What the fuck did I just watch?
A gay incest anime.
Tekunoraizu
He was too pure for this cruel world
fuck if I know, that show is so boring even the first episode filtered me
Atleast you admit you got filtered
It doesn't get good until the last few episodes
Wrong
A masterpiece.
FILTERED!
It gets good after episode 4. Then you watch it again and find out that the first four episodes were good too.
The first episodes are amazing though. The weakest part is in the middle between Yoshii's death and the Shapes appearing.
I still found every scene with yoshii to be great and took a liking to him from the start
I’ll be your GUARDIAN ANGEL
Unironically a really fucking good ass show
I prefer this vocal track
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>Can anybody help me change
>The things that I see
;_;
You watched a show that hasnt been trampled by normalfags and waifufags like lain and nge
I felt the same.
I had to force myself watching for the first few episodes.
It need a lot time to pay off but it does.
But only in desperation...
What was the point of this character? So what if she was the seer. She did nothing the entire show.
And probably never will be. More anime should have extreme pleb filter first episodes to phase out the weak
But something like Tex will probably never be made again anyway
I'm not great at articulating my thoughts but Ran was a messiah figure for a broken society that hinged too much on prophecy and inaction, which ultimately led to its collapse. Perhaps a criticism of extremist religious worship and teachings, I don't know. Someone smarter than I am can offer a more concise explanation, there's always some well-read anons lurking Tex threads
Thanks for the reply user, I somewhat think people were obsessed over the seers because they were desperate to figure out the next phase of human evolution. Also to find relief in the fact that their lives weren't completely meaningless, but by the end I have no idea what she actually was.
Post the name at least.
>in the image
>literally 1sec Google image search
Fuck off
Don't use Google products.
It's still in the image, you're just a lazy cunt with no excuse
I don't believe that she did "nothing," but Ran is one of the most complicated characters in the series and her motives are difficult to discern to say the least.
She leads Yoshii to Lux in the very first episode, and witnesses one of her visions (i.e, the Gabe Elder's assassination) being thwarted. She promises not to reveal his future to him and her correspondences with Onishi as the 'voice of the city' dwindle.
Ran probably sees value in Yoshii as an unknown element, somebody who's very capable of tipping over the delicate balance in Lux brokered by Onishi. Yoshii realizes this too, and it's pretty clear that he recognizes that the state of the underground world is hurtling towards the same kind of stagnation he endured on the surface if the Class continue to get their way (i.e, harvesting Raffia and ruling the city through the Organo).
Ran's constantly trying to change what she's seen, but even though she's a seer she's not infallible herself. She doesn't realize how far Yoshii's willing to go, and she falters when he attempts to assassinate Onishi. After he's dispatched by Ichise (who she saved!) she withdraws and loses hope. By the end of the series, she's still trying (unsuccessfully) to prevent the show's endgame by gathering people to the Obelisk, and later, mustering them in a last-ditch attempt to fight Kano and the Shapes.
>but Ran was a messiah figure for a broken society that hinged too much on prophecy and inaction, which ultimately led to its collapse.
Something crucial to note is that most (but not all) of Gabe are fanatically devoted to her vision of the future and actively work towards fulfilling it even if it's a horrific outcome--recall when they begin mass producing high-quality weapons for the Class and then defend Iwata after he tries to betray Onishi. They only reverse course when it's too late.
Friendly reminder; Haibane Renmei was better.
Not even close
Haibane Renmei looks like the first episode of Texhnolyze look like an action thriller, 13 episode snoozefest where nothing happens and a grand total of 2 characters get any development
Was the obelisk bleeding just symbolic?
>What the fuck did I just watch?
Mouse utopia experiment in anime form
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It gets good at episode 1
So we all know about the moral of the show, a refutation of nihilism and whatever, but what do you guys think about what it says about transhumanism/evolution? In the end it was the villain who ensured people would 'survive' one way or another, and both the people on the surface and Ichise made it so that the extinction of regular humanity was inevitable.
I saw this video that the way the shapes were rooted to the ground at the end of the series was a visual homage to the way people who commited suicide look in dante's divine comedy. They were given the form of a fusion of trees and their human bodies and it was said that when the reincarnation or some shit happened they would be the only ones who would remain that way forever. This could mean that as a matter of fact the shapes fucked themselves by getting rid of their bodies and kano was misguided
Honestly, it's my dream to one day direct a live action Texhnolyze movie. I even wrote a screenplay for it already.
That scene was fucked. The whole show was fucked.
The Yoshii arc was the highlight. He played everyone and almost got away with it.
Texhnolyze would probably work very well as a live action, just needs great set design, passionate directing and cinematography, and actors with the capacity for subtle character acting. Thing is, nobody would be willing to sponsor something like it.
One thing that i think wouldnt work in live action is how oppressive the daylight is, i dunno
10/10 timeless masterpiece
I got filtered on ep 1 or 2, but not because it was boring, because it was too dense. One of these days I'll get up the moxie to watch it fully and I'll enjoy it.
In my old home country, there are a lot of abandoned or old places that look like something straight out of texhnolyze. As for sponsorship, I think some of the more insane content (like the father son incest) would have to be cut. Fortunately it doesn't require that huge of a budget. Alot of color correction is needed to make the underground scenes look dim and muddy, while the above ground scenes need to be made very bright and oppressive.
I feel like a brainlet. Please call me a speedwatcher, but help me poit out what I didn't get. I loved Lain and I liked the first episodes of Texhnolyze. Then the it becomes this boring Yakuza story, with these unending fights between gangs with Ichise just screaming for episodes and episodes, and it feels there is no real plot or character progression, until Yoshii gets shot, and all this seems so unrewarding.
I dropped it, because I think I lost something really important that gives meaning to those episodes. I want to rewatch it, but I am not sure. What am I missing?
I think all the episodes are great but the last 4 are the best in anime
Yoshii and Ran knew everyone was fucked the whole time, which is why he didn't need to know his future.
no that's pretty much it. all you are missing is character development.
the plot is literal nihilism where everyone was supposed to die.
Texhnolyze is a complete rejection of nihilism though.
The moral is against nihilism but people get hung up on the nihilistic themes.
