Boku No Hero Academia

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>My senses are getting sharper.
>What do I want to create?
>It's as if everything has happened just yesterday...
>You said it yourself, it's not...
>Everything is clear now.
>All I really want...
>is to destroy.

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>Shiggy with black eyeliner, glowing and half a hand from now on.

>And disappear.
>A world without creation has no future!
>Since when do we need... a future?
>Much obliged... I am really sorry for all the trouble he caused.
>I promise... I'll make him see the way!

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Shiggy looks so fucking dry all the time
Drink some water goddamn
Use lotion

What happens to the dog?

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>Chapter 235: Shimura Tenjo: Origin
>He got into trouble for pretending to be a hero again?!!
>UAAAAAAH! LET GO OF ME!!!
>Stop, Kotarou! He doesn't need violence!
>NOOOO! STOOOP!!!
>If you want me to stop, then start to listen.
>I DON'T WANT TO! FATHER, STOP!!!
>In our house, we had rules. In truth, just one rule my father created.
>KOTAROU!

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I think we can safely say that Boku no Hero will never amount to anything that disquinshes itself from every other shounen schlock inexistence.

RIP Potential
2014-2019
Taken too soon

>on his way to make Deku

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>DUDE VENOM LMAO
Fuck this Westaboo faggot.

don't be mean, he has an allergy

>Any talk about heroes was prohibited.
>Shimura Tenko [5 years old]
>Don't let him enter until he asks for forgiveness.
>But dinner is ready... furthermore his allergy is getting worse!
>Rules are rules.
>Don't you think you're being too hard lately?!
>His quirk hasn't appeared at that age... if he doesn't end up with one it will end badly, you know that.
>Dreams about heroes only end in unhappiness.

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Shiggy was 5, Deku was already one year old.

I guess Hori is following Araki.

The dog will be disintegrated.

>Don't you agree, father, mother?
>...............
>My father was a business man that made a fortune early. There he constructed a house that enormous house and invited his parents in law to live with him.
>Hey, hey, no scratching, okay?
>But it itches.
>It's a shame that we still don't know the reason behind your allergy...
>I only scratch when I'm at home.
>Hey, Tenko... do you stilll... want to be a hero?
>Yes.
>Mikkun usually always lets me outside. Tomo too.

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Sometimes I forget Deku is 16 and not 15

good

>I asked Mikkun if we could play together, right? I asked him if he wants to play hero with me, right? It was so fun.
>And afterwards, he said: "Ten, you're the same as All Might"!
>He said it's because he thinks I'm cool and played with him even after dad prohibited it!
>Hey, mom, why doesn't father let me play?! Is it because he hates me?! Is it because I still don't have a quirk?!
>It's obvious your father doesn't hate you... It's only that... he knows...
>How difficult it is to be a hero.
>Children...
>Can be incredibly selfish and sincere.

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Now Shiggy's family is established. The disaster is coming soon.

>LoV going full retard 'everything must burn' mode
welp fuck this shit. nothing more pathetic or uninteresting than a 'burn them all' villain against an all good can do no wrong hero

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>The words of an adult are absolute.
>That's why I wanted to hear all of you.
>All I wanted was that one phrase...
>The house that my father built...
>continued slowly denying me.

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Not letting children express themselves is the worst thing you can do. Regardless, Tenko's family was filled with cowards. If someone did that to my kid they'd catch these hands.
Fucking nips and their culture that allows abuse like this to happen.

>It's a secret!
>It seems she's our grandmother!
>She was a heroine!
>Hana, why are you showing me this...
>Even with father having said all that... everything will be fine, because I'll always cheer for you, Tenko!
>Let's keep it secret from father and we'll turn into hero siblings!
>YEAH!!!

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>AFO finds shiggy
>come on my boy, you can be
>a villian

>those old people are his parents
>Nana is his mother though
I dun understand

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I know this is a joke but AFO is actually terrible to Shigaraki

AFO truly is a bastard for what he's done to the world

>That day was very hot and humid.
>Grandma was a heroine!
>We had a hero in our family!
>Hey, Mon! Now I feel that...
>I can overcome any challenge that comes my way!
>Ow?!!
>?

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Shiggy's sis is cute desu. I hope she is still alive at the current timeline.

It says he invited his mother and father in law to live with him, meaning they are his wife's parents, not his.

disregard i suck cocks

But why call your in laws mother and father

>TENKO!!!
>YOU ENTERED MY STUDY, DIDN't YOU?!!
>The after-rain humidity still in the air...
>You saw, didn't you?
>Pierced my irritated skin like a needle.
>The itchiness began from the depths of my stomach.

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disintegration was originally deku's quirk, calling it now.

>UAAAAAH! But Tenko... Tenko said he wanted to see it!!!
>Children can be incredibly selfish...
>and sincere.
>KOTAROU!!!
>BARK BARK BARK
>That person wasn't your grandmother.
Also
tfw your sister sells you out

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>why call your in laws mother and father
sometimes I forget people here know nothing about how humans interact

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I wonder what did Nana do to make Shiggy's dad this mad.

now THAT is the look of some serious fucking child abuse

>She was a demon that threw away her own son.
>Listen, a hero is nothing but...
>HELP!
>Don't just watch...
>Please...
>Somebody...
>Save me!!!
>Somebody that hurt their own family...
>ANYONE!!!
>To help others.
>This house...

