>Excuse me sir. May I ask what you are doing with that cart?
Seriously why didn't they have a fucking guard? Paying one 5 times the regular wage would have been far far cheaper than any of the damage done. Why? Why did one of the worst mass murders in Japan have to be related to my main source of entertainment?
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They usually have a guard but there were visitors that day and for some reason the attacker knew.
>studio exists for several decades
>never even a single incident that would require a guard
Yeah, why didn't they pay a guard to sit around and do nothing at all?
By the time the arsonist attacked he would be so used to sleeping on the job that he wouldn't even notice the guy coming in.
BUT THEY DID HAVE A GUARD, he was just told not to come in that day.
I agree, that's why I leave my door wide open when I go out. Why even bother locking it when no one ever tried to rob me in 20 years haha
Is this true? I read that these were only rumors
How much do you pay for your lock per month?
Also
>Why even bother locking it
>locking
99.9% of the locks on the market are just a friendly reminder "please don't trespass". Anyone can learn to open them within seconds with just a weekend of training.
What stops people from breaking into your home is not your lock.
>using a lock is the same as paying someone every day
Bet you don't employ a guard, too, so jokes on you retard.
Think of it as insurance that prevents bad shit from happening instead of covering the costs of the bad shit.
All anime companies should have mandatory security guards after this event.
But your country is shit, Japan crime rate is so low no one cares about security, the only crimes commited are done by insane people
>bank exists for a decade
>never a single bank robbery
Guess its time to fire the guards
What are some anime with guards?
I have no idea where you live. But since I live in a civilized country without gun fights every week, I barely EVER get to see guards ever. Because it's just not worth it.
The only "guards" I routinely see are the guys standing around in supermarkets to discourage shoplifters.
The math is pretty obvious on this. Most houses do not get burned down by arsonists around here.
>Why did one of the worst mass murders in Japan have to be related to my main source of entertainment?
Because you can't find yourself a better hobby. No one to blame but yourself.
>bank
They have time locks on the vaults and other automatic protections. They also have a direct connection to the police.
They do not have guards.
Not only security guards, but sprinklers and at least 5 fire extinguishers per person under each desk.
Fire hazards like paper need to be put away in fire proof containers when not in use, and backup needs to be stored in separate locations so things won't get lost.
Fire proof vests and regular fire drills in preparation for another copycat.
But I love Miyazaki. Ghibli is literally the only other studio besides Kyoani that would hurt if they burnt down.
None of that would have helped KyoAni though.
Retard
Yeah. People fail to realize just how bad the fire was. Its would have been like trying to make your building 9/11 proof
If I remember right they only mention turning of the "card security system". Meaning they have no actual human guard standing around. A big mistake.
I would imagine random otaku would try to steal shit from the studio
Putting a flak tower on the roof might have worked with at.
Its Japan you fucking moron
They had no reason for a guard up up to this point - this incident itself was the worst mass murder in Japan since WWII
>A big mistake.
Only in hindsight. It was a very sensible choice to not have a guard.
Paul Blart: Mall Cop The Animation
He would have just told the guard that he's refilling the generator in his worker disguise - its what he told staff to get further in the building in the first place
Maybe Japan needs to install a real Sibil System.
Events like these make me wish they did
I am really curious where these people demanding guards are from.
People who wish Kyoani didnt burn down
Reread the post you are replying to.
I am a licensed unarmed security guard. I guarded one of the most important election centers in the state of Florida, and the most work I did on the job was finishing all of FMA in four shifts straight. We are there only for insurance purposes or to act as a living scarecrow. If he wanted to burn down the building at any cost, a guard would not have stopped him.
Maybe Abe should have actual police officers guard all anime companies from here on? Since they seem to have their hands free enough to direct traffic and so on. That should deter at least some otaku killers.
>abe helping anime
>Florida
>Unarmed
Why?
>hindsight is perfect
You just blew my mind.
the better question is the atrocious anti fire measurements in the building which is like 5 years old. I hope that the jap government will jail the studio's CEO and the owners which led people to work in such conditions.
As people have said not much can stop an arsonist fire. 9/11 proofing buildings and such. That's like making churches bomb proof
In most civilised countries there are no guards in banks you dumb fucking NEET
They put lightning spires on churches, user.
Because people don't want to pay strangers to play judge/jury/executioner. It's a bigger liability
Liability. If a guard shoots someone, that opens up a can of worms. If someone shoots the living scarecrow, a criminal gets arrested and that's that.
Possible liability they'd incur from a private guard shooting someone wrongfully far outweighs the likely damage (a meth head stealing shit)
Even most armed private security have the gun only for their own protection and as an absolute last resort, they're not cops who can order someone to stop
I’d like this fat otaku scum do this in amerca and see what fucking happens.
Fireproofing a building does not mean it's impossible for any kind of fire to break out. If you want to deliberately set it on fire, you will succeed no matter what.
>another off-topic thread about this shit
What are you even trying to say?
All of our animation studios are in Canada or Korea though
What are you talking about? Most of the people died from smoke, while trying to flee on the blocked roof. if there would be an another escape route like A SECOND fucking door. The most of the casualties would be avoided. It was a hazardous working place, any fire there would caused as much deaths as that arsonist.
There should be a 1.5m thick layer of contained water in between each floor that explodes from above when there's a fire. So it would just cancel out any explosion with its own explosion.
The roof was not blocked.
The problem was that the fumes gave them 1 or 2 minutes to realize what was going on and get out of the building before falling unconscious.
Gasoline does not create a standard house fire.
>any fire there would caused as much deaths as that arsonist.
No.
I wish the mass murderer blew up someone who deserves it like the deep state, not some artists in an animation studio.
>like the deep state
If the deep state were out in the open and visible to people, it wouldn't be much of a deep state.
What did he mean by this?
I wonder if that company had a boost in stocks on the market as well.
>implying KyoAni wasn't the deep state's secret propaganda machine
It wouldn't be anything, it would be ashes.
>the deep state propaganda machine made K-on and Hyouka
It all makes sense.
Just because you can't see them doesn't mean there aren't any. Try taking off your pants in a bank lobby and see how quickly you get thrown out.
Japan isn't a third world country like the US.
Sauce?
You also underestimate how much inertia an jet airliner has.
They didn't have a guard, they had a keycard door that was disabled for the day.
If this guy was the guard this would have never happen.
I don't know what's worse, you posting crossboarder memes, or that your source labeled it as a meme at the bottom of the image.
>Florida
>needing firearms to fight people
Gators actually taste pretty decent
Or just a foam sprayer instead of a sprinkler system.
Japs are naive. They don’t live in a constant fear of mass shootings, riots, or terror attacks. They don’t assume the worst.
He was there to remind them
The firefighters said that they couldn't open the door because it was locked and 12 bodies were in front of it.
The only connection between floors was that spiral stairs in which smoke gathered since it was the only escape route for it, effectively cutting the people from 2nd and 3d floor from reaching safety.
this is a lie. there were 2 staircases. the spiral went from 1 to 3, and the other staircase (enclosed) went from 1-roof.
also the roof was not locked, they just suffocated before they got up there because SM O K E R I S E S
Maybe that I was so lazy to pick the first picture of this meme on google.
How long will it take before you people stop spouting the same bullshit in every thread?
They didn't even have 2nd floor/3rd floor fire escapes so STFU many things could have happened by then that was not arson related.
Why do you lie?
No, the firefighters said that the door to the roof was unlocked, but a visiting gaijin anime expert was too fat and got wedged in the stairwell.
Japan is a high trust society. This incident is LITERALLY the worst thing that has happened in Japan since 1945.
