>Aiz has no emo-
DanMachi - Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?
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Ironic, when Danmachi S1 came out it was cheap lowbrow videogamey fantasy trash, but it's been so long that by the time that S2 is out its become a quaintly sincere and almost higher standard relic in the JRPG fantasy genre.
I don't agree.
Aiz a boring autist.
Fatina the best tower climber.
What's wrong with her gloves? Why does the top part looks like it's fur on her arms?
They treated her like trash so of course to the anime only she seems like a bland character.
Reminder that Lefiya is endgame and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
Literally who
Cute. Her dance with Bell was great.
The cutest elf in the entire series.
It really is bizarre. Well I enjoyed S1 but yeah I thought it was a trashy fantasy RPG anime but since then the surge of shitty isekai and shitty adaptions of isekai has lowered the bar for fantasy anime so much that DanMachi seems so high quality in comparison. Not even only the story and characters (which aren't even very good) but the production and direction and animation and everything. Even though they are what should be standard, isekai is SO fucking bad it is making DanMachi look like a masterpiece.
Well your stupid then.
>and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
But I don't want to stop it. I want it to happen. Bell deserves better than the Greek Gnome and the Sword Austist. Moreover, Lefiya needs to get over her unhealthy homosexuality and preserve her superior "Thousand Elf" genes by producing children with a worthy enough husband.
I think you mean Tiona.
God why is melting the ice queen trope so great?
It's a shame Mikoto is Takesexual and Tione is Finnsexual, these girls would be great in Bell's harem, what's with these faggotry of not all girls can be for Bell, author is going against grandpa's wishes.
I hate that the anime cuts out all of her monologues. It makes her seem like a deadfish.
What else did you expect from JC original content Staff and all the other LN adaptations they’ve intentionally butchered over the years
Honestly, Mikoto being a temporary team member is what bugs me more than her love life. It feels all kinds of weird since Familia's are supposed to be close, in a sense. Once the year is out, Bell will be short one confidant who can actually fight since she's dedicated to chasing after an unrequited crush.
>jap and a slut
They can keep them.
Hestia, Takemikazuchi, and Miach Familias should really just form a permanent dungeon-diver coalition.
They sort of do.
It's more or less established, they should actually make efforts in getting new members.
>Not wanting a berserk amazon and a cool headed samurai.
Pleb.
So he want Bell to cook for him?
What was Apollo's problem?
The only way to pick up new members who aren't level 1 scrubs is to grab the survivors of a familia that has disbanded or lost its deity. But Apollo Familia stragglers were driven away by debt and Ishtar Familia members would be blocked by jealous cunts like Lili and Hestia, so the only way they could get decent new members is if somebody assassinates Loki or if they somehow track down Astraea and get Ryu transferred
S1 was a fucking blast, fuck you. Minotaur fight was one of the best fight scenes of that season, if not year.
They kind of are. The memebers help each other all the time, examples being the t-rex egg raid, and mikoto goes back to her familia to chat all the time, so it reasonable to think she gives a portion of her cut to them. They are more or less one combined familia, just seperated in name due to guild rules
Hestia alone is enough to carry the show, Bell is also a likable MC unlike let's say Subaru.
God I wish that were me
Elves aren't supposed to be pure...
Elves are good for rape only
>Let me fabricate a strawma-
>He's not nailing his goddess
>He's not nailing miss supporter
>He's not nailing bar girl
What a fucking shame, bell. What is this about wanting a harem when you dont pick up the ones nearest to you?
The moment he decides on one the rest of his harem disintegrates or kills each other. He has to make them completely emotionally dependent on him first
>be characters in "medieval" fantasy
>dress up like this
Why do they do this?
she may stay because of Haruhime.
his ego
The tech level isn't medieval at all though. There's elevators and shit. It's just all powered by magic crystals that are mostly only found in monsters from the dungeon
Lefiya is for being gang-raped by minotaurs
Blame the gods my man. The rules don't matter to them as long as they find it interesting. Bringing down advanced tech or clothing designs is nothing to them.
I'm not sure Bell actually inherently wants to fuck a harem, it's just a meme that his grandpappy told him to do. Which he might have gotten from watching Argonaut clown around.
>"medieval"
Stop. It's a magical world where magic stones are used to power machines and artificial lights.
Also there are magical textiles such as Salamander Wool and Undine Cloth imbued with spirit magic, magical objects that turn you invisible or make you fly.
>dress up like this
If you mean the cut, it's easy to explain - the gods from Earth did also spy on us, but decided to play in another/parallel world.
who is the girl on the right?
most of Yea Forums's older userbase has been replaced by faggots from /r/anime, go figure
Orna from the Argonaut tale
I love native isekai.
From left to right:
Wishe, one of the three great poets (Lefiya's ancestor)
Argonaut, the clown and dawn hero
Fina, Argonaut's not blood-related half-elf sister (perhaps connected to Aina/Eina Tulle?)
Orna, the human secret princess and half-sister of Ariadne, also one of the three great storytellers.
Love the designs in this show. The girls are all delicious.
How come Subaru is so much more popular than Bell, though?
Someone asked in a previous thread about Heracles. Could be him killing the Nemean lion (minus the serpent head on the tail), or Bellerophon killing the Chimera (but the scene is completely different).
Wait... Bell... Bellerophon...
I forgot is lili still part of soma familia? who is that dog girl that's friends with hestia?
Maybe it's really a VR game world and the "gods" are actually the human players. That would explain the anachronistic stuff that appears out of place.
Yes, she tried to save up enough money (and steal Hestia Knife) in order to buy herself free, but her savings were stolen by her familia members (who were later killed by the minotaurus). She doesn't have enough at the moment to buy her freedom.
Naza, Miach's only surviving familia member.
Probably because Re:Zero is generally more popular
Maybe because Bell's VA is an autistic screecher.
>Naza, Miach's only surviving familia member.
Huh, somehow I completely missed that she's his only remaining child.
what is miach a god of?
Made for pure Pallum babies.
what would sex with freya be like? would she let you be on top?
I cant remember any of s1. But Im not going to watch ep0. Ill just try to remember. But I didnt watch any of the blond hair girls seasons. Is that necessary.
>But I didnt watch any of the blond hair girls seasons. Is that necessary.
It's not necessary, but I'd still recommend watching it. Lots of Yea Forums hated it but I thought it was great fun.
No, she would drain you dry in only a few minutes
>glasses
does anyone else think this is fucking hideous?
