Rei vs Saber

>Anno hates Rei and is determined to wipe her fanbase from the face of he earth by making shitty films
>Nasu/Type-Moon REALLY likes Seiba/Artoria and makes various clones including a billion dollar mobile game
Trying to be non-bias but it's pretty obvious who the winner is.

Rei isn't even the queen waifu in her own show

>implying Saber didn't

She didnt

>liking fate is zoomer

if anything its the other way around now that all the normies are watching eva on netflix

Saber. Rei and Evaniggers can fuck off. They got two banger songs and Misato and that's fucking it.

Unlike those underages playing fgo on their cellphones, right?

Underages don't spend hundreds on a mobile game

she did, though. Saber is one of the most popular characters of all time. Rei is hated by her creator.

>Anno hates Rei and is determined to wipe her fanbase from the face of he earth
Stop with this meme.

Rei created clones (not in the anime but people trying to copy her look style personality)
Saber is a clone

advantage: Rei

Saber singlehandedley made fate one of the highest grossing game franchises

this

You know that it isn't true, right? Don't be parrots and NPCs.

People born in the 2000s are already 19yo

He had a discussion with Ikuhara on making Rei pregnant to annoy otaku. He made Rei into a lifeless robot in Rebuild 3.33 Saber wins this contest hands down.

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anime boomers vs zooomers

The erogefag doesn't understand what the Rebuild is going for, what a surprise really.
Jesus Christ.

>Rei is mentioned in books written by Reifags in academia
Wow mindblown
Robin Williams being a Reifag is more impressive to be honest

Saber... She is Fighter and King independent Woman
Rei ??? She is just Shinji's Gf

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>they wrote about her importance therefore they're reifags
Oh gee it's like you've never read any of them and seen the harsh tone some of them adopt.

Rei Q isn't a different Rei. Our Rei is still alive. Pokka pokka soon

Saber -> BadAss Fighter, King of Britain
Independent Strong female Character, Icon of Fate
Rei -> Pretty Girl ...

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this is such a great shot

Rei isn't even best girl in her own show

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Literally neither of them had much of an impact
Rei is already a parody of a centuries old cliche, you could argue that she created a Sub-Cliche but still that cliche was popular in Japanese fiction for centuries

the sheer ignorance ITT is tragic

and then fate children wonder why they're so chastised

Nobody liked memegarden stupid retard, stop spamming your shitty waifu

fsn is unironically better than eva

Yes, Anno's attempt to criticize his own fanbase "curse of the Eva" and shit on his fanbase some more by making a mediocre CGI ridden fan service-y low quality piece of shit. There is nothing to Rebuild of Eva and doesn't even measure up to any Ufotable films of Fate. This is an indisputable fact.

Look at That jaw line
Im not Lesbian but... that is so attrative

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Soundgarden is one of the most respected Grunge bands of all time you idiot

King Saber bows to ToraBuru

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>harsh tone
lmao
When you've read one weeb """intellectual study""" you've read them all

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Because everyone is the same just like you folk right?

Saber turned me gay

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Both are trash. Neither are even the best girls in their own series.

Asuka and Rin are both superior.

Let's be honest, you haven't read a single visual novel. Dumb secondary.

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kek your mad is showing ESL
I'm sorry you can't handle the truth - there is no such thing as a "harsh tone" in academia

Both eva and fate are outdated trash

This but unironically

>not illya
How gay are you?

At least Iri Love her
Look at that iri's Smug

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Here is something better: Rin and Saber is better than both Robot Ayanami than Slutka.

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>be me
>go to one of those Eva stores in Fukuoka a couple weeks ago
>thinking about buying merch
>about 90% of them are based on the Rebuild version of the characters
It was upsetting

He's just one of those people that like getting beat up and yelled at.

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Every one Respect Our King ...
Even Lancelot knock his Head down

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Ilya>>Asuka>Saber>Taiga>Rin=Rei>>Sakura>Misato

So? 19yos aren't underage, faggot.

Illya is automatically off the list for waifu because she's imouto you inbred retard

Read Christopher Howard, Tamaki Saitou and Hiroki Azuma.

