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>“Finish that with ‘this pressure’ and I really will punch you to open your eyes. It’s painfully obvious you’re assuming no one else understand your worries here. You’re subconsciously looking down on us.” Elizard moved Curtana back in place.

The catch phrase can use some work but I guess it'll be worked out eventually.

>Kamijou Touma
>dying
>not by suicide
But yeah, pretty tame when you realize that both of them are remotely 'human' to convincingly 'die'

I love Accelerator so fucking much, goddamn.

>They looked a lot like orchid mantises.
>But instead of being camouflaged, these insects really were made from plant material.
>The swarm of mantises would devour human flesh and yet were as beautiful as jewels. They rushed toward Elizard with the force of a sandstorm.
Sasuga Board Director.

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>“'How’s a fist full of crystal shards taste? Pant, pant. It’s too late to spit it out now. Your throat and stomach must’ve been shredded!”
God damn

>“I’m Accelerator, Academy City’s #1. And I’m also someone who needs to become a role model for the entire science side. So I’ve got a question for you. Now, show me how a leader at the top is supposed to act!!”
Accel sure wants to be like his hero.

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>“You’ll cut us both down just cause there’s a possibility we’re dangerous? How boring can you get? Don’t go placing people’s lives on the scales as nothing more than a safety measure, you piece of shit! I bet it’d make your precious people cry if they could see you now, #1 of the UK!!”
what the fucl Accel

>Elizard was the true number 1

>“If you’re gonna lay a hand on my students for your own selfish reasons, then don’t think you’re escaping this unscathed!!!”
I wish Accelerator was my Board Chairman.

>Fortune had said she could only talk about it from the magical side.
>Othinus had crossed between magic and science, but even she had confessed she was stuck at the panacea theory.
>Then.
>Which side was he seeing Kamijou Touma’s power from here?
>“I am here because you wished for it.”
>The monster repeated the words at the source of the curse.
Kamachi really is bringing out the power of wishes as a third power isn't he.

Didn't mean to quote

Same

Business as usual

>But the pointy-haired boy realized luck was on his side today.
fucking hell

I personally loved the feather swatting scene. My favorite Touma scene in a long while

>“'How’s a fist full of crystal shards taste? Pant, pant. It’s too late to spit it out now. Your throat and stomach must’ve been shredded!”
Jesus, that's even worst than pannin

>The Magic Gods wished for World Rejector
The question is, are Wishes related to Miracles or are they two separate categories?

>“No matter what anyone says or does, you act like it never even happened!! If you never cared about any of it more than that, you don’t deserve to have any of it!!”
Not the same words but many here have said this several times.

>Fortune had said she could only talk about it from the magical side.
>The GD all act like science was this weird new thing
>All of a sudden Dion goes all O MY SCIENCE on Kanzaki

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>stab in the stomach
>brutally beaten
I feel bad for IT now
He should have been the one to exist

The chapters get better and better i swear

Dion is a rank 10 bull shitter

>But just then, a dull metallic sound erupted from directly to his side.
>It was Misaka Mikoto.
>No, it was the A.A.A. protecting her. The many arms moved while spread out like wings as it charged toward Index who was in John’s Pen’s grasp. It was working to stop her for even a moment to give the boy time.
>A faint sweet aroma tickled his nose.
>Had it come from the nape of the girl whose short hair was tied back?
>“Stop that, Misaka.”
>He spoke up without thinking.
>He had his right hand back and his misfortune along with it, and yet…
>“I’m not used to good things happening. You’re gonna shake my resolve.”
>Kamijou did not know how the power controlling her mind worked, but he doubted there was much chance of her hearing anything he said now.
>However.
>On a level beyond logic, the blue lingerie dress girl’s slender shoulders did twitch just a bit. That was definitely the girl herself moving and not the A.A.A. moving her.
>And that was enough.
>With the help of someone close to him, he made it somewhere he could not have on his own.
>Kamijou Touma took one last step.

>Killing that other boy had not been his goal.
To think that his first victim would have been himself

Man Carissa was noob with using Curtana i wonder just how much of monsters would Elizard be with the 100% Curtana Original

Dion literally says she was memeing Kanzaki user.

>This time, he made it right up to the robotic nun with her silver hair flowing behind her.
>The time had come for him to clench his right first with as much strength as he could muster.
>“This is over, Index.”
>He would actually end it this time.
>He would clean everything up.
>He would not lose anything more.
>Not even his memories. He would not allow there to be a price.
>“Don’t worry. We can all smile together and head back to Academy City.”
>The sound of the conclusion reverberated through the dance hall.
>That was all it took.
>The black crack directly opened in space itself was shattered. No, his fist had clearly reached the thing lurking within and trying to break out. With the sound of something solid shattering, the magic circles, the crack, and the unseen thing were all destroyed in the span of a breath.
>None of it remained.
>Kamijou gently caught the silver-haired girl who collapsed limply toward him like a marionette with its strings cut.
>Something was floating around them.
>White, angelic feathers fell like snow.
>But.
>Even so.
>There was only a quiet popping sound.
>Just before one of them touched the back of Kamijou Touma’s head, he used his right hand to brush aside that final malice without even looking back.
>He did exactly what he should have done at some other time in some other place.
>“Like I said, it’s over.”

She used her science theory threat to distract Kanzaki

Let's be real. Kanzaki jobbed, as usual. Saints are truly jobbers.

Please don't feed your dragons crystal shards jesus fuck

>They had been given memories and a personality, but were not satisfied with just that. They had also tried to protect someone in this messed-up world. They had stepped aside to give him that seat, so he could not screw this up.
That's a really light way to put "I killed a man in cold blood"

Why is he so fucking chuuni and cool now? Is this the power of a demon GF?

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Touma killed his other self by feeding it Crystal Shards and he seems casual about it. Damn, how do you even job when you have a dragon body as well?

People try harder in front of cute girls, this is known.

>Best boy, best male tsundere, best Board Chairman, gatherer and protector of lolis
I want to be him.

Some ability of Touma's, which isn't imagine breaker, running around on its own like dark matter did, but since we can't ever get real answers
>“I see. So that’s why it chose you…why it flew in from outsi-”

You should be proud Aleister.

>squid
>cute

She's ugly as fuck

His victim has always been himself. As long as it's himself, it's okay.

Dion used the talk-no-jutsu to its most powerful level, she didn't have anything that convenient even if she could probably win with her actual skills

Aleister fawning over his favorite student is too cute.

Get the fuck out of here Will

Shut up Aleister. You made that poor boy's life hell.

>He could take back that gluttonous and selfish girl
But why would you?

I can't believe Kanzaki fucking jobbed again.

>But just this once, he had to settle things once and for all.
>Even with the large blade stabbing him in the chest, he spread his wings wide to catch Kamijou like the boy was weakly leaning against a wall.
I CANT FUCKING BELIEVE TOUMA STABBED SOMEONE AND KILL HIM

She's moe.

she jobbed to a meme at that....

>narration just casually saying the Curtana could cutdown to the pure world and kill aiwass

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>gets panned
>Gets fed crystal shards
>gets stab with a knife
Poor IT. He didn't do anything wrong and just want to live!

She fucked jobbed to 30 silver coins AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

He wants to dick her, I already gave up on shipping just like despite being a boring heroine I accepted Hime is the endgame for Quenser

>BTFO's Elizzard
I thought you assholes said it'd be a stalemate not a slaughter.

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>His reclaimed hand held something: the phone that he had lost.
THANK GOD for that

Because Touma too is tsundere and enjoys Index that way, despite his complaints.

I kinda like how no matter what he sees or who he meets Hamazura still puts Mugino as the bar of power levels. While being unsure if they are stronger.

Boy I wonder if that was foreshadowing

>calls Index selfish
>then literally says shes the opposite

I've never really seen Index as selfish. She likes her food, and can be annoying (much like a child who has never been taught better) but I can't really see her being coldly selfish.

It was even until he called in favor from the bogdanoffs

Well yes, she would literally take a bullet for a literal who no matter how they looked like.
I think her selfishness is more about wanting all of Touma's for herself.

I'm beginning to think that Curtana is the main weapon of a deceased Christian Magic God that ended up in the hands of the UK Royal Family

>The black crack directly opened in space itself was shattered. No, his fist had clearly reached the thing lurking within and trying to break out. With the sound of something solid shattering, the magic circles, the crack, and the unseen thing were all destroyed in the span of a breath.
That reminds me, vol. 1 of the index manga has this show up when John Pen activates. I thought it was just Choronzon's actual form or something but it looks like it's something else if it's apparently showing up now.

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>I've never really seen Index as selfish.
Almost every single word out of Index's mouth is about herself first. She has her moments where she worries over other people, but 9 times out of 10 when no one's going to get hurt Index's first reaction to any situation is to yell "What about ME!?"

>This was not about logic.
>It was okay to start here.
>He could work to become somebody who someone might actually look up to.
>Which was why this had to be the final trump card he played: #1 Accelerator. Not the orbital weapon, not the Mimosa, and not the carnivorous plants. Even with all those next-generation weapons flying around, he would not hesitate to deliver the finishing blow if he carried the most appropriate destructive force.
>Because.
>Because that was his image of the person who had awoken a certain monster. That was the person whose back he had chased after while still walking down a different path!!

I'm always running after you
You are my ideal
You are me

Misaki a pile of shit

Soooo its okay to kill someone as long the one your killing is yourself?

Michael is the power of God, and in OT18 it was stated that if Carissa wasn't nerfed, only a magic god could stop her

So Touma has no issue killing people now?

Just himself.

It's fine since he killed himself anyway
It doesn't count

All of NT was leading to him reaching that point. You could say that's what a dragon is

>“I’ll kill you!! You and only you!!!!!”
Only him

So Will isn't needed for Accelerator to access the Clonoth, but Qliphah is at the very least needed for permission since she shares admin privileges.

(You)

Why does Touma keep hurting himself like this? Why does he want to kill himself?

