What do you think of Nanoha? What did you think of the new movies?

What do you think of Nanoha? What did you think of the new movies?
Very late to the party but I just watched the whole series and loved every bit of it.

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After all these years, Feito-chan's ass still reigns supreme.

Nanoha is truly a miracle of this Earth

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The manga was cinematography of the highest order.

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BetrayerS was the highest point. After that the franchise went to shit.

It is still good.

>tfw no pet mongoose

I can't tell if nobody liked the new movies at all or if it's just that nobody wants to look like a bitch.

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Nanoha was good. A's was amazing, but Strikers turned me off to the format and I haven't been back since.

BetrayerS wasn't even part of the franchise. Almost everyone says that A's was the highest point which was 14 years ago. I don't know how it's managed to keep going for so long after that.

The canon installments (S1, A's, Reflection and Detonation) are good. Everything else can die in a motherfucking hole.

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>one thread goes by without some stating the obvious
>HURR NO ONE LIKES THE MOVIE EVEN THOUGH IT REVITALIZED THE SERIES AND SOLD LIKE HOTCAKES
Fanficshitters are such desperate retards, holy shit.

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Iris was best girl.

Nanoha not thinking about Fate when she was thinking it's the end was a slip-up.

Making materials into cats was pretty clever, it explains their high and mighty attitudes and stuff much better so the movie made them much more stomachable than GoD IMHO. Brilliant touch if this was intentional, great lucky windfall if not.

BTW, when Maxwell mentioned that there are factions that would be interested in his technology, I immediately had "foreshadowing" and "sequel hook" lights going on. It was not picked up and quickly downplayed to not mean anything specific, but together with the plague of Eltria being called Eclipse, I could totally use this to hook these movies into Force or a Force reboot. Would be pretty neat but naturally no idea if they plan anything like this.

Detonation pleasantly suprised, I had doubts and fears about their ability to write a good story anymore, after Movie 2nd and Vivid Strike, which had good starting position and material but the writing just sucked after it started.
Reflection had me much more on the edge, when I watched that. With some of the flaws of it together with Bitch-kun's waxing all the time, I just wasn't quite convinced.

But Detonation provided a good story and plot (compared to that, Reflection was still kinda "some fights happened and then they released the recolors") and Iris and Yuri's personal history added exactly the engaging story that was needed, plus good characters. It was good that Detonation was about them and not about materials as I kind of feared.
So in the end, I quite enjoyed it. Naturally various things could hsve been done better, but good things clearly outweight them so it retroactivelly fixes Reflection weaknesses in a way.

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You might want to give the new movies, Reflection and Detonation, a shot in that case. They're ACTUALLY proper returns to the formula and the characters from S1 and A's. And it managed to do it so superbly that it makes me want to know who exactly I have to kill to be in the timeline where we got these instead of ShitterS.

>I don't know how it's managed to keep going for so long after that.
They sold out to normalfaggots, which gave them a surplus. That surplus is running out though, which is why they're going back to what the true fans have always wanted all along instead of doing random shit like le ebin buddy cop in space shit.

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>but together with the plague of Eltria being called Eclipse
IIRC that's just the translation and it and the illness don't share a name in Japanese.
That said, if they do use that to continue Detonation with a Force reboot except with the OG loli cast, that'd be neato.

It's a really strange movie. Nanoha and Fate feel really out of place, especially Fate. They don't really mean much to the story.

You can't be important every time. Get over it.

But they're the main characters. Hayate is more important then the two of them in this movie.

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Nanoha is the main character. Going "but le everyone should be a MC" is what helped ruin the franchise once before.

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Just acknowledge Vivid somewhere in your post to distance yourself. Which incidentally was also finished recently. I'm going to binge that now.
>you are getting a life-flashing-before-your-eyes-during-mortal-danger vision of your moms
>they are indecently holding hands despite the grave situation
>thinking you don't see it if it is out of the frame

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>nooo talk about muh fanfic!!!
And the thread was going so smoothly until now.

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also
>her two mothers
No idea if the original wording also makes so much effort to emphasise that.

eat my quads sucker. They show who is on the side of the True Nanoha Justice.

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I like how Reflection and Detonation's writing put so much effort into shoving everything else into the fanfic realm of noncanonshittery. They know what people actually want.

>ch-check em
Newfag.

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I bet you actually think the commentaries mean anything too.

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I can accept Nanoha not being the most important character but that bit at the end of Detonation would have worked better if the movie had more of a focus on her.

>二人の母
It does.

Also, it's hilarious how bitch spent years spamming that these two new movies were going to be all about Nanoha and Fate, but now he's defending the fact that they were barely in the movies. This is what true insanity looks like. He's probably too mentally ill to connect most of what he says.

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>Nanoha and Fate appearing, helping as much as they can with their canon personalities, appearances and powers, even if their presence isn't that huge in the grand scheme of things
>is exactly the same as them being degenerated into moeblobs who do nothing because muh MMA with literal whos, why even watch Nanoha to see Nanoha lmao
This is what fanfics do to people.

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You're the kind of person who only likes one version of Star Trek, aren't you?

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Now that it's been confirmed that the next season is going to have the StrikerS cast (including characters who never appeared in Innocent), will it be a great season or the greatest season?

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Whoever did that is free to point out what did Nanoha do in the entirety of Vivid other than stand around looking hag and how is it supposed to stand up to:
>on-screen training battle against Fate
>stopping Kyrie and her trucks + Excellion Buster while tied up + PURGE BLAST + dragging Kyrie across the pavement like a boss
>defeating Stern
>saving Amitie in the nick-est of times
>defeating Yuri
>leading the charge against Maxwell
>going to space and punching a robot in the face while shooting a laser that destroys a satellite cannon

Was Nanoha always such a self hating sociopath?

Remember that time they were included in Movie 1st and then suddenly they had a new season for themselves? That sure happened. What about Movie 2nd? What about Reflection? Man, remember when Detonation was totally going to be the movie for them? Good times.
>imagine being so new you don't know about publicity stunts

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Yeah it's why she always puts 110% of herself on the line when it comes to helping people.
Did you not watch season 1? Remember that the canon entries of the series are season 1, A's, Reflection and Detonation.

I just want to see the Vivid Strike cast in actual magic battles

>nanoha not lead?
>but her name in title!
>grug no like!

>man i really need my fix of not-nanoha
>ah, Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, that'll be perfect

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I liked it but 2 things kind of annoyed me.
1- I wish the interdimensional police weren't so useless. Aside from Chrono they never seem to do anything good.
2- I think it would have been great to expand on the Book's powers and have Hayate cast some big ass ritual spell (no the one for golems doesn't count) or maybe use it to heal people and fix shit up a bit. Especially since we had Yuri around.

I seem to recall bitches hating on small boss because of StrikerS.
I'd say her inclusion in Movie 3rd/4th was pretty nice though. I hope we can all agree on that, though there was no iconic scene akin to the mini-apartment bag and armchair spin.gif.

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And that's a good thing. Those "jokes" were fucking lame. I don't especially like this one either but at least it's quick.

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>fucking lame
I thought Reflection was perfect. Bitch has said so thousand times over in these threads.

Though you have to be generous, it's hard to compete with those StrikerS moments cuteness.
And the new movies had to flex all muscles after several years of hiatus, so I think we have to come to terms with lots of the lore/details/tricks having been forgotten by the staff in the meantime.

Like, Hayate not targetting a single breast for two full-length movies?! Now that was weird, I kept worrying something was not right with the poor girl, the whole time.

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>it's hard to compete with those StrikerS moments cuteness.
It's not. You just have to not be total shit.

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Are you disagreeing with Bitch-kun's post here ?
Idunno suit yourself but that dude is crazy so I would not get into debates with him.

Ey, Nanoh/a/nons
Where I can start in this franchise?
Sometime ago I just watched the OPs, and it was a great time. Really made my mind to want to know the series and characters.
I'm asking this because I read somewhere that the first series is not good and is not a good place for start.

First series is good, it just takes a bit more patience. Lots of retards blog about it being slow/having bad pacing but frankly, I think it is just memes and people being too dumb to watch anything (the rival appears first in 4th episode, but for fucks sake, the whole series has 13 episodes, what sort of mental do you have to be if you can't watch that).

But I could be wrong of course.
IMHO, start with S1 and just go with prodiction order (always the right thing to do). And if you feel like you can't take it in the early episodes of S1, switch to the Movie 1st which is an alternative version. But then go and watch Season2 TV ("As"), because movie 2nd is not a replacement for that.

After StrikerS, the story is continued in mangas (Vivid and Force, which sadly is on perhaps eternal hiatus).