(worst man made thing, there have been pretty bad natural disasters)
There has also been a worse incident that may have been caused by a man.
This is "merely" the worst incident that is confirmed to have been caused by a man.
>Burgers trying to compare their third world country to japan
Also in hindsight it's really fucking easy to be a smartass, if they had known that some madlad would blow their studio up they obviously would have done something as well.
The reason people keep saying that KyoAni did something wrong because the alternative is scary.
Once you accept that there was little that they could reasonably have done to avoid this disaster, you also have to accept that you (or anyone else) might fall victim to a similar attack.
But this fear does not make your repeated bullshit any more true. Reality is shit.
And that's why I watch anime in the first place.
They should have hired a guard for the day if the door was going to be turned off. All NHK would have had to do is show their news passes and he could have let them in.
are people rly afraid of this? random happenings are what make life exciting.
>sauce?
>repeats statement again w/o evidence
Kek
>believing this shit
t. literal retarded weeb
>We did have a guard, but we had people coming over, so we told him not to come
That's even stupider. Why would you not want a guard when guests are there? Shouldn't having guests be the exact time you'd want a guard?
The guests will the defend the building for them.
Replace gasoline with automatic rifles.
Of course not. People keep reading "security" and assuming it means some kind of integrated system with a human guard.
They apparently put a keycard lock on the door to keep thieves out. That's all the security most offices of that size would have. And in broad daylight there's no reason not to disable it as needed.
Because in normal countries most bussinesses don't have guards. It was an anime studio, not a fucking bank or night club.
>tries to walk inside a building with a rifle
>gets shot
USA > Japan
FMP...
aw damn
Unironically ban fuel and problem solved. Japan doesn't need cars anyway when they have all those trains.
Elon Musk could have saved Kyoani
Now it is.
tfw carbon tax could have avoided kyoani burning to death
>night clubs can afford security guards but the most well known anime studio can't
What an unfair world we live in.
Why do you compare your third world country to Japan?
I work in a hospital and I barely see any security guards here. Any idiot could enter and kill a bunch of patients if he wanted.
You get thrown out by the employees and not a security guard.
You seem to forget, that in Japan, people normally carry katana as part of formal attire, especially as a guest.
Kill yourself weeb
Why didn't the eagles just fly the gasoline away?
>It's Japan! they don't need security! Their crime rate is 0,1%!
Deluded Otakus should die
Big Japanese cities != Japan
>put your wallet in America somewhere and it's gone
>put your wallet in Japan somewhere and it's there when you come back
>"Japan needs burger security"
I can confirm that it was at least mentioned in one Japanese news (TV though). But doesn't need to mean anything.
So someone is going to dress up like this at comic con?
Oil won't disappear without big casualties. All dictatorships are run in countries with a lot of oil and they will start sponsoring terrorism if world bans oil. Watch Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and now Venezuela
Do you have any proof? I always read people here saying that Japan is actually a crime ridden shithole and its only the cops making shit up and covering everything up but I never see any fucking proof.
Only fucking Americans need a damn security guard for everything
woah that must be why the US has crime rates similar to some third world countries
How fucking absolutely fucking holy fucking fuckshitfuck AHHHH!!!\
How stupid can you be YOU STUPID FUCK!
Do you actually believe what a bunch of fucking schizophrenic shut in fucking mouthbreathing morons on an ANONYMOUS FORUM are more reputable than LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE!? Fuck you people are stupid.
nah
I'll dress up as the burning Kyo-Ani building and make screaming noises while red LED lights are flashing inside the windows of my costume
>comparing your average joe's security with a company's security
Brainlet.
I live in Japan, it's obnoxiously safe. Literally any time you ever hear about anything happened at all, it's in a city.
It's a question of need, not money.
You expect trouble at a night club, not at an anime studio.
>trouble at a night club, not at an anime studio.
Yeah because otaku are totally safe and sane people.
Don't be retarded. It's not like they're burning down studios every week.
This.
>Happens once
>Holy shit they should have been prepared
Because guards are only there to combat arsonists.
How about the high number of molestation crime that happened all the fucking time and yet few would be willing to report? Or the fact that yakuza and psychos with connection could pretty much murder people and few would dare to touch them? (See concrete girl)
Educate yourself first weeb.
>Happens once
Doesn't Japan have a cultist problem? No excuse to have low security.
No one said that japan is a a crime ridden hole you tard, only calling out to your retarded weebshit claim that crime in japan is so low.
People do in safe neighborhoods
>How about [thing with no evidence of having happened but I believe happens a lot because of doujin] and [that single thing that happened but was a huge deal]?
en.wikipedia.org
>thing with no evidence of having happened but I believe happens a lot because of doujin
>japantimes.co.jp
A quick google search would gives you tons of news you retarded weeb.
>that single thing that happened but was a huge deal
Oh yah, so much that all the prepetator got what they deserve. No wait, they fucking did not and got away relatively harmless. If that shit didn't show you the broken justice system of japan, then you are truly delusional.
So do we have any actual news yet about motive and who died?
Samu Haidu just wanted to remind Japan of the cruelties of man
What else are they supposed to combat? The studios have been fine for decades without guards. This isn't America where people get shot every second night.
>A quick google search would gives you tons of news you retarded weeb.
So does "man has sex with alligator"
>Doesn't Japan have a cultist problem?
What?
>No excuse to have low security.
Again, what?
>almost no violent crime
Sounds very secure to me.
You may feel like you need 3 guns on your person at all times in order to feel secure in the USA, but in Japan, they had this weird idea it would be easier for everybody if people just didn't shoot you for no good reason.
Nobody is paid enough to touch a sweaty, disgusting user getting naked. I for one would not go even near him, just spray with a firehose or something.
>firehose
They could have used a couple of those in the building. One for each floor.
Can't even quote my post? Fucking pussy, and stellar debating logic you have there retard.
because in general japan is a very safe country and they do not need guards
What were the motives of that piece of shit anyway?
All I heard is that he is a train autist.
I really hope the guy suffers before his execution, but unfortunately it won't bring back the deceased.
It really disgusts me to the bone that someone would do this.
>All I heard is that he is a train autist.
That's just a meme. He was mentally ill and thought KyoAni stole his novel. Apparently he spent his time playing the same game all day and got irrationally angry when the neighbors tried to complain. He was put on a comma because he got fucked up by the flames and there hasn't been no news about him.
Why did they put him in a coma?
I get restraining him, but he deserves every bit of pain he can feel.
This is even more pointless than the train autist story, this just makes me angrier.
So many people died because the mentally ill are alowed their freedom.
What user should've said is that he fell into a coma.
A shame.
He needs to suffer for what he has done.
haven't been to Yea Forums in a while,
but I just want to say this somewhere to get it off my chest
KyoAni pretty much never let me down, watching Clannad as an intro to anime was amazing, and then to follow up with Haruhi was mind boggling! finally, on to K-ON, Hyouka, and Nichijou as peak anime, some of my favorites of all time.
later I would eventually watch the rest of their shows (except Free), they always hit the spot, and were usually better than I expected.
Kyoto Animation never disappointed, obviously they couldn't all be classics, but they were all great in their own way. I almost never save anime for potential re-watch, but half of the anime that I have saved is KyoAni how could anyone want to do this?
so sad right now, just watching OPs EDs and AMVs of Kyoani shows
Not him.
The voices in his head told him they'd wronged him and needed to suffer and he was able to follow them because for some reason he wasn't permanently locked in a psych ward when he robbed a store at knifepoint 3 years earlier
Pretty sure he's in a medically induced coma, he was awake when caught.
