Is he a Gary Stu?
Is he a Gary Stu?
I'd Gary your Stu, if you catch my drift
He's Japanese Superman so yes he's a Gary Stu.
Yes. Toriyama is a hack and Vegeta was wasted potential.
Hardcore facts
>Has to work to achieve his goals
No
no Vegeta works hard
Goku is born with natural talent
retard
>I've haven't read DB or anything prior to the Android saga, the post
Are you pretending to be stupid as a joke?
Why is he such a non-character? Only fightfags actually like him, and they're unfortunately a lot of the anime viewerbase
>non-character
Goku's character is been established for literally decades now. How do you not get it yet?
You cant be a mary sue character and the MC at the same time by definition, a mary sue is a perfect flawless author self insert that budgers into someone else's story for the writer's wish fullfillment. They are mutually exclusive.
Also Goku has lots of flaws.
It's really hard for wolfaboo edgelords who swear they have secret powers and channel Dark Flame Master as their go-to RP avatar to relate to a backwoods hick who likes lifting, fighting, and eating. DBZ is only relatable to hard-working, low-income people like Latinos and blacks, as opposed to coddled, scrawny little white boys.
I'm black and think it's shit
Uncle Tom Oreo bitch ass nigga that uses shea instead of cocoa butter
>he is strong and he never loses so he's a Mary Sue!
God I hate this bullshit. Being an invincible protagonist, even if poorly written, doesn't make someone a Mary Sue. Mary Sues are ONLY if a work largely revolves around making a character out to be cool in flimsily justified ways as a proxy for the author. Goku is strong because he needs to be as strong as the new antagonist, and beats him so that his story never suffers a setback which fucks up the momentum, losing the mangaka readers. Toriyama gives zero shits about sucking Goku's dick for its own sake.
What the fuck?? How did you get here?? Can you take me back with you?? In our reality, we have this thing called Return of F, it's a movie, but don't watch it, I would hate for you to bring that taint back wherever you came from and ruin your population.
That movie was fucking pointless. It wasn't even Mary Sue wish fulfillment, just pointless. The new villain was a non-threat, to Goku or Vegeta. It was just a shitty piggyback film to buffer the space between God's and DBS, and to allow frieza to participate in future arcs, like Broly seems to have done.
Yes. The only reason he gets away with the stupid shit he constantly pulls is because of how OP PLS NERF he is, and everyone's constantly sucking his cock because he's SOOOOO STROOOOONG.
more seems like toriyama just forces everyone in-universe to accept the bullshit as he remembers it like with vegeta taking blame for what nappa did to the extent he says he killed piccolo when they never fought yet nobody corrects him. goku acts like a lunatic and everyone is fine with it just because. ignores his family and friends for many years at a time even during peace
but you're not black
If I recall correctly, his name is Son Goku. I like him. I think hes a pretty cool guy. Eh fights aliens and doesnt afraid of anything.
he's a gag hero.
When was the last time Goku won a fight without help from someone else?
I can't imagine being too stupid to follow Dragonball.
No, the only kill he had in the entirety of Z was kid buu and he needed major help.
He loses more than he wins actually but he still works hard and is strong
nigga can't even handle father time
got heart problems and shit for not training
typical american
Goku is the literal definition of 'retard strength'.
.... you are funneh gai
Not by definition no.
A Gary Stu would already be the best without having to work for it. Goku has worked hard from everything he has, and we see his growth throughout the franchise, we wouldn't see that with a Gary Stu.
no, gary stu much like their female counter part has to be intelligent and perfect across the board. Along with never creating problems but fixing them. Goku not only is dumb as fuck he is the cause of most of earths problems. Goku saved the earth from others sure but some of those are in response to Goku just existing or Goku asked for it. Goku keeps fucking up and he pulls through in OG dragonball, but as time goes on the guy makes more and more bad decisions. The man goes from adventurous spirit who loves to fight, to "bored moron who thinks the dragonballs will fix everything so its fine" kind of guy.
You can say he is on the fence of apathetic to sympathetic when dealing with villains. "Sure killing namekians is bad but you know frieza, there is this tournament and I will bring you back to life if we win. Oh hey Goat Space Wizard you cant kill these namekians, thats friezas thing!"
But in all seriousness, if anything Goku can be considered his own antagonist because of his curiosity and lust for fighting. No Gary Stu would do this.
>selfish
>dumb
>was literally rejected by his own race for being garbage
No
Vegeta is a retard and Goku is the only character to try anymore.
Fuck, i forgot minus existed for a second there
vegeta was born an elite warrior, higher battle power than all the other saiyans. Except broly, but still goku only has his lust to fight and regular saiyan progression. Vegeta only started training after frieza died.
No. Goku gets his ass kicked constantly. He even died twice in the series. Goku has tons of flaws and I don't think toriyama self inserts as Goku. I think piccolo is the one he said he identified with most.
No, goku makes a shit tons of mistakes during the series and is very inmature for someone of his age
Goku is literally the most hard working person in the show, nobody has trained as hard as him