Lord El-Melloi II Case Files

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soul degradation doesnt seem to be a problem with DAs for some reason, i mean theres thousand year old plus DAs

Bloodlust is easily controlled by drinking blood and he has all the treasures of the world AND can withstand the grail's corruption...

Waver prefers energetic, jovial onee-san types.

God i wish that were me.

Waver is a pathetic homolord and needs to man up instead of forcing Gray to wear a hood.

I don't think he ever met a DA in his lifetime, I think Jester was the first one he ever met

This is rape.

I thought he like red heads.

Where the fuck is the spinoff where WaverxTaiga is a thing, Nasu you HACK?!

That would be adorable as fuck.

Where is my Taiga stay night route?

>Returns to Fuyuki to dismantle the Holy Grail
>Meets Fuji-nee again
>Waver gets all flustered

Wait Waver met Taiga?

What do we think of the ED?
youtube.com/watch?v=Jy5Y5yOL_Yw

Oh yes

It's hilarious how they acidentally made the idea so kino.

>Both ended up teachers
>In fact Waver inspired her to be a teacher, way before he even consideed the idea of teaching himself
>Both are manchildren
>Waver ended up being Kiritsugu 2.0, at least when it comes to style (can't do anything about the inner wimp)

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>In order to take Fuji-nee as his bride, he needs to prove himself to Shirou
>If he ever hurts Fuji-nee, Shirou will immediately go full magus-mode

>Implying Sords wouldn't go full meddlesome shit on Waver and his sad pathetic life.

Shirou would naturally want Fuji-nee to be happy. The important question is whether Fastwheels 2 can do that. It's already extremely questionable if a Lord from the Clock Tower would be able to make someone like Fuji-nee happy. She probably wouldn't want to leave Fuyuki, but Fastwheels 2 can't leave England forever either.

So that’s why she was the welfare

>110% bitter 220% of the time
>Curses like a sailor
>Would accidentally piss off Yakuza family with some smartass comment
It's a nice idea but the cold reality is that it wouldn't work, even if the distance thing could be handled. Not like it matters, the whole thing would be over the moment spergs out over videogames trying to make conversation, like he did with RIn.

He really is the worst.

Tea party with ojou-sama lolis in cute fancy clothes.

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El Saber Blanco

>tfw no volumen hydrargyrum maid

>Olga Marie
She trapped in eternal suffering. No cute tea parties for her.

False. CHALDEAS and Sheba got blown the fuck up.

not in the Case Files timeline

Get that cunt Alien Priestess away from my girl Reines

That's Olga Marie. The alien priestess is Abigail Williams.

>he doesn't know

Nah. Olga is the Priestess of the God of the Foreign Star aka U-chan.

I don't think it was covered in Ufotable adaption, LN only

gilamesh got humbled and toned down after enkidu's death

Gray has used hood long before Waver met her though. She literally asked him to keep hating her face during their first meeting.

The fucking engrish caused me physical pain. Is that common with type moon works?

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The Unlimited Blade Works chant is all engrish
yes

Eye'm za bohn of my swod

How the fuck is gray related to saber

Probably related to Morgan

Half the Round Table was related to Saber.

Case Files Timeline is best timeline for several reasons. Olga not experiencing a horrible terrible eternal death is one of them

So does she have a crush on Waver or something? I know she is the waifubait of the series.

At the very least, he's probably a better Onii-chan than Kayneth was.

Its one I won't ever skip.

youtu.be/XuQ2eEycn_A?t=29

A bowl of jello would be a better onni-chan then Kayneth. The man had horrible people skills.

Literally no one liked him.

She does, but it seems like she isn't aware of her feelings

Gray is a distant descendant of Saber and since her village decided to use her as the body/vessel for King Arthur, her body is now forcefully (and slowly) transformed into King Arthur's. They even forced Gray to eat mashed potatoes, just like Saber had to eat Gawain's food.

>暗くて (Gray), 浮かれて (Rave), 望んで (Crave), 堕落させて (Deprave).
>刻んで(Grave...), 私に(Me...)
>墓を掘ろう(Grave...), あなたに (For you...)

>Darkness, floats, wishes, corrupt.
>Engrave them, to me.
>Let's dig a grave, to you

Just having King Arthur's body isn't enough to turn you into King Arthur. The villaigers were misguided and they ruined a girl's life as a result.

Dark and gray, raving away
That which you craved has left you depraved
Engraved in me is a grave for you

Their plan is:
1. Gray was supposed to be King Arthur's body
2. The Logos React was supposed to replicate King Arthur's personality/mind
3. the HGW was supposed to replicate King Arthur's soul (like how Gray lost her original face in the 4th HGW and her hair started turning blonde + got a dragon reactor + increased regeneration in the 5th HGW)
By having body and soul and mind together, you have King Arthur.

>Hibiki adjusts her scarf
>Dess makes a bright smile as her helmet shines

Can I just say how much I fucking love the face shots in the transformations? How is it going to be for the other characters?

That's stupid. Saber would reject them outright.

A-user...
Can geahs kill servants?

Waver constantly hangs around with 14-year-olds.

I mean her village are related to Morgan, so...

He's not interested in their cunnies though.

That woman brings nothing but trouble, even centuries after.

Poor girl, she want the dick of a literal (amazing) gay man.
Shame than waver isn't bi like iskandar.

When Iskandar gets summoned back, he really needs to teach his wife (male) about the glorious Greek culture of threeways.

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Wouldn't a certain sword autist go super hero on them if he managed to get a wind of this?

Wouldn't Rule Breaker solve everything instantly? Shirou saw it in all three routes, so he should be able to use it.

If the CF timeline lines up with a HA timeline, there’s actually a pretty good chance of Sord running into Gray and mistaking her for his first wife.

And then Caster finds her.

Case Files is in the same timeline with FSN

Well, who can say. Nasu doesn't even consider Fate/Zero to be in the same timeline as Fate/stay night.

Cutest of the season!

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Hard to say, it's not really akin to a magical contract that we've seen Rule Breaker break though.

who cares about what nasu says at this point, the senile fuck is the one behind grand order after all.

He's just unhappy because Urobuchi's Tokiomi is completely different from his Tokiomi.

Nah. Case Files being the only spin-off that happened in FSN timeline was confirmed long ago. Fate/Zero is slightly different from the 4th HGW in FSN, so it's considered a different timeline.

Imagine being this far up the type moon pile and not realizing every single one of these fucking stories are their own canon at best because the hacks around it can't make a consistent story to save their lives. You will sleep easier understanding that while some things happened they didn't happen as we saw them, that was another universe

Yeah, but Nasu rarely references things written by other people.

4 u

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Was getting waifu'd part of your plan?

I know, but it doesn't change the fact that Case Files happened in FSN timeline tho.

Are you saying Case Files is inconsistent with FSN or what ?

You ever wonder why it was called fate/stay night instead of something sensible like the fated night?

Of course!
Just look at her!

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Cringe

If I took off that hood, would you die?

It would be extremely painful.

You're a small girl.

It would be extremely cute!

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You're a big girl.

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He would've gotten immortality if he wanted that but he didn't, not after he lost the immortality thingy he got from that monster and he realized that shit wasn't what he wanted.

That's the only way Waver will get any action.