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You must have read some normalfag blog then.
Watch season 1. If you can't go through it then you're not worthy. Some people might say "oh you watch the movie recap" but only retards do that.
Then watch season 2. Same with that one's movie recap, though it's even more important in this case that you watch the original TV season.
Then watch Reflection. The true canon continuation of A's. After that, watch Detonation. Then you can wait with us for the inevitable Detonation continuation.

That chart has been debunked a million times by this point, what sort of newfag still posts it?
>watching ShitterS
Our friend user here wants to watch Nanoha, not ebin Rush Hour in space for normalfags.
>reading any of the shit manga
Our friend user here wants to watch Nanoha, not ebin MMA trash or EDGY final fantasy 8.

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>unironically recommending Movie 1st
Oh why did I even ask. This IS a newfag.

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Dead franchise ;_;

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>Same with that one's movie recap, though it's even more important in this case that you watch the original TV season.
Actually, with Movie 2nd, it's not just "more important". The movie fails, it isn't a replacement under any circumstances. period. It is well worth to watch it because it has great animation and cute art, but only after you see the TV version of As.

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this guy here is a delusional autist, ignore him.

Doubtful, given Reflection and Detonation. But if it does die then you can thank ShitterS and everyone who supported it and defends it for helping it lead the franchise down the road of death.

this guy here is a delusional autist, ignore him.

user
Thanks for posting the chart of the content~
I'm not much of a Yea Forumsnon, so I never had this chart until now.

Could be. I read/watched a lot of normalfag boomer anime content when I was a teenager.
Also, thanks for the orientation, too~

>Then watch Reflection. The true canon continuation of A's
Just not that the 1077 post is again that psycho autist (it's a weirdo dude that has been spamming every Nanoha thread here for about 2.5 years now, imagine that), we call him "bitch-kun" here.

This guy (you can tell it's him when he rambles about canon/fanfics, "hags" and "ShitterS") hates the third season and its manga sequels so much that he tries to claim they are not canon, goes of ranting how mostly everybody else is not a proper fan and so on. Terrible retard.

StrikerS is the canon third season, like that chart/anidb/anything says. Naturally, you might also not like the third season, there are normal people who don't too (it's a minority AFAIK, mostly people usually like it). But you should at least check it out before deciding that.

>StrikerS is the canon third season
>massively contradicted by the new movies Reflection and Detonation
WHOOPS

>(it's a minority AFAIK, mostly people usually like it)
Citation ULTRA needed, and you need to show that those "people" that "like" it are Nanoha fans and not stray normalfaggots that are happy Nanoha abandoned her roots and core fanbase.

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Seeing this makes me want to rewatch A's again. I'll probably do that next week.

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Remember that time ShitterS acknowledged the existence of the Formula Eltria system, as well as the terrible injuries Nanoha sustained during Detonation?

Me neither, haha.

>bitch-kun rant going on again

Vivio has beaten:
Einhart (MMA World Champion)
Miura (Basically the Nanoha of Vivio, someone actually admirable who wasn't born with infinite powerlevel)
Rinne (world rank #1) (not even her own show but she had to get the spotlight to BTFO the antagonist)
Nanoha (Ace of Aces, forma not-holding-back)

She has rainbow colored chakra, is the rebirth of the God Empress of mankind, and is destined to be uber-powerful
Yea Forums thinks she isn't a mary sue though.

>no proof of his claims at all
Nice.

>my epic OC is so stronk guise
Fuck off.

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You would expect that to get on people's nerves but I don't mind, Vivio can be the Merriest of Sues and it feels right Olivie deserves it.
>rainbow colored chakra
The daughter of such parents simply has to be the ultimate perfection. It even overrules being adopted.

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>shit writing is fine because i like it
These people always show why the franchise needed a reboot to cleanse everything and kick them out for incompetence.

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Also, I think one thing that has to be remembered at all times is that when X beats Y, it automatically means X has to be stronger than Y.
I think the series even acknowledged it a few times that you can win over somebody that is stronger than you.

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>old canon so shit it has to take time to undo its own shit writing with faux-wise bullshit
Thank god we have a new canon that is not only free of your epic OCs but also written properly. Like Nanoha was in S1 and A's and like Nanoha should be.

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>when X beats Y, it automatically means X has to be stronger than Y.
eh, that should have been "when X beats Y, it doesn't automatically mean X has to be stronger than Y"
I guess I was too focused on eating these toasts instead of typing.

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Just like how little attention and care your ilk has for the franchise itself.

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2 Kohakura doujin got translated a couple of weeks ago, in case that someone missed them
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Oh yes, that's why people are into Nanoha. To see your fanfics of it.

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PRINCE

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Who? That doesn't look like any canon characters in the Nanoha franchise. Weird that you'd go to the Nanoha thread to talk about them then.

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Prince Fate is a miracle of the Nanoha Multiverse.

Also scanning user gave us this
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And before that, this
>This thread's as good as any. Have some doujins by the Nanoha Innocent mangaka that I scanned. I think I've posted some of them before but not all of them, and not on Yea Forums.
>mega.nz/#!7QJHiIrQ!4VrfS2zsF8Og5iVYGJbMk4LQVD_FtyXYpH-f4EXrAVY

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Fate is a girl, user. Don't tell me you've been reading fanfics again.

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You're right they were only involved in the plot in one way, they had to clean up the mess.
Hayate because of her book was more important in reflection but in detonation everyone in the main cast was looking in on the situation with less personal stakes.
Though I don't feel like that's too bad a direction to go. Nanoha was absolutely the MVP in Detonation. To an extent I feel they left Fate, Hayate and the knights out a bit for more Nanoha time.

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Do you have any good Nanoha fanfic recomendations, other than Reflection and Detonation?

>more fanfics
See, and then people wonder about why no one wants to talk about Nanoha anymore. How could they, when certain people will ensure only their fanfics are discussed and nothing else.

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Well yeah, it's as if Nanoha is the main character and the one in the title of the franchise. How about that?

Sorry user but no matter how much you pretend otherwise, Reflection and Detonation are the one and only true canon continuation to A's. Take your crying to fanfiction.net and take your dA reject OCs with you.

There is some magic battles in the extra episodes. Don't remember the actual number, just that it was a fraction. And no, I'm not talking about the beach episode.

You remember wrong. It was just a bunch of shit that was so bad that even they were too ashamed to put it in the actual show. Not that it would have made it any less garbage and they likely knew that too.

Yeah right, there were no magic battles at all. No golem or fucking fire/thunder magic attack. None at all.

Fanfics aren't canon, user, and the Nanoha movies are fanfics according to your previous claims and your own definitions.

>take your dA reject OCs with you
So now you hate materials too, Bitch-kun?

I mean, I'm not the greatest fan either and having recolor clones of your main characters simply isn't a good idea, but you have to give it to them, they made them much more likable in Detonation.

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MMA shit isn't magic and it should have never been forced onto Nanoha. If you're so upset by people telling you the truth then maybe you should leave.

So you're actually retarded. Thanks for the clarification.

>if i'm retarded on purpose then no one will notice i'm retarded
"Sorry user but no matter how much you pretend otherwise, Reflection and Detonation are the one and only true canon continuation to A's. Take your crying to fanfiction.net and take your dA reject OCs with you."

Only people who hate good characters while defending "le ebin super rainbow punch who defeats everyone for no reason and can turn adult because it makes my peepee the big peepee" hate the Materials. Some of the very few good characters produced by the franchise in over a decade.

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Oh, burn. You sure got me there, son. Now make a fanfic about it. I'll be sure to read it never.

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>I like to believe that I'm only pretending to be mentally disabled; that way, since I'm only pretending, I don't need to keep fearing having a real mental health issue anymore.

Why do you hate materials when you say only retards hate them? You even called materials dA rejects just now, again.
And you hate and talk trash about doujins that feature them.

I would have agreed with you before, bitch, but caterials aren't that bad. They didn't ruin the movies as I feared they would. What a pathetic retard you are.

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The first step is always to admit you have a problem so congrats on that one. I'm not a shrink though.

Your reading comprehension is for shit. No wonder you prefer fanfics over properly written canon installments of Nanoha, they just go over your head too much.

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I agree Fate wasn't herself, I had that feeling in Reflection mainly, felt too generic good girl, not like the pro mage Fate from As.
But overal after watching Detonation, I don't really think they gave them too little space. Perhaps they should have given more to them and less to caterials, but in the end I liked the story (it's mainly carried by Yuri/Iris and Kyrie tho) so I'm not going to complain. Even about knights, there's just not much we can expect anymore.
Frankly, I really feared the movies would suck, after all Bitch-kun shills them like crazy, but Detonation ended up well, it was a relief.

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I see Bitch-kun is back. It was so nice for a while without him around.

A's was the peak of the franchise to me, but I've never seen a single Nanoha related media that I didn't really like. She's amazing in ALL of her different forms.

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You misunderstood me user, we claim that you are the one pretending to be mentally disabled, while in fact hosting a real mental issue.