Not a fan of her frames but in general I do love glasses
No
This anime is so fucking trash. 1st episode was embarassing shit. Only betas and ntrcucks gonna like this.
I agree but the brownies
>Only betas and ntrcucks gonna like this
Does she fug bell?
Imagine not titty fucking Hestia every nights.
>liking brown girls
literally only you, user.
I only like brown animu girls though.
I swear I saw these exact same posts in the last thread.
We're missing the "Aiz = vanilla ice cream" one.
How do we protect Bell's virginity?
I don't even get the logic behind that one. Aiz is an autistic, ptsd-afflicted, stealth edgelord. She's pretty much the opposite of vanilla.
Imagine being this gay
He fucks Hestia every night in the light novel.
You can't.
Bell probably doesn't even know what that is. He couldn't even comprehend the concept of prostitution while smack in the middle of the red light district, ffs.
>Danmachichads can now enjoy Aiz in español latino!
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Threadly reminder Freya is the best goddess and if you think otherwise you're categorically fucking retarded.
I'm sorry, I can't read Japanese. Can you please tell me what she's saying.
Oh and obviously not. Bell is a virgin going for Ais.
poorfag that smiles at women and tries to bribe Bell with cheap potions while paying back a huge debt. Basically, male Hestia.
Just kidding.
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But that's somewhat different from Danmachi.
>Things that never happened
There's no reason to make things up, Hestia. He doesn't love you like that.
>yfw Lefiya is in s2 and Yea Forums freaks the FUCK out
Seriously, what is up with Syr and Freya having the same hair? They're not the same person since that's been made clear several times, but still they look so similar.
do you think she ever walks around naked in front of her familia?
A small cameo at best. Just like in S1 Episode 1. If you're lucky she'll talk to Bell. But you're not lucky.
well, vanilla is actually a pretty strong and distinct flavor
it's also been hinted at repeatedly that they do have some connection and that Syr isn't just some simple barmaid
I guess they'll reveal it eventually
I wouldn't mind, I like her a lot.
>tfw you'll never receive divine paizuri from Hestia
The real world is a cruel place. Being 3D sucks ass.
She's also in S1 - well, in the disc version.
why does loki sit like that?
A goddess kills a goddess this season. Get spoiled fags.
Hestia is the character for all otaku and I hate her.
The video games elements were already the most glaring flaws back then. Also S1 had some pretty solid and appreciated moments.
It's like a doctored communist photo, but in reverse.
Shame in the years since most anime have just gone all in on VG mechanics instead of a good story with good characters and developments. I feel like everything is simultaneously subversion and cliche.
It's called the George Lucas edit.
She's french vanilla.
>Lefiya
Has the most unlikeable character in the entire series. God I wish she got eaten or raped.
I never got this. What did George edit that was such a big deal? Never saw the originals.
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The originals aren't the only thing he edited.
Does Hestia actually sleep in the same clothes that she wears out? Does she only have one set of clothing? When does she wash it?
She's got dozens of those tattered dresses iirc. I don't really know why she wears them though when literally anything else she's ever worn suits her better.
Yes she does do that and we've known this since the beginning.
Is it wrong to have autism in a dungeon?
Also why is Welf checking out Bell's posterior?
But I've already taken his virginity?
context?
Hestia is S T I N K Y
>Hestia
Remember when they made an event to capitalize on hestia's tits and barely anyone came?
If anything, most remembered this anime for the minotaur fight.
Sounds like the anime adaptation of my life 2bh.
DAE think Lili is TOO SMALL?
Nah, IIRC Ryu's falna has been modified to allow instant conversion to another familia when Astraea left Orario
Is this what you want?
Is this why you're here?
Do I really need to watch the spinoff about the annoying elf to understand S2? I really don't like the elf.
The spinoff is edgier.
People actually die.
This series would have been way more interesting if it was about a MC trying to rape girls in a dungeon.
Sorry to say this but Bell with his ridiculous "lol nobody else got this xddd" argonaut power is just an awful MC especially since he gets a harem that remains madly in love with him despite him showing zero interest in them.
In reality both girls would have eventually got frustrated and dumped him due to his fixation on Aiz, but NOPE! They just love him FOREVER and unconditionally. Fuck that.
Also there are people who worked harder than him and never got any OP powers and advanced slower, why the fuck was he singled out for special treatment?
That doesn't change the fact that the MC is incredibly annoying. My question still stands, do I need to watch that stupid fucking elf's show to understand S2 or can I go right from S1 to it?
It's basically like asking "do I have to watch Railgun to understand Index?"
The answer is no, not really.
Thank god. I really hated that elf. Thanks for the answer.
>People actually die.
This is something that's holding the main series back I think. There aren't enough stakes to make this a real epic. Where's the dead people with emotional death scenes?
later
Vol 10 and past that are where stakes are getting higher. Everyone bullies Bell and try to break him from pureness. Seriously, what a bunch of assholes
Bell bullying is the best!
Level 4:
Strength: C676
Endurance: B701
Dexterity: B724
Agility: B718
Magic: C655
Luck: F
Abnormal Resistance: G
Escape: I
This is even better than expected.
Holy fucking shit that ending was fucking terrible. I actually really liked this series despite people shitting on it but this is BY FAR the absolute dumbest development by far. Are they serious? Is this a serious development? I honestly can't tell because it is cliche to the point I am used to seeing it being parodied rather than played straight.
While that's all well and good, it's not what I want. Give me my permanent deaths damn it! No resurrections! I want dead bodies and I want them now!
Maybe later on, Bell and Crew still isn't for deeper floors yet. At least, you get moments of despair and hopelessness.
The only good thing about this arc is the war game battle. JC probably going to fuck it up anyway
>these girls would be great in Bell's harem, what's with these faggotry of not all girls can be for Bell,
Fuck no. More than enough girls are after Bells
D as it is. For all the girls to be after a 14 year old would be creepy and bloody stupid.
They haven't even reached half the depth of Loki Familia and Bell is basically too overpowered for the floors they're currently exploring because the others are holding him back. As long as they go at things like this, nobody will die.
Not really no, since they're living in a literal shithole where you kill monster trying to come out of the dungeon and those who managed to get out are literal man-slaying man-eating giants and shit, rather than risking your and others life, it's better to kill on sight all monsters. Besides, they only saw a fucking fire breathing dragon (That can be turned to loads of valis) going to a populated area, and not a cute mostly nude dragongirl. Fucking Bell dammit.
t. Hermes
Sýr is one of Freyja's names. Mia Grand (pub's owner) is a former captain of Freya Familia. It's pretty obvious that there's some connection between Syr and Freya, and it's most likely a crucial part of the main plot, considering that the author had both characters prepared since the very beginning.