>I've solved the mystery! It's so obvious, the victim cut off his head, severed his own limbs, curved out his own entrails, and scattered them in different places throughout the house

>In fact Waver inspired her to be a teacher, way before he even consideed the idea of teaching himself
Wait really?

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He can't get a boner from little girls. Waver prefers a little age to his wine.

How does she keep those tiny hats on her head though?

Speaking of which does he ever show up in case files at all? Or at least Rin shows up?

Hairclips?

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Anyone has the mages title and position in the clock tower image?

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it was if you're at all familiar with the nasuverse

それが本当の魔法だよ、榊原くん。

>show a loli
>turn her into hag next episode

Nope. Case Files is before FSN, only the Grand Roll in vol 10 happened in the same day that Saber got summoned.

>he doesnt experience time backwards

Doesn't arc from anime happen at the same time as FSN?

This one ?
Also Lord of Individual Fundamentals faculty is Solonea, Zoology is Gaiuslink and Curse is Jigmarie

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Why didn't Reines take the offer of Lord Valueleta in volume 2? It's not the El-Melloi are in a good spot with the Barthomelloi with the denbts and rekt magic crest thing and the Lord being some no pedigree mage teaching modern magecraft which is like double yuck.

>Aoko
She's actually part of a faction? I'd heard that he showed up at the front desk, got sick of it immediately and just left.

So Melvin isn't a bad guy? He looked like he'll backstab Waver anytime now.

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As expected of the shitty sister. She can't even get into good school. What a useless drop out.

No. The original content happen after Iselma and before Rail Zeppelin (which happen in December or November 2003)

She used to study in Celestial Bodies department as mentioned in Clock Tower 2015

Who cares? She can beat any of them up in a fight anyway.

That's the one.
>3/4 of Archeology are evil
What did Nasu mean by this?

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>Touko
>not evil

They're all evil.

Lev himself was a fairly decent guy before he got taken over by Flauros, though. Touko's definitely no good. She kills who she wants, takes what she wants and is hopelessly cruel and selfish. She represents some of the worst aspects of a magus.

The most decent faculty seems to be Norwich.

Animusphere is really shady, though. Marisbury is honestly the shadiest magus of all. Olgamarie seemed decent, but she had personality issues due to a lifetime of neglect and rejection. She was an unfortunate girl. Aoko's a troublemaker. Wodime is literally trying to destroy the world.

So, after Reines marries Waver, would she allow Gray to be a mistress? They seem to be on good terms. And it makes sense for Lord to have a mistress or two.

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Whatever the Animusphere/Marisbilly want to do is just too terrible for Lev to accept, to the point he thinks that Goetia's plan is much better than their plan. That is the reason why he didn't commit suicide but became Flauros and decided to bomb Chaldea (note that the bombing stuff is not relevant to Goetia, Lev just did it all by himself) without knowing that A-Team were set up to be LB ruler aka Crypter from the beginning and it can't be stopped no matter what.
>Pepe-san: "The Crypters were to begin with a team of loners. Those who lived for their ideals. Those who were persecuted. Those who rebelled. Those who were born different. Those who lost their humanity. There's not a single decent person amongst us. Of course, that would include myself. We were, after all, those who when granted a second chance by the Alien God chose ourselves over the human race."
"Therefore, you shouldn't feel bad that you were the only one amongst the A-Team that survived. From the very start, our course was foreordained. Therefore, you shouldn't feel somehow obligated to us."

>da Vinci (thoughts): 'From the very start ... ? At what stage would you be referring to, Peperoncino?'

Wasn't he adopted by the El-Melloi? So he's legally Reines' brother, isn't he?

Is there problem with Reines marrying her dear brother?

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Imagine Grey standing next to Waver and Reiness marital bed and watching Reiness pegging Waver's gaping asshole every single night.

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I'm pretty sure Waver's gay. Or doesn't get turned on by younger women.

Waver is a slut.

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>I have two personalities
>onii-chan's cutest imouto
>and twisted fucking psychopath

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Why the fuck this shit keeps on happening? it's like they are trying to avoid being arrested? did they forgot where they live?

Will Grey inevitably turn into saber? Or does the transformation only progress when saber is summoned?

No. Without going through all the steps, she'd just be a half-assed Saber clone. Even if they did go through all the steps properly, Saber herself would reject it so she'd still be half-assed.

From what i understand then Gray's forced transformation only progresses when Saber is summoned (so her soul is here). And since the HGW dismantling will happen 10 years after FSN, the transformation will not happen again.

>Even if they did go through all the steps properly, Saber herself would reject it so she'd still be half-assed.
I mean, how could Saber stop them ? Saber going to fight them during the time she is summoned is probably the only way. Logos React recreated her mind already, and Saber cannot stop Gray's forced transformation everytime she gets summoned.

The plan was to use the Holy Grail War to summon Saber into Gray's body. Saber would just go "No, you piece of shit." and leave. If she can't leave then she'd find some way to do so.

It's not really "summon Saber into Gray's body" but their plan is waiting for the moment when Gray's forcefully transformation is completed -> Gray's existence is the same as King Arthur's existence which is nonsense and must be fixed -> everything about Gray (her soul, her existence, memories,...) will be deleted and automatically replaced with King Arthur's soul and mind

She'd still reject it. Point is she'd object to destroying an innocent girl's mind and soul just for some retarded "bring King Arthur back to life" plan and reprimand them fiercely. Worse case scenario she'd completely reject them for their actions. She might even put her own plans on hold and try to use the Holy Grail to restore Gray to her original self.

Then it would turn out that the Holy Grail this time's a sham and won't be able to grant her wish either way. So assuming she doesn't die at some point, she'd leave the villagers after telling them they're all a bunch of faggots and look for a way to set things right some other way. And then she'd continue on with her original Grail quest.

Basically, there's no way for the villagers to get what they want.

That's kind of a reverse Galahad situation huh.

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>tfw be waver
>tfw you are surrounded by qt mages
>there is one particular silver haired qt pining over you
>she wants (you)
>she sucks your dick, but as you climax
>you see iskandar fucking (you)
>tfw you spilled your spaghetti over your students face over the thought of your king fucking (you)
Must be hard being Waver, huh.

Waver is too much of a decent person to touch his students. It gotta be Reiness forcing herself on Waver while dragging along Gray.

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Waver's gonna settle down with a nice, somewhat strict, large-breasted woman who shares his love for Japanese video games.

This is pretty hot.

He isn't. Melvin is indeed a good guy though.

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youtube.com/watch?v=YukKDks9GVg

It is your fate to stay the night

>waver
>straight
There's a Medusa trying to seduce him and failing just to show he's mega gay.

All weeb must die.

It's possible he has an extremely narrow strike zone. Though if he did turn out to be gay, it wouldn't be surprising given Nasu's sense of humor.

>The most popular instructor among female students at the Magus Association turns out to prefer dudes

Someone post the ending of Case Files with Waver and Iskandar reunion.

Nah, he retconned Tokiomi to be the same IIRC. He calls him be elegant-kun.

Well, Lev is good. So you got that right.

You literally posted a good guy though.

I just read the translation of that Iskandar - Waver - Taiga Drama CD and fuck it's fucking cute

He didn't change anything in Realta Nua, which was released after Fate/Zero. Rin's clocks messing up is still the result of Tokiomi playing a prank.

