What shonen has the least amount of asspulls?

>shounen

Assclass and Biscuit Hammer

Plotlet-kun, please realise that ultimately it is a writing choice to give Deku his 7 possible quirks and that by doing so, it destroys any narrative tension or character growth as if he writes Deku into a tight spot, he can always asspull a get out of free quirk for him. "Foreshadowing" doesn't excuse it as it's very easy to plan ahead for it. Think about it this way - is it more creative and interesting for Deku to surmount challenges with clearly defined rules, or with a random new power? It allows for lazy writing, which as we've seen, is what he wants.

Bleach and Jojos

>The premise is an asspull
Another example that you faggots turned that term into a shitty buzzword

Inb4 complaining about things that hasnt happened yet
Inb4 he has to work harder to master the quirks

World Trigger, fucking retards.

>7.85 on MAL
Lmao no thank you

Initial D

>An old man having less stamina than a teen is an asspull
Fuck off

Oh nice, didn't know that. The lower the better.

That's good. Any series above 8 on MAL is shit.

imagine be so retard to lose a race because of a fucking squirrel

>O MY FLAMING FIST
>O MY HAMON ERUPTION
>O MY SAME TYPE OF STAND
>O MY PARKING BRAKES
>O MY REQUIEM ARROW
>O MY STAND DISC
>O MY INFINITE ROTATION
>O MY ROKAKAKA FRUIT

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Noragami

Tricky question all of them full of them.

Its practically asspull free save for a few little ones like Cosmo vs Murdercop. Only other right off my head would just be how much Ohma took and kept going for a while.

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I’m kinda surprised it’s that high. The anime was legitimately shitty.

Yugioh. Never has a series had so few asspulls.

There is not a single shounen without at least some asspulls.

What the fuck dude, did you even play the game back in middle school?
>youtube.com/watch?v=-0DI7z4gKf0

Ashita no Joe

nice bait

I know this is bait but
>O MY LITERAL CHEATING

Didn't Ohma literally became stronger after a coma dream?

Probably something that gets axed before it reaches chapter 20.

I appreciate you took the bait, thanks user.

There is no such thing as a perfect story. Even The Lord of the Rings had some stretches. Flawed beings cannot make perfect work contrary to Yea Forums's ridiculously high expectations for storytelling.

Perfection being in impossibility is not an excuse to make a revolting story of crap after crap

>There is no such thing as a perfect story.
Oh boy, have you heard of a story about a guy who falls in love with a girl?

have sex

This, OPM retards are seething in the replies because they are fragile little kids who are sad their favorite anime (garbage) got exposed.

>have sex

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Have kids

Of course not, but you have to admit that Yea Forums really enjoys nitpicking and blowing things out of proportion. Well, I guess that really goes for all of this site.

Fullmetal Alchemist. Everything power-related makes perfect sense with the rules already stablished and whatnot.

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Ashita no Joe

O my brain transfer in aot

It may be an asspull but isnt the series supposed to be a joke/deconstruction? Its acceptible in that context

>O my brain transfer in aot
Oh, come on
Start at the very begging
>oh I can shift into Titan mode

lol, nice joke user.

>inb4 complaining about things that haven't happened yet
But that's literally what you're doing dumbass, you don't know that your doom prophecy of quirk ex machinas will happen

>O MY PORTAL OF TRUTH

A reveal /= asspull

When was it ever stated that ofa stockpiles? And dont give me whole vision he had of the previous users that doesnt prove anything.
It also never states it copied the abilities of previous users, at best it could be said that it got stronger the more its passed around.
You faggots are literally grasping at straws to justify shit writing.

I'm not the user you're replying too but I do think there is good reason to be a bit wary about the 7 quirks ordeal. First off, it brings up some rather awkward questions such as, how come All Might or anyone before him have access to these quirks? And does he really need 7 more quirks? I'm sure a good writer can take this concept in an interesting direction but my faith in Hori is rocky. Secondly, I think it could introduce some pretty bad powercreep by the end of the series. Deku was already one of the strongest in his class with just super strength, how the hell is the rest of cast not going to be left in the dust by the time Deku masters a few more quirks? And finally, like the other user mentioned, this concept introduces a lot of potentially asspull-ish/lazy writing routes for future scenarios, not saying that it WILL happen but the possibility is there. To be honest I wish Deku had a more interesting quirk from the get, superstrength is yawn-tier but at least Hori found a few ways to make it some what interesting until around the Muscle fight. Hell, I think quirks should have been thought out a bit more, at least when it comes to a more solidified method of training/evolving them. But that's just my two cents.

Fucking idiot

Nah, the memories started resurfacing due to overusing Advance. Becoming Cohma was because while he won against Raian, Raian also beat his shit in enough to be out for a while.

I remember bnha scrotes praising the living shit out of it for how good it did the generic shonen underdog story and for the fact that Deku actually "suffered consequences" each time he pulled some more super strength out of his ass.
7 quirks destroys all of that. It is literally impossible to salvage aforementioned elements by this point.

HxH, unironically

>7 quirks destroys all of that. It
How?

Alluka and O my rubber nen off the top of my head. But they're far from being severe enough to affect my appreciation or enjoyment of the story.

stop using the word 'literally' you zoomer

wow Yea Forums actually likes one joke man?
I am disgusted

One Piece has a really low amount of asspulls when you take into account the length of the serie.

>story about a boy who had no special abilities in a world where most people have them who dreams about becoming a hero, a.k.a. taking a job that is entirely dependant on having strong quirks
>except now he's been gifted a super power but his body literally destroys itself whenever he tries using it so it's ok
>lmao JK bitches he has 6 more secret rank 1 tier abilities that will reveal themselves at writer's convenience, baybee

all of the powerups at enies lobby and any rayleigh flashback

Black Clover.

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Again how does it destroy anything

>>story about a boy who had no special abilities in a world where most people have them who dreams about becoming a hero, a.k.a. taking a job that is entirely dependant on having strong quirks
>>except now he's been gifted a super power but his body literally destroys itself whenever he tries using it so it's ok
That's literally the plot summary of the manga and it happens in the fucking second chapter

>lmao JK bitches he has 6 more secret rank 1 tier abilities that will reveal themselves at writer's convenience, baybee
How does this change anything? Even if anything you said were trye to begin with

>all might and everyone else before him were retards and never noticed getting extra powers
wow

>speedreading
It wasn't that they didn't notice, it was that the quirk was not working that way before, this is some new development that Deku and AM still don't understand the full details and ramifications of, there's something fucky going on with Deku's version of OfA, and several theories as to why

Toriko

Dr slump

>how come All Might or anyone before him have access to these quirks?
OfA wasn't at a state for it to happen. Also what does it matter? its a plot point to be revealed later in the story

>And does he really need 7 more quirks?
>7
If you're gonna criticize something lean to fucking count. As shown within the story OfA is never reliable and they're situation where it isn't effective due to Deku's own lack of skill. With 6 abilities Deku can actually utilize his quirk knowledge instead of accustoming to a style he has no proficient use in doing.

>Deku was already one of the strongest in his class with just super strength, how the hell is the rest of cast not going to be left in the dust by the time Deku masters a few more quirks?
Deky lost to both Bakygou and Todoroki the latter he fought at 100%. He's also behind the rest in the class in terms of althetics also all the other characters are getting stronger through the course of the story alongside Deku.

>this concept introduces a lot of potentially asspull-ish/lazy writing routes for future scenarios
This is a worthless fucking argument until it fucking happens but given how Black Whip was handled it probably won't go like you faggots keep saying considering how run you were about Eri's quirk I wouldn't be surprised if you were wrong in regards to this too.

Deku is a demi-god now. He was set up to become one from the start but the story could have focused on his road. Instead it blew it's load early 7 times as hard with no end in sight.

>Even if anything you said were trye to begin with
How else do you expect things to develop? This is not rhetoric question. Give me examples of potential development of the 7 quirks thing that does not involve him pulling new convenient abilities out of his ass when needed. Otherwise they would have just revealed them all from the get go.

>Deku is a demi-god now. He was set up to become one from the start but the story could have focused on his road. Instead it blew it's load early 7 times as hard with no end in sight.
So he's mastered all these quirks is what you're saying

7 quirks wasn't an asspull, since it was heavily foreshadowed. It was just a bad idea.

>It was just a bad idea.
Only if you're retarded

>blew it's load early
but user
its already 5 year since the start of manga

He does not even have to master them the way he has to master his strength quirk. This whole concept very conveniently ties in with a single thing Deku was already exceptionally good at before OfA: knowing and being able to classify a bunch of quirks and how they interact with each other.

>He does not even have to master them the way he has to master his strength quirk.
>mastered his strength quirk
>8%

I'd agree with you if there was any chance that it would end soon. But it is not ending for years. In fact 7 quirks is clearly a last minute attempt to shoehorn 10 more years worth of potential "development" into the story.

>"has to master" = "mastered"
Would not expect reading comprehension from bhna shills.

>He does not even have to master them the way he has to master his strength quirk.
He does dumbass

>This whole concept very conveniently ties in with a single thing Deku was already exceptionally good at before OfA
Yeah that's why he's only at 8% you stupid bitch

The people who hate this continue to make themselves look stupid and I'll continue to make fun of your dumbasses.

He does not have to develop other quirks nearly as hard just by the virtue of being able to combine effects of multiple weaker quirks to asspull his way out of any fight by being """smart""".

And what side effects do you expect those quirks to have? His first can literally explode his body into chunks if he overdoes it. It will most certainly be either same shit but not as fun or some sort of "mana" mechanic that he would run out of which is also same shit and also not nearly as interesting.

>He does not have to develop other quirks nearly as hard just by the virtue of being able to combine effects of multiple weaker quirks to asspull his way out of any fight by being """smart""".
Wow...nice headcannon. I guess you can see into the future now.

>And what side effects do you expect those quirks to have?
Jesus Christ. Its like you don't fucking read the manga.

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I seriously don't remember any asspulls in Black Clover. Does asta's demon form count as one?

If you need any proof that this is a shitposting thread this is it.

>it just hurts him without exploding his limbs
Literally what I said.

>Literally what I said.
No actually it wasn't. Try again dumbass.

