All things considered, are 7 quirks REALLY that bad?

Yes

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oh shit... we're in for it guys...

>O MY RAYLEIGH FLASHBACK

>new villains show up and kick ichigo's ass
>he asspulls a power up to beat them
>repeat
VS
>deku is already so strong that all his friends are glorified cheerleaders and there are no unbeatable villains
>he asspulls 7 power ups for no reason
Bleach is a poorly written generic battle shonen, but at least it didn't completely break the narrative overnight.

Ichigo has SO many pools to draw power from, and the most he manages to do is the same old basic ass getsuga tensho.
Like, why bother? The Quincy aspect isn’t used at all, the Hollow hasn’t been used properly in ages, and Ichigo still hasn’t shown mastery as a Shinigami. It’s still a mystery if his bankai is even complete yet.

You don't understand how powers work on bleach

>P-please don't bully! R-remember how we made fun of other trash mangas together? L-let's go back to that!

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>Eren
>Not even worse than Ichigo and Deku

As hilarious and stupid as it could get with the mid battle powerlevel spikes, "H-he stopped the bleeding!" and bouts of high speed regeneration, it at least served some story purposes.

A human that's only had powers for like what, half a year, and is just learning to use a sword is beating centuries old magic samurai, that aren't exactly skimping on the training? Past that, it fit into how he could beat Aizen in the first place post hybridization since if he was just doing the exact same thing he should still be behind. And then it actually set up what the whole Soul King deal was, plus made it clear that they were willing to put Ichigo on ice to force him to fill in for the current one, if need be.

7 quirks is the author realizing his series is boring as fuck and has no potential.

7 quirks is one of the highlights of BNHA. It was only target of shitposts because of Yea Forumstards.

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Ichigo has four sources of power, the other are just combinaisons. And now, with 7 Quirks, Deku can do so much more...

He also probably has his own Quirk he didn't have as a child (maybe stolen by the doctor and he could get it back ?), so let's make that 8. It could even be worse, Horikoshi could take the One for All idea even way farther, and take a "All your power combined" power of friendship approach to things...

>7 quirks is one of the highlights of BNHA
BNHA is that bad?

/thread

Based

No, ofa isn't two quirks, it's specified it's the fusion of two different quirks, the baton pass-like quirk of the first user and the stockpiling quirk afo bestowed him with. Considering no one ever mentioned the previous users quirks coming with the package (and with good reason, since apparently none of them experienced that effect apart from Midoriya) I'd say it's quite the convoluted power up.
It is not a complete asspull because it does make sense that it would pass on all quirks but since there is no concrete foreshadowing nor precedents in universe, I label it as bad writing.
Smaller detail retcons can be overlooked, but this 7 quirks is too much of an important matter.

Ichigo is literally a stereotype of Mary Sues

>shonen protag pulls powerup(s) out of his ass or flashback
It comes with the genre. Even the best ones suffer from it, like FMA or HxH.

Given that Horikoshi was influenced by Bleach. Yes.

This was all a consequence.

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>preluded to constantly
like how the previous user never actually used those extra quirks?

Anyone talking shit about Bleach is a level 1 reader or lower.

They were both shit in they're own way.
Kubo didn't plan ahead enough and he gave Ichigo a boring power and no way to get anything else without bullshit.
Horikoshi was retarded and gave Deku the most boring power in shonen manga so he just gave himself an excuse to asspull any new power he wants at any points he needs.

I really think it depents on how it is used. If its used like most people fear as convenient way out of a pinch its utterly shit. But right now its only an extension of his quirk which even puts him back to square one

You don't know what a mary sue is

7 Quirks are absolutely atrocious, and not just because they are an asspull but because:

Deku has only mastered superstrength at 20% 240 chapters into the manga. And now he has to master superstrength and 5 other powers. How long will this manga be? Even with multiple timeskips, the thing would have to be longer than One Piece. But at least One Piece isn't trapped in a fucking school.

All Might already beat One for All twice with just superstrength. And Deku should be even stronger. Why does Deku need more powers? Hell, he should already be stronger than most Top 10 pro heroes. Judging from his feats.

The main antagonists are boring as fuck and they all have already been beaten multiple times. The manga is at a state where Hori has to hand out power ups to the villains so there is any tension.

Deku 's character arc was completely done in Kamino. He hasn't grown at all since then. He even regressed once so we could see him go through the same thing again. We don't really need to stick to Deku MORE than we already did.

That diagram doesn't specify the different powers of Ichigo though, but all of the different forms he had throughout the story.
In the end he had a mix of all powers existing in his universe, namely Shinigami, Quincy and hollow. Fullbring doesn't really count because it's a mix of human/hollow. That kind of set up, with the hero having all of the abilities of a limited set of powers, is quite common in fiction, like the mistborn series of Brandon Sanderson or the Avatar cartoon.
Mha instead has a varied kind of power system, with every character supposedly carrying one unique ability somewhat related to their personality, similar to OP devil fruits. The premise in MHA had afo, being the big bad, have a quirk that stole that of others. This again is a common trope usually associated with the antagonist, like the killer from the Heroes tv series or blackbeard from OP. The idea would be for the hero to defeat the seemingly invincible bad guy who takes/does all for/by himself thanks to his effort or through teamwork. Abruptly having the MC obtain multiple abilities this far in the game is stupid.

Lol. Almost all HeroAca fights are asspulls. Even in the current arc:

Toga just reveals a power she had never used before.
Twice unlocks his mental block because a friend of his is almost killed. But another friend of his was killed in the Yakuza arc.
Shiggy now can make his Decay contagiois, is able to Decay without his five fingers, and can just stick to the ground without explanation while much heavier objects around him are sent flying by the villain's attacks.

Yes, because it killed foreshadowed momentum on Deku actually learning how to fight instead of just trying to bruteforce everything.

Don't forget "He doesn't waste any movements!"

>Twice unlocks his mental block because a friend of his is almost killed.
That's not why he unlocks his mental block, speedreader.

>Twice unlocks his mental block because a friend of his is almost killed.
What? No, he overcame his trauma because his enemy broke his arms.

Not really but it's terribly slow going.

Your brain is rotting use it sometimes.
>protag
>FMA
Did i miss something?

>hard work and the power of friendship beats natural talent in the end
>hero is actually born with super overpowered traits that just get unlocked later
the absolute state of shounenshit

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badshonenshit*

why are you framing this like bleach is still on-going?

>spiderman is strong because he works hard
hm okay retard

>are 7 quirks REALLY that bad?
Yeah
Just like how something being good before doesn't make something good now bad, something being bad before doesn't make something bad now better

>hard work and the power of friendship beats natural talent in the end
That was never a theme in bleach

>Why does Deku need more powers?
Because other characters would have to do things and we can't have that

You forgot the part where he still got BTFO despite all that

>Why does Deku need more powers?
Well, we went from punching to kicking. We've cleared the bases that the author can figure out to pull from, so abandon ship for a new concept.

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It was foreshadowed a bit during the tournament arc when Deku saw the past OfA users, but most of all, it wasn't surprising at all. Who didn't guess Deku would have more quirks ?

Come on

>It was foreshadowed a bit during the tournament arc when Deku saw the past OfA users
But that was also an asspull

This ^

The whole Plus Ultra gimmick is just embracing this trope.

I thought the author got it seeing how he delivered pretty well in all of All Might's fights, because he nailed the emotional weight of the scene, along the idea of heroism. It didn't make sense, and that was the point.

It should have remained All Might special power, and maybe Deku to some extent (still think he should have sicked to the "He's analytical" idea, even if the plan really never were that smart...), but he just applied it to every character, even the villains...

And it doesn't fucking work. Asspulls can't be your main source of character development.

I can't fucking believe it's still on year 1.

I'm still waiting for him to make another big manga

>We know he's not above asspulls, and it's low haning fruit, so it's okay!