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We need to make sure to not reply to him.
If you need to poke fun, limit it to 1 reply and don't go into a chain please.
BTW, you guys noticed the parallels here?
Who is the OTP in the end, Yuri-Iris or Kyrie-Iris?

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>A's was the peak of the franchise to me, but I've never seen a single Nanoha related media that I didn't really like. She's amazing in ALL of her different forms.
This for me too. While I didn't like some aspects of Innocent that much for example, but it was still nice to read it.

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>If you need to poke fun, limit it to 1 reply
It's far better not to reply to him at all. There's no need. It's trivial to troll him without talking to him directly. Here, watch.

That's such a great shot of Iris's cleavage. I'm so glad they're still including adult modes even in content set long before StrikerS. They know what people want.

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>i have no standards, i'm such a model person
People say this and then have the gall to complain about the franchise being rebooted.

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>we

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I hope bitch-kun doesn't remember that this picture drama was narrated by StrikerS characters, if he does I'm sure he will have to reply.

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>gosh i'm such a troll
Like I said earlier, the priorities of these people. Talking about Nanoha in a Nanoha thread? Who would want that, right?

Just another reason why rebooting was the right decision.

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>That's such a great shot of Iris's cleavage. I'm so glad they're still including adult modes even in content set long before StrikerS.
Her irises are cute. I hope you are looking her in the eyes!

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I'm surprised that tweet didn't kill him. He was strangely absent when it was first posted

You seem worried about the thread. Which is weird considering you're using it as a dumping ground for fanfiction. Bit incongruous, ain't it.

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Why is there cum on her face?

That's the impression you give to users and mods of this site.

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Please, user. You're not fooling anyone.

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> you're using it as a dumping ground for fanfiction.
That's an ironic thing to say while posting fanfiction yourself.

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Where? I've only posted stuff taken from and/or based on canon Nanoha content. Unlike you.

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I was really pleasantly surprised with the movies. I thought StrikerS was decent but Vivid was way too boring for me to finish. I'm glad the movies felt like I was watching A's again. I hope whatever they decide to continue with won't be related to Vivid.

>Where? I've only posted stuff taken from and/or based on canon Nanoha content.
You literally just defined fanfiction.

The fights in Detonation were nice but the story felt all over the place. Reflection and Detonation did too much too fast, especially with introducing the characters. Okay Kyrie is the bad guy. SIKE just kidding Iris is the real bad guy. SIKE just kidding, the real bad guy is Maxwell. I found it hard to care about any of the new characters.

Also Detonation got dark really fast. All of a sudden there is blood and gore? People got shot in the head, impaled through the chest, and just generally died? In the end Nanoha's arm got fucking blown off? Not that I mind, I do remember the first season being somewhat dark, especially the parts with Precia but it just took me by surprise because they had kind of moved away from that. In the later works, people just got knocked out or badly hurt, even the TSAB mooks were usually just immobilized.

You shouldn't worry. They can no longer afford to do random stupid fucking shite that nobody asked for. The next installment might keep taking stuff from the old, shit canon but it will undoubtedly be a continuation of Detonation.

But how could the canon, the TRUE sequel to A's be fanfiction? That doesn't make sense!

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>In the later works
The ones that are fucking awful? Oh yeah they should keep in line with those, it's not like those dead-ended the franchise.

Well that's good. I wouldn't mind if they continued from StrikerS but I hope we actually get a season now instead of movies. Reflection and Detonation definitely had more potential but they had to rush a lot of points so it didn't feel very impactful. Remember how shit A's movie was if you haven't watched the TV series before, that movie was definitely made for people who have already seen the TV series beforehand. Reflection and Detonation felt like that too, a big, somewhat of a decent story told in a very fast pace so you couldn't really care for the events too much.

What are you trying to say here? Even in the first series, it didn't go this far. Precia was the only one who died. By the time it got to A's everyone was befriended aside from Reinforce who faded away peacefully. In Strikers only like 2 of the robot girls died. Jail himself was arrested, just like Maxwell was in this movie. And I doubt the reason the franchise dead ended was a lack of violence. Nobody was saying, yeah put more blood in Nanoha or I'm moving on.

StrikerS? I don't know, you're the one making that claim.

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I thought the Materials were kind of stupid. To begin with, their designs as palette swaps of the main cast just reeks of laziness, even with in universe explanations. And then they turned out to be cats? Fucking cats?

I feel like StrikerS was animated with the intention of having deaths, Ginko getting destroyed, the Chiwa Saito voiced cyborg getting vaporized, Vita impaled. They just wrote it away everytime someone took fatal looking damage. Feels almost like a corporate decision but I'd have no idea.

The end of Detonation made me tear up.

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While I found the movie to be supreme regardless, I do agree that it feels like they plotted out a full season and then crammed it down to movie length. Two movies, to their credit, but still not quite enough.
I'm fine with more movies though, like you, I'd much rather a full season of good Nanoha now that we can finally have her again.

wrong post quoted ayyy

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I hope they do go back to Strikers again. It was pretty good for what it was, but they could tweak it around some and make it a lot better.

Worth it to hear Yukari Tamura's serious voice.

What about ShitterS? Nobody's talking about that, I'm talking about the proper, the ACTUAL canon piece of Nanoha that follows A's.

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Don't respond.
Vivid stuff could be good too if it wasn't about tournaments but they made it about some incident. There was plenty of plot hooks that could have been used for that. I even though it is preparing something like that, when reading it.

>It was pretty good
Said nobody ever.

They already confirmed in an official tweet that all the StrikerS characters are going to be in the next installment.

Yeah Materials were pretty fucking stupid. I was expecting some actual developments about their existence rather than them being some cats
Vivid to me lacked any real feeling of threat because there were way too many people in the main cast and it felt too slice of lifey, there's nothing wrong with slice of life shows mind you, they're just not for me.

>Vivid stuff could be good too
If you want ebin shonenshit muh mega fist friendship power times 20 then go read Dragon Ball Z, faggot.

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Their backstory in the games made more sense. Dunno why they didn't go with that.

Really? When was that announced?

StrikerS was pretty good yeah but it would be fucking awful as a movie. They need a new season for it and they need to fix some of the stuff in it like you said. That had tons of potential too.

>they now have to resort to actual lies
This is the power of reboots.

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>Nanoha as Hayate looks cool
>Hayate as Nanoha looks like shit

sasuga

I feel like it would have had more impact if we had spent more time with Nanoha, you know, the supposed main character of the series. But both movies were crammed full of trying to give us the backstory of Kyrie, Amitie, their parents, Iris, Yuri, Dearche, Stern, Levi, Maxwell and the planet saving committee, that Nanoha herself kind of fell by the wayside. She felt more like a plot device then a character. And the attempt at the end where she talks to herself didn't feel earned, probably because we didn't spend a lot of time with her beforehand.

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Comparing the new movies to the later, shit entries when it's clearly not trying to be like them is retarded.

It wasn't like any of the earlier entries either. When the scientists were getting slaughtered seemed really out of place. Like okay the guy snapped but he shot his (wife?) through the head? When they are shown getting along well all throughout that?

>Ginko getting destroyed
I'm glad they didn't go through with it
>Vita impaled
I'm glad they didn't go through with it
>Chiwa Saito voiced cyborg getting vaporized
Okay I could live with that, since she was quite evil
But hey, Nanoha was always about the good ends and great feelings when people are saved (the Detonation movie even put that out explicitly in Nanoha'S monologue). They are upbeat, heartwarming stories, that's why always disliked BetraeyerS

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>リリカルライブ
Only a newfag that defends ShitterS would not understand what this means.

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It's convoluted as shit and pretty retarded. You must be pretty retarded yourself to not understand why they didn't go through with it.

I don't suppose there is a translation somewhere?

The first season is my favorite thinks to all the Shinbo shenanigans even though A's is a way better story

>probably because we didn't spend a lot of time with her beforehand.
Maybe if you're a newfag. R+D are very clearly aimed at the people who WOULD have spent a lot of time with Nanoha. Those who still stand up for S1 and A's and have clamored for a proper sequel since forever.

Maybe because I had just finished watching everything else, it really got to me. It brought back memories of everything past.
I wouldn't call her a plot device, though she didn't have any connection to the Eltoria plot. Nanoha was at the same place she was in A's. Static character but not a plot device.

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I have similar opinion. Cutting out parts of plot to make a movie already had questionable effect on S1 and it was obvious it sucks for S2/As. StrikerS is even longer so it could end up rather meh. Or possibly not if say two-parter, but still, I think it would only be satisfactory in the animation department while story would be worse.

And there would be nothing new to expect/be thrilled about. IMHO make a new story, that is much better, if risky.

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>implying ShitterS could be worse when it's already the worst anime ever made
And anyway, they already fixed it. When they decided it's no longer canon and just a piece of fanfiction, that fixed all of it.

