>”you want relief?”
>”you want peace, dont you?
>”you want to be one with me dont you?”
Mommy Rei actually won, Shinji “escaping” is just the dream she put him in.
Goddess Rei would never allow him to deny heaven to everyone else.
The Rebuilds are just shinjis dreams.
In short
fuck reality
the point of life is to reach the afterlife and exist happily forver
Even in my dreams I reject others. As long as people like me exist, instrumentality will never happen.
no people like you get quarantined in your own corner of instrumentality like shinji, while the rest of us get to be one.
lmao, you think the rebuilds are anything other than shinji’s imagination disguised as a reality
shinji is written unrealistically anyway, in reality a loser like him would be begging for rei to turn him into tang
Anno just used him as his nihilist self insert to write his no fun allowed script.
Rei, shut the fuck up and cope with the fact that Shinji picked Asuka over you.
just let mommy look after you
whats wrong with that?
if Rei cared about that, she wouldent have saved Asukas soul.
also no one cares about shinji getting with anyone, being one and merging is the important matter here.
Shinji doesent deserve waifus
merge with my anus
you dont have an anus user
So much cope. Go outside you autists, please, I love you and want you to make it anons. Lift, eat well, start gardening and try to be genuine with others. We can all do it.
the point of life is to die
then why haven't you killed yourself yet?
because that requires pain, i want to run away from pain
the goal of all life is death
interesting theory ngl
You've posted this stupid mommy Rei head canon before.
There are a ton of painless ways to die. Inhaling carbon monoxide would be far more pleasant than dying from natural causes
yes i have user.
i wish Rei was my mommy
maybe one day
I just watched NGE and now I feel even more depressed than before. It was a huge mistake.
Gib Rei gf.
This level of headcanon faggotry can only come from Asukafags.
NGE is wierd.
The message is "don't be depressed, go talk to people"
But instead constantly showcases that the universe will fuck you over if you try and never actually shows a positive resolution to human relationships.
Yeah annon u get it
Anyone who knows basic philosophy and have readed some Plato Aristotle Schopenhauer or some Nietzche stuff would agree with this
Life is suffer because we, as matter, are imperfect beings that naturally seek to complement ourselfs with other people. Human nature forces us to relate to others but relationships are always suffering for us because (our imperfection as material bodies/entities) we are incapable of knowing and transmitting what we really are to other people. The diversity of thoughts, points of vision and decisions due to the freedom that individuality entails makes our relationships painful and makes life an eternally sacrifice. That is why Kaworu delights with human nature and understands how we are all so fragile and live in a world full of sadness where happiness is not attainable in its entirety. The only eternal thing in life is suffering and the fear of living alone.
This dependence on love and affection that man has by nature and that seeks in life in society was what led SEEL and NERV to seek this plan to UNITE all the humanity in a single body, in total synchrony and harmony with each other. In this way nobody will feel empty and no one will need anyone because we all would be a ONE complemented at the expense of leaving behind our individuality, our ego and our freedom. This void in our hearts that is spoken of in Evangelion would be finally filled if it had not been for the fag Shinji who misunderstood the whole plot.
The message is that it's hard, but that the alternative is not to exist.
For death to be meaningful, one must actually live beforehand.
If one has not truly lived, can one say that one has truly died?
Only the individual can decide whether it truly lived or not. This is not something that others can decide.
>just sit in the tang world pounding your sandcastle with your literal doll friends while errybody else is having wicked instrumentality sex
I would kill Lilith too.
don't post that garbage here retarded Yea Forumsermin
t: a fag who dont know about life
>tfw no IRL woman will ever come close to being as kind-hearted and virtuous as Rei
>Even if she did you'll never deserve her
Maybe death isn't so bad after all.
nice pussi
also if u are into waifus u didnt get the message of ANNO in End of Evangelion literally Evangelion hates u if u want a 2d girl instead a real one
yeah itrs true that 2d >>> 3d cuz real girls are imperfect but you are just escaping from reality
Idk I just feel Im out of time and that I should have watched it when I was the same age as Shinji. I feel extremly uncomfortable and ashamed that even though Im 23 I still can relate to him and his feelings and emotional issues far too well. I feel its too late to connect with others because if you are in your twenties noone can be truly interested in what others are, only in what others have. And of course noone has any time to waste on an emotionally crippled manchild.
If you didn't get that Anno is a complete hack after watching the Rebuilds, I don't know what to tell you. His characters are fundamentally imperfect, that's why they resonate with so many viewers. To claim he doesn't understand why people love them "when they are so sick and twisted" just goes to show he doesn't even get his own creation.
Maybe he can redeem himself and shit on all Marifags in 4.0, but that ain't happening.
Also I feel bad because I found it beatiful and I have noone irl to share the experience and my feelings about it with
so what's the deal with the penguin
I'm 25, feel like I relate a lot to Asuka's issues with connection with others.
TANG'D
I think the reason why Evangeleon hit me so hard is because it was an impressive interpretation of real and raw human emotions and relationships which ultimately became relate-able to a world of mostly broken people.
he's the mastermind behind SEELE
And I think the reason why some people didn't like it is because they couldn't understand this and were expecting just giant robots fighting.
Mari dies on he way back to her home planet
Based and Tangpilled
kill yourself wojakposting subhuman trash
I don't understand the hedgehog dilemma. Does it only apply to certain people? I have friends I'm always cool with and other friends i constantly have problems with but we always make up.
Do you also bully other people in order to appear strong and confident when in reality you just long for affection?
Rei died for our sins
you're not autistic enough, sorry friend
The project has one major flaw to me, that being… I want to be alone, I crave utter loneliness since that is what brings peace to my mind and relief to my heart, makes me feel comfortable and safe.
>I crave utter loneliness
You wouldn't be here if that were the case.
It probably isn't the same for everyone, but it's just there to probably different degrees.
Like, how close are you with your friends?
Would you tell them about your fetishes and know they wouldn't reject you?
Do you think they'd still accept you if they knew every dark thought in your head? Have you ever thought about one of them sexually, how do you think they'd take it?
It's just the closer you get to someone, the likelihood of you getting burned by that increases. It might not happen, but the fact that it could keeps people from being completely open, and creates distance between people. The more you open yourself, the more you can be hurt, so to get very close to someone, means you put them in a position of power over you that can leave you absolutely emotionally devastated, and that's scary.
So some people don't even try, while others jut keep them at a 'safe' distance, while others make their hearts callous by letting it get hurt again and again until its numb.
I think it's just something that is, to varying degrees, but no one is ever entirely alone at infinite distance, nor is anyone entirely linked with someone with absolutely zero distance.
You don't get it do you?
Fucking normalfag.
Not that part, but I get the whole need to be the best and win as I get particularly upset at myself for failure, and feeling the need to prove I can live on my own even though I'm lonely.
I was considered the smart kid going through school, and it was something I came to strongly identify as being known by.
But going into college and the real world I suddenly felt like I was losing that identity, there is no longer anything special about what I am and what I do anymore. But people still call me the smart one, and I get scared that they'll see me as just some lazy fraud now. Asuka's trials at piloting resonate a lot with me there.
migrating
I don't mind a little pain, I prefer to be alive rather than dead.
>Rei is a clone of Chirico
VOTOMS episode 3
Mom i want to go back into the womb
[Cry of the Banshee]
I always identified as a smart kid, as soon as I got to college and realized I was surrounded by people smarter than I am who were also social, athletic, talented etc. I had a breakdown.
Not true. No matter who you are, you do not truly know what kind of man you have become, until you reach the very end. One realizes one's true nature at the moment of death. Don't you think that's what death is about?
how about shut the fuck up and put me back in the womb
Am I the only one that absolutely loves Rei II and sort of dislike Rei III?
I can't help but consider them separate characters.
I don't know why anyone would consider them separate characters when it completely ruins her beautiful character arc. To each their own.
You got it reversed.
Rei III was the superior version.
Kaworu is Rei's raging erection and you can't convince me otherwise
Rei II is a girl full of questions.
Rei III is the same girl, once she got the answers.
fuck you I embrace my suffering and seek to overcome it
School me Reifag-san.
To me, the point was that Rei II, Lilith's fragmented soul, was human and not angel like Kaworu due to her being incomplete.
When Rei got the other fragment of the soul, salvaged from Unit 0, she became someone else entirely.
Does Kaworu have his own dick still?
...did Kaworu have a dick normally?
>Lilith's fragmented soul
fan theory
You'll be back.
Why would she give two shit about Shinji is she became someone completely different?
this. mom knows best.