She's literally the Coronzon of it, yeah. Will just helped her "see" it

>So did that winged monster see the manipulated girls as no more than a usable terrain gimmick!?

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I hope that user who said he needed Will's permission can eat his own shit now.

WILLfags BTFO

>The villain who would push Touma to kill wasn't Coronzon
>It wasn't Crowley
>It wasn't anyone else
>It took Touma himself to push him to kill
What did Kamachi mean by this?

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>final chapter of NT goes full circle and rejects how the very series began
KINO

DON'T TRY TO TELL ME OTHERWISE

WIll just needed to let her in
>As the Will of the Misakas, I authorize this remote operation and grant you authority here /return. Use all the power here as you see fit and protect what it is what you want to protect /return!!”
The Misakas and WILL are the tree itself
>“Those combine to 32, but 31 and 32 are duplicates. This is the single path shown by the 78 cards. But it’s far too different from the tarot I’m familiar with!”

>“I don’t know how you see it /return. The Misakas are simply here as ourselves /return.

>controlled by John’s Pen
Pendex (John's Pen) Mode = IT
Normal Index = ET
Index is going to split into two like Touma soon.

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Mikoto and Accelerator should severely punish Misaki for the shit she did. Legit punishment.

Keep John's Pen, throw the other one away

>index can fix anything just by seeing it done once
>still won't get a job
>still won't cook for herself
She is an lazy freeloading asshole on purpose.

t.Will
Deal with it.

I know it's not the final ending, and I'm not particularly upset it's not, but if this had been the last book, with maybe one more technically skippable (not that you'd want to; this volume would have a lot of fun) SOL volume showing the smiles they've won, I wouldn't have been mad.

I'm almost convinced that Part 3 is gonna be kind of short and mostly happy SOL with a few minor conflicts to tie up plot lines. I'll need to see what Aiwass and Anna say, though, and if there any subtle hints that weird shit is still going on during that happy illustration

*crunch*
*crunch*

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>He did exactly what he should have done at some other time in some other place.

>“Like I said, it’s over.”
Based NT Touma swiping off that shit

>A faint sweet aroma tickled his nose.
Is this a the morse code for "Touma got erect from Mikoto's scent"?

There's already plenty of hints that weird shit is happening user, you're just not very good at picking them out.

>Fran got back to the UK
Fuck. I wanted her to stay on AC.

>They had said his right hand was something extra and that the One who Purifies God and Slays Demons referred to the boy himself and not his right hand.

>He thought of all those ideas that appeared to be false based on what was happening here. Academy City Board Chairman had sacrificed so much to bring his grand plan to fruition. He had used everything in order to raise something, but…

>“It wasn’t Imagine Breaker?”

>“You really thought this could be explained with something so cheap, you scum?”

So uhh just to make sure, Aleister was raising Touma to be someone who purifies gods and slays demons?

Touma gets erect at literally any girl's scent.

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This entire chapter was pretty good but I felt a bit underwhelmed because Hamazura was left hanging. It would have been cool if he had his own defining fight and the chapter itself swapped between him, Touma and Accel.
But we just got Kanzaki jobbing instead.

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couldn't you have made him without all the murder and shit, aleister?

It's not that simple user.

Accelerator was in near full control the entire battle, even before he used the phone. The bit before he called was just acknowledging that she still had a chance against just his power.

No I mean during the happy illustration. It's obvious there's some stuff that needs to be cleaned up. And yes, it's obvious that Kamachi can pull something like "all those polygons were actually ITs and they'll get smarter as you beat them...almost like a certain Network" or something like that to keep the series going

>I don’t fully understand that reflection of yours, but if I slice through the very coordinates at which the barrier exists, the damage gets through. Isn’t that right?

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Look at how happy index is here she's so cute

>just like despite being a boring heroine I accepted Hime is the endgame for Quenser
I only watched the anime and it was obvious the only love interest for him was mirinda

>Thinking to myself that for once Hamazura has a nice scene of doing low key shit, helping out without forcing himself into every scene
>Hamazurafags: Waaaaaah! Why wasn't my powerless self insert dick slapping everyone with nothing but pure bullshit and plot armor?

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So Fran's back at least.

Seeing Accelerator trashtalking Elizard on how to be a leader is probably the most satisfying thing happening in this update. My boy has grown so much compared to before.

>Even after all this, Kanzaki Kaori still could not kill that boy.
>When he had reached the same speed and experienced the flow of time the same as her, she must have bit her lip.
>She must have been horrified at what a dangerous a thing he was doing. If she had simply swept his feet out from under him to trip him, he would have died so easily, but she could not bring herself to deliver a finishing blow to the boy who had wandered into an unfamiliar world.
Jobzaki a cute.
Sasuga.

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>“Is this all the vision you’ve got? Aren’t you supposed to be the representative of the United Kingdom? And here I thought I could learn something from you, Senpai.”
Cute.

Who else will AC made their bitch after this? First appearance in the world and the chairman dabs on Britain even with home advantage

I adore his character development so much. I can't wait to see what he does next. I'm happy he's wearing that Chairman title proudly.

Slash right at where Accelerator's reflection starts, it doesn't reflect the slash because it's not targeting Accel, and then the debris shows up and hits him, I assume anyways.

The science side is kinda boring.

>“Saints have similar traits to the Son of God, right?”

>Kanzaki Kaori wobbled to the side, could not regain her balance, and collapsed.

>“So no matter how many miracles you can use, you can still be surrounded and captured, you can still be betrayed by a friend, and you can still be killed by human hands. You inherit all the fragile aspects along with the powerful ones. All it took was a mere 30 pieces of silver. Surely you understand that.”
Kek, Christianfag BTFO. How could they ever recover?

Touma and Accelerator trashtalking Elizard is the best of this volume.

More science side dabbing on Magickeks in Part 3?

She is selfish when there is nothing in play. All the time when there is no danger she mostly goes "Touma, food!", "Touma, anime!", "Touma, I need attention!". She does get her shit together whenever there is danger.

And I'm saying you thinking there'll only be a couple minor conflicts and otherwise part 3 is going to be fluffy SoL means you're not really all that good at picking up the hints Kamachi is laying down.

Whatever you say.

>My student
I can't believe Accel is going to win the Toumabowl

Neither of them were getting through and when Elizard found away to hit him Accel threw a billion distractions at her until he knocked her out.

He thought of all those ideas that appeared to be false based on what was happening here. Academy City Board Chairman had sacrificed so much to bring his grand plan to fruition. He had used everything in order to raise something, but…

>“It wasn’t Imagine Breaker?”

>“You really thought this could be explained with something so cheap, you scum?”
MFW Touma still thought it all was about IB kek

Didn't he actually "my students"? Probably in reference to all Academy City people there?

>“It wasn’t just the interests and greed of the filthy adults that made Academy City the way it is. It was me. I stood at the top as the #1, but I couldn’t give them any real vision. I stifled them. I robbed them of their dreams and left them there to rot. They studied and studied and studied and filled their heads with all sorts of crap, but they couldn’t become anything more than murderous shits. I’ve finally started to think that’s the real problem with that city.”
So what he's trying to say is, it CAN be helped?

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>didn't sweep the leg
>smiles when Dion
She has a jobbing fetish

Probably

Accelerator is going to have to change gender and remain a girl forever at some point because hijinks.

>“If you’re gonna lay a hand on my students for your own selfish reasons, then don’t think you’re escaping this unscathed!!!”
He did use plural but the only person from AC that Britain is gunning for is Touma

We already know from Terra that jesus let them win.

You don't even need Terra to tell you that Jesus allowed himself to be captured and killed. That's straight from the actual religion

He's a pervert.

>Aleister is literally still alive and planning shit
>Sparks never got dealt with
>Ollerus recruits Fiamma to go against Aleister; nothing happened yet
>Pure World/Horus/Anna/Aiwass/Holistic espers
>Kihara memes in Kamisato's harem/possible link to magic gods getting out
>Minor conflicts

Hamazura was about to be taken by the queen but Accel interfires.

Hamazura and friends

If you want to get technical, Mikoto was under their capture.

It's a saint's nature to job, because they are the most similar to the legendary jobber.

But this settles it.
Unless Jobzaki is against demon spawn she is not “fighting” at all.
Also To-aru's Jesus was a great guy.

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>Replying

A pervert with good taste

Also Misaki would probably be in a lot of hot shit if Touma were to break through and solve all the problems she and IT caused (which he did)

Considering how little it did for him in the Othinus fight he should have questioned how he was suppose to keep all of gremlin in check.

Thinking a Kamachi series would be mostly fluffy SoL is being bad a understanding what Kamachi writes before even getting to the foreshadowing

>>“Don’t worry. We can all smile together and head back to Academy City.”
Touma might be obnoxious to romance but is clearly a prisoner to love. He has made up his mind that he will spend the rest of his life with Index no matter how shitty she is.

If he does turn out to be immortal, like what some speculated, he will find a way to make her immortal like him. He will eat the very words he spatted at Izzard and turn her into a vampire if that is the only way to do it.

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A shame that the kiharas are going all out if Aleister lost or stopped using his archetype controller. The only good kihara alive is a dog, and that's more that he has a hate boner for magic more than him being a good boy.

Part 3 will certainly star a kihara uprising at some point

>“I am here because you wished it. And you just rejected that obvious answer to have it your way. Do not let them die… If you had used this thing right, you might have been able to save the Golden magicians. At the very least, Aleister didn’t need to die and leave his daughter behind. Don’t you dare make a mistake like that again.”

So it WAS bothering him.

To be fair, OT12 was largely that, even if it was because it was leading into the first real AC invasion.

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Imagine your religion was based around jobbing and one of your top followers (Terra) made a spell based on that fact.

OT12 was a set up to one of the most major conflicts in the series though

>even if it was because it was leading into the first real AC invasion.

And they'll all get destroyed by Accelerator acting as Board Chairman.