>quirk that hurts like a bitch and explodes his limbs
>vs
>quirk that just hurts like a bitch

"same shit bun not as fun"

Why do you people read shonen if you don't like the idea of the protagonist conveniently growing more powerful. In every thread about this shit no matter the series there's one retard expecting who knows what and getting annoyed

>the mere mention of black clover is making herofags seethe

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It's like porn. You naturally want to see the bitch be as visibly horny as possible, the hornier the better but it also has to be convincing. Asspull is a shonen equivalent of a whore overacting poorly on camera or a cameraman slipping and revealing that she doesn't even have a dick inside of her at certain points.

Black Butler, FMA, Magi and Servamp.
Women write less asspulls in shonen but you need to get used to the fujobait.

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>Black Butler, FMA, Magi and Servamp.
Thanks for the laugh

I don't remember any particularly egregious ones in Stone Ocean.

> Biscuit Hammer
I'm going to smash you with a giant hammer user.

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No, that's the premise, you dumb inbred bastard.

>since it was heavily foreshadowed
It was never foreshadowed. It was never hinted at, no one ever did any variation of it, it didn't exist until Deku pulled it out of his ass.

>It was never foreshadowed. It was never hinted at, no one ever did any variation of it
This screams I SPEED READ

That literally the thing that start the whole series.

Fullmetal Alchemist. Everything is generally fairly straightforward and there's no double backing once something is stated

Retard
>vague all might wording on quirk
>totally not asspull ghosts in sports festival
>maybe it could have passed the other quirks and you have no evidence to the contrary so it happened
>totally not unrelated concept of quirk singularity
>muh vestiges and dreams

>Fullmetal Alchemist.
Nope

Unless you want to call anything Scorpion-related an asspull, I suppose.

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Bobobo.

Yep.

Or that I'm willing to admit Hori is a flawed writer.

>vague all might wording on quirk
Wasn't vague. All Might said what he believed as he had no knowledge of additional quirks existing. No one did.

>totally not asspull ghosts in sports festival
It was mentioned that others saw the ghosts. They never did anything but inspire though.

>maybe it could have passed the other quirks and you have no evidence to the contrary so it happened
Doesn't really matter when no one had access to or knew it existed. What happened was the equivalent of if Gon started using Nen techniques no one else knew existed.

>totally not unrelated concept of quirk singularity
Which was never stated or hinted at doing its current function.

>muh vestiges and dreams
Same as above. People got then, didn't amount to anything.

Nope

>ippo
Oh come on that shit is asspull central.

>Fullmetal Alchemist.
O MY EASTER ALCHEMY

>Or that I'm willing to admit Hori is a flawed writer.
No you just speed read

You don't even know what an asspull is do you

This has to be bait, otherwise you and the other guys are retards. An asspull would be doing something that was hardly even mentioned or referenced prior to the context of the story. Saitama being strong through push ups is not an asspull, asinine yes, but ass pull no. An as pull would be if Sonic suddenly pulled out a move that be Saitama for no reason, even though its been established that Saitama is more or less the strongest character in universe.

The reason why the 7 quirks thing is called an asspull is because there was nothing prior to even hint at it being more than piling up absurd physical strength up until now.

can't have asspulls if everyone cheats except Kaiba

>All Might said what he believed as he had no knowledge of additional quirks existing.
Nothing All Might said contradicts what was explained about OfA though which is where the connection was made. He doesn't have to have known that quirks also transferred because all he knew was as much as his teacher.

>It was mentioned that others saw the ghosts
Wrong. All Might mentioned that you couldn't interact with the ghosts which was proven false since Deku interacted with them during the Sports Festival

>Doesn't really matter when no one had access to or knew it existed.
Except the first and Nana knew. Its more than likely that all the previous users gain knowledge of what OfA's true goal was before they died

>Which was never stated or hinted at doing its current function.

Pic related. Read slower.

>People got then, didn't amount to anything.
Wrong again dumbshit.

Just admit that you're mad because you didn't predict it and move on with your life because this is pathetic.

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I know this is b8, but i'll always enjoy Asta far more as MC than Deku simply for the fact that he was far more proactive than Deku. Even when he knew he had literally no chance to gain magic he put his all into the only thing he could control, his physical strength, and luckily that paid off dividends. Deku would've still been a whiny bitch had it not been for All Mights interference

Toriko is asspull; the manga

>ku. Even when he knew he had literally no chance to gain magic he put his all into the only thing he could control, his physical strength, and luckily that paid off dividends.
Asta would have been nothing without his grimoire so in essence it was pointless.

>Deku would've still been a whiny bitch had it not been for All Mights interference
So you admit you don't even read the fucking manga.

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Its funny rereading through the first chapter and realizing how absolutely wrong you are. Saying Deku isn't proactive when he still went about trying to achieve his dream despite everyone telling him it was impossible and not caring.

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I see Herocucks are still coping with the fact that their series is a garbage with declining rank, declining sales and noone taking it seriously since O MY 7 QUIRKS.

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Merely pretending, right user?

OH NO NO NO NO NO

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Pure Ranking
>1 ( 214 ) My Hero Academia
2 ( 143 ) Kimetsu no Yaiba
3 ( 96 ) Bokutachi wa Benky? ga Dekinai
4 ( 120 ) The Promised Neverland
5 ( 144 ) Yuragi-s? no Y?na-san
6 ( 44 ) Jujutsu Kaisen
7 ( 335 ) Haiky?!!
8 ( 7 ) Chain Saw Man
9 ( 19 ) Shishunki Renaissance! David-kun
10 ( 226 ) Hinomaru Zum?
11 ( 296 ) Shokugeki no S?ma
12 ( 6 ) Ne0;Lation
13 ( 5 ) Gokutei Higuma

Whelp.

>Best-selling manga series for the first half of 2019 (Japan)

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>Not even in the Top 3

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>Best-selling manga series for the first half of 2019 by volume

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>Not even in the Top 5

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Imagine being this pathetic

>Amazon

Average Ranking (8 Weeks)
1 [ 1.33 ] One Piece
2 [ 1.57 ] Kimetsu no Yaiba
3 [ 3 ] Dr. Stone
4 [ 3.25 ] Yakusoku no Neverland
5 [ 3.67 ] Black Clover
6 [ 5 ] Samurai 8 Hachimaru-den
7 [ 5.14 ] Boku no Hero Academia
8 [ 5.33 ] Act-Age
9 [ 5.5 ] Bokutachi wa Benkyō ga Dekinai
10 [ 6.5 ] Chainsaw Man
11 [ 6.67 ] Jujutsu Kaisen
12 [ 7.17 ] Hinomaru Zumō
13 [ 7.33 ] Haikyū!!
14 [ 9.43 ] Yuragi-sō no Yūna-san
15 [ 10 ] Futari no Taisei
16 [ 11.5 ] Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui
17 [ 12.13 ] Saigo no Saiyūki

OH NO NO NO NO NO

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>Asta would have been nothing without his grimoire so in essence it was pointless
That literally doesn't matter though. He wants to be strong, so he trains to be strong. Deku just takes notes, he doesn't train until he meets All Might
>posts deku being a whiny bitch
what are you trying to prove

>Nothing All Might said contradicts what was explained about OfA though which is where the connection was made. He doesn't have to have known that quirks also transferred because all he knew was as much as his teacher.
He doesn't have to, but for it to actually be a "foreshadow" someone would have had to. It was never mention that was a capability or potential of the quirk. No one knew it existed or performed some variant of it. If you want to know how that's properly done, read Hunter x Hunter. I used that previously as a example because it did of good job of foreshadowing and showcases nen abilities before they were understandable to both the reader and protagonists.

>He doesn't have to, but for it to actually be a "foreshadow" someone would have had to.
That's literally not what foreshadowing is dipshit.

Cope Herotard your shit series dying

Based

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>That literally doesn't matter though.
Of course it does because it shows that he would have gone nowhere without it. You bringing it up constantly doesn't mean shit and only to highlight the contrivance of his grimoire being two heavy swords.

>posts deku being a whiny bitch
>literally the opposite

So you're just seeing what you want to see at this point.

>If you want to know how that's properly done, read Hunter x Hunter.
Stopped reading there.

Actually, it is. It's just not limited exclusively to that. None of the other methods were used either though.

Imagine being this pathetic

Keep reading, then actually read the manga.

>Actually, it is
Actually its not. Foreshadowing can be done in many different ways. You don't have to directly tell your audience what the mechaniation does you just have to give clues for them to figure out in which in this case it was exactly that but you're to stubborn to admit it either because you're a brainlet or because it goes against your headcannon.

>ut you're to stubborn to admit it either because you're a brainlet or because it goes against your headcannon.
All this. People just can't admit it was foreshadowed so they have to make up bullshit excuses

So, exactly what I just said? Alright.

>So, exactly what I just said?
Nope

No it doesn't matter. Asta wants to be strong, he doesn't know wheter or not he'll get some stupidly OP power, he doesn't know wheter or not his training will change anything. He trains because he's determined to do it.
Deku is just a whiny bitch and doesn't do anything to get strong. While that is definetly more realistic than Asta, these are kids comic in a kids magazine. They're not supposed to be realistic, they're supposed to be motivational. If they were realistic both Asta and Deku would just stopped thinking about being strong after an age and just live as average people

It has to actually be foreshadowed for people have to admit to it.

Then you should read again.

Yes, it's quite literally stated verboten that OFA stockpiles power from one holder to the next.

>Asta wants to be strong, he doesn't know wheter or not he'll get some stupidly OP power, he doesn't know wheter or not his training will change anything. He trains because he's determined to do it.
So he's training for no purpose then.

>Deku is just a whiny bitch and doesn't do anything to get strong.
He trained for a year and even before that he studied his ass off.
>While that is definetly more realistic than Asta, these are kids comic in a kids magazine. They're not supposed to be realistic, they're supposed to be motivational. If they were realistic both
That's why Deku is a vastly more popular character than Asta right? I guess Hori did something right

>It has to actually be foreshadowed for people have to admit to it.
It was actually. Most people agree it was foreshadowed. You're having a hard time proving it wasn't though

>I don't understand what determination is
>it's better because it's more popular
the absoulute state of herofags

O

Imagine you can not type more than one sentence

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Berserk isn't shonen newfag.