I think is due the way we are used to watch a show. Sometimes we confuse a set of reactions and over reactions as development for a character: laughing, crying, being mad, being shy, and so. We don’t see those in many of the characters, aside the youthful trio from Raccan, and even then Shinji can be frustrating for not following the tropes of the shonen hero. We see the same and in a more radical way with Doc, Onishi, Ichise and Ran: they do change through the show but we are expecting a way more dynamic set of reaction from them for the sake of us, laugh, cry, get flustered or mad, we ask them, and we don’t get anything else than what their rooted personalities can give, which can be really frustrating. While we are seeing a natural consequence of a really grim setting, we also get confused and bored because a show isn’t “showing” like we are accustomed to. The subtle development for the characters can be a really hit or miss for viewers, hence it creates a sense of detachment because the impact is harder to feel.
No, that's not it. If you aren't confident in your interpretation, it's always interesting to read someone else's. I found this analysis pretty good.
hanagasaitayo.wordpress.com/2017/12/01/review-analysis-texhnolyze/
i argue the opposite because yoshii came to Lux to die. Ran tells Ichise he will die alone, so he just tries really hard to not die alone, causing him to die alone because everyone just dies before he does.
Is this good compared to Lain?
its not good like Lain is.
its good, but there's a reason no ones heard of it outside of Yea Forums
Varies from person to person. I loved Texhnolyze but Lain didn't really click with me.
Because there is no waifu, that’s all.
one of the best anime you'll ever watch and you'll remember it for the rest of your life
Did everyone else find it really disturbing the mc was raped by the woman he considers a mother figure. Something about that relationship was so messed up.
See, there is no point to compare the trinity of Texh, Lain and Haibane, they are not telling the same type of story or have the same type of characters neither try to counter the other shows.
And for me, I didn’t like Lain neither left me the same impression Texh did and still does. So is just a matter of taste. Also, there is no waifu in Texh, unless you take Ran, Doc or Michiko out of the setting and give them other personalities for your own sake.
The greatest anime of all time and the only anime with any artistic merit that equals that of the upper echelons of Western television like Deadwood and The Sopranos.
His previous boss was also an abusive cunt, so the two women figures in his life were pretty creepy. While Ran and his own mother were ideals that keep being distant. By the end, Ichise only got saints and witches as female figures, which is pretty interesting.
I'm a bit on the tense side. Can you briefly explain how Tex is anti nihilism and what the moral/message of the story is?
Throughout the entire series, Ichise is used by others in countless ways. He's used as a pet by the boxing promoter's wife, being emotionless while he has sex with her. He gets used by Doc as a medical experiment, destroying the only positive remnant of his past as a result of her actions. He then devotes himself to various warring groups and factions, continuing to be an tool used by various other people who are driven solely by their ideologies. It's only with his relationship with Ran that he inverts ideology, which is an ironic inversion considering she calls him a good dog early on in their relationship. Ichise goes from being nigh mute in the early part of the series to vocalizing his own personal goals during the descent back from the surface. At this point he no longer is behaving at the whim of following someone's ideology as a tool, he instead behaves in an individualistic manner as his own person who now values his personal relationships and bonds.
Compared to Kano, who has a society-ruining ideology that is so selfish it leads to violence, murder, the death of innocents and the extinction of humanity, Ichise behaves based on the most fundamental notion of humanity: personal social bonds. He finally finds his own purpose, and even though he isn't success and humanity is extinct, he dies with a smile because he spent his final moments a his own person fighting, not giving up and caring for his own companions, as opposed to merely fighting to survive for his own sake. Texhnolyze is thus one of the most uplifting anime of all time.
I'll do my best, though I'm quite bad at putting my thoughts into words. The message I got out of the story is that the act of living gives us meaning and that any effort you put in, no matter the result, is worth something to someone. Some examples are how Doc's "useless" texhnolyzation research saved Ichise, Sakimura stopping the train because Yoshii's actions gave him a small spark of life, Ran's flower brought happiness to Ichise as he lay down to die, etc. The way the nihilistic society of the surface was portrayed is downright disturbing too, there's nothing positive about the way they live and it makes Yoshii's attempt at preventing Lux from going the same way appear noble despite how radical his approach was.
Thanks guys. I guess Texhnolyze is about individualism and living for yourself, instead of living for others.
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I'd qualify that by making sure to define not living for others and living for yourself. Living for others as a complete slave to them over the extent of your own humanity is definitely critiqued in Texhnolyze. That extends to being a soldier for an idealogical group as well, as by dedicating yourself to an ideology, especially one you didn't create, you're the epitome of being a tool or a dog instead of a human being. How would anybody have died en masse if there weren't footsoldiers killing each other for the Class, Organo, etc?
However, that's not to say that you can't find purpose through caring for others on a humanistic (rather than societal) scale, as Ichise's ending demonstrates.
Likewise, it contrasts with a different form of individualism, which is Ichise at the beginning of the series. Here, we're at the opposite end of purpose through ideology: we see individualism condensed into nothing more than pure survival. Ichise has no friends, no family and is living only for himself. That's why he accepts having sex with the promoter's wife despite being completely emotionless, as winning her favor could potentially better his own life. By venturing too deep into individualism that you regress into an animal who acts on survival instinct, you lose your own humanity, which in turn can make you incredibly vulnerable to giving yourself over to something as abstract as ideology.
Overall it's about celebrating human individualism, with a key emphasis on both human and individualism.
I thought it was hot.
A series that goes downhill after based Yoshii dies
Well, so anything Yoshii does is just for nothing? I didn't get his plan either.
The thing it felt like a long filler, Ichise himself started talking about his father the very next episode. But at that point I felt I missed something so I dropped it, and if it was character developement seems a great idea to do a rewatch. But those gang fights were incredibily uninteresting and slow to me.
This will be useful, thank you.
>13 episode snoozefest where nothing happens
Tasteless fagget
>tfw reading a Tex thread on Yea Forums
Mouse utopia but with people
and yoshii did nothing wrong
anyone got any reccomendations for someone who just watched the abe trilogy
fuck it makes me sad that lain was hijacked by teens and normalfags
it was peak comfy cyberpunk
Niea_7 feels a prototype Haibane to me, though it's nowhere near as good.
Yoshii's plan is explained later in the series and you'll realize why everybody says he did nothing wrong
Watch the rest of the Konaka anime. Armitage III, Digimon Tamers, Ghost Hound, Mahoutsukaitai.
i'd actually been looking into ghost hound recently, had no idea konaka was working on it. How does it stack up to his other works?
i mean, his philosophy is out right rejected by the show
its good for texhnolyze because the normalfags and shitposters are too scared to even enter the thread so its the few shows that can actually get proper discussion on this board without devolving to shit flinging
I miss anime like those (slow paced where a lot of thing are left to interpretation). It's not something that I would like to watch every single season, but at least one of these once a year would be a nice change of pace from the anime we've been getting in these past few years.
moe culture my friend
You have no excuse. I'm a massive brainlet to the point I had to look up the MAL thread for every episode in order to get a glimpse of what the fuck was going through whatever the faggots were thinking until I just gave up halfway through and I still finished it.