The interesting part is similarity of their appearances as it could imply blood relation. Daughter, maybe? I believe Syr said that she doesn't know her parents.
Has this show had Hephaestus's butt in it yet?
I just realized that literally everyone is older than Bell. Even Lili is older than Bell.
Why would that matter? What's the age of maturity in that world's setting?
Haruhime is 16 and was officially working as a prostitute.
I don't want Bell and his friends to die, but others who aren't in his party need to die. We need to see how dangerous the dungeon really is in the main story. Give me monsters eating people!
>Daughter, maybe? I believe Syr said that she doesn't know her parents.
I was thinking that myself. Syr could easily be lying about not knowing her parents. Since she almost definitely knows about her connection to Freya and doesn't talk about that.
> She found Bell sleeping against a wall and sat down next to him. She noted that he'd helped them, thanking him for his help in defeating Revis, and told him that she heard his voice. At that point, Bell's head fell onto her shoulder, and Ais herself leaned back on him. Ais thanked Bell and fell asleep.
Cute and canon.
what volume
Well, it has been happening. Just barely any named characters.
Latest SO volume
untranslated or translated?
Check the wikia. Synopsis is done.
this thing is scary man
if only it had a drop item which welf could forge into another knife for bell, one that takes peoples limbs off if they try to block it and shit
Okay. I should really update the goddess links
fucking hell
>Bell fought this motherfucker with broken ribs, barely breathing, arm pretty much dangling, and out of gas
Man, every time he steps the fuck up his game makes me cheer for Bell. All the beating leading to a grandiose victory is euphoric
You forgot about how he got injured by it and instead of trying to heal the would and just used firebolt on himself to cauterize the wound and kept fighting.
wound*
wtf what happened to the cute rabbit?
Bell shrugging off wounds to continue fighting is a really step away from his previous I don't want to get hurt self.
A really bad day, and more bad days.
>that aiz
how come her anime design is so bad compared to the ln and manga?
Should I start playing the appli game? Or is it too late.
>when you get so jealous of a monster girl so much that you go despair mode and asked blankly for someone to save her
Anime designs are 99.99% of the time made more bland to make animating it easier
In her defence, she was also getting cucked by Aisha and Ryuu
Do people seriously enjoy this autistic hot trope? I had a classmate like this in HS. Almost no one talked to her because she always did one word replies and everyone thought she was a conceited bitch, but you could see she was just severely autistic. Still, I never saw anything in her. Like a soulless ghoul with no emotions whatsoever...
or the amazon sisters
Her lying where Bell was to keep him all to herself was cute in a way
can't wait for bete to kill himself when Bell reaches level 6 and smacks him around
If you want to play the Argonaut story, it ends on the 30th this month. You should start.
I started like 3 days ago and beat that story yesterday on VD. It doesn't take long, but I did invest some time.
Bell right after advancing to level 4 was as strong as high-tier level 4s.
With current stats he should be able to fight on par with weaker level 5s.
After next level-up (which he's already eligible for) he will be a top-tier level 5.
Meanwhile all his regular expedition members are level 2, level 3 at best. Now that's some great party balance.
Agreed
>tfw the forward-thinking, visionary and confident performer Argonaut who casually charms every woman he meets was reincarnated as Bell who drops his spaghetti every time he has to interact with a woman he finds attractive
>abstract merchant.jpg
Yeah, even the level 4s he's involved with are weaker than him at this point - Ryuu and Aisha, but at least they can contribute something unlike his party members.
Although Mikoto is very useful thanks to her skill - or was that magic? - regardless of level. Well, and Haruhime obviously.
Bringing Welf along to repair weapons is okay too. But Lilly is pretty much useless.
Though if you ONLY want to read the Argonaut story because soshage is fucking cancer, you can watch it on Youtube.
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Hestia is overrated
Aiz is trash
>After next level-up (which he's already eligible for)
tbqh he really shouldn't level up until he maxes out and gets SS in every stat like his last few levels, that shit adds up. plus i'm pretty sure he's only close to levelling up, not necessarily being held back or something
IF Ryuu ended up joining the Hestia familia and had her status updated she would most likely be level 5
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This was a great moment, the whole speech, the background music, and the gods laughing like madmen because they have fun thanks to the clown.
Still kind of annoyed that Hestia chose to hide Mikoto's new skill from her. It's obviously going to be relevant later on, but its kind of a dick move to say the least. And Hestia's bad habit of hiding things from her own followers always end up biting them in the ass in some fashion.
>Haruhime
I just realized, when Bell becomes level 5, with Haruhime's boost he should be able to solo even level 6 adventurers.
in her defence, mikoto has nearly kamikazed in two different occasions, and that new skill would probably mark her for death
What was the hidden skill again? I honestly don't remember anymore.
>Wait... Bell... Bellerophon...
The main issue with her level up is that the user isn't used to it. Remember the Moss Huge fight? It took Bell a long time to get used to his new level and his body and mind to be in sync.
They could obviously train for that but still.
>i'm pretty sure he's only close to levelling up, not necessarily being held back or something
"At the Hestia Familia home, after she updated his status, Hestia asked Bell what'd he done, as he'd gone up 3400 points in total. She'd already heard about what happened, but upon hearing his answer that he'd almost died 8 times, she told him to tell the other members that she'd do their status updates another day since she was tired. She thought that he could potentially rank up but decided to keep quiet about it when she thought about how the other Gods would react, instead remarking that he'd grown a lot since they'd first met."
Hestia has a big, smelly anus
Lefiya is only good for being tentacle raped in front of Ais in the middle of the town square
Is he the Big gay?
Smelly butt seems to be a common side effect of black haired loli characters
>everyone in Orario hates Bell for attacking other adventurers over Wiene
>fuck the police I'm carrying on my way
>everyone in Lucrious hates Argonaut for "kidnapping" the princess
>dude comedy lmao
Bell is just fundamentally a more honest guy than Argo. Bell wants to be the hero and his desire is so strong that it haxx0red his EXP gain so that he could be one; Argo just accepted that he could never be a hero and decided to twist his tragedy into a comedy so others could be the heroes instead. though Argo may seem like a more confident guy than Bell, it's ultimately Bell who had the confidence to break his limits do the impossible and chase heroism, and not Argo, who instead settled for dying in a tragic farce
>Last time Bell got a level boost from Haruhime was volume 11
Guy got so OP that he doesn't even need it anymore.