I'd suggest that he might try to leash and collar them to 'give them a taste of what it's like to be a tool' but I think he's well past such thinking.

Wouldn't say that appllies as an argument to "Kamachi is going to write fluffy SoL with some minor conflicts" though

Touma is too obsessed with saving everyone, he has been since HP died. So did this happen before or after that shit swatted Coronzon?

>To be fair

>Kihara Uprising
Now I want this. A bigger, crazier NT4 could be great,

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>“You really thought this could be explained with something so cheap, you scum?”
>IB is "so cheap"
IT is ET's personal cumbucket with a male's body that follows whatever it masters orders.
That entire conversation. LoL.

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Why is he so dumb?

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>“Stop that, Misaka.”
Stop what? explain?

Don't forget about the whole Kagun subplot going on in the background at the same time as all of these crazi shits
>Kamachi suddenly wrote a side story about a past conversation between Noukan and Kagun
>The Kumokawa sisters sighted Kagun in the middle of Academy city in present time.

Office chair sex with Accelerator!

Touma is allergic to good luck. That's why he can't date a girl, he doesn't understand the concept of getting lucky.

>777

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Stop using AC educational equipment to shitpost, Will.

Who decided to give a little girl hips like this?

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Wasn't that just Hamazura with the processor suit?
Also, Kamachi never followed that, right?

to stop sucking his limp dick

>777
>Touma is allergic to good luck.
You don’t have to rub it in like that Hamazura.

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God dammit Hamazura!

Will changed her mind about leaving Accel to 545 after Accel was able to finally see her face to face. Accel sensed her weariness and got drawn to her. She acted proud but deep inside she was actually really happy. He came in a nick of time before she was able to do something regrettable.

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So let me get this straight.

The invisible thing this whole time was just Touma's own ability gaining sentience because he wished for it? But what's his ability? Turning into a dragon?

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His ability is IB. That was the thing that gained sentience here, then *something* else chose Touma and flew to him from outside, possibly the dragon.

>selfish

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Crap, you're right. I've only read that side story recently and forgot that was written right after NT19. Damn, that's disappointing to know, I thought Kagun had actually come back ...

We have only now, just ended the First Act.

The squid was never winning anything.

We are only around the halfway point for this series, after this volume

>But what's his ability?
The One who Purifies God and Slays Demons.

Keep telling yourself that

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You keep telling yourself that she is. I will enjoy your tears when you're wrong.

kys

Coming soon!

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>thought the post credits scene spoiler was fake because js06 didn't list it in the toc
Oh boy

Which spoiler

>They could point out each other’s flaws all day.
>Because in a way, they had been viewing each other more closely than anyone else.
IT had done it.
IT had cucked everyone.
Pack it up bois, we got a bowl winner.

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The true end of the World is coming and it going to made Othinus destroying the World billions of time look like nothing

Good Last Order being responsible and carrying out her chores

In the end Touma chose to be with himself.
Touma x Touma

So the invisible thing is still a mystery? I feel like nothing was actually explained.

>gets forces back in after eating crystal shards with a knife on his chest
IT was dumb.
He got put back to cuckcage.
Should have killed ET

In English

In the end, the winner was the imagine breaker

Yeah, we got closer, and there's a lot of info from a lot of different people in this volume about what it might be, but there's no true confirmations. Not to mention, IT says that something else jumped in from outside to mix things up as well. So that also complicates theorizing a bit.

The invisible thing is something to do with dragons. That's why notTouma is both metaphorically and literally a dragon, and why Touma got to transform once he lost Imagine Breaker.

IT wanted to save everyone. Killing Touma wouldn't have accomplished that.
>If you hadn’t interfered and hadn’t gotten in my way, that happiness would have remained intact. If you had let me take your place for this one day and then let me leave, no one would have gotten hurt. Even if I’m just pink and emerald encased in human skin, I could have had that brief time. That wasn’t your time to show up!! That really and truly was nothing more than your own damn ego!!!

As ETfag I can say that IT now seems cute as fuck.
Adorable even.
Sasuga true bowl winner.
>selfcest won
Sasuga Kamachi.

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He said ever since the war.

Touma was too afraid of getting cucked by himself to just leave the party be.

We monogatari now.

Serves him right for stealing his phone

To be fair, he's right, IT immediately went to go tell Index he wanted to stay with her forever and might have kissed her. That, and keeping Misaki from breaking, might have been what he was hinting at with Touma there. Or he was making the harem and then leaving, or something, hard to say what exactly the goal was.

>lazy
true
>freeloading
not quite

Index is pouring in huge amount of cash on Touma's online account but Touma does not want to use the money for himself. Pic related is what Touma is doing in a nut shell. He insist on doing everything even though he complains about her being "useless".

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Is Roberto Katze the normal american president you can find anywhere?

Kanzaki suffer a lot of mental and emotional abuse in the past 4 volumes with Misaki

If you think we're not going to get volumes where
>secret chiefs happen
>some kihara discovers the clonoth
>various cabals infiltrate academy city while it's down
>number six
I don't know what to tell you.

>Ougi was born from a fuckton of coincidences + Araragi's negativity and desire to punish himself for fucking up things
>IT was born from a bunch of random reasons + Touma's regret of not being able to use IB the right way to save literally everyone involved in the past incidents
I knew it was just a spook

So after Touma lost IB for over a day, something else just jump into Touma in this volume.

Didn't Kamachi say something about how the St. George legend was important to all this?

I was thinking of that and interpreted it as IT still talking about IB. "Flew in" made me think of a arrow, which was IB's former form. But if IT is IB wouldn't he know the reason IB chose Touma instead of acting like he realized something? Kamachi has just created more questions.

Opps! Wrong pic. That was embarrassing. It should have been this one.

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>Everyone said no one would be dying
>IT literally got gutted and his insides shred
Liars.

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>tfw IT just wanted to get the harem ending right in the party, save face for AC, get his bros that didn't arrive yet to the party because IT was wholesome as fuck and wanted to leave right after returning to ET
>mfw ET just denied it because he jumped the gun
Goddammt Touma

The last time Touma let Index clean the bath she exploded his fucking, of course he'll do it himself

>tfw you subconsciously wish up a dragon who promptly becomes your stealth wingman
>instead of letting him do his job, you tackle him while he's in the middle of setting up Index's flags

>"Flew in" made me think of a arrow, which was IB's former form.
That's a lot of weight to be putting on a single word when it's a translation

IT always acted like IB was something separate from himself, so I think this other thing that flew in is something new. It's such a zoo in there that I'm not sure what's what.

I wish

but I still think*

To be fair, have you seen Index? I wouldn't want to be stuck with her either.

>“Took you long enough. I was sure you would be here sooner than this.”
>Implying
IT was operating thinking that he has a good idea of what is about to come.
And because of the nature of IT being a wish of ET IT acted within that wish primary goals.
Sadly after they split ET became a one track mind Rape Dragon which IT did not think would happen, at least not to that extent.
Then everything went completely apeshit.
ET was at fault at the very core, but at the same time ET had no other option as he has no fucking idea about what he is.
IT was born to die horribly at the hands of its master.
So cute.

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>they'll all get destroyed by Accelerator acting as Board Chairman.
That would only create more enemies. Everybody knows that exploitation is the best course of action.

The thing is that Touma DOES want to be stuck with Index.

Not for life.

“I see. So that’s why it chose you… why it flew in from outsi-”

Does this mean that Touma get a new power in this volume, well IB was gone or is IT talking about something else that chose him at the same time as IB?

I would have assumed this was about the dragon, but IT was also a dragon, so that seems like it's something normal to IB or Touma's base.

>She has a jobbing fetish
Then why doesn't she just fuck Stiyl?

>None of the spoilers about IT and ET were true
>The reality is just even more confusing

When is Aleister going to come back and stop being a bitch and explain this shit?

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Is that real?

>dragon literally only exists for the sole purpose of setting Touma up for success
>the entire situation instantly goes FUBAR once Touma crashes the party
Even without Imagine Breaker, that's some misfortune at work.

IT was about to tell us something very important but Touma beat him before he could

I believe this is talking about how Touma was chosen by Imagine Breaker.

So your saying that Touma was rape by an unknown power in this volume, because it went inside him.

Almost like a certain other Magician that was of the Left, huh?

>That's why he can't date a girl,
It is more like he in denial that he is already dating a girl.

Man, I wish that at least he keeps the sky blue arm when he really needs some punching power

I'm going to miss stealth dragon touma

That's more IT's misfortune causing his plan to come apart at the seams I would think. Touma himself has been getting pretty lucky without IB. He got everything he wanted and got away with pretty much everything too.

>Index and Mikoto both had no lines for the past like 250 pages
The greatest callback to OT

SO WHAT THE FUCK IS INSIDE TOUMA?

I imagine that next time they meet Lolaleister will be running for her life with everything she has.
>HEY DEGENERATE EXPLAIN SHIT NOW
>OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO mach 9

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So wait which of the girls had the most Touma Flags flying this novel? Misaki, Index or Misaka

Index is so cute whenever she is not wearing her broken nun habit

So now Touma been even raped and it wasn't even by a human. Poor Guy

I can't believe Touma won Touma over. Truly the Kamijou Faction but its just him in it.

>He thinks it's gone
That's just the stealth talking.

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He just went back to his arm form

IT.
The deal is sealed.

Accelerator IT and Othinus. Non men need not apply.

>inside
Sounds more like it is him

IB, IT, the thing beyond IT from the end of WWIII and some unknown power that flew into at some time in the past or this volume.

We just don't know because before IT could say everything, he died.

Curtana can parry and cross with Clonoth attacks but Nepth's magic god longevity is nullified by it?

>That Accel vs Elizard chuuni fight
I'm both excited and absolutely terrified on if this ever gets animated.
>Elizard tossing Cubes at Accel

They weren't even conscious for most of the time Touma was around to set flags with him.
It was bros before hoes.