All things considered the rainbow Ichigo is actually built up quit well
>Starts by getting soul reaper powers
>Loses them and to get them back literally goes through hollowfication, so logically it makes sense 100 chapters later when it is revealed he has hollow powers
>His dad and quincies know eachother, more over they are shown referring to their wives
> Late we get definitive evidence Ichigo's mom in a quincy so it follows he has quincy powers

All of ichigos powers are shown through slow progression of plot but with MHA it goes from
>He sees ghost
>Mentor says everyone sees ghost and it isn't important
>Actually it is important and you UNLIKE EVERY OTHER USER OF THIS POWER, have all the powers of people that used it.

Didnt Allmight say he never saw the ghosts?

Pretty sure he did and Granps mentioned Nana mentioning something similar, thats where we even got the name Vignettes

There is nothing wrong with just strength and speed. It's very straightforward and works fine. Just look at All Might and OPM This 7 thing feels so needless. I guess he's trying to pad that shit out but they already are with this whole villain arc thing..

To this day I still don't understand the problem, I haven't read bhna more than some chapters, but isn't his ability the power to combine abilities from all previous users? Why is everyone treating this like an asspull?

>What's important is always being in control of THE HEART

Because it's quite literally an asspull.

The difference is that Ichigo needs these extra powers because he's fighting people who can match and exceed them. Ichigo current max power generally isn't on a completely different tier than his current opponent.
Deku doesn't need the extra powers because nobody can match OfA. We already know that OfA is stronger than any enemy power can be. All this means is that the few limits of OfA can be avoided instead of worked around.

>his power from the very beginning is the power to combine the power of all previous owners
How is it an asspull that he has the power of all previous owners? I understand people calling him a mary sue, but I feel like people have been mistaking one for another.

What makes the difference between a reveal and an asspull

Not him, but I would say the timing. If a character only reveals something at the time it needs it, then it's an asspull.

It's thematically wrong. Midoriya's theme is hard work, that's why he goes with the name Deku, the hero who never gives up.
Being granted a superpower that he has to work hard to master goes well with the theme and is established since the very beginning. Getting other powers way down the line and 7 to boot, that completely disregard his character on a meta level. I universe it kinda makes sense, the explanation can pass but the character's arc suffers from it.

I'm saying his new ability, which is a whip/lasso, burst from his body like he shot it out of his ass. Literally an asspull.

But in terms of story, if you haven't read it, felt like it was never used as a plot point before until all of a sudden the MC gets to be the double chosen one. One could argue it was semi-ambiguous what "stockpiling" meant but in the case of the only example really shown throughout the series, All Might, it meant speed/strength and he never once brought out someone else's quirk.

Okay, here's your (You). Go ahead, explain.

Deku already has the most OP quirk.

1 million hours in MS paint

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People say Ichigo being a Quincy came out of nowhere, but I think that was built up pretty well and early on.
Ichigo and Uryuu both being able to see and interact with spirits, despite Uryuu not being a Shinigami should've been notable as evidence. They were obviously related in some form from the start.

Some of the designs in Ichigo's room like his bedsheets.

Ichigo drops a bombshell during Soul Society when he describes GetsugaTenshou to Byakuya and it's described the same way Uryuu describes a Quincy arrow.

"I AM Zangetsu!"

Uryuu reveals that Quincies don't only use arrows, but can also use swords and manipulate reishi to perform attacks as well.

Isshin and Ryuuken like you mentioned.

The blue fire in Hueco Mundo right before the reveal.

The only thing Boku no Hero had going for it was that it was so painfully obvious that this was coming

I really haven't read much of it, I was drawn in long ago by a giant ass thinking it was ecchi stuff and then I quit it after a couple chapters.
I did a quick search, and what is baffling to me is that either the author really did a good job at making everyone think that power did something else, or everyone is retarded since it sounded pretty obvious what the character meant by stockpiling powers, especially when powers were the focus of the manga, and the villain with the opposite power can use multiple powers too.

>the real super powers were the powers we made along the way

I guess we discovered the limit of the typical shonen reader. Something more than a hundred chapters, and they forget what was written. And it wasn't even implicit, the guy described what the power did, and another with a very similar power showed everyone what it was capable of, yet here we are.

>isn't his power something completely different from what it was said to be at the start? Why is this an asspull?

People just interpret things a certain way and think their way is the only acceptable interpretation. Like with the color changing dress meme or the whole [glass him] meme.

I think what throws people off is how the origin of One For All was described. It's described as stockpiling 'power'. Keyword here is power, not quirks. The wording makes it seems like One For All is super strength. It's passed down to the next user, and that person can hone the super strength to be even more powerful then pass it down again. Basically, stockpiling physical strength or 'power'. Based only on these panels you could absolutely interpret it this way.

My theory is that this is exactly how the author intended One For All to function at the start. But he stealthily retconned it to mean quirks because he wanted to give Deku an avenue to power up in the future.

You could say this is a stupid interpretation and reee all you want about how it was clearly meant to be stockpiling quirks all along. But you can't deny that the use of the word 'power' instead of quirk makes the original description of One For All somewhat vague and debatable. If someone calls it out for being an asspull, then it's a valid argument because the original wording made it seem like One For All stockpiled physical strength, not quirks.

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Ichigo:
>4-way hybrid
>only 2 of them ever really manifest in a meaningful way (Shinigami and Hollow)
Deku:
>7 quirks
>he'll unlock all of them by the end, no doubt

What I hate most about this is that I know Deku will use his 7 quirks in a more original and interesting way than AFO did with his dozen of quirk and tens of time the experience

>Hori
>original and interesting use of powers

This. 7 quirks isn't an asspull, but it's still retarded.

That, and almight only had access to physical power, so that's what he must be talking about from his frame of mind, and even in the story it's explained that this is new, not just it being previously underutilized

>All for One can combine quirks and has been expressed multiple times how it was the opposite quirk
>All Might never said it was just physical prowess, and he didn't use the word quirk because it pass MORE than just quirks it also passes down the physical prowess too
It was not an asspull. And the clues aren't even that ambiguous. We knew that he could do more than just physical strength when he snapped out of the hypnosis in the tournament.

Any quirk can combine. It retroactively gained those other powers when it advanced. Almight straight up didn't know it would give other powers. Asspulling once doesn't condone more asspulling

>Any quirk can combine
Fucking esl, "can combine quirks" and "combinable quirk" are not the same thing.

Shinsou being trounced by the 7 quirks asspull killed my interest in this series. The guy lost twice for convenient plot reasons, this is bullshit.

Yes, Luffy would think about his haki teaching when fighting an experienced pirate. If he just started dodging punches for no reason it would be bad writing.

The point being it's the result of just amassing quirks with in AFO and you're fucking reaching. We were given an arbitrary reason for it functioning different now than it did for AM, it's an asspull

Misunderstood genius.

You're not worthy.

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>shitty powerup equals shitty character

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Kubo was ahead of his time. RIP Bleach.

>If only I could have unlocked that last quirk... Now I'm going to be burnt alive... Wait, these flames aren't hurting me! I have flame immunity!
>I've been waiting for a moment to use these... See if you can win against my awakened quirks!
>One for All doesn't just stockpile the powers of the previous users! Everyone who's ever believed in a user of One for All has lent me their power! Behold, all of the quirks of my friends at once, twenty fold!
>Finally, I'll show you what I've learned along my journey. All of my quirks combined, Plus Ultra Mode!
>These quirks have shown me the way, like guideposts in the dark! I've found the power within myself! The greatest quirk of all... My own quirk!
All of these are foreshadowed by the way

Funny you post Eren out of all people
he's basically deku at this point hoarding titan powers

7 quirks aren't all that bad, mostly because they were foreshadowed significantly. It still could have been done better, but that applies to all of BnHA.

The more annoying thing is that the series paints Deku as an underdog.

Hey, at least he earned them by eating his opponents.

>We were given an arbitrary reason
There literally wasn't. Show me where it explcitly says that it doesn't pass quirks. Actually, just show anywhere that says that it only passes physical strenght. You headcanon'd that only because 1 of the many users of One for All couldn't use it to its fullest potential, and now that you are shown that your headcanon is wrong, suddenly it's the author's fault.

Deku is an underdog?

