Just wanted to draw cool and fun shit

he got lots of money, right?
bleach was one of the big three with naruto and op.

He's working on Sakura Wars now, a huge franchise in Japan in the last decade.

He does, but still, Bleach will never get a continuation through it's sister series Burn The Witch so we won't see anymore of his art any time soon.

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About to start reading Bleach, what am I in for?

He was cucked by his own whitespace background.

A very bad payoff. It actually declines massively with the whole Hueco Mundo arc. A lot of asspulls.

This.

Although, you will encounter some of the best characters of all time like pic related

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>reputation dies
>Black Clover and Jujutsu Kaisen have clearly been inspired by it
>Sega personally called him to design a game from their Japan favorite series

that's another thing, all the spanish. Me being from latam was too cringey to read those titles and terms. How do you guys cope with the usual engrish?

Around which chapter is that? I hope I don't end up doing what I did with Naruto and suffering it to the end even though I no longer enjoyed it

Ignore the faggots above literally no argument for Hueco Mundo being bad besides them saying it's similar to another arc. Also stop being Conservative and watch Bleach with dub. Amazing cast and godlike music.

>dub
Sorry, advice ignored

Your loss spic. Johnny Yong Bosch has a top tier voice.

>not watching Bleach's dub to hear Raiden as a perverted Teddy Bear

You're gonna miss out.

>americans calling others spic
lmao

There are no asspulls in Bleach speedreader

The death of his reputation is just fanfiction

It's not really a chapter, it's a slow decline. You first notice at the end of the HM arc how many things that were set up in the arc never had payoffs, then if you read it weekly like we did and had faith in the author at the time then you were waiting for a set amount of time for those things to have payoffs, and abandoned said hope at a point based on your degree of hope. Then the manga ends. Without payoffs. There asa only shipper payoff and only for one specific group because the supporting character all had basically confirmed ships or member of it ended up dying midway through. Thematic payoffs are non-existant and you could also argue that so are themes themselves (that aren't for 5 year old) and it ends with a very lame 11th hour final villain that's defeated in a very lame way.

I got bored during Hueco Mundo, but it wasn’t necessarily awful, just dragged. Soul Society arc is still one of my favorites in shonen.

>watched it/read it while it was still ongoing and being released little by little

You poor things.

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It's like Yu-Gi-Oh but everyone has a good haircut

My first made me cough a lot and i felt a slight urge to try another but it was outweighed by the desire not to cough like that again so even knowing it would get better it didn't seem worth it.

No idea how people say one is all it takes.

youtube.com/watch?v=-1yzoiUIGGs

Consider returning to the r/hellholeyoucamefrom.

I read the whole thing. I think it was mostly because the chapters were so low on content, It was hard to stop mid chapters. Plus the threads were fun.

I dropped it after Aizen was defeated.
I still followed the threads from time to time and I was planning on going back and re-reading the entire series from start to finish when it ended but I lost the drive to do that from browsing the threads when the final chapters came out.

Aizen should have died to Gin
what an amazing end that would have been
everything with Ichigo and Aizen was pure stupidity.

I remember people started getting disappointed and slowly dropping it after around chapter ~240 (in the pic related volume with quite a fitting title). So around the time the "set up" part of the second major arc ended and the "pay off" started. So the best advice is, if you'll notice you don't enjoy it for extended period of time after this, just drop, it won't get better for you. If you really need some sort of conclusion, read up until 423, it's not ideal, many stuff lacks resolution, fates of some characters are unknown, but the actual finale isn't any better (aside of the fact you get to know who boned who and can see their kids).

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In the end, Gin's stuff was pretty damn pointless, wasn't it? Aizen might have evolved, but he still was useless against Ichigo and needed to evolve again. The only result of his actions was Aizen not killing Ichigo's friends I think. After all these years of speculation and mystery, having him be killed one chapter after the anticipated betrayal was one of the biggest disappointments in Bleach, and that is telling something.

hahaha Bleach fag is a dub fan.Shit taste all around.

One of the best brown semen demons ever created and other cool characters with cool designs.

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Awful taste, fellas.