If Curatana#2 attacks can get through on the dimension slice there is no reason to think HR, which higher on the Micheal scale can't just hit Platinum accel with his no miss bullshit

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The people like IT and Terra who know what truly going on, always die before they can say anything.

It's properties. Curtana is still a blade but the energy inside it likely isn't being directly attacked by Clonoth shit so there may be leeway compared to Neph not wanting to get decapitated since she's literally walking magic.

>Just as he wondered that, a strange artificial-looking triangular prism appeared about fifteen centimeters away from the bloody end of the detached right shoulder. The sides were divided into keyboard-like squares that were moving in and out all on their own.

So what is this supposed to be? IB's core?

It's missing the "Yo!", but it's always fun seeing accel acting like touma

If only he wasn't an asshole right out of the gate Touma probably would have let the plan go through

There's a difference between swinging a Claw and cutting through dimensions and even phases.

I think that was IT and not IB.

So what was IT trying to avoid having happen? And will it still happen since his plan went up in flames?

>But what's his ability?
Touma has the ability to turn memes into reality. He lurks on Yea Forums to see what meme he will work on next.

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It's kinda weird how that yo shit came up out of nowhere and disappeared by the next volume

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That seems to be what Aleister spoke of in OT16

We will learn in the Biohacker story coming out with Accelerator anime, that the dragon in it. Went into Touma and that what gave him his dragon form in this volume.

Reminder that he deserves to exist too.

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No. It's clear now that IT pulled the asshole act to make Touma look good because no matter what he still was going to crash the party.

It's not too far off his usual "oi". Might also just be playing up his act since he has an audience at all times now always behind him yelling "Sasuga Accelerator-sama!"

IT is AIM

Well Accel was acting as a new Chairman so he had to keep cool.
>Yo Elizard Yo Senpai Yoyoyoyo №1 Yoyoyo
doesn’t seem right.

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Misaki got away with everything!

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Reminder, one of the people who know the full story, need to stop dieing every time they show up in a volume.

>bowl winner
IT and ET are bowl contenders.
>Touma x Touma
Wrong. It is "Touma x Index x Touma".

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I think it about time we see how the science side look at IB. We have only get how the Magic Side look at IB so far.

>Headcrabfags
Lmaoing at your life.

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Man the more we learn about Curtana the more bullshit OP it becomes and it makes me wonder how the fuck did Carissa lose back during the British Halloween Arc when she had the stronger Curtana Original

Nice Archetype Controller you have there............

So was this all just a false flag?

We thought Touma's arm exploded because of the thing Aleister was worried about last volume, but it turned out to just be IB itself going "fuck it, I'm gonna do something"?

Why did Touma grow a dragon arm instead of the polygon eggs coming out again? He didn't have IB last volume either, what difference did it make that it was walking around this time?

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Elizard is the better magician by a country mile.

The more I hear about people asking how Carissa lost the more I wonder if they ever read the book

The one thing we learn this volume, is that at the end of the day. Even the Magic Gods don't know what up with IB and Touma

In the core of it all.
Touma is in fact a dragon.

Curtana Original got triple nerfed

Carissa a shit
only good for forced impregnation

1: It wasn't tuned to her properly yet.
2: While tuning it, she immediately got nerfed to 80% power.
3: That power was still more than enough to play footsies with two saints and a third close-to saint level magician and the rest of the magician forces and even deflect cruiser bombs easily.
In reality, Carissa just didn't have time to tune it properly to her so she had to make do. Second was always tuned to Elizard probably.

IT could have taken any form but Touma wished to make it himself, precisely him without memory loss. There is no more room left to fill Touma's heart but himself. IT has everyone in check, selfcest true ending.

It's less a false flag and more "not the whole story".

To Touma, life without Index is worst than death.

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Because the whole premises behind Curtana is that it was backed up by the UK as a country. And Elizard just yeet all that power away with Union Jack.

Considering Aleister didn't show up, the swarm is probably something different and is still a real problem. I guess other Touma showing up messed with the release mechanism and/or they were content for the time being. And the dragon thing was probably Touma just being a freak.

We have no idea what happening, at this point I don't think even Crowley knew what was really going on.

I wouldn't be shocked if the polygon eggs were related to the polygon prism that came out of his arm though.

Magic God Index VS Level 6 in the sequel

So Index is gonna job to Accel?

The one he actually interacted with this novel

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>he dragon thing was probably Touma just being a freak.
If being into dragons makes you a freak I don't want to be normal.

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Worst calling Accel daddy sounds really kinky.

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>“…I’ll kill you.”
>He could not have cared less about the duality of good and evil.
>He roared in anger. Like a dragon.
>“I’ll kill you!! You and only you!!!!!”
GOTTA LET IT OUT GOTTA LET IT OUT

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PULL MY DRAGON TRIGGER

Reminder that Index is into BDSM.

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>He did exactly what he should have done at some other time in some other place.
>“Like I said, it’s over.”
Eye on the back of the head huh.

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So, she CAN beat Saints?

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I'm sensing a "Kiharas kidnap both Last Order and 545 in an attempt to take over Clonoth" plot in part 3

As for how 545 becomes kidnappable, they probably will need insider knowledge. I wonder how Kamachi could pull it off.

>inb4 male half of Coronzon, who has all the memories and knowledge of Lola, was also in Touma's arm and got released

What did he mean by this?

If they are conflicted and do not really want to fight or kill?
Yes.

Has anyone uploaded all the swimsuits from the story in IF?

Kiddnapping them both seperately (as in, use the kidnapping of one to distract him from the other also being taken) might be a pretty decent move

I wonder if he is actually getting fragments of his memories back or if IB is giving him the information from its memory

>Just before one of them touched the back of Kamijou Touma’s head, he used his right hand to brush aside that final malice without even looking back.
He negated a thing that he had no chance to see.

This is the new archbishop

Carissa got nerf'd several times and was shit at using it. One of the nerfs are from her doing a stupid move and it's due to her bad swordmanship that Acqua and KL could fight her with that handicap of not being able to directly cross blades.

>The last time
It will be the only time. Touma only needs to explain things to her one time and she will remember it forever. That reality is what is forcing Touma to everything himself. In reality, he wants to do things for Index. If she ends up knowing all that she needs to live on her own, he is afraid that she would no longer need him and would leave him.

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>CAN beat Saints
>Saints
>Because of Kanzaki you must beat more saint to prove anything

But Dion also wasn't even bloodlust in that fight as well. And she has the weakness of having to rely on ley lines as well, which Kanzaki can exploit.
That said, Saints on average are probably still stronger than any magicians in the GDs not named Alesiter and Mathers, but the gap between Saints and the top brass (Dion, Westcott, Lady of the Masquerade Ball, Mina) is probably so small that it can go either way if a real fight broke out, as seen here.

She pretty much talked her way to victory and Kanzaki doesn't really want to win

Wonder if we'll get a "whatever fuckery the Kiharas have done make Last Order and 545 fight each other mindlessly" to echo AAA vs Pendex

Will being used suddenly in a Pendex-like fashion through Last Order would be interesting. I wonder what moves she'd come with, though.

How many pages long are the epilogue, afterword, and post-credits scene?

She was nerfed thrice. If she wasn't a threat, Fiamma wouldn't have needed to sneak in.

Fiamma was confident he could end her, but not so easily that he'd keep the remote intact. Which is still saying something.

Don't forget the GD are team fighters by trade. Everyone except Mathers fought in tandem; and Mathers only did that when he forcibly separated from the team

I'll do it later if you want, it's just Index, Mikoto, Kanzaki, Imouto, LO, and Itsuwa

~40

So we still have no clue what they are?

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>If it had sliced through all dimension simultaneously, it would have formed a massive piece of ruined materials that fell like a suspended ceiling to crush his entire body.
Thank goodness Hamazura didn't die via being crushed by giant pineapple slices.

About 40 pages.

This is never about the power, but about range.
Kanzaki was well within the instagib zone. If she was a murder hobo she would have won after the first wire was gone.
Dion definitely can stand against saints given enough distance in between them.
She is nowhere near Degenerate or Lola’s (lmao "saints")levels but GD’s base stats were noting to scoff at.

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I don't even know what fucking Touma is anymore.

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*giant golden cubes

>Last Order becomes a dead eyed fighting auto pilot drone with moves she shouldn't be able to do on her own
>all them are clearly trying to fight vector control because...well, you know...

Accelerator suffering incoming

>What if the abilities were watching the humans as well? If they had the observer’s ability to alter probability, then could that unknown power control not just Kamijou himself but the interior and exterior of every thinking being of the human race?
Interior Accelerator Yuriko-chan soon?

I'm not even sure what the appropriate abbreviations are at this point. Unless Kamachi drops more info in the epilogue, is tux Touma Invisible Thing, and the abomination that terrified Fiamma and beat Coronzon the swarm?

No, all we know is that Touma can turn into a dragon himself.

Doesn't 545 just "die" after being manifested for a long enough time? I don't think it is ever said how she "vanishes" but clearly she's getting summoned like every time she appears.

Accelerator vs his power in the sequel

Probably. By tuxedo Touma's own words, he's not Imagine Breaker or anything.

>The girl in a newspaper dress spoke while wrapping her arms around the white monster’s neck.
Cute couple!

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When is Kamachi gonna confirm Izzard got killed?

Im not sure. But I imagine that she'd be perfectly kidnappable if they somehow managed to take away her ability to dematerialize somehow. I imagine it would be related to erasing her completely, but if you're wanting to kidnap her and use her, you wouldn't wanna go that far

Let us say that ET did not came and IT impregnates Index. Then afterwards, IT & ET assimilated back into Touma. Will Touma feel that he is taking care of somebody else's bastard child?

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You mean "cute one sided crush"

It's mutual.

STRONG AND THICK
DRAGON DICK

Not in the slightest.

This is why I'm getting confused, discussion in this thread seems to be under the impression Tux Touma was IB given sentience.