MY

Have you read it? Guts gathered a crew ala one piece, including a loli witch, and a motherfucking veritable shounen protagonist. The loli witch was one of the worst things to happen to the series. The thief kid/shounen protagonist was another one of the worst. I have no idea what Miura was thinking there. The women are all in love with Guts by the way. No shounen is complete without a harem of women who exist to make the protagonist look cooler.

Magic was introduced along with the witch and the crew gained shounenesque (I'm using this word a lot) power ups and thus realism went entirely out the window. Guts got a power-up that was reminiscent of Sasuke's curse mark early in the Naruto series. The theme of camaraderie is more omnipresent and becomes more about the “power of friendship,” harem elements develop, the ruthlessness is reduced, there is a moe loli witch, there is now campy abilities and gimmicks, there is shitty power-ups, there is in-battle commentary by secondary characters, battles are often increasingly drawn out, yesterday's enemies are today's friends, etc.

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so what you're saying is its an asspull

Is there a character who's power is asspulls?

Yeah, it's clearly a shoujo

Do you know what shounen and seinen mean?

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>You're having a hard time proving it wasn't though
Not really. The defense of "you didn't read it properly" doesn't actually counter anyone. Especially someone using other works as an example.

Also, no one to date still can not explain why a quirk that's all about "gradual accumulation of power" can have one user not using any quirks but the base and the next using seven.

Yami Yugi.

King

Black Clover has asspulls built into the rules of the world, as characters getting new abilities when bursting with emotion is an inherent part of the power system. I'm sure some dumb teenager thinks that's clever when all it really does is make the storytelling feel less organic and more mechanical.

Yeah, and you're being intentionally retarded if you don't realize people are talking about the writing tropes of Berserk being similar to Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, etc when calling it a shonen.

>The defense of "you didn't read it properly" doesn't actually counter anyone.
Actually it does when you've proven you didn't actually read it properly.

>Also, no one to date still can not explain why a quirk that's all about "gradual accumulation of power" can have one user not using any quirks but the base and the next using seven.
How can the next user use six quirks when there's no accumulation to begin with? OfA doesn't work without the accumulation. Why don;t you think before you post.

Kinnikuman
>Black Clover
Almost every shounen has this though, including Bnha

Actually the defense is "look at all these context clues that's been given" and hey using fucking logic but that seems to be way to much for come people.

This has been explained. OfA is nothing with the accumulation so if the originator were to pass it on to the next person he would receive no actual power but the gradual built for several generatin would accumulate enough to allow it to grow which is essentially what happened. Why exactly would it grow after a few transfers?

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Nope just BC and a myriad of shitty ones

>Okay but the flaming fist thing isn't an asspull. He's literally just setting his hand on fire with nearby flames from the nearby lanterns Dio had up to keep his arm from freezing. Wouldn't call using your surroundings to your advantage an asspull.
>Hamon eruption is iffy for me, I get the logic with the stone of aja and whatnot, but his arm conveniently impaling Kars and the fact Joseph even survives the fall because he was on a rock is hard bs.
>Same stand bs is genuine bs to me. I honestly could have accepted it if at least SP didnt suddenly develop a new ability whenever it just happened to be convenient multiple times in the manga. Or hell just show Dio using his stands take on the the suck or star finger ability or something to enforce the same type of stand idea but nope. Joots can just suddenly time stop now. Dont question it. Its fate or something.
>ehh, it's irony. He was good as caught/dead after getting his ass kicked by Josuke and the gang already from a legitimate fight and couldn't use Bites the Dust anymore anyways so it's fine.
>Requiem arrow was set up earlier and established that, yes, it is very much an 'I win' button for whoever got it and the conflict arose from who obtained it first. So not an asspull by definition if still a bit poorly executed.

Haven't read 6-8 yet so I'll have to get back to you on the rest of those.

> Writing tropes
Then call it writing tropes. You are the one refusing to understand what is shonen and what is not. It's doesn't take much to know what's correct and what's not. Apply some brain power.
OP specifically said shonen. Berserk is not shonen. What's so difficult to understand?

Unironically HxH

You two misunderstand so I'll be clear. Why can All Might only use the base "super strength" as the most proficient OFA user while Deku gets access to multiple. And before you start, no that panel doesn't explain it because OFA by its very nature is always growing.

>10 [ 6.5 ] Chainsaw Man
>8 ( 7 ) Chain Saw Man

Based and Chainsawpilled

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>Haven't read 6-8 yet so I'll have to get back to you on the rest of those.
By read do you mean watched?

Ok, when did it happen in BC though? Because the only time I remember it happening is Noelle's magic armor and I think that "emotional burst" thing in that chapter was just bad translation

Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo from Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo.

BnHA just canonized it, yeah. Which is another load of shit. Unlocking the strength you need upon the conclusion of an emotional arc or discovering a new facet of one's self is common place in storytelling, not just in anime and manga. However making it an inherent part of the system is a sign that you've watched way too much anime because that shouldn't be how it works. This seemingly small change reduces the emotions to a power up.

To be clear, this is not the same as a story setting up a power up with a line like, "You need to learn something to unlock your full power"

>Why can All Might only use the base "super strength" as the most proficient OFA user
>the most proficient OFA
Nice headcanon retard

How can he be the most proficient OFA user when he never used it as intended?

Cope

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fujiwara zone is an asspull

>Why can All Might only use the base "super strength" as the most proficient OFA user
He was never stated to be the most proficient user just the only one who became well known as a result of the accumulation of the previous ones.

>while Deku gets access to multiple
Its mostly speculation at this point since its yet to be revealed but all signs point to OfA accumulation reaching the point where it was able to grow hence why Nana was told "it wasn't time yet". Which makes sense since OfA needs the accumulation to be worth anything.

Then who is more proficient?

Exactly what I'm asking.

>He was never stated to be the most proficient user
The main priority of the OFA users were to oppose AFO. Only one was able to actually do that. And did it a second time.

>Then who is more proficient?
How should we know? We've never seen how the previous users dealt with it.

So it conveniently reaches the multiple quirk asspul when Deku Stu gets it? And you defend this shit?

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Again where was it stated he was the most proficient user?

>So it conveniently reaches the multiple quirk asspul when Deku Stu gets it?
Actually it would have happened to anyone who came after All Might. Btw change your file name once and a while.
AfO's defeat by All Might came because the accumulation was at six users at the time he got it. That doesn't mean he was the most proficient user just the strongest at the time of his debut.

Read.
I stopped after part 5 a few months back after my laptop went to shit on me and I couldn't bother continuing reading after. That and something about Part 5's ending drained the hype out of me. I didn't hate it. Enjoyed quite a few moments from it but I dunno man just felt pretty unsatisfied when it was all over.

We need to lay it to rest. What happened in BnHA isn't necessarily an ass pull. All the signs were kinda there. It may have been a slight retcon/alteration or it could have been intended all along. Its only real sin is falling into the common shonen problem of having to suck the dick right off the MC because he's the double chosen one.

>chosen one
Retard

So Ofa grew to the point it was able to manifest past quirks, despite the fact Midoriya still can´t wield nowhere near as much power as All Might could in his prime or not having a quirk of his own to add to the stockpile. And even if the latter turns out to be the explanation, there´s absolutely no logical reason why the predecessors shouldn´t be able to use their predecessors quircks from the get go.

The sad thing is that this could have had a barely coherent explanation if it were the result of eri´s quirk (since that specifically reverts evolution or something), but hori couldn´t even put together brain cells for that.

Or even come up with a good explanation for why Monoma can´t copy OfA or Eri´s quirk, or how "power of wishing" somehow changed nighteye´s fight prediction, when it didn´t change his horrible prediction for all might´s future. Etc, etc, etc, no point in even going on.

>Actually it would have happened to anyone
That isn't how stories work, underage-kun. The author specifically wrote it so that it happens when the MC gets it, you damage controlling retard. So even if it isn't an "asspull", it's shit writing that reflects how much of a Gary Stu Deku is. Just like him conveniently being the first to overcome Nighteye's visions.

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>problem of having to suck the dick right off the MC because he's the double chosen one
bullied awkard kids need to self insert as the MC for their power fantasy though

Yeah, deciding to change something that makes entire sense is an asspull. Go fuck yourself.

/thread

If the Herocoper keeps replying after this BTFO, he outs himself as a braindead fanboy going through his Narutard phase. It's over.

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>Deku not a chosen one
Now you're as dumb as the people calling this a straight asspull

>So Ofa grew to the point it was able to manifest past quirks, despite the fact Midoriya still can´t wield nowhere near as much power as All Might could in his prime or not having a quirk of his own to add to the stockpile.
OfA continues to grow regardless of the aptitude of the user. AM was just a special case but clearly didn't get the bulk of what the othe rusers experienced. >And even if the latter turns out to be the explanation, there´s absolutely no logical reason why the predecessors shouldn´t be able to use their predecessors quircks from the get go.
Again WHY WOULD THE PREVIOUS USERS GET QUIRKS WHEN THERE WAS LITERALLY NO FUCIKNG ACCUMULATION FOR THEM TO DO SHIT WITH? You are literally arguing with a lac of information here ad pushing your shittyass headcannon as fact but from what little we know its because the acculmation wasn't enough for there to be a significant change. Maybe this was what the originator intended maybe not but there isn't enough information to base anything on.

>The sad thing is that this could have had a barely coherent explanation if it were the result of eri´s quirk
That would not make any fucking sense.

>Or even come up with a good explanation for why Monoma can´t copy OfA or Eri´s quirk, or how "power of wishing" somehow changed nighteye´s fight prediction, when it didn´t change his horrible prediction for all might´s future
And this is why you're not a writer.

You're basically saying every story has shit writing then and that every MC is a Gary Stu because they're the MC.
Yeah don't reply to yourself. Its embarrassing
How is he the chosen one when he's not even remotely special and this would have happened to anyone?

Didn't Aladdin have a few though? Though that was more because the readers dont know just how much Solomon's Wisdom could actually do.