>she became someone else entirely.
She didn't become someone else.
She still had all experiences of Rei-II, but now she had some fuller emotions from the Unit-00 fragment such as anger and resentment toward Gendo (see Rei-III snapping Gendo's glasses as soon as she gets home - they were always Rei-II's prized keepsake and good luck charm), She also got access to her actual Lilith powers.
I think Shinji would've noticed if he didn't
There's a misconception that people who like strong women become Asukafags, and people who like weak women become Reifags.
I think this is the opposite. What I like the most in Rei is her calm, motherly strength. Asuka's childishness annoys me. Rei starts weak, but she gradually grows as a person over the course of the series. By the time EoE begins, she has become a fully realized individual, much more mature than Shinji or Asuka.
That's not quite true, you're here, interacting with others
But isn't part of Lilith's soul in Rei? The other part being in 00?
She still has memories but she started acting very different after dying.
Excellent point, didn't think about snapping the glasses being her Rei I emotions coming out. This actually really cleared it out to me, thanks.
It makes complete sense in all regards. It may be a fan theory, but it fits so perffectly that it is safe to consider it canon.
Rei-II wasn't exactly human. Her body needed frequent LCL immersions not to fall apart and she was sterile. She wondered why she was like that, and when she became Rei-III, she got her answers. She realized what she was, what humans had done to her. She could have just gone on a rampage against them, but in the end her love for Shinji led her to allow mankind to decide wether they want to live, or simply exist.
Evangelion does a better job at invoking sexual arousal in me than porn does these days. Those subtle Freudian themes just resonate with me at a deep level. How do I get more of it?
Good post
pray that mommy is real and 3rd impact is coming
i hate my irl birth mother. i wish Rei was my mom
>But isn't part of Lilith's soul in Rei?
Lilith soul's is Rei's soul.
>The other part being in 00?
Again, just a popular fan theory
>She still has memories but she started acting very different after dying.
Her behavior and mannerism doesn't really change at all, her alignment toward Shinji and against Gendo does, which is completely coherent with her previous experiences and the intense introspection she has been forced into by 1) being mind raped by an angel, and 2) dying a second time. The presence of one at the hospital and not the other could only solidify the assumptions she already started to develop as 'Rei II'. She came to realize that Gendo, who she viewed as the only person to care for her, was actually using her as a tool, whereas Shinji truly treated her like a human being. We caught glimpses of that realization starting to manifest itself near the end of her previous life, but all the shit that happened during and shortly after her last sortie can on its own explain her self-realization. There's no need to use the fragmented soul theory to fill in the holes, all the elements are already there to explain her arc. To me, it cheapens everything, she wouldn't have self-actualized on her own
I really like my irl mom, but I'm still a Reifag. Maybe because I'm an atheist. I don't believe in gods, but I wish there was one. I want Rei to be my goddess.
Amen. The world would be a much better place with a goddess like Rei around.
Good points. I'll keep all of this in mind next time I rewatch.
>her love for Shinji led her to allow mankind to decide wether they want to live, or simply exist.
So Toji indirectly helped save mankind?
Yes.
my mom acts like im not there. i dont have a single memory of love
its cold, distant hate.
same, I wish Rei was our goddess
we would be safe and happy forever in her arms
Thats's really sad to hear, user. I hope you are able leave all of those painful memories behind you in the future but for now, I'm glad you have Rei comfort you.
thanks user.
i hope that death is a dreamworld where we forget all the pain and finally become free, in my own version of instrumentality
that would make me happy
Looking for comfort in a 2D girl instead of carving your own way is only going to hurt you more in the future. Did you not get anything out of NGE or do you just reject Anno's message?
This is unironically why Anno hates some of you Reifags
This thread is bittersweet but also hopeful . The antithesis of these esoteric feelings is instrumental in making this little spot on 4chin abstractly beautiful . Like a painting with vividly contrasting color encompassing us all .
God(dess) Bless you anons. I hope this pic provides with so melancholic reminiscence with what an awe-inspiring mother Rei should had been.
Reality preachers just want to inflict misery on others.
Not all of us have gone as far as to delude ourselves into projecting our anime waifu fetishes into actual human beans. Much less marrying them like you have, Anno.
I don't know what is more disgusting, the hypocrisy or the sociopathic lack of any consideration for poor Moyoco.
I just want a Rei wife.
I want you to be happy and this isn't the route. I was in your position a few years back and it really isn't the way my man
I'm not a Reifag, I'm just glad user has something he keeps regarding his shitty relationship with his mom, which is not something that can simply be solved with a change of heart. There is nothing wrong about having a story that makes you feel better about your life.
This is don't agree with, you should not desire to only be happy in death, that's fucked.
I just don't want user to do nothing but watch anime and sleep 12 hours a day thinking about his mommy Rei because it's just going to keep spiraling him downward. Lifting and gardening changed my life around, I'd recommend any person in a negative or depressive state of mind to try both of them. It won't fix all your problems overnight, but you will learn to respect yourself, your body and the cultivation of life.
That is Genki Rei though, after some of that baloney pony riding.
reality has nothing to offer me.
i have failed many times to interact with it
now all that is left is me and my isolation that has already driven me insane.
i am waiting for death.
my posts are nothing more than a hopeful imagination of how things will be when i find the will to do it
when running from pain becomes worth the pain to finally escape it.
you underestimate how fucked i am in the head.
how many things are programmed into me since childhood and have driven me into this wall
Really great answer to my question. It makes a lot more sense now. I can elaborate and my friendships since you askd but ill do it when i get out from work if your still going to be here and thread isnt archived
Based
Never. I actually took responsibility for my own life and I'm happier then I've ever been. I was a 23 year old khhv living in my mother's basement at 280lbs and am now well past the half way mark on being the man I always wanted to be. Get fucked you self-loathing shitcel. I'm competing in a powerlifting meet in a few days just for fun and hoping to maybe get a podium placement.
You can and SHOULD do it too.
>when you remember your real mother hates you
have you experienced true isolation
i live 24/7 on my own. as a neet, but money is no object
no one in this house but me. no one else but me.
and you ask me why i want instrumentality. i am rotting in my so called individualism
>reifags are sick people
color me surprised
Get 2 cats or a dog.
>asukafags are soulless cunts that try to destroy ANOTHER eva thread
color me surprised
she hates me user
i already neglect and starve myself. an animal would only suffer with me.
>reifags cope hard when they get called out
not even that user but LMAO
You need to love yourself before Rei can accept you.
so many Yaldabaoth worshippers here, Instrumentality is not the real solution.
characters of Evangelion are basically all afraid of the struggles in their lives and the cause is the Demiurge, so they all want to become the Demiurge to escape this but not realize they are actuallty doing the same thing than Yaldabaoth.
Shinji understood the true gnosis and received the congratulations for it, he will lives his life in the harder world of Yaldabaoth, confront the struggles and will break the cycle of reincarnation after death, and meet again Rei and Kaworu on the pleroma, the fullness with the true god above Yaldabaoth's unperfect and chaotic universe.
hell, same
i can do that if my physical body is gone.
I live in my own studio apartment completely by myself. I'm an 8 hour drive away from home where my family and friends are so I can't see them unless I drive home for the weekend cause work. The people I work with are complete normies who I try to avoid if at all possible.
I started out 1.5 years ago with $20 to my name. I'm now putting away $2.5k a month into savings while still having enough to pay for my necessities and some fun shit like guns and my BJJ lessons. Being physical and taking the first step over the chasm to improve your life is what you NEED to do user. Do you have any physical impairments and are you generally 'smart'? If so I highly suggest joining the Air Force and getting a job in Comm.
It took me about 2-3 years of living in my mom's basement after dropping out of college because of depression (family deaths, social isolation, parents divorced, father tries to kill himself, etc). I'm not going to pretend I have it worse than you because I probably don't, but if I learned anything it's that you CAN change your life around and actually be content. Being content is the goal because happiness is fleeting.
The first step towards getting your life in check is being physically healthy. Are you overweight? Start counting calories and running. Then start lifting weights, preferably do a good beginners program such as Starting Strength or Greyskull LP. Try out gardening as a hobby. If you REALLY want to rip off the band-aid, I would join a BJJ class because you will learn to completely drop your ego, be more comfortable in your own body and abilities and make good friends along the way who are also in search of that goal .
Good luck user, you have it in you. The only person that can turn your life around is YOU. Feeling bad for yourself won't change anything. You need to learn to respect yourself through action and physical activity. You can't think yourself out of depression. I believe in you.