>hard work and the power of friendship beats natural talent in the end
Can somebody recommend me a good shounen manga where this actually happens? For once in my life I would like to read something where the hero's abilities are mediocre at best, but works hard and accomplishes a lot.

None of this will of d pirate king kyuubi hokage ancestor god quincy shinigami hollow nonsense that gets thrown into the story 200 chapters in.

He was with the whole "poor little fella with no superpowers wants to be a superhero" thing
And then the power fantasy kicked in

No, whoever thought Deku wouldn't get power ups was delusional. Just amping up the percentage of OFA and smashing like a retard was getting boring quickly. People wanted more variety to the fights and now they are gonna give it to them.

>You headcanoned that because 200 chapters of its use and in universe, character explained interpretation told you it was that way and then changed it with the description of "it's just growing stronger bro"
>Nana just didn't have time to tell him about the abilities lol
The defense of this is absolutely hilarious

It would have been significantly better if Deku somehow earned the power ups, instead of being gifted the power ups. Yeah, I get that he's going to have to train to learn to use them and whatnot, but it still feels like shit.

Kubo seriously need to start a new manga.

>Getting other powers way down the line and 7 to boot, that completely disregard his character on a meta level.
How? He still has to work hard to master those powers. Why are you acting as if its separate things entirely when these powers are apart of OfA?

>7

Here's how "bad" that plot twist was. Its been 6 months and I have not seen one valid argument against it and it outed a plethora of stupid people reading this manga, even though it was a popular theory ON HERE for years, as being complete fucking retards.

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>Nana just didn't have time to tell him about the abilities lol
Speedreader

>anything foreshadowed 200 chapters ago is asspulling
The state of the shonentards. I can't wait when he becomes the Top Hero, and you complain about asspulled that was even though he explicitly says that on the first chapter.

>Just show me anywhere that says it only passes physical strength
Every description we've ever gotten until bald chan has been from someone who had no idea the quirks hitched a ride. That's over 200 chapters of continuity, and at least two prior users assuming it always worked this way and chain of information just broke, with the current situation being "it just finally got strong enough"

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>Midoriya's theme is hard work
Wrong. His theme is trying to live up to a legacy being given to him, his hardwork is what gave him OfA to begin with but how he's able to master it and become a hero is entirely a different beast altogether.

>Being granted a superpower that he has to work hard to master goes well with the theme and is established since the very beginning. Getting other powers way down the line and 7 to boot, that completely disregard his character on a meta level.
This doesn't make any fucking sense. Nothing has changed since Deku still has to master those powers, it doesn't make it easier for him in fact it'll make it even harder for him given how his first usage of Black Whip went out of control.

>Every description we've ever gotten until bald chan has been from someone who had no idea the quirks hitched a ride.
Literally from the very chapter AM explained the origins of OfA. I guess this is what made people so butthurt.

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>She died and GT had to train him, so that means she didn't have aaaaaany time to list off a few powers even though she was fully intending for him to be the successor
Don't even

>Kachan was listening, sugoi
All Might a shit.

>Prior link is All Might saying that he straight up didn't know
>But I can interpret this image to pretend that he did!
Wew lad

So where did he say it passes down strength dumbass? Also Nana had the same thing happen to her.

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You just keep digging yourself deeper, speedreader

>Animeonly

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More like
>I can ignore 200 chapters of continuity so I can keep devouring this shit and pretend it's not an asspull

Also, I remember AfO combining quirks on his own. Doesn't that also set up the notion that OfA could combine quirks?

>Page is from chapter 59 over 100 chapters before the revelation
>Page you posted is from 217

You really are a fucking idiot. Now tell me where did All Might say that only raw strength was transferred.

>its an asspull even though it was established since the beginning
Everytime.

Yes because we can only go to power level bullshit now. If Deku is supposed to be a number one pillar hero then sure he has to be OP but unless Shigaraki gets 7 quirks from each hand or some shit what even is the point? Absolutely nothing was wrong with just speed and strength. Punching people's shit in like All Might always did was great as it was.

Look, no one cares that you can keep asking for the words "physical strength" to appear in front of you as a pathetic defense. You have spelled out for you in plain english that Toshinori, who we got all of our descriptions from, meant power but never thought quirks were a part of that.

So Deku can receive the combine financial and political power of the previous users for all I care. 100% though, you cannot deny that every previous character description of it never voluntarily intended the other quirks to be a part of it.

And also AfO being responsible for the creation of OfA. But nah it only transfers strength.

So you have your own interpretation of something 59, and something that contradicts that interpretation spelled out for you on 217

Maybe you could piece together that you're wrong, but it's pretty easy to see that you're desperate

Boku no fags really are pathetic

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I think it would be cool if Deku started to lose his mind from the extra quirks each time they surface, so it's a good excuse to somehow pass them along to another character

>Look, no one cares that you can keep asking for the words "physical strength" to appear in front of you as a pathetic defense.
So he never did say physical strength is what you're saying.

>You have spelled out for you in plain english that Toshinori, who we got all of our descriptions from, meant power but never thought quirks were a part of that.
Then what the fuck is power suppose to mean then you stupid bitch? Its not physical strength according to you.

>100% though, you cannot deny that every previous character description of it never voluntarily intended the other quirks to be a part of it.
Of course I can because you're arguing semantics which is worthless. OfA stores and transfers power this is as retarded as complaining that Twice's quirk describtion doesn't state that he can also have his double use the quirks of the person in question or that Toga's quirk doesn't say she can use the quirks of the people she transformed into.

Yes and no.
I mean, in the end Ichigo's powers meant shit since he didn't even finished the final boss.

>your own interpretation of something 59
>something that is literally written on the fucking page is his own interpretation

Okay

>and something that contradicts that interpretation spelled out for you on 217
Except nothing in that page contradicts anything. Try again dumbfuck

>If Deku is supposed to be a number one pillar hero then sure he has to be OP but unless Shigaraki gets 7 quirks from each hand or some shit what even is the point?
DO people just seem to forget that Shiggy's quirk can destroy you in one hit or did chapter 213 make everyone incredibly fucking stupid?

Toshinori's definition of power did not involve quirks, and that's all I have to prove. Chapter 217, page 3 he's saying he never knew that One for All took on the other quirks. Therefore every explanation he's giving omits the concept of OfA giving those quirks. So it's 200 chapters of continuity where it didn't have that functionality.

I mean, if you're against calling it an asspull, egregious retcon works better.

Same with Bakugou. How is he supposed to keep up? Forever second like Vegeta now.

Power was implied to be the collective (physical) strenght of hundreds into one person.
Haha just kidding, you're the avatar now.

>The difference is that Ichigo needs these extra powers
No he didn't. The bulk of those powers were absolutely worthless and whats worse is that he didn't even utilize it in any interesting way.

>Deku doesn't need the extra powers because nobody can match OfA
Yeah that's why he got beat but Todoroki and Bakugou right?

>Of all the things to being up
>Wan Piss
Was pic related meant to mock yourself? Because it's working.

The level of mental gymnastics you have to use to rectify this has got to be out of this world. Go ahead, try.

>Toshinori's definition of power did not involve quirks, and that's all I have to prove.
You didn't prove anything. Nothing Toshinori said was wrong and the function of OfA didn't fucking change because everything is in line of what we know. We've know since the beginning that AM didn't get the same experiences as Deku got like Deku seeing the previous users so you abiding by his word as absolute even though it was proven shakey as best as an argment makes you look like a fucking dumbass.

>mental gymnastics
>Where did AM say that OfA stores physical strength
>Durr
>What did he mean by power
>Hurr
>Here's a age showing how retarded you are
>MENTAL GYMNASTICS

Its been a great 6 months making fun of you idiots

>Power was implied to be the collective (physical) strenght of hundreds into one person.
Where?

>Nothing Toshinori said was wrong
Toshinori was never saying that One for All had the other quirks, because as he states he never knew until now. But now it does have those quirks, so that is wrong. And that's not the beginning, and was an asspull in and of itself. The pretense that one asspull makes another fine is ridiculous

>Toshinori's definition of power did not involve quirks, and that's all I have to prove
But you didn't prove that. In fact he himself didn't know the specifications of power just that the it granted enhanced physical abilities with each new users. Why would he know that OfA passes quirks to begin with when he's been in the dark about most things with OfA until recently?

