Does this character have anything going for it other than the gimmick?
Dragon Ball Super
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>toyopacos
yikes
I don't read Dragon Ball, so I can tell you just from seeing him in the catalogue that his design is much more distinctive than other designs in the series and in other Toriyama works
Just trying to kill the jobren shitposting bin or just contain them there.
Its not DB if the villain isn't a gimmick.
>Does this character have anything going for it other than the gimmick?
nope
he can absorb energy and wants to use that power to absorb all the energy so he can be the strongest
that's all
he was in prison for 10 million years or something but it doesn't matter
Nah he is just King Piccolo
Only sHit before him had a gimmick.
Based. Do it user
Solid start, but the ball has been dropped on the development. It's not clear how powerful he's getting at all, and his wish makes no sense with his goals. He could have just asked to be transported to the furthest inhabited planet.
what a waste of a wish
Thanks for your support Gokufriend
>He could have just asked to be transported to the furthest inhabited planet
That would've been even dumber. Bringing back planets was the best option.
Yeah, but they would need to change the rules of the dragon balls yet again. In terms of wishes that would get him out of his situation, moving to another planet and succing it makes the most sense.
His wish was
>free convicts
>one of them likes you kind of
>he convinces all the other convicts to help you?
>they know what planet you're on and on fly there
>they make it in time to help you
>they are strong enough to make a difference
So much could go wrong.
Isn't he like a real space wizard or something? Given enough time Wizards can fuck some shit up.
Moro
>Yeah, but they would need to change the rules of the dragon balls yet again
There was just so much room for asspulls there. Him knowing techniques to strengthen the DBs or whatever.
*Remember*
Fix'd that for me
Honestly, the fight between you and him are the most entretaining thing about these threads nowadays
Moro shows the problem with post DBZ Dragon Ball more than anything else. His technique is apocalyptic, and in older Dragon Ball, they would have dwelt on that. We'd see many panels of how spooky it is, and this would contrast with the light hearted moments later.
But nothing in Super has that kind of gravity. We are left with this horrifying technique that feels completely forgettable. None of the non comic relief characters even seem disturbed that they're talking to a guy who killed billions of people.
Even Dragon Ball made people angry, afraid, or nervous around Piccolo. Why can't Super?
>posts deleted
HE'S HERE
Super has no soul put in to it. That's why
Ironic, he did the same thing with the last thread today
Reminder Goku lost to Vegeta twice
Guys, I'm scared...
He's the GOAT
Remember how Buu turning an entire city into chocolate and then inhaling it was actually portrayed as horrifying, despite the fact that it was a big pink blob eating candy?
No! Put me down! P-P-PLEASE I BEG OF YOU!! ANYWHERE BUT THERE!!!
Don't worry, i'll kick is ass if he comes here
The vegetafag/jobrenfag is deleting posts! Be prepared anons!
H-he's fast!
The edited pics are fucking pathetic...
Honestly i'm starting to believe he is a mod by how fast he can delete posts
True. He's probably silent now because he is banning everyone or something like that
No.
And what's worse, toyo is fucking misusing the damned thing.
He got magic, he can summon shit up.
He can undermine the very thing that goku and vegeta NEED to do anything.
What good is god ki and being able to punch so hard you can break reality against someone who can absorb all three kinds of ki from a distance, go intangible, use mental attacks, create things out of thin air, and even summon super powerful demonsn on par with kid buu out of thin air/from demon world?
They should be worrying about how to defeat these demons and moro and KNOW that they can't ATATATATATATATATATATA away.
Of all of the people he could have chosen to bring in to help the boring saiyajin duo he chose fat buu?
WHat about demon piccolo?
Give that nigga a majin stamp and make him a surprise arch villian that can use DEMON KI!!!!
Put piccolo on par with god ki goku and vegeta because of demon energy and have him stomp.
>None of the non comic relief characters even seem disturbed that they're talking to a guy who killed billions of people
What's his face was the only one who really talked to moro and he was visibly afraid of him, for good reason since he ended up killing him
>I'm talking about the lunatic super criminals from mega space jail
None of them interacted with moro other than the big bad guy and he's part of a long line of cocky henchmen who overstep their bounds and get killed by their masters.
On that note, I don't remember ANYBODY being afraid of babidi, though I suppose they were mind controlled
user, Goku is directly responsible for causing untold trillions of deaths and ending an entire fucking multiverse.
The end of the Trunks saga was the moment you should have realized that they do not give a single solitary fuck.
To be fair gos ki doesn't mean shit anymore when many mortals without it can match it constantly. also only time reality broke with god ki was gogeta and them being involved when fighting broly. Otherwise it only ever shake the universe once and that's it.
I agreed with your post until you went full retard about Fat Buu. They at least had a reason to bring him in whereas the others would just be a case of Toriyama giving them a free power-up for no reason.
Probably having a meltdown and breaking things in the asylum because someone is on him. You will see him when this hits the bump limit or just a few hours later.
Yeah. Good thing that the others anons came back though!
>Goku is directly responsible for causing untold trillions of deaths and ending an entire fucking multiverse.
Do you have a single source to back up your claim? Or are you just saying Zeno deleted the Future timeline = Goku killed trillions?
If Vegeta's case is anything to go off of, Babidi's "mind control" was just him being able to perform mental attacks that were basically the same as screaming at a guy through a megaphone. They were subservient but they clearly had free will, until Babidi starts chimping out directly to their brains until he got his way.
>he's a Jerryfan
>he's a mod
No, he's Bejita-sama.
The problem with god ki is that once you get passed that STUPID fucking retcon and the creation if, it's potenital is absolutely squandered.
It just being a way to power up goku and other people like at least fucking piccolo or tien or dende not having it is bullshit.
God ki being a multiuse mystical ki of gods that can be used in certain ways works far better then it just being a way to make goku get a gaudy ass ugly new super saiyajin form.
What if goku and vegeta get god ki and learn to sense it then they sense a massive amount of god ki.
One that dwarfs theirs.
They look around for it and there stands fucking Piccolo and then they see an massive amount of god ki coming from PoPo and then another from Dende.
Then goku can then start to realize that those gods that he was shitting on were far more powerful then he realized because of the level of their unique ki and how small his god ki was compared to it.
He and Vegeta were learning how to harness their tiny amount of god ki and tranform it into physical ability. Then learn how to use that god ki to use attacks.
Yeah, the Shitren bin is dead as was intended.
user, Goku got a power up from fucking getting hit by the Genki Dama, which he fucking absorbed.
He also fucking can use the hakai.
Somone motherfucking else needs a motherfucking powerup outside of goku.
When it's all about goku with vegeta being a second banana because everyone knows goku can't carry a the series by himself and they also need a fucking jobber.
Fucking ROSHI was dodging Jirens attacks because MUH KUNGFU AND MAGIC URBS.