Agreed, we are disgusting beings and don’t deserve her
Less death drive, more pleasure principle.
You know in this anime they have the power of quantifying souls, taking it and putting it inside clones of humans or giant ayy lmao beings.
so I don't see anything against the possibilities of dividing souls in various parts, it actually could explains the autism of Rei II and the regular chimpout of Eva 00.
Chirico busted a nut so hard it transcended space-time and landed on yui, Gendo then spliced in the salvaged genetic samples from both creating rei
physically i would say im underweight, i never eat out of anxiety to go out or interact
death will free me
Very inspirational user, I'm not that other guy but what the fuck is BJJ supposed to be short for?
Rei III is just as autistic.
Again, I'll reiterate that I -personally- find that this theory dumbs down the beauty the way I personally perceive her arc, which is more important to me than filling plot holes (especially when those can as easily be explained with other theories). And again, to each their own. If you find the divided soul theory more satisfying, go with it. That's the great thing about shows with questions left unanswered, we can all get something different out of it that speaks to you on a more personal level.
happiness is made not given, you are the master of your own fate man the fuck up and take it or die the weak fuck you claim to be there is always a choice
was a neet for 6 months contemplating suicide, only you can lift yourself out that hole others can only help.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
Brazilian Jiu Jutsu. It's a grappling martial art. Unironically go sign up tomorrow and do it. I guarantee your life will change. If you don't have money beg your mom or something, no joke.
Read the sticky on /fit/ and start doing Starting Strength. Eat like 500 calories over your maintenance and gain a pound a week about. Look up how to garden and start it. Try martial arts too. You don't need to do it all in one go but introduce these elements gradually. You WILL make friends along the way but right now that's not important. The important part is learning to respect yourself through hobbies and action/physical activity.
I'm about to squat 495 tomorrow for my red headed wayfu. God speed user, I know you can do it.
>Uncommunicative alien-god who invades the privacy of your mind and always loves you unconditionally no matter what
>Rei III is just as autistic.
really? she seems pretty lucid actually.
your right. i must summon the will to end my wretched life. all i need is a knife
>posting non directors cut version
Yikes
Cute siblings
Man you guys are hopeless.
>reifags are hopeless
fixed
Wouldn’t eternal bliss get pretty boring and stale real fast anyways? Say what you will about how sadness and anger can cause pain but they are also what makes us human. Why get rid of it?
Remember when her character development ground to halt after this lmao
no its bliss, so you dont get bored by definition
Rei is not for lewding.
You'll never get to watch anime again
so? so long as im happy i dont care
id let Rei regress my mind to braindead egodeath, so long as it felt like bliss
so long as its comfort, so long as its love
When everything is bliss, then nothing is.
Why are Asukafags so cancerous
Here's my question
Im a brainlet if I don't like Asuka or Rei but I absolutely love Mary?
I watched Eva and EoE years ago when I was just a teenager and neither Asuka or Rei clicked with me.
But Mary? She REALLY does things to me, she's hot, I like her punchlines, her smugness and her overall style.
She gets shit done, is confident and is chill.
I also liked Misato a lot, but I think I like Mary even more.
Everyone on Yea Forums seems to be evenly split about liking Rei or Asuka, and nobody seems to give a shit about her, I feel like an outsider on that regard.
that based on flawed human experience
thats only cause you have a mortal body with dopamine and serotonin receptors that get destroyed and decay
with instrumentality, you will have a high that overwhelms you and floods your brain in eternal, absolute ecstasy
>every person I know who us actively trying to improve themselves is an Asukafag
>every fat NEET I know is a Reifag
>this entire thread is nothing but Reifags ignoring the message of NGE and wallowing in self pity looking towards Rei as an escape
Guys I think I'm onto something...
There's nothing lewd about making sweet love
You don't understand. Death is a return to nothingness, it's a return to ultimate tranquility, a return to not having to worry about anything ever again.
Hey, come on~
No I actually like Mari quite a bit too. I’m actually excited to see that she has a larger role in the next movie.
There's no tranquility in nonexistence
There's nothing in nonexistence
There's less than nothing because in order to have nothing you have to have something
You're not a real Reifag until you build a shrine to her.
I just don't like the way she looks, her hairstyle and glasses are offputting to me. I like her smug attitude and quips though. I'm a sucker for feisty women which is why I like Asuka so much I think
It helps that I really like Unit 08s design a lot. One of the best looking Eva yet.
Nonexistence is tranquility, it's freedom from all organic burdens. It is you back in the womb, with only those around you to acknowledge your peaceful state of nothingness.
You can't have a state of anything if you don't exist
thank you for the good thread reibros
There are none around you to acknowledge your state because there is nothing. You don't exist. You'll never be happy or sad again.
This but unironically
Nobody know what happens after death.
It's probably a transcendance and not some shitty atheistic void fantasy.
Why do Reifags purposefully ignore the message in Evangelion? Is this why Anno hates them?
You have a state because those left behind give you one. But of course you won't be there to acknowledge it or worry about what others are trying to place on your shoulders.
>You'll never be happy or sad again.
And that my friend, is bliss.
Understanding =/= accepting.
>never being able to feel anything and not existing is bliss
Legitimately disgusting. Overcoming your fears, insecurities and troubles to become the best you possible physically, mentally and spiritually is the true path. You might as well just kill yourself if you value a return to nothingness this much. The pain and suffering we go through to positively change our lives is worth seeing what we are truly capable of. Live your life as the man you always wanted to be.
It's people like you that ruin my perception of Rei as a character since you completely pervert her relationship compared to the themes of the story.
It's so bad bros, I can't do it. No matter how hard I try I can't finish the last two episodes. It was fun while it lasted but my god did this turn into straight up trash quickly.
Post pics of your shrine, faggot
You believe in such things because you have the need to justify your struggles and your sufferings. You were forced here either by biology and a twisted unwritten equation or by a higher existence that prides itself in allowing pain. There is no secret joy behind the responses your nervous system has to negative stimuli.
What was it like before you realized you existed? Exactly. If you care so much about human connections then remember that although you still had no consciousness other humans already cared about "you". Mainly your mother.
Watch TTGL you fucking queer.
God I hate how every viewing of a show has less and less impact. Just finished my annual viewing and felt almost nothing. NGE is so precious to me, I wish it weren't like this.
excuse me but nothing is being perverted here
I watch it weekly
...
I want to give her a reason to live so badly ;_;
Watch End of Evangelion
The last two episodes of the normal show they ran out of budget and it got really bad. That's why we have End of Evangelion, which is the "real" ending
>20 seconds later: "I thought I had wished for that day to come, but now I am afraid."
She had a small taste of true human connection, she doesn't truly want it at that point.
Is there a Rei equivalent to this?
It'll feel so good to back in the womb.
Pleasure principle at work. Even the most suicidal human beings are often faced with their genetically coded response regarding death.
However, Rei still went ahead with it.
Rei is now a quantum goddess who transcends time and space
Would you drink filthy cave water if Rei asked you to?
Well, I suppose that reaching a higher state of being is also a way to not have to worry about organic burdens. But let's not forget that if her feelings for Shinji weren't also erased then she failed at finding nothingness.
I'd like to drink Rei's cave water if you know what I mean
bitch can't even hold water without having it glow
I'm just sad that you and the many others in this thread will never be able to experience the true contentness and joy that is obtained from improving every aspect of your person and forging bonds with others that, though imperfect, make you truly happy. Instead you wish to return to nothingness and give in to difficulty and pain. It's akin to a bird never leaving it's mothers nest. It's unnatural and perverted.
People that have improved themselves do not post on chans or other places where their so called improved identities can be hidden from others. And still, even rich and healthy people can wish for the eternal sleep.
Maybe she'll get over it after watching his whole life and interviewing him inside his brain about key events for just the one cycle. She might not rewatch Shinji.
What did she mean by this?
that she cared her dear shinji-kun felt alright.
Shinji reacts fucking strangely though
Well, yeah.
nvm, just realised yui says the same thing in his leliel fever dream
>a TTGL thread died for this
Objectively wrong. I post on here all the time despite continually improving. You can have one with the other. Just because I'm improving and have made a lot of progress does not means I'm still not kind of autistic.
I feel like my personality meshes best with my fellow autists on chans which is why some of my closest friends also browse here. And guess what, all of us are improving and becoming successful according to our own definition of the term.
>tfw no quiet and introverted but pushy gf
This guy gets it.
You're fooling yourself into believing you're similar while simultaneously using others to prop yourself up.