Everything always depends on how it is used. People also feared that Deku would become a gary-stu when he got the OfA, but that never happened. And considering that MHA is more a school manga than a battle manga, which means that the learning process is what matters, I find it unlikely that the story will become a powerlevel-fest.

Great that you bring up Shiggy since this thread is about potential asspulls. And even if he gets strong enough to disintegrate at a distance like the new chapters were maybe hinting just the strength portion of OfA can blast back at a range let alone 7 other quirks' utilities. It just makes no sense to tack all this other shit on when OfA is supposed to be the pinnacle already unless we're trying to go even further beyond in terms of power levels.

What the fuck was Ichigo's new bankai ability?

>This is about the quirks being an asspull
>Where does Toshinori say OfA stores quirks?
>In every explanation he ever gaves, since on chapter 217 page 3 he's saying he never knew, so that was never what he was asserting
You still haven't pulled off the flip

>But now it does have those quirks, so that is wrong. And that's not the beginning, and was an asspull in and of itself. The pretense that one asspull makes another fine is ridiculous
What the fuck are you talking about? He never knew about OfA passing down quirks but he never said it passed down physical strength that s something YOU failed to prove. Also a character not mowing something does not make it an asspull.
>And even if he gets strong enough to disintegrate at a distance like the new chapters were maybe hinting just the strength portion of OfA can blast back at a range let alone 7 other quirks' utilities.
Now you;re just talking out your ass.

Reminder in 200 chapters Bleach was at Hueco Mundo, Naruto was at Sasuke retrieval, One Piece was at Alabasta.
Literally nothing happens in MHA.

>You didn't prove that!
He literally says he never knew, and that Nana had to have not known as well, at the very least. Ergo, he was including it in his descriptions of the power.

>No he didn't. The bulk of those powers were absolutely worthless and whats worse is that he didn't even utilize it in any interesting way.
Well, he actually needed those upgrades, but only because he always loses whatever the power he was using at the time.
The only good thing about Ichigo's upgrades was that they didn't add anything new into the fray except enough power to marginally beat the current arc villain.

>This is about the quirks being an asspull
Its not an asspull since the function All Might said still works the only thing he didn't know was that it passed down quirks. You're saying its an asspull because AM didn't know?

Why do I have to prove physical strength? That's your benchmark. It's clearly something that the users get, but all I have to prove is that Toshinori's descriptions were never about the other users' quirks, and I have. Ch 217, pg 3

It's an asspull because it's a completely new function tacked on after 200 chapters, and people are using semantics with the word "power" to validate it, yet the one person saying it didn't intend it to mean "quirks"

>and that Nana had to have not known as well, at the very least
Which is proven wrong based on this. also this

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Good job OP, you successfully summoned him!

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What is an air pressure punch that is prevalent in tons of shonen? You realize Deku has shot air with his fingers many times?

>It's an asspull because it's a completely new function tacked on after 200 chapters
Its not a new function though because it goes along with this you lose again.

fpbp

The same as the old one

That literally reveals nothing about what Nana knew or didn't know

>It's an asspull because it's a completely new function tacked on after 200 chapters
How is it a new function?
>OfA was stated to store and transfer power
How does this revelation change anything?
>
>and people are using semantics with the word "power" to validate it, yet the one person saying it didn't intend it to mean "quirks"
You're the dumbfuck arguing semantics because we ask you to do a simple thing and find where he says physical strength which you failed to do and when we ask what he meant by power you couldn't do that as well

>if it goes along with a person's description that I'm making wild leaps of logic in, particularly when 150 chapters later he's proving that that's not what he meant
Let's go around again!

>That literally reveals nothing
>Nana had the same dream that Deku had
>literally reveals nothing

You lose again

>The only good thing about Ichigo's upgrades was that they didn't add anything new into the fray except enough power to marginally beat the current arc villain.
So they were worthless.

>Why do I have to prove physical strength? That's your benchmark
Worng that;s your benchmark. In order to prove that this is a retcon you actually have to show where All Might said OfA stored physical strength

>but all I have to prove is that Toshinori's descriptions were never about the other users' quirks,
Exactly BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW. That doesn't prove anything dipshit because we've know All Might has been in teh dark about OfA since the sports festival where he blantanty lied to Deku.

You don't know anything about complicated

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>How is it a new function
Gee, how is doing new, unrelated things a new function?
>we ask you to do a simple thing and find where he says physical strength
But that has nothing to do with this. I've proven that Toshinori never meant it stockpiled quirks. I win

You can stop anytime now.
>person's description
>its literally on the fucking page in the fucking manga
So where did All Might say OfA stores physical strength user?

Toshinori knew about the dream as well. It doesn't mean anything about them knowing about the powers

>beats the enemy
>worthless
Retard

Stop what? Being right?

>new, unrelated things
>Deku has been using the power of the previous users since the 3rd chapter of the manga
>This is a new thing according to this retard
Six months of this shit....
>But that has nothing to do with this
It has everything to do with it because you can't prove he retconned it.
>I win
Actually you didn't because didn't prove that its physical strength is what he meant. And we're still waiting.

Ichigo has always been special and was nurtured by both villains and neutrals for said purposes fggt.

The image explains everything neatly and it doesn't have redundant info

>Beats enemy with power
>new enemy arrives who is immune to this power that defeated previous enemy
>not worthless
Retard

>chapter of continuity
The fuck do you mean by that? Naruto wasn't a hokage for like a thousand chapters, do you also think him becoming a hokage was an asspull? Even though he said he wanted to be one since the beginning?

>Toshinori knew about the dream as well
No he didn't.
You haven't been right for six months.

No, I don't. You'd like that because you can hide behind semantics, but your entire defense rests on someone who is admitting he never meant power = quirk somehow meaning the opposite.
>BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW
Yes. Glad you can agree
So all of the "These are All Might's explanations and he said power and power can mean quirk XD" posts are proven wrong. So it's a completely additional functionality that the previous 2 users at the very least had no concept of, and goes against the exact description that the previous users were trying to convey. It's an asspull

>reading comprehension
Retard

It doesn't mean what you want it to mean, and chapter 217, page 3 makes that clear

>We Will See
Everytime

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so anything now is a asspull for retards

Will of D still hasn't played into the story yet so it doesn't count. ZOLO

>No, I don't.
Yes you do,

>. You'd like that because you can hide behind semantics, but your entire defense rests on someone who is admitting he never meant power = quirk somehow meaning the opposite.
So where did he say that it transfers physical strength user?

>So all of the "These are All Might's explanations and he said power and power can mean quirk XD" posts are proven wrong.
Nope because that's how OfA worked . The page was suppose to be foreshadowing but you seem to have not been able to get it being the dumbass that you are.

>So it's a completely additional functionality that the previous 2 users at the very least had no concept of, and goes against the exact description that the previous users were trying to convey.

>OfA stores and transfers power
>All Deku has been doing is using the power of the previous users in OfA
>What Deku did during the JT arc was use the power of the previous users in OfA
OH MY GOD ITS SO DIFFERENT! THIS IS AN ASSPULL OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER!

>is 7 sources of power really worse than 4?
Yes, almost twice as bad.

>It doesn't mean what you want it to mean, and chapter 217, page 3 makes that clear
Nope. Try again user. Where did All Might say it only transfer physical strength?

>"it just finally got strong enough"
>it finally got convenient enough

>7

Look its another retard.

This was retconned.

According to the novels Fullbring powers come from the Soul Kings body parts, not hollows.

Power =/= ability

Is there even a difference in how these “different” powers achieve the same fucking thing?

You're not even replying to the right topic or person

>Established since the beginning that OfA gets stronger with each new transfer

Your right, technically it’s 8 quirks because AfO mixed a second one with his brothers.
Thanks for the correction, it is exactly twice as bad.

