Vrains will finally come to an in Spring of 2020(Duh) and will probably be the shortest Yu-Gi-Oh! Series to date. We are finally beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Now without getting too overly excited because we don't want to make the same mistake twice, expectations? For: >Protagonist >Main Girl >Rival >Cast >Spirit, Ai, Alien or whatever the new companion will be. >Serious tone, silly tone or for it to gradually chance as the show goes on. >Story of epic proportions like Arc-V or something more safe like Vrains or maybe similar to Zexal, DM, 5D's or GX.
Apparently they said in the trailer "The history of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime series will change." But we already know by now to never trust the Japanese since they hype anything.
>Now without getting too overly excited because we don't want to make the same mistake twice, expectations? That posters will still have bad opinions like OP.
Jonathan Green
This is the one thing we can be sure of. CAC type threads are worthless. I don't care about what you guys want, I care about what you think of what we are getting.
>Protagonist A Judai would be nice. Somebody who is normally light hearted and maybe a bit "dumb" at times but still knows when the situation is dire and needs to take things seriously >Main Girl I never have high expectations for main girls, but a tomboy like Anna would be ideal for me >Rival Somebody like Reiji to be a foil to the MC. A person who is always serious and is also the best duelist in the show. >Cast Give me chuuni edgelords and sawatari tier comic reliefs >Spirit, Ai, Alien or whatever the new companion will be. I would like to see no mini-companion that does nothing. >Serious tone, silly tone or for it to gradually chance as the show goes on. I'd say a mix would be ideal. It shouldn't be constant life-or-death duels like vrains but it shouldn't have massive toneshifts like GX >Story of epic proportions like Arc-V or something more safe like Vrains or maybe similar to Zexal, DM, 5D's or GX. I'd like to see a story that hasn't been done in yugioh before.
Jackson Hernandez
Since it's highly unlikely that Yoshida will be the main writer on the next series I doubt will be getting anything resembling a "power trio" if only because there might not be much consistency.
Jaxon Ross
>"The history of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime series will change." This doesn't mean anything, it's going to change by default by there simply being a new series and time passing
Julian Cruz
trio implies anyone other than Ai and Yusaku matter
We have nothing except some bright lights and a montage of the previous MCs to go on for the new series. Absolutely jackshit. No new summoning method, nothing. Not even a tagline for the series. All the announcer says is tanoshi duel
As such I will claim the MC will be Anna Kaboom because there's literally no evidence to prove otherwise
I mean we had Vector and Standard Sora, they were pretty memorable for their time.
Dark Carly was cool too, same with that Infernity guy. Ai only seems amazing because everyone else in his show is bland
Cooper James
>Emma >not Go OH NO NO NO!
Brody Cruz
>Protagonist Someone like Jaden or Yugi would be nice. I would even take another Yuma but please forget about Yusaku forever. >Main Girl Someone like Kotori who is only there to lust for the MC's cock. But in all honesty, i would love to have a tomboy for main girl like Anna. >Rival Someone super crazy like Kaiba or tryhard like Jack. I don't know who the rival in GX was supposed to be but Chazz, Aster, and Zane were fun. >Cast A group of few friends like in DM, 5D's and GX would be neat. >Spirit, Ai, Alien or whatever the new companion will be. A spirit but personally i just want the MC to deal with shit on his own like Yusei. >Serious tone, silly tone or for it to gradually chance as the show goes on. Tone like DM or GX would be nice but that's too edgy for today standards. >Story of epic proportions like Arc-V or something more safe like Vrains or maybe similar to Zexal, DM, 5D's or GX. Ideally something like ARC-V but there is no way they wouldn't fuck up so I wouldn't mind a story like DM, GX, Zexal or 5D's. I want the writers to go as crazy as they can.
>Standard Sora Isn't he a minor villain? >Dark Carly was cool too But she was just a villain for one character. >same with that Infernity guy Neat as he is, calling him the infernity guy isn't really a show of confidence in his performance. I would have gone with Godwin or even Jack for 5DS.
Juan Harris
>All the announcer says is tanoshi duel Someone said TANOSHII!?
>Ai will forever be the best villain of the franchise He is good but he is hardly a villain. Also is hard to take him seriously which stops him from being the best
Jaxson Howard
ok speedwatcher
Henry Reed
I -think- we're in the clear for no DM super, since it'd be pretty odd to promote the latest YGO series by showing ALL the protagonists and then just going back to Yugi.
So of course the main contention of funposting will be if the MC has a benis or bagina
Christopher Green
>Still ending as expected hahaha You should stop obsessing over posters instead of obsessing over anime.
So did the spectre posts, revolver posts, and blue shit posting but those never stopped.
Colton Torres
those characters exist/are re;levant and it's fun to shitpost about them, this doesn't exist/aren't relevant so it's fun to see it get BTFO
Hunter Cooper
I thought that the first 3 yugioh's were great but is that where yugioh's prime was, now it just seems to be dying. Will the franchise be saved or waved on bye bye.
Benjamin Ward
>I thought that the first 3 yugioh's were great but is that where yugioh's prime was Not with how bad the animation was for the first two of them.
Jackson Ortiz
I've just been monitoring Vrains threads from a distance after Arc-V crashed and burned.
