Is anime cannibalizing itself on a creative level...

Is anime cannibalizing itself on a creative level? Has the media truly been overtaken by otakus who write and animate for other otakus?

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Been that way since the 80s, mate.

Almost as if animation is for nerds and chads read manga instead

Is the otakus that make the industry survive.

What percentage of the produced anime isn't based on other existing material?

>anime is produced by people who like anime for people who like anime
Oh no!

duh

Every industry is like that.. people that like video games make video games. People who like to read write books. People usually go in to career paths they have interest in.

Maybe to some extent, but no more than it always has been. I think that the artists which are most likely to influence future generations have a pretty broad range of interests outside of anime. Masaaki Yuasa for example has an appreciation for many Western animations, like Hedgehog in the Fog or The Man Who Planted Trees. And Naoko Yamada has cited many different foreign directors as an influence to her work, not to mention the other obscure influences she puts into her films, like decalcomania.

NO
FUCK YOU
YOU NEED A RESPECT FOR MY CRIPPLED WHEELCHAIR ACQUAINTANCE

A thread died for this. This board went to shit after the Kyoani fire.

The fandoms eventually always take over and ruin everything, this is the conceit of the masses.

Oh shit. You found out people who like anime make anime. What will we ever do?

Better than film and gaming where people who hate certain movies and games make said works within the medium.

you're noticing that now?

I blame Gainax for starting this trend

That's not why anime is cannibalizing itself.
It's cannibalizing itself because Anime is becoming less about creativity and more about making profits and in order to do so must copy whatever is popular. See the Isekai genre, and the battle harem genre, and the idol genre, etc.
It's why you see the same Copy+Paste MCs in their genres, it's why you see the same beats/tropes/cliches w/e you wanna call them.
Dream projects rarely exist anymore and if they do they go the way of Redline, commercial failures that no studio wants to risk money again so just rehash what works

yep, when it went digital it died

This. Anime is predominantly otaku.

>Dream projects rarely exist anymore and if they do they go the way of Redline, commercial failures that no studio wants to risk money again so just rehash what works
Nah, Trigger is still around.

An Exception, thankfully.
but even then Trigger still went for Nostalgia pops with Gridman or as we in the west knew it as Superhuman Samurai Squad

>Is anime cannibalizing itself on a creative level? Has the media truly been overtaken by otakus who write and animate for other otakus?
If by otaku you mean otaku, no.
If you mean "otaku", the meaning we give that word in The West, then yes.

This is actually a sensible post and lines up with what I've heard over the past four years pretty well, so I believe it.

No

Yes. It’s a nepotistic practice that’s killing the medium in the same way that Hollywood is killing itself.

Yes, but you have to remember that the definition of “otaku” in 80’s Japan was broad. There were many influences from western media that made anime what it was today. Meanwhile, anime never ventures further than other anime for inspiration. This kills the diversity of subject matter, settings and so on to be found and more.

Miyazaki's whole point was that anime is trying to reflect anime more than life and people aren't looking for new inspirations, wasn't it?

>ITT: Everyone misses OP's point

He's talking about how anime is now only drawing mostly on other anime for reference and inspiration instead of casting a wider net like they used to with anime emulating and drawing inspiration from 80-90's Hollywood films, etc.

But now that doesn't really happen anymore (because Hollywood and western films went to shit and Japan knows it) and now its drawing inspiration and references from a smaller pool - mainly other anime and other LN's. Thats why theres a large lack of originality, and so much isekai shit lately, cause thats most of what LN's get made.

/thread. Otakus, by and large, are the financial backbone of the industry. If they don't like something, it tends to bomb (with a few exceptions like Miyazakis stuff). Of course studios are going to shamelessly pander to them

This board has been going downhill for years

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the thing is it's not even being over taken by otaku, it's being over taken by otaku lites who watched k-on reruns on tv once and think their life's purpose is to write shitty LNs that they alone have a unique take on, they should start imposing an age limit on writers in Japan, anyone below 26 shoudn't be allowed near a writing job

yes

This board hit rock bottom in 2013

This.

And that's a good thing, people who like anime are making anime for people who like anime. Thank you Japan.

>Anime is becoming less about creativity and more about making profits
And that's why, according to salesfags, everything is a "flop".
Looks like the plan isn't working.

Another user who didn't learn about genres in school.