Jiren is GAY
Vegeta is GAY
Gohan is GAY
Pic related are NOT GAY
>he'll remind us
Don't just believe it. Know it.
The ToP is his fault. Period.
Zamassu? YES THATS HIS GODDAMNED FAULT!
Goku is directly responsible for every single death in the black and top arcs and this motherfucker gives no fucks.
I think what dulled me in super is how they have to be creative to downcreep the sayans. Or just powercreep the fuck out of it like with beerus/chadren
>frieza
>straight
2-0.
>still revising the posts to fit whatever he has in his sick and pitiful mind
There is literally no conversing with you. Take your meds.
>jobkudog
Kek you are repeating the insults as if you were a little kid. Thanks for enforcing the asylum rumor.
>replying twice
SEETHING
You should add Broly to the non gays Gokubro
I wish goku had different moves. Vegeta has a nice handful of different attacks but final flash became his modify move and now everything is a variation of that.
Goku needs his OWN special moves. They dont need to be powerful. They could be weaker, but it would be nice for him to have more than the kamehameha and spirit bomb
>The ToP is his fault. Period.
You fucking idiot. It was either to hold the ToP and give one universe the chance at survival, with a wish that could potentially bring all the others back, or just delete all of them.
>Zamasu
The only thing he's responsible for is the magnitude, since Zamasu learned that Saiyans basically have infinite potential. He would've snapped no matter what.
>Goku is directly responsible for every single death in the black and top arcs and this motherfucker gives no fucks.
>ToP
So, zero?
Couldn't they have just used Bojack instead?
Ugh
naughty janny deleting my posts! take this! and this! and this!
I haven't caught up with the manga.
Did Buu become less retarded?
They hypnotized him and awakened the Grand Supreme Kai (the fat one), who he'd absorbed long before the events of Z. He's temporarily in control at the moment.
huh
alrighty then
Didn't think that was necessary Goku friend, but for you I shall.
Broly is NOT GAY
>You fucking idiot. It was either to hold the ToP and give one universe the chance at survival, with a wish that could potentially bring all the others back, or just delete all of them.
Future Trunks timeline was not erased.
The fucking Black Arc spits in the face of that ridiculous justification.
You have no rebuttal.
Don't try.
>>Zamasu
>The only thing he's responsible for is the magnitude, since Zamasu learned that Saiyans basically have infinite potential. He would've snapped no matter what.
Goku should have kept his WAKKU WAKKU in his damned pants. The bitchy little twink would have been a mensing little bitch but he would have been a decent second banana supreme kai.
>>Goku is directly responsible for every single death in the black and top arcs and this motherfucker gives no fucks.
>>ToP
>So, zero?
user, Goku's bullshit lead to each of those universes finding out about an entity that will eliminate them all at the drop of a hat if they don't do a little dance for htem in an impromptu battle.
Not only did this cause the collapse of probably ever fucking religion in those universes but lead to the collapse of civilizations wide spread madness and an inferno of unchecked destruction and existential suicidal dread that ended untold numbers of lives.
I'm not even going to get into how this makes the people in those universes feel knowing that their protectors are incapable of standing up to that god or the evil menacing lunatic who caused the entire situation in the first place.
Fucks sake, he has, if you think about it for a moment, put the universe 7 on the shit list of every other universe in existence.
Goku is a fucking monster.
.that...that's not how that works
once they are absorbded...they are gone.
yeah, just like Gohan, Piccolo, Goten and Trunks were gone and totally not alive inside of Buu
Yiff in hell
Did you miss the part where they went into evil buu to cut him out of his stomach before he fully absorbed them?
I reiterate.
Once they are absorbed...they are gone.
>before he fully absorbed them?
not such a thing outside of filler
Buu never fully absorbs anyone
That's merely an assumption that has more evidence working against it. Cite your sources
>user, Goku's bullshit lead to each of those universes finding out about an entity that will eliminate them all at the drop of a hat if they don't do a little dance for htem in an impromptu battle.
>Not only did this cause the collapse of probably ever fucking religion in those universes but lead to the collapse of civilizations wide spread madness and an inferno of unchecked destruction and existential suicidal dread that ended untold numbers of lives.
If I’m not mistaken not every universe is like that where they actually hear about what’s going on, like we for sure know that U7 as a whole wasn’t clued in on what was happening. Even with that it’s a much better alternative than them all dying since they would’ve just been erased in the first place had the ToP not happened
Yes he does.
That is literal fucking manga canon.
Once he fully absorbs them they are fucking gone.
An assumption based on actual evidence and the fact that there isn't untold billions of stored beings in his gut.
Once kid buu absorbs them. They are fucking gone.
>If I’m not mistaken not every universe is like that where they actually hear about what’s going on, like we for sure know that U7 as a whole wasn’t clued in on what was happening. Even with that it’s a much better alternative than them all dying since they would’ve just been erased in the first place had the ToP not happened
Most universes knew.
Lastly, their universes being in danger in the first place is once again, GOKUS FUCKING FAULT!!!
There, fixed your team
>vegeta is not a girl nor did he become more powerful in that scene. shit meme.
>That is literal fucking manga canon.
literally never mentioned in the manga
Who are you quoting?
Moro's gimmick is shit. Remember 19 and 20? They absorbed, yes, but there was nuance to it. They were weaker than the Saiyans, they needed to get their hands on them to fight. Remember the segment of everyone chasing 20 through the mountains, trying to find him before he makes it to his lair, unable to track him by ki? There was some tension there.
Moro does not allow for tension because he sucks passively and completely. As soon as he's present, Goku and Vegeta become useless. As such, he's a shitty gimmick villain who in practice is invincible until the author winds up hitting the off switch. There's no tension, there's nothing interesting going on, it's just a wait until they find his off switch and defeat him. Moro has nothing going on personality-wise, he's another trash nothing villain like a GT villain or a movie villain, so there's nothing redeeming about him.
In the new manga volume, Toyotaro drew Gogeta vs Broly. Waiting for this fag to release the pics.
Goku and Veggie are too strong so plots are now impossible.
He isn't charismatic enough like Zamasu nor he has any gravitas to him like Frieza or Jiren.
He is just a generic doomsday villain.
Indeed hes just lame and boring.
Recently absorbded people?
Right there
Other gods and powerful beings from other worlds and universes he absorbed?
Nowhere to be found.
Once absorbed
They are gone.
And that's why most DB villains sucked
Dumbass Mexican
Yeah.
Him getting his power back and becoming an aloof "sick of your bullshit" type of character is more fun.
Hell make it so that Moro is just a foot soldier of some far more powerful demon or seeking to open the gates to the demon world and that's why the angels are keeping their hands off of this and forcing the GoDs to stay out.
>there have been three arcs with a "stronger than GoDs" antagonist
>Goku and Vegeta reached rookie GoD tier three arcs ago
>Toriyama STILL won't let the MCs make the jump to "stronger than Beerus"
Why is he so obsessed with defending the jobber cat, even to the point of writing out power ups (MUI, Fusion, Potara) or characters (Jiren, Broly) that surpass him? It's getting real old.