From an uninformed view it seems like the series never reached the same lows, but also never the same highs
That's what happens when they have negative animation manpower to spare. The EDs used to also involve higher production values but now it's just done mostly by 1-2 guys they have lying around who have some extra time to draw some stills in the time crunch they have to work with
not unusual after many years if a singer has been wearing out their voice with unhealthy techniques or they smoke
Carson Fisher
if arc-v is a steel cliff down, vrains is more like the oklahoma grasslands: boring, rolling hills with a few pits here and there dug by prairie dogs those pits have bohman's name on them btw
Evan Kelly
I wasn’t even aware he rebooted Overlap, nice
Justin Edwards
Is there any database or list of YGO card artists profiles? I love some of the art in the cards and would love to follow the artists on some sort of platform but there is no credit like there are for pokemon cards.
Jayden Watson
only a few are known (like, less than 5 probably) because if there's no legal requirement to credit, Konami isn't going to bother. Plus it seems like the vast majority of cards are made through a team effort/pipeline kind of process.
>it got bad when I was no longer the target demographic
Parker Flores
I don't think it's controversial to think that there's been a slump for these past ~5 years of yugioh anime due to its own fuckups and the industry conditions
>he liked everything from the inception of the franchise in 1996 to the fourt series that ended in 2014. That is a very wide margin also do you honestly think Vrains and god forbid arc-V is good?
Andrew Rogers
But there are clear commercial flaws with the earlier series as well. DM wastes half of its characters and has focus problems, GX is scatterbrained and its plot isn't really leading anywhere, 5DS is rewrites and has major character problems.
Cameron Cox
Kind of a shame that he couldn't keep that smoother androgynous voice going, he sounds much weaker these days
Jeremiah Martinez
Just animate Duel Terminal. How fucking hard is this?
Aiden Edwards
Btw why do people complain about animation with long running series. Most people grew up With subpar animated shows. You have to accept this.
Nolan Bell
VRAINS has about as many problems as any of the other ones. Yeah it works out alright. I never watched Arc-V.
Jace Russell
That looks like Kaiser Dragon.
Jace Morris
but people can say they enjoyed those in spite of their flaws because they found the characters compelling enough and entertaining enough OVERALL on an episode to episode basis. no one in their right mind would call any single series flawless you dunce
Brayden Cox
>You have to accept this. No you don't. Stop being a fuckwit.
Brayden Lee
But DT is just AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS OH NO WE HAVE TO STOP IT OH WE STOPPED IT OH NO AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS
Grayson Ortiz
>when there used to be a higher bar overall for yugioh production values that has slowly sunk downwards with time starting with arc-v >can't even get 5 OPs for a series anymore because they're consistently more understaffed than ever, while the production has gone through its worst crises in arc-v through vrains >lol let's retcon history and say it was always like that no
Jason Wilson
Any yugioh series is a slog to wait for on an episode to episode basis I've waited through three of them. I'm sure the earlier series would have been called out for being major slogs if there were a group of people paying attention to them from an episode to episode or chapter to chapter basis. A lot of those duels were really long.
DT might work as like small shorts that show important events, but that requires some executive getting off their ass for once and finding a free studio to hire to make it.
Josiah Roberts
So Yugioh in a nutshell?
Ryan Rodriguez
Actually was there any reason on why DM's animation quality went down in the later seasons?
Each past series was aired in a different context and era of anime. What worked in 2001 isn't guaranteed to work as well in 2019. Even methods/formats can start to become outdated and it's not exempt from criticism
Daniel Cruz
As you like it.
Cameron Martinez
But Yugioh anime usually lean on one ancient evil at a time, or 2 dual antagonistic ancient forces. user is obviously referring to how the cycle repeats to the degree that it becomes silly and joke-worthy
Brody Butler
Season 1's action isn't something to praise either.
Matthew Perez
But this is literally the plot of YUGIOH GX. Oh no Sacred Beasts, oh ok we beat them, OH NO LIGHT OF DESTRUCTION, oh ok we beat them, OH NO YUBEL, oh ok we fucked them, OH NO DARKNESS, oh ok we beat them.
Joshua Robinson
Gallop was moving towards gearing up eyeshield 21's production during the time millenium world was going on, so they left the bulk of MW's animation to nobodies who weren't paid enough to give a shit. And after that all of GX was done exclusively by gooks
yeah, and gx is remembered as the wacky meme joke series that got edgy 1 time. you just reinforced the point
John Fisher
I'd like to see an MC with normal hair while their destined rival's the one with crazy hair.
Noah Morales
>Even methods/formats can start to become outdated and it's not exempt from criticism A very good story should be able to hold its own a very long time. I just think there were clear and noticeable problems that detract in significant ways from those series like there are today.
Justin Sullivan
After the majority of arc-v's side/minor characters looking like they did, my standards have stayed so low since then I'll be glad if they simply don't look uggo
Aiden Cruz
I forgot he did TeniPuri What would you guys write to buck the trend? What other conflicts could you package up for young kids?
Christian Gutierrez
OP 2 & 3 were pretty great so I got no qualms. Most of the EDs were not bad too
Matthew Clark
I'm confused where our disagreement is. This is exactly what I want from a YGO duel terminal series.
Sure, but in the early part of the franchise it was more affordable due to the novelty it had as being in the early phase. Kinda like how people tend to be a little more lenient on the first 2 cours of a new Yugioh anime because there's still some novelty there and it's in the warming up phase. As a shounen Yugioh DM was the first to establish such a long-surviving card game originating from a manga.