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They probably aren't making StrikerS recap movies. That's just something people keep speculating about since they've already been speculating about it for 7 years ever since 2nd. It's probably going to be something new. But nobody has anything to speculate about that since it could be just about anything.

Yeah, I have no doubt it would look really good but just the finale of StrikerS would warrant a movie and that finale was heavily connected to the events that took place throughout the show, events that you can't really skip without messing everything up. I want to see that legendary scene of Nanoha shooting Teana in high quality too but it just wouldn't be a good movie/s overall.

>They probably aren't making StrikerS recap movies.
*definitely
And they've been proved wrong every single time. It's time they learned already.

>bunch of wow wow blinky lights and beating up literal whos
We already have that but a million times better and canon.

>anything in ShitterS
>legendary
lmao

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Yeah and so this Nanoha self hating thing came out of left field cause it's not really an issue in any of the other mediums you fucking retard. If it was something they wanted to introduce in these two movies, from a story standpoint they should have set it up better. You know who would work better for it? Fate. But see Fate developed, we saw her at the beginning, being hated by her mother and hating herself for it. The series progresses and Fate learns to love herself and others. That's how you do it. You don't ignore the character for two movies and at the end have her talk all of a sudden to her younger self who says "You don't like yourself very much do you?" It's fucking shit writing.

Right, the only thing for certain is that it's going to have the StrikerS *cast*. So it'll definitely be something from that era but maybe not retelling the original season.

>Right, the only thing for certain is that it's going to have the StrikerS *cast*.
>Source: My infinite ass

Well gee user, it's almost like the true franchise order is S1->A's->Reflection->Detonation like everyone's been telling you for months.

But no you're not the problem, the movie is the problem, of course.

These things with Nanoha feeling useless or "not belonging into her family"* and now the "you hate yourself" were always there. I recall it from S1, from Movie 1st manga, they always had it there to make Nanoha a bit deeper. I think it just always felt a bit convoluted/forced (I mean, not fitting with the story/character much), which might be why it never stuck with us and we always go "WTF" when the theme reappears. But it is not a new line.

* particularly this feels dumb, because her family is painted as extremely nice and caring, so there is no way a kid would go existential like that, really. It didn't fit, but hey, they want it there. Perhaps we can believe that it happens for mysterious reasons now and there.

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dead franchise

How are the [CSW] subs?

>I think it just always felt a bit convoluted/forced
>It didn't fit
No, you're just an idiot. They go into quite a bit of detail to make it believable, without going into episode 3's whole deal. Again, you're an idiot and likely a speedwatcher.

Are you LRD? Who are you slapping down every criticism of the new movies and calling others newfags for it like we haven't all been following Nanoha from the beginning (because face it, that's all who watches Nanoha now since the franchise is almost dead). Calling people names and yelling at them, like THESE MOVIES ARE THE CONTINUATION OF THE TRUE CANON WE DESERVED SINCE A'S like shut the fuck up seriously. The battle scenes were great in A's and yeah the movies had great ones too, and yeah StrikerS was a bit disappointing. But you sound like a fucking Fate/Zero secondary, with the how you harp on just one aspect of the franchise instead of the whole. EVERY FATE MATERIAL SHOULD BE JUST LIKE ZERO AND EVERY NANOHA MATERIAL SHOULD BE JUST LIKE A'S. And just cause the movies had great battle scenes and we're all happy to get new Nanoha content doesn't mean we can't point out the flaws in storytelling. You wanna call me a newfag? I bet you don't even recognize this picture you absolute fucking nigger.

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>speed watcher

Reflection and Detonation saved it, though.

Well fuck Bitch-kun but I'd say it's not guaranteed. They might just be there for celebrations and events, it is still possible for them to not be in a potential new movie, or series.

BTW what about Mamiko Noto and other Vivids? Inori Minase and Yui Ogura? Are they absent?

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Terrible. The guy doesn't even know the basics of timing or typesetting and adds a bunch of TL mistakes without fixing any.

Get [Ron], he translated it for us slobs from scratch to fix all the mistakes in the official subs and the video is flawless as far as I can tell (and I'm an encoder, so I would spot if stuff was seriously wrong).

The movie has problems. It's not the flawless 10/10 you drooling retards seem to think it is. The pacing is fucked because they tried to do too much too fast and introduce too many new characters. That's a valid complaint. Nanoha suddenly hating herself and wanting to die, no matter how much you protest, was not a feature of S1 or A's. Christ I liked the movies too but this immediate defense force that lashes out at everyone and everything is a bit much eh?

Most likely not. We call this spammer Bitch-kun and LRD is probably the only person that would not mind him.

Right, thanks.

Meant for the series, not the movies.

I just explained why that particular criticism is not applicable in this case.

Also yes Reflection and Detonation are the continuation of the true canon we deserved since A's and yes every Nanoha material should be like S1 and/or A's, sue me.

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For Season1 and 2, I recommend RG-AF (DVDrips). The BDs have filtering that makes them look worse, It kills the prettyness of the original in sublte ways IMHO:
StrikerS looked better on the blurays, so for that they might be ok. I watched Taedium DVDrips, but those sadly have the next-ep previews cut off. (I downloaded Coldlight for those)

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>defense force
It's literally 1 guy

>It's not the flawless 10/10
Nobody said it was you dingbat. How about you calm the fuck down and try to understand why exactly people are criticizing your criticisms? It's not because the movie is perfect, of course it fucking isn't, it's not A's, it can't be perfect.

>Nanoha suddenly hating herself and wanting to die, no matter how much you protest, was not a feature of S1 or A's.
And that's not what's going on at all, you're just fucking dumb.

>StrikerS
Meant for the series, not your fanfiction.

>The problem is with you not the movie
Yeah bro, you're not people, you're just one angry faggot and you're not criticizing, you're just zealously defending the movies. And maybe in your blind devotion, you didn't see the end where she literally was about to give up and die because she didn't like herself until her younger self told her not to give up.

GOD I AM SO HAPPY I FINALLY GET TO SEE MY LESBIAN CYBORG AND HER GIRLFRIEND AGAIN.

>I bet you don't even recognize this picture you absolute fucking nigger.
Nice, saved, thanks.
It's crazy how deep a track has Fate left in anime character designs. Is there some more story to this pic?

In a Lyrica Live.
Enjoy it while the adults among us get new movies and seasons.

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She doesn't WANT to die, you fucking monkey. Her self-worth is all messed up from really wanting a place to belong, and having found it in being the hero that helps everyone, which makes her push herself beyond her limits and endanger her own life without really thinking about what's she even doing.

You're just fucking dumb.

If it’s the tweet I’m thinking of it just says that the cast of StrikerS is gonna be at the event in January, which is huge considering that the cast of Vivid and Vivid Strike ARENT gonna be there, leading to speculation that they’re gonna announce a StrikerS reboot, possibly in the form of a movie.

A long, long, time ago, there was a drawfag called Nanoha. He was easily the most skilled drawfag I'd seen then or since, although I don't really check drawfag threads anymore. I requested this drawing from him and he obliged, although he just did the lines and I think someone else colored. Here's another variation by another colorfag.

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This. Your assessment here is spot on I think. It's better to ignore everything that faggot posts and not reply to anything, because he will always reply to everything but it's all no u rants - waste of time, waste of posts. And makes the thread harder to read for others.

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>some people are busy and won't make it there
>OMGWTFBBQ MUH STRIKERS
Boy am I looking forward to see you all crushed again when it turns to be literally nothing yet again.

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>gets destroyed
>"j-just don't reply h-haha"

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She was literally about to drift off into the darkness until her younger self intervened and told her to stay alive. You'd have to be Helen Keller to not get any of that.

Hey Bitch-kun, that’s not me speculating, that’s the Nips speculating and getting excited. You wanna destroy the hopes of Nip fans asshole?

>wants ShitterS
>fan
Pick one. They're a bunch of worthless seiyuubuta.

Damn that's from draw thread here?
> the most skilled drawfag I'd seen then or since
no shit, no shit. That's fucking cool.

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Because she thought she would die. And then she broke down crying because she didn't want to die, Miss Helen Keller.

bitch-kun is completely blind to anything but his own delusions. Quit expecting anything else and quit replying to him.

My time isn't valuable and I'll gladly show this fucking idiot that he's wrong. Zero secondaries are a cancer on the Fate franchise, I'll be damned if I suffer one in Nanoha threads. You can have Zero be your favorite and you can have A's be your favorite. but they aren't the be all end all. If you say you love the franchise but hate everything that isn't one specific part of the franchise you can't really love the franchise can you?

>wow your fanfic is amazing
>good thing we can use the nanoha thread to not talk about nanoha

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So much better that all of them got beaten off-screen. I ordinarily try not to reply to you but are you seriously saying these wastes of time are better than anything? I'd take the fucking Huckebein Family over clone bosses with no character.