Didn't he also write Ultraman Gaia? That show had some very interesting ideas and better plot than most ultra series.
Why even compare Haibane Renmei to Texhnolyze? The two shows are very different. Haibane is a personal drama, focused on the psyche. Texhnolyze is more like a statement about society as a whole. Both Haibane and Texhnolyze are among my most favorite shows, but I don't dare to say which one is better.
Edgy shit for MALtards.
It's not even rated highly on MAL, and how is it edgy?
Dont you have a snk vs hxh thread to shitpost in?
Don't you have something else to watch that is not Texhnoshit?
Not him, but there are a lot of retards on MAL who happen to "like" this shit (mostly underaged ones anyway), but when I asked one of these snowflakes what they did like about the series, this was the unedtied answer:
>I don't really know but it felt like a mature show
What made you so butthurt? Can't we have a thread about our favorite show once per a month or so?
Texhnoshittards in a nutshell.
>I don't really know but it felt like a mature show
Why dont you make a thread about your favourite show user?
I guess, people like that will invade almost any show, I'd even say Texhnolyze definitely suffers from this less than one would expect. As for me, first and foremost I like the desolate, oppressive atmosphere of both the city and the outside world, that's definitely something I look for in my favorite shows. I also love this kind of eastern style of writing where the work is presented as a riddle and you have to make sense of it yourself. There might also be multiple interpretations and you can discuss it with other people, and generally speaking, the shows stays with you longer this way.
Watched the dub for the first time recently, surprisingly not bad at all. Doc's voice is sexy as fuck
I wonder why I don't feel any need to tell people in battle shonen threads to enjoy something else just because I don't like the same thing as them. I guess it's called not being insecure. I also wonder what caused that insecurity in you. Any guesses?
Don't know, I watched it ages ago, so I don't really remember the deeper details, but only the surface episodes were good at the end. The rest was completely forgettable and nonsensical and when you have only ONE solid character (Yoshii) while the rest are complete dogshit (especially that bland and empty plot device who was the MC), that is not the definition of a competitive show.
Yoishii and Ichise both sound real cool.
then please leave, let us enjoy our thing. We like it, but you don't have to.
Wolf's Rain is pretty good
Nonsensical? Every character is some kind of a symbolic archetype. Their every motive and the way they interact with each other stems from that. Once you can categorize them, it becomes easy to see. And I'm sorry to say this, but Yoshii is the MC, not Ichise, that's why the episode where he dies is called the Epilogue, and once he dies, the world is doomed. Ichise is just an animal, a puppet who is dragged along.
I can't explain the meaning of the show in a single post, probably not even in 10 posts, but just the fact that you didn't understand it doesn't mean it's nonsensical. This kind of show usually requires multiple watches, and people like me enjoy to decode the meaning behind it.
the dub's main characters I felt actually did a better job than the sub, which I almost never feel that way about, but a fair amount of side characters have fucking awful voice acting. The sub has a much more consistent level of voice acting throughout all characters, but doesn't have the highs of the dub's Onishi, Doc, and Yoshii.
>Every character is some kind of a symbolic archetype.
I'm curious. What does each character symbolize?
I fucking hate Yoshii babies. Oonishi, Ichise and Doc are better characters, and I'd argue even Shinji simply because his last actions and words are the show's essence personified, more than anyone else.
>hurr durr he did nothing wrong
Way to show you misunderstood the show, retards. Yoshii was guided by sociopathic tendencies first, molded by the environment he lived in (The Surface) before any greater good consequences that could result of his doing in Lux. That's the point, and also why Oonishi was the only one able to hear Ran's voice in the form of the city: He's the only one that ever cared about Lux, and to put it in greater terms, this world.
I already linked an article with what I'd consider a really well thought out analysis. (). Feel free to stem through the description of the individual characters, it actually makes a lot of sense. I'm not saying that interpretation has to be one hundred percent correct, but just the fact that someone is able to write such a thorough analysis of something others would brush off as completely nonsensical tells me there might be more to the show than meets the eye.
thank you. Though i wouldnt say Onishi is completely innocent aswell. He may have been virtuous in wanting to keep peace in Lux but that stagnation is what led to the state of the surface and ultimately contributed to extinction
But Yoshii was the only one who could prevent Lux from eventually stagnating in the same way as the outside world. He wanted to awaken humanity as a whole. Onishi and Ran didn't actually prevent anything in the end.
Lux was doomed from the beginning and nothing could save it.
it kind of ironic that both the surface people and people of lux wouldnt have gone extinct if they didnt seperate from each other. They doomed themselves in doing so
Was there ever a correct answer to Lux situation? Every characters solution is flawed
I don't think so. I like Yoshii's solution the most, the way he tries to awaken humanity, destroy the old society and rebuild it anew. But in the end, he couldn't do it alone, he failed, and even if he could succeed, there is no guarantee things wouldn't end the same way eventually.
thats the point, there was no saving humanity. However i do think there is an optimistic message in there and that the story of lux and the surface world is a sort of cautionary tale
I think that's it. Lux was doomed, but not humanity. We should never separate.
Well, in the end of the show, the humanity seems doomed to me as well. Or are you talking about humanity in real world?
But Kano somehow managed to take on Yoshii’s goals. I think most people ignore that Yoshii is just playing out of boredom and doesn’t know himself what does he want, he just aims to make something different from what already happened above. Is not like he even knew what’s was he going to accomplish aside a certain death. He did wrong as much as Sakimakura got addicted to his apathy. Actually, Doc, Yoshii and Sakimakura show us different ways the scholars, the experts, decide to use their knowledge. And the three cases meet a dead end.
i think he's saying humanity wouldnt be doomed if lux was never a thing, as in if the class and people of lux never seperated
Texhnolyze had enough good plot to cover 13 episodes. All those gunfights in the middle of the series didn't serve any purpose. If you want a slower pace to heighten the atmosphere fine, but so much of the middle of story seemed like an excuse for action that had no tension because there were no stakes. Who stood to loose anything from the outcome of any particular skirmish? None of it even mattered at the end anyway. I laughed at Ichise constant screaming and repeated failure to climb stairs in the first few episodes, but that at least served a purpose even if his suffering was dragged it out to the point of absurdity. The mafia war was pointless and should have been shortened to the bare essentials needed for the larger story.