Isn't it more like, he's a part of Touma who was born to wield IB more correctly because that's what Touma wanted? And the dragon thing is Touma's own ability, and since Tux Touma is a part of Touma, he can do it, too.

Does IT even have sperm if he's just Kazakiri 2.0?

>“I’m Accelerator, Academy City’s #1. And I’m also someone who needs to become a role model for the entire science side. So I’ve got a question for you. Now, show me how a leader at the top is supposed to act!!”
>role model
So will he go to parties with a gentle smile, shaking hands with diplomats now?

Yeah it is.

>“It wasn’t Imagine Breaker?”
>“You really thought this could be explained with something so cheap, you scum?”
IT - shard of Touma's power was pissed when ET thought IT was made by IB.
>He was a dragon.
>A guardian of treasure. An odd symbol that represented the devil but was also used for houses and organizations.
>This was something else that had been restrained by Imagine Breaker.
IT got cucked by IB from working as intended in the hands of Touma.
IT got cucked by IB's misfortune and hated it.
>“You didn’t think that ability was nothing more than a colorful shell to cover your body, did you?”
IT was clearly insulted about Dragon form treatment.
>Otohime is "youngest princess of the dragon King"
>Jaws act with extreme precision according to Touma’s goals
They are a part of Touma's power restrained by the IB.
Better question would be
>Who the fuck Touma is.

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Are you going to complain and whine every single volume that 545 and Accel tease each other in part 3 too?

Possibly. We'll see

You're correct IMO, not sure why someone would interpret it otherwise

IT is sterile.

>Isn't it more he's a part of Touma that was born?
It's not purely Touma. The narration says far too many times that they're ability and user for that to be all there is to it.

No it's not, but keep being delusional

He describes himself AS the ability in reference to the dragon shapeshifting, so it's more like he's Touma's dragon powers that were turned into a copy of Touma via subconscious wishing.

COPING.

A normal high school boy you could meet anywhere

Why are you constantly talking out of your ass and can you keep your delusional thoughts to yourself please?

Yeah that also explains why he internally turned into a dragon. IT is literally just Kamijou no Touma manifested, not Touma split in half or anything

>Curtana
It is the scaled down version of Gouko's spirit bomb. It is basically a cooler version of the "power of friendship". We all know that friendship always prevails.

>Accelerator gloating and being all humble as fuck about being now the leading power of 50% of the planet and displaying it proudly
Fucking based, I love this man. I can't wait to see the shit he pulls in Part 3.

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I'm curious how this dragon thing is going to work since IT was using it with IB and it's apparently something new to existence. Touma accidentally popping out a tail in the middle of class would be gold.

Okay, this is starting to make more sense. I think when people saw ability they immediately thought of IB, but if IT was talking about the dragon ability that makes more sense.

Sure, that and if Touma and Accel got them too I wouldn’t mind it either.

>MG Index vs SG Will-chan

>He clenched his teeth and slammed his shoulder into his opponent. He aimed for the solar plexus. He poured all his weight into it while thinking of it as lifting up that boy’s organs.
Maybe Touma should do a liver blow next time.

It's up in the air which ability IT is, but it's definitely something. And considering the main ability that Touma uses, could see him bemoaning not using IB properly, and that IT focused on, was IB, it's certainly likely he's talking about that. Especially since both Toumas had the dragon ability and only one had IB.

This would also mean touma is an actual esper with powers possibly beyond lvl 5

>districts quantum physics
Doesn't this literally confirm that IT is Touma's esper ability?

Touma is Touma.

Just read.
IT was made by ET.
ET wished for IT to appear and so IT followed the order of its master.
Touma owns IT to its very core.
IT behaves so fucked up because it never was supposed to have sense of self and IT explains it himself.

IT doesn't have organs anyways, but apparently feels more pain that Touma does, since they both got doused in the boiling water.

Please tell me what happened this chapter, for some reason link doesn't work for me. Please anons I need to know

SO
Touma wished for IT and Touma's ability gained counciousness in a similar way DM is to Kakine.
Is this the same for Will?
An ability that took gained conciousness
Also the Terra confirms that IB is ranged in a similar way to WR, or was
And what the FUCK are the Railgun Dragons then? Goddammit Fuyukawa and your shit pacing
Izzard is confirmed to be have been deleted from the world then, I wonder if Aleister planned him to be some sort of test run for Kamijou No Touma, it would make sense if the AAA is really connected to it and he used to delete Magic Gods

>As for how 545 becomes kidnappable
Kidnapping an immaterial being.

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WHAT THE FUCK IS IT AND IB AND TOUMA AND THE DRAGONS. KAMACHI STOP JERKING ME AROUND.

Okay I just started watching to see series and what the fuck is going on, what is it and ET?

When did it wish for IT to appear? During the ship battle?

Its similar but doesnt really uses AIM
>inb4 Touma is a gemstone

Terra doesn't confirm IB is ranged, just that Touma isn't using it to its full potential.

Accel grew up and Touma is the one behind this madness

Back during the war where Touma wished he could use IN more competently.

During NT9 perhaps. He had no idea how to use IB to peel off the phase layers and go back home.

Don't even bother, you're so far away these abbreviations are beyond figuring out until you read the LN

The dragon's not referring to IB when talking about himself. When he's talking about Touma's "ability", the context is about things like the dragon shell and distorting quantum physics, which are distinct qualities from IB.

IB*

>Kamijou had revealed his ordinary boy’s face while the monster roared with giant shocking-pink jaws. They had entirely swapped out their appearances.
All of a sudden TWO DRAGON TOUMAS?

>Izzard is confirmed to be have been deleted from the world then
Wait, what confirmed this?

I assume when Fiamma cut off IB. Fiamma sensed the swarm, IT helped recover IB but Touma didn't like that and forced him back inside. Makes sense to me, honestly.

>but during that war you wished you could have used Imagine Breaker more effectively.
IT is Touma's personal right hand sized polygon shaped cumbucket. Literally.

>50% of the planet
Unless Accel is taking off the ban on AC tech leaving the city he isn't really doing shit for the science of the world.

So does this mean Accelerator is the True Number 1, the Board Chairman, AND the face of Academy City now?
So not only has he BTFO Kakine as usual, but he's taking over Mikoto as the face of AC?
Not bad, not bad at all.

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It's more like one is Touma who can transform into a dragon, and the other is a dragon who was made to take on Touma's appearance.

> portion of its power had leaked out and gained an entirely different nature as Kamisato Kakeru’s World Rejecter.
>…If that right hand’s power was related to that, had that man been looking to the power to gently heal, or the power to coldly destroy?

It's really not that clear cut. There's a lot of descriptions in there, it's not so easy to just say that it's just his dragon ability, it could even be referring to his ability to understand his opponents. See;
>What if the abilities were watching the humans as well? If they had the observer’s ability to alter probability, then could that unknown power control not just Kamijou himself but the interior and exterior of every thinking being of the human race?
>For example, even a being like Magic God Othinus could be remade like a puzzle.

We're gonna need Venn Diagrams for these.

AC tech does leave the city, it's just the old stuff, which is still well above what the rest of the world has.

IB is comprised of MG wishes. It became WR, not what you're implying

>And what the FUCK are the Railgun Dragons then?
Touma's own ability.

Your quotes don't mean what you think they mean. The first refers to the magic gods wishing for something new when IB was getting punked. The second is purely asking what Terra wanted to do with IB. It doesn't confirm or deny anything about its nature.

>Dragons guard treasures
>Touma was trying to protect Mikoto in Daihaisei
The Dragons are Touma's Will, or in other words, his esper powers Dragonkinesis, sasuga #0

But I thought transforming INTO a dragon was Touma's own ability that was suppressed by IB?

Not really.
Touma is just Touma whoever the fuck he is.
IT is his loyal ability gone rouge because of Touma's poor decisions.
IT still belongs to Touma as part of his tool set, it was not even supposed to "think", and he fucked up THAT badly.
>IB-chan is probably the one to blame for this misfortune

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>Every esper has DID

Instead of a hoard of gold, Touma has been making a hoard of bitches. Being his understander, Othinus picks up on this, and has started wingmanning for him.

THE DRAGONS GUARD THE SECRET TO TOUMA'S RIGHT HAND!! THAT'S THE TREASURE!!!

So could IT use IB in dragon form because that's it's natural form? An AIM dragon, basically.

It's his dragon ability (or whatever greater power the dragon ability is supposed to be an extension of). This is literally the guy's own words about himself.

>“You didn’t think that ability was nothing more than a colorful shell to cover your body, did you?”
>“I’m nothing more than an an ability: something that distorts quantum physics. I was supposed to have nothing of my own. My sense of self, my personality to overcome any adversity, and my memories that you lack? It all only exists because you wished it to.”

What's more, it's exceedingly clear that this is all The One who Purifies God. It's not his right hand and it's not Imagine Breaker.

>A dragon, a guardian of treasures.
>A being who crossed the duality of good and evil.
>In other words…
>The One who Purifies God and Slays Demons?

>A dragon.
>The ruler of the depths and a guardian of treasure.
>They had said his right hand was something extra and that the One who Purifies God and Slays Demons referred to the boy himself and not his right hand.
>“It wasn’t Imagine Breaker?”
>“You really thought this could be explained with something so cheap, you scum?”

AND WHAT IS IT?

Was it the dragons Aleister was nurturing? Did he want them to protect his "science" side?

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AIM would be obliterated by IB even if it was its "natural form" same as it would Kazakiri.
Dragons are something different all together.
As IT had said.
>“You really thought this could be explained with something so cheap, you scum?”
IB is the "something so cheap" here.

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You're several hundred hours of media behind, don't even attempt to derive any meaning from these threads until at the very least you've binged all current anime seasons. Even that's like a shitty abridged version of 40% of the total story

WHY DID RENSA EXPLODE? DID SHE COPY IT or DRAGON TOUMA?