The only time he pays attention to Medusa is when she accidentally says something Iskandar did. So the narrow strike zone is VERY narrow.

Because he's lazy, he retconned it in an interview, and told us we ignore about the "prank." Who knows if it was Tokiomi, it's not as if Rin knew shit about her father anyway, it could have been Kotomine trolling the shit out her.

She is only a freelancer now, she holds no allegiances outside of staying good to the MA.
That means nothing.
Trouble comes to Aoko, or she is asked to deal with it.
She never seeks it.

Well then, I don't really know what other issue Nasu could have about Fate/Zero then. If it's not Tokiomi, nothing else really stands out.

When does this happen again?

I have spoken about this, I think if the Beast of Shame (Beast of the End/Beast VII) manifests, his endgame will be a massive suicide so there won't be a future at all. Mr. Flauros deciding factor was in the future as a key, Goetia would have had a future. I mean, sure, humanity would be humanity in name, but that's the lesser evil.

All Around Type Moon CD drama. Sakura cuntblocks Medusa when Medusa is seething that her seduction attempts fail and is going to mindrape and claim the disinterest older Waver.

He might just be asexual. A lot of magi are like that. They're so focused on their research that they don't give a shit about love or sex. Lev was like that too, before he got taken over by Flauros.

Disregard harlots, obtain Mystery.

Huh? Two of Lev's personalities liked Aoko or Touko (one each) and definitely would have slept with them. We don't know about the third one.

He literally has a hardon when he meets Iskandar for the first time, in the novel. He's gay or at least only into this dude.

The Lev that liked Touko just liked her as a friend. He had no interest in love.

Okay but Broskandar isn't a harlot, now is he?

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He probably slept with plenty of dudes and gals alike.

Why the hell Waver even calls Gray a "Lady"? Dumb japs cannot into english honorifics.

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Delete this post, Iskandar is no whore

Melvin is sick right? I wonder if he and Waver pity fuck each other.

There is a lot of weird shit in the events that Fate route explain about ten years ago that don't really fit with Zero. And there is also the mental gymnastics Kotomine has to do in Zero to justify his claim in FSN about him touching the Grail and blowing everything.

There is also the thing about Shirou seeing the Angra Mainyu "tower" in his fire flashbacks when in Zero that never really happened, it was just mud raining.

>needing your mercury wife to be shaped like a maid
>not worshipping the purity of ｔｈｅｏｒｂ

apply yourselves

why does he have a sassy pose?

Ahh, right, I forgot about that. On top of that, there was that thing about how Kiritsugu only spoke to Saber three times, and all three of those times was to use a Command Spell.

The one who liked Aoko was sexually attracted to her, though. You don't know if Touko one wasn't into her either.

>i can be yuor angle
>or yuor devil

cringe

Melvin is the only worthy for the Waverbowl.

Just like how Holmes calls Sion "Lady Sion".
Waver also uses "Lady" for Reines too.

And with the years new problems showed up like why the fuck Kiritsugu only knew his own way to "save the world" when he was contracted to the Einzberns and they wanted to do the exact same thing as him (just with the Third Magic).

Yeah it makes for a good scene with Kiritsugu and Angra Iri, but it doesn't make sense with the lore we know now about the Einzbern.

Is this just an illusion or something?

Man I hope there'll be Case File II that deal with the Grail's dismantlement, even better if that involve servant battles too, Waver might finally met Iskandar then.

>puke blood on you

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Oh, that part's easy. By the time of the Third Heaven's Feel, the Einzberns didn't give a shit about their original goal anymore. With Acht in charge, all he cared about was finally "winning" for once. They didn't give a shit about anything else.

The Einzberns were already broken by the Third War.

I guess you can argue that, but the UBW Anime Illya flashback makes clear they still look after that and they talk directly about saving the world with Third Magic being their goal.

And there is also how Acht literally shut downs the entire factory (along with himself) if Illya dies because that means that they failed and the world can't be saved.

>that Reines

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I guess Kerry and Acht are idiots that never talked to each other about their goals then.

Or it's another case of Zero being Zero and that's why Nasu decided to go the "sligthly parallel world" route.

poor girl

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>Is this just an illusion or something?
No.

It makes me curious, though. They seem like small changes, but each change builds up. I wonder what kinds of changes they could bring about in the Fifth War. An alternate Fate/stay night.

It's still a very short reunion.

No, Iskandar gets manifested as a divine spirit thanks to the antagonist and reunites with Waver.

True, but it matters it happened.

Where is that meme about the "true sequel to Fate/Zero" with a smoking Shirou with guns?

>And there is also how Acht literally shut downs the entire factory (along with himself) if Illya dies
Good thing for us(and bad for homunculi) that this never happened and it was pure bullshit. Factory still works and after creating perfect albino maids, milf and Imouto it gave us this busty oneesan.

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Demiya backstory.

That's Strange Fake.

And giving how Narita follows everything Nasu says, he will probably justify Fillia saying she is a rogue homunculi that escaped the shut down.

I meant that picture with a Myanimelist edit.

>Gray's RHONGOMYNIIIAAAAAAAADOOOOOOOOO
Gray's seiyuu did a really really really good job. Can't wait to hear this on anime.

Fate/strange fake has nothing to do with Nasu's stories. That's really just one more reason why Fate/strange fake doesn't fit in with the main world line.

No, he was asexual to both.

God, I want to fuck ||Waver|| so much. He's like the ultimate gay bottom.

Maybe is the voice?

>|| ||

Whats going on here?
Sexually frustrated as Waver is away?

>Is that common with type moon works
It's common with F*te works.

>I'm the bone of my sword

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Highly aroused. She's visiting a family that created the most beautiful girl ever. She probably molest Gray right then and there.

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Why isn't the manga translated?

He was correct the first time.

It's being translated very slowly.

Soul degrading is a thing.

Tsukihime doesn't have it.

Lord El-Melloi II Cringe Files

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Gray. Rave. Crave. Deprave.
Grave me.
Grave for you.

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>Wodime is literally trying to destroy the world.
The Alien God did that, Wodime is trying to create a new one in a SMT fashion it now that it's gone. They even point that the goals of the Crypters and the goals of the god are probably not the same.

>cute gravekeeper noises

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So what's the deal with Grey? What's up with her Scythe and shit, why does it talk?

Explained in last? arc.

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Add it's a Logos ReAct Replica, a copy of one of the Atlas Institute super weapons. It serves as a seal to a certain lance.

She's a Saber-clone, but she prefers the male King Arthur instead. His sword can talk, so she copied that. The reason it's a scythe is because she's a gravekeeper, and due to misunderstandings that date all the way back to middle school, she believes that scythes are standard tools for gravekeepers. It's the embodiment of her strong work ethic. Isn't she a good girl?

The second to last actually. The last one is the one with the Lords reunion, Heartless plot and Albion.

Why the fuck do they have something like that anyway, do they ever explain it? The Atlas institute is notorious for not letting any of their shit leak out.

>So what's the deal with Grey?
She's a literal Saber Clone.

>What's up with her Scythe and shit, why does it talk?
It's literally Rhongmyiad (I refuse to bother finding the correct spelling of this), the Lance of King Arthur. The ego/spirit inhabiting it may or may not be Sir Kay, one of the Knights of the Round Table.