Cringe
>t. asuka nigger
There exists anons on Yea Forums that aren't complete soulless husks such as yourself. Just because the only board you browse is Yea Forums doesn't mean everybody on this website is like you. Some of the best advice I've gotten was on self-improvement generals on /fit/ or /adv/. You're deluding yourself into a perpetual cycle of negativity by associating relation with this website with perpetual stagnation or regression.
Taking multiple imperfect things and mashing them together doesn't make anything perfect though. The perfection grows more distant, the complements are few and far between. Social media proves it, it's fact. Putting people together makes the nasty parts of human nature grow worse while the good is drowned out. Anger and hate are the two most commonly transferred emotions on social media, and mob behavior is the default. Technology has shown anyone that's bothered to look that being together is an awful mess. Pick the few people you can stand, build you tribe, and manage the mess. That's all you can do
God I hate Mari
Mari I hate God
Left > Middle >>> Right
Asuka is going to win the Mari and Rei bowlin 3.0+1.0, without even wanting to.
I just watched the Rebuilds and I don't get why Mari even exists. She feels so tacked on. Do the Japs like her?
It only makes sense best girl wins
Why must everyone with a diverging worldview from yours be some sort of soulless thing. This sort of self defined prepotency is exactly why I said you were using others to prop yourself up.
You're still posting on a chan and you're still using buzzwords in an almost automated manner to show your frustration - and hypocrisy for that matter.
You 'eros' people are quite frankly boring.
Rei is for Rei
Anno said her purpose is to "destroy Eva"
She's supposed to be like if a normal super robot character wandered into the Eva universe
Also she blatantly knows more than she's letting on
>She's supposed to be like if a normal super robot character wandered into the Eva universe
So Anno's new idea of being pretentious is to be pedestrian.
This is her purpose.
Rei and Kaworu say they are the spark of hope as the Gnostic Divine Spark. Sophia's collection of the sparks back into herself is the Gnostic telos-kosmos.
SEELE is Masonic and Demiurgic as the builders in an esoteric rather than exoteric sense of creating the invisible temple.
Shinji's Gnosis is one of the Bodhisattva who returns to the world for the sake of others; but it is also Nietzsche's Eternal Return.
less marishit, more enlightened path
Whatever happens to you, I hope you'll find some form of genuine happiness and peace, user.
>Goddess Rei would never allow him to deny heaven to everyone else.
she absolutely would, that was the point. she chose to give the decision of what happened to humanity to shinji and shinji alone
You can try to build a good life and see if you change along the way. If you have already genuinely, and I mean GENUINELY, tried and it hasn't impacted your world view I'm fine with you believing what you believe.
The problem being most of the 'Thanatos' people in this thread are self-loathing losers who want an excuse to stagnant and not have to put in any effort. If you put in the effort and still want nothingness, fine. But most people itt have never left the confines of their basement and don't even know what's actually out there.
If you skip the Eros and go straight to Thanatos, you will never know what could've been if you tried since you skip life and go straight to nothingness. At least if you give Eros a chance you can take solace in the fact you gave it your best shot and then continue with your old worldview.
I was like most of these sad people for 90% of my life and I finally turned it around. I just want others to give it a chance too
Yes Shinji, that's a foot
Your sister has cute ones
Ah yes, the apples and the tomatoes
Look, Death might be the endgame for all life, but I want to grow until then so I can enjoy it while being the best I can be. That doesn't always work, but when it does it feels great. So great in fact that it makes the suffering and hardship worth it. Pain is a part of life, you cannot avoid, only accept it. And with that acceptance comes the ability to, even if only sometimes, find joy a d purpose. So I'll enjoy Eros, and when the time comes, I want to greet death like an old friend.
>tfw no gf
You need to stop projecting your shit on others. My life is fine financially etc but some people just see things differently.
People don't have to be like you and your view isn't the ultimate truth in the universe, deal with it.
Ainz-sama....
Fair enough
It's not about finances. It's about cultivation of the mind, body and soul through action as opposed to inaction
Freud is a hack.
Can someone tell me where the fuck Wunder came from?
What's its purpose, if one of the Adams is it's master did it crash land with the other Adams?
I wish I had a Rei 3 gf
Is there a way to artificially do Instrumentality? I want to merge with you guys
>I want to exist in a state that basically equates to a LITERAL SAFE SPACE
This was bascially my experience upon joining the Air Force for an Intelligence related position, minus the breakdown.
That Rei's hair looks exceptionally fluffy.
Where is that from again? The episode where Rei III is introduced?
damn I know that feeling I thought I was hot shit in highschool got my teeth kicked in college but I got through it somehow
>t. hack
>instrumentality will never happen
FUCK
why must it be like this
Fuck you
There's nothing wrong with avoiding pain
YOU WON'T GET ME YOU DEMON YOU WOOONT
I love you friends
Great taste. I don't perceive Rei to be submissive at all, she's just outwardly detached but has a lot of inner strength, while Asuka is the exact opposite in that in spite of projecting a confident exterior, she's scared and insecure.
I've been lifting for almost a year, it does nothing for me. I fucking hate it actually.
Anno's message is bullshit and I whole-heartedly reject it. The world is utter garbage, and after genuinely trying to be positive and improve my life only for my impressions to be confirmed, I have no doubt about it anymore.
"You can't be happy without suffering too", "it's hard but that's how it is", how do you live like this? It's like that comic strip about desert dwellers who start worshipping thirstiness. You're the one deluding yourself
Yeah, you really sound like a well-adjusted person who totally isn't full of resentment and insecurity.
>SHOULD
Nobody should do anything you fucking retard. You are not an authority on anything.
The message I always got out of Evangelion was that Shinji shouldn't have ever gotten in the robot.
His life would have been better.
Yeah man I can barely interact with human beings but let me join a BJJ class I'm sure that'll help
Because Rei is an ideal, and Asuka is a flawed human being. You only realizing this now outs you as kind of a retard, to be honest.
Anno is not some kind of spiritual guide, dumbass. His message is stupid.
>Live your life as the man you always wanted to be.
I never wanted to be anything, I never asked to be born. Since I'm too much of a coward to end myself, I just exist.
Just because you're correct doesn't you're right.
>Asuka is a flawed human being
>/adv/
Way to out yourself as a self-righteous deluded asshole. That board is probably the worst on Yea Forums, full of cunts who pretend to give advice while subtly putting others down. Disgusting
Yes. Posting a smug slut does not count as an argument.
>this thread
Jesus fucking Christ, Reifags.
Fuck off normalfag.
I actually like this thread as an Asukafag.
Stop being a party pooper to fun threads.
>those thighs
thique
you ""truly"" die when all your biological functions stop working fuck off with your flowery bullshit words
What's the matter user, you don't like talking about spiritual death?
Yeah I'm sure I'm deluding myself by actually enjoying my life, making friends, enjoying hobbies and working towards my goals. I was so much happier as a fat NEET loser who used video games and anime as an escape. Spot on friend, you're very wise.
I'm an Asukafag and all it has done to me is make me feel sad for the amount of self loathing from these Reifags. I see glimpses of my past self in all of them
If Rei fags are the defeatist types and Asuka fags the ones wo believe in self improvement then what are the Misato fags?
>yeah man suffering is so worth it because I get to superficially connect with other people and work towards meaningless goals to distract me from reality
Your life is another form of escapism, except you're being a self-righteous asshole about it.
>this /adv/-tier condescension
You people are genuinely insufferable
Holy cope. I'm experiencing reality and everything it has to offer, from the worst pains to happiest triumphs, not running away from it. You should try it one day.
Nice projection
What in my post indicated projection you buzzword spouting retard?
>I'm experiencing reality and everything it has to offer
>feels the need to justify his lifestyle on Yea Forums to feel good about himself instead of living his awesome life
Something doesn't add up here.
No triumphs are worth the worst pains. I won't try it because it's retarded. Fuck you
You won't try it because you are weak and soft
Adv is specifically for /sig/ which randomly appears on either /fit/ or /adv/ depending on whether the mods delete it off of /fit/ or not
What happened to preaching to anons because you empathized with them? Now it's just namecalling? Always the same shit with you faggots.
I might be weak and soft, but that's fine. I didn't ask to be here, so there's nothing wrong with me not wanting to confront reality. Nothing hypocritical in that.
You're the one that started mouthing off in your last post. I don't see calling you weak and soft as bad since it's true, you even admit it yourself. It's not an untenable situation, that's how I was most of my life also. Just know that hope exists and you always have time to turn your life around if you decide to change your thought process some day.
I obviously won't be able to change your worldview, but sleep on it. If you ever want to change, take care of your body first. Your mind will soon follow. I hope you don't regret your decision when you're old and decrepit.