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If only you knew how ̶b̶a̶d̶ things really are.

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sudden english?

>Was built by my father.
>Forgive me for abandoning all of you out of nowhere.
>Your mother will need to face some very bad guys from here on out.
>They can even do bad things to you, Kotarou.
>For that I will need to stay away from you.

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>disintegration was originally deku's quirk, calling it now.
if quirks and personality are connected why would deku have decay? What would he want to destroy?

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pussy

>1 abusive adult
>3 useless adults
The latter is much worse than the former.

Are you retarded or a speed reader?

These nuts.

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He would lose this personality trait as soon as the quirk/cause of it was taken away. Don't think that was Deku's quirk, though.

fucking AFO

I'll quote
For you

I don't frequently follow this series. I watched all anime but probably is gonna miss many plot points.

>That's enough!
>I went too far.
>Where are they now?
>If you'll use violence, then I can't accept your rules.
>Didn't you say that you wanted to build a happy family?
>I didn't want things to end up like this...
>Uuuugh...
>Sniff

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*soloes your verse*
nothin personnel

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I bet AFO is the one that either told Hana about the picture and Nana relation's with their family and or gave it to her for Shiggy to inevitably activate his quirk.

Just say it's a Japanese thing then
No need to be an asshole

hello

I really wanna hug Shiggy, he's a victim of the circumstances and he's done nothing wrong except maybe not taking enough showers.

Seems like his itchiness is just caused by anxiety and isn't an allergy at all

>smacks son for breaking a rule
>abusive

The translation for the pic in OP
>Guuuu...
>No...
>I hate this... sniff...
>Mon...
>I... can't take anymore...
>I...
>I hate the whole world.
>His kindness disintegrates...

>AFO is the one that either told Hana about the picture and Nana relation's with their family and or gave it to her for Shiggy to inevitably activate his quirk.
How the fuck would he know/do that, though?

Hope that nigger dies!

It's a stupid rule though. Bad parents always come up with stupid rules.

>He would lose this personality trait as soon as the quirk/cause of it was taken away.
Is this why nomus are so dumb? Becuase having too many quirks/personalities messes with your intelligence or something? Does AFO's quirk prevent this for himself and giga?

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Stop saying bad things about Shiggy, he is a victim of circumstance, he didn't deserve any of this

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Dont be cruel.

Thank you this one is the same as this tho

He never thanked Kurogiri enough.

>bitch sold him out
She deserved to get disintegrated

That'd be a good theory, it;d be akin to steroid abuse. Too much juice overload fucks with your head and triggers massive roid rage

Every parent has stupid rules. What matters is how you as a child deal with them.

AFO's quirk gives him the mania of collecting quirks. Because he can naturally stock quirks in some way, this does not affect him.

He's going to die and it'll be great FOR ME.

You as a child should be free to express yourself. Abusive parents set ridiculous rules.

I literally hope you die

this is basically what trigger does.

So you blame kids if things go wrong under your custody?

Is it possible Shigaraki is actually allergic to his quirk?

Are you retarded, user?
>It was Tenko, Tenko who begged to see it.
>Children are incredibly selfish
Poor Shiggy didn't even know that cursed pic existed.

Thanks for pointing that out I didn't notice that
>Forgive me for not being a good mom to you.
>You can end up hating me for that...
>But I will always love you, Kotarou.
>I love you, Kotarou.
>I hope that you continue living, always happy and smiling.
>Your mother will always look at you from above.
>......
>If only she hated me.

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Makes sense, Nomus have their brains expose, probably a way to "program" them to follow rules since they lack intelligence

Yes, I was speedreading too hard there.

>if only she hated me
Weird line

child emperor would wipe the floor with MHA lol

>You as a child should be free to express yourself.
*does fortnite dance*

Shiggy was a brat that couldn't follow 1 rule.

lol his dad used his quirk here.

I'm sure the whole "quirk is your personality" is psuedoscience. The truth is closer to "your quirk impacts your personality because you act with that in your arsenal ontop of people around you assuming that's what you are thus further influencing your attitude"

That's the parent's duty to convince them that the dance is stupid and they should stop doing it.

>Not Metal Bat
You know you want to see him go all out against every hero in Bnha

OPM is great but we don't need any power level fights here

Are we ever going to a get a villain that doesn't have a babby's first tragic backstory?

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several counts of attempted murder, several murders

That was Shiggy having quirk awakening spasms.

Are we ever going to hae a thread without retards like these?

That's his way of saying that he's hurt because he misses her.
If she hated him, he'd hate her in return and wouldn't miss her.

That means that at least then he could convince himself she was a bitch who never wanted him in the first place.

no i dont want to see a dead dog next chapter please

He'll just turn into dust, you won't see a corpse.

someone get shigaraki a new therapy puppy

>your personality reflects your quirk
>but you also inherit it from both your parents
>or maybe someone else in your family tree
>or maybe you randomly inherit a quirk out of nowhere that was never in your family history

which is it hori, you fucking hack?