I don't think Yoshii plays just out of boredom, you even mentioned he doesn't want Lux to become like the outside world, so it can't be said he doesn't know what he wants. Maybe he can't be sure if he can acomplish it, or what exactly is going to be the final result, but what he tries to do definitely seems like a precise intent.
Yes, Kano did accomplish something similar to Yoshii's goal, but instead of just destroying the old values, Kano did destroy the society of Lux as a whole, without giving it much chance for recovery, so his solution is also flawed. He didn't reinvigorate humanity, he extinguished it. That's why I agree that no character came up with a correct answer, I guess Yoshii is just the one I understand the most.
Yoshii even states himself that he didnt know why he wanted to come down to lux until being there for a while and figuring out that he needs to shake things up to make it so lux doesnt become like the surface world
>Texhnolyze had enough good plot to cover 13 episodes
This. Also, a lot of the action felt shitty
Yeah, you might be right on that one after all. I guess he couldn't even see what kind of place Lux was before deciding to come there, so the initial motive might have been "boredom". But perhaps it could also be called rejection of the societal values of the surface world, the desire to look for something different. He comes to Lux and I guess he finds what he was looking for to a certain degree, but realizes the place is set on the same path as the surface world. Once he decides what needs to be done in order to prevent it, he isn't just acting randomly without knowing what he wants.
Imagine pretending to like this on the internet to assuage your enormous inferiority complex. Almost as bad as lainfags.
Imagine thinking people are just pretending to like this show. Isn't a conclusion such as yours usually called projection?
imagine going into another thread to shitpost because your insecure about your own taste in shows. SnK thread is that way
There is a difference between shows that are (or are trying to be) deep and shows that are just well made and have strong enough ideas that they can be interpreted in many ways. Tex ain't le deep show, it's just a very well written show.
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I am the first user, I said boredom because the reasons to leave the above are always a sense of frustration out of the fact that they are trapped in eternity until “the end”, so if they already achieved a certain type of immortality, what are they looking in Lux? A scape for that terrifying end through the intensity of the moment, knowing the moment doesn’t exist in a time world. Yoshii was looking for that, something to spice his awareness of how human life can end, but knowing that death is what it comes, he really didn’t want a change for the best in Lux, otherwise he could have helped Onishi, the only dreaming on keeping the status quo. He wanted a show, because action is what he considered the antithesis of above.
Truth about human nature.
And your point is?
Keep telling that to yourself, they are plenty of people talking about this outside of here.
I wish more anime had intentional pleb filters if it meant having threads like these
I don't know why these faggots always show up in Texh threads. I absolutely fail to understand why would someone spend hours upon hours watching, analyzing and discussing something they don't like. While I'm aware that "no u" is a bad retort, I can't imagine anyone making a conclusion that people just pretend to like a show to fight their inferiority complex unless they are susceptible to such behavior themselves.
Except Tex actually has depth and is fun to discuss unlike Lain.
One of the most retarded posts I've read in months. This absolute obsession with trying to pretend that some shows aren't actually deep as a way to not be mocked by entry-level anime fans and contrarian shitposters is almost as bad as ironic memesters avoiding to show their true colors by downplaying everything as cringe.
What about Kuucho buranko? For a comedy, it hardly got people watching it to the end.
Buranko is the only comedy that feels more tragic than an actual tragedy. It's an incredibly well-made show and it's their loss for not watching it completely.
Agree. There is plenty of depth in Texhnolyze, but what sets it apart from some "similar" shows is it isn't pretentious. It doesn't try to shove its meaning into your face and doesn't go out of its way to impress you. Inattentive watcher will simply think they watched a boring show about gang violence, while it's anything but that if you are willing to look below the surface level.
To prevent or achieve something from others without turning yourself into a Yoshii who saw people from Lux as paws, you actually need to somehow respect the free will of them or act towards those actions once they are turning into those. Otherwise you have Yoshii playing god and pretending he got a superior view and nobody understands him, Kano was the same, once you stop being able to see the other as an equal, you are doomed. The disgrace for Ran and Onishi is they kept seeing the others as equals even in their crimes and sins, and realized there wasn’t a way to guide them without dehumanizing them.
Maybe Yoshii isn't happy with the eternity spent in stagnation, perhaps he realizes keeping the status quo will only lead Lux to the same fate. But even though I don't think I fully agree just yet, what you said is definitely an interesting take, I will have to give it some more thought. This is what I like about shows like Texhnolyze, there always is something to discuss and some new information to process.
I always wanted to like Psycho pass for this reason, but once the characters started to shove bibliography for the sake of doing it, I became disappointed. Malísima was the biggest deception to me, a random character who tried to play Yoshii but was lead to nothing by the writers.
One thing I never really got about Tex: What was the deal with Oonishi giving his legs to an unknown child that turned out to be Kano ?
kano's family is the secret controlling force behind lux so i guess they forced him to. Kano's baby legs looked funny as fuck tho
Most of the characters aim for something beyond death, they call it evolution but is just an empty word to shove they fears of the end and nothingness. That’s why I feel Yoshii didn’t have goal beyond making trouble and making it double, because he was, by the end, as lost as Doc, Sakimakura and Ran: they wished for something else than disappear from existence but didn’t know how or what is that. For instance, Ichise and Onishi don’t bother about those questions, Ran is aware those questions are senseless, and Kano is too egocentric to think outside of his own ego.
My problem with Psycho-Pass was more that the MC, Kogami, didn't feel on the same level as his supposed nemesis, Makishima. I pardon the pseud-moments of Makishima because they felt more like a joke, he doesn't really rely on this when it comes to the real substance of his character. Makishima definitely loved life (which I can't be so sure to say about Yoshii) and wanted to see it again at its potential rawest, eventually making it feel natural again. At least compared to the life established by the Sibyl System. His death is pretty feelsy, but my problem is with the narration trying to make me believe Kogami was some sort of parallel to him with some "they knew each other better than they knew themselves" when in actuality the show did nothing to make me see Kogami as any different from your average police agent.
Also another problem with Psycho-Pass was that it wasn't as subtle as Tex obviously. The scene where you just have a random woman get beaten in public and nobody does anything because the system isn't saying that's criminal behavior is too forced for me.
I don't fucking remember this, I should fucking rewatch this
Didn’t he was convinced he was doing a selfless sacrifice for someone who was “better” than him and also coerced because they were from the Class? The best part of this is that Kano just disposed of his legs like they were trash so any sense of a good deed in the transaction was destroyed.
