Why is low IQ such a common trait among shonen protagonists?
Why is low IQ such a common trait among shonen protagonists?
because high IQ people aren't relatable to most shounen watchers
It's realistic, low IQ is a common trait among humans in general.
How are people supposed to self insert into big brain protagonists?
helps the viewing audience relate more
Low IQ character means you can explain the in-universe stuff to the audience but make it seem natural because you're explaining them to the MC at the same time. And that means world building is easy because it doesn't have to be natural, the same reason why isekai are so popular
because they are copying DBZ
Goku hit his head & is a bit retarded, Luffy & Naruto have no excuse
low iq = simple, honest, pure (hero traits)
high iq = calculating, arrogant, deceptive (villain traits)
>low iq = simple, arrogant, deceptive
>high iq = calculating, honest, pure
fixed
Not all of them are idiots.
yeah, some of them are utter morons
Imagine if the MCs had high IQ
>Goku
Would never live in the wilderness and not engage in some journey with Bulma
>Yusuke
Wouldnt be a juvenile delinquent
>Deku
Actually I think he already has a above average IQ
>Luffy
Would be a pirate but in a more Doflamingo fashion rather than hurr durr adventure
>Asta
Would commit suicide
>Meliodas
Would not choose angel pussy over his species
>Aladdin
Would ally with Reim or Kou to live a life of luxury while being their human weapon
>Natsu
Would never join Fairy Tail
>Ichigo
Would probably ignore shinigami stuff and stay in the real world
You weren't top of your class in everything?
have sex
If all of that happen, who knows what could have occurred in those stories, probably bad results.
>Ichigo
He would have chosen Rukia
Impulsive people are proactive people. They make things happen. No one wants to read a battle manga about a guy that avoids confrontation.
Actually I think normal IQ Goku would be an evil saiyan cunt like pops and big brother.
>Would be a pirate but in a more Doflamingo fashion rather than hurr durr adventure
One of the early Romance Dawn oneshots had two types of pirates, "Morganeers", who prey on innocents and pillage and rape and all that shit, and "Peacemains", who prey on Morganeers and just like adventure. Even though the terms didn't make it into actual One Piece, the sentiment still remains. The Straw Hat Pirates are Peacemains.
>Would be a pirate but in a more Doflamingo fashion rather than hurr durr adventure
>implying any Yonko cares about hurr durr adventure
Shanks is a criminal boss like all other Yonko hes a Doflamingo type pirates on steroids.
It's not mutually exclusive.
Isnt Ichigo already average IQ?
I distinctly remember him being at the top of the class.
I just hate it when shounen protagonists get flanderized as mentally retarded instead of just not being intelligent. Goku is the worst example of this. I mean it takes some intelligence to live on your own and survive. Just because Goku was ignorant of the modern world doesn't mean he was literally mentally retarded.
Based
Goku has brain damage user. I believe Bardock's crew are the average IQ of saiyans.
Not the best(that was Ishida), but, like, the third of fifth one.
>that wonderful time when Blackbeard was Luffy's ultimate rival and not a piece of shit villain
Oh shit forgot Naruto if he had higher IQ he would just grow up to be an elite ninja rather than a muh hokage retard.
>Naruto
He wasnt retarded just hotheaded, unlike most protags he matured and in the end became a responsable adult and family man.
Battle shonen MCs are dumb, non battle shonen MCs like the MC of Hikaru no go are smart as fuck.
Goku was a hick with a heart of gold in a world full of self-obsessed assholes. When everyone else wanted to cut and run when others were in trouble, Goku was the only one that jumped in to help.
That we've gotten to the point where Goku is considered to be exceptionally selfish is fucking mind blowing to me.
Enter CHADren.
The Hokage is often celebrated as the strongest ninja in the village, and bears the most responsibility. What is the issue?
Is Yoh Asakura stupid?
It's common among all protagonists throughout media. The protag is usually a little scatterbrained, a lot uninformed, so that other characters can exposit to them the setting and story.
The IQ chads like the Nara clan dont want the position so its clearly for brainlets.
Serious answer: for a writer, it's much easier to make characters struggle against their own stupidity than it is to write an interesting conflict with a proper antagonist.
It's hard to write a smart character.
It's really easy to write unga bunga fights but unga bunga fights require idiots to justify the lack of strategy
They do make him look like a retard sometimes even beyond his school laziness
And Shikamaru has been aggressive and inciting national incidents lately, as well as continuing the shadow work Danzo perpetuated that everyone else hated and brought so much misfortune, worsening relations between the five villages. For all his supposed intelligence, Shikamaru's an idiot.
He is dumb he has trouble understanding chakra when Kakashi explains it to him while Sasuke got in seconds, and Sausage is only average IQ.
but he still is?
Yeah but other times he's pretty intelligent too
It's a trend that's just about to change.