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Monotony. It reads a lot better in full than it did week-by-week, but the series overall reads a lot like a more bloated Saint Seiya. Even if you can find joy in the tedium the story doesn't really deliver on its more interesting ideas.

ITT: zoomers who never read/watched YYH

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>not cropped

nice try I see nipple there

The irony of your post eludes you.
>It reads a lot better in full than it did week-by-week
Welcome to anything ever.

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>Welcome to anything ever.
Maybe, but Bleach exemplifies this more than most.

>zoomahhh
Bleach is Millennial bonanza.

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this isnt on gelbooru wtf

The final arc was god awful, ichigo's new sword that got destroyed 1 chapter after he got it, too bad that it took like 1 year to finish the sword in the first place.
The stupid jobber fights against the "most powerful shinigami ever".
The antagonists were also fucking awful and everything was dragged out for far too long.

Many things aren't, search every place, even western dens

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Honestly, while Bleach reads better in volume format, it's still somewhat awkard with Kubo's tendency of more-or-less repeating the end of the last chapter as the start of the next one sometimes. The most ridiculous example of this was in Deicide with one chapter cutting to Ichigo/Isshin on the last page, then basically repeating the same page from different perspective in the beggining of the next one and then cutting back to Karakura. What was Kubo even thinking?

its not on r34 either

>new yoruichi art
I Can't Believe It's Not Enzo!®

I was all in on the anime until the Bount arc killed my enthusiasm in a single episode. I tried picking it back up when it finally started on Namek but the censorship . I downloaded one more up to see how the anime handled Nel because I love goofy fucking kid Nel but that was that.

Manga-wise I picked it up starting with Namek but pretty much stopped giving a shit somewhere in there, and basically gave up outright when the Winter War happened and characters were suffering comically fatal wounds left and right and not dying, and then some others just died because lol fuck you. That said I was all in on the Fullbringer arc because it was weird and different and actually kind of horror-ish for a minute, but tuned back out early into the final arc, only checking in when Yea Forums pointed out some ridiculous characters like Mask or Cookiebones and Yoruichi going full catgirl.

Damn I'd have given anything for the Fullbringer arc changes to have stuck

Fullbring was one of the best arcs in the series I think, at least up until the captains showed up.

Fullbring was JoJo-lite, Fullbrings are basically Stands.

I didn't mind the G13 showing up to clean up their mess, but that reset button sword stab they gave Ichigo was utterly disappointing. Speedfreak Ichigo is best Ichigo and he only ever did that in like two fucking bankai fights before he devolved into just spamming GT everywhere. His Fullbringer powers suggested a return to speed but it was all for nothing

>Fullbring was JoJo-lite
A bit, but the overall story was more focused because it didn't fall into an abyss of 1v1 fights. Even Ichigo was a little more interesting in it. Then the captains show up and everything is as per usual, complete with GETSUGA TENSHOU. Ichigo becoming a shinigami again was predictable, as was seeing the Gotei 13 again eventually, but the Fullbring arc felt a little wasted to me. Even as is I still think it's one of the best arcs in the series.

Trolling.

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Yeah, Kubo always fucks up by falling back on cheap shonen tropes.

More like he broke his fucking hand from the stress.
Kubo won't return to weekly manga unless he feels like taking another hospital trip.

Kubo can't keep up with a weekly schedule, he needs to go monthly, same goes for others in JUMP

>More like he broke his fucking hand from the stress.
Shoulder. Dude ended up needing rotator cuff surgery or something which is not a joke. Can't imagine what the fuck he did to cause that

Right before the Fullbring arc ended.

What the fuck, did he try a forbidden mangaka technique or some shit? How do you draw so hard your fucking shoulder explodes? When did this happen?

He just leaned on the shoulder for for hours most of the year for 15 years.
It's a misunderstanding. He didn't finish the series because of his injury. He didn't even know it was this serious until he finished. He also mentions how his health only really got bad after the serialization ended and the adrenaline let go. Both of these are in the AssClass author interview.

I don't know, it really dragged in the first third or so. It only really took off once the Tsukishima mindfuck began, and went to shit with Ichigo regaining his powers. So it was really good for around 10 chapters. Also "we could have done it quicke and simpler, but it wouldn't be fun" from Ginjo was too much of usual Kubo.