Don't worry, Hori is gonna focus on Twice and Toga for no reason

He'd kill the puppy accidentally. Only AFO have immunity and balls enough to cuddle him.

>two murdered dogs in one arc
wtf hori

>or maybe you randomly inherit a quirk out of nowhere that was never in your family history
That is called a mutation, very common in evolution 101. Hori is being consistent here.

I want to cuddle shigaraki too

>shigaraki's ultimate power up is revealing he has his doggo's paw still with him

>Shigaraki
>shigARAKI
>Araki
we should've seen this coming, that dog was doomed from the start

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>two murdered dogs in one arc
What was the other one?

>if daddy hadnt been a bitch, they'd have known about the quirk from him destroying the ball and all this shit could've been avoided

didnt toga's flashback have one

This is a Shiggy thread, please say something nice about him!

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I think there was a bug on Yea Forums's side. When I posted my image in another thread, I got your image instead

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Ball was just cracked, it could've been passed off as the dog biting it.

No, it was a dead bird she found

I can't believe I thought you would eventually become a unique villain

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Your personality reflects your quirk much in the same way people are subtly influenced by people's expectations of them.

i'd say he's my favorite villain in the series but considering the competition that's not saying much.

while that was a harder backhand than Shiggy's dad's hand, that's still a good compliment somehow

That line actually seems so out of place I wonder if the original translator mistranslated from Japanese

His suffering is enjoyable

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shigaraki has a soft spot for corgis and cries every time he sees one

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It isn't, though. Hana put the blame on Shiggy because she was selfish.

I am so glad we're finally getting the thing I've most been waiting for. I was right about every aspect of Shigaraki's backstory (minus him having a sister), and yet because it was all foreshadowed I feel it is fulfilling and satisfying to finally see it

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>abuse
>abuse

Shut the fuck up you pussy faggots, smacking your kid for being a little shit isn't abuse, it's the correct thing to do. If you tell the fucker not to do something and it repeatedly ignores you and does it anyway, not only is it dangerous in the long term (such as when you need them to stay out of dangerous situations, like not running into the fucking road or laater in life when you tell them you'll fucking kill them if they do drugs); but it's downright fucking disrespectful.
Fuckwits like you are the reason the West is collapsing internally.

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It seems weird because Hana is yelling this out to her dad when he's about to hit Shigaraki though, and is well away from her, and looks distressed about him cornering Shigs. The line and the context seem out of place.

I'd believe a kid pinning the blame on their sibling beforehand when cornered and then their dad storming off. Yelling further condemnations of Shigs is weird though, the panel and line don't really match up

So what's the connection here?

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So I feel that shiggy's dad is the most interesting thing about his backstory. Maybe if he told his kids what a massive fuck up his mother pulled we could have avoided all this. Or maybe how about her mentor an pupil say fuck her wishes and be involved in his life?

i can safely assume your parents beat you, right?

>Shouto abused constantly as a kid
>turns out okay
>Shiggy gets hit once in a blue moon
>twisted psychopath

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The wife didn't threaten a divorce. She just confronted him about using physical violence.

Overall she and her parents are spineless around Shiggy's dad because he owns the house and they're all freeloaders. That's why Shiggy got angry at them.

Honestly, Nana did die so she did the right thing because if her son had stayed with her he probably would have died too.

It's fair that her son resents her, because it's a fucked up and unfair situation. It's not fair that he takes it out on Tenko/Shigs

One is an AfO plant.
The other is AfO

Unless you aren't aware, a 5 year old barely understands how to speak, let alone begin to grasp the concept that heroes aren't always good.

Hes just pissed off that smoking hot babe died

I've been hit for being a dumb shit before, but there's a difference between teaching your kid a lesson, and what Shiggy's dad is doing.

I feel like, considiring the destructive power of Shiggy's quirk, his family wasn't the only damage he caused. Last panel has Shiggy destroying the ground, a few chapters ago, he destroyed a entire building. The heroes were avoiding him likely because they were scared as fuck of him.
>inb4 the disaster video of chapter one

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The inlaws are so disgustingly timid. They have no self respect. It's hard to sympathize with them.

Every person whose been abused is different and going to react different.

But Shigaraki's whole family is dead at the end of this and he's groomed by the biggest villain in the whole series from the age of 5.

>The wife didn't threaten a divorce
Fuck off hole

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>biggest villain in the whole series
lmao

>Shiggy gets hit once in a blue moon
Dude, he killed his whole family by accident, definitely the worse childhood shit so far.

>The wife didn't threaten a divorce.
>I'll not abide to your rules anymore.
Yes, she is.

Hori is so much of a hack that I expect him not to show Shiggy killing his family a la Eren Jaeger eating his dad

It just cuts to Shiggy in tears with a ruined house in the background

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>Angry irrational person with a lot of conflicting feelings in a culture that's awkwardly distant and emotionally retentive should just explain to his small children his mother issues
>Close friends within an honor bound society should disregard dead friend's wishes
So you're saying had they existed in a totally different context to themselves, this would've worked out okay?

my strap on

Well, I'm not a hundred percent sure on it but maybe just a check in every few years. Fuck man I dunno. Maybe this shit could have been solved with Christmas and birthday presents every year?

Toga and Twice sex chapter when?