>implying I'm not taking care of my body already
Whatever.
There's nothing in that situation that needs fixing. There are no instructions to life that stipulate that you must subject yourself to suffering. Nobody chose to be here, some wrongly ascribe meaning to pain, others choose to withdraw.
im at peace when i sleep
Now this makes a lot of sense
God speed user
Was that the message?
No, the message was "life inherently incorporates a certain amount of suffering, but it is preferable to go through that suffering than to withdraw from life"
But since every time Shinji took this message to heart, life relentlessly shat on him, one must wonder what the fuck Anno was thinking
There is nothing wrong with craving safety.
Why do you think every religion hates on suicide? Rich entrepreneurs such as Anno need waggies to toil in their shitty low paying jobs, simple as that.
Anno wasn't rich at the time, I think (and even now, internet sources point to his net worth being average, which strikes me as very bizarre considering Eva is worth tens of billions, but anyway)
I think he believes in that message. Which is amusing considering that the way it was executed in the story makes the exact opposite idea (privileging escapism over reality) seem much more attractive.
GNR was just trying to spread the greatness of VOTOMS episode 3, they couldn't handle it and turned into orange juice
Anno himself was brainwashed. Most people are. He probably felt little down about something, so sought a therapy and Japan has socialized healthcare so it serves the interest of the elite and rest is a history.
>some wrongly ascribe meaning to pain, others choose to withdraw.
Both are wrong. After decades of torment my eyes have been opened. The pain in itself is the meaning!
Do you have such sights to show me?
Perhaps. NGE and especially EoE are still great though, precisely because even though it beats you over the head with "anti-escapism", it also makes it so obvious that escaping from reality is not wrong at all. Just see the number of pro instrumentality/GNR posts ITT
Try growing up with brain dysfunction and emotional instability in troubled household. Worked for me, but might not do it for you as some poeple had similar conditions yet failed to see the truth.
It was just a shitty Hellraiser reference.
I don't like pain, user.
imagine waking up in instrumentality, and Rei is there, holding you like a baby as you drift off to sleep in her arms.
I think the problem with Rei is that they made her too pretty. If she was as skinnyfat, slouched, unkept and stinky like a poorly socialized clone with who knows how many medical issues and messed up soul realistically would be, nobody would waifu her.
>Rei will never gently stroke your hair as you lay your head on her bosom in the middle of a warm sea of LCL
>it will never be daijoubu
>”Dont cry user, Mommy’s here”
>”im never going to leave you”
>”everything is going to be ok now, your safe, mommy’s got you. shhhhhhh.”
>”Mommy’s here”
>user, do you want to become one with me?
>To be of one mind and body?
>It could be very pleasant.
>Relax and release your soul, user.
>Idk I just feel Im out of time and that I should have watched it when I was the same age as Shinji. I feel extremly uncomfortable and ashamed that even though Im 23 I still can relate to him and his feelings and emotional issues far too well. I feel its too late to connect with others because if you are in your twenties noone can be truly interested in what others are, only in what others have. And of course noone has any time to waste on an emotionally crippled manchild.
Submission (the novel where France becomes islamic socialist republic that got published the same week as the Charlie Hebdo attack) has a protag who is basically middleaged Shinji. Unlike Shinji, he eventually embraces Instru... I mean Islam.
yes
I want instrumentality to happen, why can't it happen? I'm tired of all this.
If we become one being, then the resulting creature that is the sum of us will be lonely. Still a net reuction of lonely beings in the universe so I am on with it.
mudshit books have nothing on EVA
Hes not a Shinji, hes a succesful university professor who fucks reguralry hot college bitches
it will happen.
No, because that entity would be perfect. Instrumentality is bliss, unconditional and absolute.
But how?
It was written by angry french edgelord, not muslim.
irrelevant discussion
because when we die we get our hearts deepest desire, if you want Rei to look after you forever in Instrumentality, she will
Yet he’s as miserable as Shinji.
>when we die we get our hearts deepest desire
But unfortunately, that's just a guess, there's no way to know.
Maybe there's just oblivion after death, and if you never experience bliss in this reality, you never will.
Maybe your life repeats, and you'll relive it over and over again.
Instrumentality needs to happen in this reality
Now i want Rei with the suit of VOTOMS
it will
I want to believe it will but nothing points towards it being attainable in the near future. We don't know shit about consciousness or even brain mapping, how could we merge together?
Maybe but in a completely different way. Hes just a bitter cynical asshole who doesnt give a fuck about anyone or anything unlike Shinji who actually wants to give and receive love but he doesnt have the courage to initiate contact.
So he's Gendo, i.e. the natural progression of Shinji. Those two archetypes are not different, one is the logical consequence of the other.
But Gendo had a gf he was in love with. He became emotionally numb after he lost her.
I suppose, but the result is the same. Notice how Gendo's last words in EoE is that he's not worthy of being loved and that he believed that interacting with Shinji would only hurt him.
>Because Rei is an ideal
>The poster child for depersonalization with severely undeveloped emotional skills
>ideal
The one after that. It's her reaction to seeing Kaworu.
Nice job having Evangelion's extremely straightforward and blunt themes fly completely over your head
Try breathing through the nose sometime
A drawfag drew it.
IDK, he had a bit of a thing going on with his last fuckbuddy, he could pronanly follow her to Israel if he really wanted, but he did not.
Well aren't you kind of a whiny bitch.
i want my mommy
How disgusting
Did they get in as well?
Rei is mommy.
Kaworu is daddy.
>Kaworu is daddy.
Absolutely.
did anyone screencap last nights explainon posts? i forgot and i need it
Asuka is wife
Defeatists don't dream about having a girl like Rei around.
You don't seem to understand a damn thing normalfag.
Teh Rei.
>mommy rei
Stop this meme, she's his half sister
I just want poka poka rei to come back fuck
Neuralink
Ok ok. Asuka is damaged beyond repair*
Fixed.
My dick os eternam for rei pussy
Based
Shut the fuck up asuka fag
shes not my half sister retard
Uhh
Since you asked:I just finished Evangelion,and it made me question my friendships. I thought I was close to some but it seems Im not, and I may think I should defriend the one friend I actually think I'm closest to and knows the most about me because of the drama she causes, the hedgehog dilemna sort of justifies it and I should keep this friendship.
The friend I feel I am closest to I have told many of my deepest secrets including many of the things I find sexually gratifying. Coincidentally right before I started evangelion (knew nothing about it before), I had begun to tell her the "dark thoughts" in my head and told her about a time we messed around when we were both drunk (she claimed she doesn't remember that incident but I did. I have no idea who initiated I just came to between her legs). So every couple of weeks we'll run into a conflict and they get worse each time, last time being right after I finished Evangelion. But thinking about the hedgehog dilemma, I can see that since we've been getting so close lately and we're both sharing our personal thoughts about insecurities, sexual desires; we've been getting into worse problems with each other, but we're fine now. I think im beginning to understand this because of evangelion, or maybe im still very confused.
On the other hand,I have friends I have no problems with,but they don't know my most personal and thoughts. So it seems There's a distance between me and them and they aren't "better" friends than the one I stated above because they really don't know anything personal about me and who knows if they would accept knowing personal things about how my closest friend did.
part 1
part 2
Back to my friend who I'm closest to: Is this the way it has to be? Continue for us to completely dump our most personal thoughts no matter how personal and perverse they may be, ad continue to get mad at each other, and then make up? Or is it possible for two people to know everything about each other, every dark thought, and have a friendship that has no problems, no drama? Do I accept this because the ohter option is loneliness?
Do your fucking job mods and ban this blogging cancer.
If I could go on about my closest friend, I am going to watch Evangelion with her, I asked her if she would like to. It's going to be awkward to watch the beginning of EoE for me though because on one our very drunk nights in my car, I masturbated to her when she was passed out next to me( reminder I knew nothing of Evangelion when that happened). I wonder how she will react when I tell her this.
Being successful disables empathy. He’s the top dog in his peer group. Go figure.
I want her to fucking sit on my face
>multiple occassions sexually taken advantage of my friend when she was drunk
>told her about this and there's weird tension between us
>asks Yea Forums what the cause of this could be
Gee, I wonder what it could be
>hedgehog’s dillema
The hedgehog can tilt her (his if gay) quills to allow mating. The quills are just hair and they have the same muscles that bristle regular hair.
t. hedgehog expert
Maybe i wasn't clear enough. When we messed around drunk, I came to us already mssing around. That was not my intention going to her house and I have no diea who started it. I blacked out again and have no idea what happened at the end. She claims she doesn't remember hte incident but I think she does and she might know more than me about what exactly happened that night. I could had been taken advantage of. If to be close is to tell everything that's in your thoughts, hten we must talk about this. the EoE intro like incident she doesn't know about. The tension is mostly about her and her anger management; something entirely different. Back to what I was saying, Evangelion is trying to tell me something here and watching the show helped me understand a little more.