The fact I consider the Fullbring arc one of the best says more about Bleach being rather shit than the arc being especially good.

Well, depends on how you define arcs, and which ones are also among the best for you.

I don't know about you, but for me the Fullbringer arc felt like a filler arc, Ichigo unlocks a new random ability for a few episodes and then it goes away, along with getting his powers back and act like nothing ever happened later.

>Ulqiorra and edgy Ichigo
But that's the foundation of BLEACH itself. Ulquiorra was the original villain in the one-shot and Orihime is always the main girl.

Dropped after peak Bleach, the Aizen reveal at the end of soul society arc. I knew it was only going to go downhill from there so I just stopped reading.

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When did it all go so wrong

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i don't remember when i dropped the anime but it was past episode 300

manga was enjoyable to the end

You are a wizard then because you were totally right.

Fuck this takes me back so hard, you have no idea, to think Bleach would fall into obscurity as soon as it ended.

Well, Fullbringers did return in TYBW arc, but it looked more like he tailored the situation so they could appear than really organically included them. He even put a movie reference in there. But the end stages of the arc looked like this in general. Ken-chan, Shiro-chan and Byakkun also get an immortal whipping boy so they can showcase the power ups Oda didn't manage to include anywhere, Isshin arrives alongside Ryuuken just to be there without doing anything with Ryuuken doing his one thing (very analogous situation to Fullbringers), Grimmjaw's contribution after 200 chapters of hype is one backstab, Neriel's is saving Urahara and co. off-screen...

I think Bleachfags in general believe he had some plan, but had to rush through it due to health issues/editorial pressure, but I think the truth is different. He had a lot of more or less vague ideas, but never really went around to think through how exactly they should be fitted in the story. End of arrancar arc really is similar to the quincy one if you think about it. You have no idea what happened to lots of characters who just disappeared, giant supposedly super strong enemy is taken out anticlimatically, final fight is rather short compared to other Ichigo's main ones (and won via a literal plot device), lots of plotlines never go anywhere...

I wouldn't say it's better than the first arc or Soul Society, but it's probably on par with the early arrancar stuff and better than anything after it. Its relative brevity does a lot for it, even if it comes off as much of a waste as the arcs that follow.

What about Turn Back The Pendulum? I think it was the last part of Bleach I really loved. Even though it doesn't quite fit with what was established previously and kinda destroyed plot possibilities for Vizards in hindsight.

We have this thread every day

It was okay, but it didn't matter all that much. The Vizards in general did not matter that much, as it turned out.

>things that were set up in the arc never had payoffs
You headcanonfag?
>Thematic payoffs are non-existant and you could also argue that so are themes themselves
Actually brainlet

>Fullbrings are basically Stands.
No they aren't, stop looking for MUH JOJO REFERENCES where there is none

>posting soi fon as a picture when dissing on yuroichi
Soi Fon would kill you for such a thing friend.

Help me here, did Kubo or Masashi Kudo draw this? And yeah, it's from ST

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user that's obviously Kubo

Looks more like Kudo to me for some reason.

Look at her face and think of Orihime, she looks almost the same.

That's not the point, Kudo can draw in Kubo's style. Kubo did the character design for this game but Kudo is also working on it.

>. He also mentions how his health only really got bad after the serialization ended and the adrenaline let go
His health was already pretty bad before the end of the manga, to the point he was seriously thinking in ending the manga, until he read that letter from that ill child. Kubo himself told this on his Twitter. Probably he continued with the manga doing an effort, but I doubt he could bare it much more. The Bleach end was clearly rushed.

>The Bleach end was clearly rushed.
I think so as well. I think the six nakama were suppose to get a final volume cover each meaning we might of had at least enough material to cover 4 more volumes. Why else would Renji get the second to last one despite not doing much in it?

>His health was already pretty bad before the end of the manga, to the point he was seriously thinking in ending the manga, until he read that letter from that ill child. Kubo himself told this on his Twitter. Probably he continued with the manga doing an effort, but I doubt he could bare it much more. The Bleach end was clearly rushed.
The situation you're describing happened 5 years before the manga ended. What I'm talking about is what he said about his health right before it ended. So apparently he got better. Unless there was a mistranslation involved.