You put people in a come because the pain is so bad that they thrash around and fuck themselves even harder while doing so. If you are trying to keep someone alive, it's in your best interest that they don't do move too much.
>thought KyoAni stole his novel.
that's not what happened idiot
>Kyoto Animation never disappointed
He has to stand trial. He can't do that if he dies.
then what the fuck do you know what happened?
witnesses even say that he shouted out kyoani plagiarized him
But he doesn't need to be alive.
He needs to die slowly.
But restraining the fucker so he can't move at all would be better, full on pain and no way to get out.
It's what he deserves.
Is this a thread discussion about the incident or shitpost thread?
1st world countries have justice systems for a reason. He can't pay for his crimes if he dies.
He needs to be alive for the police to question him and he needs to be alive for the trial. Do you think the families of the people who died would get closure if he simply died in the hospital without facing the consequences?
Restraining him wouldn't kill him, and it'd prolong his suffering.
I hope he's so burnt even spitting in his molten face hurts.
Just checking
I doubt they get closure from that filth unless they get to rip him apart themselves desu.
Don't worry, the flesh on his left leg was ashen and sloughing off in one of the pictures taken after he was caught.
He'll wake up to an amputated leg at the least.
A good key card system would have been better than a guard and cheaper too.
How often does it have to be repeated, they have a keycard system. It was turned off on request of NHK who came to visit that day.
Do you have the pictures?
If only they hadn't switched it off for the day to let the NHK team to come and go as they pleased.
but THERE WAS A KEY CARD SYSTEM
The point is that all was shut down because a NHK crew were going there to do an interview, so they shut it down so the crew team would in & out easily from the building, and that's why Takemoto and others important staff members of KyoAni were there.
As someone said yesterday, luck (bad luck) is one of the most important elements of these kind of mass murders, and everything wrong happend. Nobody checked the guy buying 40L of gas, no one stopped him, the gasoline spreaded in seconds, the staircase working as a smoke chimney, no fire safe staircases, people getting suffocated to death in 3 minutes, couldn't get to the roof door because people collapsed before the door and wasn't able to enter.
EVERYTHING WENT SO FUCKING WRONG MORE THAT YOU CAN'T IMAGINE.
Well that was a bad idea. Should have just gifted the visiting members temporary guest cards or escorted them around. Turning off the key card system is unheard of at places with sensitive information.
maybe the dude knew about the interview?
Good.
>Turning off the key card system is unheard of at places with sensitive information.
But it's an animation studio. I don't think industrial espionage is high on their list of worries honestly, and I mean they're not Pixar.
Its a combination of bad luck (timing of the attack), bad decisions (turning off of the system), bad design (building design/ no other security measures). Looks like Japan isn't the modern enlightened bastion it's made out to be.
Hearing his reasoning from his mouth is pretty important for closure.
NHK TALKING ABOUT KYOANI
MORE TO COME
It's a small animation studio. What's the worst that somebody could do with their information? Spoiler the ending of VEG?
>So many people died because the mentally ill don't have access to decent health care
FTFY
True it may not be on the same level as Pixar or Disney but I still doubt they are gonna want unfinished work to be leaked.
Chinese fan
I don't think it's fair to take shots at Japan as a country here given that, overall, incidents like these are far less common than they are in America (which I assume is your benchmark nation).
Hatta statement
>turning off of the system
I think this is probably the biggest fuck up of all and easiest thing that could have prevented the attack. Unless the door was utter shit it wouldn't have opened even with the fat cunt smashing his weight against it, allowing enough time for someone to call the police and let them arrive.
Was it so fucking hard for them to wring the doorbell/knock and get someone to let them in? I suppose you just get complacent.
A data leak would usually not happen because someone gains access to the building during daylight office hours though. That would either happen because their servers get hacked, a rogue employee or the same happening at one of their partners.
They never anticipated a straight up attack, and that's not what the keycards were for I guess. I find it a bit unreasonable to post facto nitpick the security.
now they were interviewing the father of the 41 female animator Yukie Tsuda. Sad stuff.
Leak unfinished work, spoil projects which haven't been announced yet, leak material which might not be used. I don't work at a animation studio but there's a few things off the top of my head.
If only they had guns, they could have killed the smoke before it got them.
M-masaka
>All
>wring
Ignore that spelling, you know what I meant.
Old animator talking about Kyoto Animation quality (Showing FREE!, sadly)
>turning off the keycard system
Did their system not allow the creation of guest passes? As in, the kind you give to guests once they've been properly ID'd and signed in, and will grant them access to areas specified on the access system?
I get that this is all hindsighting to the max, and that I'm thinking from the point of view of a non-Japan nation, but disabling the security system for the convenience of visitors seems like it's just asking for trouble. Or at least a very serious telling-off from the company's security team. At least, it would be the case at my workplace - which isn't to say the two are directly comparable at all.
decent care aka put in an asylum were they belong
>this image
damm poetry, ;_;
Maybe it is a little unfair but I wasn't comparing it to America but the country I'm from where incidents like these are also really rare but our security systems are a lot more secure seemingly.
Fat fucker's gonna wake up to find himself a little lighter.
I would say Free is a good example of that quality. Water animation especially, best its ever been in a tv show.
>why doesnt everything go perfect like in my mind
Put in an asylum where they belong aka nobody gets the treatment and people just hide their mental illnesses until they do shit like burning an animation studio.
Even the host is crying
Now they're talking about the fans, foreign fans too.
Hey look at that, pen is better than a gun when fighting fires.
user, are you retarded? If they're in an asylum how are they going to burn down a studio? Also, fuck them, they don't deserve treatment.
True that is the main cause of data leaks but as we all know some the easiest sources of data leaks are in social engineering. A random official looking person with a usb with malware can be a viable tactic.
Why is your screenshot so blurry?
And last and finally, someone doing the big fucking question.
I think what user means is that if they know they'll only end up in an asylum they won't seek help in the first place so no-one knows they're a problem until after they've attacked. Although this faggot had already attacked previously (robbing a store), so him being free to do this was another example of how fucked Japan's support system is.
Either shit tier rip or the shit tier screenshot software I was using at the time to take it. It's an old shot.
>why did they set him off by stealing his work
Asahi was showing the recording of the arson carrying the buckets, but the stream froze goddamit, the webm was posted in other threads before, mainichi source
>twitter.com
He was al right.
That's why Hatta looked like he wanted to kill himself. I meant, he definitely realized how stupid the thing he did just for pleasing NHK.
They turned off their already minimum security system was the problem. It's really baffling. As far as I know, it shouldn't be the norm to not give out guest passes first or at least checking outsider of their identification tags (that they should have if they're really from NHK crews). But some anons from yesterday said it was actually normal, including those claiming to work in big companies.
Japan (island) is one big asylum.
You see people like Aoba walking down the street everywhere everyday.
>they don't deserve treatment.
Nobody "deserves" anything. Justice is a fictional concept that doesn't apply to reality. It's just a matter of what's beneficial and what isn't, and treating mental health issues is beneficial for society.
I second this.
Too bad its just one leg and not all of his limbs.
Imagine rolling him around in a wheelchair while everyone spits on him and throws garbage at him.
He'd be allowed to live like that.
As is killing the dangerous ones, lest they stop taking their treatment because you simply don't have the resources to chase every single one up over the course of their entire lives.
Just killing the mentally ill off is even better.
No need to waste resources on useless twats.
Some of the fire victims had all limbs amputated because of the fire according to sources. They should do the same to him.
Pretty much everyone can be diagnosed with a mental illness.