>on one our very drunk nights in my car, I masturbated to her when she was passed out next to me( reminder I knew nothing of Evangelion when that happened). I wonder how she will react when I tell her this.
Hahaha oh wow
I think everyone has perverted, lewd secrets like this. Though to get closer to someone means to tell them everything, some things may be better off not saying lolol
>perverted, lewd secrets like this
I don't think you realise how few human connections some of us have that we wouldn't jeopardise them with something as stupid as wanting to rub one to out
>using evangelion to try and fix friendships
Relating to Eva should be enough of a give away that you're not cut out for having friends
So will Asuka accept shinji after what he did?
Humanity would be fucked from the first episode if he didn't so...
user, you sound like me except I have a shit job. Workplace is toxic and the only interaction I have with people outside of it is BJJ really. I got my brown belt not too long ago, so that's something I guess.
I hope I can find better work and start saving away.
Of course she's not going to. Not only did he ejactulate over her comatose body, his inaction caused her to die in the first place.
The point of that final scene is to show even when there's no chance of human connection, you should always try to reach out to others, because its infinitely better than being alone
She's not lol
I think the problem with Asuka is that they made her too pretty. If she was as skinnyfat, slouched, unkept and stinky like a poorly socialized german girl with who knows how many medical issues and messed up soul realistically would be, nobody would waifu her.
lol just asuka losers who want asuka for themselves lolol
Thique
Asuka would never forgive that shinji faggot after what he did lol
If you like how she affects the story and themes of evangelion, then yes you're a brainlet. She distracts from the narrative and in 2 films + 10 minutes of the fourth movie the only thing of value she's provided is aesthetically fun action scenes and fan-service
If you're just speaking in terms of their character appealing to you in general, then no you're fine. There are plenty of people who like Rei and Asuka for reasons that conflict with their intent in the story. There's nothing wrong with enjoying a character on their own merits.
Why do evangelion threads always end up in a rei vs asuka shitstorm
Oops, didn't meant to reply lol
>implying eva isn't just one massive allegory for impregnation and reproduction
Because humanity in general is toxic and hateful.
Miss the more innocent topics that were just "My waifu is great", "No my waifu is great!"
Now its "Your waifu is shit, and you are fundinentally wrong for liking her" "Your waifu is more shit, here is my rant why"
There is zero difference between these things
When someone tells you their favorite TV show and asks what yours is, do you open up with telling them you hate their show and its fans?
yes
Saying "no, my waifu is great" inherently implies "your waifu isn't great" because you see that's what the word "no" means
Not sure if this is relevant to the thread but I taught myself piano because of Kaworu
Big difference between prefering something else compared to hating something.
But that's not what you originally said
Those are some very mobile goalposts
How is it different?
...
I know you know that isn't the meaning in context.
Kiss already.
>his if gay
T-there are no gay hedgehogs, anta baka!
>financial ability to do anything
>choose to fucking live as a hikki
Bro, you most likely have a passport. USE IT. Travel the fucking globe and see how people are living on the other side of the world. Fund someone's research so they can help improve society. Be a patron of someone's art. Whatever it is you do, just do something.
Calm the fuck down, Tiffany.
>read 150000 word gay Kawoshin fanfic with Asuka in the background sulking that Shinji isn't hers
>slowly start feeling bad for her and want her to win
N-no. This can't be happening to me. It just can't. She's a bitch who ruines it for herself by being an abrasive asshole to Shinji. Kaworu is perfect for Shinji. S-she shouldn't be getting my sympathy just because she's a broken human being. AAAAARRRRRRGHHHHHHHH-
It should end with Kaworu and Asuka together for maximum kino
shit taste
kaworu is EXCLUSIVELY for lewding Shinji
No, the #1 and #2 most popular characters belong together.
Shinji is old and busted.
Eww. Both of them are only for Shinji. The one that loses the Shinjibowl can get together with Rei for all I care.
Kaworu x asuka
Rei x shinji
Based
This is peak Asukashitter delusion.
Why do you hate Kaworu and Asuka so much that you would have them suffer with Shinji?
They deserve better.
The true end is a threesome between Asuka, Shinji, and Rei.
I read a fic where it ended with all 3 together.
Except the actual story mainly focused on Asuka x Kaworu and it felt like both of them just took complete pity on Shinji.
And Rei was gei.
Sauce me up fampai
Shinji cock and ball torture
Please do not gei the Rei.
This
How many Reis could a gei Rei gei if a gei Rei could gei Reis?
god I want to be with rei
in a way though, I already am.
Two broken people embracing each other and their flaws. I don't know why, but it fascinates me. And it's driving me towards AsukaxShinji. It's highly irrational. Anno is truly a master.
>Two broken people embracing each other and their flaws.
So then you want KaworuxAsuka
Asuka always laughed at Shinji's flaws, Kaworu was the only one in the series who was capable of loving someone for their flaws.
Only Kaworu could accept the true Asuka and help her to become better and learn to love herself.
This, OT3 is the golden path.
It is also the only true way to peace from the waifu war.
Purest form of love
We will all join her in the end brother.
These two just might be the cutest brother-sister pair in anime
Big smelly Asukafags are not welcome.
>the death of the individual is heaven
>also a reifag
i knew communism and autism were connected
lmao what a fucking grade school understanding of communism
MOMMY
Here you go
fanfiction.net
I didn't really like it to be honest, but I am a dope at not knowing when to stop reading something.
>And it's driving me towards AsukaxShinji. It's highly irrational.
There's nothing irrational about it. They express themselves differently, but they both went through a lot of similar experiences.
Them showing up together in the same place in the end of EoE makes perfect sense.
Thanks bro
Holy shit I think chubby rei is my new fetish. Post sauce pls
My Ayanami Can't Be This Fat
So nice to see Asuka assuming her rightful spot as the third wheel.
you read me like an open book there user, i'm very dumb
Thanks senpai, masturbating to this when i get off work
Eva is just a shitty harem without plot
There, I said it
You mean middle wheel.
Asuka and Rei are for protecting and comforting Shinji.
Against his will.
HNNNGGGG
I think the first one is closer to NGE, while the second one is closer to the Rebuild. But they're still too similar, so I'm not sure.
So
Asuka x kaworu
Rei x shinji
Gendo x adam embrio
Kaji x Pen-Pen
What books does Rei like?
Filthy BL shit
Shinji's anatomy
That would explain why she allowed this scene to be as gay as it was
No, It goes:
Shinji x Hikari
Rei x Toji
Asuka x Gendo
Kaworu x PenPen
Yui/Eva-01 x Kensuke
These pairings were all decided with math and science for maximum compatability.
Elaborate
Also, Amazon or eBay? Either way it's shipping from Japan.
It's $6 cheaper on eBay (at least the Sega one), but I'm not sure if it's worth the risk.
Did Gendo Ikari die in EoE or he got mental hallucination showing his death?
And why SEELE waited till the last minute to start the assault, was it because they were unaware of the fact that there was Lilith in the Geofront instead of Adam?
Why wouldn't they know about Lilith, they're the ones who found it
Human, All Too Human
SEELE didn't wait. When Kaworu died and their initial plan failed they rushed in.
Edgy
Kaworu thought that it was Adam , and he was sent there by SEELE.
i bet you had to google what it was
stupid asukafag
What was the deal with nerv detecting two angels when kawaru was with shinji and adam? Rei popped up out of nowhere and was watching from above. then that 2nd angel dissapeared from nerv's detection
Seele wanted rid of Kaworu
user, I..
Just because you had to doesn't mean everyone else does
Just imagine if Shinji have wished for a universe where there is just him watching Asuka and Rei doing Wrestling everydays and have sex with the winner, how it will turn to be?
>no u
sasuga
What was the original plan? To let Kaworu start instrumentality?