Why didnt he just kill Retardku and Jobgeta?
Why is the almighty CHADly always smiling?
>Toriyama
It's not toriyama
But ask yourself something...
Then what.
The hack writers and the retarded suits at Toei have already completely broken the series.
Goku is untennable as a lead character with everything that we know about the series period.
He has an ability that makes him mindlessly dodge any attack no matter how fast and react to it and gives him a massive boost in attack power.
He also has an ability that allows him to go full ultimate nullifier on anyone or thing.
He also has been retconned into being able to teleport to the other side of the fucking uinverse AND sense beings on the other side of the universe at will.
Goku is 100% broken on every fucking level and him not being "stronger then beerus" is a narrative decision that makes little sense if you think about it for a single moment.
Beerus is only stronger then goku because the moment goku becomes stronger then him then the entire stupid as fuck god thing becomes pointless faggotry that will not interest him anymore and peopl ewill want him to be a fucking god of destruction fo some kind.
That's it.
He can't get stronger then beerus because they lack the fucking talent to create something stronger then beerus that won't make the series even worse then it is.
Vegeta will learn how to turn into a plant.
Do you care?
If he had made them into his foot soldiers or kept them locked up as his personal batteries then I can see a reason to keep them alive.
But this is just "I'll let you live because you need to defeat me later!!!"
A reset of the series with new characters is needed but that will never happen.
>Don't worry Jiren, I'll ask my friend Goku to spare you.
They can only be fixed by getting erased entirely.
what will happen to them at the end of this arc?
Girls in my basement
They're likely to join the Frieza Force if they somehow don't get recaptured by the Galactic Patrol or killed off. The Galactic Patrol don't mess with Frieza.
Kakar-humpf !!
The dude that flew around with moro should have been the one to wish for those guys to be released from prison.
Blueberry is a crook and those guys are his foot soldiers.
Moro empowers him and tells him to take on goku and vegeta before he goes off to finish absorbing the rest of the power from new namek.
Cranberryfags are so fucking annoying. Glad Moro killed that literal who off.
no
>one of them looks like zarbon
totally not going to be zarbon's replacement in freeza's new army
Stop samefagging.
I didn't like the character really and thought it was stupid.
However, him being a crooked patrolman who helped him out because he promised him power works a FUCKLOAD better and has more potential as a side character.
It allows for them to bring in more characters to beat up and expand on the galaxy patrol and how it works while allowing moro to be something else.
Hard to take that shitter seriously when the antagonist of 2 arcs before was far stronger.
There it is again
Few centuries in the future and something big happened and no one knows about GoD or God ki? Sure.
But they are going to keep pushing goku down everyone's throat because they know they don't have the talent or skill or understanding of the IP or trust of the fans.
>Jiren
>Antagonist
>Not hero
user...
Him treating his subordinates with some modicum of respect was really the only thing he had going for him. You already know Toyo's going to have him betray/kill his cellmates just to be an edgy faggot again.
Even then, it's not something entirely unique to him because Frieza already makes courteous attempts to recruit people he takes an interest in. Still a better character than jobren.
They look so generic
> Oh yes goddess... Hurt me more !!
Moro would trash Jobren in seconds.
The guy ran from Frieza.
>Him treating his subordinates with some modicum of respect was really the only thing he had going for him. You already know Toyo's going to have him betray/kill his cellmates just to be an edgy faggot again.
That's what makes Moro so based. Besides Cranberry was the dumbass trying to jew Moro out of his wish.
And Frieza is much less tolerant towards subordinates in comparison to Moro.
Headcanon.
Magic is useless on him.
no no no AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
He is kept simple like his personality and fans.
>rent free
They were inside of Fat Buu
Also superior.
So that's why those scum haven't been around.
It might be time for Vegeta to put his dog down for 3-0.
I finally watched the Broly movie, y my peepee hard?
GO BRORY GO BRORY GO!
That doesn't mean you just give it to them at random. Buu has an actual reason to be in his current position in this arc, what reason does Piccolo besides "muh namek?" Buu didn't even get a power-up, if anything he was nerfed.
>user, Goku's bullshit lead to each of those universes finding out about an entity that will eliminate them all at the drop of a hat if they don't do a little dance for htem in an impromptu battle.
Only the raburabu universe. Most others were completely unaware of anything happening, outside of the fighters that were gathered
>Not only did this cause the collapse of probably ever fucking religion in those universes but lead to the collapse of civilizations wide spread madness and an inferno of unchecked destruction and existential suicidal dread that ended untold numbers of lives.
Nice headcanon. Where's your source?
>I'm not even going to get into how this makes the people in those universes feel knowing that their protectors are incapable of standing up to that god or the evil menacing lunatic who caused the entire situation in the first place.
Source? Or just another assumption?
>Fucks sake, he has, if you think about it for a moment, put the universe 7 on the shit list of every other universe in existence.
Nice opinion
Because Shitlai is a pedobait and you were hooked.
If he keeps concussing Goku so hard the guy is really going to be a vegetable. Might be for the best. Maybe feed him to Buu as a power-up.
*inferior
Shit, all that brain damage takes a real toll.
I meant what I said
Nothing pedo about shortstacks you big gay
Wait, what is this ?
>the galactic patrol will never be wiped out entirely
I will start praising Toyo if he was to do that.
>yfw this scene
>oh shit Moro can absorb ki and left us in a coma for several days
>oh well better jump right back in
>WTF he sucked us dry again who could have predicted this!
> Freeza looks like a 11yo kid
The recent chapter must've been good and eventful because it's all you guys are discussing. Reminds me of the anime days when we actually got discussion about the product
>Gaygeta
>in manga
Fucking Tacopacohackospico
It's not their fault that Shitrenturd told them MUH STRENGTH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gimmicks
Everyone is just disappointed by the wish really.
He does look like he wants a turn on the Xbox
Reminds me when our threads REACHed +2000 replies before archive
Vegeta is hopefully going to finally learn a new technique that isn't a bigger ki blast.
Cope
Better than a "I want to be immortal" Or 5cm...
Honestly even if Vegeta beats this shitter it won't be satisfying to me and people still wouldn't think it's impressive.
>Future Trunks timeline was not erased.
Yes it was. They even show the ring for that future vanishing.
At least those weren't teased as if they were a huge reveal.
Bonus pages for Victory Carnival, just like the previous ones that showed why Pilaf is young, how 17 got stronger, and why Trunks returned to the future
This one is lame compared to those
Vegeta is a jobber.
Goku will beat Moro.
Because...?
But he will also job :( kek
who cares though? moro doesn't even feel god toppo tier.
moro doesn't feel like a threat
Goku blue gi when ?
Vegeta eastern european when ?
>>Like many other controversial writers, Newberry often strains to fit facts into his arguments, and some of his myth interpretations are torturous, TO SAY THE LEAST.