The author separates him from his teammates for a good reason, they're too weak. Every time shit hits the fan Bell is dragged away with the strong or irregular enemy so that the others say alive.
>confidence
That's a funny way to spell "Ais got his peepee hard".
Omori truly fucked up Danmachi by adding an RPG-like system. Half of the complaints about the novel would disappear if he didn't add it.
>Dungeon Oratoria was 1000 years ago
>ais is allegedly 16
what's the twist?
Bete's pretty based. He'd get over it.
Mother being a Spirit and the father being replete with Falna.
As long as he also then made the other party members useful. Loki Familia never has this problem in the same way even with Lefiya being like lvl 3 at first.
>ais is allegedly 16
She's 1016 y.o.
did her dad have a falna? i was under the impression that went down before the gods even descended to earth
unless bell reaches ottar's level or some shit, they need an actual frontline, like ryuu
See how everyone in the party has their use regardless of level? And the author had the golden opportunity to fix Lilly as well with her level up, but no, he just had to push this strategist/commander bullshit and made her Finn's weak copy.
Lefiya's magic is pretty much a cheat. Heck, she most likely will learn even Haruhime's magic.
She could indeed. Would be interesting if the author went that way.
Lefiya can only learn other elves' magic. Haruhime isn't an elf.
Welf can now make unbreakable magic swords, repair shit and do all sorts of blacksmith shit
Haruhime can level people up the backline
Mikoto has her gravity magic which is incredibly useful
Lily doesn't do anything except for being a fucking leech and a pack mule
I thought she could only duplicate magic from other elves?
I don't think we're given the exact details, just that it is self-sacrificial in nature. Probably as a result of her habit to go kamikaze to take out enemies so everyone else can move on.
I do understand Hestia not wanting her to use that kind of skill. But limiting her options when in a life or death situation (which is almost every volume), isn't good either. It's another one of those cases where Hestia thinks she's doing a good thing, but her good intentions will lead to something getting screwed up later.
She can't because her magic only lets her copy other elves' magic. And it has some significant drawgbacks with it too.
Her new skill is pretty handy though, since it matches up nicely with her magic copying.
Mikoto is essentially a living radar for already encountered monsters as well. Which I find a lot more useful than her gravity magic.
you just know she's into it
How would you fix Lili? I feel like she's useless unless she provides morale support to Bell and Welf.
Yes, just like Bell, Ais, and basically any other character who is worth anything has multiple good skills to make them worthy of becoming level 5+. Bell's party is pretty good with that honestly, but it's not to the amount that those 3 are at or most of the top tiers in Loki/Freya are at. Though it's not like Welf or Lili are even supposed to be useful outside of support roles.
That's a great point. Everyone is pretty useful, but they're still not even close to Bell. Which is strange at this point. Lili may never level again within the story since she's a supporter. Maybe she'll be useless forever. Hard to say since she doesn't do much.
Give her a useful skill which will help in the dungeon just like the others have?
The only way for the author to fix Lili is to let her die in the next big arc, so that bell can be plunged into despair and rise from it like a phoenix from ash. She won't be missed by the fans though
It's not like everyone is a combatant. Even the big familias bring along weaker supporters on their expeditions.
>Killing Lili
I mean she's not that useful in the dungeon but outside of the dungeon and when it comes the shitty politics of the city. Her disguise and cunning is really fucking needed for a small family like Hestia
You know, even though this is from the manga. It seems like Bell has felt up more of Lefiya's body than any other girl at this point.
Kind of feels like a cop out, but I honestly can't help but agree. It feels like she just hit a wall at any sort of usefulness or plot relevance. After the Soma stuff got resolved in Wargames, she mostly just exists to be someone to get jealous other than Hestia.
I get he's trying to push her into the strategist role. But that seems to be going in the direction of making previously smart character be suddenly dumb to make her look smart. So her dying while being an actual "main" character would be a nice motivator for the rest.
Lily will never level up again. Omori wasn't even planning to let her become a level 2. He just did that because the editor convinced him.
I'm gonna be real with you bro, I just want someone important to die and I like lili the least
I know that. But making someone from the main cast nothing more than a mule 15 volumes in is just sad if you ask me.
She doesn't have to fight or whatever, but her crossbow support is pretty damn of no value at all at this point.
Just give her some stupid buff magic or whatever and that's enough.
RIP Lili. Destined to be a supporting character forever.
>He just did that because the editor convinced him
This editor has been pissing me off for the longest time. Virgin prostitute, Deus Ex Fels, and more.
i didn't mind the wiene one as much since it led to the showdown with ais, but still
Was that editor also the one that convinced him not to have Lefiya fight members of her own familia to protect Bell while he was defending the Xenos? Because if so then that's kind of just depressing. Since that would have been a good moment outside of the fucking gatcha game to showcase their relationship isn't just one-sided animosity.
Getting Lili to level up and potentially become useful actually sounded like a smart idea for once. Ignoring how it turned out.
The one who pissed me the most is how he made the author change the novel name. Familia Myth was a pretty cool title. No need to change that.
Could've had a marksman in the group but instead we get a mule. I feel disappointment.
That'll happen when she hits level 3. She gets a skill called Cockblocker, it permanently increases her party member's levels by 3 every time she uses it and also guarantees rare monster drops and fully heals her team. But the condition to unlock it is to keep Bell away from other girls and act like a total bitch until she reaches level 3.
Alright, I didn't know that but that's just taking the piss
Based Lili cockblocking all the thots.
Oh, so I have this fucker to blame why I have a hard time convincing people to try out the series? The title has fucked it for so long since it is only relevant to maybe the first few pages. After that it really doesn't match the rest of the series at all.
I know why she isn't available to join the Familia. Being the sole member (at the time) and all. But damn having Naaza be a member would be so much better. She's a much better marksman, and could provide the potionmaker niche to the group.
I remember someone jokingly said that Amid would be a better option than Lili in one of these threads. While that would never happen (being the top member in a high class Familia), she definitely did have way more to bring to the table. Being a healer and all. Hell, she and Bell even hit it off kind of nicely in the gatcha game during that one event.
Kind of off-topic from the current discussing. But I just finished reading the synopsis for Sword Oratoria Volume 12. Thoughts on it?