I like the doujins where fate is fucked by a guy and his son

Well I hope something Strikers related comes from them all being there. It seems like the perfect time to announce something.

>being this mad that he doesn't get Nanoha, of all things
Go back to the MMA shit, that's clearly more your speed, kid.

fuck, I saved a bitch-kun picture. The association usually kills their appeal.

Anybody knows what the old drunkard Letti is saying?

who is bitch-kun?

Au contraire, if you say you love a franchise but want it to be anything else BUT itself, you don't really love the franchise. How can you say you love Nanoha when you don't want her to be action mahou shoujo, but would rather her change herself into MMA shit? Or into a cooking show? Or into a dating app?

No, sir. You're the one with no love for the franchise.

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Autistic lolicon that gets really anal if you mention anything post A's that isn't Reflection/Detonation in a positive light. Also has shit taste in Nanoha and doesn't seem to get the concept of character growth or development.

This I think was before even drawthreads were a regular thing. It might have just been a random draw thread. I don't know if he's still around, that particular picture is literally a decade old. He also did this one, including the coloring. Nanoha (the artist) was a fucking madman.

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Adult Nanoha is better than Loli Nanoha

Where did I say that I liked Vivid or Vivid Strike? No wonder you missed everything in the movies, your reading comprehension sucks. Are you ESL?

>this coming from ShitterS defenders, which takes a big smelly poopoo all over Nanoha's character
>while Reflection and Detonation take Nanoha's character development from S1 and actually expand on it somewhat

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the new movies were fucking awful

retard in these (probably not exhaustive list) posts.
Has been spamming his crap for 2.5 years like this, almost every Nanoha thread.
I'm not autistic I swear, I just had his posts hidden so easy to click them en masse

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They're much better than the giant piles of garbage that only exist to shill the equally-shitty next gen fuckos.

>Where did I say that I liked Vivid or Vivid Strike?
You don't even know what your own argument was. That's a new one.

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I see that you're men of refined tastes as well.

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Meh this fag is nothing. I was around for LRD and I'll be around long after this new kid gets tired of his own autism.

That was such a sad NTR, family destroying doujin series.

Nah, the new movies are the best since A's.

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I can't wait to see where the fanficfaggots will hide after they announce the Detonation sequel, which will retain loli Nanoha because that's the only one that's good. And has a future.

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My argument was (originally) that the new movies had great action but that the storytelling was rushed to accommodate the slew of new characters. Also that Nanoha suddenly wanting to die was out of place given there was zero buildup to it. Yours seems to be DONT INSULT MY PRECIOUS MOVIES. Your zealotry isn't appreciated.

Dunno, I remember LRD (I got stuck here because of Ron's Vivid fansubs, bleh), he wasn't this annoying iirc, at least in 2015+
Of course that was a fucking cretin too.

He even had the decency to position Fate's leg so that her leotard pantsu isn't visible.

It's faded from your memory. If you so much as posted a picture of Nanoha or Fate that wasn't from the first two seasons, he (or people like him) would spaz the fuck out. Myself, I always wanted to see high school Nanoha or Fate. And people who scream "NOT CANON" at StrikerS have literally been around since the first episode aired.

And that argument has already been discussed separately. Your new argument seemed to be that a "true" fan should be a sheep that accepts being shat on. Then your Alzheimer's kicked in and you went even more full retard than before. That's not appreciated either but that doesn't seem to stop you.

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at least can we agree that adult Fate >>>> loli Fate right?

Yeah but you get a peek of nipple. Look at both pics, its there. Inb4 newfag Mods ban me.

DID THE MOVIES FLOP?

I like Strikers but I wouldn't go that far. I do like adult Fate a little bit more than younger Fate though.

No but we can all agree that You =

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Definitely.

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Not sure if yelling on a Burmese carpet making signboard counts as discussion. And while I have been here for a long time, obviously longer than you, I don't think I'm old enough to have Alzheimer yet. Nanoha isn't for your generation, liking stuff the others don't won't make you popular among other Zoomers.

In your dreams. They singlehandedly saved Nanoha from the brink of obscurity.

What a gross fanfic.

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Oh hoh. It was not exactly where I expected. Tastefully showing nipples don't feel that undignifying to me tho, somehow hope I'm not deluding myself.
Fate miracle of the universe, pure even if married, our knight and prince.

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>Not sure if yelling on a Burmese carpet making signboard counts as discussion.
You tell me, you're the one going
>EVERY FATE MATERIAL SHOULD BE JUST LIKE ZERO AND EVERY NANOHA MATERIAL SHOULD BE JUST LIKE A'S

>Zoomers
You HAVE to go back.

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yes

I never said I was making discussion. I'm just trying to trigger an autist. It's clearly working.

These movies literally killed Nanoha franchise.

This feels like it should be a reaction face for something, just not sure what.

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>i was actually shitposting all along! a-ha!
Coward.
Oh well, you can't expect much from Detonation haters. There's been plenty of threads that prove it.

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>it's so dead that we're getting a Detonation sequel next year and loli Nanoha will stay forever
God, I love dead franchises.

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At least I'm not using images of our beloved characters to do it. You're literally avatarfagging at this point, why not adopt a trip while you're at it?

>beloved characters
>i'm happy that strikers destroyed them all

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Never said I hated Detonation, just that the story felt weak. Loved the action scenes though.

Hell to the yeah

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Never said that either. But I also wouldn't say StrikerS destroyed them. Seems a little extreme.

Fate is a female. This fanfic fanart makes me sick.

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I thought it was lame, unimaginative and incredibly vapid. I never got further than the jabroni boasting about getting the last laugh or whatever his dumb motive was.

White cape Fate is so goddamn cool.

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>But I also wouldn't say StrikerS destroyed them.
Of course you wouldn't. Nothing that hag-ifies characters is bad for you.

Fate's non-ero StrikerS Barrier Jacket is the best in this franchise. #1 total.

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I think this post is lame, unimaginative and incredibly vapid. I never got further than the part with the meaningless buzzwords or whatever your shit complaints were.

>hurr i love fate
>what? canon fate? what the fuck is that, my OC that pretends to be fate is way better

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Tho I think that is actually her Force appearance.
She didn't have enough TSAB funding for dual gauntlets yet.

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I finally watched Detonation last night, it was pretty amazing. I wish Nanoha didn't need Feito-chan's help to beat the guy in the end though, Nanoha being a godlike genius still always gets me pumped up.

See again, you're just going with visuals since you clearly don't care about story or character traits or anything more nuanced then what you can see on the screen. We could just put a bunch of loli characters on screen fighting and you'd probably be okay. Forget dialogue, music, and plot, those things are not important right? There's an entire genre of mindless action that you can get your fix from, no need to come to this franchise to shit things up.

I felt the opposite, I was disappointed that Fate didn't get a powerup as well. I like Nanoha and Fate as a team, or even when Fate is a little stronger than Nanoha as she was in the first season.

Fate is beautiful in all of her forms.

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I love them

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Hmm, I guess it is Force+Reflection stockings. Adult modes in Movie 5th you heard it here first

Or no actually. Fuck, those stockings change a lot, I can't keep track.

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>Shitid exists
>nobody likes it because it's FUCKING shit
Next.

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Vivid barely had any budget. The fights weren't even good.

Oh no, it's the ShitterSfaggot with the spotless track record on predictions. Like that time he predicted Movie 3rd wasn't going to be about the Materials and then it wasn't!

>i love nanoha
>posts a made up form that doesn't exist in canon
You can just feel the love.

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That Blast Calamity attack is great though. It would be a shame if it was not there.
Fate did too little in the movies already.
Actually, I wish she showed up to save Nanoha from the explosion.
"If you are in danger, I'll come flying to your aid"
I guess it would clash with Nanoha's "I'm going to die" thought, but perhaps it could be made to work together.

She showed up to save Nanoha from dying in space, is that not good enough for you?

More like it didn't have any effort.
>hurr MMA shit
>and then there's a tournament
>and then there's a tournament
>and then there's a tournament
>and then there's a tournament
I can only imagine what kind of person would defend it.

Was not as cool as if it was in time. Also, she wasn't even there sooner than Hayate, which makes no sense if Fate is supersonic.

>Also, she wasn't even there sooner than Hayate
How the fuck do you know that? When Nanoha came to, they were both already there.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone defend Vivid.

What is the point of Bardiche if he doesn't talk? Get a new VA or throw it out, and since we're slowly phasing out the devices, replace it with some other gimped non-babbling weapon like all the other background characters, maybe rven the cruddy pistols that are all the rage.

Why are they all so stacked?

You must be new.

Would be nice amongst other things for one reason: upgraded barrier jackets.

I'd still like to see Force TV anime. Or two-part movie.