I finished the anime and then picked up from where the manga left off.
Dropped it as soon as i realized they were just doing Espada again but with quincies.

brainlet

>Why else would Renji get the second to last one despite not doing much in it?
The cover choices are sometimes weird. Yoruichi got a volume she didn't really appear in I think, and Matsumoto got one where she has maybe few pages. Maybe he just wanted to give him one as it was the last opportunity? He's also the only person accompanying Ichigo when he goes for Yhwach and the one training with Ichigo (while the rest is unconcious). Kubo seemed to be rather fond of him in that arc.

Enjoy having your shit series relegated to gachashit forever.

Enjoy having yours never finish!

The volume covers/chapters per volume got weird near the end. Volume 71 has Nemu on the cover, despite only 1 chapter being about the Pernida fight and the rest being Shunsui vs Lille

>doing Espada again but with quincies
Explain how

Will anything top this outfit Mayuri wore?

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That's true. I just thought with Uryu getting one then Renji that the other four would follow.

I love Ichigo

Dude has to be kubo's favorite. His appearances were the best.

>The situation you're describing happened 5 years before the manga ended
He didn't say the exact date of when he got the letter. He simply said that his health started deteriorating in the 10th year. But it started, he had to be in that situation 2 or 3 years to arrive to the thinking of finishing the manga, and then he received the letter and decided to continue a little more.

>that not so subtle analogy between him and all the Japanese WW2 human experimenters

He's even hot without the makeup and outfits on too.

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We know you do Aizen

kubo literally did cosplay of him so yea. you can tell which characters are his favorite

I can see why he is, Mayuri was the best character in the series after all.

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But it'd make no sense to say he didn't feel sick until he ended the manga when it came to him all at once if he was in battle against his detoriating health and hehad to rush things because of this, right? In the twitter story Kubo describes his crisis and how he manage to overcome it, not what happened around the time of the manga's end (which he describes in aforementioned interview).

If'n he was smart he would have just done the art/manga adaptation for a good series of novels so he didn't have to write anything. If he was ascended he would have just started drawing porn like Masamune.

Working for a weekly manga obviously took a toll on him. I feel like he is going to take the Toriyama route and never going to work on a weekly manga again, Toriyama also was sick of working on DB.

Kubo's problem was that he was always more interested in designing characters than developing their personality. Although if you're going to argue that giving Orihime a big set of tits is synonymous with personality, then I guess he did X'D

'Whats that? You say I got away with everything? How wonderful!'

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>Working for a weekly manga obviously took a toll on him
It obviously did. Still there's no reason to assume it made direct impact on how manga ended.
> I feel like he is going to take the Toriyama route and never going to work on a weekly manga again, Toriyama also was sick of working on DB.
Well, weekly serialization is for young people, you probably can manage this as twenty-something y.o., but it has to get more and more difficult.

What, you've never read Yu Yu Hakusho?

>X'D
Leave

No one ever mentioned his thousands of crimes against quincy throughout the arc, right?

His female characters are still better than say, Kishimoto's at least they are somewhat likeable and don't look like menexcept for Rukia

His experiments were for the benefit of the gotei

Demonic hollows, plot about losing one's soul, split personalities, spirits, crazy ass soulreaper warriors, hot bitches and shipping wars, only a few cool backstories, ancient it-was-all-planned mastermind shit, a clear rivarly between oldstyle feudal type hierarchy vs modern Tokugawa Edo (Hueco Mundo vs Soul Society) and a shit lot of fights. It peaks with Hueco Mundo which is by far its best arc. The stakes are also the highest in it and death is pretty much on every characters door. It has the best atmosphere delivery as well and the best plot, it's no surprise that it's the only arc in Bleach that got ripped off in Dark Souls for the purpose of worldbuilding (together with Berserk). After it it starts declining but you'll still find a few enjoyable themes and fights.

>Basically anime Mengele, experimented with the Quincy
>But the Quincy are actually nazis

What did Kubo mean by this?