People can argue "what ifs" forever. But nothing will bring those people back.
why didn't they just ride the eagles to mordor
This is really sad. For some reason, it brings back the memories I had long forgotten, the time when Lucky star was airing. My friends and I would excitedly watch it together, laughing and having fun together, including shocked and rather angry from that spoiler from Konata's dad. There were also Haruhi, K-On, and other numerous likeable shows they did and I'm really glad they made them.
Why it had to be like this?
People who live in safe countries become naturally castrated, like the Kakapo, meekly standing by as their eggs are eaten by rats, unable to even conceive of the utility of violence.
A proper crime rate is essential to function as a human.
Most banks have guards, but they're typically posted in places you won't see them.
t. security wagie
"That's funny, the company always calls ahead. Well no big deal, just show me your employee ID."
t. brazilian
People are just angry, especially when it's true that with better decisions that looked rather obvious like not disabling the security system in hindsight, even if the incident still going to happen the loss wouldn't be so much.
>But some anons from yesterday said it was actually normal, including those claiming to work in big companies.
Sounds like a social engineer's paradise if true, damn.
Brazil's is probably a little bit too high. When the average person comes into contract with crime every single day, stress begins to accumulate and problems only worsen. But the opposite is also a problem. Never encountering violence in your life means you never learn to properly respond to it. You lose your natural and healthy sense of caution, and begin to believe that other humans are worthy of trust, when they are definitely not.
If Japan had the same fire safety standards as the west the workes on the 2nd and 3rd floor would hava had much more time to get out safely.
youtube.com
A normal fire door will last 30 minutes before the flames go trough that would have left them with enough time to escape with a fire escape stairs.
I can't remember the last time 70 people got killed or severely burned in a commercial building
So now kyoani will turn on the darker side of moe anime? Will kyoani make gurro anime? or surprise surprise, bam, urobuchi/anno anime
Definitely, kyoani will now be the prime studio to animate muvluv alternative. They have first hand experience on the despair.
You sure that fire doors can deal with the blast from gasoline explosion and the leakages between building materials created by the shock?
And then they will rename their name into disaster animation, how do we spell disaster in kanji?
I, as a proud American, would have backflipped to avoid the gasoline and then shot him before he could light the fire.
I was speaking more generally of violent crime and mass murder.
They will embrace the fujo. Their Free! movie is already done and ready to be released. That and Evergarden is all the material they have left. Free! will receive an incredible amount of sympathy views. The shareholders will want them to embrace this instead of taking more risks while they recover + the superstitious amongst them will 100% believe the Free! movie was saved by some divine intervention. Expect a lot of Free! and similar (yaoi, shounen ai, and fujo) stuff to be released in the future. This event might actually trigger a cultural revolution in anime.
Basically, the future of KyoAni is going to be bittersweet dark drama and lighter lgbt stuff.
Their firefighters are actually quite good, and their fire standard is often more than enough to handle normal fire. Unfortunately, it's not a normal fire, and even the victims' sound decision to go upstairs backfired. The smoke from the explosion actually filled the entire building in less than a minute, probably faster than the time the victims needed to accept what horrible incident happened to them. I don't doubt a good fire door or two could hold some of the high temp smoke back, but it's probably not for so long really.
>Select all images with a fire hydrant.
Really google?
This is worse than the fire itself. But, at least, it's not yuri.
Someone fucking tell if if Shouko is okay.
You know that's a good question
Gasoline dosent "explode" like a bomb. Also firedoors always opens to the way out so the epxlosinen would need to tear the whole door and frame out of the wall.
>a guard would not have stopped him.
A guard who's watching some shitty anime instead of doing his job wouldn't have stopped him.
luckily i live somewhere that even if i never locked my door or windows i wont get broken into because the people that surround me arent disgusting
Example video youtube.com
Why dont you hire a security guard for your home?
>click hydrant
>dissapears into oblivion
>all pictures constantly dissapear and get instantly replaced
I dont understand why this happens
Gasoline vapors kind of do.
.. Does your.. workplace have a guard?
I mean a receptionist maybe, but I an actual security guard in most workplaces? Is that an American thing in the event a school shooter gets lost?
Flipfag here
Every single store here outside of a mall has a guard. In a row of stores in a sidewalk there are more armed guards than there are cashiers
>The smoke from the explosion actually filled the entire building in less than a minute,
Spiral staircase and regular stairs both allowed the smoke to move up unrestricted. In Canada, US, and most of Europe commercial buildings must have staircases behind firedoors to prevent this exact scenario from happening. Next time you're in an office building, make note of where the stairs are.
From that size of Jerrycan, if I'm not wrong it's around 20l? Kyoani got twice of that inside the building though.
Are you knew to using captcha? You're supposed to click on the fire hydrants until the stop appearing and then click verify.
Actually I don't understand how the arsonist managed to burn down the whole building? Were there no automatic fire extinguisher? And even 2 minutes before reacting knowing that they would have fire alarms seems too long...
They keep appearing back. Best way to do it is close the captcha and hope you roll a better one
The gasoline caught on fire and turned the entire bottom floor into flame within 5 seconds, and filled the upper levels with smoke within 30.
If you learned to read the news, you'd know that nhk asked them to unlock the doors cause they wanted to film.
The true death sentence was the spiral staircase which allowed the dark, heavy smoke to funnel upwards within 30s, instantly, covering the second floor in dark soot, blinding and choking anyone caught, and disabling one of two escape routes. If they hadn't had that spiral staircase then everyone would have at least several minutes of time and clear visibility more. The death toll would most likely have been considerably lower.
>These are the new plans to renew the building interior, Mr Hatta
>Ok, but let's put a circular staircase there
>But... We already have stairs, and a elevator
>JUST.... DO IT.
Indofag here, my cousin's workplace only had a dozen or so people working at a time and they still had at least one guard in one shift, sometimes two even. It's not even counting one OB that usually hang around with the guard in front of the door. It's not even a bank or some government shit, just a small business too.
Wait, he brought a fucking CART and didn't hide cans at all? And nobody reacted?
From the pictures the windows were not blown out out but burnt. If the gas had filled the whole room before ignigting the force would have been more powerful, but he ignited the gas quckly.
>Nobody checked the guy buying 40L of gas, no one stopped him,
You want every guy who refuels his cars to be stopped?
They had clearly scheduled some illegal corporate talks which is why the security system was disabled during the meeting, leaving no tangible proof of anyone leaving or entering the building. The staff was probably used to not asking questions and just close their eyes to whatever transpired during shady meetings like this.
If they don't have a spiral staircase, the survivors on the first floor probably going to more likely die than survive. Those on higher floors might reach the rooftop though.
This scenario probably just going to exchange the victims and survivors.
Have you ever made a smoke ham and bacon?
Now imagine that the first floor is the fire with the ham and bacon on the second and third floor with the whole building as a lid over the grill. They didn't stand a chance against 40L of gasoline
First world countries don't have guards everywhere, duh.
I hope you have some "excitement" in your life soon, user.
comic con has ended but otakon(DC,USA) is around the corner you can show up from there.
see The layout of the building and who died by which floor is right there
I don´t think it was bad luck, but the arsonists planning exactly when he could attack, where he would pour gasoline and how much he would need. He only burned himself because he decided on the spot to set on fire anyone he saw trying to escape. Bad luck would only come into play when people tryed and failed to acess the roof, assuming he didn´t went there to block it beforehand, all the rest were just vulnerabilities being exploited.
The spiral staircase immediately caught fire and funneled smoke upwards. No one on the first or second floor escaped by it. It literally only made things worse.
He put 40l of gas in 2 cans, you retard. In some places you can't buy more than 5l that way.
Also don't forget we have testimony of survivors saying the escape door on the roof was hard to open because they weren't used to the mechanism. Basically, no one in that building had gone through a fire drill. Obviously because they didn't even know how to open the emergency door.