>grey
get in the grave

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She is a girl that lived all her life in the Blackmore cemetery (Blackmore like the DAA yeah, it's intentional) and was magically groomed to become the new body for King Arthur in a thousand year plan gone wrong.

They had a Contract of Atlas. Same as Marisbury in FGO. That's also the reason why Zepia is there in the arc.

>They even point that the goals of the Crypters and the goals of the god are probably not the same.
>probably
The Crypters's goal being different from the God's goal is already confirmed tho ? The God only cares about the Fantasy Tree while the Crypters want to create a new history. Also Koyanskaya wants to be the new Nine-Tailed + create a new legend for herself and Douman is into torturing humans & monster collection.

I thought that might be it, but I was hoping it wouldn't be. Why do those contracts exist, anyway? They clearly don't like that they're scattered throughout the world.

>anime is well paced and directed, looks nice, sounds nice
>waver is cool, all the new characters designs are good
>suddenly shitty saberclone is revealed
>pulls out a cgi scythe out of her ass and starts spouting shitty engrish before hiding behind her hood in typical moeshit fashion
Do they have no faith in their fucking characters. Why do they always have to rely on fucking saberclones all the time, at this point it just feels like they're trying to insult peoples intelligence.

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>Why do those contracts exist, anyway? They clearly don't like that they're scattered throughout the world.
It was explained in Camelot (the part with Holmes in Atlas) though.

Gray it's probably the most justified Saberclone along with Mordred. Also it's not even played as something good, so you can take it as a jab to Saberfaces. Here it's kind of a tragedy with the terror or losing the sense of self.

>fatefags

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Saberfacing is never justified.
Best you can do is downplay it.

Is this fateshit better than that cooking fateshit?

Well, playing it as a curse it's kind of baffling too.

Even Holmes doesn't know the true reason for why the contracts exist. The actual reason doesn't seem to exist on any official record.

Still, to think one of the contracts would be wasted for something like that.

I really really hope that Zepia could get a small cameo in the original content part

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Without the power of TATARI, he's not very interesting.

I expect the reason to be something lore related to be tackled in another work.

I don't think he has any business being there.

He is pretty much the same, just less crazy evil. He even does the cut cut theatre talk.

Don't worry, it's all within my calculations.

Crazy made him fun. He was one of the original memes of TYPE-MOON. Plus his power was interesting.

Normal vampires just don't cut it for me anymore.

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I don't really like Fate Sion as much as Melty Sion either.

I mean, he still acts like Zepia. He is just more collected in Fate because he never went batshit insane. And I'm someone who loves him as a villain in Melty.

The problem with Melty Zepia is that sometimes he was too crazy, so he only had meaningful conversations at very specific points. Like at the end in the True Ending of VN mode.

As someone who isn't too deep into the franchise I think Mordred is okay because she is different enough not to be a constant reminder that Saber is popular and therefore should be in every fate related product. Its just as this user said , saberfacing just makes it too obvious and grating. And it being it done repeatedly almost undermines Sabers character for me despite me liking it in the other animes, even if they have good backstories it just comes off as unecessary wanking.
Anyways I'm only bitching about that in particular, the anime is great otherwise.

It's all about cookie-cutter designs of bespectacled twin-tails nowadays.
Blame zoomers for that.

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Well, he is the Director of Atlas so he is not really a normal vampire either. In Fate he is still one of the big honchos of the magical world.

It's also interesting to see him mentioning his Tsukihime's self. He calculated the possibility of such a thing and knows about that too.

in the thumbnail, it look like she is doing that stupid fellatio face.

There might be an important lore reason for making her tgat way later on. Otherwise, wasting a contract just to make one of the main characters a Saberface would be inexcusable.

I recommend rewatching episode 00. Lots of small interesting details there.

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The problem a lot of people have with Gray is just the principle. Why does a spinoff about Waver investigating magic mysteries have to involve King Arthur, Rhongomyniad and the Knights of the Round Table? It feels excessive.

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Because they are part of the magical lore of England. I would agree if it was I don't know, lore about Nero.

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nuSion hasn't had a lot of screentime since her first appearance but personally i think she is slowly growing on me. A genius with positive mind, stable mentality, has always wanted to have friends (eventhough she didn't have any friend in Atlas) and understand what a human wants despite growing in a place with full of autists. Still, she still has some weird behaviours like other Atlas alchemists and can get serious sometimes which even makes Mashu kinda surprised. I also like her relationship with Zepia (the part where she talked about him in LB3 intro and the Logos React Generic from Zepia in GudaGuda are cute) and with Captain as well: they truly believe in each other eventhough there are some not-so-good hints about Sion already. Her being the last remaining person of Atlas somehow sounds very lonely, especially when GudaGuda event shows how much Sion wants to protect the relic of Atlas (which is also the birthday gift from her father) even if it's full of buggy and has become dangerous now.

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Please. If some stupid village didn't conveniently have an Atlas contract and conveniently know that Atlas just happened to have exactly what they needed to achieve their retarded plan, this wouldn't even be a thing.

The point is that all of that was Morgan's doing. It's not just a random village. It's also the village where Blackmore is buried. It ties with the whole crows are related with Arthur thing too.

It's just annoying. Apparently, TYPE-MOON can no longer produce stories that don't involve Heroic Spirits or King Arthur im some way.

Fate is about that. Heroic Spirits are the basis of the setting the same as vampires are the basis of Tsukihime. Lord El-Melloi II it's a Fate spin-off so it's a given.

>Faculty of Law
So why is it translated as Policies Department?

It could have been its own thing. No one said that every story needs to be about vampires, Servants or King Arthur. Kara no Kyoukai had none of those things.

Because it's that kind of kanji that can be translated in various ways.

Yeah but Kara no Kyoukai is not Fate or Tsukihime. Waver it's a Fate character though.

KnK could be both Fate and Tsukihime.

But policies just sounds so much more incorrect.

And you're satisfied with that? One of the reasons people were attracted to Case Files was because it seemed like it wouldn't be related to Heroic Spirits.Turns out it's still Heroic Spirits.

Nah. KnK doesn't take place in the Tsukihime world line.

Is there anything that explicitly forbids it from being in Tsukihime's world?
If there's no Heroic Spirits then it's all good as far as I see it.

>Reine will forever remain a loli no matter how old she actually is

Literally "i wish that were me".

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Why?

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Nasu directly said it's not. There can't be two MEODP users at the same time and Touko's whole research doesn't make sense with Arc being a thing.

If anything Kara no Kyoukai it's closer to Fate.

>not wanting to be an eternal loli

You are kind of overreacting. Heroic Spirits are a part of it but ultimately it's more about magecraft and see what this Tsukihime thing is in Fate.

I mean why is she an eternal loli?

I'd rather be a cute shota anyway.

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>Nasu directly said
Fuck Nasu and fuck Fate

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You know what was its own thing? Mahoyo.

But it just did "alright" because it wasn't Fate and the Golden Age of VNs was over.

No True Ancestors.

her growth got stunted due to the faulty crest being implanted at a young age or something

Nasu made that clear before FSN was even a thing. Even in the Tsukihime Plus Disc they directly tell you that.

KnK and Tsukihime were never meant to be the same world.

Based. Will Grey stay perma-flat too? Or will she turned into a tity monster like adult Saber?

