Why do you fags always assume manga canonicity takes precedent over anime canonicity, and that if something occurs in an anime but not manga, then it's "non-canon" even in cases where the anime came out first?
Why do you fags always assume manga canonicity takes precedent over anime canonicity...
>even in cases where the anime came out first
Literally never happened. Literally nobody claims NGE manga is canon
>even in cases where the anime came out first
I’ve never seen someone claim a manga adaptation has priority over the anime original.
The canon of the original always takes precedent over an adaptation except maybe in the case where the original author/scriptwriter is involved in the adaptation.
>even in cases where the anime came out first
The only cases where this happened was when both the anime and manga were adaptations of something else and the manga ended up being more faithful.
I always treat it as anime, manga, and LN all have their own canon version of events.
What happens when both are released in conjunction with each other? Does the manage or anime take precedent?
This works in some cases and not in the others. If you have adaptation break off at some point it's reasonable to look at this that way. But if you have adaptation cutting or adding some things but having to converge with the original version of events in major moments regardless of what came earlier (often creating plotholes), then it's hard to look at the adaptation's world as "universe" of its own.
In that case, manga is always just an accessory, i.e. Madoka Magica.
Hol up
>Why do you fags always assume manga canonicity takes precedent over anime canonicity
Usually because adaptations are done but other companies and are traditionally not completely accurate to their source material.
>and that if something occurs in an anime but not manga, then it's "non-canon"
An example of what is often called "filler", usually made when the manga needs to catch up with the anime to justify a new arc. Often times these episodes are created within the studio with no input from the actual writers of the franchise and they're made simply for the sake of being made to finish a season or contract.
>"even in cases where the anime came out first"
I've literally never heard of this, but I suppose if it theoretically happened then the manga would be an adaptation of the anime and be subject to the same scrutiny and tendency to be non-canon as anime adaptions of manga.
The point to be made is adaptations way from source material and with little input of the author are generally regarded to be inferior because of their tendency to deviate from canon for dramatic effect or financial gain. I have no idea what you're on about because I thought that was obvious.
>not completely accurate to their source material
That's never a good or bad thing. Adaptation can fuck shit up or improve it tenfold. Should a vastly better adaptation be considered non-canon just because the manga was first?
>Why do you fags always assume manga canonicity takes precedent over anime canonicity, and that if something occurs in an anime but not manga, then it's "non-canon" even in cases where the anime came out first?
The only time this kind of shit is even debated is when the anime showed the ending and somehow the manga/LN slightly deviates from it (Akame, and 2 other cases I forgotten about), even then its mostly due to creative differences (anime staff and author wants to do something else)
The original release is always canon
>I've literally never heard of this
Franxx manga
quality=/=canon
source = canon
>K-on! anime is not canon
According to whom? It's your arbitrary definition. All the canon talk is autistic bullshit anyway.
>Should a vastly better adaptation be considered non-canon just because the manga was first?
Yes. Canonicity is not about quality, it's about continuity. The original manga only cares about what the manga has established and the manga won't bend over backwards to tie in with the anime just because it's really really good. it will always tie in with its own past continuity.
An anime adaption always takes second stance to the source material. If they establish one thing on their own and then something later in the manga contradicts that then they will once the time comes follow the manga and without hesistation contradict their own thing.
You can never take anything established by the anime as canon because it's always in danger of being contradicted by the manga and therefore by the later anime.
Or, instead of arguing like a bunch of autists over which work is canon or otherwise, we can simply treat them as separate continuities. If someone wants to discuss K-on! manga continuity, he's free to do so, but he'll be talking to himself, since no one actually read that shitty manga.
K-on doesn't really deviate from source though
The source material is always the canon. The same goes for books. Any changes you make to the source material are not canon, it doesn't matter what the source material is, the source material is the canon.
That's true for quite a few light novel series that had both anime and manga adaptations, the manga tends to stick closer to the source material.
Yeah what so hard to figure out?