I think the show rejected his methods but not his intentions. Though to be fair, he probably didn’t know of any other method. Thinking about it now, it’s tragic that Lux fighting for Ran is a true act of unified humanity, instead of fighting over territory or ideology. What makes it tragic is that it was too little too late.
You are pretty right about Makishima and Kogami.
>watch the show for the last few episodes
Good thread Yea Forums. I hope everyone who posted in it has a good day. I fucking love Texhnolyze.
>rewatching just for 1 scene.
You can just check ep.11.
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Yeah, Psycho Pass is definitely one of the shows that suffer from this. I also really wanted to like Ergo Proxy, but they kind of overdid it with the pretentiousness and constant repetition of phrases like "raison d'etre". Both have relatively simple, but still very interesting and original premises (even though I definitely can see the inspiration taken from Minority Report and Blade Runner). There definitely is some depth in these shows, but I feel like the authors tried to make them into something they are not, and didn't really succeed.
>Not rewatching Texhnolyze
This show gets better every time I see it.
>streaming
fuck off retard. I have it stored in my harddrive for ages
ABe and Konaka threads are almost always good. These shows are one of the few that encourage some kind of a discussion instead of posting softcore porn and arguing.
>not a shonen
>no waifus
>no shipping potential
>no moe
This show is a deterrent for 90% of Yea Forums
Yeah, this is something I can agree with. I still have the feeling Yoshii's intent is somewhat clear, but I agree the end goal is uncertain. I can't really call his approach the only correct one, in fact, it looks like neither of them is correct in the end.
>No moe
I mean, Haibane Renmei, for example has plenty of potential waifus, but the threads are also very good. The rest of the points definitely stand though.
Also best part of the anime is guys were from ottermode to bara, no twinks allowed.
If you ignore the ones who dream about fucking Rakka or Reki or write their headcanons of pinching their wings, then yes, from time to time, Haibane is well discussed here.
There's usually around 5 posts along those lines in every HR thread while everyone else talks about the show, though occasionally you'll get some art dumps. It's quite easy to ignore them.
Oh yes, but they only get called disguisting, that is if they receive any (You)s at all.
Honestly i didn't like it much, not because of the content mind you, but i felt that the message that "Everything you try to do will be useless in the long term and you should just embrace nihilism because at the end of the day everything was doomed before you even started". I'm not asking for a carebears aesop but damn, did we really need this? Even if wasn't blatant, the message that you should just stop caring about anything feels kinda... doomerish for me.
We talked about it earlier in the thread but while it may appear that way at first it actually had the opposite meaning and was very much against nihilism. Or at least that's what some of us think. ( and the rest of the conversation have some good points)
That’s the message you took from watching it? I think the nihilism label harms a lot the show. But for once, what else do you expect? Death awaits for us, and is a fact, not a tragedy or a challenge, is going to happen and we live with the tictac. How you decide to see that fact is your own choice: fear, indifference, negligence, and so. So by the end, of you only get that the message is not caring then you need to check yourself. Because all the characters cared and that’s why they ended like they did due the circumstances they faced. The theonormals were the ones who stopped caring, Yoshii and Sakimkura are the ones who wanted a distraction, Sakimakura was alienated by the doomerish inaction and Yoshii by the doomerish action.
Well, shit, i should have lurked more before posting that. I guess it's a case of interpretation, at first i thought it was all about nihilism given that Lux was (Probably) doomed from the start. Now that i have read that, this made me realize that it's not about the results of the actions of the characters, but the actions themselves. In that case, while Ichise may have died, he died with a smile in his face, showing the good side of individualism.
Hell, that's actually pretty unique.I'm going to rewatch the show again, since some you guys pointed out that there things many people miss in the first time through.
the first four episodes were borderline incoherent for me but its so satisfying to go back and watch them once you know whats going on
I had the same sort of ideas the first time I finished Texhnolyze. When I finally sat down and rewatched it after reading years worth of discussions on it I felt like I was watching a completely different show, it was amazing.
I'd like to point out that Yoshii (and not only him) died with a smile on his face, so perhaps one of the points is that even in a doomed world, you, as an individual, can still find existential gratification. There definitely are nihilistic themes throughout the show, but I believe positive nihilism is a very diferent concept from the usual kind of nihilism.
I can connect with this a lot, and like shows with similar themes, such as Girls Last Tour although it isn't as profound as this one.
Girls last tour has a similar idea, but is more lighthearted and comedic overtone to it. It also kinda hides the nihilistic overtone until the end, when the girls finally reach the rooftop and... nothing happens. But instead of crying or falling into desperation, they just accept it, eat the last of their food, and sleep while thinking what to do from them on (Or possibly die, depending on your interpretation). It's possible that they knew from the start that their journey would lead to nowhere, but they made it anyways, not for glory, not to save anything or someone, but because they could. And the fact that they managed to accomplish something, even if it's only a personal desire in the middle of a doomed world is... strangely beautiful.
Yeah, that's really well put and exactly what I took from it.
So what was his problem?
for me texhnolyze is more about way of life
ichise doesn't have one so he chose to let organo tell him what to do
him caring about ran and his mom and dad is just natural phenomenon like when someone pissed you off, you beat him, not really because he cares about his personal relationships or anything
also at the very end he was still a part of organo and still treat onishii as his boss, so he actually has no purpose and his only purpose was letting organo telling him what to do and he only cared about ran because ran was being used by kano that pissed him off
Rape?
Everyone wanted his ass.
i dont get the point of his implied sex with ichise. Is it just to show that tooyama is so sexually provocative that the only way he knows how to reward someone is with sex?
Did they even do it? I know is left to the viewer but I don’t think they fucked. Sexual experiences for Ichise were portrayed as a transaction, from his boss and Doc. Tooyama was too much of a bro for that.
i'd have to watch it again but i'm pretty sure i got strong vibes from the scene. If i remember correctly tooyama goes behind ichise and reaches around to untie his tie and then it pans away
Wasn’t Tooyama giving him a fashion advice about the tie? I know that it could mean other think, but I feel Tooyama was able to grasp the true nature of Ichise and taking his tie he recognize this?
ITs been decades since I watched this and I still don't know.
This was just like Lain, I didn't like it, It bored me to death, I wanted to stop watching, but for some reason there I was, watching every single episode. I think these shows had subliminal messagers or something to make you keep watching.