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>That isn't how stories work, underage-kun. The author specifically wrote it so that it happens when the MC gets it, you damage controlling retard.
Do you realize how profoundly stupid you just fucking sound? There would be no story if Deku never got OfA so of course there would be something that only he can do with the quirk that the previous users cannot. What happened with Deku would have came about with anyone who was the 9th user its not because hes special just lucky.

>Just like him conveniently being the first to overcome Nighteye's visions.
You mean the atypical MC goes against fate which is common in every piece of fiction?

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>the readers dont know just how much Solomon's Wisdom could actually do.
Not if they actually have decent reading comprehension

>despite the fact Midoriya still can´t wield nowhere near as much power as All Might could in his prime
Deku's version of OfA is more powerful than All Might's for one. Whether AM could wield more power through his output is irrelevant since his couldn't do the same thing as Deku's.

> And even if the latter turns out to be the explanation, there´s absolutely no logical reason why the predecessors shouldn´t be able to use their predecessors quircks from the get go.

Why? Do you actually know how OfA should work better than the author or are you upset that he didn't follow your headcanon?

>The sad thing is that this could have had a barely coherent explanation if it were the result of eri´s quirk (since that specifically reverts evolution or something), but hori couldn´t even put together brain cells for that.

>Or even come up with a good explanation for why Monoma can´t copy OfA or Eri´s quirk, or how "power of wishing" somehow changed nighteye´s fight prediction, when it didn´t change his horrible prediction for all might´s future
Jesus Christ. No wonder you guys are absolute jokes. Of you truly believe you have the gall to criticize Hori's writing and come up with shit like this then you need to shut the fuck up.

>Black Clover has asspulls built into the rules of the world, as characters getting new abilities when bursting with emotion is an inherent part of the power system
This

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>Monoma can´t copy OfA or Eri´s quirk
But he can

The chosen one is someone who is to take all the burden of the world aka usually a shonen MC. He is the chosen one quite literally because All Might chose him and figuratively because he is likely going to be the end user of OfA since it just so happens to get to the point of bursting when that he gets access to all the past quirks.

>not remotely special
All Might wasn't going to give OfA to just anybody. He had potential and what made him special was his autistic drive to save people despite himself. Did you even read this manga? "Could have been anyone." Is that's some marketing bullshit people fall for.

Calling it a dud means it works?

By logic and deduction. OFA was born from AFO shenanigans as a way of opposing. AFO reign was considered a dark age that was ended by the rise of All Might, who was also noted as the greatest hero. So clearly that title belongs to him until Deku develops.

>That doesn't mean he was the most proficient user
It kind of does actually. As far as its known, OFA users pick a successor and oversee their training and development. All Might was trained in a way perceived to be the best way of using OFA. That makes him the most proficient at it as his training regime was based around maximizing his quirk.

Dr Stone
>O MY ONE BILLION IQ
>O MY ENDURANCE
>O MY POWER
>O MY ROCK COLLECTION
>O MY HANDICRAFT
>O MY PSYCHOLOGY
Everyone's fucking superhuman

>every invention in human history was an asspull because they just spontaneously figured out something

>The chosen one is someone who is to take all the burden of the world aka usually a shonen MC.
No the usual shounen MC was born special or destined to something to which Deku was not he was even given OfA as pity and wasn't even the first or best candidate for the job.

>Yea Forums is not Yea Forums tier they said

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>All Might was trained in a way perceived to be the best way of using OFA.
His training wasn't anything special. He was a good vessel to contain the power and not much else.

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>they just spontaneously figured out something
Brainlet thinks people just pulled ideas out of nowhere and didn’t look to already existing things for inspiration

What does that have to with good writing?

>how is a person CHOSEN by a godlike being to inherit biggest power for concrete purpose of saving and inspiring people all over the world a chosen one?

I give up. These are the same people who think that Deku writing things down in a fucking notebook before an exam that he was guaranteed to fail equals to him showing some sort of real monumental effort in the universe where people with completely useless abilities like sticky balls and binocular eyes can pass if they actually do shit to prepare instead of watching YouTube and masturbating all day like Deku did.

The quirks need time to change up power to be usable. Monoma grew a horn like Eri

This entire argument can be summed up as 'it doesn't count".

>he was even given OfA as pity
That is beyond wrong. I seriously hope you don't think that or you're reading the manga/watching the anime wrong. Once again he had the potential which made him someone who could become the best candidate and All Might saw that and chose him. He was indeed special.

>the accidental discovery of penicillin was an asspull, god is a shitty writer

>That is beyond wrong.
Read slower

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Did you seriously just speed read through the biggest revelation of the manga?

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Even if we pretended that counts as an asspull OP asked for amount of asspulls and that would still be only one

Alright, now defend wishing energy.

You are a retard who can't get into metaphors. Next stupid question.

The way I interpreted it was that he saw Deku before he met Mirio and decided Deku was worth it through the events that occurred like they showed in the earlier parts of the manga not eh I'll just give it to this guy instead.

>people actually defending 7 quirks
He hasn't even mastered his first one despite it being pretty much the strongest quirk in the setting. It's like Oniisama from Mahouka's bullshit where apparently giving him one overpowered ability wasn't enough, they had to give him half a dozen others as well.

There's no threat and no tension anymore. He can't lose fights because he'll just pull one of the new quirks out of his ass and he'll be an instant expert at it with no training whatsoever. It's playground pretend fighting with 8 year olds, "my guy can't lose because I have all the powers".

>Using MAL.
Fuck off.

If you read it as a whole with the next chapter Deku's devastation is that All Might is fated to die. And AM is not a type of person to choose someone out of pity.

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All these people bitching about multiple quirks when obviously its a powerup to help Izuku challenge All For One. AfO has had generations to pick out the best quirks in his arsenal.
Lemme just repeat that for the brainlets. The big bad villain has had literally generations of time to prepare to fight the next One for All hero. So naturally, if izuku is expected to actually be the one to finally put AfO down like the rabid dog he is then he needs a better repertoire of tools than just "I punch good"

At least wojaks and frogshit is deleted for most of time.

It was mostly seen as a pity decision on his part. Maybe pity isn't the right word to use but certain;y fool-hearty, The point is that there were better candidates lined up for All Might to choose and part of the Yakuza arc showcasing Mirio the way it did was to show he would have made just as good as a candidate and maybe even a better choice than Deku.

The big bad got his shit kicked in by a guy who barely had any power left in him. And before that he got crippled and blinded by the same guy at full power with only one quirk.

AfO is a fucking joke.

AFO isn't a problem anymore. He's past his prime and lost to All Might twice. It's the doctor and the Nomu that's a real problem.

>He hasn't even mastered his first one despite it being pretty much the strongest quirk in the setting.
What first quirk? There's no first one what Deku has always been using is the accumulated power.

>There's no threat and no tension anymore. He can't lose fights because he'll just pull one of the new quirks out of his ass and he'll be an instant expert at it with no training whatsoever. It's playground pretend fighting with 8 year olds, "my guy can't lose because I have all the powers".

Complain when it actually happens.

>can't even defend wishing energy.

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Of course I can but you're still going on about wishing energy being a literal fucking thing.

>ITT retards who think asspull = "anything about it that I don't enjoy"
It's like people can't use more than a word to describe what they mean.

Im-fucking-plying

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here's that (you) you wanted so badly

Same with jobber and mary sue

Hokuto no ken

>let me post a page that does nothing to actually counter the argument
HE LOST YOU FUCKING MORON

HE LOST TWICE

"OH IT WAS ALL PART OF MY MASTER PLAN"

GUESS WHAT HE'S A JOKE

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT ME TO TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY WHEN HE JOBS IN HIS FIRST REAL FIGHT AND WHEN HE EXPLICITLY LOSES TO THE MAIN CHARACTER'S MENTOR YEARS BEFORE

ALL THESE VILLAINS ARE COMPLETE LETDOWNS

If you actually read what he says, he's hyping up Tomura. He was basically predicting the recent arc, which is basically a training arc for the league. So unless he plans on bodyswapping with the ghoul, he's basically out of the picture.

Or calling the author a hack

yeah smash that caps lock harder senpai! surely your use of all caps will convince the other brainlets

The term is "foolhardy" and yes I can agree with that more however I cannot see AM having chose Deku out of some negativity. He has said time and again that Deku has shown a spirit worth passing OfA to.

Showcasing Mirio if anything is to sort of argue against Deku being the chosen one but can also be seen as another example and goal that Deku needs to work towards aka what makes a commendable hero and they both are already similar in their sense of justice.

Then please do. I was debating on dropping MHA after the 7 quirks thing only to realize that I put I mental block on the wishing energy ending.
what made it worse was that Sir Nighteye went on to explain how he saw a vision of midoriya losing, only to have one of the biggest asspulls in shounen happen. if you can explain it then please do. if not then stay seething.

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ShingeKI NO Kyojin (SnK) / Attack ON (IK) Titan (AoT)

I can't think of a single asspull in this masterpiece.

Oh wait- ShingeKI NO Kyojin (SnK) / Attack ON (IK) Titan (AoT) is not a shounen, it's a seinen. I'm sorry lads, I'm in the wrong here, shouldn't come to a teenager's thread.

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>tumblr post
>Deku tried really really hard!
>"Eri's quirk also probably contributed" (literal headcanon because they know it's shit writing)

So even worse than I thought. How pathetic.

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>BC reaction image
>didn't even read the post

I'll give you a D- for effort

>I can't think of a single asspull
>posts O MY LOLI PATH'S RESURRECTION

Is this post supposed to be ironic? Also, SnK is mediocre, kid. We debunked your entire series in this thread.
desuarchive.org/a/thread/190531610

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The tumblr cope-post literally says "Eri's quirk also probably contributed". It's right there. HEADCANON speculation because they know the real answer (Deku tried so hard and powered up and he's so perfect and he's the MC) is shit garbage writing for toddlers. Keep coping, loser.

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Sorry, I don't enter conversations with teenagers with 0 arguments about the masterpiece that is ShingeKI NO Kyojin (SnK) / Attack ON (IK) Titan (AoT).

>Didn't read post
>BC reaction image

Not even trying now

>tumblr post
>head cannon including Eri
>nighteye didnt believe
see I would've been fine if it was just Eri doing a thing. But no it had to be wishing energy.

