his life
How would you feel you lost a decade of your life right now

80 to 70? big whoop.

>subsequent mass murders by Illumi.
You mean the 120 hunters killed by Illumi & Hisoka?

Now imagine doing it again and losing 25% of your life in 2 hours.

i don't consider getting your lifespan reduced from 80 to 60 a big deal either. 50 is a big deal though.

I hope Togashi will reveal that lifespan of people from Kurta clan around 40-50 years max

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Will Bloster come back?
Fuck Kurapika und fuck the Kurta clan.

>Revealed kurta clans are ancient beings whose lifespans are never defined, they just either are or are not.

Go to sleep Kishimoto

Chrollo cheated because he knew he would've lost in a real 1 on 1 fight against Hisoka

>still being this mad and delusional 3 years later

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Not gonna lie, Hisoka was a lot cooler when he was only fighting 12 yo kids and butlers

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That's my point, especially about the finale. Other than Netero, nobody who people knew or give a shit about died (this is exemplified by the narration citing the deathtoll as an impersonal statistic), and it didn't really affect the main characters much on a personal level
>Kurapica
Uninvolved
>Leorio
Uninvolved
>Killua
Was the only one who walked out with actual character development out of the whole ordeal.
>Gon
Had a breakdown and was physically affected by the ordeal...until it was literally unmade by a genie and now he's back to being happy-go-lucky Gon again
>in b4 b-but he lost his nen
Well see and odds are it's not permanent. Why Togashi didn't have Gon and the King meet I'll never know, and I don't mean them having a fight, but rather as a mean to be coherent and have the now "monstrous" Gon realize the folly of his way by meeting the "humanized" king. Also, you can't have it both ways, either the ants were guaranteed to fail from the start due to humanity's ingenuity or whathever, in which case the initial buildup to them attempting to subplant the human race immediately becomes empty hype at best and a gigantic waste of time at worst, or have the arc play out with lower stakes but more of a personal investment for the characters involved, in which case it didn't do much for the main ones at least for me, as I already pointed out before.

>and now he's back to being happy-go-lucky Gon again
At least wait until we see Gon's thoughts again. He hasn't had a PoV ever since his breakdown.

And it seems likely that the original plan was to have Leorio heal Gon by going to the Dark Continent, but we got Killua getting free wishes as an ending for the 2011 anime.

I'm curious now. What is this "profound" insight to the human condition you gained by reading Tohashi's edgy Cell arc fanfic?

>it didn't really affect the main characters much on a personal level
That arc caused Gon to meet Ging and have him and Killua go their separate ways since like chapter 12, that's more than any other arc.
And Gon clearly had development after this arc, he became apologetic about his stubborness, something I'm pretty sure he never did before. Just because he was back to being himself and not stay angry or depressed for no reason since Pitou died doesn't mean he didn't get any development, or you're being obtuse on purpose.
Wack shit user.

>aaah im losing, save me my book of asspulls

>aaah im losing
Literally never even came close to that for Chrollo lmao
>book of asspulls
He showed all the abilities he'd use before the fight
Hisoka got styled on, stay coping clownfag

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Chrollo wasn't losing at any point in the fight. The only hits Hisoka got were all part of his plan.

Your homosexual arachnid entourage will be dead soon enough

What did Togashi meant by this?

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Hisoka will die first.

>That's my point, nothing that's important to me happened to characters that are important to me too!
You literally said "zero impact on most of the main characters AND THE WORLD AT LARGE." Mind saving us the trouble and realizing if you're just going to throw out the "world at large" mattering, you're purposefully making yourself unsatisfied?

Gon lost a lot. A lot more than just nen. Killua too. They stayed alive and got character development from it. There's plenty in the story for you to figure it out, if you're going to try, even if it's not the permanence of death.

Illumi alone could body that homosexual amputee clown.

Are we saying alone like no one is purposefully allying with him, or alone like he has no one to needle control as suicidal truck drivers?

>guy rushes in to attack enemy
>quickly stops attacks, retreats/jumps away
>shocked sweating face "wow if I had attacked him just now I would have died"

HxH in a nutshell

Give me 3 examples of this happening
Closest thing I can think of is that dodgeball game where one guy realized he'd die if he tried catching the ball

Sounds like jojo

In every age, there will be good humans and bad humans.
Human life is too long to devote to reproduction, yet too short to devote to learning, in the helix of time. Perhaps that is why humans succumb to desire and seek release.
Despite the fact that life is complete with the sun, the land, and the poetry.

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But what did he mean by this?

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See, if you had payed attention you would've realized I only brought up the world at large because that's what the narrative itself was (at least initially) building up to until Togashi decided it no longer mattered. I wouldn't ask about the wider repercussions of the YorkNew arc because that story nalied its scope and stakes from the very beginning. That's one of the reasons why I think that arc is far more tightly written than the CA one.

That's actually not very interesting or profound, but you do yours.

>Until Togashi decided that it no longer mattered
But he didn't decide that. I listed a lot of how he tied it back into the world, and how it's still continuing to affect the world.

I thought that Cammy being retarded was a Mangastream thing, but she really is fucking retarded.

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It's obviously wasted on a philistine.

This quote is actually based. What are you talking about

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>charge into her brothers room hoping that her post mortem ability will carry her
>gets her elboy dislocated and locked up for her troubles
She's literally dumber than Sale-Sale. Think about that for a moment

She's speaking like that because it pisses him off, notice how she changes her speech not long after

She literally BTFO's Benjamin and his speshul forces private army with only a half empty 9mm and humiliates them in court. Cammy will be King.

This. Cammy is by far the smartest prince, we just don't get her PoV/internal thoughts so it's inferred from her actions.