Slow garbage that is praised by brainlets because "dude depressing and VIOLENT and nothhing matters lmao"
Way to out yourself as one of the few actual brainlets that might be present itt. It hasn't even been an hour since the meaning of the show was last discussed and it definitely isn't anything like you suggest.
It isn't our fault you didn't understand the show and can't emphatize with people who enjoyed it, those are just your own shortcomings.
>Honestly, it's my dream to one day direct a live action Texhnolyze movie
Unironically wish you achieve your dream, user.
Cringe.
>it's my dream to one day direct a live action Texhnolyze
Tarkovsky or Herzog should help.
This article is horrendous.
Whaaat? I completely missed that. Can someone tell me what episode and what scene it was in?
It's bullshit, don't pay it attention.
You are completely off the mark. How the fuck did you even interpret it that way ?
best anime ever
Worst anime ever.
Really? I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I think he did get a lot of things right, he did an especially good job at shedding some light on the symbolism. But of course, you know better! It's easy to act high and mighty and dismiss the entire multi-chapter article using a single sentence without actually saying what's wrong with it. It would be fine saying the article has flaws and pointing them out, but just calling it horrendous without any explanation screams contrarian.
The only problem with that theory is that the Organo organization were the only ones capable of stopping Kano and the shapes. Had they stalled Kano long enough they may have the opportunity to put the doctor's work into practice. A cleaner texhnolyze process that probably would have settled the dispute Organo had with the salvation alliance.
There are major errors about characters (especially Doc and Ran), and the idea that Yoshii is the main character because the episode where he dies is titled Conclusion is laughable at best.
Organo didn’t achieve anything, Doc reached her own limits and decided Ichise may be what she was looking for and decided to test it better in The Class. We will never know what could have happened, most of the first reaction that lead Ichise were under the idea his parents were still with him, later those ideas are destroyed but by that moment the texhnolyze is a minor plot for Ichise’s development, even by the end is a useless tech that gives him more problems than solution. The only thing Organo brought, and only thanks to Onishi, was a Cold War always at the bridge of breaking in. Which is basically the way we are living right now.
but it's not the mouse utopia experiment at all. For one the mouse experiment is a retarded model to compare anything to besides overpopulation, Lux doesn't even meet any of the requirements of the experiment, everyone isn't crammed together, and there's high resource inequality between the Class, Lux, and Gabe. The conflicts and eventual collapse are from a much more human and philosophical basis, not from limits of population. If you really want an example of what Texhnolyze is about, read Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
I wouldn't call them errors, it's simply his own interpretation of the show, I believe it makes sense even though there are some conclusions that are subjective at best. Are we even sure what's the correct interpretation anyway? That main character thing doesn't really change the meaning of the work at all, it's just a label, and an interesting idea at the very least, because it's true that Ichise doesn't feel like main character at all, more like a passive observer that just goes along with everything and isn't capable of changing anything. You really have some high standards if that's enough to call a whole article horrendous.
>Doc
>She left the surface world and went to test and develop the texhnolyze technology on Lux's guinea pigs, as ordered by her superiors.
There's literally nothing in the show that points to her being from the surface world orthat she was even ordered directly by the Theonormals. What's actually established is that she left the Class to go practice her work in the city; she's as much a 'heretic' to the Class as Kano is. In fact, she's one of the only characters apart from Onishi (though he's only vaguely aware of him as a child) who truly knows Kano early in the series. They're in sporadic correspondence for the early part of the show before he tires of her work and destroys her research when she tries to take Ichise to the Hill. The connection that Doc herself makes between the Class and the Theonormal is that she believes that the Class were eventually going to be allowed to return to the surface, as they're the ones responsible for delivering the shipments of Raffia, and were also essentially acting as intermediaries for the Theonormal. Her visit to the surface with Sakimura and Ichise is her first and last journey there.
>JESUS-RAN
I don't even know where to start with this. At no point does the show ever state or imply that Ran spreads the 'word' of the Class "and God." The idea that she's 'worshipped by the Lux citizens' is flimsy at best because she's obviously not worshipped by them.The Organo recognize her importance (through Onishi and whatever agreement was established between Gabe and the Organo forcontrol of the city) and most ofthem know not to harm her. This isn't the case for thugs in the Rakan or members of the Union, which is why thefox-masked Gabevillagersare around the city to protect her.She's important mainly to Gabe, and the Elder/Sage explains that a seer is born to Gabe every generation, and that the seer always foretells the destruction (and rebirth) of the underground city.
There is no 'replacing' of Ran with Kano by some grand design via the Class. Like Doc says to Onishi, Kano's ambitions are considered heretical to the Class, who are secretive, cloistered, and incestuous. They're more concerned with the flow and supply of Raffia so they don't pay any heed to Kano's 'games' untilit's clear theybegin to affect their livelihood (minor characters note that the Raffia yields are dwindling, possibly due to the eventual mass Shaping of the city's populace or by simple over-harvesting). If the Shapes were part of the Class's "plan" so to speak, there would be no need for Kano's mothers, who seem to exert some authority over the Class as a whole, to task Onishi and Shinji with stopping him. Furthermore, Kano (or the Class for that matter)doesn't even seem to be aware that Ran exists until his stitch-faced servant Zushi lets him know that she's gathering people around the Obelisk near the end of the show.
Cutting up that wall of text into two posts fucked with the formatting so apologies for that!
On my second watch I interpreted that scene as him and Ichise having sex
On my third watch I realized that he removed Ichise's tie(that Ichise doesnt like wearing) to teach him that even though he's now tied to the rules of the Organa he can still make his own choices
Thank you. I appreciate you giving me an actual opinion, and I find it valuable. I will have to focus on this during my rewatch and form an opinion myself. For some reason, I really had the feeling Doc was from the surface. The Jesus part is exactly the thing I would call subjective and don't really feel like it has a solid ground in the article, I can definitely agree with you on that.
>Kano (or the Class for that matter)doesn't even seem to be aware that Ran exists until his stitch-faced servant Zushi lets him know that she's gathering people around the Obelisk near the end of the show.
This is the only thing that seems sketchy to me. Isn't Kano calling her his sister, Theoria? I have to admit it has been quite some time since I've last seen the show, so details escape my mind.
Where can I get a decent to good quality version of it?
Theoria means to look/to see in greek. Could alude to ran's abilities but i dont think she is actually kano's sister
No blu ray release so best ur gonna get is 480p. Just go on nyaa.si
No, but it seems to imply some kind of a deeper relationship than just recently learning about her existence, well, that's another thing to look out for during a rewatch.