>no u
sasuga
There is no original plan, their plan all along was that Kaworu would die
They needed all the angels dead to implement their version of third impact
Mods get off your asses and blast this thread to hell
Rei used her AT Field for a moment to get down there
Just let us love rei
>sex with the winner
>not also raping the loser
Help
Even as a diehard Reifag this thread is making me see Anno's point of view with her. I think some of you guys are getting the wrong feel entirely. She makes me want to love and protect her to reciprocate how she would love and protect me. I don't want to share her mindset, though I actually do implement it where it's useful (I've gotten really good at vidya by thinking what Rei would do in a certain scenario and that sort of disregard is very good for developing discipline in things you wouldn't want to do normally.); instead I want her to still be herself, but learn to enjoy life.
I want this because even though I love the type of character that Rei is, I love Rei herself more.
The 1st one
I just realized, Gendo and Asuka never once interact. Not even Asuka trying to get attention.
If they had to talk for whatever reason, what would it be like?
waht was penguins endgame
Impregnating misato
Pen-Pen was the true leader of SEELE. Keel Lorenz secretly took orders from him.
lol
should I finally bite the bullet and watch this
Dont
Let's all love Rei
Yes. Then you can join us the endless waifu war.
I just love her so much lads
>I just realized, Gendo and Asuka never once interact.
Asuka was irrelevant for Gendo's & Seele's schemes, she was mostly there for the actual angel fighting, We feel she has equal relevance to Shinji & Rei because of how long she's been around, but in reality she was more like Touji and the rest of the class: cannon fodder that could be replaced if need be.
>If they had to talk for whatever reason, what would it be like?
Gendo barely even talks to his son, If initiated by him, any interaction he needed to have with the pilots would be through intermediaries, but if a situation really had to have him talk to her it would probably be just technical eval talk. What's most likely is her initiating the conversation, probably to talk herself up and her performance, maybe to get herself some extra privileges, and he'd probably just try to finish things quickly and go 'I see, next time take this matters with major Katsuragi'.
I'm always scared of watching new things because it feels like on a fundamental level it could change my life and in that way basically kill me. This is stupid though because every single time I've finished a series like that I came out feeling amazing and full of new perspective. Eat that fucking bullet, slather it in ketchup and slam it into your mouth like a starving pig, worst that could happen is that you don't become a waifufag.
What the fuck are you talking about. Just watch the fucking cartoon
/thread
Amazon or eBay?
How reliable are Japanese sellers on either of these platforms?
why do you guys like this besides the waifuism and the seemingly pesudo-deep philosphy I've gathered from reading synopses?
Just watch the dang anime.
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I dunno senpai, I just like the 1st one more
>Eat that fucking bullet, slather it in ketchup and slam it into your mouth like a starving pig
I... it's that how others consume anime? Because I think I been doing it wrong then. I just play a file in my computer.
my time is already being crunched from college :-(
Weekends are a thing and if you have time to shitpost here you have time to watch the fucking anime.
Because it's giant robots fighting cool alien things, but also treated in a sensible way that gives the events that happen weight. Waifu-fagging is basically entirely extraneous, like the new game+ of the experience, it's largely the way that it interacts with Yea Forums so what you see of it is related to that despite it being basically nothing in the show itself. If you're going to make it hard to convince you, then it will stop being worth it to try to help you. Watch the cartoon already or forever hold your penis my dude.
Watch an episode a day, you can be done in less than a month, considering you're posting here, if you don't have 30mins off a day you're a liar.
lmao imagine putting in effort at college
okay I'll do it but why does this series have two different endings? which one do I prioritize?
Reminder.
Why does the fandom overwhelmingly portray Keel Lorenz as a selfish and evil man who cares for nothing but himself in fics? That's not the impression I got of him at all in the few scenes he was actually on screen. No idea what his original plan for Instrumentality was, but he didn't seem begrudging or angry about SEELE's failure and that Third Impact was started on Gendo/Shinji's terms. He just seems happy that he finally gets to be tanged.
Both. Watch the original and then the EoE.
Just watch them both
EoE is the real world ending
You'll understand what's happening in the original 25 and 26 after EoE, they're not contradictory
Yes they are.
Just view them as seperate.
Still mad shitflix fucked up the "all is right with the world" line
Imagine being this dumb
25 and 26 are just scenes from instrumentality
In what way are they contradictory?
>which one do I prioritize?
If by prioritize you mean which one to watch? Then both. If by prioritize you mean which order to watch, then as with any other media it's WATCH IT IN THE RELEASE ORDER, any other answer it's either memeing or de ramblings of actual retards.
I just listened to all the evangelion soundtracks except the remake ones. Why isn't ode to joy in hte original soundtracks lol
It was the writer's explicit intent that the endings were different.
The instrumentality Shinji experiences in 25/26 is different from the one he started and controlled in EoE
He's like an evangelical nut trying to help send jews back to Israel so Armageddon can happen. As long as the second coming happens he'll be happy even if it's not 100% in his own terms but fucker is crazy anyway.
Prove it
Did SEELE even realize that
Instrumentality was hijacked?
Provide evidence to your claims.
TANG'D
I imagine they probably noticed the giant Lilith turning up yeah
being tang’d must be really nice.
Rei is there, to gently help you relax and hold your hand in comfort and in love.
Your anxieties melt away, you feel light as air, youve never felt happier then you melt away into blissful tang to live forever in her arms
>Anno: Sadists, without question, go to Rei, because of their sadistic desires. I believe that masochists go to Asuka. And, there is a tendency for women of the same generation and people who are children mentally to go to Misato.
>Provide evidence to your claims.
Not, him, I actually disagree with him and do see both endings as concurrent, but there actually is an interview where they talk about both endings being different, but all that really means is their execution is different.
Is that a real quote lmao? Definitely applies to me.
>tang
I'd rather be turned into a drink that actually taste good desu.
>t.
>Sadist go to Rei, the girl that doesn't like eating animals
Shows how little he knows of her character or her fans. I don't even like killing bugs that get in my house and rather just capture them and kick them out. Hell, a lot of the appeal of Rei is the desire to protect. Hell even some of her criticism and that of her fans is around that aspect and how it relates to Moe rather than sadism.
The problem with Rei is that her character grinds to a halt after episode 6
>Anno: But Rei is [the character] I least understand. In addition, I’m not really that interested in her. There were parts where that’s what I was consciously doing, actively trying to put aside my presuppositions, trying to bring out the most primitive, the most core, the purest parts within me.
>Oizumi: So Rei is perhaps [something] embedded in your unconscious [that] can’t be expressed in words.
>Anno: Even in the midst of making Eva, I suddenly realized I had forgotten her. Her very existence. In episode seven, I remembered, and added a single shot with Rei. I had no emotional attachment to her at all. I think that was fine, because she didn’t appear in episode eight, not even for a single shot.
>Anno: Episode six was too soon.
>Takekuma: Episode six was too soon? Ah, the decisive battle in Tokyo-3. There was a level of intensity there like that of a final episode.
>Anno: When creating the characters for Eva - in the case of Asuka, [when I had] the lines “Anta Baka!?” and “Chance…”, I thought, ah, this is going to work. In the case of Rei, it was the line in episode six: “You won’t die. I will protect you.” And also at the end, when Rei says, “I don’t know what kind of expression I should have at a time like this,” and Shinji says, “I think you should smile,” and Rei smiles. I felt like, ah, this is going to work. At those two points, Rei’s character was created. However, when I thought about it afterwards, I cursed. I thought, in short, that if she has [already] communicated with Shinji there, then isn’t she over with? At that moment, Rei, for me, was finished, all at once.
>Takekuma: You had finished depicting her.
>Anno: Right. When she smiled, she was already finished with, this character.
It doesn't, sure she's dropped off for a few episodes but then keeps going from mid action arc and forward.
From the Platinum Collection booklets:
Thus, the story of Eva would branch into two stories with the diverging point being the end of Episode Twenty-Four "The Final Messenger." The two stories each unfold differently and arrive at their own climaxes.
It is not that one is the complete version and the other is incomplete. Just like the multiple endings of a game, two different endings were prepared for one story.
Gendo uses Rei to execute the Human Instrumentality Project and the complementation of man begins.
Gendo says, “All souls will become one and find eternal peace”. His Instrumentality Project must have been for all human souls to be combined as one and to compensate each other for what they have been deprived of. In the story that follows from Episode 25 “Air” to Episode 26 “A Pure Heart For You”, he was not able to execute the scenario he had drawn up. It may be that it was in Episode Twenty-Five and Episode Twenty-Six that his wish actually came true.
The moment that Shinji gains conviction that it is okay for him to be there, the background changes, and the blue Earth spreads beneath his feet. However, there are no continents on this Earth, and it is covered by a gigantic coral reef. It seems this is the Earth that has been transfigured by the Instrumentality Project.
It is left for the audience to decide whether this ending is the Best Ending or the Bad Ending.