The later series in theory have so many past examples to learn and grow from but that doesn't really seem to be a priority. At best Vrains feels like a holdover show that solely exists because they already signed contract with TV Tokyo and they need to make sure the production is stable by the time Ygo7 comes around.
Jayden White
Tbh this was predictable but it's still underwhelming and frustrating how VRAINS never used to it's full extent the characters and concepts it had. I really wanted to like this show, it could have been a discount 5Ds at best but 5Ds was still pretty enjoyable most of the time.
Bentley Wright
If Vrains had budget issue then why did they hire high-profile VAs like Sakurai or Yuki Kaji as regular characters?
Jack Gonzalez
They did what they could with the circumstances they were dealt. Not really much more you can ask for. The next series is where the real test as to whether they can finally get their shit together after Arc-V's debacle. Vrains just happened to be the one that needed to take the fallout from Arc-V.
Daniel Collins
I dont really care about that, I just think duel terminal wouldn't work as an engaging full series. It could have a manga or a series of shorts instead. The only main thing I would want is open acknowledgement of magic again to make the premise less awkward
John Watson
Nice
Kevin Stewart
>During the Battle Phase: Target 1 "@Ignister" monster you control in the Extra Monster Zone and 1 Link Monster in your Main Monster Zone; banish until the end of the Battle Phase, that Main Monster Zone monster and cards from your opponent's hand, up to that monster's Link Rating, and if you do, move that Extra Monster Zone monster to your Main Monster Zone. During your opponent's Battle Phase, if the first declared attack is an attack involving 2 Link Monsters: You can banish this card from your GY; end the Battle Phase. You can only activate 1 "TAimed Technique" per turn. Buff Ai's spell and traps first and then we'll talk
>The only main thing I would want is open acknowledgement of magic again to make the premise less awkward Never gonna happen for another 5 years at least. Sex cults don't wear off so easy.
Jayden Bell
Because seiyuus are a big deal for drawing in seiyuu-fags, and there's a lot of them. Heck half my enjoyment from Vrains comes down to how good of a job these three do in the VO department. In Japan some otaku will religiously follow shows based on whether or not their favourite seiyuu are voicing anyone.
Budget is hardly the issue, because in the case where Konami/NAS are the ones who want Yugioh on air, the producers have the advantage in requesting the necessary funds to keep the show on air. Or else there will simply be no show and Konami/NAS don't get what they want. It's the finding people and making them stay part that's difficult when there's so much other anime being made now (several that are much more high profile than Yugioh) that needs competent animators. It's a manpower and time problem.
Do you see a respected freelancer going "hmm I'd like to work on this kid's show for a full 3 years and deal with those stressful weekly deadlines" if they get an opportunity on another show like that fate sequel case files show or vinland as an example?
Ryder Lewis
Many other kids' show freely use magic. Depiction of magic doesn't have to have cultic or satanic pentagrams plastered all over the show
Aoi alone in the streets after losing her brother!
Zachary Stewart
>Sure, but in the early part of the franchise it was more affordable due to the novelty it had as being in the early phase Why? Any leniency to be had should be gone by the time Yu-Gi-Oh! decided to shift to a pure card game direction and shove most of the unique and interesting scenarios out of the way for more and more card games. >As a shounen Yugioh DM was the first to establish such a long-surviving card game originating from a manga. That's not a quality, that's just another commercial aspect. It was selling magazines and volumes before that ever happened. >The later series in theory have so many past examples to learn and grow from but that doesn't really seem to be a priority What? Almost every single goes out its way to be different and fresh from the others. Maybe it doesn't work out perfectly often but it's not blindly ignoring the past. It seems like your criticisms boil down to it's okay if old shit wasn't solid because it was old.
Matthew Gonzalez
isn't that what Vrains basically is?
Adrian Scott
Having big name actors can secure more budget.
Tyler Foster
the reason it was so commercially successful was because that's what kids wanted and were so drawn to in the first place, because it was something novel. there wouldn't be spin offs if not for the card game.
also, the vrains characters and their relationships are a pretty far cry from the character relationships of earlier series. like, at least we knew a few humanizing 'daily life' details about Yugi that he's passionate about games in general, loves his friends, and that he has a loving grandpa.
Austin Edwards
You just know Yusaku will take her in and then take advantage of her to give her a baby. That or Aoi will have to resort to prostitution. >Aoi Doujins will become canon
>the reason it was so commercially successful was because that's what kids wanted and were so drawn to in the first place, because it was something novel. Commercial success doesn't make a story better. >also, the vrains characters and their relationships are a pretty far cry from the character relationships of earlier series. like, at least we knew a few humanizing 'daily life' details about Yugi Why would their relationships be the same? It's not the same story or characters or context. As for humanization that's really one of Yugi's biggest problems in relation to the plot. He never really ascends to Atem's level. Even if you appreciate being able to relate it doesn't really work to the plot's advantage.
well if the context and goals of vrains is to prove the saying "no man is an island" wrong then I can't argue with that. if it wants to be cold and boring like a plain bagel sitting in the fridge, nothing's stopping it
Connor Campbell
Elaborate further
Cameron Green
virus dont click
Carter Rivera
hell yeah, Joey's pro duelist journey is about to start!
Elaborate further. Running through the Google Translate, the article is mostly talking about the card game, so either there's something missing that only Nips speakers can notice or you're just making assumptions because there's a picture of Yugi and Kaiba.