Are you suggesting the arsonist knew there would be a interview meeting and there won't be security that day?
Yup the arsonist was caught on camera at the other 2studio locations
He basically staked out all 3 places for 2days and attacked them when the security was lax. They could only lessen the casualties with better security, he had 5knives and a hammer, it was either fire or knife. I guess getting stab is a better way to go eh?
Exactly. If they only have a single normal staircase (Which is stupid for an office) and not the fancy spiral one nearby the explosion, wouldn't the smoke go upwards slower but will remain longer on the first floor? The sole staircase would also get thicker smoke that way, so it's cursed either way.
>Select all images with stair
This is getting spooky.
news.livedoor.com
According to this survivor interview they did regular fire drills
>KyoAni has been receiving instructions and periodic fire trainings from the fire department, but "this time, it's something on a whole new level, a slightest mistake could cost my life, everything still feel so surreal" said the man.
>Are you suggesting the arsonist knew there would be a interview meeting and there won't be security that day?
Very possibly?
Because this is not something that normally happens in Japan, unlike your ape filled country.
Then he would have some intern source or from KyoAni, the people from other companies reuinted there that day for the unknown project or from the NHK, nobody knew besides them of that meeting.
I don't know, they found a hammer on the guy so I think he intended to smash the glass door to get in but found it unlocked instead
nice try, antikyoani-kun
He wouldn´t have to know that. All he had to do in the past months was to see if he could get past the security system ->one day he does, because there was a meeting or something -> takes a look around the building -> buys fuel and waits until the next time the security system is disabled, which he will know because then there will be people entering without key cards. Doesn´t take a lot of patience, for someone obsessed...
If the single starcaise had a fire door then the fire would not have gone up and very little smoke would have. But to escape they would have needed an outside fire escape.
In Japan police only stops suspicious people for questioning AT NIGHT, while letting everybody do their own thing under broad daylight.
He should have went everyday from Saitama where he lived (Not a problem because he was a NEET fatfuck). They also found his computer smashed in his room
>BUT THEY DID HAVE A GUARD, he was just told not to come in that day.
You're alright securityguard-kun. Don't come to Kyoani today.
That's why insanity wouldn't pass considering just from the evidences he was clearly prepared to not just take one but all their buildings. He will get his hanging sentence, soon after he woke up.
injured stuff interview
Hopefully they can recover the data somehow.
He used to be a staff. Now he is a stuff.
Well that's good at least, he made sure not to involve any innocent outsiders
When i was in Japan, I regularly saw security "guards" that were at least 60 years old, clearly men that were either bored or can't retire.
The majority of them can't protect shit to begin with from someone who's determined to damage something to point of burning them self as well.
unless he got his source from 2ch/5ch about it or word from the street and since he smashed his computer believing he planned this from the get go.
lots of office buildings don't have dedicated guards...
>52 years old
Holy fuck it's Ishihara
>there were animators and directors on the third floor
>directors
>plural
uh-oh
>fire drills and other training were conducted regularly at the Kyoto Ani under the guidance of the fire department. However, the men recalled, "This time the dimension of training etc. was far beyond the point. I was dead if I made a mistake one step. I still do not feel comfortable to live".
beep beep
Another dude on suicide watch
I wonder how long they need to actually get past the fear
not many niggers
>>Excuse me sir. May I ask what you are doing with that cart?
Oh me?I am just going to burn down the Kyoanus, studio responsible for death of GAR anime.
>Ah, carry on then! Ganbatte you shining diamond-desu!
>Animators (Animator directors, character designers...) and directors on the 3rd floor
>I heard a voice that someone was arguing with, and a man's angry voice "Wow". After that, I heard that the woman's scream was heard, and immediately after that, the explosion sound resounded gradually while becoming loud and loud like the engine sound of a large bike.
>In less than 10 seconds, a black cloud of smoke coming out of the staircase up to the second floor
>
A young male employee rushed up from the ground floor using another staircase and shouted "It's a fire!" A female employee near the stairs pushes a bell
It is not unusual for people to completely forget these survivors in a couple of months, and discover their corpses in a year in their own apartments.
>Kyo Ani "I jumped from the second floor" approaching black smoke, the death of death male employee testimony
>the death of death male employee testimony
Truly the deadliest man
is it so costumers don't get scared? we have a secuarity guard in some of our supermarkets when its getting dark, and they make me feel uneasy
Fuck off with that gay shit, it would spit on the memory of the dead.
costumer[ kos-too-mer, -tyoo-; ko-stoo-mer, -styoo- ]
noun
1. a person who makes, sells, or rents costumes, as for theatrical productions.
No, nothing will happen.There is 90% chance the studio will shutdown in next couple of months once the lawsuits start pouring in.
Kyoani is done, they had pretty much no IPs too since almost everything was adaptation.
Can't speak for supermarkets, but generally yeah people don't like to know they're being watched, especially when handling money.
Before I ended up at a bank I did security for an office building and it was quite the opposite, all of our security equipment was at the front desk and we were practically uniformed secretaries/couriers.
>Is that an American thing
kinda, most of the shitholes have guards every 5 cm, I went to Colombia once and every single store had a heavy armed guard also you could find stretchers on the walls (in case of bomb attacks)
>I still do not feel comfortable to live
Shit translation, sasuga google
How do you guys even read it off Google Translate and comprehend it perfectly
Can somebody do an apt translation?
Unbelievable. This show was produced by the survivors of the KyoAni massacre. They pur their hearts and souls into this. Me and my wife bought 12 tickets and preordered the blu-ray release. We are true fans. Downvoted and reported for breaking the subreddit rules and being an incel.
This is why you don't trust fat people.
>The shareholders will want them to embrace this instead of taking more risks while they recover + the superstitious amongst them will 100% believe the Free! movie was saved by some divine intervention.
Can you dumb amerimutts go back to whatever board you came from?
Japan isn't murrica, they don't have gazillion shootings every day
>Gasoline dosent "explode" like a bomb
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.
that's him? what a disgusting fat fuck
Crappy Google translate pastebin since their auto website translator doesn't do shit so I copy-pasted it manually pastebin.com
Doubtful he managed to damage the HDD unless he completely dismantled it.
Yeah, he's literally just blur, blobs of colour and compression artifacts
nice bait worthy for a (you)
It's most likely a laptop so probably SSD instead of HDD
Most shitty laptops still have HDDs. But I guess it doesn't matter, if the data was smashed it was smashed.
That's what they're made for,
>he said
I don't know what country he's from but I think I know in germany it's 10 minutes. Then you have a category, fire proof which is till 900°C I think, and heavy fire proof which is till 1200°C, then you have the classification for building material which are for steelmills that goes till 1500°C.
Obviously these doors won't old an eternity under these temperatures. So you classify them with security numbers.
In germany and EU at least they are factors 1.25/1.5/2/2.5/2.75/3 meaning these doors will hold a temperature for 10 minutes times that security number, and that's guaranteed by the company that made them, which might mean they hold longer.
I work a steelmill, we expect fire, I used to go to a school where only the worshop had fireproof door, if someone wanted to set fire to the the classroom building we'd have no choice but to either jump, or die because the access to the roof was locked ( suicide ) and the only key was in posession of the janitor which was on a different building. Nobody expect someone to set fire to a school tho.
Guys, all of this could have been avoided if only people are required to have a loicense to buy gasoline.
We need a Gasoline Patrol! Now!
t. armchair physicist
I hate this.