Seemed pretty good from what I can tell, and not as conclusive as I thought it would be. So the mentions of Omori just taking a break from it rather than 12 being the finale proved to be true.
Having Bell take out the Niddhog felt a bit much in my opinion. But I liked the detail of the Loki Familia members getting suspicious about his fighting style.
Also it seems like a shame that the Bell and Aiz moment at the end didn't get an illustration. But on the other hand we did get pic related in all its glory.
All I can say is:
God I love the slowly melting her of Ais.
>So the mentions of Omori just taking a break from it rather than 12 being the finale proved to be true
he needs to start progressing with the main story honestly.
He also is the one who rejected his draft of Oratoria volume 7 where Bell comes back from the slut district and meets the girls of Loki familia, it ends up just as a side story.
>I JUST WANT TO GET RID OF CUTE AND HAPPY TIMES
Why don't editors write their own story if they don't like the author's? I thought they were supposed to fix grammar mistakes and help the story flow better, not rewrite the whole thing.
Oh for fucks sake really? One of the main complaints people have with Sword Oratoria is the fact that it doesn't tie into the main story as cleanly as it could. So a scene like that in volume 7, then showcasing the context of the Loki girls being there in SO, would have helped address that issue a bit.
I know having editors for Light Novels help steer authors away from doing stupid shit occasionally. But Omori's seems like a real heap of dicks.
I agree, the pacing does seem to have been pretty off mainstory wise post volume 7 in my opinion. I do want to see Sword Oratoria continue in the future. Since it's great to get more world-building, lore, and the more big scale conflicts. But Bell's story really needs to have a clear direction at this point, because at the moment it still feels a bit "problem of the weekish" if you know what I mean.
its not that being completely support focused is a bad thing
thats what wives do
Too bad most side stories never get translated and Jew Press isn't as "generous" as J-Novel Club to give us bonus story translations.
>your stupid
...
Well there was an interview with an editor that made the rounds at one point. That was complaining about how some Light Novel series are basically entirely written by the editors because the actual authors were amateur who didn't know what they were doing. Or straight up weren't motivated to write anymore.
But obviously that was only one guys perspective and experience. So we're still mostly in the dark on this stuff. While some editors are clearly douchebags (like the one Omari seems to have), some authors really appreciate their editors reigning in some of their more ridiculous ideas.
From my experience with how it works in Western publishers. Editors work more as person you pitch your ideas to, and get feedback on. Because an author just absorbed into his own head without outside perspective can turn out some really bad shit. Rather than just looking for typos and the like.
Man Ottar just seems like a cool dude whilst Allen is just seething 24/7
i guess that's natural when he got cucked by the rabbit not once but twice
Isn't the most recent mainline volume basically a compilation of the previously released short stories, along with some more recent plot developments?
While I kind of dislike the "filler" volumes, that might be a good way of getting at least some of the short stories to us. Though I wish they used a ".5" volume system rather than labeling it as a mainline thing.
Yeah, it's mostly BD side stories I think. The author likes to do this. Volume 4 and 8 were pretty similar as well.
I'm honestly hoping that Ottar goes out of his way to train Bell at some point in the future. Soley so that Allen can get cucked a third time.
At least we got some synopsis' for a few of them. It's not much of a consolation, but it's better than nothing. Though the person who writes those is a hardcore Ryufag, so mostly focuses on getting those. Can't exactly blame them since store exclusive short stories is such bullshit to begin with.
Yeah, that guy from the wikia right? I think he browses Yea Forums as well. I remember posting the Ryuu side story from BW (volume 10) and a few days later the translation popped up on the wiki.
Btw. the two images I posted above were a purchase bonus as well. So all of these side stories are available.
Yeah, that guy. I appreciate everything he does though. Since a decent chunk the stuff we talk about here is stuff we only really know about because of him.
Though speaking of said side stories, I've been wondering about that ~5 years after~ one for awhile now. The Bell one obviously seemed to be a joke one. But the Aiz one seemed to be pretty significant. The way it is worded seems to imply a timeskip is going to occur at some point right?
>"Tell me what kind of orders the producer and staff gave"
>They wanted Hestia to be emphasized and for her to be main heroine, though Oomori refused
With the anime producers being Hestiafags and the editor of his books clearly being a faggot in his own right. I can't help but think Omori has a pretty rough time getting the story he wants out there.
DanMachi Shippuden.
I'm considering this a simple dream.
>People actually die.
So I'm guessing the guys who got minced by the Minotaur didn't die?
anyone know where to find the side stories
>danmachi.fandom.com
Since it can be a bit of a pain to navigate the Wikia, I'll spoonfeed you this time user. I think this lists most of them, but there might be some not on there. Better check out that Ryufag's user page since they are usually listed there too.
Every series needs its Yamcha.
>ywn pick up Bell in a dungeon
>watch 1st episode
>don't even remember half the cast
who the fuck is the katana girl?
who the fuck is the guy the tank-kun name and his hoe?
who is this?
who is that?
such a lust for revenge
whoooooooooooooooooooo
I only remember two of the main fights in S1. I don't have the willpower to rewatch the entire S1. Who are these goddess? Except for Hestia and Ainz's crush. I remember them pretty ok
People really liked S1 though, also, back in early 2015 Yea Forums wasn't completely ruined yet so the shitposting was a little more thoughtful, for those that don't know, imagine an Yea Forums without youtubers, without reddit, without /pol/, no buzzwords other than the classics like "go back to Yea Forums" or "goback to Yea Forums", great, now I'm sad.
So what happens when you fuck a god?
You have sex.
>I don't have the willpower to rewatch the entire S1
then you don't need to be watching this. Go back to your normie anime of Onepeice and Naruto.
Just watch the recap episode.
I always took Danmachi as the cute anime version of Diablo, I guess that's why I liked it so much.
>ywn convince Bell that he needs to take his pants off while you upgrade his status
So where is this anime ending? With hoe ending?
Hopefully, Bell's departure to save Wiene
Punished Bell would be great
What does lesbian elf's butthurt sound like?
It's like a seashell except instead of the sea when you listen to an elf's butt you hear the forest.
So far Lefiya has been Bell's most groped waifu and about to replace Filvis to Bell into her best friend material
>4 minute Argonaut
i understand that it's a hero's strike, but will the charge time ever be reduced?
Spinoffs don't count, they've never even met in 15 volumes from the main story.
Reduced? If something, it's going to be increased. 4min is his current limit. The longer he changes the stronger it is. Level 5 will probably be 5min.