HxH or KnY

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Fairy Tail

look at this seething BNHAtard
Just admit that your series is shit.

>literally Yea Forums tier now
Calm down, it aint that bad.

Well done on not knowing what OfA does, speedreader.

>lose the argument
>"d-didn't read"

Holy fuck this amount of denial in front of hard evidence is literally proving why MHAtards are worthless cancer. You fucks are really the low of the lowest scum.

Feels good to dab on such a garbage series & garbage fanbase.

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>lose the argument
You have to refute the argument in order to claim if someone has lost. Now continue to post reaction images of your irrelevant series.

Didn't that still require an environment where all its components could meet? Comparing the discovery of penicillin to storytelling would be more accurate if you used it to explain why it's not jarring when important characters happen to gather together and get the plot rolling. The guy who discovered it did not get really angry and manifest penicillin into existence immediately when it would be most useful for him to use it.

what a fuckin retard

It's funny. When i was an anime only i asked people if OfA shouldn't pass down the quirks of people who already had one when they got OfA. (7 quirks hadnt happened yet.)
People called me retarded.
Well who's retarded now? Assholes.
It's completely logical that OfA works like this.

Interesting angle, and the basic idea that Nighteye´s quirk wasn´t infallible but accurate enough that he believed it was is sound. No idea why eri´s power would factor into it,

But there is a basic problem with it, which is that if that were the case then some predictions would been ever so slightly different from the real course of events, if only by random chance, and there would have evidence that future could change.

Having the only exception be because someone is stubborn enough to stay the same regardless of circumstance doesn´t work, both because it didn´t change any conditions made during the prediction (the hero stayed the same), and because the hero didn´t actually do anything to change the outcome, since he would have done what he did even without any prediction. If this could work, why didn´t it ever work before, especially since nighteye had an entire career of heroing fighting alongside all might, who inspired midoriya in the first place?

The set up does not fit the the outcome -> it´s an asspul.

If you want an example of a "prediction" power being handled right, just look at jin from world trigger.

>o my conciousness transfer
>o my loli godness
>o my fake memories

He will still need to master all these quirks. Which is in a way, much harder than just becoming PUNCHKICK HARD GUY.

>Having the only exception be because someone is stubborn enough to stay the same regardless of circumstance doesn´t work
You do realize that it wasn't just because of Deku right? It enforced that Nighteye had so much confidence in his own ability that he forgot that fate can be changed by the simple act of belief and pretty much gave up when driven to the end of his life.

>The set up does not fit the the outcome -> it´s an asspul.
Yeah you not only missed the point but didnt even get how the setip works. This is why you're a fucking joke that can't even follow a simple shounen manga.

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>loli goddess
Should I go back to reading SnK?

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>btw theres special titan powers only used by a certain family
>btw i can transfer my conciousness to my cock
>btw I can survive having my fucking head exploded
>btw I cant hear a massive titan on all 4s sprinting at me and allow it to rescue a prisoner
>btw instead of the leader of the entire country lets save a 15 year old bc these emotional teens said so
SnK is absolute dog shit

>He forgot that fate can be changed

He never believed it could be changed in the first place. That´s literally the whole point behind his despair at seing his prediction of all might´s horrible fate, way before he even met midoriya, and something all might only managed to doubt, but not disprove.

That´s some advanced level of denial you are running on user, but I think you´re getting through to the truth.

Shijou Saikyo no deshi Kenichi
we literally see him train out the new techniques he uses in the future
including stuff like not being so afraid of armed enemies, not just techniques

>But there is a basic problem with it, which is that if that were the case then some predictions would been ever so slightly different from the real course of events, if only by random chance, and there would have evidence that future could change.

That's literally the absolution that the arc presents that the reason why Nighteye claims his predictions never fails is that he himself didn't actually put forth to do so and just left it as is.

>Having the only exception be because someone is stubborn enough to stay the same regardless of circumstance doesn´t work, both because it didn´t change any conditions made during the prediction (the hero stayed the same), and because the hero didn´t actually do anything to change the outcome, since he would have done what he did even without any prediction.
What the fuck are you talking about?Its lie you're not even trying to make sense.

>He never believed it could be changed in the first place.
Wrong again dipshit. I always love the fact when dumbfucks lie you try to dismantle the writing of the manga and yet prove that you don't actually read it.

>Shijou Saikyo no deshi Kenichi
That's filled with asspulls especially towards the end when Syn just gave up

A quirk that straight-up predicts the future is very dramatically unsatisfying, but Nighteye's explanation that collective belief in a better future can actually change the future itself felt like a very clever way of tethering his quirk into Academia's general thematic focus. Heroism in My Hero Academia is always about how heroic action by individuals isn't just worthwhile in its own right - the essence of heroism is that it inspires others to believe in something, and pass that charitable, aspirational instinct along. Viewed in that light, Midoriya's triumph here feels like the embodiment of Academia's heroism; his strength, conviction, and personal magnetism were so great that they actually inspired enough people to genuinely change the world.

See that's a good explanation. Still I dont know if I'll go back to MHA, I don't enjoy reading it as much as the Vigilantes spin off.

Yeah FMA is one of the rare stories where it feels like everything was planned from the beginning. It's like the polar opposite of JoJo where everything feels like Araki had an idea a few pages before drawing it.

>the fritz/reiss family is the closest family who descend from ymir fritz and have the posses of the FT for like 2000 years.
>the core of shifters power is the spinal fluid, and the spinal fluid/spine is connected to the brain, in this add that the titan shifters are god-like being who die after 13 years.
> Cart titan (piek 's titan) is the faster of all the 9 titans and is able to make very long jumps (also titans are way more softer than how their weight should actually being, or not even a 6 metres would be able to move a feet)
> more than anything levi chosen to save armin, since erwin was nearly broken and would probably commit a suicide after discovering the truth of their "world"(aka they live on an island while the entire humanity exist, live into a 1900 era and hate all of the "wall humans" since they are a race of people who can be turned into titans)

If the quirk is fallible, random chance implies that in the past there would have been a situation where the collective belief in a better future would have changed it, especially in a life fighting AfO in his prime. This explanation would only have made sense if Nighteye were a kid that had discovered his quirk like last month, or an adult with a normal life.

As for the second part, imagine this situation: I see someone walking into a pit. I tell them that if they keep walking, they will fall into the pit. They answer back that they will not fall because they believe they won´t, and keep walking in the exact same direction. Is there any reason why that person wouldn´t fall into the pit? If this someone (say midoriya) tried to change direction the future changing might make sense, but what happened in bnha is that he didn´t fall into the pit, because it turns out you can walk on air if you believe you won´t fall (looney toons logic).

"Nighteye saw All Might die in his Foresight. And even though Nighteye tried his best to fight that outcome, he didn´t truly believe he could do it because he regards his Foresight as infallible, 100% truth and cannot be altered"

That´s from , and in no way implies that the future changed even once before he met deku, and thus had evidence that fate can be changed by belief, except he forgot about it.

And as for the manga itself, pic related. When your only argument is denying reality, you´ve already lost.

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The manga existed before the game.

You don't have to like something to know what it is.

go back to plebbit. You reek of it.

HxH. Just look how its only "asspull" isn't even an asspull but rather fags just went tired on waiting for it to have one, so they chose to meme the one they don't understand.

>pretending like conciousness transfer and surviving brain explosion wasn't just a massive asspull to create false tension
>way more softer
>move a feet
the intelligence of an SnK fan at it's peak
>erwin was nearly broken
mentally? lol wut? SnK fans retards confirmed. Also the information about them being on an island wasn't known yet you fucking tard

>Doesn't matter if he trained
Sure it does, makes him more plucky and more prone to root for than someone who gave up without ever trying just because someone else told them they can't,
>Deku is better because hes more popular
Lol. Deku is more popular because my hero had the advantage of starting nearly right after Naruto ended, filling that void promptly.

That says nothing about their character popularity, in which case the polls show Izuku dropping more and more in popularity, to his rival no less, meanwhile Asta is only outdone by his Chad of a Captain.

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FMA. Closest thing would be characters coming out of nowhere to save the day (Yomi running over Pride, Curtis family helping fight Sloth) and regeneration turning from “holy shit we can’t kill these guys” to “Mustang fucks Lust” and “muscular dudes just need to punch Sloth a few times”. Maybe Hohenheim’s existence? But that’s more of a plot thing.

This, honestly. Closest I can think of is Ed learning to use his own soul as a ghetto Philosopher's stone for extra energy in a transmutation. But even that's in keeping with the mechanics previously established.
I don't think you know what the term means.

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Look up the word asspull

>ô my ill little sister who makes me betray everything I was fighting for

It´s an asspul, because it only works for saitama, and not anyone else that does the same.

But muh limit is different for everyone else! Yeah no. People weaker that saitama at the start have done more, hell mumen rider probably bikes 10 times more daily that saitama ever did.

How many have done the same?

I literally pointed out one example in that post, but considering that genos points out it´s just a basic workout the conclusion is that he´s far from being the first.

But it´s okay, that´s the joke.

Actually isnt it kinda too early to say wishing energy was a real thing? he was on the dead bed and didnt at all look at the future of all might. chisaki is still alive and by now it could all be an "extra sequence" before the fate, nighteye saw, happens

JoJo

Everything is an asspull so nothing is

the asspulls are honestly probably the best parts of Jojo

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All Might took OfA from something unnotable given the almost total lack of knowledge of Nana and the previous users, to the strongest quirk in existence.
To call him anything but the most proficient user is retarded.

>fun is a buzzword you use when you can't think of any actual reasons a game is good
>just because the gameplay is good doesn't mean the game is good
>improvement isn't always a good thing

Berserk starts devolving into trashy Shounen because Miura's a hack. The series isn't actually a Shounen series though.

it turns into a shounen dark fantasy world but it itself isnt a shounen newfag.

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The absolute state of Boku No Posters

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It's still shit because he was given more quirks to work with even after the whole "He needs to learn how to use OFA or else he'll hurt himself"

>there are people who genuinely buy into the "every anime and manga is shit"

Why even be on Yea Forums then, Yea Forumstard-kun?