Does no SOL mean man is an island? The main character seems like he's capable of working with others and having friendship even if it seems like there's more friction.
ugh if the next MC is just as flat and boring as stusaku there better be more than 1 other decent character to make up for it
Nolan Reed
Hopefully Rebecca will become canon with a new anime.
Henry Howard
Friction would imply there's notable character dynamics going on there. Keeping at arm's length is the Vrains philosophy.
Aaron Wilson
Seriously people why you do this? DM is my favorite YGO series but you are starting to sound like those faggots who want reboots or continuations of their favorite series with the original characters. DM already ended with Darkside Of Dimensions. DM won't come back without Kaz and he is DONE. Move on for god's sake. You were saying DM Super two years ago too
I unironically liked Arc-V more than Vrains and Zexal.
Thomas Richardson
several other shounen do fine with engaging character relationships without any filler (or having the best character conversations in important plot episodes) in half the time or less. vrains is not one of those
People seriously want a DM continuation? Nine times out of ten, a continuation of a series that has ended ages ago usually turned out to be horrible or mediocre at best since they either have to regress the old characters or making up bullshit to develop them further. Just look at Dragon Ball Super or Digimon Tri. Heck, DSOD already regressed Jonouchi's character into another joke.
Cooper Long
He was done in many years ago with DM before Darkside as well. He'll come back for more if there's $$$ that needs to be made.
Juan Cruz
i just fucking hope they don't shaft mai in this new anime. hated how she was treated in the original
Benjamin Taylor
>Heck, DSOD already regressed Jonouchi's character into another joke Bullshit, Joey was always the funny guy people liked to make fun of
Ayden Taylor
yes, I want to see the Legendary Duelists cards animated and Joey playing Red-Eyes. I don't mind if it's just a dumb tournament or slice of life with card games.
Henry Russell
I don't get which relationship is really lacking.
Brody Powell
Same. My hopes for this anime is that she and Joey become a thing.
Nolan Morris
understandable, because outside of Yusaku and Ai there really aren't any worth talking about when it comes to Yusaku's relationship web
Parker Russell
>Haha what if we kill how the original DM ended and have the Pharaoh come back?!?!
Ayden Wood
Kusanagi is his long time friend and operator, Soulburner is a reliable ally, Revolver is his clear rival. Go is someone he really appreciates as a duelist.
Jaxson Jackson
So is no one going to bother translating what it actually says...? Google translate says the article is talking only about 10000 Dragon because the card game surpassed 10000 cards for the first few paragraphs, so it makes sense to use a DM image for that benchmark.
Then there's 1 line afterwards mentioning there's going to be a new anime series before talking about 10000 dragon again and a special voting poll for something.
same. along with yugi/anzu and kaiba/serenity as well
Hunter Allen
He's just baiting, yes
Ryder Thomas
how is that demonstrating they're relationships that are worth discussion when you yourself can't be bothered to do more than name alliances born of convenience
William Phillips
Arc-V remake when
Carson Edwards
Seems like it. But why is everyone else acting so retarded, then
Landon Thomas
Link/Ritual World never ever
John Bell
Nope. Better get used to this until December, user.
>do more than name alliances born of convenience Well Playmaker saved them all a bunch of times. And most of them helped him analyze and fight his enemies. But you really don't want to go down the alliances born of convenience because that's how most MCs and rivals become friends at all. I still don't buy Kaiba as a friend to Yugi. Or Shark and Kaito as friends to Yuma.
Isaac Jones
>DM that high ok retard
Angel Rogers
>Dragon Ball Super hey i blame more on TOEI bullshit the move work fine
Brody Murphy
Another fucking DM anime? Why can't these fucks do anything new?
Jaxson Garcia
>Each day a vote will be held to select one of the secret rares for the pack Doesn't say whether you can choose any card in existence, but if you could, is it possible to game it so that they're all Joey cards? Say Swordsman of Landstar? Moonspeak anons please help.
James Bell
still not getting any convincing arguments for why yusaku's shallow relationships are at all worth talking about several other anons in the past have bothered to talk about the dynamic between yuma and shark/nasch at least and what their clash meant in the story
Nathaniel Garcia
>Another fucking DM anime we have another DM anime?
Isaac Hall
You're just mad vrains is dead last
Ian Morales
dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum
Jonathan Myers
RATE THEM Zexal>5DS>GX>DM>Season 0>Arc-V>Vrains
Carson Peterson
EOPs will always take the bait. Fuck proper sourcing. And if the false information produces "good" shitposting bait/material it will be circulated regardless
>still not getting any convincing arguments for why yusaku's shallow relationships They're just simple like any other relationship. >several other anons in the past have bothered to talk about the dynamic between yuma and shark/nasch at least and what their clash meant in the story Shark's a whiny asshole like Ai who can't let go. You don't need an overwrought explanation. It's not that fucking deep. It's never been that deep outside of mythological allegories that most people don't give a fuck about.
The stills are still better constructed than Vrains
Colton Jackson
I hope Yoshida fucks off for the next series. This homolust bullshit has gone on for too long.
Jose Jackson
Because these guys are pretty lazy. The 2020 anime being DM sequel is just for 20th anniversary pandering.
Christopher Perry
Eh pretty close to how I would rate it. But 5DS>GX>Zexal S2>DM>Season 0>Arc-V>Zexal S1>Vrains
Jason Thompson
oh snap, nuh uh user strikes again to own those anons who dared to dream of something good for yugioh youtube.com/watch?v=K91EfOnuPl8
Owen Myers
You can pretend that it's some pretentious conflict where they have high values but it's not. Shark simply refuses to back down. And Yuma's response is more or less "but we're still friends right?"