He doesn't have to charge to the limit.
When's this shit going to get good subs?
it had a good sub already
look for the quick fix sub
So why has the manga not progressed further than the anime?
July 23.
There's two sets of subs available. One is literally from Google Translate and the other is ripped from the Memoria Freese game and shoehorned into being "subs" for the movie. Neither are good.
The manga has been on hiatus for a year.
I swear to God an user a few threads back released a sub on a mega with proper timing and it makes sense
I want Ryuu to join Hestia Familia, confess to Bell and make passionate love to him in missionary position, with hand holding, finger interlocking and ear nibbling.
Freya would execute her.
>There are retards here that still think Bell is a good MC when he's a clueless edgelord most of the time that can't even get his shit together
God forbid to write a 14 year old as clueless and give him some time to develop while the story progresses. Current LN Bell can't be compared to anime Bell.
His supporter is very cute. For a dirty thief
Where are my Lefiya doujins anons, where are they?
Based. Just imagine if this is actually real. The best plot twist in fantasy anime ever
Give
moar
Lefiya
oh didn't think it worked that way
So is the movie cannon or the usual non-canon sidestory?
>clueless edgelord
He's literally the Paragon of Righteousness. Don't mistake determination for edginess
>Only show up like twice
>Be best girl anyways
How does she do it, Yea Forums?
are we watching the same show? The only edgy thing about bell is his red eyes
what the fuck is her problem?
yandere
consider filtering since4pass /./
She wants to fuck Bell, just like half of the city.
>without /pol/
since 2016 i see more faggots complaining about /pol/ than /pol/shit
because the pre-made responses that they spread are tiresome. I'd rather be called a retard or anything that has a length of words rather than one fucking work that makes no sense at all
>herd of minotaurs
but the amazons are not present
The difference between her and half of the city is that she has already fucked half of the city.
Trany
JAAAAAAAAMEEEEEEES
So, Yea Forums tell me, is Hestia virgin? As far as we know, most are not
Got 3/4 through season 1 this weekend before I realized Bell is supposed to be 14 years old and 5'5". Fucking kek, that's worse than all the typical isekai video game shit combined. I'm trying to skim through the rest of the episodes now but I don't care anymore. I'm checking the height and age of the MC before watching isekai from now on.
It's one thing in non-isekai anime set in high school where a young teenage boy is competing against other young teen boys. But in an high fantasy world where there are 25-30 year old guys and powerful king types to compete with, no fucking way this 14 year old is going to be doing anything other than training under an experienced man's wing and hoping - at best - for the attention of one girl his own age rather than every woman in the universe.
It will never be mentioned in the main story, nor does it accurately represent the characters at that point in the story(between S1 and S2). So basically secondary canon, below SO.
but user, he is special, he is zeus' son
In Greek myth she was
Half of the city needs to pick up their pace with fucking prostitutes then. Fucking amateurs I swear.
no
She gets killed this season
Any LN spoilers????
Did MC have sex already with Aiz on the LN?
She probably is because 1. Japs and 2. virgin goddess of the hearth
Nah, at best you'd get Ais and Bell leaning on each other while sleeping near a wall
Right balance of rough and cute
Grandchild*
everyone literally calls her a virgin goddess
He does have girls his age. Though if I remember correctly the closest to his age are Lili and Lefiya at 15. Ais is 16. The rest are above that.
Anyways, he's a nimble fighter so it makes sense he's that small.
Hestia is literally the Ultimate Virgin. Like, such a virgin that Zeus himself was like "holy shit, you are now the queen virgin".
>virgin goddess
lol no
You can't just have your characters announce how they feel. That makes me feel angry!
There were two other virgin goddesses though RETARDO!
>190594611
Hephaestus in (real) Greek mythology was Zeus' son but that didn't stop his wife Aphrodite from cheating on him constantly and ignoring him because he was ugly.
Being Zeus' son is not enough.
Just reminding everyone, Ryuu is 21 and is in love with a 14 year old.
This picture confuses my dick.
yes but she's the oldest and the first virgin
RETARD
No, even hefestio know the pleasure of the D.
Bell is cute though.
But he also got revenge
Goddess defining traits:
>Freya: whore
>Hestia: boobs
>Loki: drunkard lesbian
>Hephaestus: craftsman
Only one of them uses her skill instead of her body.
Hestia is Zeus's sister, while Artemis and Athena are his daughters. Thus Hestia is like that one NEET sister of his he's just really shocked exists since he screws everything in sight.
God imagine how disappointed he must be that she is cockblocking Bell constantly.
For the rape
B-But the dick always win.
Loki can't get laid because the female members are straight, though even Lefiya doesn't want Loki, and has a big familia so she must be doing something right. Not sure what, but something.
Is Loki a male or a female
This is critical info
You are the first virgin
RETARD
>loki and freya familia ontop
mediterraneanchads will trounce the norsecucks once again
Fuck off retard
trap reverse
I don't think you need to spoiler Greek mythology
bro you weren't supposed to point this out...
Yes.
I like it how this is aunt granny incest.
>tfw the author didn't went with an Alice Down the rabbit hole theme because Editor-san said so
dont bring up 3DPD gods when discussing 2D
>a nimble fighter
Ah yes, the nimble fighter archetype, saving grace of puny Japanese boys since 19XX.
Check out accounts of hand-to-hand fighting between U.S. Marines and Japanese soldiers during WW2 for an idea of how effective nimble fighters really are.
Come on user, who in this serie except mc, is still a virgin?
The prostitute, ironically
the virgin prostitute
why didn't loki just turn himself into a woman with bigger boobs?
What's your point
So yeah Zeus is fucking dead even though he is younger than Hestia. Hestia is his older sister who was pure but wants to fuck a midget version of Zeus.
???????????????????????????????????
Loki is a god that ccan change his sex whenever he wants. IN Norse Mythology he changed he sex once to give birth or something.
I think he was just reminding everyone that we're watching a 14 year old Japanese boy's fantasy
Nah bro this is a RPG Fantasy setting. Rogues have been stabbing through plate with tiny knives since classic DnD Pen&Paper.
He got fucked as a goose or something.
How do we fix DanMachi season 2?
Most of the men and women unironically. Anime be like that.
14 year old japanese boys apparently have good taste then
Get a second goddess to kill the goddess fucking with Bell. :)
Fucked a horse and gave birth to Sleipnir
Just pointing out I haven't seen a 21 year old woman and a 14 year old boy this involved since FF13.