Orihime does have a personality though. Unless you think a female character needs to be written one specific way.

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Quincy's proved they needed destruction.

He didn't say he didn't fee sickl until the end of the manga, he simply said his health got even worse when it ended, probably because he was enduring. The interview:

>—- You were able to keep that up as far as 10 years until your physical condition deteriorated?

>Kubo: That’s right. I was able to keep drawing as usual for as many as 10 years, after the decline in my health, I was conscious about managing my physical condition. From then on, I was trying not to catch a cold.

>Matsui: It’s a peculiar manner of speaking but, when I was younger, there was a part of me that thought I was invincible. When I got sick one time, I lost confidence in that thinking “I was wrong…” (laughs).

>Kubo: Ah I see. I’d even catch colds while I was still young, I would take medicine and then sleep for 6 hours to cure it. I thought my health became bad in the mornings. I felt like I’d get better in the evenings and do some work, but gradually that became ineffective.

>—- That’s sad Isn’t it…

>Matsui: The pressures of doing a weekly series is truly staggering, so that heavy pressure has replaced any sort of cold for me. Well, in my case, my series did not go on as long as Kubo sensei’s, so thankfully there hasn’t been any substantial decline in my health… I am not confident about whether or not I can draw in the same way in a subsequent series.

>Kubo: It gradually gets worse.

>—- Is it an age related thing?

>Kubo: Well, during a series, adrenaline rises to the surface, and you no longer understand poor physical health. So I end up getting colds when things like double issues happen.

>—- There was talk of such a thing in your last conversation…

>Kubo: This time, when this lengthy series ended, my health became worse as expected.

>—- What happened?

>Kubo: It felt like everything until now came at once!

Kubo has said different things since the manga ended. I'm pretty sure in the JET art book interview, he declared that his health really wasn't a major issue.

Well, looks like I remembered it wrong. Still, he says he was able to work with health issues catching up when he wasn't. Doesn't seem to align with "Kubo had to rush the ending because of his health" that is basically accepted as truth in parts of the fandom. He also at no point mentions it affecting the ending. When Narita asks him about skipping Soul King story wasn't included in the manga, it's also not the answer he gives. So I believe my original point stands.

Never strictly "dropped" the manga, read it as it was released 1 chapter a week from roughly the Ulquiorra fight till the end.

I will say after Ulquiorra died, and to a lesser extent after Aizen got defeated my interest tanked. It was fun to read it every week with Yea Forums, people had all these brilliant theories, and the memes were hilarious.

Never really watched the anime except for randomly seeing it on Adult Swim at night and having nothing better to do so would watch. But since I had read the manga, I didn't really care. I don't understand people who will read the manga and still watch the anime. Unless it's a godtier work (and no, your favorite LN adaption is not a godtier work) it just feels like a waste of time to watch an "animated" adaption of a story you already intimately know

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oispa viinaa

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>he declared that his health really wasn't a major issue.
I think he said that about his current health.

I remember during the Bleach last arc Kubo had various pneumonias, he wrote about it in his twitter, that is serious illness, and it's rare to suffer various and more at his age

>I think he said that about his current health.
No. He was talking about his health during the course of the manga.

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Why did Bleach end up getting so many top tier OPs and EDs?

>He also at no point mentions it affecting the ending
Because he has also stated that Ichigo's child meeting with Rukia's child has been his planned ending since always. What was affected wasn't the ending, but what came before it.

But he doesn't mention this either. Not in AssClass guy interview, not twitter story, not in JET (as far as I know). Not even when asked about specific thing he skipped. I don't think he even expresses any regrets in term of how the last arc came to be at any point.

The way he wrote on his twitter about his health problems is hard to believe it didn't affect the manga and all what he wanted to write, he was desperate:

>But his health started deteriorating in the 10th year.

>His doctor told him it was just a cold. In the past, he would get better in a day or so. But this suddenly changed. He’d be bedridden for a week. Whenever JUMP Magazine would have a double issue [and therefore be on a break the next week], he’d stay in bed the entire week to rest. But after a while, that stopped working too. Whenever he thought he was better, he’d get a cold again. No matter what he did. It was an endless cycle.