>All Might gives Deku the literal strongest quirk
>Deku gets 6 more overpowered quirks
>Powercreep to make his friends even more pointless and useless

>OfA does something, so I can add anything I want at any time!
>I'll just change how the main character's power works on a whim, and it's not an asspull!
The absolute state of BNHA fans

>retroactively adding powers in

Every time I read "Quincy" this is all I can think of.

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>I'll just change how the main character's power works on a whim,
>Doesn't change anything

I think you guys have actually gotten dumber these past six months

No, fullbring is still hollow power, now we know that the hollows didnt attack at random, but to consume the SK pieces

>Your right, technically it’s 8 quirks because AfO mixed a second one with his brothers.
No you still can't count.

You've been arguing about a children's manga for 6 months? Get help

>All Might gives Deku the literal strongest quirk
Not even the strongest quirk in the manga

>Deku gets 6 more overpowered quirks
What are the other quirks user?

>Powercreep to make his friends even more pointless and useless
So this has happened?

And you're too stupid to understand a children's manga.

>Steadily gets more stronger with each transfer
>Goes from 1 Superpowered quirk to 7 Superpowered quirks between 8th and 9th generation.

>It does one thing
>It now does different, unrelated things
Changed

>adding powers
>when the powers were always there

>Brothers ability
>Stock pill guys quirk
>(2) users were quirkless originally (Deku, All Might)
>9-2 = 7 users who had quirks
>Therefore, 8 quirks in total
Not my fault you failed first grade math.

Only if you want to scarf down the retcon

>Goes from 1 Superpowered quirk to 1 superpowered quirk

Okay?

>it does one thing
>still does one thing

Same

You really are stupid.

>retcon
Where did All Might say it only transfers physical strength user

>Not even the strongest quirk in the manga
>All Might beats Endgame Villain twice despite being massively weakened; Deku's will be even more stronger than All Might's strength

>What are the other quirks user?
Super powered black substance like Spiderman's webs. Every one of these powers will be enhanced the same way as the Superstrength.

>So this has happened?
Overhaul Arc where Deku solos the Main Villain while Uraraka and Frog is useless.

>combined quirk counts as two quirks
I guess Bakugou has two quirks then because his quirk is just a combination of both his parents quirks.

Lots of desperate damage control going on here

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Where did he say quirks? He definitely says he never meant quirks.

By that logic I guess Nomu only have one quirk each.

>All Might beats Endgame Villain twice despite being massively weakened; Deku's will be even more stronger than All Might's strength
Yeah because he's All Might that doesn't mean the quirk is the strongest especially since he was on his last stand and AfO by all accounts let himself get captured

>>Super powered black substance like Spiderman's webs. Every one of these powers will be enhanced the same way as the Superstrength.
So you're talking out your ass.

>Overhaul Arc where Deku solos the Main Villain while Uraraka and Frog is useless.
Yep definitely talking out your ass

I've given Bleach a lot of shit, but it's wildly better than Picodemia

This is just not true.

>There is no difference between natural quirk mixing and forcefully adding someone else’s DNA to get their quirk
Based retard.

AM never said quirks either
Or Nana

Where did All Might say it only transfers physical strength user? What does power imply?

Nope.

>can't count
>thinks 7 quirks is only one quirk despite the series outright stating he has 6 more quirks now

cope

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MHA is trash so that’s not surprising.

Whatever he means, it's definitely, canonically, not quirks

First Off: We know quirks can combine when more than one is placed in a single body because of the nomus (or whatever they're called).
Guy has useless quirk, his brother gives him super strength because shits and giggles. The quirks combine. Realizes he can pass on the power to other people. Those people probably have quirks, One for All probably combined with those quirks as well.
If people honestly think this was unexpected you are probably the reason that jap authors have to spell everything out for their 2nd grade reading level fans.

>dude trust me

Ichigo is poster child for "you went too far with the powers"

But 7 quirks is pretty fucking stupid.

So OfA doesn't have 6 separate quirks at all its just one power. Thanks for clearing things up

He doesn't have 7 quirks fuck.

>Literally ignores the manga telling us it’s multiple quirks multiple times
Man, hero fans sure are desperate to make it seem like it’s not trash.

No trust needed, friend. There's proof

the point is he will, don't be pedantic

>AFO let himself get captured
>headcanon

>AFO uses combined quirk spam on weakened All Might
>still lost and lost before to Prime Might;only defeated him by making him Angry

>So you're talking out your ass.
>muh accumulated 7 quirks
cope

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>Mangastream

No wonder so many people are confused with this manga. You read shit translations.

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You’re an idiot.

...

No he will not. He will have ONE quirk. That is OfA.

>AFO let himself get captured
>headcanon
Read slower

>AFO uses combined quirk spam on weakened All Might
>Just made his arm bigger

> accumulated 7 quirks

So you don't now what that word means

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I don't really mind the 7 more quirks, because Toshinori will get a fuck ton more with the way AfO was hoarding them. Besides they not all might end up with not all of them being a direct physical power.

By literal definition he (will) have nine.

Quirk in Japanese is “individuality”.

He inherited the personalities of 7 previous users, and will get All Might when he dies.

Therefore, he literally DOES have multiple quirks. Eight currently and nine when All Might dies.

Get fucked, niplet.

So you can't count. Got it.

>Herofag refuses to admit he’s wrong

So according to CFWOY all Fullbringers have Soul King parts. Which part is Ichigo?

Why do Picodemia defenders always resort to headcanon when faced with facts about how bad the writing of their series is?
>OFA was never pertained to have more than super strength inside, now Picofags are taking the retcon as proof that when AM said power, he meant quirks
>Horikoshi literally forgot about Twice cloning Toga but Picofags launched a desperate crusade on Yea Forums with excuse after excuse until Hori himself issued an apology
>Shiggy has a very bland and soft backstory that is being defended to this day as him being born a psychopath, when being psychopathic from birth is literally observable from day 1, is not mentioned by anybody in his family, yet Picofags are now taking this headcanon as fact
Bleachfags should be thankful they don't have these transplanted Narutards who shit up every thread with their fanboyism

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「The Heart」

Not whole parts like a leg, a liver or a lung, but fragments of his soul.

How? I think in Bleach it was still before the actual Mexico invasion but MHA feels like a real slog.

>Prime All Might still defeated AFO and only got a fatal wound from being caught offguard by Nana ded remarks

>Thinks AFO could've defeated AM when he forced AM to tank an attack head on prior and still lost.

>muh accumulated power of AFO being applied to all of the 6 new quirks making themsignificantly stronger (basically the same way the Superstrength went from Wall level to City level) has but I have to explain the joke for the mentally disabled

COPE

>OFA was never pertained to have more than super strength inside,
Where was this stated user?

>Horikoshi literally forgot about Twice cloning Toga
Nope.

>Shiggy has a very bland and soft backstory
Nope

>Bleachfags should be thankful they don't have these transplanted Narutards who shit up every thread with their fanboyism
Bleachfags are dead having to resort to shitty fan animations because the series is so irrelevant nowadays.

Incorrect. Apparently the Hōgyoku was made with the nail of the soul king (that he stole from Big tits).
And the main villain in the novel has the veins of the soul king.

>rime All Might still defeated AFO and only got a fatal wound from being caught offguard by Nana ded remarks
Nice headacanon

>muh accumulated power
So you still don't know what that wor means I see.

O

>all these lies
Concession accepted.

It's mostly made up of fujos, so they're incredibly desperate to maintain a mindset of a perfect world. That's why there's so much circular denial going on.

BNHA attracted the Naruto fandom.

>six months later and shitposters can't even come up with a valid argument

Sad

Like shown

>the nail of the soul king
Misstranslation, it was the soul chain, not a nail
>the veins of the soul king
Where was that said?

Thanks for proving my point

We had the sports festival (better than anything from bleach), the forest arc, joint training and the current arc are all big ones.

Only the power of a fujo can keep you arguing about this for 6 months

Not in itself, but in its execution. Black Whip looks useful but feels frivolous against 100% mastery of OfA. The other quirk should be status or terrain modifiers instead.

>better than anything from bleach

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But you retards are the ones keeping bringing it up

Quincy take energy from around them, Shinigami use there own power, not sure what a Hollow uses.

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Yep better than anything in Bleach.