More Lefiya
>men can't be raped by older women
He got fucked by a horse.
He gave birth to Odin's steed, Slepnir.
Not with the way Japanese write their men and women. The women are mentally damaged most of the time so rely on 14 year old boys for motivation and stability. It's insane.
Speaking of Lefiya, I wonder why the author still doesn't mention her in the main story. Just write a foreword or some shit like that which quickly explains her existence for those who aren't reading Oratoria.
wait i tought Loki was the one getting fucked by the horse
>He got fucked by a horse
Well I guess that's why her face looks like one in the Danmachi story.
Are there any translations on the internet?
Sure, but it's still elf years
She's not important enough to warrant a mention. Though considering all the buildup she has, she'll probably appear
Are those shorter or longer than human years?
Main novel up to volume 13 out of 15.
Oratoria novel up to volume 9 out of 12.
And the one and only volume from Ryu's spin-off.
Volume 14 and Oratoria volume 10 in October.
Why isn't Loki white if he/she fucks horses?
Aiz a cute!
More amazons
Does Aiz have sword autism?
No, just monster killing autism
It will have quite a lot of them in the second arc.
I feel like she would be a deadfish in bed
Buda took care of that
That is literally the best.
I really like this OP
He pushes her and Bell ship in the moboge alot
I only want my beautiful Tiona
I don't follow your logic here
You will see her training Bell pretty soon. Basically just knocking him around all day.
Literally the best
yay!
I WANT TO SAVE CASSANDRA FROM APOLLO AND THEN BELIEVE IN HER PREDICTIONS WHICH WILL MAKE HER HAPPY
Imagine a woman just laying there
not talking or anything
somebody who is a living onahole
Why not use an actual onahole at that point, it's just glorified masturbation.
What did they mean by this?
Because it isn't alive and I can't shame it.
What do you think they meant by this
They want to make some brown rabbit daughters.
yes, and? Hestia and Freyja are millions of years old.
jiiiiiiii
>Here lies Hestia
>She never scored.
sauce?
Someone spoil me the heck up or I'm gonna freak.
Who wins the Bellbowl?
So Bells knife is supposed to grow with him right? So how OP is the knife in the latest LN or do they continue to treat just like an ordinary weapon?
His relative. Incest end.
is there a difference between english and japanese memoria freeze? like difference in server or content besides language. which should I download.
He invested his own attack, Argo Vesta.
Basically, the knife is made out of Mithril which is apparently a good conduit for magic so he shoots his Firebolt into the knife and starts Arognaut. This results in him having a dual charge.
If you have seen the Oratoria anime, Bete's boots have a similar effect.
english version is censored
Okay, but the knife is supposed to get stronger right? That's just a mithril knife it sounds like
It grows with him and cuts better and has more endurance, etc. Otherwise it would have broken ages ago. It's linked to his Falna.
FUCK THAT. Getting the japanese one. Thanks for saving me, user. Really appreciate it.
Alright so it does do more damage so by the time he hits level 7 should be the sharpest weapon right?
I cant wait for it to become the new guaranteed replies
Not necessarily. You have to consider deep floor dungeon drops and also forged weapons from drops in mentioned floors as well.
It wouldn't surprise me if the knife broke at some point in the story.
It'll happen when Hestia dies
Ultimately, Tione's crush on Finn is one-sided and I don't know what the author will decide on in the end, but Finn and Lili may end up becoming a couple in the epilogue.
Finn is serious. He does not want to marry an Amazon. He wants a female halfing wife.
This is the reason why Finn doesn't even have a sexual or romantic attraction to an Elf Royalty like Riveria.
Mikoto never heard Take and Miach's talk with Bell over god human romance.
Mikoto would be crushed and heartbroken over Take's realistic and pragmatic approach toward god human romance.
Protip: Take revealed to Bell he has father zoned plenty of mortal girls already and it sounds like he has been doing this for hundreds of years.
Agreed.
I prefer if Bell got a longer weapon than a knife.
I just don't see a knife working on a Dragon.
Greek Heroes preferred swords, spears, clubs.
Knives were rarely used by Greek Heroes unless they managed to get a monster to fall asleep or become completely trapped.
Seriously, Bell needs to look more Ancient Greek instead of the super strange MMO armor he is wearing right now.
Has family killed by monster, sets off to kill it and is only level 3, ACTUALLY SUCCEEDED! how can a wolfy be so base????
I think the author knows it as well.
In the first (and second Mino fight he basically had a greatsword as a second weapon. And his current second knife is a long knife (35 cm).
He was also shown with a sword on the cover of volume 10.
I believe it will happen sooner or later.
>complaining about the based editor not allowing the girls to be used goods
Kill yourselves cucks, you don't deserve this series.
Ais is cute and only for Bell!
Bete is easily the best non-Hestia Familia, non-god male character.
>Finn and Lili may end up becoming a couple in the epilogue.
Our dear editor won't allow that, it would trigger Lilifags too, but if it were to happen it would be fair for Bell to get Tione as compensation.
Take is savage, he better drops it nice to Mikoto.
>it would trigger Lilifags too
those don't exist
If not for the editor, Ais would have been a former prostitute.
What the FUCK is Hestia's probleM??
Aisha is used goods and is one of the best females in the story.
Proof? only ishtar is a whore slut.
Looking forward to seeing her fight with Bell animated. Easily one of my favorite parts in the series, even with that cop out reveal with Haruhime's purity.
To be fair, if it wasn't for Bell's Aiz autism, he would have been fucked (figuratively) once he saw Freya.
To anyone who has been playing the mobile game a bit longer: Does time-limited on a unit mean that you can only gacha it during the even or that it will be deleted once the event is over?
To give a serious answer, at this point she realized that Freya is after Bell. She didn't understand Loki's advice at the Denatus at first, but later realized that Freya was interested in him. So it wasn't just her being her usually cockblocking self.
Honestly fuck the editor for that. I bet he thought the "she was such a spaz she didn't realize she didn't actually have sex at all!" thing was funny. But it just made all her angst over it completely laughable in hindsight.
Not to mention I'm pretty sure plenty of customers wouldn't care if she was passed out or not when they paid for her.
Bell looked awestruck because he was on the verge of realizing that his randomly occurring sense of being watched is coming from her, and Hestia thinks he's about to get mindfucked looking at a goddess of beauty
I don't know how any novel reader can like Lili when she actually rejects strong female adventurers even when they are Level 4.