I'm going to be so upset if it turns out that shiggy got his quirk from AfO like everyone has been memeing for weeks. It's impossible to plan that far ahead. Unless he knew he was Nana's grandson. Fuck.

Did she say 'We will leave you?'

No, she didn't. Wishful thinking from 3 spineless adults.

>Solving deep seated abandonment issues with Christmas and Birthday presents
It doesn't work for Divorced Dads and it won't work for Dead moms.

stop stalking me, how do you know whenever i'm here

Are you autistic? What do you think she meant by that?

>Plan that far ahead
I mean it's tantamount to leaving the a grenade pinned to the kid. The scenario is just coincidence but the point is just "I'll give this kid a destructive quirk and when it goes off, it'll probably ruin the family's lives in some form" it just ended up working out really well.

Turns out All for one planned shiggy's birth

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Based AFO.

He's angry with Nana but couldn't bring himself to hate her. If she's still alive he probably could have confronted her with it and move on, but she died before he could get closure.

Could be some jealousy involved as well if Kotarou knew about All Might and Nana grooming him.

Shiggy is a pussy-ass bitch. Hundreds of people all over the world have it worse than him, yet he’s the only one running around being a retarded unironic “anarchist” out of literal daddy issues.

This was the first time that supposedly AFO and Shiggy met, and Shiggy had been having his scratchy eyes for a long time before. A big part of a plan is adapt it as you get new info. Also if Shiggy got bad touched by AFO he'd tell.

Whats with post claiming that Shiggy's damage comes from his dad and completely ignore the part where he disintegrates his entire family?

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>mfw we're going to get the whole Deku Shiggy parallels shoved down our throats for the remainder of the manga

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difference is todorokis mom defended him where as nobody in the family defended shiggy

The man accidently murdered his entire family and has been groomed for evil and mentally stunted by the man who is directly responsible for all of his suffering

why is everyone always so angry here

Did you get mad when you realized the sun was just going to keep on rising every fucking morning?

Do we even know the scratchy eyes are related to his quirk? He seems to scratch out of anxiety, like he mentions he only gets itchy 'at home' and he gets itchier when his dad is angry. Sounds like it's a stress reaction

fuck you you dumb piece of shit i will fucking end you

It's nothing due to his dad smacking him once, and his disintegration of his family was after the fact. The thing that messed him up was that his sister betrayed him for literaly no reason other than she was a coward.

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i want ibara to become friends with deku

>It's another daddy was mean to me episode
Why is Hori such a basedboy?

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Learned from his dad. Mommy issues, taking it out on his toddler kids. Rot in hell, Kotarou.

Then it wouldn't be there anymore, after he took the scratch thing to his neck. Scratching don't cause the badly dry skin either.

there's a lot of mean people here, but there's a lot of nice people too, i try to be nice to everyone, but people are always mean to me back.
i hope people are nice to you.

Why wouldn't it be there? Repetitive scratching can cause scarring.

If it is related to his quirk, I'm not sure why he says he only get itchy at home and why his itchiness increases when his dad yells at him

The fact that he had to live with killing his whole family notwithstanding, you're going to be unhappy anyway even if Hori made a character that was bullied his whole life but still find it in his heart to forgive and help his tormentors.

>can cause scarring.
This is not scarring, it's dry skin. Scarring is what he have in his lips. You can tell the difference by his face and Dabi's.

Not only did he kill his whole family. He's... literally in the custody of AFO from childhood. This is like wondering why an adult Eri raised by Overhaul would be fucked up

Also the subject of mutation has been touched before.

It seems like those who aim for #1 usually have shitty family relationships. No wonder AM was a permavirgin.

>dog dies first
>dog literally did nothing wrong
>dog stood up for and comforted him
:(

who else thinks that AFO was hiding behind the fence and just swapped Shiggy's shitty skin condition quirk with his current one?

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Are you saying faceless, nameless posters are outraged or appeared to be outraged in an internet environment that encourages outrage? Inconceivable!

This all begs the question, why does Shigaraki have such an attachment to his Father's hand?

i know for sure i'm gonna cry next chapter

people hate each other for no reason, there are many ways to hate but the best way to hate is to show kindness to those who hate you, and then turn that hatred into unconditional love. It's what Jesus would want
we'll see in the next chapter

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amen.
: )

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Jesus was a tool

>dog killing chapter

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thus if deku got it taken away at a young age and shiggy given it to him at a young age the impact on personality would be on shiggy alone, for all intents and purposes deku pretty much was quirkless even if the quirk was originally his

Why doesn't he have a dog paw to boot

I'd be angry too if I sat through 3 years of nothing happening

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trash chapter

>new bumwolf doujin
>Kouta x Deku

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Maybe it's just irrational attachment, or there are more stories behind these hands yet to be revealed.

I want the hands to be just another one of AfO's shenanigans, because I can't get enough of his shenanigans

Yeah.
>daddy hit me twice now I have to destroy the world
lol probably the worst villain origin I ever saw.

"'Sup, Midoriya?"

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>dad doesnt want me doing a dangerous job I hate him

wow this was fucking retarded

After he killed his family and no hero came to save him, he realized that his dad was right about heroes all along.