>We
Since when was being a fan of manga suddenly make you like a fan of a sports team?
Get your head checked

Those 0 stakes arcs are worse than Fullbring arc, Bleach's worst arc

cope

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Those arcs were dull, nothing happened and nothing was on the line. Deku is still a crying cuckold for Baku.

According to this
old.reddit.com/r/bleach/comments/9yvpl8/bleach_tybw_manga_sequel_novel_cant_fear_your_own/
Aura is the one who had the chain.

Reminder that Shigaraki's obsession with heroes was at most a year long because he was literally 5 years old.

His obsession with heroes makes no sense and how he mentally broke down from at most a year of "abuse at best" is retarded.

heem sleepy

Read slower

Why do so many stupid people read this manga and then complain about the writing?

It's bad because instead of attempting to further expand on and see the absolute limit on the singular quirk that Deku has, he has simply been given 7 new abilities that will undeniably come out at the perfect time for maximum asspull potential.

B-but he was born a psychopath!!!!!!!!11111

boards.fireden.net/a/thread/185790103/#185790264

This chapter caused so much butthurt that it even bleed through its placement on the TOC

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>7
Oh look another retard

I would've preferred dreams of the previous users' lives over 7 Quirks, honestly.

7 generations of a strange world, bundled in an inconvenient package. You wish your history books were that intimate with details.

If Ichigo is a perfect hybrid why was Kazui able to one shot Bach and he couldn’t?

Was Ichigo originally supposed to kill god and destroy soul society and return reality to the state of natural buddhist/hindu transmigration so that everyone could just live the way they want?

but instead islam wins? wtf?

>NOT seeing the blatant foreshadowing of Deku's own quirk

This unironically is the case though.
Quirks determine your personality.
Izuku is quirkless because he’s literally bland.

It doesn't invalidate my point because I goofed the number though.

Yeah I got mixed up. Aura has the chain, but the "nail" means something else. Missstormcaller has the better translations

>All those Bleach powers came after 12~ years of manga
>some of them are completely obsolete or powers Ichigo cant even use anymore

>7 quirks was a single powerup for Deku
>After only 3-4 years

That would be like if Ichigo hit Bangai VS Byakuga
Or if Naruto got Kurama Chakra Mode vs Kakuzu
Or Luffy got Gear 4 vs Crocodile
or Goku got SSJ vs Raditz
or Yusuke got Genkai's Spirit Orb vs Rando

I could keep going...

>b-but bleach!
Give it a rest. Even Bleach didn’t make Ichigo a god immediately, and he still got shit on in his final form.

Of course it does because it makes you out to being a fucking idiot who can't follow the manga let alone can't count.

>he didn't even utilize it in any interesting way.
Which is why he continually jobbed like a bitch.

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It seems to me like his Quirk was constantly causing him physical pain like a permanent rash.

>Which is why he continually jobbed like a bitch.
Which doesn't fucking matter since he still winds up using bland attacks and still wins.

>The power to erase things
Would have been far better than his real power, to shoot black beams of energy.

So Midoriya is basically the Avatar.
But instead of being born as the Chosen One, he was literally in the right place at the right time.

>Supposedly the ubermech
>Has the worst ability/bankai in the manga
Oh no no no no no

>Ichigo mastered the highest state a shinigami can achieved one that takes thousands of years to master...in a couple of days during the manga's 3rd year.

>Deku is still at 8% and is nowhere near to mastering OfA in the manga's 5th year

Your last point doesn't even make sense since that's exactly what happened since YYK only ran for 4 years.

Yeah, Deku only had one of the previous user's powers unlocked right now and he ALREADY is tied with him XD

Pretty much.
Luck is a part of skill, though. To be in the right place at the right time is a defining characteristic of pretty much every story.
So I don’t think that’s really that much of a negative.

It's the argument my mother always used to cover for her parenting flaws.

I dont get it, i assumed from the start that One For All gives access to all the previous quirks eventually.
I stopped reading a bit ago and only now catching up but did people take it as a shock? Seemed foreshadowed to me from the beginning.

It's a stockpiling quirk mixed with one that passes down quirks, and the reason All Might at least couldn't use the other quirks is because he's a bit of a lunk. He's not clever enough.

The line about "completing" one for all also makes me think it had to stockpile enough power to be able to activate this effect, and Deku just got lucky.

>takes thousands of years to master
Wrong

At least try a little harder

Yea Forums even guessed it years ago but I guess the anime attracted a ton of retarded bandwaongers.

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Shounen power scaling is bullshit, because there is no sensible reasoning behind large power gaps and cliffs once the story gets to a point where the creator wanted to stop, and where they were forced to continue it too (specifically DBZ, Naruto, and Bleach)

AM has been using it for years and never once displayed any of the seven.

Eren is just as bad if not worse than that faggot Kurosaki or that little pleb Deku.

Nope

Maybe if it were one or two more quirks (which is still bullshit) it would still be somewhat acceptable, but this entirely is just bullshit.

So what?

>Wan Piss

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In TYBW he got rekt in every single fight and didn't do shit. I don't remember if he even won against any scrubs. Even Quilge got beat by Urahara, then cut in half by whomever. In earlier fights, like Byakuya and Ulquiorra, Ichigo was carried by his hollow.

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Yup

No you're just retarded

Nice, so you have no real defense?

Nope.

Cope

The explanation is the quirk hadn’t stockpiled enough power yet.
Logically if he hadn’t been hurt like he was, he would have eventually unlocked them too (given they unlocked due to reaching enough stockpile energy) or even if he had waited a year before handing it down to someone else.

>Ichigo was carried by his hollow
Which is still his power desu.

>it would be bad writing.
One Piece in a nutshell.

Why is Ichigo such a terrible character? Seriously, he was somewhat appealing when the series was just about actual soul reaping and killing hollows but ever since Rukia got taken away by Soul Society, everything went tits up retarded.

>In TYBW he got rekt in every single fight and didn't do shit.
Wrong. Hell he was barely even in that arc. Didn't stop the fact that he was considered among the key factors in turning the tides of the war and was able to defeat Bach.

Every woman does this.
>Mom, why do you always X?
>AT LEAST I DON'T Y LIKE Z DOES

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>thousands of years
10 years.

>Is too stupid to follow a shounen manga
>expects anyone to take you seriously

Wrong

The quirk suddenly "maturing" to unlock previous quirks is complete bullshit. It's a contrivance that's been handwaved aside because it doesn't make sense.

Ichigo was casually stomping on Quilge after he absorbed Ayon. Later he casually stopped on Giselle, Lilttoto, Meninas and Candice (who was in vollstandig) with his shikai

>The quirk suddenly "maturing" to unlock previous quirks is complete bullshit
OfA gets stronger with each transfer dumbass.

Post the page that says it takes 1000 years user

Lying doesn’t make what you say true.

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>AM has been using it for years and never once displayed any of the seven.
I just assumed we both dont know much about All Might and the quirk, and that it will be revealed later.
To me it seemed weird for it just pass down one quirk along with nothing passed from the previous users, i expected it to come with something more, ether additional quirks or experiences.

No one is shocked, we knew Hori will mention the quirks of the other predecessors eventually. People aren't satisfied with black whip when we could've gotten some more tantalising morsels of exposition about the predecessors fight with OfA. What can black whip do that OfA can't eventually do anyway?

Aizen carried him vs. Bach
Zangetsu was a zanpakuto who merged with a hollow and was a separate being from Ichigo.
>he can only stomp on women
I knew he was a fucking misogynist

SpiderMan works hard because he is strong.
t. Uncle Bennis :DDD

She was talking about her training dumbass also that still proves his point that Ichigo achieved something in a few days in which the average person would take years.

Ichigo's powers actively counter and lock each other in a stalemate. And that's the only reason why he's alive.

>he can only stomp on women
You mean based, but Quilge was a man

When ever I read asspull being used unironically in context with fictional stories, I immediately think "smooth brain".

>T-thousands of years is the same as 10!
Just admit you were wrong.