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Because normalfag pandering to make money.

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It will happen, and it will have loli Nanoha, and it will finally be good.

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I like it. The belkan memories story had great atmosphere. They just fucked up by making it go in weird direction after volume 12 instead of picking up from it with a serious story, using the witch, axe lady, Sieg, Einhart, Vivio and friends.
My favourite would be to tie it together with Force eventually to end up in a single incident a battle.

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How did they get away with this?

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>in this day and time, some literally whos had some ebin tea party
Oh yeah, "great" "atmosphere". Sure was worth it wasting 7 years of everyone's time and eroding the franchise's reputation.

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Fixed.

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>What did you think of the new movies?
God awful. Everything that is wrong with the franchise crammed into a couple hours. Constantly stretching things out by adding new characters instead of developing existing ones or designing storylines that aren't completely straightforward, retarded powercreep that makes everyone who isn't brand new or a main character completely irrelevant, spreading screentime around to the horribly bloated cast so much that the important bits have to get crammed into a few lines of internal monologue, total lack of fight choreography in favor of randomly colliding lights and beamspam, all of the villains being innocent misunderstood girls who were just tricked into attempting mass murder and will happily turn coat once they're defeated except the one comically evil big boss who is just doing it because, total lack of commitment on whether it wants to be a male-free yuri-pandering series or not, and a complete lack of consequences where everything always returns to the status quo, but with even more unnecessary characters it'll have to shove in somewhere next time.

I thought they might have finally learned their lesson after Vivid Strike managed to mostly avoid this shit, but apparently not. As soon as Nanoha is back in the picture, we have to go back to the same unsustainable formula that's been hampering the series since As. Poor girl just can't catch a break.

what the fuck is your obsession with cooking shows

It's just a good, easy-to-understand example.

The OP thumbnail makes it look like Nanoha has semen on her face.

>defends Vivid Strike
You're not worth a rebuttal. You're wrong.

>Nanoha not thinking about Fate when she was thinking it's the end was a slip-up.
Despite the overwhelming number of fans who insist on it being canon, the show itself has always been very careful to never actually commit to this, or any other, Nanoha ship. Even if the fanbase is probably preventing them from doing anything else, I doubt they'll ever actually go down that path.

No user you just dont get it. Michael Bay's Nanoha is the saviour of the franchise according to the local messiah, and we're apparently back on track. We didn't even get a henshin.

The plot being convoluted and all over the place is not uncommon in the clusterfuck that is Nanoha though.

If you hate Nanoha so much that you'd rather she be MMA shit or, worse, a cooking show, you can just say that. You don't need to hide behind me.
>We didn't even get a henshin.
It's almost like there wasn't time between all the PLOT.
We got 3 in Reflection and 4 more in the Reflection manga, stop crying.

It was probably the best direction the franchise could have taken at that point. The setting made the idea of befriending opponents make sense because it was just a sport, it took advantage of the variety of magic instead of just being displays of raw power, it brought the cast down to a manageable size while still allowing reasonable cameos, and the dumb adult transformations let them pander to lolicons and oppaifags. It's a damn shame that they lost direction after Einhart resolved her arc and resorted to throwing new characters at everything until the cast was even larger than the original series.

>Constantly stretching things out by adding new characters instead of developing existing ones
This to me was a big issue with the movie. We have all these supposedly sad and tragic backstories and it's just too difficult to care or get emotionally invested when it comes from 10 characters getting introduced at the same time and we're supposed to care for all of them in some way. It was mentally demanding in StrikerS, and it was just as exhausting in ViVid.

>turning action magical girl into MMA is "the best direction the franchise could take"
How do max faggots like you even get into Nanoha?

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>It's almost like there wasn't time between all the PLOT.
Essentially the same thing happens 4 times in this movie. Yuri gets defeated by Nanoha -> regroup
Yuri gets defeated by Nanoha -> regroup
Yuri gets defeated by dearche, then evilman who was completely irrelevant up until 3/4 Into the movie shows up after regrouping and gets defeated by Nanoha.

I know you're all about the waifufaggotry and sick explosions, but some actually enjoy the "mahou" aspect and wish it not entirely abandoned.

They already committed in the original timeline and in Innocent they even made Vivio their biological daughter. Also Nanoha did think of Fate in that scene of the movie.

This seems pretty mahou to me.
Also at least things are happening. Unlike le ebin training session in which nothing happens in a timespan longer than these movies.

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You're probably replying to the yuri denying user that rambles about the same shit every other thread.
Don't even bother.

I've tried to watch the movies, but I just do not care about Kyrie and Amita and the other new characters. They do not interest me. Nothing about their struggles is engaging or emotionally captivating.

I do think that Blue Feito is really cute.

Should I power through anyway? Are the setpiece fights good enough?

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Get some fucking taste.

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Give me one good reason to care about these two.

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Kyrie wants to protect her world.
So does Iris or so we thought

Maybe you'd rather if they were in some MMAshit infinite tournament arc instead?

I just think they're boring.
I never watched Vivid, so I can't comment on that branch of the franchise.

Vivid season 2 fucking when?

Never and that's a fucking good thing. Fuck off.

They'll probably announce it soon

Yeah, remember how they were supposed to announce it "soon" for the last few years?
Some idiots just never learn.

frames

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I've felt the same. Probably because it's in a movie and Kyrie and Amita's character and the plot development develops in breakneck speeds, similar to the plot pacing issues in the A's movie and unlike the A's movie the new movies don't have a consistent level of engaging fight scenes save for a few so they even miss on that end.

Box Office wise I think they did average or below average. They didn't do as well as Bitch-kun would make you think

>over 4 million bucks
IN
YOUR
DREAMS

Dollars or Yen, bitch-kun? Cause 4 million Yen isn't much, and if its in dollars you're definitely gonna need to post a source to back that up.

Of course it's dollars, you dumb git.
And you can look it up yourself, it actually wasn't hard to find.

Yeah no I've searched for it, couldn't find it. So unless you provide a source from Eleven Arts stating official Box Office numbers, you're talking out of your ass once again.

You suck.
lmgtfy.com/?q=box office nanoha reflection
lmgtfy.com/?q=box office nanoha detonation
lmgtfy.com/?q=nanoha reflection merchandise sales
It's literally the first link in each case.

It adds up to well over 4 million dollars, and once I find numbers for Detonation's merch sales, I have no doubt that number will climb to over 5 million.

That's still not very good, you realise right?

Reflection made about half of what 1st and 2nd did. We didn't even get specific numbers for Detonation, but we know that it didn't break the top 10 movies on its opening weekend like the other three did so it probably did quite a bit worse. So yeah, they did not do well at all.

>gets scared out of his ass and start demanding sauce
>receives sauce
>"it s-still not very g-good h-haha"

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>BTW what about Mamiko Noto and other Vivids? Inori Minase and Yui Ogura? Are they absent?
Not appearing, hence the speculation cause the Reflection/Detonation casts is going too.

Yeah, I knew it did below average, did we ever get merch sales reports?

>ignores all the numbers posted and goes "h-haha b-below average i k-k-knew it"
Do you see that, guys? It's afraid.

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I can't believe bardiche autism is still here. I think I started that shit years ago. How many lines does bardiche have again? It's a god damn shame they never continued with the weapons in the same way because they were some of the coolest things back in A's and the original series because of all the random things that somehow made it all just sort of make sense. Like how magic is manually inserted into the cartridges in the opening which sorta gives you the notion as to how they're dangerous and powerful. Not to mention how magic seems to have a similar ground but is different based on the user such as Nanoha's and Fate's smaller projectiles acting as manually controlled orbs for the former and an automatic tracking arrows for the latter or how they're function because they're different weapons or how Nanoha and Fate have barriers and the Belkans don't. It all just clicks somewhere. Whereas in Strikers and Vivid they barely give anything to how it all works and what is given is overshadowed by the myriad of new shit and dragons and roller skates and it all just comes off as fanfic tier powers and MAGIC.

I haven't watched the movies so I hope at least they give some world building reason to how shit works rather than as some MAGIC that just "werks."

Your "source" was just the search terms you wanted me to use. I used them and there was still nothing

I have to agree. The way her character develops is interesting and she makes for a wonderful mentor character that still kicks plenty of ass. Love her design too.

On the other hand, I definitely like younger Fate more. But the dynamic she has with Erio and Caro is cute, even if we barely see it.

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Teach a man to fish and all that.
I'm not going to spoonfeed you. That's how we get cancer that defends StrikerS. Besides, we have anons in full-on DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL SHUT IT DOWN mode already, so you know it's legit even if you yourself couldn't find it because you're useless.

>What do you think of Nanoha?
First few episodes was a total knock off of CardCaptor Sakura. Then the show went in the complete opposite direction seeing the male fanbase liked it more. While I applaud them for not just keeping it a CCS clone, the direction they took wasn't my thing.