>He felt pathetic. He felt he was failing as a mangaka. A mangaka is someone who delivers a manga with a set quality within a set time. So should he really continue the series? Should he stop? But the story isn’t finished yet. What should he do? How should he end it? He thought about this every, every, every single day.

>But then he got a letter. One letter. It had no name or address on it.

He didn't say he overcame his problems of health. I think he simply endured it more time because the letter raised his spirits and gave him more energy to endure it.

But, anyhow, it's clear Bleach final is rushed
Even, there were various subjects that were announced befored the final arc that Kubo was going to put in the last arc that finally we didn't see, like Yoruichi, Urahara ann Tessai's relationship, or that Kubo wanted to carefully draw about how Rukia felt upon becoming a liutenant.

I wonder how he feels about IRfags pestering him on Twitter still

"What will be revealed in the final arc!?"
"Yoruichi and Urahara, who have been permanently expelled by the onmitsukido, and their relationship.
Yoruichi and Urahara, have been permanetly expelled to the living world. What is their secret past and bond together!?"

This was going to be revealed in the last arc, and now we know this is what Matsubara and Narita, the novels writers, have asked Kubo to draw it someday.

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Tessai was mentioned too in other ad

>The way he wrote on his twitter about his health problems is hard to believe it didn't affect the manga
It surely did, but not necesserily in such a direct way as "I'm to sick to continue, gotta end in 6 chapters". More like accelerated creative burnout etc.
>Even, there were various subjects that were announced befored the final arc that Kubo was going to put in the last arc that finally we didn't see, like Yoruichi, Urahara ann Tessai's relationship, or that Kubo wanted to carefully draw about how Rukia felt upon becoming a liutenant.
Which doesn't mean there's an outside factor like health or editors that forced the quick ending. It wouldn't be the first time Kubo wasn't able to fit in a story he planned to include (Ashido's story is another known example), sometimes writing just works this way. Arrancar arc also has things that didn't go anywhere (like Renji's question to Urahara or Orihime's plan to erase Hogyoku).

"Q: How does Rukia feel having taken on Kaien's old position?
Kubo: I want to carefully draw how Rukia felt upon becoming a liutenant, but doing so would take up many chapters, so I've decided to do it through flashbacks."

I remember this was one of the things that I most wanted to see in the last arc, especially because as they were going to be flashbacks I wanted to see Rukia with his old hairstyle again, it was a great disappoinment that this finally not appeared.

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>like Renji's question to Urahara or Orihime's plan to erase Hogyoku
But that was speculation of people thinking this was going to be important, not a fact.

Kubo specifically said he was going to draw about Urahara and Yoruichi's past and Rukia's flashback, in the last arc. Why did he end the manga if he hadn't still written about this? I doubt his manga was canceled, and if his health was good he could have continued more time.
It's clear Bleach left many things unfinished, or very briefly explained.

>Renji's question to Urahara
Refresh my memory, what was that?

>But that was speculation of people thinking this was going to be important, not a fact.
The whole reason Renji went to Urahara was getting his answers. And Orihime says she wants to do this and it's never addresed again. It's very hard for me to believe he didn't have any sort of plan with these things.
>The way he wrote on his twitter about his health problems is hard to believe it didn't affect the manga
Maybe he changed his mind, maybe he didn't find any place suitable to include these. Random scenario (based on nothing of course): say Kubo orignally wanted Rukia's big fight moment to include Kaien and becoming lieutenent flashback, but in the end he decided to make it about her bond with Byakuya. Did it go like this? Probably not. But could it? Well, yeah, like millions of other scenarios. Not the first nor the last time an author lost scenario he originally wanted to include.

At the start of the Arrancar arc, Renji went to live with Urahara saying he wants some answers from him. He agrees in exchange for him becoming his choreboy and training Chad. But we never learn what Renji wanted to know.

>implying Aizen would let Orihime try it
Not even memeing. Kubo gave Orihime that goal so she wouldnt look like a complete damsel resigned to her fate, literally a case of "the intention is what matters" even if she was set to fail from the start

Of course she would fail. But she never even attempts it. Nothing comes out of it. She doesn't mention it later.