I think the part where he denied Shiggy dinner and forced him to stay in the backyard while the rest of the family ate is more convincing as evidence of abuse than the slapping part.

>i went too far
Okay so physically punishing Shigaraki was NOT the norm, if dad is saying that hitting him was going too far.

the projection is real. it's not like shigaraki even says he hates his dad, he just doesn't like his dad beating the shit out of him

Exactly. Hori is a hack writer. You have to be a 12 years old to come up with this trash backstory.

It isnt that just discipline? He got into trouble with a neighbor and broke the rule about hero talk, so he didn't get to eat dinner.

His quirk activated and he fucking murdered them all.

I'll suck hori's dick if he brings back the Sister through some AFO bullshit. Bonus points if she still has the twin tails.

And this gentlemen, is why we don't listen to women.

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>LoV told Bakugou they were oppressed by society when they bagged him
>only person who faced anything close to actual oppression was Spinner

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This, but unironically. All Might material is rare as fuck, and average pro heroes are more caring about their lives than a rampaging weird kid destroying everything on his path accidentally. It's a AFO does what the govwernment is too imcompetent to do episode.

shiggy needs a hug, i want to hug him

Damn snitches get stitches

Top ten anime betrayals.

I want to be his new mommy and hug him and give him allergy medicine

i do too, i want to play with him and make sure he's safe

Toga was told by her own parents had she was a literal Satan spawn

Man, Nana was a fucking IMBECILE.

Can we all agree that Hori is a bad writer?

Everyone who posts in these threads is a disingenuous fuck

>shiggy needs a hug

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So you're telling me he and AfO are like Batman and Robin. Naruhodo...

imagine if instead of shiggy's sister showing him a picture of his grandma she showed him her cunny instead and while fucking her tight virgin loli pussy his quirk activated and he disintegrated her buttcheeks

everyone who posts in these threads are cute and nice people who deserve happiness

Starving your kid for talking abour something you don't like is fucked up

>>Heroes are those that put other people before their own families
You busy reckon Nana's husband may have died because of her hero work?

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AfO did nothing wrong

Yes

thank god afo ended her

>Shiggy doesn't have any children sized hands
FUCK ALL THE DENIERS, SHIGGY ONEE CHAN IS STILL ALIVE

Almost all of the LOV who have backstories has, not sure what you're even talking about.

Missing one meal is not starving

t. Zoomer

>killing a dog

fuck you

Nana was right. Kotarou would be dead if she didn't send him away

>Toga is insane
>Twice is irresponsible
>Shiggy is a victim of circumstance
How is this society's fault

>gentleman
>we
peak incel

Cute and canon

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but its not. my dad and mom both call their inlaws mom and dad

the dog is still alive because shiggy doesn't have any dog paws

No, she wasn't. All she had to do was explain some things.

>oh noes, the doggos!!!

>Afo don't kill my kid
>Oh, ok

So literally the only rule his father set was 'No hero shit in my house'?

Its time for a smash

>AFO kills her and then goes to murder the kid anyways

Did he just regrow his hands?

Is his quirk literally just overhaul now?

I still don't get why AfO didn't do that anyway.
Just to use him, I guess.

>no one commented yet on Koutarou's hairstyle

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There’s a fine line between discipline and disproportionate punishment, and I think forcing a child to skip a meal crosses that line. Plus, a slap can be passed off as something done in a moment of passion, whereas forced starvation is inherently premeditated.

Toga, Twice and Shiggy are literally all treated like shit by society before they go down a bad path. Toga's parents treat her like a demon, Shigaraki is not just a victim of circumstance we know society ignores him when he's alone in the street and Twice is barred from society after one accident (as well as having a tough home life)

The child was supposed to be hidden and AM and Gran Torino were also supposed to have limited contact so attention wouldn't be drawn to him and he could lead a normal life.

AFO finds a way tho

i love everyone in this thread!

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Then she should've just not had Kotarou in the first place.
She clearly knew that a pro hero having a child is a bad idea, but she had a child anyway.
As soon as she gave birth to him, the only options were to endanger him by keeping him, abandon him and fuck him up by making him grow up without a mother, or keep him and then die in battle and leave him as an orphan.
All Might had the right idea by not having any kids. Heroes should not be parents.

Based Torino has gone like 40 years without paying child support

>His kindness disintegrates...
This line and the weird allergies/itchiness that he had the whole chapter makes me think that his quirk is only activated and disintegrating all the time because of the anger he built up inside. Maybe if he wasn't so angry his quirk wouldn't be activated all the time like it usually is.

He probably held some anger and resentment at his sister for selling him out, his father for beating him, and the rest of his family for not helping him. Then later on he ends up accidentally killing them all cause he was angry at them.

Not that he would've even needed to for the last 15 of those years.

>the solution was to not have a problem to solve in the first place

>To hit a child is not as bad as making them skip a meal to teach them their actions have consequences in a non violent way and enforce discipline
I hope you never become a parent

Both are equivalent. Hunger is pain. Making a child go hungry is a suffering equivalent to being hit and most kids would rather get a smack than miss a meal

To be fair hairstyle isn't inhheritable.