I just want to die
>gasoline doesnt explode like a bomb
Yes it does you absolute fucking imbecile. It's a HIGHLY volatile accelerant that evaporates into the air when you pour it - creating a aerosol of gasoline particles that creates a huge fireball when ignited.
>Even most armed private security have the gun only for their own protection and as an absolute last resort, they're not cops who can order someone to stop
Just hire Black Water.
>most bussinesses
Normal businesses don't receive death threats regularly for shit they make.
headlines.yahoo.co.jp
>３階はアニメーターや監督らがいた
>there were animators and directors on the 3rd floor
Who did they lose?
Naoko Yamada - safe
Tatsuya Ishihara - safe
Taichi Ishidate - safe
Yasuhiro Takemoto - unknown/missing
Eisaku Kawanami - unknown/missing
Takuya Yamamura - unknown/missing
Hiroko Utsumi - unknown/missing
Taichi Ogawa - unknown/missing
>What did he mean by this?
I am guessing kigami, takemoto, ikeda, nishiya
>Do you have any proof?
There are many examples. But right now I just remember the case with the girl buried in concrete and the French chick literally eaten by her Jap classmate. The perpetrators in both cases managed to escape justice.
Everyone under the missing category, even if they are alive it means they're under critical condition and are unlikely to recover fully if at all. I'm sorry, just telling everyone to get ready for the worst.
Other otakus may get inspired from this dude from now on.
>What?
Aum Shinrikyo.
Why do you keep posting Utsumi when she stopped working for Kyoani after Free season 2 and moved to MAPPA?
Didn't Utsumi leave?
That's bullshit. Of course we have security guards in malls and such but armed guards are kinda rare except for money transportation. Complaining about stretchers is like complaining about fire hoses or first aid kits.
Nah only 6 of the deceased are in their 40s, they just can't talk
>Nobody checked the guy buying 40L of gas, no one stopped him, the gasoline spreaded in seconds, the staircase working as a smoke chimney, no fire safe staircases, people getting suffocated to death in 3 minutes, couldn't get to the roof door because people collapsed before the door and wasn't able to enter.
You sure the arsonist acted alone and isn't controlled by someone? Because it looks too suspicious when you put it this way.
That's why I said or severely injured.
That’s pretty much the same as in America. My towns had a total of one murder in the last 30 years.
it was two jerry cans, not inconceivable that it would have legitimate use for somebody and nobody expects arson in broad daylight by direct frontal attack unless you're a detective conan otaku or something
Revenge won't do you anything good. That's why modern justice system is built on the idea of helping the guilty redeem themselves and rejoin the society instead of the tribalistic idea of an eye for an eye.
Victory for me
Well, at least the ones that actually result in low crime rates like Norway and Finland.
Choke on horse cock, you fucking leaf. Nobody wants their tax money spent on evil incarnate.
Wow, you're fucking stupid.
>girl buried in concrete
The people who did it were not adults and got off with a shorter sentence
>French chick literally eaten by her Jap classmate
Frogs didn't give Nips the paperwork they needed to legally lock him up. Literally got away thanks to paperwork
>nhk asked them to unlock the doors cause they wanted to film.
So they also need to be hanged along with Hatta.
There's a good reason why NHK doesn't mention that fact in their own report on the arson.
I think double security doors would have helped. Strangers get their ID checked first. Just one more card clearance door.
>Is that an American thing in the event a school shooter gets lost?
I chuckled.
The company probably paid them to say so to avoid public wrath.
They had an employee entrance that every employee used. The front door was open only when they were expecting guests
Don't forget about Nevada-tan. She was released after just a few years because of being underaged. Contrast this with burgerstan, where we locked up the Slenderman loser girl essentially for life...and she didn't even kill anyone.
But then, Nevada was a cute loli and that American was a disgusting autist, so good release Japan.
Absolutely American
/bread
Because the same people now complaining about a lack of a guard would've complained about employing a guard one week ago. "Why would you waste money on a guard, maybe they should rather pay their employees more so they won't need one to protect them against a disgruntled co-worker, which is the only reason they'd ever need a guard" or the like. Hindsight is 20/20.
They didn't even get to the (unlocked, opening to the outside unlike what shitposters claim) doors. CO is one hell of a drug, nigga.
But most mass murders/terrorist attacks happened in broad daylight because, you know, victims return to their own home at night.
Japanese don't expect to be mass murdered by one of their own; homogeneous society and all you know
Would that much water be enough to snuff out a gasoline fire? This is the kind of shit that keeps me up at night.
>built on the idea of helping the guilty redeem
>Get tossed in prison on a baseless allegation and comes out worse
Prison is a fucking business and nothing else
No one is "evil incarnate". No matter how bad the crime the criminal committed, they are still humans like you and me. At worst they have a severe mental illness or unsolvable troubles and need help instead of unusual punishments.
Probably misunderstanding about them usually having protection at the door, which was a simple keycard mechanism from what I heard. Wouldn't have helped much IMO, as he would've either broken the glass or even rang the bell and when an employee opens the door to ask what he wants, he'd have barged in. Might've bought a few seconds at most. Or might've totally saved them, who knows. But speculating about this is rather pointless, and trying to shift the blame is just a sign of the fear people feel when they realize there are totally chaotic and irrational events going on that they cannot protect themselves against. Many cannot accept this. While trying to find solutions in order to learn from such events to avoid them as much as possible is a natural and logical instinct, one shouldn't forget that there is no total control in life. Everybody just throws himself out there into a sea of chaos each morning when getting out of bed.
thats also like all of Asia for some weird reason look up taiwan and korea
Ironic because this arsonist was in jail before and it didn't change him at all.
1.5m depth*floor area in enclosed storage tanks would be thousands of tons of water, more likely it would collapse and kill everyone during an earthquake
>The people who did it were not adults and got off with a shorter sentence
Which is bullshit because those guys literally confessed there were about 100+ guys who joined them to torture her in those 6 months, many of them them were adults and none of them ever got punished.
>Frogs didn't give Nips the paperwork they needed to legally lock him up
Because the dude's father is a bigshot bureaucrat I think.
A grim reminder indeed.
It's the closest thing to what we'd call pure evil, nobody has any obligation to feel pity or help this piece of shit, moreover, he's being treated in a hospital using taxpayer money, money that also came from the victims and their families. People have been put to death for far far less and it's this faggot mentality you're showing that's destroying nice places around the world.
is that way
I wanted to call you a faggot, but I looked it up and somehow the subway sarin attack only caused 12 deaths. Though there were ~1 000 people requiring medical attention.
Fun fact: the terrorists used trash bins to store some shit which is one of the reasons there are supposedly almost no public trash bins in Japan (combini trash bin is your best bet from what I've heard).
>there were about 100+ guys who joined them to torture her
Now identify them and prove they did it
>dude's father is a bigshot bureaucrat
So his father stopped the French from sending over paperwork?
That's why they should put on test on each and every inmate about to be release and only let those who became better go instead of letting all of them out freely.
>it's this faggot mentality you're showing that's destroying nice places around the world.
Such as Norway?
It means their prison system is bad and they should make a reform. But who knows? Maybe this is already his better state and in he would have killed more in his worse state.
I live in a 3rd world country and even here most Banks don't have guards.
You tell me, does letting the guy who killed tens of people serve a sentence of a couple of years and let him win a lawsuit against the state because he wasn't happy with his PS2 game collection in prison sound sane to you? Prison is also meant to make others not want to go to it, not just rehabilitate and keep dangerous people away from the civilized world. The ones that need help are drug addicts and the like, not mass murderers.
>Now identify them and prove they did it
If the police had really wanted to, they could have beaten the shit out of the murderers and they would have spilled the bean. They knew them since they invited them after all.