Cooper Perry
get his ass
Kevin Jenkins
>Vrains that low Fucking kek
Wyatt Wilson
if yugioh isn't worth the time or energy to discuss to you, why bother being on a yugioh thread at all....?
Even Yoshida doesn't seem particularly interested in the homolust this time around, though. I'll be surprised if he actually wants to stick around.
Justin Clark
So how are they going to make the game not about Link Summoning in Master Rule 5?
Zachary Richardson
>holding posters' opinions in high regard What a joke.
William Powell
Because there's only 2 I would go back to in Arc-V (Shun vs Sora, Yuya vs Reiji II). In Vrains there are maybe 4, which could potentially become 5 or 6 if Ai vs Yusaku is good.
Sebastian Rivera
Oh god what the fuck?
Hunter Murphy
Link summoning in conjunction with how many mechanics are loaded into the game right now could mean they might be able to get away with just doing links again for 3 more years. The next gimmick might solely be premise-based in the anime and not a game mechanic. Or the new mechanic is smaller scale.
Joshua Ward
What the flying fuck are these Vrain duels that you can go back to?
Connor Wood
I just want to put my fucking synchro and xyz monsters in the main monster zone again damn it. I'm so tired of waiting for my favorite legacy decks to get link support so they can actually be playable again.
I thought Shun vs Dennis was pretty good.
Jaxson Gonzalez
OH YEEEEEESSS
Charles Martin
Yusaku vs Revolver (s1 finale), Revolver vs Windy, Lighting vs Specter, Lightning vs Revolver
I enjoyed the duel enough watching it but not enough to want to rewatch it outside of the very last attack for the demolition
Jeremiah Martinez
Oh get the fuck out of here, none of those compares to most of Arc-V's duels
Andrew Morales
Yuusaku vs Revolver (S1 end) Yuusaku vs Akira Yuusaku vs Specter Yuusaku vs Bohman (57/58) Yuusaku vs Bohman (just the final turn)
Revolver vs Windy/Lightning
Evan Harris
why?
Michael Allen
Actually curious to see the average age of the anons that actually like Vrains. I wonder how DM would hold up if it was released today? I think it would pretty good albeit the censorship it would receive
I’ve only gone back to rewatch Shun vs Sora, looking back at it they did a really good job of baiting us with that duel. Everything went to shit after
Brody Lewis
>Any duels with Boreman seriously? Literally all of Vrains duels are boring with bad animations and bad action, compare them to literally any duel from Arc-V and the quality between the two is as clear as night and day, Arc-V's just clearly superior with more soul put into them.
Cooper Carter
>Vrains >it's another Bohman duel
Christopher Lewis
As is, DM is even slower than Vrains because of the nature of early 00s shounen adaptations. And as janky as Vrains looks at times, some parts of Millennium World would flatly be unfit to air
Nathaniel Fisher
Vrains duels are plenty enjoyable on the basis of the decks and strategies being used being the most true to life out of all the series so far. Whether or not you like the characters themselves is another question. Sure if all you're after is pretty lights and sounds Arc-V could win out, but then I'd ask why you're not just watching Zexal and pointing to that as your exemplar of top quality
Alexander Anderson
Its better than Speed Duels and Deus Ex Skills, come on And they're still better than literally every duel from Drains
Cameron Harris
Anyone have the webm of Aoi and Yusaku hand""""""shaking"""""""?
Jeremiah Young
>it's another revulva duel >it's another bohman duel >aoi jobs >go jobs This is the writing structure of drains
Jayden Bailey
Zexal>GX>DM>5Ds>Vrains>Arc-V
Chase Hughes
>TOKEN SPAM AND ENDLESS LINK SPAM Woooooow, so enjoyable I'm so amazed by these super deeep strats, wow
Matthew Williams
I don't care about the characters in either arc-v or vrains much. Although if I had to choose, the vrains cast is boring but I'm not offended to the same degree of Yuya's obnoxiousness after a certain point.
And I didn't like action cards either, so it just comes down to the combos in the duels for me. I enjoy good animation especially on first watch, but ultimately that's not enough to make me want to rewatch something by itself. Those vrains duels I listed also had character dialogue I liked more than the vast majority of arc-v duels after standard arc.
Christian Myers
Do the previous series have the characters misplay as much as Vrains characters do?
Hudson Jones
>Its better than Speed Duels and Deus Ex Skills says who
Ian Perry
END YOUR TURN JEAN
Christopher Anderson
Ok, whatever you say, user with no taste
Bentley Brown
As in barrelling head-first into effects without reading cards first? I don't think so
Isaac Jenkins
Hikokubo would know. Or maybe he doesn't and that's why they happen
Leo Campbell
Sorry, Yuya was too much of an active detractor and he was in a a huge number of duels
Luke Perez
Team Ragnarok
Jaxon Sullivan
user is comparing 2 duels to 4, it's not exactly high marks for either series. It's like getting mad when you score a 45 and your friend scores a 49 on a test when you both fucking bombed
Brandon Nelson
Because they're both shit so which one you prefer comes down to personal taste, and Arc-V is all style no substance on almost all fronts aside from colourful visuals. Vrains at least has characters using practical decks and combos.
Aaron Green
Fucking hell that shit was a mess.