>loses literally every trait that made her memorable and interesting
>"develop"
>"wonderful"
Can one day pass without ShitterSfaggots showing how little they know of Nanoha and/or how much they hate Nanoha herself that they want her to be someone else? I think not.

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When you make bold statements like that, you need to provide an actual source, not search terms

All their versions are the best.

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Is fate taller than Nanoha?

There's only one version, user.

Why do you want her to be different? Why can't you accept Nanoha the way she is? Tell us, why do you hate Nanoha?

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This is a fine view too.

Yes.

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Learn to use the Internet.

Yeah, but only a bit, Fate is just slightly above average height, and Nanoha is average.

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Cute handholding.

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Don't make bold statements like that without backing up your claims.

>wanting Nanoha to not be Nanoha is good
The best part is how they never explain themselves. They just fucking hate Nanoha and everyone else is supposed to accept it. Then they whine about how they don't fit in.

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Learn to use the Internet.

I did, and found nothing to back up your claim.

Still a surprise.

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Learn harder.

I only found an ANN article.

This reminds me, does someone have the Movie 2nd hand holding compilation webm?

You're making some progress, keep learning. Come on, other anons are damage controlling, you have no excuse.

That's the only thing though, and comparied to the other movies in the article it did shit

I'm sure we'll still be here when you're done learning so just take your time. You'll figure out how to use Google eventually.

consider the following:
>both prior movies had higher production values and longer runtimes, especially the movie 2nd, leading to more expenditures by comparison meaning that even if more money was made it was at a higher cost
>reflection and detonation production heavily piggybacked off of each other lowering overall costs
>relevancy of series was immensely higher back when the first two movies came out yet reflection and detonation still did well, were intended to come out sooner but the character designer is a busy nigger. production team knew the relevant risks and likely adjusted expectations accordingly
>movie 2nd was so bad that it probably impacted hopes people had for future movies, the sequel always takes the monetary hit for a bad entry following it
what they need to do is air another proper nanoha TV series to bring fresh viewers and old blood that didn't watch reflection/detonation back in, movies provide a barrier to entry unless people are already interested in the moment. vivid and vivid strike, no matter what you make of them, were not normal nanoha entries. the brand still has a lot of potential, they simply need to tap into it properly.

INCOMING STRIKERS TV REBOOT

I already explained all of this to them and they ignored it because "b-b-but i dont want muh hags to not be canon :(". But you're absolutely right, the line for what would be a flop is much lower for R+D.

Considering they even bothered pulling the movies out of development hell at this stage, I have faith that they'll do good with the Nanoha brand from now. The next thing will be a TV series that will continue the Detonation story and be a proper Nanoha TV entry for once and it'll be grand.

>he's still trying
You're just going to get burned, man. It'd be fucking hilarious though.

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>what they need to do is air another proper nanoha TV series to bring fresh viewers and old blood
That's pretty much already been confirmed with more StrikerS-related content of some sort coming up next. I doubt it's going to be a remake of anything we've already seen.

Remember when Movie 3rd was confirmed to not have Materials? Or when it was confirmed to be high school bullshit? Oh, these confirmations. They are so confirmative.

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Ignoring bitch-kun's inevitable reply to this post. How would you even do anything new with the StrikerS cast considering they also took a back seat when their focus was over?

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It seems like plenty of anons think they'll confirming yet another movie in January, but that seems like an incredibly stupid decision for several reasons. Anime movies based on existing franchises work because there are TV series acting as advertisements, there's a reason why series that wind up getting movies go back to the TV screen afterwards.

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Her VA will sepukku soon.

Here's a better question: Why?

Not expecting an answer, you seem more than content enough to run away from the truth.

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>but that seems like an incredibly stupid decision for several reasons
That didn't stop them when they decided to make ShitterS. Or Shitid Shite.

They don't have to stay in the back seat. Teana and Subaru both have front-line jobs in the military police. There are endless possibilities there that could easily incorporate as much or as little of the rest of the cast as they want. And that's just one starting point. We could just as easily begin with something going on with Caro, Erio, Lutecia, or a dozen different Vivids. It wouldn't even need to retcon Force, though doing so would open the door to infinitely more options.

That's why everyone just keeps mewling about StrikerS movies. It's the only thing we can even begin to make guesses about. But nobody saw Vivid Strike coming or had any clue what it'd be about until just a couple of weeks before it started.

The main timeline is on hold indefinitely due to Force being dropped, so whatever follows will inevitably be a continuation of Detonation's timeline. They have another chance to make right with the StrikerS crew. Personally I think Subaru and Teana were always handled well, Erio and Caro are the ones that need more building upon if they come back.

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I never liked Erio and Caro, but that may be a consequence of them being underdeveloped and I personally liked Subaru and Teana a lot more

Why aren't there more /m/ahou shoujo series?

>b-but muh stinkers
How about something new? Why should they be doing adaptations forever?

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she's good and the movies are good, in my opinion

Nice blog. Tell us more about which dA rejects you like.

You can only so so many new things until it gets stupid. I personally didn't like Vivid Strike except for that Rinne bullying scene, thought it was unnecessary and King Records shitty attempt at kicking Yukarin out for some new blood.

>The main timeline is on hold indefinitely due to Force being dropped, so whatever follows will inevitably be a continuation of Detonation's timeline.
Not necessarily, the main timeline already has a few branches, Force could be just one more of them or they can just pretend it never happened. Either way it seems like they don't have the intention of continuing the franchise in that continuity, if they continue Nanoha at all.

Nobody liked Vivid Strike except for newfags. And new things can still be new things with Nanoha in them. Like a totally new plot that happens shortly after Detonation involving, I dunno, mecha-like golems or something.

The main timeline is the Detonation timeline and they don't need to pretend ForEDGE didn't happen.

See, that's stupid. Mecha-golems would not fit in well.

I like them whenever they actually get screen/voicetime, which wasn't often. They usually got shafted pretty hard.

Wasn't it more of them trying to compensate for her wanting to leave more than them kicking her out? I doubt they WANTED that to happen.

Gears hardly seemed like much of a branch considering everything that happened in the main timeline afterwards happened after it too. Though it IS an alternate continuity that stays pretty close to the franchise's roots so who knows. Mostly I just don't see Tsuzuki wanting to throw out the Detonation timeline after he finally got his Force weapons he wanted so bad in.

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Yeah, the name of the timelines is not important, western fans usually call the original timeline that started with the Nanoha, A's, the A's manga and the drama cds the main timeline, but you can call it whatever you like as long as we understand each other.

Fair, it was just a silly example.

>Mostly I just don't see Tsuzuki wanting to throw out the Detonation timeline after he finally got his Force weapons he wanted so bad in.
I would consider that evidence of them scrapping the good things from something that they threw away.

>Mostly I just don't see Tsuzuki wanting to throw out the Detonation timeline after he finally got his Force weapons he wanted so bad in.
Yeah I agree, with the StrikerS cast being at the January event maybe he wants to try and include them in it too.

Imagine being this mega obsessed with some literally who event.

15 years is a huge milestone.

And?

Nanoha is celebrating it with a huge event

And?

They've got guests from the original, A's, StrikerS and Reflection/Detonation, but not Vivid or Vivid Strike

>bibio won't make it into the new continuity
They can't do this to us!

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Wait how tall is big Vivio? I remember seeing some height chart that had her a full head taller than Fate. Big girl.

Fuck Vivio

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Should have moved Fate's leg up a little.

amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=MED-CD2-32421

>The CD that has Fuuka and Rinne's songs on it is the one that will have more added in the future
WHAT DOES IT MEAN

>they do bring back the StrikerS cast and make a StrikerS movie
>but they excise anything that has to do with Shitio
Actually, I think I could live with it.

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Hand Raising Heart down to Vivio already, cowards.

Hand yourself down a bottomless pit, Nanoha hater.

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What would the purpose of that be? Vivio doesn't fight with lasers and Sacred Heart is already her device that she has a lot of compatibility with.

I love the series, even if it has a few lows here and there. I hope to see a Nanoha Force anime sometime.

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While I wish one would happen too, the way Detonation went means we probably won't. Iris's duplicates look exactly like the Raptors did, the weapons are similar, and the bit with Fate blocking Maxwell's attack is directly from Force as well.

But I'd always love to be proven wrong. Force would have worked so much better in an anime format, having it as a manga was a big mistake.

>Iris's duplicates look exactly like the Raptors did
I liked the Raptors more, seeing Lily act mother-like around them was cute.

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>Anime movies based on existing franchises work because there are TV series acting as advertisements
That logic kind of falls apart when shit like GuP gets a billion new movies but no new TV series

Adult Nanoha deserves to have a proper ending to her story. Force being on eternal hiatus just hurts.

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Vivio is a StrikerS character

It was a shitpost.