Fuck right on off back to mommy's spasm chasm faggot. Kys.

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this

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Hero Aca is an interesting case because the series is so god damn boring and uninspired that dramatic asspulls is the only thing that can breathe the slightest bit of life back into it. So the asspull train is just getting revved up, it's nowhere near done.

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>BUT ONLY DEEEEEKU CAN USE STOCKPILED POWERS

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>7
Coincidence? I think not.

Outside of the second Mystic Water Dragon Ball was pretty good about asspulls, most everything was hyped up well in advance.
Or when it was revealed it didn't 'win the day', like fusion or SS3.

>opm
>deconstruction
its just an unfunny comedy

>defending a hideous tumblr comic while posting another
Pottery

Came here to post this.

Excuse me fellow shonen protagonists, may I borrow some of these "asspulls" you speak of?

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What about Hunter x Hunter? The only one I can think of is Alluka, even then it’s pretty clear that using her was very consequential and risky.

O' MY WISHING ENERGY

only the ending

not that user but the point is that Deku didn't look for other alternatives to gain power nor he studied other heroes that rely more on their skills and strengths instead of their quirks, like the ones dedicated to rescuing. Hell, he didn't even search about the entrance exam.

His desire to become a hero was just that, a desire, not a goal that he had set on it, take a look at he already decided on quitting and look for something more realistic.

Deku is popular because the audience can self insert and he makes a good breading bitch.

Unironically My Hero Academia.
The 7 quirks were very possible since all the hints that were there duringb the quirk's explanation

...

>What shonen has the least amount of asspulls?
He probably will also awaken his own quirk later.

At this point it's just short of guaranteed.
Either
>Who would have thought! The power of One for All was needed to unlock Deku's amazing quirk!
or
>Who would have thought! Deku's natural quirk was the perfect match for One for All! With these combined, he'll be unstoppable! (End of chapter text: Deku was truly destined for this!)

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user I need to put you in a mental hospital for deficient intelligence.
>Set his own fist on fire with the environment
>Erupting a volcano with an already set up Red stone
>Araki already explained it, when DIO awakened his stand (due to the requiem arrow) he forcibly activated the stands of the Joestar bloodline. Since Joseph and Holly already had stands the Requiem arrow awakened Star Platinum
>That doesn't count you dumb fuck
>WE LITERALLY HAD AN ENTIRE ARC SETTING UP THE REQUIM ARROW YOU DUMB PIECE OF SHIT
>WERE YOU NOT PAYING ATTENION?!?!!??!?!? THE FUCKING STAND DISCS ARE ALREADY INTRODUCED IN THE BEGINNING OF THE FUCKING PART
>ININITE ROTATION WAS BUILT UP THROUGH EVERY FUCKING FIGHT AND EVERY FUCKING LESSON GYRO GAVE
>THE ROKAKAKA FRUIT WERE INTRODUCED IN THE FUCKING BEGINING YOU FUCKING SPEEDREADER

>nigger clover fans

Threadly reminder that this based user has been fighting Pico aggressors for 6 (SIX) MONTHS

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It's amazing how a spinoff can be better than the original

I can't grasp people defending with all they have a shit author. They aren't even payed. Sure you enjoyed the story for 4 years and that was great but if, suddenly, the story becomes shit, quit it or admit it is shit. It ain't a drug. It is not like your previous experience of the story that you enjoyed will change. It was a great story till then and that's it. You will just ruin the enjoyment by forcing yourself to read the story and by trying to come up with an explanation of the events that not even the author bothers to write (not literally write but an explation in universe).

daily reminder nu-Yea Forums is full of retards born in 1999 and the 2000s and these underaged faggots are the blind bokuhero spammers plaguing this shitty board for the past couple of years in conjunction with retarded crunchyroll shills

>All Might took OfA from something unnotable given the almost total lack of knowledge of Nana and the previous users, to the strongest quirk in existence.
Nice headcannon dumbass

the original dragon ball
goku got his ass kicked alot
alot

Pretty sure Saitama's simple backstory is supposed to mock the common trope of a character "training" for a really short period of time and becoming a demi-god as a result.

Like how in a martial arts manga, the MC just has to sit under a waterfall or do some poses in the mountains during summer vacation and they'll come back able to plow through a small army of yakuza.

I really don't understand all this drama about the 7 quirks.

To me the revelation was like when Ace appeared in One Piece. It was weird, unexpected, poorly built, but not the end of the world since it didn't ruin the tone of the story and could result in cool stuff.

I would have been more pissed if this special ability had appeared at the crucial moment of a fight against a big boss, for example.

Sory my bad england.

Give some asspull foor poor trionlet Osamu, he needs it :(

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kek and bhna fags will be like
>foreshadowed reeeeee
>remember the author that took the foto of his shit and posted it on twitter at the begging of the manga?
>look at the 1789x765pixel. That is right. Do you see it? Near the black thing on the shit? Yeah that's the name of Deku's power. Genius Hori. Foreshadowing such thing before even starting writing the manga.

Nah, the series is great. But you have to admit Ohma martial art, Niko style was pretty asspully

Specially Demonsbane (even if it was foreshadowed earlier)

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>If the quirk is fallible, random chance implies that in the past there would have been a situation where the collective belief in a better future would have changed it
The whole point being brought forth is that Nighteye himself pushed the notion that it was infalliable and the rest of the cast called out his bullshit.

>stuff

This is all bullshit speculation that only shows to prove that you didn't understand anything.

I fucking hate how right you two honestly are

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Nobody cares you dumbass. You were obviously too stupid to understand the intent of of what Hori was trying to put forth that or you're really fucking stupid.

Why are shounen threads always full of Yea Forumseddit?

>and in no way implies that the future changed even once before he met deku, and thus had evidence that fate can be changed by belief, except he forgot about it.
That's literally not the case. He himself didn't move to change fate like the rest of the case did. The entire point was that Nighteye refused to push against fate and he realized it shortly before his death.

Of course. 99% of WT consists of characters training. It's a manga about invasions without invasions kek.

It's funny that you wrote this while using The Promissed Asspulland as pic related.

alluka looks like an asspull now but isn't since nanika is almost 100% an Ai from the dark continent, which they haven't gotten to yet, meaning it will be explained.
and you see foreshadowing of alluka in a Zoldyck family photo earlier in the series.

Nope. Cope with your roll of combat wire you pleb.

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>Sure it does, makes him more plucky and more prone to root for than someone who gave up without ever trying just because someone else told them they can't,
Not really hence why nobody likes BC because of him.
>Deku is more popular because my hero had the advantage of starting nearly right after Naruto ended, filling that void promptly.
...My Hero started 7 months prior ro Naruto ending. BC came out after Naruto ended. Way to shoot yourself in the foot retard.

>That says nothing about their character popularity,
Of course it does.People love Deku while nbody gives a shit about Asta.

>in which case the polls show Izuku dropping more and more in popularity, to his rival no less, meanwhile Asta is only outdone by his Chad of a Captain.
Actually Izuku gets more votes every poll while Asta got less votes in the latest poll. Izuku also ranks in other polls like Animage and Newtype while Asta doesn't so I'll say he is vastly more popular that Asta.

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Dr. Stone

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What does this suppose to mean? You can;t just post a page and expect everyone to get it/

God damn, boku no fags have gotten emotionally needy

>tumblr comic
You have no clue what you're talking about.

SnK

>but the point is that Deku didn't look for other alternatives to gain power
Hey dumbass. YOU CANNOT BECOME A FUCKING HERO WITH NO FUCKING QUIRK. WHAT ALTERNATIVE HE COULD HAVE GAINED TO GET POWER WHEN HE IS NOT RICH AND BULKING UP WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN EFFECTIVE AGAINST FUCKING ROBOTS?

>nor he studied other heroes that rely more on their skills and strengths instead of their quirks, like the ones dedicated to rescuing
Those heroes have quirks and Deku did study every hero whenever there was a sighting.

>Hell, he didn't even search about the entrance exam.
He did hence why he studied.

Seems you know One Piece. Lets consider this. We have some kind of explanation for the devils fruit and we know that you die if you eat 2 because it will be like 2 demons fighting inside you, eventually killing you. There are exceptions like Blackbeard but we know he has a special body. How would you feel if you came to know that one dies after digesting two fruits by exploding but Luffy can't due to him being a rubber man and suddendly Luffy is shown to have eaten 4 broken devil fruits in the past without realization?
I could now start to argue that it was all foreshadowed and that his gearth 1 - 4 (and his gear 2nd never taking his lifespan) were actually the results of Luffy eating the devils fruit and not realizing and that nightmare Luffy also proves that he ate another one in Thriller bark but we still don't know its power (ignoring everything said and showed prior to that). Sure everybody that knew about the devil fruits said something else and did never mention this but it just means that they didn't know this, right...?
As if people don't realize that the character are just mere puppets written by the author. For some reason people really believe they are for real. If a character doesn't tell something and later on, there is an asspull, something the character should've known, it is not the character's fault but the author that still hadn't thought about it so he couldn't make the character tell it. Even he didn't know.
There is too much praising for author in some threads, like they are some Geniuses but they are really common man.

Hey remember that time Yea Forums kept saying Eri was going to bring back Nigheteye and restore Miiro's quirk before the end of the Yakuza arc? Remember all those other times Yea Forums was proven wrong and then bitched out anyways?

>I can't grasp people defending with all they have a shit author.

I can't grasped people calling an author shit when they themselves have nothing to back themselves with. Its not like the author can even see these comments to begin with.

>Help, Yea Forums is out to get me!

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>WHAT ALTERNATIVE HE COULD HAVE GAINED TO GET POWER
He could have been a great tactician.

>I really don't understand all this drama about the 7 quirks.
There's no drama at all. It was a popular theory for years and most people expected the outcome based on evidence. The series became massively more popular since then and attracted a lot of retards who will shit on it on every turn. Its been 6 months and there hasn't been an argument against it, that's how bad they are.

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>Gets proven wrong
>W-w-why are you so emotional

Is this how people argue nowadays?

It’s going to happen, guaranteed. His quirk will have been to ‘weak’ to activate naturally.