>distorts quantum physics
Could be really anything, both magic and science abilities do this, and as Aleister pointed out, the division is a sham. It could be the dragon, which seems to be not affected by IB at all, but it could also easily be plenty of other things.
>It's exceedingly clear
Lol. Alright bud. That's why we've had a good 6 explanations for what's going on in this volume, right? I'll bet Anna's even going to throw another one at us.

It was obvious by Kamisato that it exploded because IB rejected her

Finally finished it. Touma went full batshit this volume and used a knife to stab IT is a bit unexpected.
Even though I'm still confused about the IT being the swarm that attacked Coronzon or have some connection to it but, it doesn't seem the case. Maybe the "different powers" that appeared in OT22 is truly legit thing now.

>Copy IB with bullshit
>Bullshit is negated
>???????
>ZERO NI SURU

who slut is?

I wish I was better at scrounging twitter for art like I am for Pixiv and boorus, I need every piece of 545 art I can get.

Do any lewds exist?

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>A being who crossed the duality of good and evil.
It's Touma.
>And that was the feeling within Kamijou Touma as his mind boiled with rage.
>He could not have cared less about the duality of good and evil.

>The Angel Dragon didnt got inside Touma's arm before Ib regrew
>Found Kimi and guards her now
>IB makes girls fall for him
>IT hoards them
Kamisato was right

So Touma does have espers powers and it gained a personality of it's own? What the fuck is going on

Only that one that user commissioned.

That's probably getting it backwards. It's not that he's similar to Kazakiri or AIM angels, and therefore he's made of AIM.

THEY'RE similar to him, just like how they're similar to Aiwass.

It's heavily implied that what Aleister was nurturing is the Invisible Thing (based on his conversation with Fiamma in OT22 and with Aiwass in NT18) and the fish eggs (he knows exactly what they are and how to deal with them in NT22).
He's also aware of The One who purifies Gods and slays Demons (i.e. dragon Touma gaining conscience in Reverse) based on his comment about the locks being broken at the end of NT22.
Now, whether the Invisible Thing, the fish eggs, and the One who purifies Gods and slays Demons are the same thing, or are 2 / 3 different things remain to be seen.

She copied the secret ability that IB and IT protected, Limb Exploder.

>Tuxedo Touma is Zangetsu
KAMACHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

It's probably better that way.

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Christ this is a pain in the ass to figure out. Those fish eggs/the swarm are still what complicates this. The implication was that those things are something he can't control, so did he accidentally create something ABOVE IT in WW3 to force it in the arm?

It is not delusional that Touma is afraid of losing Index. Keeping her completely dependent on him is one way to make sure she'd never leave his side.

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Yeah no one wants ugly squid lewds

Keep in mind that Aiwass has the prism core and also has dragon motifs.

So where's the evil Touma?

Touma is a dragon. Index wears gold and looks like a holy relic, of course he'd be hoarding her just for the sake of hoarding her.

Shoved inside the AAA

545 is creepycute! CREEPYCUTE!

Things are going slow on my commission but it's getting there. My friend has been having problems so it's gonna be a while. The only problem is I'm not picky about my lewds I commission so you anons may not be as happy with them as I am.

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Had. He only had it when Aleister ghetto rigged his summon via Kazakiri and LO. He had Accelerator shoot that core in OT19.

No she's just ugly

>yfw he was only given those after basing it on Touma

>That uncanny valley

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You guys are free to commission better ones, I'm just too shy to get too confrontational.

Western artist was your first mistake user.

If Touma had wish powers then why doesn't he get all the eggs?

>Christ this is a pain in the ass to figure out.
If you haven’t red the LN yes, otherwise it states things out.
IT came from a SINGLE polygon prism, now think about that.

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How much did you pay, user?

Desu I'm not sure if tux Touma is the invisible thing

Maybe it's more accurate to just call it a dragon

Quads confirm
>There was a Kamijou Touma that Shokuhou Misaki did not know. One was sky-blue and lemon-yellow and the other was shocking-pink and emerald. There was nothing she could use to judge it properly now. She was in such an extreme state of confusion that the waves of emotion had died off. She doubted she would be all that surprised if a third and fourth one showed up now.

What this guy said. Aiwass in OT is entirely AIM based because he was brought into this world through Kazakiri as the prototype. But Aiwass from NT18 onwards was directly summoned through Aleister's mountain climbing ritual, so it's dubious if he's even AIM-based and has a core at the moment. Case in point, he can exist and actually gets stronger when he's in outer space, where AIM shouldn't have exist. He can also walk the Earth freely with Anna now.

I know.
But at the very least at the end of the day I can say I have possibly the only existing Qliphah lewds. So I can take some pride at least.

She hasn't priced me yet but we're good friends so it likely won't be more than 20$, she's done free commissions for me before but I offered to pay this time.

>he's taking over Mikoto as the face of AC
Not really. MISAKA will just take Mikoto's place. She looks exactly like Mikoto so the transition would be easy.

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>pride in having such shit taste that you're the only one who has lewds of a shit character

>I have the only 545 lewd
But one already exists user. It's not amazing but it's a bit better. i.imgur.com/bQD8mpf.jpg

It didn't, though. A "triangular prism" came directly out of the arm, the red polygons didn't appear in that scene.

Ah well, that's cute at least.

I'd probably still suggest she fix the eyes/black hole though

polygon literally just means shape

You've been bamboozled.

>nipples aren't multicoloured like her tentacles

Literally one fucking job

By the way, how does it feel to be willingly insane, never knew the pleasure m'self..?

It's the nose and tongue that are really throwing me.

So IT (Interior Touma) was dragons all along? Does that mean IT (Invisible Thing) was also dragons or are we dealing with two different ITs?

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I dunno what to tell you user but I also commissioned that one.

>That means you must be drawing power from the ley lines to use anything resembling magic
Does this mean Dion is a completely defenseless girl if she was on a plane?

If the invisible thing is The One who Purifies God and Slays Demons, it is probably dragons.

I'm just kind.

It's not really having the only one if it's been shared with everyone though is it.

Can you repeat the question?

The point still stands. The line literally says the triangular prism comes out of the arm. There's no fish eggs.

>Just as he wondered that, a strange artificial-looking triangular prism appeared about fifteen centimeters away from the bloody end of the detached right shoulder.

I like the style of it personally, I'll try and see if I can get her to change it to at least a shark-teeth'd grin now that I think about it.

The point doesn't stand, the eggs may well have hatched.

>artificial-looking triangular prism appeared about fifteen centimeters away from the bloody end of the detached right shoulder. The sides were divided into keyboard-like squares that were moving in and out all on their own.
>And instead of ordinary spheres, these were collections of triangular surfaces. They were a lot like polygons from a video game, so they felt like a symbol of the artificial. They were all different sizes and the bigger ones were taller than the boy himself.

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I am the only one with the Will to commission them so far.

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I think her art is fine I just think 545 might be a bit of a clusterfuck to draw/commission properly because she has so many features

It is not 545.They should stick to how she really looks.

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Tux Touma is a dragon. The dragon is Touma's power. In other words, he was a physical manifestation of Touma's ability, as he stated. Interior technically isn't wrong, but the implication of the name creates an incorrect assumption.

The Invisible thing might have partially been him but what we thought it was, some monster or what have you, is probably more accurately the swarm/fish eggs, which isn't invisible

Just a friendly reminder Touma is the best old man is this series following by Aleister then Mathers

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Invisible thing is probably something different, the thing Aleister is actually worried about.

I think the dragons (Touma) are meant to guard/protect whatever the invisible thing is, IB is just a bonus that ended up messing with his own ability. IB itself isn't really a mystery anymore.

That's a big problem too. Probably something more simpler would work, like a back-POV where her face isn't visible or of the like, since I notice most artists I've commissioned pics of her have problems with the face.

Fix the nose first and then we can talk about it being fine

What, you mean like they found it would be too hard to draw/weren't into it and declined the work?

Looking forward to Mikoto's crAAAzy ride.

>Kanzaki Kaori gently pressed her index finger against his lips.
>The perfume-like aroma of her long black hair tickled his nose.
>“Have you forgotten that I am older than you? I have had more time to learn how to use my words.”
Will someone ever tell her?

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Ley lines extend pretty far vertically. It does get weaker the farther you are from the Earth, but at that height it's still enough for her to maintain her human shape at least.
You would have to go to pretty far outer space for the ley lines power to approach zero. Which is why that one dude in Kanzaki SS brought grimoires up there for his research before being blasted by collateral damage from Kanzaki vs Birdway.

No, they drew it. I had this drawn almost the day after NT20 was finished. I just have noticed a lot of the people I commission struggle with her design which admittedly makes sense because she's a bit of a clusterfuck for most western artists to handle.

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Othinus just said Aleister discovered a function not even she knows of for IB

>For example, even a being like Magic God Othinus could be remade like a puzzle.
So much like how Othinus tried to Stockholm Touma into being her understander Touma rearranged Othinus into being a sweetheart who worries over him instead of his torturer? Her smell must have really gotten to him.

A triangular prism isn't the same thing as a sphere with triangular surfaces. That's not even an interpretation, they're literally not the same shape.

I can just draw some squid lewds of people really want them

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>western artists can't into creepycute

Not surprising. I'm sure there are ways to contact and comm jap ones even if you don't speak the language.

For god sakes man please.
Pregnant versions would be based too.

Do it user.

Pref with a long tongue hanging down to just above her tits.

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>squid lewds
Disgusting

Cute eggs!

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I'll probably just learn japanese anyways since I intend too and then find some japanese commission site.
Would be neat if I could commission Haimura somehow but that guy is probably too busy.