EoZ never. You should've known that by now.
Fact: Form 2 Frieza is best form
You're a fucking idiot. This is my last response to you
Wrong order, my dear self hating ENT.
>how 17 got stronger
link?
Silence.
> Fighting against Super Cell Jr.
Wonder if Gero knows that he is a main factor in saving the multiverse?
he's basically an upgraded piccolo
the fact that the saga takes place in Namek is a wink wink spit spit to the fans
besides Goku can always press that stupid button to summon Zeno and make him fix any interesting situation
He's dead so...
True maybe some of those non-canon tv broadcasts of the buu fight have a hint of that
kek
and yet superman is still stronger than both. It is possible to create stories for people this powerful, what ruins it is the dragon balls, the senzu beans and the fact that Zeno(God in that unverse) is their buddy.
Literally no matter how hard they fuck up, everything will be fine in the end.
Didn't know you fucked actual sharks, but I'm impressed!
What's with DB threads and bots?
I feel that too. Seems like having beat the strongest characters in just a few pages wasn't enough to establish him as one.
Funny how Merus here is amazed and even more terrified about how Frieza is able to acquire such men into his army.
Just like how amazed I am by how trash he is.
seems like foreshadowing that he may get those prisoners working for moro to work for him in the end.
I miss him bros
Why are these threads not banned yet?
This is literal /trash/ tier garbage.
I'm proud of my son.
His extensive knowledge of chinese cartoons will get him far in life.
>If you breed with your enemy, you are destroyed.
But if you breed with your enemy, doesnt' it make your enemy breed with his enemy?
Quiet, UCB.
Kneel, pet.
We're the CHADS of Yea Forums and you are nothing.
Idk. It's obvious that the vegeta/goku/jiren fan spamshit is just one guy replying to himself.
Which is to say I stand by my correction. Sorry for any misunderstandings.
All they had to do is let Buu absorb them for a bit.
Be quiet schizo and stop hijacking my post.
He's back
Corpse fucker, but did you use your tongue or is the answer outside of skippy black texting sodden with vegemite going to definitive on that enormous quantum e penis?
Wrong franchise ball sucker.
Damn, 3-0 looks like THAT?
Wtf, where's ssg bardock then
33-13 does indeed look like that Milhouse.
Who is this ?
>cats
oh shit gokubros we gotta get our retard out of here!
How are you gentemenz??
check
this
Xeno Trunks
Delusion does.
cope
> Half Saiyan
> Can go SSGod
Eh ? Fuck Heroes
wut
Why wouldn't he go SSG?
Stop impersonating me juan
We aren't talking about the mad dream of Gokeks. AT's will is known. 3-0 is inevitable.
Gonna say, and then leave this to the real Shadman - probably...eh France post.
>Return the slab or suffer my curse!
Beat and the other avatar Saiyans can go SSG, and they're all just human kids. Trunks is more Saiyan than any of them.
Heroes makes me want to vomit
You want me, stop lying.
this is why horizontal progression >>>>>>>>>> vertical progression
>New Saint Seiya animation released on Netflix
>Spics second most favorite anime
>61 Posters
>207 Replies
>52 images
>NOT EVEN A SINGLE JIRENFAG ON THIS THREAD!!!
Coincidence?
Heroes girls are best girls
Forgot the pic
Yes actually, a big one too@!!!
???
I accept your concession.
>SSG Trunks Xeno
Furfags BTFO.
We're out of softdrinks, have some hard porn instead. Sssshhh, you didn't get it from me!
I'm sure the voices in your head told you a lot of other things.
Spoilers for the next episode of Heroes btw
Soon
>Shit designs
God, the new saiyan armors are fucking stupid and lacks logic.
My issue with Moro is how his gimmick feels like it just exists to explain how he could possibly go toe to toe with Goku and Vegeta.
And really, you could see this issue goes all the way back to Z, after the Frieza Saga. Because really, when you've already had your heroes defeat the strongest in the universe, where DO you go from there?
Super had the opportunity to rectify this issue when it had 11 other universes to explore. Toriyama could have made it so that every other universe was monstrously powerful, and made Goku and Vegeta look like flies in comparison. But instead, you get the Universe 6 tournament where only Hit manages to win legitimately, and the Tournament of Power. Where Universe 11 ends up being the only real contender.
Trunks and Chronoa son from the future.
P-PLEASE DON'T HIT ME LORD BEJITA SAMA!!
Chronoa is a criminal
Trunks deserves better
Basically Toriyama's shit writing happening again. Unfortunately he refuses to retire. They fear the GT hate meme happens again if he quit.
DON'T WORRY KAKAROT THE ONLY HITTING WILL BE YOUR ON YOUR WOMAN'S ASSCHEEKS
>Broly FPSS
Non canon fags btfo. Really, they were anyway when the manga told you to watch the movie and nothing contradicts the movie
When has his writing never been shitty? Honestly I wish he would just kill off the Old Guard cast already, instead of letting what used to be cool fun characters like Tien, Piccolo, Yamcha, etc from DB.
They went from having fun character arcs to running gags and cheerleaders.
Submersibles are difficult to pin downed planes on Glasses Jojo.
It wasn't teased as a big reveal, it was teased as him him using another wish up his sleeve. And it worked. He immediately won again and has an army capable of taking out the heroes because of the wish. Last time that happened was King Piccolo.
I mean, GT has the same problem if you ask me. And thats that its too afraid to actually just create a new characters thats legitimately stronger than Goku and Vegeta without being related to our heroes in some way.
Baby is a threat because he takes over the bodies of existing characters. Existing characters we know to be powerful.
Super 17 for some reason is a previous DBZ villain/antagonist fused with an evil copy.
The shadow dragons seem to exist purely as a response to the criticism of how Goku and friends can just make a wish on the dragon balls to undo anything bad.
It's why I love Hit, and as bland as he is, can appreciate Jiren. Because both these guys are just dudes who happen to really strong. Of course the thing is, both of these guys are the subjects of tournament arcs.
So they're not really evil or villains as they are just opponents. Which means we're not necessarily all that emotionally invested in their downfall.
It didn't need any teasing since it was so simple and straightforward. Dragging the mystery out for two chapters was unnecessary and ultimately really disappointing
>finally get a villain who doesn't rely on boring brute strength to win
>whines
This fandom is cancer
Call G-Man Lives for this case Holmes!!
Another issue is he won't allow the Saiyans to breath in space yet... still. Which limits the actual battlegrounds and would allow them to visit whatever universe or toxic planet they want.
Who's that dude? Give me a quick rundown
Thing is, energy absorption just means that he eats OTHER people's brute strength to become stronger. I wouldn't call that especially creative.
And it's not like Toyotaro CAN'T make creative fight scenes. Merus zipping around on rocket boots and using all his sci-fi gadgets has been fun so far. As was Majin Buu's fight with Moro, since he basically behaves like a looney toon.