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Touko's goal of reaching the Root by achieving the original template of the human body wouldn't be a thing if True Ancestors exist, because True Ancestors were created using that original template. KnK's Touko can't exist in a world where Arcueid exists. The Touko of Tsukihime would have followed a different path from the Touko of KnK.

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This is probably the only thing that kind of makes sense.
But then, the glasses Aoko stole from Touko were made for Ryougi...

It was confirmed back in December 2001
>Kinoko:
>I'll answer that!
>Regarding the Fujou, the setting isn't quite the same.
>Though Rakkyo and Tsukihime have a lot of points in common, there are a few tiny differences in the details.
>One of those is the Fujou. In reality they're actually ESP users like the Asagami, Ryougi, and Nanaya. But in Rakkyo they are a magi lineage.
>Other than that... oh, right, there's Aoko's age. If Rakkyo and Tsukihime were the same world then Aoko would only be a little bit older than Tohno Shiki. The Aoko in Rakkyo has not yet gained the title of "Miss Blue", and is still training in Misaki Town.
>It's probably best to think of it as subtly shifted parallel worlds.

So, Yea Forums, which faculty would you pick? For me it's gotta be Archeology. Especially if they hand out those top hats for free.

Man when the fuck will this doujin come out?

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None.

>joining clock tower scrub

her body is supposed to be the same as adult saber now i believe.

More importantly, though, the absence of True Ancestors means that Rakkyo isn't even in the same collection of timelines as Tsukihime. That means it's either part of the Fate collective, or it's its own thing.

Sbe seems to invemt the Mystic Eye Killers in any timeline.

i dont see why it cant happen, TAs were based off the original humans, touko wants to reach the root by becoming like the original humans, they are two different things.

>adult
Saber is eternally 14.

This adult Saber?

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True Ancestors and Gilgamesh don't have an innate connection to the Root despite being created from that template. So that already proves that you can't reach the Root just by having the original template of the human body.

I guess because she would just need to get her hands in one.

those are fake sabers

You have a series of Fate franchise staged on England,the land of King Arthur,starring one of the former master of an HGW.
Are you sure this is the right time to leave the arthurian lore out?

Who else watching Cop Craft here? There's surprisingly quite a fair bit of overlap in concept in it too.

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well thats because they arent mages. just being an original human doesnt mean you get access to the root, imagine ancient era with tons of void shikis running around.

The Lion King is the realest though.

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Jesus christ get in the car

she might actually have been the daughter of an actual aristocrat{possiblyfrom an impoverished line] like an Earl (Case in point Earl Spencer and daughter Lady Diana) or something prior to winding up in the graveyard.

Lion King is when the spirit of Rhongomyniad takes over Saber's mind though.

Actually, is that ever addressed in case files? Like how Rhongomyniad has its own spirit?

This. I always assumed Grey would end up being Lancer Artoria copy instead of the Saber version due to the rhongobongo influence.

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It was brought up in vol 10 that just like how Saber becomes Lion King, the same fate will happen to Gray if Add doesn't seal the Rhongo. Gray's line for Artoria Lancer in FGO also mentions this too.

5th war with waver + gray summoning iskander
shinji gets true assassin instead

How does it go?

I want Reines to hang me upside down

You already posted that shit before.

That's because of Avalon though. It's unclear whether it would happen to Gray, especially since Saber won't get summoned after the 5th HGW in that timeline anymore.

Isn't Fate about the fakes surpassing the originals or something, because thats what I'm seeing.

>Waver is fucking useless as usual, Gray is probably the master of Iskandar because she'll have a dragon core by that point
>Iskandar can spam Ionioi Hetairoi and Via Expugnatio as much as he wants because lmao dragon core
>gets bodied by Arturia because Excalibur can kill most of his army in a sweep and that will break the RM
>gets bodied by Gilgamesh, obviously
>has a chance against Medea since she doesn't have Assassin guarding the temple anymore
>gets bodied by Herc unless Rhongobongo can oneshot him, which I suppose is possible
>stalemate against Cu who has feats of beating armies by himself and has some of the greatest survival skills of any heroic spirit
>inconclusive Archer Emiya because Iskandar's Master has far superior mana reserves and UBW can't really hit Via Expugnatio yet Emiya can use shit like Hrunting as a projectile
>Hassan doesn't really stand a chance without being able to exploit the Shadow as a stage hazard
It would probably end up with Artoria/Shirou + Emiya/Rin + Gray/Waver/Iskandar vs Gil/Kirei at that point, as Waver will quickly realize how fucked up the ritual is and has already achieved his goal of meeting Iskandar again so he doesn't give a shit about the "wish". Gray is essentially Servant-tier after hanging out in the same town as Artoria for a week or two.

How about:
5th war with Gray summoning Saber

They win

>Fate / Whoever Summons Saber Wins

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Gray has sex with Saber for mana transfer

>Marisbilly and Solomon
>Longinus and Chitose
>Astolfo and Sieg

why does this look so low budget? what does type moon do with all of the money they make from fgo beside horde it.

Because it's mobage advertisement.

How to steal Waver look IRL?

Be born a whiny bitchboi, meet a boisterous muscleman that you want to call "daddy" and a FLAT tiger, have said muscleman play vidya with you then subsequently die for you.

Looks fine though

Mark my words. Strange Fake will be a berserker win.

I agree, the whole time I was watching the second episode, I keep thinking if Ufotable was doing it we could get an awesome thrilling murder mystery. What we got is a boring lame show instead.

At least Grey is cute.

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Edison (Humbaba) or Jack? Because I'm pretty sure Jack is supposed to be dead but Narita can't bring himself to kill him.

How exaclty does it look chap to you?

Yes.

Bold of you to assume that we'll ever reach the ending

Before I watch this, is the new saberface boring like the original saber or cool like red saber? Or perhaps in a middle ground?

She isn't formally part of one, that's just her initial studies before she got Blue. Now that she has it, she's outside the system.

>At least Grey is cute.
And thats whats important!

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Jack, it will be the biggest upset when the nerfed berserker takes it all. Plus now he's based and El Melloi-pilled, so Flatt will make sure to bring him back to the Clock Tower UBW Good style.

Narita's heart ca be broken only so many times by Nasu.

>red saber
>cool

Jack ain't dead, Dumas is cooking up something truly Strange™, almost like a Fake™ servant. He'll combine Flat with his crazy 6th magic / root / whatever powers and Jack into Flat the Ripper

JackXDumas is objectively the best faction in that war, nd that's not even considering making friends with the equally great church overseer.

I'm still more partial to Enkidu/Richard, if only Enkidu would actually do something. But Enkidu definitely isn't going to win.

He wanted to die because Enkidu died.

Yeah, but Aoko is more sexually attractive than dirty chain smoking refs.

Badass.

youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0

It doesn't look cheap at all. There is actually a lot of movement and character acting here, unlike ufotable who is all inexpresive shovel faces. If anything what you don't like is the character design.

Old Aoko looks and acts like a man.

That's because Takeuchi sucks at drawing more mature women. Just give her to Koyama.

Well technically Gilgamesh did become a mage during the Babylonia singularity, but I guess he isn't the kind of guy to care or have time to care about the root at all. This actually brings up some interesting questions because it seems that only modern mages are so obsessed with reaching the root. I'm pretty sure no caster class servant has ever cared about or even mentioned the Root at all actually.