I remember seeing some comparison shots in the Yea Forums archive, the US DVD rips everyone uses are a lot darker than the JP rip provided here: (I think this was it)
nyaa.si
Also, on that note. Is it really such an outlandish opinion to claim Ran is the product of the Class to keep the population in check by giving them some kind of an idol? I doubt she appears just out of nowhere. Texhnolyze doesn't seem to dive into the supernatural, so I don't think the consciousness of the city can just manifest by itself. Of course, not everyone can be controled by religion, and there are some heavy themes of individualism in Texhnolyze after all. It would also make sense to me why Kano calls her his sister if this was the case.
Literally mentally retarded.
Texhnolyze is really good in the sense that a bunch of shit is hidden in the direction that you can't possibly notice on a first watchthrough and are greatly amused by upon going back, but then you stop to ask yourself why they didn't just write a coherent plot in the first place. Yea Forums always shills shit like this as "revolutionary" and a "pleb filter", but you have to realize it takes more skill as an author to pace the reader's understanding of worldbuilding elements and character arcs/motivations in a particular order with meaning behind it than it does to write some lore and smatter it haphazardly throughout the story via visual metaphors and make them piece it out themselves. Some people may have more fun experiencing stories in this manner, likely mystery fans, but they are objectively more brainlet-esque on the writing end.
I watched Texhnolyze like 8 years ago. I think I'll rewatch it in the coming weeks. But can anyone give me a quick reminder on what Kano was, what was his motivation and goal in the story?
I don't know who claim it's revolutionary. It's a specific kind of eastern writing style, other prominent examples obviously being other ABe and Konaka's shows, some of Haruki Murakami's books and if you like video games, then I'd say Yoko Taro. It's done so with clear intent and yes, some people like that. I disagree with it being inferior to different styles of writing, or even "brainlet-esque", it takes a lot of skill to maintain the balance between giving the consumer not quite enough information to get everything straight away, but enough to eventually figure it out. Some ambiguity is also good, because it encourages discussion and the shows stays with you longer when you still have things to figure out.
Ran and her kind are also able to see a future but one future, hence the theoria tittle. It can be a diversion but I doubt is plainly planned by the class, most likely they know how easily is to be lured by the promise of ONE future.
On Ran and Kano, there's definitely something going on with them but not the way the article makes it out.
They have the most striking character designs in the show, they both have unique, contrasting hair colour (Kano's blue you could even associate with the incestuous nature of his birth) and similarly gold/yellow eyes. Kano first refers to his two-headed statue he always keeps with him (he obsesses over it, and most likely created it) as his "dear sister," and iirc, he doesn't begin to refer to it as Theoria until after he captures Ran and has her Shaped onto the statue. It's probably fair to say he desires her foresight.
There's also the sense that he covets Ran because he feels akin to her status as Gabe's seer, since he believes he is the grand product of the Class (and his 3 mothers) as Lux's brain or 'nerve center.'
I'll also say that JESUS RAN will always feel iffy to me because of her mask; there are official materials (on the original English release sites that are long dead) that associate her gifts of foresight and the fox mask with Shinto, and that fox deities bring good omens and watch over agrarian communities (literally Gabe).
Yes, Jesus seems just like a western bias, because thats the first thing that comes to mind as a religious idol in our culture. It is never implied why it should be him of all the other possibilities. What you write makes sense.
Yes. It's also present when the author of the article associates Kohakura's description of Lux at show's end as "the ninth annex of the Revivng Hell" with Dante/circles of hell, which is really common among us English-speaking viewers.
I've posted this in previous Texh threads before: my Japanese is hot garbage but Kohakura refers explicitly to the Japanese term for the Buddhist repeating (the subs use "Reviving") hell, and the title he uses is also wordplay on the Japanese rendering of Lux.
The Buddhist stuff also crops up throughout the show, "Rakan," the Shapes as the preta or "hungry ghosts," Gabe's belief that the destruction and rebirth of the city is cyclical and doesn't end, etc.,
Well Oonishi was the only Organo that could communicate with the voice and I don't think he knew Ran was the voice until the end and up to that point just knew her as Gabe's farseer girl. Honestly it's probably the only plot line I was left really confused about, Ran being the obelisk/voice. For Kano's plan I always assumed a major part of it was going after Ran, Gabe preemptively geared up to fight them and were taken out first then Organo and Gabe members inside Lux rallied specifically to defend her.
>It's probably fair to say he desires her foresight.
I'd say it's pretty clear, he seems to have blinded himself after capturing Ran. His eyes in the last episode are fogged up, though it could also be a side effect of his texhnolyzation, and he doesn't look at Ichise when they're talking. The line "She can't be me eyes any more" can probably be taken literally too as he's talking in a very matter-of-fact manner during that scene, I wouldn't be surprised if his goal was to merge his mind with Ran's.
I wonder what he meant by having intercourse with Lux though, I thought he thought he was Lux.
Well, to be honest, there are lots of similarities even if I consider the original meaning of the dialogue. The shapes really end up rooted in the ground and frozen among other things.
But it suddenly seems less obvious. Especially since being stuck here for all eternity doesn't really go along with the theme of repeating and the cycle of rebirth you mentioned. Again, thanks for the interpretation, this is definitely some food for thought. I will have to leave the thread now, so I won't be replying anymore, but I will definitely read through it tomorrow in case some new posts come up.
I always get a feeling I've finally understood Texhnolyze, but in the end, it only raises more questions. But I guess that's what I like about the show after all.
>Well Oonishi was the only Organo that could communicate with the voice and I don't think he knew Ran was the voice until the end and up to that point just knew her as Gabe's farseer girl.
Yeah, I was just saying that the Organo, either through Onishi's (or Gotoh's) influence, know that Ran/the seer is important to Gabe and most of the Organo won't harass or fuck with her--Onishi does visit her for help/guidance in the next episode, after all. It's also said earlier on that Gabe and the Organo have something hashed out where the Organo offer them protection (i.e the guards posted in Gabe that the two Union thugs assassinate when they try to go after Ran and the Gabe Elder in ep 1). It's definitely related to what the book Yoshii's reading says about how the Organo basically wrested control of leadership of affairs underground from Gabe through force. These days I wonder if the seer was a means for Gabe to re-assert some control over events underground.
>For Kano's plan I always assumed a major part of it was going after Ran, Gabe preemptively geared up to fight them and were taken out first then Organo and Gabe members inside Lux rallied specifically to defend her.