Zeno
I mean, even in this arc, the characters have access to space ships.
What I want to know is, why did we have to go back to Namek? The planet Toriyama intentionally made boring so he wouldn't have to spend much time drawing complex backgrounds?
Is a man his clothing choices?
Well, no one could have expected it.
>he wish for his master to be free
>his realm to open
>Kai's God powerz
>Immortality
>he want youth
Any wish would have been a disappointment, be it spic wishes or immortality. At least this was surprising. Dude accomplished his goals so far, and Vegeta is now trying to learn a gimmick. At least 2 more chapters of something different incoming.
Spaceships flying to a static battleground vs a solar system as the battleground. Instead of Namek we could have people getting punched through suns and landing on dead worlds instead of it only being dead worlds.
Exit the jobber.
Or you know, you could have just made a visually interesting planet for our characters to fight on.
I know the in-universe reason for the characters fighting in wastelands is for the sake of not involving innocents. But at the end of the day, speeding past buildings as crowds of onlookers watch bewildered is always going to look better than a flat, sterile background.
kek based
Based
What the fuck bros, I thought Super Saiyan Full Power was non-canon Toei fiction in the canon movie..... why would Toyotaro betray us and draw it?
I'll help
Because the name of the show “dragonball” as of now they have 2 sets of dragonballs (earth, super balls) left
So anything the goat does can be reversed
pepsi monster
That’s why zamaus is the best villain he won, he’s goals were realistic and the only way to beat him was to destroy everything it ended on a happy ending a shitty one but trunks could not save his timeline and failed future Gohan
Champa.
Zamasu was a whiny faggy retard who represents that he's not the kind of a villain for DB.
I could make a better story and manga than Toyotaco
the series could have been written better for decades, it's too late to salvage it now.
Nani?!
Why does Yea Forums hate Dragon Ball Z?
Wait, what is this?
The only jobber here is Jobren.
Has anyone translated these?
All these characterfag shitposts are just poor imitations of the legendary Gohanfag vs Cauliflafag war
seething.
I WANT GAY FRIEZA LIPS
Frieza in a dress does things to my straightness
Enter CHADren.
HOLY BASED
>It's morning on spic lands
>Jirenfags are starting to join the thread
Kneel.
newfag detected
It's morning in Europe. Cope.
holy shit. joblyfags destroyed.
Seething toei drone.
The manga is the canon material.
AAAAAAYA
Not an argument.
No wonder Jiren doesn't have a dick
> Homosexual Doglyfaggot always talking about dicks and men ass
Oh, the hipocrisy
Do you think these three end up hooking up with Tien, Yamcha, and Yajirobe?
No one:
(You): M-muh Yajirobe
I want the right one to choke me to death
Beerus’s smile.
I like Dragon Ball Super.
>Jobrenfags seething
Based.
I accept your concession.
White is pretty bland huh?
Just dropping this here.
Sorry i'm taking it back
Facts generally don’t need any argument.
Zamasu's immortalitu was also a gimmick
How do you think AT will set-up and drive home 3-0?
based
Speaking of Cell, what would you guys think about Redemption Cell character arc?
If you think about it he's got to have some sort of good in him since he dosen't only have the aggressive and downright evil traits of Frieza and Vegeta, but we've since that a big motivator for him was to fight the strongest in the world a total Goku thing to do. Maybe he has Goku's and the Z Fighter's benevolence somewhere in there too?
So wouldn't it make sense for a potential for him to have a chance of being redeemed like Buu and even more than Frieza since his "redemption" was more of convince for the universe.
>inb4 "he literally ate people"
So did Buu, plus Buu literally killed every human on Earth.
>"T-THE MOVIES ARE CANON TO THE ANIME GUYS, ITS ANIMATED BY TOEI!! THE MANGA CANON IS A SEPARATE THING
HAHAHAHAHAHA TOEISHITTERS BTFO ONCE AGAIN
Buu was obviously misguided and retarded, Cell killed people either to amuse himself or to get stronger. He knew where he stood morally.
Also Beerus is a petulant genocidal maniac who kills billions of people without second thought if they slightly irk him or if he doesn't like their food. Yet he is sort of one of the "good guys" or at the very least a neutral protagonist, since he's always helping them out and has basically become their friend.
This fucking HACK couldn't even be bothered to have Goku and Vegeta be battle damaged. Fuck I hate this guy
Moro cant suck huge amountsbof energy while fighting so it would've worked if it wasnt for his new army
> This guy... Again.
>Jobly
>damaging anyone in battle
HOLY based
Cells less than a year old.
>everyone:talking about SS Broly
>this guy: B-BUT MUH BASELY
My dick
seriously why is regenerated Moro so cute?
Wrong again, we're talking about SSB Goku and Vegeta, i'll save this tho
That brings up a good point, I could either see Cell going full cheesy friend times or more of a Beerus situation where he still looks down on humanity, Gohan the most probably, but has some strange form of new respect or at least tolerance like the God of Destruction.
Funnily enough I could also see Gohan being the ironic catalyst for "redeeming" the genocidal bug man, a frenemey rivalry similar to Goku and Vegeta where Cell wants to surpass Gohan (Though that might easier than he thinks).
Vegeta used to take joy in the death and suffering of others for the longest time in his life while only thinking for himself and his goals, so like DNA-donor like son with Cell.
Jobly is too weak to inflict any battle damage, cope with it.
From the Jump Victory Carnival 2019
That's a cute Goku
Not my fault you speedwatched the entire thing
CHADNIME BROS WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??????? THE SUPER MANGA BEING DISPLAYED SIDE BY SIDE WITH ORIGINAL???? BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE NON-CANON!!!!!
he's just having fun, man
>wojak
You'd be more at home on Yea Forums, user. Go back there.
>that underwhelming description of Jobly's power
Confirmed weakling even in the manga
Can someone draw art of them.
It says that Broly in SS is stronger than Goku and Vegeta in SSB. That's not underwhelming. He is a beast.
>I don't wanna work with kakarot!
how many times will cuckgeta get salty about it? it's getting kinda pathetic
Wait Brolybros?!?!?! Why can't Broly destroy Goku and Vegetas clothing?!?? Jiren did!
>Toyo forgot Goku was shirtless in that scene from the movie
OHNONONONO
>Full Power Broly
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN TOYOBROS IT'S NOT FAIR
Oh, no, what a sin.
Piccolo fixed their clothes you Toeiscoundrel
Did you even watch the movie?
I'm talking about in Toyo's version of events you Toeipissant
>goku and Vegeta lose to Moro
>Goku idea: Flee
>Vegeta idea: Flee to train on a planet of people with broken techniques
So you agree Toyo doesn't follow the Toriyama written movie, then.
Toriyama didn't write that scene. Do your research, Toriyama was not THAT deeply involved in the movie. It was handled just like how the anime was handled. The director is the one who handled most of the movie.