I wonder if his dad starving him has anything to do with Shigs not eating much now. I've wondered why he's so damn skinny, but it could just be that he doesn't take care of himself

>big home and family
>loved by everyone
>had friends
>I hate everyone and want to kill everything because my dad was fucked up
Typical boring villain origin, boring chapter.
Come on Hori, how do you make Twice's backstory ten times more interesting than the main villain's?

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Are you legit retarded?

user tell me, do you remember how Shiggy accidently killed his family?

I feel like you haven't even actually read the chapter or have forgotten other details of Shigaraki's life

Yes.

>no hero came to save him
AFO probably killed any possible heroes that could have saved or get him some help.

>Araki walks into Hori's office
Araki: You know, you're doing a pretty good job over there at jump.
Hori: Oh, uh thanks.
Araki: Out of all the jump writers, you're probably my favorite too.
Hori: R-really?
Araki: Yeah, definately. Hey you got that origin story up next, right?
Hori: Yeah I do.
Araki: Nice, nice. You should totally kill a fucking dog in your next chapter. Cool, bye.

Some kids express themselves by hurting others, there needs to be limits.

it's only his left hand that got mangled, speedreader-kun

I can already see the fujos aggressively shipping Dabi and Shigaraki over their abusive dad issues, fuck you hori

>hairstyle isn't inheritable
Are you saying dragon ball lied to me?

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You know, heroes were denying Bakugou help as well.

They're all related, then?

I think it’s more that the inflamed skin is a side effect of his quirk and it only acts up at home cause the stress his father puts him under.

Who cares what fujos do, they don't even need an excuse to ship.

Only for AFO to track him down and come up with a plan to use her family member(Shiggy) against All Might.

Considering that she created the problem herself, yes.

Not what's going on here though

That's because AfO was secretly peeking around the corner, using a morale draining quirk to keep them from helping.

That's been part of the reason those two have been shipped for years because it was always obvious Shigs had dad issues because it was heavily foreshadowed and Dabi=Todoroki has been long held

Ah, that might make sense. Maybe stress = quirk = skin issues is all a big circle then

That's super gross and disgustingly messed up

Not everything is AFO's fault, All Might.

>Hori
>Hiro
My god

It ultimately failed, but it was the right idea

AFO has personally shat in my coffee this morning.

>Not everything is AFO's fault
Hori finds a way.

died and left him

nice

AFO made me forget how to read and write

Dabi is not a Todoroki.

>turns out okay
Only because Deku talk no jutsu’d him.

>Dabi
We don't know who Dabi is though or any of his past.

>Dabi=Chodoroki
Prove it.

Anyway, it's pretty obvious Koutarou is like a Kouta who stayed bitter about heroes right. Big obvious character parallels

He literally said "I hate everyone" in the chapter. He killed them by accident but how do you think that accident ended up happening?
Watch how it's gonna show him killing everyone, even though it won't be intentional, after some other sort of conflict he gets in with all of them just because of his father, despite the fact that the rest of them only showered him with love. Now he's just literal edge "I exist only to destroy". Nothing about all this is interesting nor it makes me feel for the kid as a person nor as an antagonist.

Imagine being a shigarakifag

I'm just saying it's been a long held accepted fan theory for years and lots of people have drawn art and written stuff based off it.

Do I personally believe Dabi is a Todoroki? Yeah, because Hori doesn't tend to back down on his foreshadowing. Shigaraki's backstory is exactly what everyone thought, and a bunch of fake foreshadowing is a waste of screen time. That being said, at this point it's not provable because no theory is provable until the actual reveal no matter how obvious its evidence is.

>despite the fact that the rest of them only showered him with love
They still stood there and watched. None of them could do fucking anything
He repeats how the house is entirely of his father.

He's got the most hellish quirk we've seen in the series to date, besides maybe Eri's rewind

As a shigarakifag I'm feeling pretty happy right now. But yes your comment shows you are full of it, because Shigaraki is also groomed for years. We can also assume this accident happens because his powers manifest. That's like claiming Eri purposefully murdered people with her quirk and should be held responsible

>Hori doesn't tend to back down on his foreshadowing
If there's foreshadowing, I'd like to see it. Because every piece of evidence so far (muh blue eyes etc) is animeonly trash

Eri and Shiggy seem like the exact same quirk just in different directions
Shiggy is forward so it decays
Eri is backwards so it rewinds

>Nana fucked her sensei.

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>waaa daddy beat me!!
>i hate everyone now!
what a kid

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GOD i wish I was Nana

He made a big deal out of not telling the league his name meaning there has to be meaning to his name both to us and the audience
again he was the only one who didn't get a name (even a fake one) when Gran Torino listed the entire league.
he clearly had a bigger interest in Shoto than any other student with big panels and slowly saying his name.
He has a fire quirk and turqoise eyes. Ignore that if you want but those are genetic
you have to be retarded to not see the foreshadowing here.

Yes but we were talking in general

>>Falling for the weakest bait in the entire thread.
>>So weak I'm simultaneously pitying and congratulating the amount of (you)s
Boy I'm gonna steal this one and have a blast for the next 8 days until next chapter provides new ammunition

>He literally said "I hate everyone" in the chapter.
Yeah, that is what is called a "child tantrum".
The issue comes form the fact that everything aligned so he could harbor those feeling forever.