Going off your logic, that makes rei a chirico cuvie clone

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Saber's only value is the same as Asuka's. Looks. If you gave her a less flashy character design no one would like her.

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Based and REDpilled

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Rei got Mogudan, Saber? fucking nothing

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Nah, Slutka is a fucking whore who faps it to Kaji.

This is pretty accurate. It's like asking how popular fucking Char is. It's a character so popular and influential that clones of them have become insanely ubiquitous throughout anime and games.

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The question is which of them is more popular in Japan, so of course the ironic weebs here interpret it as a question of which character they pretend to like the best and which character is therefore objectively the best and most popular.

Probably Rei but Saber is definitely a close second. I'm a die hard Saberfag btw. Those two are probably the two most influential anime girls though. The sheer amount of derivative designs and characters should be proof enough of that. Not to mention the $$$

Saber created the genderbend in anime. Like it or not.

This.
You can't beat the tsun.

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Learn to read. They said girl, not waifu, you absolute fucktard.

Do the fortnite dance

That's bullshit and you know it. The nips obviously like the genderbent King Arthur thing. There's a significant part of her popularity that results from being an interesting character.

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This. Even though the Fate franchise now has hundreds of waifus and Saberfaces, and even though Saber hasn't starred in her own anime in years, she still tops the charts.
Saber is the best designed waifu ever.

There aren't that many characters lile Char outside or Gundam what are you talking about? He's not very influential. He's cool but not influential.

Neither of those things are true.

I dunno, I feel like the cool, blonde (or at least light-haired),enemy rival character with some sort of mysterious or secondary motivation is a pretty common trope. Or some variation of it. With optional red color scheme.

The king arthur just adds prestige to the character to give her a more attractive status but as far interesting goes, there's nothing interesting about her character. Anyways you wouldn't like her if she didn't has a flashy character design and you know it.

Kuudere can beat the tsundere It has, too.

Rei’s Character archetype existed before she did. The only thing new she really brought to the table was the hair

It's really kind of unfair at this point

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Do you think Rei can dance the Can-Can?

>2010
Yep, zoomer waifu confirmed right there.

How dare you like girls who have a personality

>moving goalpost
Cringe

You're an idiot. The genderbend thing, a cute girl being a King, being respectably/modestly designed (which was weird for a god damned porn game), and also she herself being a fucking badass, are all interesting things outside her design. You can't just wave her personality away, at least not the one from the VN which was written without knowing how popular she would be. It was a bit risky at the time because it was meant to compete against other galge. Nasu was legitimately worried she wouldn't be popular. She was written as a man essentially. Her design has changed to cute bubbly girl compared to how she originally acted in 2004.

>zoomer
fuck off Yea Forumstard

>Violet Evergarden
>Darkness
>Ais Wallenstein
I'm sure there's more, but I try not to watch generic fantasy.

Rei ->literal god
There fixed it for you

So if
Saber = Rei
Rin = Asuka
Taiga = Misato
Who is the Kaworu equivalent in the fate series?

Illya

There is nothing superior about liking tsunshit

saber > asuka

This image gives me some pretty rough feels. Look at how much pure agony she is in. This was her at her lowest point, when all hope was lost. She gets a chance to make it right in Zero but is crushed even harder by the cruel hand of fate. Fuck I just to hold her and tell her everything is going to be okay. She suffered more than nearly any man ever has.

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Yes we all know the character came into being, so what? You even said it yourself here
>She was written as a man
All they did was turn King arthur into attractive little so the game would be more appealing. People who play eroge do it for the girls so how was this exactly a risky decision when all he did was turn a guy into a pretty girl which is the main appeal of galge? And her dress attire was no more modest than Rin or other characters in the game not to mention you saying it was weird for a porn game makes it obvious you have no clue what you're talking about when you consider that Arcueid and Tsukihime came out way before it.

>Saber = Rei
>kuudere = dandere
No. The other two are both the same archetype but Rei and Saber are not the same archetypes. Saber is a "cool"dere while Rei is "dan"(silent)dere.

The change itself is what makes it interesting retard.

>daddy issues
>half human
>stoic
>14 years old
>sexually pure
>emotionally stunted
>soldier
>on the spectrum
Violet is actually a Rei clone through and through, dumb zoomer.