Delusional
Why do these threads get 404'd or archived so fast?
You're ignorant and clueless. Not a surprise, you are a Toeishit
Chads of Yea Forums.
If you're not a pedo, an incel, a cuck... You're not welcome on this board. Thats why mods hate us.
Mods can't handle our powerlevel
Im all three of that and even more
You just want to wank off Goku with your reddit spacing, you retarded faggot
SDBH extra chapter from the Jump Carnival Festival.
BoGku could destroy the fucking universe, at that point its no longer possible to create villains inside of U7 but only outside of U7 like Zamasu for example, and even then Zamasu jobbed to SSJ2 Goku who is like a proton to Godku. Goku Black was strong because he was already fucking Goku with an infinite zenkai hax. Moro is lame because the previous antagonist of the Super Manga was an omnicidal maniac who wanted to kill all life in every dimension you cannot possibly top that without introducing another multiversal threat. Then problem is that Zeno cares about his playset so will just delete any threat to the multiverse so you cant even write up multiversal threats. In Marvel the LT doesnt give a shit until the omniverse gets threatened so all sorts of multiversal bullshit can happen. Moro would have been great in DBZ but in Super he simply doesnt work because the power scale is beyond logic and reason at this point considering most Shitku and Vegeta can nuke the entire universe 7 in one shot there is no reason for them to feel any threats in that reality anymore they are unstoppable, and then there is Beerus who just Ctrl X Moro at anytime he starts to become cancer in U7. They couldnt just Beerus to get rid of Zamasu because the main one was in another reality so not Beerus problem until U7 starts getting threatened.
>Both Toriyama's script and storyboard didn't include Goku's shirt being blown off
>Even though his orange gi AND his blue shirt get destroyed at different times
>Somehow neither of those come from Toriyama
>Toyo's version of the events where Goku and Vegeta have to fuse somehow has them both with immaculate clothing
ok
Who are these deviantart looking assholes?
>literal promo filler cliffnotes
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
>*moans* Thank you mistress!
Demons from the Demon Realm.
Wow that sounds gay, can they turn people to stone with spit like that Dremora guy?
Dragon ball z kai is better than z in almost every way. Is there any point in watching the original?
Maybe? I don't know. Here is the whole manga where they appeared.
>>mangadex.org
And yes, it is shit.
No.
Garbage funky happy-go-lucky meme bubblegum music:
youtu.be
Absolute, pure, distillated KINO:
youtube.com
the sub of the original is better with a filler guide so you know what to skip, dub wise there's no reason to not watch kai
This seems to be the end of the whole 'Universal Conflict" arc. And here is a preview of the next arc, with Trunks SSG fighting against Mechikabura and his followers:
>>twitter.com
Other Trunks, you WILL kiss my Mai. This is your last warning.
> Hehe... Thanks mistress !
SHITrentardos told me Goku and Vegeta held back against Broly...after all Broly BTFO both of them with theirs 2x advanced SSB with a mere SS...SHITrenbros I'm gonna kill myself now...goodbye...
>JOBly can't even make cloth dirty
Another problem is that god ki is barely presented as this otherworldly ki except with the gods using hakai, goku having it in battle of gods and the broly movie. Any other time its pretty much shown as just normal ki but stronger. They get no new techniques from it or anything really special. Only time is goku getting the bullshit technique in broly where he stops him in a stasis field, vegeta punching hakai energy and goku doing hakai in he manga. Other than that it acts and looks just Luke regular ki but a different color.
You mean Toeimongrels?
Full power was in the movie that follows the manga.
Notice I said almost. The music is the only thing better about the original. Kai looks much better, the voice cast in both sub and dub is better and it's paced a lot better even with removing the filler in the original. The original series is much longer because the shots are much longer, there isn't that many actual filler episodes.
>ohhh yeahh... harder, Goddess, harder!
But the manga follows the movie
>Only time is goku getting the bullshit technique in broly where he stops him in a stasis field
Which was basically a shameless copy of Hit's Time Lag.
>Cloth
ESL SHITrentard I don't see GODly's armor dirty
Base GODly >>> SHITren confirmed!?
Based ToyoCHAD coming through once again!
>actual ESL doesn't know cloth is a word
>The music is the only thing better about the original.
Opinion IMMEDIATELY discarded
Based, Jobrentards seething kek.
I noticed it was the same when I saw it the first time. I went " oh wow he copied hit's technique". I'm tired of goku stealing techniques when was the last time he used his own or made one.
>Paco thinks "cloth" isn't a word
>Fails to realize how Kekly canonically couldn't even scrape Goku and Vegeta
What else was better? Saying my opinion is discarded does not mean anything if you can't elaborate
>ESL SHITrentard doesn't know what a cloth is
ESL MONgrelren said that Goku and Vegeta are wearing cloths!
> when was the last time he used his own or made one.
All his techniques are from other people.
>Kamehameha (Muten Roshi)
>Taiyōken (Ten Shin Han)
>Genkidama & Kaioken (Kaio)
>IT (Yadrat)
>Fusion Dance (Metamoran)
>Hakai (Beerus)
>Time Lag (?) (Hit?)
>Paco still has no idea what cloth is
This is too easy. Let this be a reminder to go easy on the Cucklyspics, Jirenbros.
I know remember his only two moves he made. Meteor combination and paper,sciccors rock. That's about it. I wish he went back to meteor combo that shit was great when he beat the ever living shit out of Piccolo with it.
>If I samefag more it will make me not look like an illiterate ESL SHITrentard
Too late for that now SHITrentard
You are only digging your hole deeper, paco.
>no argument
>has to accuse legion Jirenbros of samefagging
It's literally over for Paco.
>This much damage control after being exposed once again as an ESL SHITrentard
*JOBly can't even make cloth dirty* referring to events in a manga page
ESL babble
SHITrentards are truly pathetic without a dictionary kek
Is the SDBH manga even online?
Rushes aren't techniques
It's not like he's without his own achievements. He attained SSJ and created SSJ3.
You've been humiliated and exposed ESL tard, this is what happens when you try to act superior around quadruple digit IQ Jirenscholars.
Let it be forever known that according to Mexico, Goku doesn't wear cloth.
Transformations aren't techniques
>Janken
Grandpa Gohan.
It's clothes you ESL SHITrentard samefag mongoloid
Cloths are pieces of fabric.
Clothes are garments or pieces of clothing, like shirts and pants.
Lmao screecapped all of this
>J
Also, SS3 is a jobber form.
I wouldn't call something that ends with a kame creative also, Shithan abuelo taught Goku rock scissors paper
So what if you're right? You're still wrong, shameless worm, fucking kneel already i'm tired
>Jobrenspics
>Paco continues to expose himself, thinking clothing isn't made from cloth
You do realize you're alone on this one don't you?
*ahem*
said the following:
>JOBly can't even make cloth dirty
This is a sentence that is both grammatically and semantically 100% correct.