Endeavour 'suddenly my vision is blurry' Todoroki
Dabi "I'll tell you my name when it's relevant" Todoroki
Dabi 'only my real name is left out of the list of villains' "Todoroki"
Dabi 'i get carsick easily' "Todoroki"
Dabi 'fire powers' "Todoroki"
Dabi 'wow after years of fans speculating I was a Todoroki the oldest brother is mia and the whole family has lost track of and refuses to talk about and treats really mysteriously all the time" Todoroki

No, I can't 'prove' it but it's really transparently set up. At this point saying 'I can't see foreshadowing' is like saying 'I am not good at reading'. You can say 'maybe Hori is leading the audience astray' (though I don't feel he would), but Hori himself would have to be the shittiest writer alive to not be aware of the threads he's setting up

>Shigaraki still only wants destruction
I don't care what kind of sad backstory you give him, this is still BORING.

>He literally said "I hate everyone" in the chapter.
Gee, it’s almost like he’s a child.
>despite the fact that the rest of them only showered him with love
You were just shown how unsupportive of his dream they were and how they stood by and let his father hit him. His sister was the only one who actively supported him but threw him under the bus when she got scared. They’re not terrible people but they made several mistakes. They realized that and nutted up but it’s just too little too late.

>Dabi 'i get carsick easily' "Todoroki
how is that suggestive?

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How the fuck did they think AfO WOULDN'T find him? He controlled a huge criminal empire, what's so hard about finding one fucking kid?

Nothing, apparently.

i want to shower shiggy with love

>waaa this one guy I knew for a bit died
>imma kill myself to fuck this cat
what a kid

They even had the kid even keep his name of Shimura.

Touya's implied weak constitution (the story is kind of vague about this, but it's implied)

Me too, I want to take care of him and give him and easy and comfortable life

Hori doesn't foreshadow, he just dredges up characters he introduced and did nothing with for the fan service.

If anything was actually foreshadowed, the traitor plotline would have actually gone somewhere.

Now you're not even trying

>Hori doesn't foreshadow
Lowest IQ post itt.

Better than nothing

Therefore Mr Compress is a Todoroki
Therefore Toga is Ochaco's sister
Common quirk type, animeonly 'evidence'

You haven't given anything concrete, you haven't proven anything. On the flipside, this single easily comment after a forgettable panel related alone you have the foreshadowing of:
>Shoto apologising he couldn't see Toru at USJ and that he should have been more considerate
>Shoto looking concerned as Sperg jumped him by blasting through the berg into his face in the Sports Fest finals
>Stain exploiting this weakness and nearly killing Shoto, with comments on the fact Shoto obscured his own vision
>Compress taunting that Shoto had prevented everyone else from seeing him do his magicman tricks
>Shoto doing a prototype version of this move at the Provisionals and commenting that he was too slow in doing it+switching to fire
There is foreshadowing. And there is bullshit cracktheories. Fanart quantity does not equate to canon, fuck off.

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Standing around going "well it can't be helped" instead of stopping someone from excessively beating a child or sending him outside to watch you eat dinner isn't exactly showering with love

I only listed evidence from the manga. But you're clearly stupid, so there's no helping you

this has to be bait

>1 life for 1 life
>same as 1 person beat me i want to kill everyone now
herotards everyone

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>Therefore Toga is Ochaco's sister
Kinky

>Therefore Mr Compress is a Todoroki
Atsuhiro Sako
Has made no big deal out of his name
Doesn't care about Shoto.
Has a quirk completely unrelated to fire and eyes

What?
>Therefore Toga is Ochaco's sister
What the fuck is wrong with you? I can't even start with that. They clearly haven't met before the forest.
Their quirks are nothing alike. We have seen both Toga's and Ochaco's parents.

Why were the parents-in-law not constantly shitting on their son-in-law for treating their grandson that way? In my experience, parents-in-law are always the most critical about their sons-in-law, but they just stood there and watched Yoshikage Kira be a dick to Shiggy.

If your life is only worth one life sure

He's the one with the money.

Japan.

2 lives for one actually

dad is rich and the only one working to give everyone a big ass house full of commodities, why would they middle? They also likely know that his mother was Nana so they know where Kotaro's anger comes from

>Why were the parents-in-law not constantly shitting on their son-in-law for treating their grandson that way?
Because they are poor and he is paying for everything and letting them live there

How many times does shiggy have to repeat that this was his father's house for you to get it?

He was being disingenuous user.

In my experience, that still doesn't stop parents-in-law from criticizing their sons-in-law.

I thought that in Japan, the elders had more authority.

no he is retarded.

shiggy deserves an easy life, i want him to leave all the hard decisions and stuff all up to his mommy (me)

Japan, head of the family and all that

Two lives for literally a stranger, and Shiggy is mentally damaged by killing his family in a accident.

cute

But why did his quirk manifest so late?

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I want to protect shiggy and then crawl into his bed at night when he starts to trust me

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Late bloomer

They’re too meek to do that. It took him whaling on Shigaraki for them to grow some balls.

He's a mutation. A average do not mean everyone has exactly this same height.

It's worse than that
>waaa daddy beat me because I wanted to be a hero
>I hate heroes now, I'll become a villain and kill all heroes, that'll show him

Hope that boipussy is worth getting disintegrated for.