Nicholas Gomez
Pendulum Links/Rituals never ever
Christopher Butler
That was not a misplay, that was just Jean wanting to win "fair".
Benjamin Rodriguez
Based and Mangapilled Cringe and Failurnimepilled
Isaiah Bennett
I thought Arc-V's 'colorful' color palettes were balanced okay enough in the first part of the show but it just starts to somehow look both sterile and garish at the same at some point in synchro, when the production seemed to get more unsteady. Its not like Vrains doesn't look ugly or boring at many points either (it was especially bad in the first cour) but overall it doesn't get to that same level of garish as often
Alexander Cruz
>no game >no manga >only 3 OPs >shitload of unprinted cards >probably shortest series ever Is Vrains the most neglected/unloved Yu-Gi-Oh! season?
Caleb Hughes
Yes.
Nolan Price
Vrains is the lifeboat the anime is sitting and waiting on until ygo7 sets sail. Or at least that's the hope. Remember anons, despite all the shitting on vrains, it flopped and sunk so that ygo7 could have a chance to launch off its corpse
Aiden Ward
More like Vrains is the unsung hero buffer they needed to get their shit together after Arc-V
Alexander James
despite Vrains itself, the TCG/OCG are bigger than ever, and many of the Vrains archetypes are seeing consistent play. Regardless of source, cards were VERY successfully shilled in the last 3 years
That's because we only had like 10 decks printed from this show
Evan Cox
I want a Yugioh season without a designated MC
Charles Johnson
It's just me or @Ignisters have a lot of potential? What are the odds of them becoming Meta?
Grayson Gomez
Is yusaku the MC who's dueled the least by proportion in his series (due to other characters dueling)? I honestly can't tell
Brody Martinez
He FEELS like he's dueled the most to me. If simply because he always wins and everyone else tends to lose
Logan Martin
Fire Phoenix is a lot better than Ra but then again, "GOD" cards are so shit they better just not exist at all.
Levi Clark
Why do people suddenly gave up on Season 3 of Vrains when I saw many people hyped for it when it first started? We haven't even get to the main part yet.
because Ai stomping everyone without plot in sight is boring as fuck
Jayden Flores
Why Z-ONE was not Future Yusei, again?
Angel Reed
Because Jesus Fudo can do nothing wrong, even in alternate realities.
Cooper Collins
Plot is starting right after this week.
Noah Gonzalez
Fluffal Link Support when? Also, tried to hunt down all the cards I think I'd need to make a Fluffal Deck and it came out to around $60. is that a decent Price to make a deck? Wanted to get super poly since it's apparently no longer banned, but that shit's like 25 bucks at cheapest and I'm not made of money.
>I wonder how DM would hold up if it was released today? I think it would pretty good albeit the censorship it would receive From a current day thread like vrains threads?Hell no. People would be constantly shitposting about every character but Atem. Yugi, Anzu, and Honda would be roundly mocked as useless. The copious amount of filler would be paraded as an absolute failure. But most importantly, they would be comparing it to anime they were currently watching and have watched so they wouldn't think of it highly.
Jaxon Johnson
the tcg version is better unironically
Ryder Diaz
What would you give for them to stop censoring the Cards and Anime, Yea Forums? Would you watch a completely uncensored Dub?
Nathan Rodriguez
How do they expect us to understand the lore?
Carson Ward
>not understating the lore by the artworks nobody reads in yugioh the card description is just a meme
Easton Perez
Only if it was dubbed by better actors.
Jackson Watson
I and many of my friends do.
Gavin James
Why aren't nakamas and kizunas as prominent in vrains as it is in other shows?
There are obviously more. Dark Knight will be in there too.
Wyatt Cruz
The characters are more similar to normal humans now. Fuck shonencrap.
Joshua Price
Cute, as always.
Bentley Johnson
autism
Adrian Bailey
Nah. Just social isolation from strong use of technology
William Ward
I get the inkling that yugioh may not be the optimal franchise for your time, user
Nathaniel Baker
lain tried to warn us but we wouldn't listen, and now for some reason Yugioh on Yea Forums gets saddled with a variety of perplexing autistposters
Hudson Turner
Who would you personally say is the best written character in the YGO franchise? Who has the most satisfying character arc for you? If it's easier you can list who you think is the best character in each series instead.
I think the bulk of the good character drama is within the original series. The whole thing was supposed to be Kaz's outlook on friendship anyway, and that gets stripped away for much of the sequels for the flashy cards. Yugi himself I enjoyed, but I think it needs DSoD in order to show him becoming completely his own person separate from Atem. Don't remember particularly enjoying Judai, despite everything I found his arc a bit meh. Maybe season 4 was okay. Other GX characters aren't really notable. Would have Yusei but then I remember they dropped his survivor/inherited guilt from the Zero Reverse immediately after the Dark Signers arc. Aki was wasted potential, probably one of the bigger disappointments I've ever had with a Yugioh character. Sawatari is another one cause they forced him to be jobbing clown instead of a serious character that happened to use Yuya's style of entertainment duel. Actually they introduced a lot of characters I liked that just ended up disappearing from the story. Fucking Arc V. Of course Yuya's EGAO could have been a great theme in itself but it was handled so awfully. Zexal I couldn't get through because Yuma seemed like he'd just stay this static moron with no actual principles whatsoever, and after the Arc V crash I was never in the mood for Vrains. All in all Joey's the pick for me, if you count the part where he used to be a complete shitbag to Yugi. Seems an obvious choice, but a good arc is a good arc.