Rei is a kuudere. All of her clones are dandere, but the original had emotions.

>Shinji's GF
False. He had a boyfriend.

>And her dress attire was no more modest than Rin or other characters in the game
I wasn't comparing her modesty to the other girls from the same game with the same character designer that would be retarded. All the character designs from Fate are extremely modest compared to nearly all the other eroge of that era. It was a bold move. Why be so autistic about not giving them credit for creativity?

Yeah, but so is Saber.

Rei is not a kuudere you fucking ape. She's one of the most silent characters from the hisrory of anime. Dan comes from the word danmari meaning silence. Yuki is a dandere and she was famously called a reiclone for fucking years.

New game Rei vs Asuka

HINT: The answer is Rei

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changing the sex simply for the sake of baiting in more waifufags to make more money isn't interesting from a writing perspective.

I also said that Arcueid and Tsukihime way before so nothing was new about whatever you were trying to claim retard

I wasn't comparing Fate to Tsukihime either. Honestly Tsukihime was the biggest risk that TM has ever taken due to how much it sucked from Nasu and Takeuchi to work on it. TM just continued pushing the envelope with Fate, but it was all the same envelope.

Saber isn't a Rei clone.

If you look up the fucking definition of kuudere you'll find Rei Ayanami. Rei was quiet because she was cold and didn't want anything to do with people. Danderes, including Yuki, are silent because they are shy or autistic. Yuki looked and acted like Rei, but the reasons behind their behavior were completely different.

If it wasn't interesting why has it been emulated so many times even outside of TM? The nips have been toying with the genderbend trope constantly since Fate basically made it popular. In the end what you are saying is that YOU don't find it interesting, which is fine, but don't think your speaking for everyone. Its popular and that's because people find it interesting and fun.

Read this
I get that Tsukihime was the bigger risk, but that was just what old TM did back then. TM is unique, all of it. Even Fate and by extension Saber's design/character.

>ad populum
I mean it's interesting from a I want to fuck this hot girl way, but beyond that for actual characterization I wouldn't say so. Saber was still written as pretty much a male other than being occasionally embarrased cause I'm a sweaty tomboy trope. There was nothing interesting about her being a woman as opposed to a man. The character doesn't even scratch 1% of what made a character like Oscar interesting.

Saber, singlehandledly carried Fgo to a billion Dollar franchise

Ara ara. What a cute retard, you must like fateshi and other sorts of mass produced eroge.

Ok I did, but you trying to overplay the significant of saber's clothes not being as lewd as they could is still laughable

Trick question, the answer is Rei because she is better at being shit.

Everyone wants Eva's titles.
Everyone wants to revision history.
Everyone wants their favorite garbage to matter.

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>There was nothing interesting about her being a woman as opposed to a man.
You only think that because the genderbend is so crazy common now, but for its time it was basically unheard of. Outside of MAYBE a few examples it hadn't been done before in anime.

>but it was just done for waifubait
Sure, but nearly all anime is designed for waifubait and has been for like the last 25 years. Its codified in anime as a medium When a series invents a unique and successful way to "waifubait" it influences the very core of the medium, refining and enhancing it. Waifubait is the name of the anime game baby. Fate popularized a new way to draw in the viewer.

a billion dollars?
that's cute but evangelion pachinko alone made 6 billion dollars

Fate Go made more money than Legend of Zelda's Entire Franchise in less than 1/10 of the time

Actually Eva Pachinko made 11 Billions...

Lets try this.
How many copycats Rei were there in other series?
And how many Sabre clones not related to Type Moon?

>overplaying her modesty
People have been championing her modest design for nearly a decade. I've read articles talking about it and have seen it brought up in many videos from major/established publications. Hell even some feminists say much the same thing.

oh
that only makes the fatefag ever cuter then

what is it with ants thinking they're giants nowadays?

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>How many copycats Rei were there in other series?
Good luck finding somebody autistic enough to count this shit.

She got her own page but there is no list
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReiAyanamiExpy

Stop lying already, enough with the false equivalencies. Just because something wasn't AS popular doesn't mean it was completely unheard of or even uncommon. You're trying to make absurd claims like Saber set some kind of standard for gender bending to make it seem more significant than it is when that simply isn't true. Fucking Pretty Face was published in The WSJ in 2002.