>So his father stopped the French from sending over paperwork?
You know what I mean. The Frogs colluded wth the Jap government to protect the sicko.
If I slaughter your entire family with an axe would you forgive me and let me live on your dime? I had a bad day after all, come on, can't you relate, fellow psychopath?
Not one person made it up two flights of stairs. They just had too little time. Maybe one or two people could have gotten out the window if they had fire escape there, but that's it.
On the other hand proper fire doors separating floors could've helped, but it was a fucking three-storey building. Many houses are bigger than that and they most certainly don't have fire doors. Hell, many American malls that are up to code have all the floors connected by an atrium, so no fire door separating the floors there either.
have u watched their typical tv program?
they usually make big deal of an entrance. important staff will receive the crew and take them on a tour live
>Prison is also meant to make others not want to go to it, not just rehabilitate and keep dangerous people away from the civilized world
This is where you are wrong. In a modern sense, prisons aren't supposed to be torture chamber to deter the population from going again the state's will, it is what concentration camps in totalitarian regimes do. Modern prions are precisely rehabilitation facility to help people instead of punishing them.
>The ones that need help are drug addicts and the like, not mass murderers.
Funny enough, most mass murderers committed their felonies because of their hormonal imbalance.
Even if the murderers gave them names, they would still be lacking any proof
>The Frogs colluded wth the Jap government to protect the sicko
Yeah I'm sure the goverments of two countries worked together to keep someone out of jail
>come on, it's 2019, keeping the law through fear of punishment is so 16th century
You're such a stupid faggot, holy shit. I can only hope you're some garbage man with an internet connection and not in any political power.
>Prison is also meant to make others not want to go to it, not just rehabilitate and keep dangerous people away from the civilized world. The ones that need help are drug addicts and the like, not mass murderers.
The only reason why anyone ever wants to go to prison is when criminals get used to the prison and alienated from the real world, and this only happens in countries with punishment type prisons, not rehabilitation type prisons. It doesn't have to be torture or even boring for it to be undesirable to lose your freedom and your privacy.
Nice argument supported by scientific studies.
fucking frogs
Yeah, the crime rates of those faggot countries that focus on rehabilitation instead of punishment must be absolutely horrendous.
>Even if the murderers gave them names, they would still be lacking any proof
Just beat them until they give in. Or water boarding. Or sleep deprivation. Most of them were just yakuza and other kinds of scums who deserved it any way.
>Yeah I'm sure the goverments of two countries worked together to keep someone out of jail
Which happened more offen than you want to believe.
Yeah lets just torture people who might be innocent just because some shithead murderer named them
Prison has to be more than just an inconvenience, retard. Have you also considered the ethical problems of people that have suffered at the hands of the inmate having to support this "rehab"?
Yeah, I wish I could give as many scientific based citations as you did in your posts, plebbitor. Fuck off.
Japan's prisons aren't the faggot kind yet their crime stats are very low. Your point?
>inb4 hurr durr they suppress their crime stats
They have their chuuni anime. They most certainly KNOW violence. Only not in the real world.
>if you kill or torture your enemies you're just as bad as them
Maybe you faggots should stop watching shonenshit.
All you fags keep parroting bad design, but two staircases is plenty for such a small building. Yeah the spiral staircase let the smoke spread quickly, but a shitload of buildings (malls, offices, schools) have many floors connected.
imagine
Like I said, those guys' associates were mostly scummy criminals. That type couldn't be innocent in any way. They must be guilty of one crime or another.
Is that the fucking Japanology guy.
>Yeah, I wish I could give as many scientific based citations as you did in your posts, plebbitor. Fuck off.
The difference is that I could do it if I could be bothered, whereas you couldn't.
KyoAnus thinks (thought, heh) that blurry shit is more 'artistic'.
Needs more narrowness. He's not that fat compared to me.
>they suppress their crime stats
Which is unironically true. Only their conviction rate is low because their attorneys refuse make cases unless they are confident they would win.
Maybe you should stop being a literal monkey and evolve to the level of the rest of us civilized people.
Then watch what? Edgy chink murderhobo isekai?
Yes, I shall forgive the killer of my family and let him fuck my wife while he's at it, just like you do in the civilized west. It's okay, he doesn't know any better afterall. Europe really deserves to be glassed.
>Edgy
here we go again
That's a pretty stupid assumption to make. Plenty of countries with homogenous populations have had serial killers.
Isn't Nevada-tan an Asperger though?
Totes, dude.
Well, if you want to confirm that, you can just try looking up the evidence to support your position and notice how it doesn't exist.
All right Muhammad.
So shit like pic is illegal in Canada and the US? All those floors connected together without fire doors in between.
We have buildings like this in every EU country I've been to.
Give the fat fuck arsonist death by a thousand cuts and film it for study and to show his parents.
t. Binlan
Cute girls can't be autism
Roof door was unlocked and open outwards, the CO killed them so fast they didn't even get to it.
It triggers our anxiety.
>Europe deserves to be glassed
Good luck with Iran.
this is a mall, but yes it would be illegal if there were no exits on the upper floors. i doubt the japanese are so incompetent that a major shopping center like this is designed that way.
>shitload of buildings (malls, offices, schools) have many floors connected.
Ever notice you have to go through doors to get to the stairs? There's a reason for that, and fire doors are a minimal standard.
But Violet Evergarden is cute, user.
that suspended escalator rustles my jimmies
What's my position, cum for brains? That prisons shouldn't be literal gulags that fester more crime but not be safe spaces either? That if stoners go to prison they should be treated differently than murderous psychopaths and vice versa? That there's a point on which you can't rehabilitate a mind so far gone so you have to stop funding his pretend therapy and just make him dance with the noose? You don't even have the faintest damn clue what you're even saying you stupid porch monkey sucking Swede, kill yourself.
The KyoAnus building was small as fuck, and it still had three staircases. Save for arsony everyone would have plenty of time to escape, and you can't really engineer against arsony.
What did she mean by this?
>kill yourself.
You first, nigger.
>three
Nani? It had one staircase, spiral staircases don't count because they don't meet the dimensional standards for evacuation.
Anyone else think this was a big hoax? Gasoline fires can't melt steel beams
Your life is a hoax.
That's what I thought faggot, shut your soi sucking lips up and pull the trigger, you have no clue what you're talking about and you're probably this defensive because you've gone to prison or did something that would land you in one.
Sorry I meant two staircases and an elevator. Everybody could've left the building in one minute, but for some unknown reason an arsonist started the fire near an entrance and blocked their escape. Funny thing, right?
It's not funny, no. But a lot could have been prevented with an emergency exit near the closed off stairs. It's useless to play Captain Shoulda now though, what happened happened.
You're an idiot. A lock is a retard filter from people who don't take the time or use resources to open a door. Locks are a first line of defense and it isn't the only deterrent to a home.
>closed off stairs
wut
But the tragedy melts my heart.
He is an idiot, but there was no reason to keep the building locked while employees were in it, the shitbag could have done this in a supermarket just as easily.
Well, I assumed they were closed off, that's even worse. God damn, Japan really has shit fire code.
Faggot.
I want to kancho her butthole
Your family's next on the list buddy.
KyoAni, stop this man!
The building was the size of a big house. It's not a big office building.
>Japan really has shit fire code
That's because Japan itself was once nicknamed "Rising Sun". So, there's no need for it to have proper fire code.
thread ded like takemoto.
>NHK-san, stop this man!
Fixed.
>Guards, stop this man!
Fixed.