James Long
If there's one thing I'm fairly pleased seeing in Vrains, it's finally seeing characters play multiple copies of the same card in decks.
Aiden Anderson
I want Yugioh IN SPACE next
Michael Cox
>He wants a DSOD sequel A miracle if they'll even bother exploring Yugi's future as a game developer without card games instagram.com/p/Bk4Sl-lA80e/?hl=en
Gavin Rivera
Didn't arcV give us that in the anime?
Josiah Nguyen
they already did that even if technically it wasn't outer space
Whatever comes next in ygo 7 I hope it doesn't pander to the nostalfags at all. Fuck nostalfags.
Hunter Jackson
Arc-V had characters not using their good cards after appearing once or twice (Gon could have won against BB had he used Shutendoji, Shun never used Force Strix again after his 1st Duel with Dennis, instead he went 1st Turn Rise Falcon because SYMBOLISM!!!!11!!!, Sora never used Tiger after Dueling the Jobelisk Force nor Sabre-Tooth despite ignoring Summoning procedures with Sanctuary, and Yuya only used Pendulum Sorcerer as Xyz Material once and Pendulum Summoned Monkeyboard).
Zachary Wilson
The anime will probably stay away from that, but you better bet your ass that everything else will be loaded with nostalgia bait.
Im still hype for season 3 but this latest episode has made me realize how fucking stupid Ai's motivation is. As some user said, it isn't fun when the OP tells you what's exactly gonna happen. >VRAINS may possibly have the best final boss fight since 5D's, if they play their cards correctly. How? Ai Vs Yusaku? if yes I get to differ because they lack the same development of Yami Yugi/Yugi and Yuma/Astral
Feels weird that Konami haven't retrained Osiris/Slifer or Obelisk yet.
Jason Gomez
After ARC-V gave us the most hetero love story ever told in ygo I said I wouldn't mind if nothing romantic happened in VRAINS. I guess Yoshida read my comment.
Kaiba never lost his passionate heart. He's also consistently absurd. When Yuzu Hiiragi stops a gun by throwing a card at its hammer, then we can make some sort of "Not all jobbers!" argument
Literally be a copy of DM, GX, 5Ds, Zexal or the first half of ARC-V and I'll be happy. VRAINS is the one and only time i have genuinely disliked a season
>Protagonist Judai 2.0 >Main Girl Useful >Rival Reiji 2.0 >Cast Based on real players >Spirit, Ai, Alien or whatever the new companion will be. No minions >Serious tone, silly tone or for it to gradually chance as the show goes on. Silly at the start, serious by the end. >Story of epic proportions like Arc-V or something more safe like Vrains or maybe similar to Zexal, DM, 5D's or GX. Epic
I also hope they create new cards that have something to do with spacing and positioning like VRAINS and that they use all types of cards and competitive decks.
>Yuya Pls no, Yuya was a crybaby, obbsseibe guy with self-esteem issues and retarded looking cards. Not to mention, his motto was painful. Don't try to compared him with Judai
This, but I want the story to do something related to Greek Mythology. They already did Egyptian, Norse and Maya(?), Greek is one of the major ones left.
Justin Ross
>Greek-themed Series >Duelists wear Greek constellation inspired armor and play themselves as monster cards
Have they done Hindu mythology in a YGO anime yet?
Dominic Wood
Some cards here and there, no god cards as far as I know. Same as greek mythology
Daniel Gutierrez
VRAINS has parts of buddhist mythology.
Robert Mitchell
None at all I think. Greek is popular so there's already slight references here and there.
Juan Hernandez
Just in general calling Kaiba a jobber isn't quite right. Like yes he technically is a jobber, but hes also the most popular character in the franchise because people love an underdog, but hes also not an underdog because hes a genius billionaire with every conceivable advantage. Its complicated.
What's even worth watching after 5D's? I've very sparsely lurked these threads for years, and I thought people hated ZEXAL and loved Arc-V before it went to shit. Now it's the other way around?
Daniel Parker
A lot of anime fans and groups didn't like the tonal shift that zexal brought. Of course it's been 8 years now so a lot of people have let it go or more have arrived with different opinions.
Eli Thompson
People aren't a hivemind, try out the shows yourself and form your own opinion.
Logan Fisher
Zeus and Poseidon already have random incarnations in yugioh. Kinda.
Arc V is closest to 5Ds in terms of the strong start and shit ending. Except the highs and lows are pretty amplified. At the very least Arc V's entire middle arc is basically 5Ds.
Jace Flores
Try Zexal until episode 10 and see if it makes you a Sharkfag. Keep in mind that the early episodes introducing Yuma's lame friends are not indicative of the rest of the show.
Zexal's definitely worth a watch. The first arc of Arc-V is worth it I guess, but the steep drop in quality for the remainder of the series is VERY sharp. Vrains is the production team picking the pieces after the debacle that was Arc-V's latter parts, but it's certainly not terrible. Not great by any stretch either, but it has its moments
So I just started playing yugioh again and I haven't watched VRAINS yet. Tell me more about this card please
Carson Evans
But tournament arcs actually work in YGO because it's a game meant to be played in a tournament format
Asher Diaz
They could always dump of lot of them into a collectors pack?