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meant to reply to

He doesn't really use magecraft at all, but launches prepared spells with mystic codes. I guess he did perform the summoning ritual, but you only need to have circuits to do that.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Rave for me
and Grave for (You)

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He did it only to protect Babylonia, he's more of a [Magic User] than a Mage desu

How does Waver even end up heir to Lord el Meloi? Does he get to plow that loli?

Watch the anime.

It was explained right in ep 1, user

There needs to be more fanart of Gray without hoodie.

Did you watch the first episode?

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I only watch fate material if it has guaranteed high impact loli fucking

She's one of the most boring saber clones that they released recently.

Waver is gay.

You wouldn't say that if you actually knew how many of them are actual characters to begin with.

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fgo isn't fate

FGO isn't canon

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When is Luvia gonna make her appearance?

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They skip vol 1, but they can put her in the original content part

No, I would say it. Gray is one of the most needless characters they created. They are shamefully made another clone to boost popularity for their spinoff, there was already enough cast for good story but they still created a new clone just to make sure that at least somebody would buy it for a new seiba.
Things slightly different for mobage because this genre is basically a cashgrab lottery for characters you already knew or just cool looking characters in general. You expcet to see something like that there and you want to see a new side of you favourite characters and etc.

wait she is for (me)?

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>literally a main Fate series
>lies near the center of the Primary Branch/Trunk

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Not that user but wasn't Case Files released before FGO ? Vol 1 got released in 2014 if i remember correctly.

After gay first episode and lesbians in second no surprise if she'll be a tranny just like in FGO.

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LIES
REEEEEEEE

Fate haters btfo

>that fucking manface

She offered to start a branch family with him.

He said no.

Of course they'll never give up a million-making franchise.

I know but that's not make any difference. She isn't the first saber clone that they created even long before FGO, but that's doesn't matter because FGO was created to milk the shit out of all characters that they have.

Also yaoi hands.

so this isn’t a complete adaptation of the light novel right?

Remember this interview in 2012 ?
>Nasu: 5 years ago we said that "this will not go beyond one product," but even saying TYPE-MOON now is just another word for 『Gundam』. It just keeps changing forms and moving forward. That’s not to say we’re just artificially extending it, of course. 『Fate/EXTRA』 was a good test for us. It was fun to write, and fun to make. If the players also enjoys it then it’s a Win-Win, is it not?

>Takeuchi: As a product I do feel like it has grown much more than I expected. Whenever we said that 『Fate』 was over and done with, it would refuse to die. I suppose it’s only natural to love and revere something that you have spent so much time cultivating and being so fulfilled by, and to become so attached to it. I don’t mean to be obsessive, but I do want to treat this with utmost care, as we have done up until this point.

>Nasu: This is for us what 『Final Fantasy』 is for Square Enix. On a way smaller scale, of course!

Takeuchi: I know you may sometimes think "Not another 『Fate』!" but even "another" 『Fate』 game wouldn’t be 『Fate』 at all.

>Nasu: We plan to our utmost into every 『Fate』 so that the players who have stuck it out with us so far love it just the same. If we can just do that the fans will still be with us even as they say "Ah, its 『Fate』 again."

>Takeuchi: 『Fate』 is really interesting isn’t it? We have the room to think about new possibilities. We will not make a direct sequel, but we’ll go for anything that seems interesting.

>Nasu: The 『Fate』 I want to make now is that one, 『Fate Musou』. (laughs)

Another reason FGO isn't fate
Nasu needing to fuel his drug addiction doesn't mean it's part of the franchise

>We plan to our utmost into every 『Fate』
the fucking AUDACITY
also itoddlers BTFO

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oh god

Why

>You say that user but when you look at the actually most popular characters and the most rolled banners it's more general waifubait than nostalgia. Case in point, base Artoria, Parvati, Jaguar Man, and Astrea aren't popular at at all because despite the supposed "character milking". There's only like 10 or so pseudo-servants out of the 200 or so in the game.

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>Fate Fate Fate muh Fate

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>Rin's clocks messing up is still the result of Tokiomi playing a prank
I thought it was implied daylight savings?

Iskandar would make waver fuck gray and he would fuck both of them later.

she's for waver but waver isn't for her, so treat her decently and she'd probably be into you

>That part in the /zero event of GO where Iskandar says he hates old Waver.
>Old waver nearly has a breakdown.

this season is adapting 4th and 5th novel

Shut the fuck up Nasu and told Ufotable to anime the fucking Fate route already.

Zero event in GO really make people hate DUDE.

what did adult waver do wrong?

Was it hate?
I felt like DUDE just tried to ruin old Waver plans to control all things and just bring some chaos.

FGO it still a mobage, they are worked that way. I can also say that there was a lot of new characters that linked to old ones that became very popular, or new clones that became popular and so on. They even still have a characters that would generate a big hype if they'll release it right now. And Luvia and Taiga aren't very popular on their own to begin with. Also in this 200 there is a lot of trash that no one care about. There is a much more details but the main point is that FGO became popular because it's Fate waifu game, not a good waifu game. Fate fans attracted by old faces, would stay for a new ones, franchise grows bigger and at that point that old characters became needless.

Talk shit about his young whiny self.

didn't iskandar also do the same thing back then?

The part where he puts on his coat and it reflects Iskandar is fucking kino.

It's not the same, he's still on Waver's side. He could say harsh things to his master, but for example when Kayneth tryed to mock him Iskander interrupted him with his speach about how Kayneth is awful mage anyway and don't deserve him to be his servant. Basically similar thing happened with Waver and El-Melloi II in FGO event, but it was a story about that how adult Waver actually outgrowed Iskander. He isn't his subject anymore, he can be considered even as worthy rival.

greibu 4 u

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does flatt have any more roles in the part of case files that’s being adapted? I liked him from what I have read in fate strange/fake

She looked cooler with a tracksuit.

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big scythe 4 a big greibu 4 a big guy 4 u

He and Svin were involved in the second one they skipped, but they'll almost certainly appear in the anime original stuff at least.

Why is Svein ranked so high anyway? He's pretty much a dumb mutt.

Does Waver ever do anything by himself in Case Files? Like fighting or, you know, magecraft stuff.

He doesn't need to do that.
He has people to do the dirty work.
He only does the thinking.

No wonder DUDE is dissapointed in him.

He isn't powerful mage, but he is good teacher.

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All the main characters change outfits every arc.

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Because Svin is actually quite strong in a fight and his magecraft is really rare,

So he's just the same weakling he was during the HGW basically.

He can basically turn into a Cleric Beast.

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Damn Reiness is raiding some boy other than Waver.

Reiness looked ugly here.

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>grb 4u
who approved of this

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>Another saberface

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And some Macedonian dick too

You just chose tge examples that helped your argument. Artoria has been in the game since the start and got a shit ton of rate ups so of course people won't roll for her. All her limited versions have been successes. Parvati has shit art and no character, meanwhile Kama and BB were a success. Ishtar and Eresh were also a success and no one really cares about Luvia and Taiga.

how do japs even say macedonia again?

マケドニア

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how do they pronounce it

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"Makedonia"

I'm cautiously optimistic about nips pronouncing stuff correctly, are you sure thats how they say it

I was never a fan of Iskandar that much either

>are you sure thats how they say it
It should yes, things in nips are basically pronounced the way it's written.