ESL paco (you) pretends there is something wrong with it.
>ESL SHITrentard doesn't know what a cloth is
>ESL MONgrelren said that Goku and Vegeta are wearing cloths!
Unfortunately for you, no one falls for your cheap tricks. Everyone can see how you "subtly" inserted an indefinite article ('a' cloth) into the topic, and then expanded on it to the plural form.
But this is not what said. He was talking about cloth without indefinite article.
To help your ESL self comprehend the difference, I will quote the OED.
>cloth, n.
>II. As a material: Without a in sing. (except when meaning `a kind of cloth', in which sense `cloths' occurs in pl.).
>cloth, n.
>9. a. A name given, in the most general sense, to every pliant fabric woven, felted, or otherwise formed, of any animal or vegetable (or even mineral) filament, as of wool, hair, silk, the fibres of hemp, flax, cotton, asbestos, spun glass, wire, etc. But when used without qualification or contextual specification, usually understood to mean a woollen fabric such as is used for wearing apparel.
Note the "without 'a' in singular". My fellow Jirenscholar was saying nothing else than that Jobly is too weak to damage fabric (not "pieces of fabric", as you claim). Nothing about the sentence is wrong. Your lies have been exposed. It's over. No amount of mental gymnastics will get you out.
Never, ever try to one-up a Jirenscholar again.
>>quadruple digit IQ Jirenscholars.
>Doesn't know what a cloth is
>falseflags as someone else to help "his" ESL SHITrenbro
BROLYBROS HELP!!!!!!
Dark Demon Realm Mission! Arc:
>>mangadex.org
Universe Mission Arc:
>>mangadex.org
Universal Conflict Arc (raws)
>>beshamaru.tumblr.com
Brolybros... I think Jirenscholars are a little too smart for us...
HOLY FUCKING BASED THE IQ IS TOO HIGH
Nice.
>>a cloth
Keklyspic, stop embarassing yourself.
Put me on the screencap
We need to bring back Zangya
>let me copypasta this thing here I have been googling for the last 30 minutes
Funny how ESL SHITrentards always disappear when they get debunked only to show up hours later with blogposts!
Holy shit. It's OVER.
>sweden
>germany
>UK
>white people
>newspic doesn't know what copypasta is
>It's the Oxford dictionary ESL SHITrentard again
Manga chapter threads, meaning there's at least some sense of order. But 1 week later and it's back to avatarfagging chaos.
Wow girls are so SMART
>spic thinks using Pedrohan as a pic will protect his identity
>has no argument
HOLY BASED
This is truly an obsession. Jirenchads are literally rent free on your little mind 24/7
Dragon fist is the only one that he made on his own and it's kind of not canon depending on if you want consider the movie canon. Of course it's been said that all DBZ movies are not canon and of course GT isn't canon anymore or rather an alternate timeline at this point.
>samefagging this much
ESL jobrenmierdas doesn't know what a piece of cloth is Top jej
> S...Samefagging !!
>jobrenmierdas doesn't know
HAHAHAH look at this fucking spic and laugh.
Cope Juanita
>cloths
HAHAHHAHAHAHAH
I accept your concession
This has to be the cleanest BTFO I've seen in months. Bravo.
>ESL sameSHITrentard still seething
Imagine being debunked and exposed so hard that you need to run away!
>ESL jobrenmierdas doesn't know
I refuse to believe this isn't some subtle bait. It HAS to be some falseflag. Someone this retarded should not exist.
Basedren
Based Hermano de Jiren
Its another case of Jirenscholars humiliating their "opponents". I've seen this before.
>Keklyfag is mindbroken
It's over.
Screencap it for posterity.
Owari da.
Reminder that Jiren lost 3 times in ToP, and only external factors outside his control helped him through 2 of them.
It's another case of the sameSHITrentard posting the same images and webms and being exposed as an ESL brainlet.
Falseflagging as a different SHITrentard and mass samefagging is nothing new to this schizo.
Reminder that every time he gets exposed he runs away, only returns with copied texts from the internet and from some gay English dictionary.
BROKEN.
>thinks English dictionaries are "gay"
Oh it shows, Paco.
S-SHITrenbros...say it ain't so...
of course not fellow CHADchad chad CHADchad
user believes it's a samefag, but in reality CHADren is a popular character with a huge fanbase here in /dbs/. I think he has developed an unhealthy obsession with CHADren.
>some gay English dictionary.
Truly an affront to intellectualism. Perspicacity itself is being fouled by this repugnant post. The great minds of recent times must be rolling in their graves.
Based!
You just proved his point, Shitrendog.
On another note, why don't any of the contumacious dogs in this thread know how to properly COPE for their divine and superior master?
Properipity*
>Its another
BASED ESLrenbro!
Imagine how powerful he'd be if he actually did serious training
WHAT THE HECK BROLYBROS...........
>intruding in foreign conversations.
Cease this behaviour.
So the faggot that keeps spamming yamete begita san webm is the ESL shitrenbro?
I would expect a Gohan arc in the manga after this one but I think Toyotaro and the DB Room believe Gohan already had his time to shine with the battle against Kefla.
>GODrenlords
>ESL
???
I know I'm based. Don't need to tell me.
>Canada is literally the least white country out of the four
>doesn't mention it
t. 56% mutt
>Goku defeated Frieza, Trunks killed Frieza off
>Gohan killed Cell
>Goku killed Kid Buu
>Goku fought Beerus to the point of convincing him to spare earth
>Goku killed Golden Frieza
>Goku fought Hit to a standstill and won the Tournament for Universe 7 (after Hit easily defeated Vegeta)
>Trunks killed Fused Zamasu
Why does Vegeta never get to kill a main villain?
We will job in BackYardrattata
>let me samefag my own post 11 times
>no one will notice that there's only one mongoloid SHITrentard replying
Accurate and basedpilled
>you are everyone
But not everyone is undefeated against Goku. Speaking of which, you may only reply to this post if you are undefeated against Gokek. I'll start with a double dose.
Jobgeta didn't win though, CHADly was too much even for SSB Gogeta.
As expected of the strongest.
Holy motherfucking based. Jirenschoolers really are the CHADS of Yea Forums
Daily reminder that dbs is only a money machine to fool former fans of dragonball which was a shit manga only being able to survive because of the lack of other alternatives
Because he's not the MC. The only time someone else truly killed the villain was Gohan, who AT WANTED to make the MC.
Trunks didn't kill Zamasu, but he got the closest thing to it (anime only) - again, because he was the central character of the arc.
Bejita won't kill the villain until he becomes the MC of an arc at least.
HOLY FUCK SHITRENBROS WHAT THE...
>paranoid schizo calling other schizo
>sees a Vegetachad behind every post
>keeps fucking up and blames janitors/mods
>they must be Vegetachads
I don't know about all that, but...Well, you know. 2-0 and all.