Jonathan Rogers
Every time a monster that it points to is sent to the GY (not once per turn, or by a specific type of destruction), you can special summon a monster from your hand. It's just too broken, and it ends up letting you make insane boards from turn one, since Link Summoning sends the material to the GY to begin with.
Landon James
This card enabled a ton of loops and made link climbing incredibly easy.
We had formats where you would be "u-locked" using both extra deck zones preventing you from using them with a negate on board. and you couldn't Target, Destroy by card effects or destroy by battle their board. ( I got my regional top with Firewall)
The next combo was the same thing but they ripped 4 cards from your hand so you start off with 2 cards.
so Topologic Gumblar and Firewall were both banned.
Cooper Taylor
Zexal start weak finish strong, use guide to skip useless filler duels
Zachary Miller
>game meant to be played in a tournament format I've never felt that way. In the anime it's just another form of shonen combat. Tournaments make matchups too linear and plain.
Jack Young
Future pack filler or interesting anime only monsters?
It’s ok I guess. They their best with the cards they were dealt post-Arc V. Animation quality’s pretty poor for series standards but it has its moments. Same for the plot, characters and duels. The one cool thing I guess is that most to all characters play decks and strategies that would for the most part, actually work in the real life TCG/OCG. Vrains has the least amount of anime bullshit plays and situational cards across all YGO series so far (though not entirely free from it either).
Jose Sanders
>literally the summon chant made into a card
Jaxson Jones
what the actual fuck??? how can they make the ace this fucking op? they had ban it, so... what the fuck again
Michael Garcia
Link Fusion. Fusion summon 1 fusion monster using monsters on the field that a link monter you control points to.
Caleb Allen
His prison deck was probably more consistent, kek
Joseph Allen
When a "Shooting Star Dragon" you control is destroyed by battle, you can activate this card to negate the Battle Damage. Then, Special Summon 1 "Stardust Dragon" from your Extra Deck by removing from play the appropriate Synchro Material Monsters from your Graveyard. (This Special Summon is treated as a Synchro Summon.) The "Stardust Dragon" Special Summoned by this effect gains ATK equal to the combined ATK of all Dragon-Type Synchro Monsters in your Graveyard. By returning 1 Synchro Monster from your Graveyard to the Extra Deck, select 1 monster your opponent controls and force it to attack. During the End Phase, remove from play this card and the "Stardust Dragon" Special Summoned by this effect. Here's Converging Wishes' original anime effect.
They forgot to edit in the good ol’ OPT clause before sending to print
Justin Baker
Funny thing is that the effect is barely used (just once, I think) in the anime. So either not enough playtesting or they never thought players would be this degenerate with it.
Ian Long
No, I just downloaded ygopro and saw blue cards, started to look around since I already expected new cards and a new anime, but didn't have a clue.
Pretty sure it's either the former or they enjoy that kind of gameplay. There's an entire decade and a half of degenerate competition for them to draw on. When was the last format you played?
Well at least he tries to fill the void with Blue Eyes White Dragon themed fighter jets and ill conceived notions of sending cards into space to give them SPACE POWERS
Ehh i would put Yusaku in top 5 or top 4. His development happened from one episode to another. Rushed as hell just for season 3 to happen. Is a clear sign of bad writing not surprising at all
Would it have been interesting if the backs of cards changed to match every duelist because of virtual reality customization? I understand why something like that can't happen of course.
Quite a bit of the plot hinges on the characters playing naturally rare cards in vrains. All of the cyberse cards were created by ignis or ignis enabled skills. They can't be bought.
>the next yugioh series is AGAIN an anniversery series NONONOONONO pls no more anniversery shit. Arc-V, Zi-O, all of this can just go straight into the garbage bin.
>"The history of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime series will change." Probably just means it plays in DM world but they retconned the previous series.
Josiah Perez
Thats only because his initial character is literally a stone with a face scribbled on it.
Jack Thomas
Zexal starts weak but only climbs in quality with maybe a spotty episode here and there. I enjoyed the concept of a protag who starts off pretty bad at the game and gets really good by the end. There is one gimmick that takes "Heart of the Cards" to the next level of bullshit, but if you don't mind it, you should be good for one of the strongest finales across every series.
Those are some big assumptions to make from "The history of the Yu-Gi-Oh! anime series will change." They change continuities all the time. If they want to establish a new world or more expansive timeline they easily could. Maybe it can be more inclusive of side animations or side storylines.
Why would based Kaz be sick of the work that made him a millionaire? He profits so much off of Yu-Gi-Oh he doesn't have to create another manga.
Nathan Russell
And she's nobody to him in the anime. Yuya and Yuyafags absolutely BTFO
Lincoln Parker
Is the GX manga worth reading? I've seen that it's basically something else entirely, with everyone using different decks from the anime, and Judai not even using Neos.
Anthony Cruz
Kill it with fire.
Ethan Ramirez
>And she's nobody to him in the anime. Ah i see you are still mad user. Aren't you glad Yuya and Yuzu are mother and son in the Manga tho? We all win in the end
>I''m happy this ship is finally fucking dead. When? people still ship them, fanart is still being made and even Konami ships them. You should be happy instead of triggered
Thats what I mean,I want him to have more involvment in the production of anime or even write a story because every following degrading arc sucks my kuribohs.I know he technically still enjoys illustrating for the franchise,heck I'm hyped for the TCG Gold Sarcophagus Tin which will have the god cards with new art by kazuki.I just wish for the anime to be more than a shallow TCG promotion.