>10 years and 1000 years are equivalent
Retard

It's a contrivance retard. Tell me this. If it got gradually stronger, stockpiling power and such, why doesn't All Might have any of the previous quirks, while Deku will get every single one of them? That's not an escalation of gaining power with each transfer, it just flips the switch of having them vs not having them.

>What can black whip do that OfA can't eventually do anyway?
Why didnt Nana or any of the previous users get the powers then? Do you see how stupid your question is?

What has Shiro to do with Ichigo's soul and powers? I can't seem to remember his or hollow shiro's connection in the story. It's been a while though.

>was a separate being from Ichigo.
Well I consider the swords part of the character's powers. Like, Zabimaru is Renji's "power" too for example desu.

Here's my guess: it was making room for his mentor Nana's Quirk while also giving All Might its original power storage. It being passed to a second Quirkless container meant it no longer had to direct effort towards making room for yet another Quirk, allowing itself to focus fully on molding the second Quirkless container.

Shiro was an experimental parasitic hollow created by Aizen that infected Masaki, but Urahara supposed it with the help of Isshin. When Ichigo was born Shiro was passed down on to him and it fused with his shinigami powers

>Mental gymnastics

Thank you, I vaguely remember now.

Now your just being stupid on purpose

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Funny you compare Eren to deku when Eren has actually goals and things at stake and deku was handed 7 quirks and is literally never going to lose in any important way, the only character important to him that's going to die on screen is All Might

wasn't fullbring a filler?

bnha will never be able to top pic related

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Good to see you can see into the future

Pretty much. It was the only arc that didn't explicitly move the story forward. Then again, that was immediately after the 'story' ended, so maybe Kubo didn't know what to do and had to wing something.

According to the novels it was supposed to be far more important than it ended up being

>filler
Fillter* user. A fillter that doesn't let the plebs pass

What's illogical about not having to multitask? That's as good a hypothesis as I can make.

I don't know, kachako shipper are quite something

there was nothing to lead up to the idea that deku should have 7 quirks and why would it manifest in deku and not in all might?
and 7 (probably extremely versatile) quirks in a universe where everyone only has 1 is pretty fucking dumb

>there was nothing to lead up to the idea that deku should have 7 quirks
Read slower

>read while inserting your own headcanon and automatically assume the author has no standards
Fixed that for you~

Enter GODren

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>headcannon
>is literally within the manga

Its just easier to call you stupid

>there was nothing to lead up to the idea that deku should have 7 quirks
Read slower

>and why would it manifest in deku and not in all might?
Why wouldn't it?

>and 7 (probably extremely versatile) quirks in a universe where everyone only has 1 is pretty fucking dumb
>7

Also there are characters that can use multiple quirks in the manga already.

I think its worse when people get confronted with their stupidity that they have to act passive aggressive for some reason.

>I think its worse when people get confronted with their stupidity that they have to act passive aggressive for some reason.
>(you)

cope

But it's not. You want it to be. You see things that almost make you feel that your opinion is validated. However, it is not factual.

They didn't receive black whip by choice. The choice was Hori's, and he really could've chosen something else as one of the 7 quirks. Again, black whip adds little on top super strength and super speed.

Unless, unless black can be remote controlled, then it's a different story.

You sure showed me
It is. Hell it was a theory for years after chapter 59 dropped. You're just denying it because you don't want to look like a jackass.

>7

Oh look another retard

>It was fanfiction for years
The evidence of a true Tumblr fanbase

>fanfiction
>in the manga

Why is it so easy to make fun of the idiots who hate this manga?

>It was a theory for years
>in the manga
Fanfiction

>theory based on evidence in the manga that came to fruition
>fanfiction

This is way to advanced for you

>wasn't fullbring a filter?
Yes, it was a pleb filter.

>It was in the manga!
>W-well we had evidence! That made us write our fanfiction! Look, here, where we preten-
Fanfiction

>Also there are characters that can use multiple quirks in the manga already.
It was also stablished that having too many Quirks transfered to you turns you into a Nomu. It seemed like the human limit was 2.

AfO and Giga can use multiple quirks

I remember saying that before in a thread and someone told me I was reaching.

Not trying to defend Shitigo but at least his powers just stacked into a few instead having each power being its own independant ability, it feels less asspull-y

In a recent interview Hori was asked why he chose that Deku should inherit 7 quirks
>Seven? Oh, right. I chose seven because its a lucky number and I wanted to share that luck with my readers! I really feel lucky to have so many fans.

This should clear up some arguments in here.

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Hori needs a good dicking desu, no homo.

Based

There is no proof Giga has more than one quirk.

Every shit character is popular because people love OP MC's.

That's some deep lore

yikes
thanks for reminding me that series exists, I can't remember a single well-written character from attack on titan.

Oh look another retard, he said abilities not quirks. Deku does have more abilities now you idiot, only his quirk is still singular. God I hate people like you who can't read. Just like how bakugo and todoroki have ONE quirk with MULTIPLE abilities attached.

I mean, is anybody really impressed it's garbage after 3 different tournament arcs? Not even DB has that many, and it was a martial arts anime.

There's only been one Tournament arc retard

Deku with 7 quirks vs. Shiggy with AfO and big threes' quirks animated

there's potential for some cool shit to happen so I'm remaining hopeful

Speedreader

Retard

Man I'm not trying to destroy MHA for you or anything. I have misgivings about some of Hori's decisions but I enjoy reading his weekly chapters in spite of them. I can lie to you now and say I think everything he did is wonderful - if you believe an user on Yea Forums anyway.

Shaman King. The MC isn't even the third most powerful at the end.

Yoh is a decedent of a power family dumbass.

>specifically says normal training
>huur durrrr its her training
Oh look another retard. Read slower.

Ichigo was considered a freak since chapter 1, only ever trained when he needed to, barely progressed in his trainings aside of the Bankai training and the reason it worked it's because his life was really on the line and later on it was explained that his powers grow faster during real battles when his opponents want to kill him or any close friend, even Ginjo noticed this during his Fullbring training, if anything Bleach has the least nakama power of long running manga

>if anything Bleach has the least nakama power of long running manga
Yeah because its just complete bullshit from the start.

>specifically says normal training
Wrong again dipshit

DB has six or seven tournament arcs, retard.

>Quirks are absolutely atrocious, and not just because they are an asspull but because:
>7
>asspull

Absolute brainlet post

>And now he has to master superstrength and 5 other powers
Super-strength isn't his quirk retard

>All Might already beat One for All twice with just superstrength. And Deku should be even stronger. Why does Deku need more powers?
Deku isn't All Might, AM was able to master OfA immediately after getting it while Deku is struggling with it. Your assumption is that Deu would have no trouble with AfO is retarded in itself since Deku can only go up to 8% without destroying himself.

>The manga is at a state where Hori has to hand out power ups to the villains so there is any tension.
>power-ups

No surprise given you're a brainlet

>Deku 's character arc was completely done in Kamino.

And this isn't true either.

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>no proof ever
>constantly butthurt
>can't read
Absolute brainlet. How can one person be this worthless. I can't believe you can't read a single sentence without completely missing everything it says.

Mx0.

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Because children are known for their level-headedness and mental fortitude.

Don't know why this thread has 400 posts when this reply was enough

Kenichi

>OH MY NINE-TAILED FOX
>OH MY KINJUTSU I LEARNED OVERNIGHT
>OH MY SHADOW CLONE TRAINING
>OH MY SAGE MODE
>OH MY TAILED BEAST FRIENDSHIP
>OH MY REINCARNATION OF ASHURA
>OH MY SIX PATHS HAX
>OH MY 5 NATURE TRANSFORMATIONS
>OH MY 3 KEKKAI GENKAI
>OH MY PERFECT CHAKRA CONTROL
>OH MY HASHIRAMA ARM
Naruto was the original Deku.

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ITS BEEN 5 YEARS

He is Green Naruto after all

>Its been 20 years and only 2 years have passed in One Piece

Man this is awful.

And a mediocre shaman both in abilities, training, spirit and power level. Even after getting a million power ups, he was weaker than fucking Chocolove and the Buddhist guys; not to mention Hao.

In a year?