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>She literally BTFO's
she failed to even injure her brother or Sergeant Might when she unloaded the rest of the magazine into them. And before that only managed to mildly injure based Furykov who just broke her arm for her troubles.

Cammy is by far dumber than even Kacho and Fuugetsu. Her only fate is to choke on her own arrogance and die
I missed you cammy posting faggots

Cammy & Cersei

Literally who?

No one, just something that popped into my head.

Pitou is the love of my life

was

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This guy is true Yea Forums chad

Will we ever see a new chapter? This is my first hiatus

#MeToo

Is, we are happily married.

My bad, you can't legally marry corpses where I live.

Shalnark was a hunter.

>make the best traps in the industry
>no one makes porn of them because you make one chapter every 5 years

Why is Meruem's Tails flat?

Because of cancer and lack of life energy

That's okay because Terpsichora and a prothetic head draws no suspicions.

Pitou is the queen of all hunter threads

I want a chapter with Phantom Trouple living a comfy life and chilling all day.

The only reason Gon was in any danger at all is because Pouf called Pitou pretending to be Komugi just before they reached Kite. How is that writing himself in a corner you absolute idiot? It was clearly what Gon's entire development in this arc was building up to.

Pouf was disloyal to Meruem and he only cared about his vision of what a King should be, instead Meruem himself.

Hisoka wasn't in the CA arc despite being in every other arc in the story because he would've killed Meruem by himself.

Es sabido... el payaso es el mas fuerte

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Why is Kurapika so shit bros, him being the main character for the past 4 years and the extended hiatuses have been killing me

He's way better than those faggots Gon and Killua.

Pouf was loyal to King, which is more important. Sadly queen fucked up while creating 'perfect organism'

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You mean why is Leorio so fucking shit? Part of the main character and he doesn’t even has his own arc.

That arrogant fucking little insect piece of shit. Glad Meruem got BFTO and died of cancer like the trash he is.

That's because he isn't a shota so Togashi doesn't give a shit about him, Leorio has barely had any of his character talked about other than wanting to become a doctor then leaving for 15 years IRL time and he's been in since the first chapter

>Glad Meruem got BFTO
But he didn't got BTFO. Actually, he died in the best way possible, playing gungi with person he values. Netero got btfo and died alone

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The queen did her best

Queen wasn't stupid, was she? Why the fuck she started eating humans for creating chimera ants and Meruem? She wasn't aware of dangers of ego and individuality?

She came from the dark continent, why would she know about the ego and individuality before she knew what humans were.

York New 99' > Hunter Exam 99' > Chimera Ant 11 > Greed Island 11 > Election 11 > Heaven Arena 99

lolwut

>But he didn't got BTFO.
Actually he did get BFTO. It was only for the RG that he able to be healed to normal but in the end, died to poison. Netero always wanted to die a warrior’s death and he got what he wished.

>She wasn't aware of dangers of ego and individuality?
How would she know about all of that? Besides she never met any living humans nor did she talked and get to know them personally. Also what’s wrong with eating humans?

Read the manga you disgusting pleb

I think he’s comparing the anime arcs between 99 und 11.

>Also what’s wrong with eating humans?
Nothing, if you want your son to question his purpose and place in existence instead of being perfect animal, symbol of dominance among other species
youtube.com/watch?v=UDTGFaC9SZA

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>being so low iq you didn't realize that chimera ants never interacted with humans before to know about their individuality and by the time the queen started eating them it was too late because they were mixed in with her blood too

Yeah, i forgot about that
It's sad really. Pouf did nothing wrong

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Man, the top panel looks exceptionally nice

Learn to read; he did care and was unable to cope with the death of someone dear to him.

What will be Succession's anticlimax? Tse winning and then turning out to be a pretty good king?

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Masterpiece : Succession War / Kimera Ant
Extremely good : Election / Yorkshin / Hunter Exam
Very good : Greed Island
Quite good but lacking something : Heavens Arena
Quite

Doubt

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I want to impregnate Pitou and take responsibility!

We're in a thread talking about Chimera's ending and you're implying that Tse wouldn't be king because he's a bit ruthless?

Not him but I can immediately think of two, Knuckle vs Yupi when he explodes for the first time and Killua vs Binolt. Anyway I don't see what's the issue with that

I can’t believe it’s been 8 months, what is Togashi doing?

her ability is kino though get yourself yeeted to yeet others

>one hour = a decade of his life
There are 3600 seconds in an hour.
One hour of Emperor time would cost 3600 hours of life.
3600 hours divided on 24 means 150 days.

A decade is 87 660 hours (counting an extra day every 4 years), which would give Kurapica 24 hours and 21 minutes of Emperor Time activity.

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Why? Because it set up a Dragon Ball Z premise and solved it with realistic actions?

>tfw watching my original post become copypasta
feels good to be commemorated as a hunterchad

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Retarded opinion. Any list that doesn't have CA at the top is immediately retarded.

I love it, but not for the bad art and pointless deaths

Pitou and I are getting married and you're all invited!

this was pretty dark

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kek
Killua has no reason to be mad that Pitou took Gon's virginity before Killua
after all, Gon has been subject to cougar child prostitute tourists at Whale Island for years, remember?

1. Yorknew
2. Chimera Ant
3. Heaven's Arena
4. Hunter Exam
5. Succession War
6. Election
7. Greed Island

Fuck Greed Island.

Chrollo won't be making it off the boat alive

Bad b8

>exhausted, confused people
>no food
>no water
I wonder how many was eaten.

chrollo cant die silly

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None.

No blinding thinking the CA is the most flawless perfect arc in HxH is retarded. It has serious pacing and story issues in its middle portion.