You're clearly not getting it dawg. Artoria's limited servants have actually appeared in chapters, and are all good servants. Kama was successful because she is stupid sexy lolibait and the best assasin in the game. Summer BB was only successful because she's fucking lewd, you'd know if you look at her porn/fanart ratio. The argument that fgo is milking old popular characters is retarded if you look at how the original fsn cast all play bit roles and joke characters compared to the new waifubait that DW is always shilling out.

Care to explain DUDE to me?

Summer B.B. was also the only good offensive Mooncancer.

Welfare BB is better than her tho

Can't make up for utter lack of talent. Even if he understands the structure of spells, he's hopelessly inferior when it comes to circuit count and quality. In a way, he's worse off than Shirou, who at least has one thing that he can do better than anyone else.

That said, he does have talent as a teacher, problem-solver and organizer. Just none as a magus. If he hadn't insisted on becoming a magus, he probably would have made it big in normal human society. He'd almost definitely have more success as a physicist, a detective or a bigshot in a major company.

Shirou has 27 circuits, that's actually average, they're just poor quality because they're only good for one thing (Swords).

Aoko only has 20, which is deemed below average, but they're very high quality (although also "simple") to make up for it because Aozaki genes.

Rin is an outlier powerhouse with the 40 circuits and each one with a sub-circuit of 30 more.

Waver is very low in circuit count and circuit quality, Kayneth was about 500x stronger than he was. Even as El-Melloi II, Waver is still described as "only average" so at best he might be around Shirou's level.

He was shit, but he worked hard to get to where he is today. Unfortunately, all that effort only churned out a mediocre magus. Shirou may eventually reach that point too, but the difference between Shirou and Waver is that Shirou can do something no one else can.

In the world of magi, two types of magi are the most valued: Those who can do anything exceptionally well, and those who can do one thing better than anyone else. Unfortunately, if you're in the latter category and your ability is too unique to be passed down to subsequent generations, it'll earn you a Sealing Designation. Anyone discovered to possess a Reality Marble will automatically receive a Sealing Designation because those can't really be passed down.

Yes. I'm reasonably sure you could store a reality marble or whatever in a Crest, but you couldn't actually activate it from there, so it'd just be some random super-magecraft stashed away. Similarly to how Shirou is able to pull stuff out of Archer's Arm, but the UBW is incompatible with his own ideals, so he can't actually deploy the RM.

The Edelfelts are noted in some of the Case Files to do this: they're the hyenas of the magical community, and do their best to snatch up all the research and crests they can find to incorporate into their own crests. It doesn't mean they can use it, but they just want to have it.

You can't. Reality Marbles are your inner world. The reason Emiya's armgraft worked was because Shirou and Heroic Spirit Emiya are the same person. Their Reality Marbles are fundamentally similar (though due to differences in life experience, not exactly the same). They're the exception to this rule. Medea was able to turn Shirou into a Mystic Code make some use out of his ability in one of the Dead Ends, but she can't operate his Reality Marble. Any attempts to replicate or use another's Reality Marble will either fail or result in a slightly different but ultimately inferior ability.

It's possible to some extent to pass on a similar ability, but it won't be exactly the same. White Len and Dust of Osiris have their own versions of TATARI, but you can't describe them as exactly the same Reality Marble, due to differences in scale, activation condition and overall effect. Zepia's TATARI enhances rumors, urban myths and fears, and for one night the strongest fears are materialized. Dust of Osiris' version can only recreate the conditions of the original Night of Walachia that took place in the first Melty Blood. White Len can produce a Bounded Field that can kinda replicate the effects of TATARI, but it's weaker and not quite the same.

>Medea was able to turn Shirou into a Mystic Code make some use out of his ability in one of the Dead Ends, but she can't operate his Reality Marble
That's what led me to believe that you could store it, actually. If Medea (granted she's Age of Gods, so the rules might be different for her anyway) can in a very limited fashion access and employ some aspects of a RM outside/without Shirou, then if Shirou's circuits and crest is put into a descendant, it may be able to store an RM - but NOT actually use it. Anything you did use would probably come out as a Bounded Field with only base similarities, if it came out at all.

You're not storing it. You're turning the original body into a Mystic Code. You can't transfer the ability onto another body. The Reality Marble is still inside Shirou. You're only changing the form that Shirou's body takes, that's all.

I mean, by that logic, Shirou in his doll body in the HF ending can never use or develop his RM because the ability couldn't be moved to another body, and I'm uncomfortable with that line of reasoning.

I mean DA's still have to deal with degradation that's the reason they have to eat so many humans because that helps for reasons.
Only one it doesn't help is Nrvnqsr because his entire deal is ridicilous.

He can. The doll body near-perfectly replicates the original body to the point even the world is fooled. As long as Shirou is still Shirou, he'll be able to make use of his Reality Marble, even if it takes a slightly different form compared to other Shirous.

The thing about what Medea did is effectively the same as a Sealing Designation. You're essentially forcing a body into a form of stasis. It's not quite the same, since Sealing Designations are about preserving the body in a living state as is without allowing it to decay or change, but the concept is similar. Medea is basically forcing Shirou to exist in an unnatural state in order to make use of his unique power.

To put it another way, only Emiya Shirou can use Unlimited Blade Works. No matter what kind of form he's transformed into, this will always be true. You can't remove Unlimited Blade Works from Shirou and you can't transplant it into a foreign body. If you, as a magus, wish to utilize that power, you'll have to turn Shirou himself into a tool for you to use. If Shirou dies, Unlimited Blade Works is lost forever. Thus the goal would be to preserve him in a living state for an indefinite period of time, modifying him in order to make him easier to use as a tool. That's what Medea did.

Degradation of the body can be halted but degradation of the soul is inevitable.

>doll body near-perfectly replicates the original body
No, that one doesn't, it's flawed and Sakura needs to do twice-daily mana transfers because of the downside. That's party of why they're looking for Touko to get a better one. If they did get one of Touko's actually good ones and not the cheap shitty knockoffs they could probably "cheat the system" like you're saying however.

>a 12-13 year old
>hag
Don't insult my smug loli like that.

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If two magus have sex, who will be transferring mana to who?

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The reason they keep doing "mana transfers" is because Sakura's still a Lesser Grail and is constantly being supplied with infinite amounts of magical energy. She always has a full tank. It's uncomfortable so she needs an outlet, so she pumps it into Shirou. It helps Shirou readjust to his body a little faster due to the body's inferior mana flow, but Rin states that he'[d eventually be fine even without her help.

The doll was created by Touko. It's not a knockoff. It's just a bit old, but as Rin says, the soul will overwrite the body so he'll be back to normal eventually. He can't perform spells properly yet, but that should change in a few years.

>Sakura's still a Lesser Grail and is constantly being supplied with infinite amounts of magical energy
Won't that stop of the Greater Grail gets dismantled?

Her link to the Root can't be severed. Even once the Holy Grail system's dismantled, she'll still continue to receive a constant supply of mana.

Oh, it was from the Root, gotcha. I remembered it being from the Fuyuki leylines via the greater grail. It's been probably a decade since I read the VN.

Connections to the Root are everywhere these days.