What the fuck are you talking about? That's not even the same fucking thing since OfA was a quirk that stored and transfered power.

>pic
This reads almost like a misfits synopsis

Yeah but he wanted to be a hero.

>This will happen this time! You'll see

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>everybody in universe has 1 quirks or at max, for some extraordinary event/power, 2-3 quirks
>main protagonist has 8
brilliant writing

Has Deku become a villain yet?
Has Bakugou succeeded All Might?
I dropped all this shit after the little girl rescue arc.

>everybody in universe has 1 quirks or at max
AFO, Giga there's also characters that can use multiple quirks at once like Monema and this was all established in the beginning of the manga. And hell if you want to go a step further it's relally one quirk with multiple abilities since OfA's function is primarily accumulation and the power it has were stacked up for years.

And rubber is immune to blast. You underage cunts can't even understand that OFA is in BNHA universe only, if I have to write an asspull in another story, I have to use that particular universe setting.
OFA used to store quirks as Rubber is immune to exploding so they can both have their asspulls. Got the connection after I spelled it out to you or you still need mommy to clear things?

Why did people drop among the most popular arcs in the series?

>makes this autistic greentext paragraph
>forgets to mention the part where Deku is conveniently the first inheritor to gain access to the other quirks
>despite your own bullshit insisting that they should have been passed to the others along with stockpile
other people read the manga you retard

Once again nothing you stated made sense. So I'm just going to write it off as you being a retard

>forgets to mention the part where Deku is conveniently the first inheritor to gain access to the other quirks
Why does this factor into anything? OfA gets stronger with each new user might as well say All Might was able to get the version of OfA that was able to conveniently defeat AfO yet none of the other users could.

Jojo.

Yeah that’s still not the meaning of asspull. Asspulls are basically deus ex machina that happen at a critical time, not something that’s the premise of the story established episode one and in the fucking title.

Well thanks for proving bnha fags are retards once again.

>What shonen has the least amount of asspulls?
Kimetsu no Yaiba

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>You can't expect every individual to have basic inference skills!
Obv

Can somebody tell me why are asspulls a bad thing?

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All those characters are included in the 'for some extraordinary event/power' that you didn't bother to reply to. And this leads back to my first post.

psyren has one (1) asspull

"Here Deku! Take our quirk energy!"

>'for some extraordinary event/power'
No they're not. Monema is a fucking joke character for starters

If the story takes itself too seriously, then it ruins the setup by breaking the rules it established earlier. JoJo is a perfect example of the opossite: asspulls are fucking everywhere, in every part and are mayor plot points (SP: The World, GER), but since its goal it's to be as stupid and bizarre as a story can get, nobody really cares.

Yes but it's also without asspulls, which is what this thread is about.
Sucks for everyone who picked this series up for the sci-fi stuff but I really don't give that much of a shit about the premise.

Tell me why do you think he is such.

Magi

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Whelp

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not HxH

>uses MAL
>thinks other people care about MAL ratings
get a load of this newfag. don't project your shit taste onto everyone else

>how does this factor into anything
The part where it's an asspull, disingenuous retard.
>OFA can combine and transfer quirks
makes sense
>OFA's stockpile boosts the power of the quirk with each user
makes sense
>Deku is the first living user who can use all the other quirks or even know of them, and they are still boosted versions from stockpile
asspull

whats with these newfags and calling THE arrow "The Requiem Arrow"? Leave that shit back at 9gag, Reddit or wherever you came from

>90% of the thread is BNHA
Way to make a bad thread even worse

Poor attempt at damage control

>The part where it's an asspull, disingenuous retard.
How does that make it an asspull?

>it only makes sense if I agree with it
Okay

>OfA didn't have the accumulation necessary for it to grow to a state in which it would be able to achieve it combine that with quirks becoming more and more complex with each new generation led it to this point of fruition
Makes sense. I guess your problem is that you don't like Deku

>damage control
>over speculation based on nothing

>>Same stand bs is genuine bs to me. I honestly could have accepted it if at least SP didnt suddenly develop a new ability whenever it just happened to be convenient multiple times in the manga. Or hell just show Dio using his stands take on the the suck or star finger ability or something to enforce the same type of stand idea but nope. Joots can just suddenly time stop now. Dont question it. Its fate or something.

SP having time stop makes sense in the original plan that Araki had. Originally the idea was supposed to be that The World could use the powers of every stand that exists, so that it could use time stop was actually because Star Platinum existed. This is why earlier we see Dio use purple hermit as well since this was the orignal plan... however Araki scrapped the idea because The World would be too busted

Why didn't it have the necessary accumulation? What is special in Deku? Why didn't the user that had 2 quirks stored unlocked this mode in his entire career but a kid that is 10 did? Or why didn't the user that had 3 quirks, or 4 quriks or 5 quirks or 6 quirks?

>Why didn't it have the necessary accumulation?
Because it was weak back then and didn't have time to grow. OfA works as a network of power and if the users don't cultivate it its not going to do anything.

>What is special in Deku?
Nothing? This would have happened to anyone who was the 9th user.

>Why didn't the user that had 2 quirks stored unlocked this mode in his entire career but a kid that is 10 did?
What the fuck are you talking about?

Because you sound smarter when you say that your favorite shonen has no asspulls.
Anyways I think it's all about consistency. If the series establishes itself to be silly and carefree about how it throws around its powers from the start then the asspull will be far easier to stomach than if the story started off more grounded and then suddenly pulled crazy shit out of nowhere.

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That asspull is getting canceled for not targeting merchandise centric audiences

Not an asspull. She's a demon.

>it's not an asspull, see they explain that the others didn't have enough "accumulation" in the chapter the asspull is introduced
>even though I just explained that OFA transfers quirks and get stronger with each user, this actually only applied to stockpile until it didn't anymore
There is no helping you retard.

It's a combination of an arbitrary number of genetic transfers with an arbitrary level of mastery over the power, creating an arbitrary change in functionality to help try to make the story not an objective bore.

Demons are allowed to have asspulls after asspulls. Just see Akaza.

Of course its an asspull

>see they explain that the others didn't have enough "accumulation" in the chapter the asspull is introduced
The bulk of the shit I've stated has been in the manga since the second chapter and even more so in chapter 59. This is how OfA always worked.

>even though I just explained that OFA transfers quirks and get stronger with each user, this actually only applied to stockpile until it didn't anymore
So you literally can't fucking read.

Except nothing has changed in functionality you fucking dipshit.

Why was it weak back then? All Might defeated an enemy that had the ability to take multiple quirks with nothing but OFA alone and still, it didn't have enough accumulation? What power did Deku contribute into OFA? He is weaker than All Might and is a 10 years old kid.
There were already 7 quirks. Lets assume the explanation given is good enough. It means for 7 quirks Deku needs enough of OFA's accumulation but this works also for 2 quirks. For 2 quirks you need different accumulation than for 7. You need less power. Why didn't any user got 2 quirks? Or after that, 3 quirks? or 4 quirks?

>Except nothing has changed in functionality
Objectively it did, otherwise it wouldn't have had to have gotten stronger to do something new
You may not like it, but your yourself described it as such

>Why was it weak back then?
Quirks were generally less complex back then they were now.

>All Might defeated an enemy that had the ability to take multiple quirks with nothing but OFA alone and still, it didn't have enough accumulation?
All Might literally had the accumulation of 6 users over the course of over 80 years when he got it. That's the reason why he was able to defeat AfO

>What power did Deku contribute into OFA?
OfA gets stronger with each new transfer

>There were already 7 quirks
6 dumbass.

>Objectively it did, otherwise it wouldn't have had to have gotten stronger to do something new
Objectively it didn't. OfA users to the accumulation of the users power this is the exact same concept as before. You may no lie it but you are objectively wrong.

>There were already 7 quirks. Lets assume the explanation given is good enough. It means for 7 quirks Deku needs enough of OFA's accumulation but this works also for 2 quirks. For 2 quirks you need different accumulation than for 7. You need less power. Why didn't any user got 2 quirks? Or after that, 3 quirks? or 4 quirks?
Do people just love making up shit when they know they have no stance against anything? Why does it even matter when we're still in the dark about a lot of this shit?

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good asspulls fag

Why were the less complex? What changed?
And yet, he unlocked 0 quirks. You are not answering me.
Where was it stated it gets stronger with each nee transfer?
It doesn't matter the number here. What is the explanation?
That doesn't explain anything? OFA got powerful enough for the SIX quirks, why didn't it happen for the numbers prior to that?

>Do people just love making up shit when they know they have no stance against anything?
That really does seem to be the case. I mean we know absolutely nothing about how this came about other than its ties to the concept of quirk singularity and quirks getting stronger with each new generation but why it de decided to happen now is something we're still in the dark about.

>Why were the less complex? What changed?
Read the manga

>You are not answering me.
I did.

>Where was it stated it gets stronger with each nee transfer?
Read the manga

>It doesn't matter the number here
Actually it does. If you're going to put forth an argument at the very least pretend you know what you're talking about.

>OfA is strong enough to do one thing. Now, it is strong enough to do new things!
Chaaaanged

>OFA got powerful enough for the SIX quirks,
.Page literally fucking says its because of the 8 users before Deku

Then
>OfA uses the accumulation of the power of the previous users to do things

Now
>OfA uses the accumulation of the power of the previous users to do things

WOWWWWWW

you say that as if you actually read

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Completely new things, fren

>new things
>except its not

Okay

>couldn't do it before
>can now
New!

Just turn your headlights off, bro

>Couldn't use the power of the previous users before

What?

>Power
>Quirks
New!

>Quirks aren't powers
Retard

>op clearly says "least amount"
>everyone proves everyone else wrong by posting one asspull

Could he use their quirks before this? You yourself said the OfA had to get stronger first, so it's a definitive no. It's wonderfully new

I'm not sure how you jumped that leap of logic but you're still wrong

You should probably answer the question

Nah because Deku has always been using the power of the previous users.

That's not the question. The question is, could he use their quirks at the start? Simple question. You're being very evasive

What question? Deku has always been able to use their powers. That's how OfA works

So he could always manifest, let's say, the black whips?