I think this might be a mis-reading of events. As I said earlier, Gabe aren't 'pre-emptively gearing up to fight' anybody. In fact, the weapons they're mass-producing are meant to be sent directly to Kano/the Class. The trigger guards on those weapons look astonishingly familiar to the crazy railguns the Shapes wield. In the same episode when Iwata turns on Onishi and tries to kill him, he says he's found a comfier position in a group that's not related to the other factions (probably why he killed the Union spy/infiltrator). The masked Gabe villagers also flock to his protection when Onishi unsucessfully tries to ask who bought him off. This stuff also happens in close proximity to an unknown buyer vacuuming up all the junked Texhnolyze parts scattered throughout the city.
>"I watched Texhnolyze like 8 years ago"
>still remembers enough to ask specific character questions
I wonder if I'm just amnesiac or if everyone else on board has just superb memory, but I watched Texhnolyze only couple of years back and remember there was this one dude with a hat.
I'm also gonna add that there's more evidence for Gabe not fighting anybody. Zushi explicitly tells Kano later on that the people they sent to attack/Shape Gabe are complaining because the villagers don't offer any resistance. Ultimately they're all committed to FORCING Ran's prophecy to come true, sending everybody hurtling down into the abyss with them.
There are dissenters that crop up later in the show, and by the end of it even the Gabe Elder relents and tries to divert people towards protecting Ran, which doesn't work out. Even the most committed in Gabe recognize that the endgame in Lux isn't the simple destruction/rebirth cycle that they've seen time and time again, things really are coming to a definite end.
I would say the fate of a seer is also a curse, as pretty much Ran states: she can see only one future. While Kano is blinded by his own vision of said future. I am not sure if Kano really wanted Ran’s abilities at all, he wanted her bond with Lux, because her visions pretty much settle her own despair. A seer who can’t see and a voice who can’t resonate, lose their meaning but at the same time are free from their fates. Sadly this was achieved through destruction and death, but Ran and Kano were being blinded for a future and were unable to look at their surroundings. “no one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of god”, at this point the curse of Ran is that when she sees the one future she is already trapped in a past: a future that to her is going to happen so already happened, she is constantly looking back. Maybe the curse was broken by Ichise but she probably died before acknowledging this.
I watched Texh again a month ago, there is no way I could remember this if I only rely in what I remember when I was 17.
I took a break about as long as him before rewatching and while I did forget a lot there was no way I could forget Kano or the Shapes, that shit scarred me.
Yeah sorry you're right I went and looked definitely the class the guy even say it's not the union so it doesn't really leave any other option. I guess I just asummed why would Gabe help the Class? That if they have farseer then they already knew what was going to happen and what they'd do to Ran.
>meant to watch this for years now
>always forget to grab it when someone randomly uploads a new batch to nyaa
>only one with seeds right now is an upscale
A really great show. I came for the edge and stayed for based yoshii and the feels but I didn't sign up to feel what I felt though.
The first time you watch it you're experiencing the story as Ichise; everything is terrible but also confusing and new. The second time you watch you're experiencing it as Ran; you know the ending but you're still forced to watch the trainwreck in slow motion. Not really a gimmick IMO, more like two stories in one.
>I guess I just asummed why would Gabe help the Class? That if they have farseer then they already knew what was going to happen and what they'd do to Ran.
I honestly don't know. The Elder says that Gabe heeds the words of their seer, and that's probably all that matters, even if they end up actually working against her. I suspect that they don't realize her visions are extinction-level at this point, and probably believe that the destruction of the city is the same as the others they've lived through and that Gabe will remain untouched as it always has. This is without knowledge that the surface world has completely given up, and that Kano's more than willing (and totally able, with the Class's resources) to get everybody in on his plans, so to speak.
The Elder (or maybe somebody else?) does say at some point that residents of Gabe were the first migrants to Lux--this is pure speculation, but in previous times the 'rebuilt' city might have been re-populated by newer generations of Gabe residents. Recall that Gotoh says that he made the choice to stay in Lux--presumably to form the Organo--rather than go to Gabe because he felt like doing something with his life.
So what's the best release? I've been holding onto the R1 DVD isos for the longest time since they looked the best for me back then.
Do you guys think Texhnolyze worked best as or was better for being an anime? What exactly does the show need from the medium that it couldn't have had if it were a movie series or something.
The kuchikirukia version uses the R2's and is 10bit so I use that one. It does have some issues with the sub typesets being inconsistent for the first few episodes but it's the best one in my mind.
Is more about the time it was made by the people who decided to did it in the context they did it. Some things like shapes or the texhnolizes would have been hard to achieve if it was made as a live action, as well as the action. Maybe in that time getting good actors was easier than nowadays, at least for a project the could be considered a “flick”. So, maybe 2003 wasn’t the best moment for a cyberpunk live action or tv show, but the creators had more freedom. I do think that if a project has passion and commitment, it doesn’t matter the times. Now, these days my worst nightmare is Texhnolyze getting attention from Hollywood, because they would butcher it for the sake of the social agenda, and they would try to change some characters’s fates because it doesn’t fit what people expect from them. I am talking about the female cast and Toyama, they would be pretty ruined if some western touch them.
Anyone else feel like the mood of the show totally changed when the shapes showed up? I liked more before them.
I think most people prefer the first half of the show with Yoshii since he's a much more charismatic and endearing villain than Kano. We also spend a lot of time with him learning about the city--he's almost an audience surrogate in the sense that he's just as new to Lux as the viewer, really.
It also helps that Yoshii's motives are a lot more tangible and clear-cut than Kano's. The second half of the show, especially with Kano's constant pretentious-ass manchild rambling, is a bit too esoteric and difficult to understand. I'm still trying to figure him out completely.
That being said, I think the build-up to Kano works pretty well and he's crucial to how emotionally draining the ending is, so at least there's that.
The surface world episodes are still one of the best experiences I've ever had with an anime, all these years later
I can't imagine a niche show like Texhnolyze ever getting attention from the west. I could see them butchering Lain though.
>I think most people prefer the first half of the show
I don't.
Le angery mechanical arm man
I wish this show had more merch, I'd love an artbook.
And mechanical leg.
I wonder if I could get my penis texhnolyzed?
Boring bullshit
I have a really detailed memory when it comes to character names and some other small details. But the plot is kinda fuzzy in my head.
iqdb also tells you what it is
Konaka is into blackpill conspiracy stuff. Texhnolyze is 100% based on mouse utopia. It's in the decline phase.