I bet Lili would reject Ryu too.
She is going to think a Level 2 like herself can go down to the Deep while rejecting Level 4 Adventurers.
>Imagine liking a girl so much that not even the goddess of beauty can affect you
Why other girls even try?
It means you can only pull them from the event. Non time-limited units, on the other hand, get added to the general gacha pool after the event.
>freya is 35
>bell is 14
does anything else think this is fucking disgusting?
Miach's words were really sad though.
Miach: Romance with humans last only as long as a single heartbeat for gods.
She’s immortal, user. She’s millions of years old.
I would say a few tens of thousands.
Additionally, non-limited units from the general pool can be limit broken with prism bonds that you trade for with the Hero Medals and Flame Amulets from events, whereas limited units can only be limit broken with star bonds that you buy with gnome tickets.
*with dupes or with
You know, all the gods of danmachi have got me thinking. Just who is the first mover?
will danmachi go full jrpg and have yhwh as the final boss?
Been a long time since I read the novels, but didn't Freya notice that Bell wasn't enchanted by her at the party? I feel like the anime seriously undersold their meeting. Or maybe it wasnt until Ishtar before it was noted. Being immune to divine charm aint exactly something that should be glossed over.
Lili is LITERALLY perfect. Built for sex. None of the other girls even come close
no
This. Official best girl ranking:
Lili > Aiz > Syr >>>> the others >>>>> hestia
>Or maybe it wasnt until Ishtar before it was noted.
You were saying?
Excuse me, but you seem to have forgotten someone at the top of your list.
IIRC it was news to her when Ishtar told her. Bell drops his spaghetti around hot women in general anyway so it might not be that easy to tell that he's not actually charmed.
I'm sorry what? Hestia has the tits of a goddess (literally) and hips of a birthing machine. At best Lili is just an Onahole.
Thanks.
Lili can make her boobs and hips bigger then Hestia's though
why is lili such a slut? Can she not button her pants?
Lily can turn into pretty much every girl in the novel so your logic is flawed.
Are you gay, user?
I only watched S1, can i watch this or do i need to watch something else before? I think there was OVAs and more shit
I never said I didn't like it
Lili is definitive proof that Bell is a gay faggot for cocks
The ova was just a fanservice thing. Sword Oratoria just a spin-off and not really important other than knowing a bit more about some characters
She still can't match a Goddess s in bed.
How long until Bell adds elfmommy to his harem?
>does anything else think this is fucking hot?
ftfy
She is too old, a doujin of making her a mommy would be hot though.
it's been too long bro
i'm tired of the finn interactions, more elf cake please
Is Freya supposed to be evil? All she does is help Bell get better and even protects him at times.
Freya is a hideously attractive spider lurking in the background. You might think she's just kinda helping Bell out and pushing him along, but really it's more like she's fattening up a big, juicy fly.
Never enough elfcake
Retard here
Is Bell related to Zeus?
grandson
Adopted grandson.
If you mean to ask if Bell is a demi-god, then almost certainly no. He has almost certainly been influenced heavily by Zeus, though. Zeus was a horny motherfucker after all, makes sense that he would push his 'grandson' to chase some ass. He may be the ultimate reason for Bell's hackskills as well.
Bell still hasn't visited the city's graveyard to check out if there are any Zeus or Hera Familia Gravestones so we could get hints at Bell's parents.
Why? Also, Bell's face has been published in the city's newspaper. How come nobody reading the paper goes out and says aloud: Hey this kid has red eyes just like this famous adventurer so and so, 15 years ago!
He parents have been hinted at a couple of times. He and Aiz may have the same mother, Aria.
>He parents have been hinted at a couple of times.
literally when?
>He and Aiz may have the same mother, Aria
Fucking kek, Aiz is winning the Bellbowl just accept it.
It was nice to see Bell get beaten up again, it's been so long.
Will this NTR arc last long? I wanted comfy adventures, not seeing Bestia cucked.
No dungeoning/adventuring for the entire season. Sorry friend.
But there will still be hot-blooded action, just not as much as you may want.
Is this gonna be some Luke/Leia shit?
oh yeah this arc is where he gets beaten up by the amazons for training
Do they fug?
expect femdom or that kind of thing
Don't know yet. Though Aiz is older so their not twins.
The outline of his parents were seen in the LN and he once confused Aiz to be his mother.
>their
THEY'RE. that's it i need sleep.
I agree. Glasses are always a downgrade.
It just goes to show how terrible isekai is, doesn't it.
She was going to "devour" some random adventurer for information in the most recently translated volume.
I remember watching a couple episodes from the first season.
Does MC get the blonde autist girl or does this go full harem mode later on?
More girls fall for him but he doesn't do anything with them, and on top of that has a 99.999% chance of dying a virgin come the story's conclusion
No it hasn't, and I'm pretty sure Aiz would have been old enough to remember him
Not if their fathers were from different familias. Aiz also has some memory loss about her parents. Aiz's father from from Hera's familia, so that would mean Bel''s father was from Zues's familia.
Actually a shit girl please go away.
I like how every time Bell trains with Ais his stats go through the roof. He could reach level 6 in a couple of months if he was smart about it.
>E rank in all stats
>train with Ais for a week
>get SSS rank in all stats
>embark on harrowing adventure to level up
>repeat
Holy fucking shit, ryuu has Been endgame this while time.
Orna, aka most likely Tiona’s previous life.
Tiona is the flat amazon. You can tell them apart because the last letter of their name is their cup size.
>TionA
>TionE
You know the way out is just over there ---> Don't let the / hit your ass on the way out.
Hestia is literal dogshit.
Change my mind.
Hestia took Bell into her familia when no one else wanted him and ventured into the dungeon to save him and is thirsty for his dick. She also gave him a cool knife.
But I don't know if that's enough to change your mind because you're literally shit for brains.
Here are two girls that are objectively better than Hestia.
So in the Orion timeline Artemis is the BellBowl winner if I understood the ending properly?
I have 4 points in favor of Hestia, you have none for your shitty elf dykes. At least post a good elf like Lyu or even a half-good elf like Eina.
What's the latest translated volume? I found a batch that has up to vol 13 for DanMachi and 8 for Sword Oratoria. What's the recommended reading order including side stories?
Yes
I wish Artemis replaced Hestia, memeribbon is annoying.
One of them is dead now and the other is completely mind broken
Lefiya a cutie who deserves headpats!