I see it as
>IB and the lock Aleister used (hidden function??)
>dragons/Kamijou no Touma, OT2, the third arm in OT22, NT4, NT14?, NT18, and the prisms in NT22
>???/fish eggs/the swarm, the thing that scared Fiamma, the fish eggs and laser that nuked Coronzon, and the thing Aleister is worried about
Probably off, but this is based off everything we know and me not speculating on unspoken things

>“I don’t think this is about you being indecisive. You were faced with the ultimate question of having to kill one or the other. But the situation is progressing as we speak. The boy receiving my godlike help seemed to want to save someone. So if that puny Asian is defeated before managing it, what do you think will happen to the girls trapped in this castle?”
Why is she even a Saint? She even jobs as a Christian.

It's chinese so probably yes.

Same archetype.
>artificial-looking triangular prism
vs
>collections of triangular surfaces so they felt like a symbol of the artificial
IT is obviously of different caliber as it had control tools and ability to act independently.
>Red polygon - regular combat unit.
>Prism with keyboard-like squares - some other type.
But they clearly belong to one family - "Artificial shapes" the only thing is question is hierarchy and utility.

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Layers two and three are still very possibly the same thing shifting it's appearance and/or growing

>when a occult fucking magician is a better Christian than a saint
All right, I like her being the new archbishop now.

So Aleister wanted to use Aiwass & his magick to kill all the magic gods and then use whatever inside to Touma right hand to destroy all magic?

The reason I doubt it is because there were zero mentions of lasers or eggs this volume. But perhaps that's falling into thr trap of seeing it only from the scientific angle, but honestly I can't imagine how Kamachi could tie them together into the same thing besides saying he's basically God. I mean, Aleister, Anna, and Aiwass have all referred to those things in different ways

I had a theory that Touma's something similar to Dion's black box. By that I mean he's a collection of different things, and that collection can pull out whatever the fuck to deal with the situation at hand.

That sort of thing would be fitting for Counter Gaurdian/Archer type character.

>inb4 we do get "Touma got this Purify and Slay Archer thing because in a different timeline he asked for it" similar to to Shirou, but I imagine Alternate Timeline Touma asked for it because he failed to save something or someone.

Was it Index? Mikoto? Misaki?

Someone else? Who knows?

Before someone asks, "if this was possible, why didn't Aleister do it to save his daughter", I don't imagine he would. Or that he tried, and was rejected

We don't know the full potential of Aiwass. Reread NT6's epilogue, Accelerator couldn't even begin to grasp his true purpose

Not talking about being Christian as a whole, but Aleister and Mathers can use Christian magics better than any Christian mages in the series, saints included. And in their first time no less.

>I don't see how Kamachi could tie them together
Aiwass says the things inside Touma are growing. Eggs are known for hatching. Do the math.

I feel like Touma is some dragon god or cosmic being born as a mortal. Maybe he gives birth to supernatural powers and that was the fish eggs and because he wished it one of the powers gained a sense of self. IB was attracted to Touma because it knows his true form.

>Accelerator couldn't even begin to grasp his true purpose
That’s simple.
He is a loli Shrimp's chair.
Accel was just not degenerate enough to notice.

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I personally hope that alternate timeline/time travel shit in general stays out of Index

>Alternate timeline
I doubt Kamachi is going to go into that mess. It would be just as easy to say Touma in the past did so, and is being reincarnated into this role as a result, without introducing the mess that is multiple timeline shenanigans.

>EMIYA starts playing

Really? It seemed like he was getting too close to figuring it out.

Apparently Anna's boss can make "fake" worlds and magic gods can use time magic to some degree

And
And
And
And then.

Or so it should have been.

But
But
But

Fried shrimps
Sky blue
Shocking pink
White demon

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Magic gods recreate the world in the same state it was in the past. They're not actually time travelling.

Yeah I do agree that "alternate timeline" thing is not really necessary, even if Touima really is a Black Box Counter Gaurdian.

We could easily get "he was born that way, it happens now and then randomly, don't bother me about it" or that he, or an older incarnation of him, made this deal in the past

>Y-You’re a lot like an esper.
All of a sudden, the saint and the golden magician started employing third grade insults.

>It was the intersecting edges of the two magic circles. It was the unidentified monster peering out from the depths of that black vertical crack.
>The black crack directly opened in space itself was shattered. No, his fist had clearly reached the thing lurking within and trying to break out. With the sound of something solid shattering, the magic circles, the crack, and the unseen thing were all destroyed in the span of a breath.
So no one even bothered talking about the actual dragon(?) summoned by Index that used Dragon Breath? The way is was described sound eerily similar to the Invisible Thing as well, which might or might not be a coincidence.
Parallel universes are confirmed to not exist in Raildex verse. Reread the part where they discuss about WR timeline-stretch thing.

Aleister seemingly wanted to draw powers from Touma Right Hand as well to readjust the phase.

>“I’m sure you know,” he responded as if spitting out the words. “Other than the fact that
the format you were basing it on was much too old, what you were trying to do is very
similar to my plan. They are both the idea to change the world by preparing a temple
filled with strange power, drawing out the power of the right arm within that temple,
and readjusting the thickness of the phase itself with that power. How is Academy City
different from a small world that has sealed a certain type of power? You just need to
look at your own actions from a different viewpoint. Just by doing that, you should be
able to understand the true nature of that power. …If you had succeeded in doing that,
you may have reached your goal before I did

But.
Even so.

Othinus outright said the term time magic

Does 545 get penetrated in the head hole or the vagina hole?

Neither. She gets used as a faithful lackey and nothing more.

Yeah I don't really know what to make of that unless it was leftover from Coronzon

>Parallel universes are confirmed to not exist in Raildex verse.
They actually are confirmed though. The thing that doesn't exist is timelines or the ability to go between them.

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>mach 9 degenerate arhcdemon x dragon
>REEEEEEING Coronzon inside
Kek.

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The head hole has a tentacle on the other end that shoves itself right down your cock as she nee hee hees.

Othinus also said the term "destroying the world" when all she's doing is "creating a pile of rubble".

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So Mikoto wished for this?
It might have really been her esper power thatcgained conciousness, like IT or Kakine did
>inb4 This is how Will is born since Mikoto was connected to the Network at that time

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I rather doubt Kamachi was just handing Fuyukawa notes about NT22R plot reveals casually that far back.

Probably not notes, but he knew what he was doing

>Kanzaki defeated by a box slammed by a scrawny 20-something girl
How the fuck?

Alternate timelines may not be necessary or possible, but the more I think about it, the more I like the idea Touma's just a Dion Box of stuff that's meant to clean the world if it needs it.

Not sure why Touma has it. It could be anything from rng, someone's wish, his bloodline, Aleister picking him because of his fortune telling magic, or some other reason.

I feel like if it was his bloodline, his parents would have been mentioned more, or that he'd have some sort of grandparent that was a big deal.

>Kamachi setting up forehadowing for the main series' climax in 2014 in a spinoff
(x) Doubt

We already know Kamachi doesn't write the dialogue or details in spinoffs now. He writes how the arc will go and the artist goes from there

Speedreader pls, Othinus was talking about "this world" as in "not the hidden phase" that the other Magic Gods are having their funtime over. It's not hard to understand this part user.
Now actually go back and read the WR explanation.

Magical memory perhaps. That felt like important setup

>I feel like if it was his bloodline, his parents would have been mentioned more, or that he'd have some sort of grandparent that was a big deal.
I mean, you say this, but we're only just getting into it now, there's no reason that they couldn't become more important as time goes on.

Dion is GD mage grimore, her body is strong enough to wall jump.
Jobzaki wanted to loose.

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>Othinus was talking about the MG's hidden phase
Othinus had literally no idea they existed. She wasn't talking about them. Othinus is saying that as a magic god she was remaking the universe, and as a result, any other magic god should have noticed her and stopped her if they existed. This is absolutely true, but she overlooks the fact that the other magic gods might be extraordinarily lazy and give absolutely no shits. Which they were. It's not that hard to understand this part user, it simply points out that magic gods only affect a single world, and she postulates that magic gods could exist in another world that isn't their own.

Its really not foreshadowing if you know dont what happens in NTR22
and we already got the Keter stuff in Accel manga

"I want to lose." should be her magic name.

Since Aiwass is angel from the very bottom layer of sciene couldn't it be Touma is some sort of science god?

>Touya summons an angel, for lulz
>Works for Umbrella corp
>Shiina is a fucking Death God
>Otohime is literally "First princess of the dragon God".
Gee user.

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I feel like you think you're making a point with this post.

I dunno. Maybe his mother (or father) wished desperately for the world to be better whilst waiting on their son to arrive. It's very common for parents to think deeply like that, especially if its their first child. Wouldn't be the first time Touma's parents did something major by accident

But the thing is, what would make his parents any different than the other couples (or single women) that were expecting a child then or close to that time? Surely other parents were wishing for a better world for their child

We already know that there's more than science in there. Aiwass isn't technically a scientific angel anyways, it means he has no original sin.

Their name clearly.

>Aiwass being from the pure world means he has no original sin.
No it doesn't.

Eh, maybe. Perhaps his father doesn't take the name seriously. I'm sure people named Noble or King don't harbor any delusions about being an actual noble or king

So what from this confirmed there're parallel universe again? You haven't answered that question.
Reminder that it was literally spelled out during the WR explanation that there are no parallel universes, yet you still try to find a way to twist your headcanon in. What now, do you need me to spoonfeed you the actual quote?

It doesnt has to be NTR22 the same happened to Kakine way back in NT4-6

I highly doubt Touma is from a special family, Kamachi doesn't really pull that, even Kiharas aren't all related

Unless they literally are one.
Kanzaki nodded at Touma's fancy name the first time they saw each other.
44 volumes later we can tell that his name was very much descriptive of what he is.

is me, and I am not My post isn't even "headcanon" as I acknowledged later alternate timelines don't need to be a thing.

Fight that guy if you must, but don't confuse him with me, the one who started this conversation

You keep acting like alternate timelines and alternate universes are the same thing. I'm well aware that the WR explanation was that they were between the frames of the film reel and that there's no alternate timelines, but different worlds are still possible.