>And a mediocre shaman both in abilities, training, spirit and power level
No? Do you just love making up bullshit?

>he was weaker than fucking Chocolove and the Buddhist guys
Nope Chocolove just had a higher level Furyoku but he's not stronger.

>Deku
>One For All

Yeah totally the same thing

All of Naruto's powers stem from him being an Ashura incarnate, when you think about it. And that was pretty well foreshadowed.

stfu BNHA faggot

>And that was pretty well foreshadowed.
No it wasn't.

Speadreader

>Amidamaru is a strong human spirit, but still nowhere near the spirits of forces of nature, guardians, deities, angles and literal Gods
>he got his ass handed to him by fucking Faust which is just slightly above-average
>even after receiving a million power ups he couldn't beat some literal who shamans in the tournament
>to the pont Hao had to save him. Twice
>or the Indians guarding Hao, for that matter
Also,
>Chocolove has a higher power level, but that doesn't mean he's more powerful
>the only reason they couldn't beat Hao is that he has a higher power level
user, are you OK?

fuck that

>he got his ass handed to him by fucking Faust which is just slightly above-average
Faust was among one of the strongest Shaman contestants

>even after receiving a million power ups he couldn't beat some literal who shamans in the tournament
He was not a literal who

>Chocolove has a higher power level, but that doesn't mean he's more powerful
He got his ass handed to him all the fucking time. Him having a larger reserve doesn't mean he was the most powerful you fucking dumbass.

>the only reason they couldn't beat Hao is that he has a higher power level
Wrong again dipshit

So to conclude Yoh came from a very powerful lineage and had a very powerful Shaman spirit.

But he didn't. Yoh struggled all the way to the end of the series.
>Faust was strong
He was so weak, he decided to stop fighting not halfway through the series.
>larger reserve
Furyoku is not just a reserve, it determines how much power the shaman can use on an attack. More furyoku means more powerful attacks and more control over spirits.

Amidamaru himself is at least 1000 times weaker than the fire spirit by the end of the series.

>Adimaru is weaker than the strongest spirit in the series

Yeah no shit jackass.

>the strongest
Amudamaru wasn't even the strongest of the main character's spirits. He was weaker than Bason, Kororo and Tokageroh. Just barely stronger than the jaguar and fucking morphine.

Hell, the Oni created by Anna (which is canonically the second strongest shaman only behing Hao) were both stronger than Amidamaru. And they were created by a little girl.

> one series does something shitty
> now its 100% fine for some other series to do horseshit as well
Wow, MHAfags get more retarded every week.

> im to stupid to understand simple points
Top Kek.

Based and redpilled. This is truly the new generations Naruto. Kudos Horikoshit.

> Show me where it explcitly says that it doesn't pass quirks
Ever heard of subtlety?
We dont need explicit statements that Minetas hairballs are coming back immediately after being torn off, we saw it.
Same thing with OFA, we saw AM, the one who used it perfectly and better than anyone before him never use a quirk, and suddenly its "you are the right generation kid, you are the chosen one to use all of our quirks, AM was just misfortunate to be one generation to early".
Its one of the worst ways to do this stuff since it literally reeks of the author having not idea of how to do anything regarding the intro of new quirks (and worse: it wasnt even needed).

> i will lie to defend my retarded point
Keep digging MHAbro, at some point you will have blocked all the annoying people pointing out the flaws in your beloved masterpiece.

And how is that fight going to look like? Deku cant get touched because he would die, and shiggy cant get hit because he would be down as well, in order to make this interesting you would have to make strategy and planning a thing in this fights but as 220+ chapters showed, thats not going to happen.

Just this page alone is fuckign MHA so deep into the ground it comes out on the other side of the planet.

>Ever heard of subtlety?
This is your argument? You do realize retards like you are saying its poorly written because he didn't say it pass down quirks from the get go right? The same dumbfucks that state Toga using quirks is an asspull because it wasn;t in the description for transformation when anyone with common sense can see that was the case.

>Same thing with OFA, we saw AM, the one who used it perfectly and better than anyone before him never use a quirk
This is pure headcannon. And this is why you faggots always fucking lose.

>and suddenly its "you are the right generation kid, you are the chosen one to use all of our quirks, AM was just misfortunate to be one generation to early".
Its literally stated that quirks get stroger withe each generation and that OfA gets stronger with each new user. You might as well say that AM was born in the right generation since he was able to master it and defeat AfO something none of the previous users could do.

>Amudamaru wasn't even the strongest of the main character's spirits.
Yes he was. Stop lying out your fucking ass.
>Hell, the Oni created by Anna (which is canonically the second strongest shaman only behing Hao) were both stronger than Amidamaru.
More fucking headcannon

> 7 quirks
> he actually gets 6
> 7 is because the inheriting quirk isnt counted but the strength stockpiling quirk is
> from the readers btw
In short: fuck this manga, FT was better planned ffs.

>But he didn't
He did you fucing lair

>He was so weak
No he wasn't/ Nowhere was it stated he was weak.

>
>Furyoku is not just a reserve, it determines how much power the shaman can use on an attack. More furyoku means more powerful attacks and more control over spirits.
Chocolove never unleashed anything remotely as powerful as Yoh and jobbed repeatedly despite his higher reserve.

Falsefag more bnha faggot.

>6 months
>not one shitposter has given an actual legit rebuttal or can prove its an asspull
>People will always destroy your stance and you can't do shit about it.

Greta feelig

You just love talking out your ass don't you?

>Imagine being THIS stupid

What shonen has the least asspulls?

Why don't we reverse the situation? If it was obvious and everyone knew it, post some threads ( at least 20 ) where people/user discussed about him gaining quirks of the others champions of ofa from 2+ years ago.

>at least 20
Yeah...no, you already got proven wrong twice before in this thread alone by posting exerts from threads dating as far back as 2015. Th etheory existed way before this came about and the only people screeching "asspulls" are retards who can't read or weren't here back then. At this point I can just randomly find any post from before this year to show you that it was a constant thing but you're too fucking lazing to look through the archive yourself.

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He's right, and you know it.

Nah you're just retarded.

Struck a nerve, huh.

Every theory exists user because there are thousands of retards who have all the time in the world to think of every situation possible and one will eventually be correct. To prove that it was obvious and famous though, you need to post quite a bit of threads. 20 is a low number in this regard as Bnha is quite famous worldwide. It doesn't matter if the threads aren't from here.

>>OH MY HASHIRAMA ARM
I don’t know why you included this. Does it even do anything for him besides not make him look like a cripple?

the only good thing about BNHA is this series exhentai.org/g/1315054/8d00898a58/

He gets regeneration hax, possible wood release, and possibly eliminates the need to eat or drink.

Unironically this.
X being bad doesn't make Y any less bad.

Seeth

Fpbp

Deku's 7 quirks is more organic to the setting than Ichigo's hybrid nature. His everything-ness is basically 600 magical unique things coinciding at the same time to create the perfect Mary ever to Sue. Then you can quadruple it with his kid because Kubo is just that uncreative.

One For All snowballing across the ages to finally mature to the point where it can defeat All For One through the power of all of its wielders is thematically consistent and gives credence to all who ever wielded it. They've all added their power to it, it means they're still somewhere in there, still fighting, which is what the power is all about.

People sperging over it is forced and cringe, just like people liking Bleach just because they grew up on it.

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>Every theory exists user because there are thousands of retards who have all the time in the world to think of every situation possible and one will eventually be correct.
And those get promptly dismissed and never get brought up again

>To prove that it was obvious and famous though, you need to post quite a bit of threads.
Not really. All I need to do is post a few and I still win. The problem with your retarded assumption is that you assume all MHA discussion happens here. Me posting 20 won't prove anything because at that point you're just asking to be fed because you don't want to admit you were out of the loop for years. I mean even reddit brought it up.
reddit.com/r/BokuNoHeroAcademia/comments/7kxdzs/what_happens_if_you_get_one_for_all_but_already/

reddit.com/r/BokuNoHeroAcademia/comments/6p1q9t/so_does_one_for_all_have_other_quirks/3286

>not know what a mary sue is
Retard

knowing*