Ideals are for dumbasses, Shikamaru lives in the real world and knows only pragmatism is the solution.
>Sausage is only average IQ
Isn't he supposed to be a genius only touch dumber than his brother?
Genius in Naruto means you are really fucking good at ninja shit without training not actual genius.
>ichigo
yeah but ichigo has a messiah complex
During the written exam he doesn't understand any of the questions while Sakura (and Hinata too even) do
Now I remember that too. Yeah, probably not.
And "pragmatism" includes attempting to kill the other kages via shadow strangling, in front of your leader himself? Do you remember who else tried to kill all the kages in a stupid rage-fueled bender?
You sound like the kind of person Naruto would've purged, or Sasuke killed.
>He wasnt retarded just hotheaded
He went through ninja school and didn't even what chakra was.
>And "pragmatism" includes attempting to kill the other kages via shadow strangling, in front of your leader himself?
If it wasn't discussed with the said leader, it's really dumb.
target audience
The questions seemed to just be trivia not anything mathematical that requires critical thinking so its not really a true test of intelligence just memory.
The written exam wasn't meant to be solvable, Sakura just could because she's a nut who could read it. The point was to cheat by copying answers off the obvious planted "students" who DID know the answers in such a way as to not be clinically retarded. Sasuke could copy hand movements with the Sharingan, Hinata see from far away with the Byakugan. Naruto by then had no stealth techniques and so couldn't do anything but guess.
Sasuke doesnt give a shit about anything, he just wanted to rule the world now that Madara was gone but gave up after Naruto and him fought.
The target audience has to self-insert somehow.
That's wrong
It wasn't discussed with said leader. He did it of his own volition, because it's his opinion that the other kages aren't to be trusted and the alliance broken down. Not Naruto's, or anyone else's. Shikamaru was incredibly out of line and he should be relieved of duty, if not court-marshaled.
The point was Sasuke isn't exactly a genius if he cant understand the questions and Sakura can
As for Hinata she might have used the Byakugan to cheat but maybe not
with me ;)
> Naruto by then had no stealth techniques
Kage Busin is exactly that, but Naruto is dumb.
Sorry, I yet to start Boruto. Yes, that's retarded.
There's like two protags with clearly low intelligence so it's clearly not as common as you think, also hounen manga is meant for kids young teens, do you think kids and teens are smart? seriously though, for comedic purpose.
>write an interesting conflict with a proper antagonist
>muh le edgy pesudo inellectual shitfest with le tragic villain who dindu nuffin
Pic related
>used Byakugan to cheat
She was such a bad girl in her youth
Getting punched repeatedly.
Kage Bunshin appear in a puff of smoke, there's no way to create one during the test without being fucking obvious. And even if he had prepared them in advance, there's no way for them to deliver the info to Naruto taking the test. Or to acquire it in the first place.
>there's no way to create one during the test without being fucking obvious
You can go to toilet. If I remember correctly, Kankuro used that excuse.
Kage Bunshin is not a stealth technique, it is a recon technique. If Naruto made a clone there he'd be called out instantly.
They make a ninja accompany people to the toilet and I think even tie their hands
Good goy
>. And even if he had prepared them in advance, there's no way for them to deliver the info to Naruto taking the test
The memory of KB is automatically transferred after the KB is released. He could've used a mirror which was prepared by somebody else, for example.
>recon technique
Exactly. And the part of the point of this test was to determine how well can they do spy work.
I can't remember that, but then it's too bad. The point is, he didn't even try. I really doubt that the security was really strict since the whole point of the test was to cheat, but do it smart.
There probably was some kind of loophole.
Goku isn't low iq, he just doesn't prioritize things like we do. He's a fucking Saiyan, he wants to fight. This is evident in all he does. It's how he provides such a great training regiment for Gohan. Just because he can't do math doesn't mean he's low iq. You're a fucking idiot if you think IQ is measured in the ability to simply solve equations and patterns.
>stupid people can’t tell the difference between smart people and wizards.
Huh, never thought of it that way, but that explains quite a bit. It also goes along with the idea that a sufficiently advanced science will look like magic to the non advanced.
Naruto didn't try because he didn't figure out the point was to cheat, he almost cheated thanks to Hinata but he pussied out when he thought he got caught
>Naruto didn't try because he didn't figure out the point was to cheat
My point exactly.
Goku is established to be a country bumpkin with a basic education provided by him by Master Roshi and God.
Naruto has the excuse of being neglected emotionally as a child till Iruka reached out to him.
Yusuke was a delinquent who drinks, smokes, and cuts class to start fights.
Ichigo, Uryuu, and Orihime got good grades in class.
if ape can do so can man
I mean, 50% of the population has below-average intelligence
Modern Adaptations tend to forget that Chi Chi is just as ignorant as Goku about the world. It's more noticeable in the Japanese Version where she speaks with a hick accent and her motive for making Gohan a scholar is to make him look respectable.