It doesn't matter, what brings up the fire hazard scale are the materials used (the more untreated wood, the bigger the risk), the maximum number of people it's supposed to house (70 is a crowded space which should require at least 2 closed off stairwells both with emergency exits and at a distance of a maximum of 20 meters between them) and the function it serves (in this case, office building is medium risk because of all the paper used, I think). This would apply in my country at least.
t. architect
NHK would've used their big arrogant methods and drive off security checks anyway because they're such a big company bla bla bla
These blue man images are creepier than the real life arsonist.
>This would apply in my country at least.
stopped reading there
Well, it works, I don't know Japanese fire code, sorry. All I can say is that it's shit.
>an elevator
You don't take the fucking elevator when the building is on fire.
underrated
>What is the serial killers of the 50s to the 90s
A bad memory? Really, you can't deny what happened is a one in a billion thing.
Maybe you should tell them instead of posting here waiting for the archives then
america doesn't count its full of mutts of different european nations and even races
How it should be.
Which sources were saying this?
If you look in the pic there's fire suppression everywhere across the ceilings.
There's clearly going to be separate fire code for something like a mall with large open spaces, but even in that image there's an abundance of fire suppression, so anything that broke out in the shops or walkways shouldn't be burning for long and shouldn't spread far.
On the other hand, KyoAni had zero fire suppression, no fire escapes, no pressurized stair well, no fire doors and practically no smoke containment. Whether it's because of lax fire code or penny pinching, they fucked up and a lot of people died because of it.
Very funny
The real question is why does Japan have such shit fire regulations for businesses?
>My special brand of prison has never been tried before
chernobyl.com
Imagine the smell
See
Some sources said some of the survivors had limbs amputated, nothing about cutting off all limbs. I don't think that's even medically ethical though don't quote me on that.
because those regulations are made for accidents, not some terrorist dousing the place in gasoline
do you think american cardboard buildings are immune to that
>A bad memory
Yeah. We replace serial killers with mass murderers. That's real secure.
Japan had them too. All countries have predatorial humans. Go back to /pol/
Go back under your rock, fucktard.
>stopped reading there
No shit, I also stopped reading your post after the last line.
>armed guards are kinda rare
idk that's what I saw, also a lot of militars (not in duty) around the area
>Complaining about stretchers is like complaining about fire hoses or. . .
not complaining, is just unusual to see it around everywhere
>He is an idiot, but there was no reason to keep the building locked while employees were in it, the shitbag could have done this in a supermarket just as easily.
You're as dumb as he is. It's a private building with people that have specific business attending whatever function that goes on there. This is where a private key system comes into place with passes.
If a fat, mentally unstable otaku can burn down a building with half people inside it dying then they need to update the code. Also I didn't mention anything about American buildings.
go back to school, brat
That's what I thought retard. Go MIGA elsewhere
Get a job
good
I get it, cocksucker, you never worked a day in your pathetic life, otherwise you'd know that no business that doesn't involve safety hazards locks their front entrance, especially the ones that are open to the public. Just how low IQ are you, you lazy spear chucker?
>armed guards are kinda rare
>I never worked a day in my life
Funny you say that because I have worked and even in warehouse they'll have front door security and a ID pass. Specific utility companies in New York won't even let you in without a pass. Shit I've done residential hotel work and it's required you are checked in at the front desk before they give you a pass sticker. This isn't a public building. You're just inexperienced in life and/or unemployed.
Minnesota wasn't any different. They also had a lobby that was open with locked doors for businesses so you had to call or get buzzed in if you had business.
>nothing about cutting off all limbs. I don't think that's even medically ethical
To preserve life, doctors will take radical measures including total amputation. This poor girl got flesh eating bacteria after riding a zipline and this was the result.
NHK people was like 10 minutes away when he got in the building if I recall propertly, they call the police when they saw the fire.
>all these idiots who think small offices should have an armed guard 24/7, three layers of fire proof doors everywhere and two fire escapes per window
>its too expensive, on the off chance something happens I guess everyone will die :)
Well, I'm sorry, we don't have angry mutts shooting up kikes on a daily basis here to the point that we need to lock our fucking hotel lobbies and I'm guessing neither does Japan.
Still doesn't excuse the fact that they told kyoani to stop security checks for their interview later on the day. NHK is the real perpetrator. Fuck that corporate shit.
Well then you deserve to burn and perish like kyoani did. Maybe you'll learn then that caution is better than recklessness.
>copeland
Not angry mutts but a fat dude with some petrol. Where are you even from that's so trusting anyway?
Why aren't American schools protected by 20 armed security guards 24/7?
Tragedies happen because it's destiny, retard.
government run and they rather spend money on sports stadiums (which are guarded btw)
Translation here
>lives in a country where mass shootings have become a stale meme, 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of crime and everyone can get easy access to firearms
>shieet son at least we have locks
Ok, mutt.
I'd rather take that 1 in a billion risk that one deranged faggot will burn me alive than live anywhere near close to your melting pot of 56%. Also, somewhere much much whiter and better than you, that's for sure.
If they had a guard at kyoani, it probably would have been an old unarmed ojisan like those that protect the schoolgirls from hentai intruders. What's he gonna do against being lit on fire?
sacrifice himself by jumping on the flames to snuff it out
How do I get that guards job?
I'm not even a big fan and this still hurts me.
Disappearance was a masterpiece, easily one of the best anime ever made.
It's just so tragic but we can only move forward brother, that's all we can really do.
Haha whatever you say /pol/tard. Its hard to be white when all your skin is charcoal.
Good guards exist, but there is no way that a guard company would assign one to guard a low-risk location like an anime company.
Listen to yourself, seething between taking bites out of your taco. You'll get shot a billion times before I even get a sunburn, faggot.
Imagine sitting in the gatehouse playing pocket pool all day watching passing ojousama. Getting that job must require God tier connections.
>I'm not even a big fan
>move forward
easy for you to say
What if they did it on purpose and told Aoba the info to make the news?
That's why the president wants to arm teachers.
Haha I am a fan of tacos but they're not too easy to get here. I think you're the only one seething here as your insults fail to land.
So then make them.
Christ, really fighting that stereotype, are we?
You both need to suck each other's taquito, faggots.
I like foreign food. Hardly makes me a stereotype idiot.
Sure, thing porky.
>I like foreign food
What else would you like, mutts have no national dish besides burgers.
I'll pass, you two can do it though, I'll watch.
Most malls will have separate stairs that have fire doors, thing is most visitors don't know they're there. I know that one mall near me has them near one of the entrances but since only the staff tend to use them most wouldn't even know they exist.
I don't need to be a fan to feel empathy. Plus I did just say Disappearance is one of my top movies so it's not as if I didn't like them.
>I'll watch.
I knew you were a faggot.
You think I'm gonna miss the opportunity of watching 2 male hippos in their natural habitat trying to reach each other's 1 inch wieners only to suck on their gunt flaps instead? That shit is funny.
I'm a thin girl, you fucken bitch. Now fuck off to some other thread. Nice try, tranny.
No wonder you act like a skizo, typical woman behaviour.
Could you go be a faggot someplace else?
Yours isn't different though. I'm just here having fun with disgusting, mexi black apes like you. Can't you tell? This thread is dead anyway. Let me hurt your feelings, pls.
I've been more substantial to the threads than a "hurr durr why didn't they just lock their doors" faggot, fuck off. We're also on page 10, newcancer, learn what that means.
I've been dead inside since I found out the studio burned down and people died, you're cheering me up if anything else.
Who genuinely cares though?
Nice going Sherlock. If you use your noggin a little more maybe you'll finally figure out why your Burger based insults aren't working.
I do, I grew up with some of their shows and I really looked up to them as an aspiring animator. It's called empathy, you should try it.