Why bother giving a fuck about either when Misato and Kotomine exist as better waifus?

Read the thread buddy. We've mentioned a few here and there. Yes most are in TM but I don't see why that matters there is like a billion different writers/artists in TM. People want to create characters like Saber AND add to the expanding lore of the franchise. Fate allows for that level of creativity because we can just write whole new universes/timelines to it. You can't do that with Eva it doesn't allow for that nearly as much bullshit creativity.

>overplaying her modesty
That's not what I said half-wit. modesty != significance

The number of copycats generally indicates popularity and influence.

People like the modesty how is that not significant? What arbitrarily defined metric do you measure to be able to label something as being "significant"?

>Saber created the genderbend in anime
The absolute state of Fate children.

Rei>Asuka
Rin>Saber

Yes therefore Rei is more popular it makes sense. I said this here

She didn't set a standard she basically started the trope for anime. If you don't like the trope or find it noteworthy then whatever but wasn't given

>Pretty Face
What the fuck is that and why should anyone care?

>People like the modesty how is that not significant?
Can you not read or what? Arcueid already did it better with the modest skirts.

>She didn't set a standard she basically started the trope for anime.
No she didn't, Rose of Versailles did in the 70s

>some shitty mobile game

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This is the last time I want to have to link to this fucking comment. Read this: Why would I compare Tsukihime to Fate when they're from the same fucking people? This point of yours is just moot, by definition.

vs
>EVANGELION

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Rei and it isnt even close

I just skimmed the wiki article on this Oscar character. Is she a real historical figure? If not then I don't see why you would bring them up

So?? You're still trying to attribute credit for a trend to saber cause she makes your peepee hard when that trend was started by someone else before her. They're still two different characters even if made by the same people.

I'm done here FUCK HIRO for removing type in captcha

>not even half the earnings in 15 years already
Pathetic

Reimu!

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>captcha
Stop being poor and buy a pass.

>I just skimmed the wiki article on this Oscar character.
Seriously? And yet you still tried to act like you knew what you were talking about. It's like getting cs lecture from a "gamer"

I never said Saber started the modesty trend what are you smoking?

Personality > no personality

WERE THEY A REAL PERSON YOU STUPID NIGGER?

Ruri

Queen of doujin!

Truthpilled

>compared to nearly all the other eroge of that era. It was a bold move. Why be so autistic about not giving them credit for creativity?
That's what you were clearly implying by saying it was a "bold move" (as if it was something that hasn't been done before) and "giving them credit for creativity" (as if that's where it came from) Why are you trying to back out now? Or are you that much of a half-wit you have no awareness of what you're typing

You do know you could look this up in 2 secs on google right?

Also wait don't tell me you actually think King Arthur was an actual person. Wow I"m arguing with complete morons

All of TM was a bold move, I'm not backing out of anything. Half your comments are non-arguments now. Something being "bold" isn't the same thing as it "starting a trend".

King Arthur was likely based on two different actual people he was more real than whoever the fuck this Oscar is. I'm finding no mention of an actual person by this name.

Dumb tertiary Evafag.

Hey fateturds
Go back to /vg/

>Something being "bold" isn't the same thing as it "starting a trend".
Except you also said "giving them credit for creativity" as if that was starting point. TM is one company but Arcueid and Saber are still two SEPARATE characters and one of them came way before the other.
>King Arthur was likely based on two different actual people
Who knows even Monmouth's peers accused him of making shit up. There's no concrete evidence for it and saber is so far removed from any actual re ality it doesn't matter.

Saber canonically took Shirous dick to the cunt, the mouth and probably the ass too. Enjoy your "waifu" faggots

Fuck off back to your cancerous Eva threads, where you all belong.

Oscar fe els more like a real person than saber

I can't believe purityfags still exist here

>Be OP
>Gather the two most retarded fanbases on Yea Forums
>Set them against each other and watch

It really shows that Evafags haven't even bothered to read the VNs. Mission accomplished I guess.

She is King

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Nice projection