Quiet you dumb, stupid tourist.
>lack of alternatives
Found the zoomer.
>Bejita won't kill the villain until he becomes the MC of an arc at least.
So never.
>Holy motherfucking based. Jirenschoolers really are the CHADS of Yea Forums
There are no words to describe the beauty and splendor of Jirenbros.
Nope.
>non-canon
>only the back
Let Bejita-sama show you how it is done, little man.
IDGAF its comfy and I enjoy it. Future Trunks saga was a bit disappointing but Universe 6 was pure kino. Is Universe Survival saga good?
Yes. Moro arc looks like it COULD go that direction with the whole "avenge New Namek" shit, but it's highly, highly unlikely.
Last 3 episodes are some peak kino too
>fuse Goku and Vegeta
>have him just use Goku's worst borrowed offensive ki attack
Just fucking atrocious.
Cell had absorption and regeneration
Buu had even more powerful absorption and regeneration, plus turning people into candy
Zamasu had immortality and Black had his bullshit zenkais
Jiren was pretty much the only with no gimmick other than being super strong, even Freeza at least had transformations and being ridiculously durable without regeneration
As I sit and pontificate upon esoteric ponderances such as the scope of the universe, the meaning of existence, and the magnificence of Jiren the Gray, I find myself quite often contemplating upon the incongruous audacity of this magnanimous character's detractors. Are they simply envious of us? As intellectual titans of the highest caliber, such a conclusion would not be unfounded. Might it be that they are intimidated? As a studious arbiter of logical thought, I have been privy to--and, in some instances, been the proprietor of--many instances of naysayers' intellectual dismemberment at the hands of the myriad Jirenscholars, so this hypothesis, too, has its merits.
It takes a true scholarly mind and unflinching perseverance in the face of adversity and criticism to maintain such an unflinching level of intellectual honesty and peerless perspicacity that has become the hallmark of the Jirenscholars. Perhaps, rather than crush them underfoot as helpless insectoids, utilizing our collective titanic intellect as a proverbial boot, we should show them a modicum of pity and extend to them the enlightened hand of the Grayy Church. Pity and reliance on others, of course, is the bane of the cultivation of true inner strength, but some beings begin life too weak to seek it out on their own. They are simply dealt a poor hand, but they must rise above it instead of fighting blindly against it with childish insults, jejune arguments, and a veritable maelstrom of logical fallacies that they tirelessly pepper us with in a neverending, fruitless onslaught.
It is our duty, brethren, to show ALL peoples the way. Even those that seek to turn from it. GLORY AND APPROBATION TO JIREN THE GRAY!
No.
>Trunks didn't kill Zamasu, but he got the closest thing to it (anime only)
Again proving that the CHADchadchad is the canon source.
DBS is factually bad, with the manga being slightly less terrible than the anime. Dragon Ball, however, was a groundbreaking manga that set the bar for all shonen following it. Literally every shonen that exists today took influence from Dragon Ball in some way. To argue against this is to fruitlessly argue against facts.
Very based
This is the smartest post on the Internet, Jesus Christ
Yep, samefag that started all of this and then falseflags as another SHITrentard that saves the day for all the SHITrentards with his Oxford dictionary LMAO
jesus, so based...
who is this tea bitch?
>Imagine claiming to be this strong and somehow getting their universe rebooted still
>avatarfagging
where?
Holy FUCKING based
Every FUCKING thread, another brilliant Jirenscholar drops intellectual tomes of turgid thought amongst the incessant ESL babbling of the Copelycamels
How the FUCK are we so FUCKING smart??? Is it just CHADren's influence upon us???
His father was a criminal. His bloodline deserves a high born god mixed into the royal line. See what a three-way hybrid offers.
These spic lore memes were never funny and anyone who posts them needs to kill themselves
Jirenscholars, how are we so superior than everyone?
>posts some irrelevant shitty moe anime that no one cares about
NEXT
It is the influence of Jiren the Gray as well as the teachings of the Grayy Church that elevate our intellectual prowess and perspicacity above the common rabble, fellow Jirenprofessor.
n-no jirenbros we got too cocky
Nope, too much effort! *Raughs*
These designs are pretty trash tier. I like the idea of doing something with the Makai, but not the way any of them look. Or really their powers, personality, etc.
The design seems okay.
Not kawaii enough.
So is the series EVER going to address or acknowledge the fact that Beerus is a piece of shit who sucks at his jobs, let almost all the kais die, and left the universe in the hands of Shin, who had no idea what he was doing?
>Jirenschoolers
>SHITrentards are mostly underage kids
What a fucking surprise!
As I said, no alternatives. The initial idea might have been good, but the plot was shit.
You don't know what you're talking about, underage spic.
Aside from just looking bad, they forget to actually protect most of the wearer. More of the body should be covered, not less.
...
You'd have to take into account the shitfits and tantrums Dragon Ball's nu-fanbase would throw on social media if 17 ever got any stronger
>all those worthless forms
Mystic, god ki and KK might still be worth less than UI alone, but I don't know that this is a real option for someone that isn't retarded like Gokek. The rest don't mean shit for sure, however. While we're playing pretend (with abilities we don't know him to have the option of with his turbo mutt status), have him keep using multi-body and juniors then fusing with them (Namek style).
>As I said, I concede. I'm just a salty Hiatusbitch and I can't stop crying over my shitty inferior series.
FTFY
>redemption
Not especially interested.
>Goku thing
Goku was the most useless person in his DNA (up until a double dip gave him IT, anyway) even with Cold just being there for some reason. Should have been Tien. Even without him, the bug-brain (even lower than a lizard) still mainly used Kamehameha (and died for it).
He was quite a few years older before regressing. Even allowing for just after he came out of his 'full bug' form as the time of 'birth', he is programmed with info from Gero's computer (and all his old memories). He's far from an innocent clean slate.
He isn't just Vegeta (before any genetic memory related to becoming a good person). He's also Frieza (and Cold). Piccolo is in there, but his face turn won't help much. Goku's brain damage shouldn't really factor so strongly (a violent shit to Grandpa Gohan before taking a tumble). And a bug (with absorbed cyborg teens for what little they're worth with almost no chance to do anything).
I am humbled and confounded by this man's verbal prowess. I can only hope to, one day, reach this level of eloquence, diction and elegance in speech.
>another 18 rip-off like voredroid
He was only rung out once. You don't lose multiple times in this setting.
My point is user if he has the potential to be evil with the "evil" genes in him he must have a potential to be "good" as well, or at least some sort of anti-hero.
This is a hell of a cope.
>kills
Win condition taken further beyond, I see. He identity killed Super Buu (strongest canon foe).
>speaks of a non-kill over Hit
Ah, neat. Speaking of which, Vegeta has defeated the main character twice (once as the main villain). Shall we go over assists in beating the main villain, too?
>into dark hair and short men
You sure about that?
>this retard thinks Super Buu is stronger than Beerus