One of those is written directly by Kamachi and the other is not. One of those is part of the main series and the other is not. Take a guess which is which.

No, she noticed the alternative meaning. The One Who Purifies God and Slays Demons is an alternative spelling, as Misaki found out in NT18.

You're ignoring a minor detail here.

IT didn't come out from the shape. He formed around it. The prism is a core like Kazakiri's, the AIM burst, and Aiwass. The red polygons have something inside of them. Nothing has come out of them yet. It's like comparing a heart to an egg.

Not to mention IT is a recent existence born from Touma's wish. Unless you want to imply the swarm is also something born from Touma's wishes, they have nothing to do with each other.

Touma's family name doesn't neccesarily mean the rest of his family is special. Kamijou no Touya doesn't really have the same implications that Kamijou no Touma does. It's the combination of parts here that would make Touma special.

He has like 3 of them and all 3 fit.

That doesnt means anything, Kamachi still gives the plotpoints to Fuyukawa

>“I am Academy City Board Chairman Accelerator.”
Fucking nice

>Because that was his image of the person who had awoken a certain monster. That was the person whose back he had chased after while still walking down a different path!!
>“If you’re gonna lay a hand on my students for your own selfish reasons, then don’t think you’re escaping this unscathed!!!”
Hah! Gay!

He pulled it with Kyousuke in Blood Sign and Mai in Zashiki Warashi. I guess that's it.
Also Satori's family in Vampire Zombie is special in a trillion different ways but he's still a normal hacker you can find anywhere.

>N-no!
You're really not going to convince anyone like that user. Focusing in one a single line or two of dialogue in a spinoff is not going to get you anywhere. Face reality. You might have something if you were talking about the entire big black ball's existence. A single line about Mikoto saying she called it in though? Get real.

>Kamijou gently caught the silver-haired girl who collapsed limply toward him like a marionette with its strings cut.

>Something was floating around them.

>White, angelic feathers fell like snow.

>But.

>Even so.

>There was only a quiet popping sound.

>Just before one of them touched the back of Kamijou Touma’s head, he used his right hand to brush aside that final malice without even looking back.

>He did exactly what he should have done at some other time in some other place.

>“Like I said, it’s over.”

It's been a long day without you, my friend
And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again
We've come a long way from where we began
Oh I'll tell you all about it when I see again
WHEN I SEE YOU AGAIN
;_;

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Since we're discussing names, I wonder if Accelerator's real name is also kind of special.

If it was irrelevant, why has Kamachi drawing attention to it?

Unless it's not the name itself that's important, but rather Accelerator's humanization. Meaning that Accelerator's growth will be complete once he sheds "Accelerator" and starts using his real name?

Is bikini Kanzaki better than regular Kanzaki in IF?

Have you read the novel?
IT is the prism and he was not supposed to be active in the way he is.
IT was whining about his sentience and that Touma's wish was what made it work with it.
Core of this relation is - "artificial shape" even if they have different purpose they come from the same source.

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Fair enough, sorry for confusing you with the other user.
Wait, there's a difference between alternate timelines and alternate universes now? Please elaborate.

An alternate timeline is the same world getting split because of decisions people make, electron movement, whatever. They're all based on one point and the river splits in lots of directions.

Alternate universes have no link in common. Think planar hopping in high fantasy like dungeons and dragons, or the shenanigans they pulled in the crossover manga to go visit the other series written by Kamachi.

There's an old japanese belief about the power of naming, like you're granting power to things when you name them. I remember I read it from some 2hu official novel.

>“A.A.A.!! Help me out if you want to protect Misaka!!”
top fucking kek

Him asking those around him to call him by his real name instead of the weaponized name that was slapped onto him would definitely signify growth.

When he said "Don't act like you know me" in the bar, I wonder if that was a (hidden/secret) invitation for those present to attempt to get to know him.

He was just mad Touma didn't know.

So i guess the Dragons that appeared in the spinoff are irrelevant then because Fuyukawa writes the write
Same for someone dying 10k+ times reaching keter is irrelevant because appears in a spinoff
(which was also a single)
I dont know why you are so adamant on Railgun not being canon when the Main Novel has referenced the spinoff a handful of times
And im not trying to convince anyone, its just a thought I had

>tanks a beating from Acqua that included a meteor level attack
>jobs to a box
Maybe asian saints are stronger in Japan

Kino

>But that was fine.
>He did not need any help.
>He had only needed his opponent to seal off his own possibilities out of fear of the possibility.
>Kamijou Touma would not expect good fortune.
And that was a bait shout.
ET rekt IT with casual bluff.
Sasuga.

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So you're arguing that alternate timelines don't exist but alternate universes do in raildex? First of all, that distinction between the 2 concepts makes no sense to me and sound like it comes from your own definition of the terms. Second of all, as far as I'm aware the crossover is entirely non-canon, so you still have the burden to prove to me why alternate universes (as per your definition) exists in raildex.

>So I guess (thing that was based off of something originally in the main series) is irrelevant.
Retard.
>I don't know why you're adamant on Railgun being non canon
And illiterate too, wonderful. Single lines from the spinoffs are not likely to be personally written by Kamachi. The outline of the plot is given to them, so placing lots of importance on a single word or sentence by any one character is a lot less likely to have been specifically mentioned to be included there by him. This isn't hard.

>killing is okay because it was only him
>make him crystal shards
>stab in the chest
FUCKING murderer

>IT says he only gained a self because of Touma's wish during the war
Then what about all the other times it came out? Is it even the same thing?

>IT tears ET’s right arm off
>it is full of glass shards
>Murders him in cold blood with his left hand
>THIS IMAGE IS CANON
Meme magic strikes again.

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People are theorizing that there's several different things in him, yes. One person even theorized he's kind of like Dion's Black box, but for things needed to clean the world.

I'm saying they could, not that they do. As Othinus specifically mentions the possibility.
>I don't understand it so it must not be real.
Idiot. Alternate timelines are a subset of alternate universes. I gave you two examples, this shouldn't give you the aneurysm that it seems to be. Just think of them as visiting another planet, but instead of the distance you need to cross being space, the distance is a more nebulous concept that you generally need a portal or some magic to cross. Have you never seen an isekai or some shit?
>You have the burden
I gave you the evidence. You tried to counter it, but your evidence does not counter it, it only extends to timelines. Not understanding the difference is not an argument.

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>“Stop that, Misaka.”
>He spoke up without thinking.
>He had his right hand back and his misfortune along with it, and yet…
>“I’m not used to good things happening. You’re gonna shake my resolve.”
C-Cute.

we know he has at least 3 whole powers not considering precog. theres, IB, Dragons, and whatever's beyond dragons that fucked fiamma up.
im addition now theres IT, who seems too be a sentient power of some sort in his right arm that can fuck off and do shit if touma fucks up enough.

Assuming Kamachi doesnt tells Fuyukawa how a character should react/think in a big event (unlikely), how would that make it not canon if it doesnt breaks a

>I'm saying they could, not that they do
Ok, so clearly there's no fucking evidence that alternate universes as you called it is an actual thing in Raildex asides from your "Nuh uh, other series have this so clearly it's CONFIRMED to be the case in Raildex"? Who's the real idiot now? Now fucking give me something from kamachi that said alternate universe is a thing, or concede from this discussion.

>Just before one of them touched the back of Kamijou Touma’s head, he used his right hand to brush aside that final malice without even looking back.
>He did exactly what he should have done at some other time in some other place.
>“Like I said, it’s over.”
Pottery, pure fucking pottery. OT began with Touma with the help of the magic side (Kanzaki and Stiyl) fighting John's Pen Index's Dragon's Breath and falling against the feathers of light, and NT ended with Touma with him having help from the science side (Misaka and AAA) fighting John's Pen Index's Dragon's Breath and winning against those feathers of light.

I wish Index was more prominent in NT though. But still what a wild fucking ride.

alternate phases have been confirmed too exist and can involve other kamachiverse shenanigans.

>yfw Accel's wish to be at the top, beyond Level 5, was finally fulfilled by becoming the Chairman of Academy City

Fucking hell. Touma in NT has become less heroic and more of a piece of shit. It's crazy that Accel has become more heroic than him.
At this point, the Demon Lord isn't a joke. It is going to HAPPEN in part 4

>that extraordinary power could penetrate the barrier between worlds and kill a being lurking in a different phase… for example, Holy Guardian Angel Aiwass who stayed in the layer of physical laws at the very bottom.
Aiwass's name keeps fallng further and further each volume. How long until we find out Kazakiri could have actually taken him?

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You said they were confirmed to not exist and I replied to you dumbfuck. Don't try to wriggle out of it. Who has the gun to your head saying if you lose face on an anonymous forum they'll kill you?

Read my post again, in its entirety, before replying illiterate-kun.

>They actually are confirmed though.
>ACTUALLY ARE CONFIRMED THOUGH
Right back at you. Lmao, it's like this dude doesn't even read his own post before sperging off.

There's nowhere left to fall but the floor.
He is under the Shrimp, acting in a way a proper chair should.

I amended my statement partway and you didn't.

So I guess dying 10k+ times doesnt makes you reach Keter because its a single line in a spinoff
Okay then, I accept your concession

You weren't supposed to reply until you read the post.

Yeah, I don't like how Kamachi handles my boy Aiwass in recent volumes. Curtana was confirmed to have been able to cut dimensions, not phases and certainly not all the way to the Pure World. That's more of a Dainsleif thing.

Its ok user, now I know that Mikoto wont explode upon reaching Level 6 because it was a single line in an spinoff manga

Dumbasses like you are why I often have to start emails with "as per my last email" at work.

Ok, now we're getting somewhere. All my posts were based on the assumption that you said it's CONFIRMED parallel universes exist. I can accept the fact that they MIGHT exist, so we've reached a common ground now.

Its not my fault that you cant fathom the concept of a multiseries work

Its not my fault you cant fucking read