Degradation of Body and degradation of soul are inherently linked.
See Zouken's body continously rotting

That depends. A lot of Dead Apostles manage to retain a youthful looking body, but they're probably nothing like how they were like in their actual youth. There's also Bedivere, who was able to gain an unaging body due to Excalibur being grafted to his arm, but it didn't do anything for his soul which, by the end of the Camelot singularity, was withering away.

I genuinely miss when connections to the Root were supposedly rare and mystical. It demeans it if everybody and their mother has one.

>Joining Clock Tower
>When joining Atlas lets you chill with DAs and lets perverts pursue all they want in their magecraft

If I pick Celestial Bodies, do I get to study Aoko's body? Asking for a friend.

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Well, they were pretty common even around the release of Tsukihime. We already had at least seven back then. Manaka, the three surviving Magicians, Kurogiri, Ryougi Shiki, Tohno Shiki. Then we got Sakura and Ilya by the end of the Heaven's Feel route. Arcueid is also implied to have a connection to it.

I counted Magicians as one group (Zeltrech, "Fourth" and Aoko). But if you can count it on more than the fingers of one hand, I think it's too many.

Well, you have to remember that they're all spread out in different timelines. Thinking about it that way, it's not that bad. Tohno Shiki, Ryougi Shiki and Sajyou Manaka all exist in different timelines.

I'd join the faculty of Lore, just so I can plan amazing HGW strategies with Daybit.

I guess that means UBW Good End is bad news for her

Are they dykes?

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Only if you're in pic related.

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Best TM loli

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I'm really enjoying the fact the OP is instrumental. It tickles just the right buttons for me.

How many people students included are in the clock tower and how do they even managed to keep all that a secret? it's location is not exactly secluded, right in the middle of bong city.

Don't bother. Eventually, she ends up dying her hair and becomes a shady delinquent who goes around threatening to kick eight-year-old boys' heads off.

wat?

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>fgo protagonist saves the world
>cause rank
I don't see Bazett or lord gay melloi saving the world

>The only person to "win" the third HGW in all timelines did so with a Lancer.
>Fate/Zero, Gil had won the war but Kerry nuked the grail.
>F/SN, Saber doesn't win in HF.
>Fate/Extra, 1/3rd of the time. With CCC, 1/4.
>Fate/Apoc, Sieg w/Astolfo.
>Fate/GO, Mr. Animusphere with Solomon.
>Manaka didn't technically win in Fragments.

Ranks are aptitude as a magus. Gudako's still a novice who requires Code Casts to cast spells.

magic
but waver realizes that in the era of smartphones and the internet most mystery will soon be gone

ritsuka is a shit tier mage who needs mystic codes to do even the most basic shit
also chaldea intentionally messed with the records to make da vinci and romani look responsible for the work so ritsuka wouldn't get sealing designated

Engrave in me vs
A grave for me

I am the bone of my sword

Is Requiem any good?

And is it translated?

I'll engrave in you a grave for you.

Gray is best girl of the season, which means Saber is once again the best girl of the season.

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IIRC it wasn’t in the LN either, but rather from one of the audio dramas

Reines and Svin were going to help Gray and Waver in that part though.

Bazett and Waver (despite having a bad raw ability like Magic Circuits,...) are still far better than Fujimaru who can't even cast a simple spell without using Mystic Code. Bazett got Fes rank due to her being an Enforcer (and don't forget she is looked down by MA), Waver is because of his contribution to the world of magecraft and Fujimaru is for saving the world with the help of many servants and Chaldea staffs.

Why is the Koreanfag spamming Fate threads?

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They probably couldn't save the world, though.

Literally anyone could in Fujimaru's circumstance.
Merlin as a mana battery and an army of (weakened) servants to throw at the problem.

Servants are fickle. They wouldn't side with just anyone, even with the fate of the world at stake. They'd especially have a hard time in the Lostbelts.

Fate has turned into such garbage

And that's not relevant to how the MA ranking system works though ? Usually there are two ways: getting a rank for your true ability in magecraft (like Svin, Touko,...) or getting a rank for your contribution to MA/Clock Tower/this world but even if you get a rank through this way, the MA still see your raw ability as a factor which results in the rank of Bazett, Waver and Fujimaru. Not to mention what Romani and Da Vinci did.

Yeah, but ranks don't mean shit in the real world. It's just something to make self-important people feel better about themselves. Why should I care about a murderer and a loser? Neither of them saved the world.

To be fair Waver doesn't even care about his rank lol. Obviously ranks are just ranks and if you don't care, why did you ask it ?

Neither did Ritsuka.
Countless servants did.

FGO MC is a fucking vending machine used to summon Servants.

I didn't.

Grave for you

Of course saving the world > being an Enforcer or being a great professor but it doesn't change the fact that Bazett and Waver have far better magecraft abilities than Guda. Bazett only got Fes because she is looked down by the MA, her true rank must be even higher than that.

everything FGO related reads like bad fanfiction anyway.

>grail wars are rare and summoning servants are nigh impossible outside of them due to how much mana they require
>actually theres another organisation that can summon an army of servants outside of grail wars and nobody has an issue with it

Relationship between the Servant and Master is vital. This is affirmed over and over again. Many Servants only contracted with the protagonist out of respect for their character.

Isn't FGO supposed to be in the far future compared to all the grail wars that happened before?

>2015
>far future

But you sound like you're quite angry or something...
Anyway i will say this again, the MA ranking system mostly focuses on the magecraft ability only, so don't be surprised if they gave Guda - a magus (Guda is more like a spellcaster, no?) who can't even cast a simple spell without Mystic Code - rank Fes.

Ah yes.
The vast character that is Ritsuka.

Grand Order started in 2015, now is 2019

>compared to all the grail wars that happened before?

FGO MC has no character. He is practically a blank slate that is completely inoffensive to every Servant, so that they can serve the purpose of "saving the world".

Nigga the 5th FHGW is always in 2004.

Fair enough. But if Waver were in that position, he would have at least died by the end of Shinjuku, if not earlier.

Nigger it's 10 fucking years. It's not Extra levels of future

No there was only one grail war in the FGO time and it was during 2004. Billy won with Solomon who killed everyone in that war wished for a ton of money and to be human.

A lot of problems could have been resolved if God told Solomon to kill Marisbilly.

>God told Solomon to throw his Ring into the future
>Marisbilly used that Ring as a catalyst to summon Solomon in the HGW
>Marisbilly & Solomon won the HGW -> Chaldeas being activated -> completed Chaldea
>Solomon saw the Incineration of Humanity after their winning
>Lev only became Flauros and started FGO timeline where Marisbilly won the HGW because in his opinion, whatever the Animusphere want to do is even more terrible than Goetia's plan
>Goetia got BTFO'd because Romani had one of the Ring
>Marisbilly wants to reach the Root by the Animusphere's own way
>the Animusphere want to reach the Root through Chaldeas according to Rasputin
>Rayshift can only be considered as the biggest threat to the God of the Foreign Star if it still has Chaldeas
>the location where Chaldeas was created gets redacted in Lostroom booklet

he likes large muscles in tiny t shirts

Grey's got a big scythe.

Can Shirou beat Gray?

UBW Shirou probably can.

Rin would have to develop an entire crest for that, given she lost hers to be able to power up Shirou enough to use projection at that level.

why? their "connection" after unilimited blade works is not permanent?