From an interview:
Hayashibara: So there will be two episode 25s.
Anno: Right, it will be a multi-ending.
Hayashibara: So, a dual... ah, a multi-ending. After episode 24 the endings will diverge.
Anno: Right.
Hayashibara: There will be two of them.
Anno: There will be two of them.
Hayashibara: Ah, two endings.
Anno: Yes.
Hayashibara: In terms of gaming - is it called a simulation game? What do you call it? The ending for that [particular] self changes as you go on [through the game].
Anno: Right, a multi-ending [game].
Fake
She smiles at the end of episode 6 but remains the exact same autist for the rest of the series
Please tell me you're pretending.
As soon as the break given to Asuka and Misato end she returns in one of the most iconic shifts in production and creative vision in anime history. You can actually pinpoint the moment Anno drops the cool robot shit and starts going toward what made Evangelion, Evangelion.
Anno on Rei:
>Rei is the one I least understand
Also Anno on Rei:
>I was trying to bring out the most primitive, the most core, the purest parts within me.
Still Anno on Rei:
>I had no emotional attachment to her at all.
As I said, he doesn't even understand her and even he knows it.
That's okay, one moment doesn't completely alter somebody's being and it leads into her actions later. Anno says stuff sometimes; in order to make something like this you have to be halfway retarded and crazy.
Ep 6 Rei liked Shinji because he reminded her of Gendo
Ep 6 Rei would still do whatever Gendo asked her
Ep 6 Rei wouldn't have betrayed Gendo.
Ep 6 Wasn't Rei's character arc end, it was her beginning. If She was the MC Ep 6 would be her inciting incident.
Her smiling in EP6 didn't suddenly change her entire personality.
Her smiling in EP6 didn't suddenly change her entire personality.
Holy fucking based. Only a true master like Anno wouldn't even attempt to develop an emotional attachment to an inhuman doll like Rei.
The entire point of the scene is that she's more open to expressing emotion but that's never delivered on
>Anno: In regards to the characters, I especially emotionally identify with Shinji, Misato, and Asuka.
>Kaworu-kun is my shadow. Rei is the innermost, unconcious part of me. If possible, I wanted to prevent putting parts of me [in the show] as much as possible, but it couldn't be avoided.
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>Asuka was a prickly bitch early on and she became a crying mess who only needed a hug by the end THAT's character development. Meanwhile Rei didn't completely alter her personality the moment she smile so that means she never had any character development after that, AUTIST!
No one's asking for her to completely change her character, just to show the slightest sign and not just go immediately back to sperging all over the place in episode 9
>but that's never delivered on
Oh for fucks sake.
Rei doesn't stop showing emotions since then. Just because you can't understand subtlety doesn't mean there isn't something going on.
>Kaworu-kun is my shadow
why is anno such a fag
That's exactly the same level of expression she had in episode 5 when she slapped Shinji
Zero progression
His father was absent it seems.
>Shinji will never keep treating Rei to his cooking, gradually making her soft and plump and ideal for snuggles and lap pillows. He'll never realize how addicted he is to her marshmellowy thighs and warm hugs.
Worst timeline.
Why do people still care about anything that Anno says?
You don't need to agree with the artist to appreciate art and find the meaning in it.
Anno also made the Rebuilds, but this doesn't automatically make them good.
>but that's never delivered on
She gets physical with Shinji because of Gendo on episode 5.
She almost gets physical with Asuka of all people because of Shinji 11 episodes later.
Zero progression lol.
What kind of freak tells a girl she should be a housewife
What the HELL was she thinking here? Did she actually think Shinji was stealing Kaji from here lmao?
Shinji is replacing kaji as her object of affection you dunce
Perfect woman.
Notto disu shitto agen.
>She gets physical with Shinji on episode 5
>She wants to get physical with Shinji on episode 23
That's what I call progression lol.
It looks more like Kaji is taking Shinji out on a date
Not you'd make a good scientist, or you'd make a good doctor, or anything worthwhile
No, you'd make a good housewife
Holy shit that's insulting
>I can only perceive huge leaps at once
She knew Kaji was a manwhore but she liked him so she took his cheating out on his conquests instead.
The smile IS a huge leap
That goes nowhere
Only if you think Motherhood is degrading. I hate you and I'm a fucking liberal.
>We could've gotten ultra chad Kaworu whisking Asuka off her feet and making her happy
>Anno instead went full homosexual and forces Kaworu to only ever talk to his self-insert shinji
There's a difference between being a mother and being a housewife
Implying being a housewife can't be a meaningful and fulfilling thing that brings Joy to you and the people you care about.
You keep judging people on frivolous titles and you'll end up a cynical, self loathing arivisté like Asuka.
>>We could've gotten ultra chad Kaworu whisking Asuka off her feet
Well, he did make her heart skip a few beats and her tummy get a weird feeling so that counts.
Asuka was a catatonic, mind raped mess at that point in the story.
Cope
The former only shits out a baby and the latter actually gives a shit about her family. We know.
Any worthless fertile sack of meat can be a mother, it takes character to become a pillar for your descendants.
It requires zero talent or skill
It's like being told you'd make a good trash collector
Is it just me or does Asuka look much cuter in this episode? Was this scene DC only, drawn with an actual budget?
lmao you're one of those mothers shouldn't work stay in the kitchen chuds
Kill yourself
you will never be a real woman
He lives with Misato 'beers, snacks & ice' Katsuragi, while he does all the house cleaning. His calling her a housewife is probably the greatest compliment he can muster.
she really wanted sex contact with him? that's why she was bleeding between the legs?
Women should take care of their offspring, which a 40h/week job doesn't allow.
Dumping children off with babysitters and daycares is why many millennials are such retarded snowflakes.
>lmao you're one of those mothers shouldn't work stay in the kitchen chuds
>Kill yourself
Yui wanted to be a housewife but instead followed the liberal agenda and just see how hard humanity got fucked because of it.
>men can't look after children
You're retarded and hilariously ignorant. It requires as many skills as being a manager of a functioning business. Budgeting skills, planning skills, parenting skills, organizing, problem solving, practical skills like cooking and many more. This a de facto a job and the only reason why it's even below burger flipping in social cherarchy is because women are doing it and a women's work is always inherently worth lessthanks to misogynists like you. Fuck you.
>tfw absent cold mother who worked with children so had no patience for her own
>tfw absent father who worked all the time and you would only see once a year
why couldent i have a real mommy
Fortunately women get to decide what they want to do with their lives and all you can do about is seethe. Keep seething.
Not accurate at all. If anything I'm a masochist and a Reifag as well.
Humans are genetically predisposed to have the male leave the cave and hunt dangerous shit for food while the female looks over the offspring.
Deal with it tranny.
Thanks, needed this
Fortunately some women are still feminine and love being a pillar of a functional family which is what men ultimately want and all you can do is seethe. Keep seething.
This thread was going so well until the inevitable waifu war trashed it. Guess this is the eternal fate of Evangelion.
CUTE CUTE CUTE
Source?
ITT
Just as Anno intended.
Let's be real, we really can't.
Oops, wrong image.
Thread was fine until the tranny decided to bitch about Rei being feminine.
Retards like you always think they can bullshit whatever they want into "evolution" and "genes". This is why biological arguments like this are so worthless. The truth is that the females were leaving the cave just as much as the males only for different reasons like gathering, fruit hunting and also hunting for smaller prey. Women also constructed the clothes men wore and were the pillars of evolving society. You could say women were the true drivers of human civilization and evolution of intelligence because as studies show women tend to pick more intelligent males while males like their mates to be "dumber than them." So thank your grant grant grant granny for your big brain.
>muh evopsych just so story nonsense
Lmao
wew lad
somebody has too many cats
I don't seethe at anything, retard. I am for choice and respect for whatever women chose to do. In case you haven't noticed feminity is not exatly respected around much of the planet. You can either try to be like males or be "second class" in their eyes. Doesn't help that it's women who too often are the enforcers of that system.
>If anything I'm a masochist and a Reifag as well.
I'm curious how that works. I can sort of wrap my head around the 'Reifags are Sadists' if you squint and look through a freudian prism but don't see how Reifag Masochims works unless you identify as Rei rather than with Rei.
>this thread
I have three dogs, actually. Did I shatter your worldview now?
>I am for choice and respect
Unless it's being a housewife it seems.
It's not like I identify myself as a masochist, I guess I just have a tendency to inflict pain on myself
But the part of Rei that appeals to me is the her nurturing aspect, sure she's a soft person but she's strong too.