Try 20 years ago.

Grimmjow!

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Did the mango just go on for too long, or was writing the problem?

The authors inability to actually progress the story reading to several repeated introductions of large new fashionable character groups.
And each time it just leads to more character bloat, since Kubo has limitations as a writer.
The best part of Bleach is the setup: A LOT of things are foreshadowed once characters start showing up, and so is the entire power level faggotry system.

>gets cucked by shonen and reputation dies with his series
>Left on his own terms and designed characters for a popular game
Ichirukfags are still seething and butthurt I see.

Kubo has been often talking of his declining health to the point of thinking to end the manga. Bleach final was rushed, he left out things he said he was going to include. I think this points more to he ended Bleach because of his health than anything else

>new characters are introduced
Literally every story ever. By what metric does bleach have too many? Its contemporaries had as many, if not more, characters.

Hypothetically Kubo could have changed things, but in this case, what he said he was going to include in the last arc, he had to be already decided and sure about it to be able to tell it in interviews, because if he wasn't still sure, he probably wouldn't tell about it, and he probably already knew in what part of the manga he was goinng to tell it.

Kubo already told Matsubara and Narita, the novels writers, how is Urahara and Yoruichi's past. From Narita's postscript of the Can't fear you own world novel:

"-When Matsubara-san and I heard the story of Urahara and Yoruichi directly from Kubo-sensei, we immediately told him, "Kubo-sensei must draw this someday!" "We want to read it in manga form!"

>and designed characters for a popular game
While the developers specifically approached him, he didn't apply or anything.

>But that's the foundation of BLEACH itself. Ulquiorra was the original villain in the one-shot and Orihime is always the main girl.
What? No. It was just her dead brother. The story was adapted almost completely for the early comic, she just didn't die at the end and Rukia wasn't 3 inches tall.

>it was being shonenized
It is a fucking shounen from start to finish you mongoloid.

Actually it was her father in the one shot

>I think Bleachfags in general believe he had some plan, but had to rush through it due to health issues/editorial pressure, but I think the truth is different. He had a lot of more or less vague ideas, but never really went around to think through how exactly they should be fitted in the story. End of arrancar arc really is similar to the quincy one if you think about it. You have no idea what happened to lots of characters who just disappeared, giant supposedly super strong enemy is taken out anticlimatically, final fight is rather short compared to other Ichigo's main ones (and won via a literal plot device), lots of plotlines never go anywhere...
Seems to be pretty true. I personally feel like his editors kept fucking with him. I am 100% convinced Icekid and Momo were meant to die to Aizen but their popularity made them veto it. And once that happened, no one remotely popular ever fucking died no matter how brutally they got fucked up.

I'd still love to see his early notes for Bleach, considering you have shit like Shinji showing up in Chapter 1's fucking splash art. I'm almost certain Grand Fisher was being patched up by Aizen and Gin, but once he finally got ready to follow that plot arc shit got so different he had to make Di Roy and Aisslinger to use the designs. Bleach is full of "Oh shit I completely forgot about these motherfuckers" moments. I mean the entire last arc was Kubo remembering he was going to make the Quincy/Shinigami feud a big deal before all that other bullshit got in the way.

>no one remotely popular ever fucking died no matter how brutally they got fucked up.
Are you kidding me? He killed Gin and Ulquiorra off in the same arc.

>I'm almost certain Grand Fisher was being patched up by Aizen and Gin
No, Aizen wasn't a bad guy until the chapter he "died" in.
Remember the "Masked" interview? The one with hidden words? There's really no way to make it work with the current info. It implies TBTP 10th division captain is alive and a known character. Possibly it was going to be Isshin, but Kubo decided to change his timeline (as it would be inconsistent with Shinji not knowing his reiatsu).

Last arc went for 4 years, plenty of time to change your mind. And that he knows Yoruichi's and Urahara's past doesn't mean he knew where to put it. It could have been for Askin fight, but in the end it wasn't about their relationship, contrary to Mayuri's and Shunsui's fights. Would it be impossible to scrap some stuff for Kubo to include it if he was on a time limit? I don't think so, maybe he just didn't think it would fit the story (I think Askin being an actual character with actual personality was an obstacle to making it flashback excuse contrary to the aforementioned fights).