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Yukarin is immortal you faggot

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What kind of outfits are these? I've never seen Nanoha and Fate wear them before.

They're Lily and Isis's outfits, silly.

Who? Sorry I'm a newfag to the series. Only seen all the anime so far.

Characters from Nanoha Force, one of the manga entries (which is unfortunately unfinished, probably forever).

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Did you by any chance watch Vivid and then Vivid Strike directly after?

Choose

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Oh okay. I'll get to reading Force when I finish reading Vivid.
Yes, and for a few episodes I was very confused before someone explained to me that Vivid Strike is after the manga. I wonder why they didn't adapt the rest of Vivid into anime.

God I love adult Nanoha's sidetail.

Adult Nanoha's body is pure fucking sex

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>I wonder why they didn't adapt the rest of Vivid into anime.
Issues with Nanoha's voice actor, apparently. Vivid Strike seems like it was meant to be Vivid S2 (and was more or less announced as such) but then had to be turned into something that didn't feature Vivio's family. The manga's a fun read though.

I always thought Fate was the sexiest but damn that’s some good artwork

>I always thought Signum was the sexiest but damn that’s some good artwork
Fixed

A D U L T

Both of them are great.

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>I always thought Fate and Einhart was the sexiest
Fixed

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Nanoha went wrong in strikers and continued to be wrong in all further material by completely forgetting it's roots, as a shounen-eque mahou shoujo. By the time strikers came along it had completely rid itself of mahou shoujo themes and just became a genderbent shounen with open homosexuality. It should have kept the minor mahou shojou characteristics like a hetero romance that actually does play a role in the end, villains often being overly melodramatic tragedies bringing them to be villains, etc.

Adult-mode Einhart is insanely attractive, it's not fair.

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God bless StrikerS and it's timeskip

the NTR milf doujins are pretty hot.

t. yuuno

sauce

Is it illegal to fuck Adult-mode Einhart?

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The TSAB is very understanding when it comes to circumstances outside of people's control leading them to do illegal things. One look at EInhart and they would immediately release you.

nanoha was super robot wars with magical girls from the start

As long as she consents it’s all good

Realistically is there any chance the next movie actually ends up focusing on NanoFate romance this time? Or is that something that would be saved for the end of the series?

They'll always skirt around it in the actual series material to satiate the few otaku who won't accept it, unfortunately.

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Why is Fate cheating on Nanoha?

They literally went out of their way to retconn Yuuno completely from the series simply to add as much yuri as possible for the first two movies. Despite it being canon to the main series since it's used as training material for the StrikerS cast. At this point Innocent is the only source material for Nanoha that hasn't been adapted yet & Fate literally confesses her love to Nanoha in that. So it could easily happen

Yuuno has not been retconned out of anything, weirdo.

He's barely even in the movies now, he's literally been reduced to Alisa & Suzaka tier by the 3rd movie.

He wasn't relevant after A's ended in the main timeline either.

>Very late to the party
You should kill yourself but there you are.
And idiots reply to your thread, and spoonfeed every newfaggotry's ass each single time.

it´s a girl

Has anyone ever dicked a lesbian into bisexuality?

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I have user, most lesbians are bisexual

Imagine a threesome with them

Maybe, but Fate is a yandere & would literally kill Nanoha before she allowed her to cheat on her

I think you've got that backwards.

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It's worth noting that this was literally written by the creator of Nanoha & is considered canon

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Shirou

>Both Nanoha AND Fate would kill the other if they cheated
Perfection.

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> Literally so strong that she can effortlessly destroy any character at this point of the series
> Works her students to the bone & trains them to an insane degree 24/7
> Has a dominant personality & doesn't take shit from anyone
> Somehow ends up being the submissive housewife
Explain this Yea Forums

>no more vivid life scanslations
feels bad man

This, it's basically like Lambda & Bern in Umineko, both would just kill the other in their sleep if they found out they were cheated on

Nanoha made my dick extremely erect.
Then she became a shitty hag.

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Which makes it pierce through the ceiling, right?

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More Vivid Strike would be fun.

But how can they kill anyone as they're being conceptually choked by Rot Spinne?

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No. Shitty hags makes me flaccid.

Is this (You)?

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I want to pierce adult Nanoha and Fate with my dick

I'm honestly confused at how Vivio was actually Nanoha & Fate's biological child in the alternate timeline manga series. Like how the fuck did that even work, did Fate just magically grow a dick somehow?

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I want a NanoFateHayate threesome

No, Nanoha did.

Yes, but i'm not sure when they would have time to fuck that much when Hayate literally sleeps in the same bed as them. Do Nanoha & Fate just have regular threesomes with Hayate?

Yes

>Vivio doesn't fight with lasers
Divine Buster and Sacred Blazer.
Also there are her magic bullets: Sonic Shooter and Flash Bullet.

According to their voice actresses Nanoha & Fate have sex sessions every day from 10:00 PM to 1:00 AM. So they probably just take turns on who's top & bottom

How the fuck can you have sex for three hours every night?

Fate's skintight outfit is the best thing to come out of this franchise and awakened the skintight body suit fetish in me.

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Magic shenanigans probably

Is this offical art?

I'm more confused on how they managed to keep their relationship a secret despite constantly fucking every night for three hours. Surely someone would have noticed the cumstains on the bed or heard the extremely loud moaning. Were people just so scared of Nanoha that they didn't even bother to ask about it?

Fuji drew it so yes it is.

Forgot to post picture, they literally only sleep 6 hours a day because the other 3 hours are spent having sex

The real question is does Vivio know about their intense sex every night?

Yes, unless they somehow managed to do it while Vivio is asleep
> Fate seems to have difficulties waking up the morning. I think she has low blood pressure "giggles". She routinely moans “U~n” in the bed when Nanoha says “Fate-chan, it’s morning.” - Fate's Voice Actress

Better question, does Vivio join in using her Adult Mode?

Vivio is a good girl and doesn't misuse adult mode

She would never

Fuck, last few threads have been very peaceful and comfy because this cunt wasn't here, I was happy thinking he died already.

I’ve always wondered why the Manga & doujins always portray Hayate as some kind of sex fiend. Despite her not even being shipped with anyone

When we get Adult Nanoha content again I’m hoping her finally necks himself over it

I honestly love both versions of Nanoha but I want Adult Nanoha to come back just so this faggot can possibly end it and give me the opportunity to read good Nanoha discussion again.

Hayate literally has her own harem & probably has sex more than Nanoha & Fate do. She has Sigmun, Vita & Shamal

We need Adut Nanoha so we can finally see NanoFate become a on-screen couple since they become engaged off-screen sometime before StrikerS

I’m partial to young Nanoha being a lolicon but I wouldn’t mind seeing the adult version again so we don’t have to deal with this faggot anymore. He’s poisoned my view of loli Nanoha and I hate that.

Does Nanoha and Fate get invited to the Yagami family orgies?

Yes. Isn’t it great?

When are you going to do everyone a favor and off yourself? Doesn't the fact you're the only person who makes posts like this kinda tip you clue you into something?

I thought we got rid of you.

What "we"? You are literally the only person who gets so insanely asshurt when people tell you to stop shitposting. And as everyone knows, you're the actual problem here.

I’m almost certain it’s just someone trying to false flag as him.

I am 100% certain you are talking to yourself. Because you're the only person who tries to pretend your boogieman is real, and the only person who tries to pretend it's bad to tell you to stop shitting up threads.

Bitch-kun seems to have disappeared again for the time being thankfully

>So yeah, they did not do well at all.
They flopped so hard the entire studio was sold to TBS.

The only issue I have with the timeskip is that Fate's young Sonic Form only showed up for such a short time. Even Reflection/Detonation never made use of it and I'm mad.

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Thumbnail looks like she just did a blowjob.

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I like this image a lot

What "we"? You are literally the only person who gets so insanely asshurt when people tell you to stop shitposting. And as everyone knows, you're the actual problem here.

I am 100% certain you are talking to yourself. Because you're the only person who tries to pretend your boogieman is real, and the only person who tries to pretend it's bad to tell you to stop shitting up threads.

Nanoha has cute feet.

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Can't compete with Vivio

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She’s the best at blowjobs

I think Fuji might be a footfag.

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He keeps it pretty lowkey compared to certain other Nanoha artists.

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Doesn't seem very lowkey

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Those are some tiny fucking feet.

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not always tiny

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Story on the VA?

Yukari Tamura had a falling out with King Records (who have a big hand in Nanoha's production) and swapped record labels which created a big stink. People aren't 100% certain but it's theorized the only reason they got her back so easily for Reflection/Detonation was because she had signed a contract for being in the 3 planned Nanoha movies and since the 3rd movie turned into Ref/Det she got roped into them anyways. Though things seem to have settled down in general now, they probably worked something out after the heat of the moment passed.