If he's able to use the powers of the previous users yes

And All Might, which had the same power, could also manifest the black whips?

The thread is stupid, anyway. The shonen with the least amount of asspulls is probably some shit in the U19 club that got cancelled before it could have a single asspull.

No. He needed to reach an arbitrary level of proficiency before getting Black Whip.

Maybe. He was using the powers of the previous users.

Nope. Try again retard,

How can you say its arbitrary when we don't even know who it works?

Subpar work

So the discussion on the core of the power needing to get stronger doesn't matter? All Might and presumably (in All Might's words) Nana simply were unlucky?

>So the discussion on the core of the power needing to get stronger doesn't matter?
It never mattered because we don't know anything yet. Nothing either of us said is correct but both Deku and All Might have been using the power of the previous users all along since that's how OfA works.

>all these faggots only now realising MHA is shit
Where were you faggots in these threads we've been having since years ago

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So we don't know anything, save that something that All Might knew nothing about, in spite of years of heavy use of the OfA and having some understanding of what Nana was aware of, occurring in Deku

...

>in spite of years of heavy use of the OfA
That's irrelevant given that he's been wrong about shit like not interacting with the ghosts as way back as Sports Festival and Deku's experience with OfA was already different from AM's. Mya you just love being proven wrong at every corner.

But he wasn't just wrong, he didn't have the same experience. Why was that?

>save that something that All Might knew nothing about, in spite of years of heavy use of the OfA and having some understanding of what Nana was aware of, occurring in Deku
This is pretty worthless to bring up since All Might has always been in the dark on some aspects of OfA. He only new as much as Nana did.

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Why is his experience different from All Mights
why is it only different now when deku has it
you're getting there buddy

>But he wasn't just wrong,
He was.

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And Deku was just as in the dark as All Might, until the power responded to him differently than All Might. That's not worthless to bring up at all.

>Why is his experience different from All Mights
Why shouldn't it be?
>why is it only different now when deku has it
Except All Might has said from the beginning that each user had a different experience.

Its cute that you think asking these questions is going to lead to something but you got to do better than this user.

He's not wrong. He didn't have that experience so he didn't know, which doesn't make him wrong. He couldn't interact with them and they couldn't interact with him. He's correct from his point of view.
He would be wrong if he said he could when he couldn't.
Come on buddy

I didn't say he wasn't wrong. Read carefully. I said, he wasn't JUST wrong. He made his guesses having personally gotten a lot less of an experience from the power he had for longer. Why is that?

>That's not worthless to bring up at all.
But you're saying that All Might should know everything about OfA because of his experience.

You
fucking
retard
That's the WHOLE point of OFA, you brainlet.
It's the ENTIRE REASON that AFOs brother couldnt beat AFO and neither could any of them until fucking all might.

>Why shouldn't it be
Why shouldn't you neck yourself? This is not a retort.
Why does each user having a different experience suddenly mean Deku gets everyone elses quirk but nobody else does?
Come on, you're nearly there

>He's not wrong
He is wrong. Hell Nana had the same dream as Deku before she died.

>He couldn't interact with them and they couldn't interact with him. He's correct from his point of view.
Except he literally fucking said that they shouldn't be able to do that not that he himself couldn't.

>I didn't say he wasn't wrong
>But he wasn't just wrong

No, and if you look closely, you'll see that I never said that. I'm saying All Might, after a ton of time using OfA, is unaware of many of the things going on in Deku despite being much newer with it. And I'm asking why

"He wasn't just wrong" means, "he's wrong, yes, but there's something more to extrapolate from that"
This should be obvious

>He made his guesses having personally gotten a lot less of an experience from the power he had for longer.
Huh?
>This is not a retort.
Actually it is. What sort of dumbass question is "why is Deku having a different experience than All Might" to begin with? They gain it i different ears under different circumstances.

>Why does each user having a different experience suddenly mean Deku gets everyone elses quirk but nobody else does?
Why does that matter at all?

He thinks they shouldn't be able to do that because he wasn't able to do that. As a wielder of OfA he has the authority to speak as someone with experience.
He is not wrong from his point of view because he did not have that knowledge.
It's like if someone who has no idea how a fingerprint scanner works tried to open a fingerprint locked door, and then says that the door can't be opened. He thinks that way because he literally cannot know any better. He is not wrong.

why do people think OPM is shonen?

>No, and if you look closely, you'll see that I never said that
You did
>I'm saying All Might, after a ton of time using OfA, is unaware of many of the things going on in Deku despite being much newer with it
How doe shaving a ton of time with OfA equate to having the same experiences?

So what if they gained it under different circumstances? Why does that change anything?
Would it have changed anything if they didn't get it under different circumstances? How do these different circumstances lead to the phenomenon of ghosts talking to you?
>why does that matter at all
Because we're in an asspull thread. We're talking about an asspull.

>You did
Show me where I did
>How doe shaving a ton of time with OfA equate to having the same experiences?
That's what I'm asking, what caused the difference?

>This should be obvious
No you're just stupid
>He thinks they shouldn't be able to do that because he wasn't able to do that.
This is just your headacanon. He outright says that it should be impossible.

>He is not wrong from his point of view because he did not have that knowledge.
He is wrong. And the fact that you believe he should be an OfA expert is retarded in itself.

Holy fuck how many times do I have to keep explaining this shit to you? Are you a fucking toddler?

If a colourblind person says the world is black and white are they wrong? There is no universal perception of the world

>So what if they gained it under different circumstances? Why does that change anything?
Because All Might gained OfA with 7 users in place while Deku got it with 8 users.

>Would it have changed anything if they didn't get it under different circumstances?
Yep

>How do these different circumstances lead to the phenomenon of ghosts talking to you?
But Nana got it though with 6 users.

>Because we're in an asspull thread. We're talking about an asspull.
Too bad its not an asspull then. You've outroght failed to prove it as such hence why you're asking stupid questions. Luckily I got time since I want to this stupid ass thread.

>Show me where I did
>That's what I'm asking, what caused the difference?

I'm asking you the question retard,

>No you're just stupid
You've never heard someone say "it wasn't just X" before? You can't figure out what that would mean? This is basic grammar.

>Holy fuck how many times do I have to keep explaining this shit to you? Are you a fucking toddler?
Why would a toddler be able to post here?

>If a colourblind person says the world is black and white are they wrong?
This analogy makes no sense.

Okay, so I obviously didn't say it, and we're asking the same question. Cool. Just curious, if we're asking the same question, are we both retarded?

I only now realise this is bait. I'm sorry dude

>You've never heard someone say "it wasn't just X" before? You can't figure out what that would mean?
Why would you deliberately make yourself look stupid?

>deku throughout life always helps people when he can, to the point of putting himself in danger
Listen you kike, most CHILDREN after being mocked and insulted for being shitty at something for years DON'T try and get to the top, it KILLS their motivation to become good at it.
Especially how life for him was all about how cool and stronk quirk users were and how trash and useless non quirk people were.

I dunno, I understood it

Why is it bait?

fpbp

>Okay, so I obviously didn't say it,
You did.

>if we're asking the same question, are we both retarded?
Nope just you

It has extra chapters in shounen magazines.

Yeah dude unlucky for you this is a manga which completely eschews realism 99% of the time when it wants to so you cannot fall back on that argument when it comes to the failings of the narrative

That's what I'm wondering too. 100% you had to understand it, but for some reason you're pretending like you didn't.

Because you wrote it

>That's what I'm wondering too.
You're wondering why you're retarded?

No, it's perfectly viable.
Don't be so needlessly myopic.

Then where did I say it? And why are you not retarded for not knowing either?

Perfectly viable if you have the critical thinking of a five year old japanese child maybe

This, it started going downhill around when that loli witch showed up and they all got magical powerups and shit. But the worst thing in the series is probably the fucking pirates.

Oh, you weren't talking in the hypothetical second person? I thought since there had been a conversation about grammar, you were elevating the discussion a little

>Then where did I say it?
>But he wasn't just wrong,
>And why are you not retarded for not knowing either?
How can I be retarded for not knowing something that hasn't been revealed in the manga?

Wow...you really are retarded

>Hey I want my fantasy story so realistic that there are no fantasy powers, but I want the fantasy story and want a good story that is perfectly realistic, but yet has essentially magic powers.
You just don't understand psychology worth a shit.

That doesn't say that All Might should know like you're claiming. It's a supposition of why he was wrong.
>How can I be retarded for not knowing something that hasn't been revealed in the manga?
Then I'm not retarded either. It's just a lot about this whole thing has just been left very vague.

for now

Infinite rotation was not an asspull retard.

JoJo Part 5.

>ok he pulled it out of his ass but maybe they'll explain it later
Sounds about right bnhatard

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Was "hypothetical second person" confusing like the word "just?"

>That doesn't say that All Might should know like you're claiming
But that's literally what you're claiming

>Then I'm not retarded either.
No you very much are

Reminder that horn doesn’t give a shit about the story or characters.
He forgot twice copied toga already and is currently watching movies on repeat instead of writing Mha.

>But that's literally what you're claiming
It most definitely isn't. You can tell, because the words aren't there
>No you very much are
I mean, I'm fine with you believing that. You seem to just be making assumptions all over the place, so I won't take your suppositions to heart much.

>horn
Sasuga shitposter-kun

>It most definitely isn't. You can tell, because the words aren't there
It very much is. You can tel because that;s what you were going for

>You seem to just be making assumptions all over the place,
Nope just what I see in front of me

Get with the times boomer, a typo obviously.

Do you see things that aren't there often?

Do you forget what you type often?

Nope. In fact, that's why I knew you couldn't produce your claim

I see you did it again.

You should get some help, seeing things isn't good

You two make a cute couple

I suggest you see a doctor for your schizophrenia

No he's just retarded

Thanks, it's our anniversary. We do this every year

Hate-filled handholding is the best handholding there is

To sum up the thread
MHA has wishing asspull
7 quirks is both an asspull and not an asspull since it was foreshadowed but it’s only a power for deku which makes it an asspull gary stue x machina.

>MHA has wishing asspull
Nope
The second point is retarded all the same

So when are these anons gong to fuck?

Imminently

This better not be a bait.
I shut off my gachimix for this