Shokugeki no Soma got three epilogue chapters despite being much, much, much less successful/popular than Bleach, but in JUMP GIGA meaning it's run wouldn't end in WSJ. Same thing happened with Gintama if I'm not mistaken. Both series never sold as high as Bleach did at it's prime, and even the low sales of Bleach are still very good. I wonder if Kubo was offered a similar deal, meaning Bleach moving to JUMP GIGA. Maybe Kubo was too prideful, and wanted the final chapter in the same magazine it started. I don't really buy the health situation since he's said different things over the three years.

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I wanted to quantify that with "good" but very rarely a good character would also randomly die. Still, horrifically fatal injuries mean nothing in Bleach until they randomly do for story reasons

You don't want to believe Kubo because you'd have to change your opinion of him, simple as.

Name one time.

Being moved to another magazine is more pathetic than getting axed, at least Bleach has a good run and it was the final arc

Ryohgo Narita's afterword:

"I am planning to end BLEACH in a year or two."

-When Kubo-sensei told me so, I laughed and said, "Haha, you're joking!

-But when Kubo-sensei received a formal announcement from the editorial department, stating 'end it in one year', I felt like it was the end of an era. But then the 'Novelization Plan' was launched and Matsubara Makoto and myself were called upon to participate in this very important project.

-Matsubara-san and I spoke to Kubo-sensei directly at a meeting; about the novels.

-What about this character's past?

-What will happen in this part?"

-What's going on in this part?

-What about the remaining mystery in the world of BLEACH?

-When I received the answer from Kubo-sensei's own mouth, it had a tremendous impact on me. And I blurted out, "Why didn't you draw the part about the past of the Rei-o and the nobles?"

(Kubo apparently told Narita that the shift in focus would have had a detrimental effect upon the way the manga was going on towards the end. The last few battles were being drawn at the time in the manga. And Kubo wanted the focus to remain on Ichigo till the end.)

Gotta admit I'm trying to think here and the only ones that come to mind are Yamamoto and his lieutenant. I sort of count Gin as good but that's a stretch

Well shit

(But apparently, Narita was extremely attracted to whatever revelation Kubo told him about.)

-"Is it ok if I included some of your revelations in the story? You won't get angry, right?"

-"Rather than getting angry, Kubo-sensei delved deeper into the lore, giving advice about the characters we all know about; then introducing the new characters. Thus progressed the story about the malice of the nobles and Shuhei Hisagi was chosen as the protagonist."

(As we know from the JET interview, Kubo apparently had great pleasure designing Shuhei's bankai. Narita says he's the biggest fan of BLEACH. He hopes that the world of BLEACH will continue to expand in some form in the future.)

(You all might like what comes after this)

-When Matsubara-san and I heard the story of Urahara and Yoruichi directly from Kubo-sensei, we immediately told him, "Kubo-sensei must draw this someday!" "We want to read it in manga form!"

Anyone has that Chinese's New Year pic with Aizen and Ichigo, asking for a friend

>Narita says he's the biggest fan of BLEACH
I believe him

Nvm found it

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I could be wrong, but I think this was covered in the death save the strawberry novel.

>-But when Kubo-sensei received a formal announcement from the editorial department, stating 'end it in one year',
Doesn't this basically confirm that Bleach did in fact get the axe or something similar to it? He was literally told to end in one year meaning he didn't end the series on his terms.

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Now that is some very good news. Do you have a link to a copy of the entire event?

I'm too lazy to look for that now, but I'm absolutely sure it's a mistranslation.

He didn't end series on his terms anyway. He was lost in the weeds for years and to the point that even the editors knew it. If anything it probably got him to at least do something.

I do like reading these anecdotes that he's still passionate about the wider universe even if he was spinning his wheels on the comic

But before that Kubo had told Narita he was thinking to end the series in 1 year or 2. So Kubo was the one who decided to end it, and then it was when the editorial asked him to end it in 1 year.

No, Kubo said he wanted to draw about it, not someone else