It was manifesting already, what do you think his "allergies" were? When his dad punishes him he touches his skin which causes the disintegration on a low level

This chapter was fucking amazing because SHIGGY WAS BASICALLY MIDORIYA WITH DIFFERENT SETTINGS

>SHIGGY WAS BASICALLY MIDORIYA WITH DIFFERENT SETTINGS
And yet they will never talk about it or confront each other
Because all these parallels are just for show and will never amount to anything

>Deku if his dad ever came home from buying that pack of smokes

Deku didn't have a twintail imouto

You're letting your speedreading show.

Not really, Deku's parents (or at least his Mom, who knows about his Dad) simply told him that being a hero was impossible for him. Shiggy's Dad told him that heroes suck and he hates them.

shiggy should let his mommy sleep with him every night. it's to keep him safe and also happy because cuddling is nice.

>they were the same but different!!
What

Not really necessary tho.
This parallel is for the viewer and while they might tap on it lightly in the story. It's just an ironic fate things. I forgot what's it called but it's a type of irony only the reader knows

Tell me more future man. What are the other 5 OfA quirks?

Dramatic Irony
Its not quite that though.

I just mean there is no substance

>Wait, you're quirkless? Oh thank God, that means you can give up on those retarded dreams of yours of being a hero. My work here is done, now if you'll excuse me, I'm off on a quest to buy a rare brand of cigarettes somewhere in America.

>Father beats the shit out of Shiggy
>Fuck gou, bitch
>Bakugou beats the shit out of Deku
>Sasuga kacchan
That why AFO left to buy cigarettes.

Poor kid

All of them have to do with raping Bakugo

maybe he's just an M

They also thought he didn’t have a quirk

To everyone replying, I meant they were the same but they had different family situations, friends, conditions when growing up. But both wanted to be heroes and admired them. It's as another user said, dramatic irony. Because of shiggy's abusive father he probably killed his entire family while deku had a better home who even tho discouraged him at one point with her "sorry" did truly love and take care of him

Kotaro is really hot, I want him to hit me in the naughty way

Dramatic Irony, it's when the reader knows information that some or all of the characters don't, Like how the reader knows Bruce Wayne is Batman but no one in his rogues gallery (well most of them) does.

Why does he kept his Father hand so close to him if he was such a fucking abuser

Every child in this series wants to be a hero, there is literally nothing special about it

I meant hugging his body softly while he sleeps, supressing my true desires because I don't want to see his smile fade you sick fuck

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>Every child in this series wants to be a hero,
No?

So he won't forget what drives him. His hate for daddy and the family that didn't help him except Hana chan probably

>Every child in this series wants to be a hero

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Well he did change his mind after seeing Deku almost killing himself to protect him

No? You got kids like that weird machines girl who as you can see only care about something else

>What are the other 5 OfA quirks?
Precognition for danger
temporary power transfer.
gliding
Explosion
Hardening

Shit I forgot shigaraki wore a onesie a the some point

Denial and only because he's parents died.

But not every kid has a deku

that isn't from this chapter or the next, it's from an older chapter. We're getting Shiggy dusting his entire family next week.

that is nice and also just how you should treat shiggy. you'd be a great mommy user.

Yes, his ordinary-life family circumstances are not only nothing out of ordinary, but more or less far too peachy. If you could dig in your father's personal documents without expecting a good spanking upon being caught, then your father was a pussy, and likely so are you. An arbitrary prohibition on some innocuos activity is unfair, but not a tragedy, in fact, I'd like to see such rartity as a child who never had a disagreement with his parents about what should be allowed for him.

But if Shiggy's family circumstances don't justify him being an edgelord, gaining a power to murder your entire family and their little dog too in a middle of childish temper tantrum, then unwittingly using it, and then being groomed for over a decade by a supervillain who fucking explicitly wishes to make that tantrum your permanent state of mind, well these circumstances sort of do.

>without expecting a good spanking
Can you guys stop acting like what Shiggy dad was normal physical reprimanding?
He had the kid stay outside to suffer.
The fucker was literally sick and getting worse.

It wasn't just some smack to show him he did wrong. It was literal physical abuse years beyond what even endeavor did.

Not yet. We need part 2. But honestly this backstory screams forced drama for shiggy's origins. Its honestly just terrible. Even todoroki twisted anger aim is better than this

>normal physical reprimanding
>Literally just gave him a smack
>didn't even use a belt or anything
>was instantly apologetic after doing it

>It was literal physical abuse years beyond what even endeavor did.
Cool horseshit bro

>years beyong what endeavor did
Let me guess shiggy is your favorite character?

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I'm calling you retards out on what constitutes foreshadowing.
You are correct in saying Hori foreshadows subtlly to those paying attention, but what you are giving is not evidence, it's barebones speculation at best. I've seen shipfags with more compelling arguments than this hogwash.

>Hidden name
Fine; Moonfish, Muscular, Mustard and Kurogiri are all Todorokis. Thanks for being purposefully oblique, really aiding the conversation.

>Knows Shoto
It was clearly stated throughout the entire forest arc that all the students names and quirks were known; finalists especially, which is more important when considering Shoto came FUCKING SECOND AND WAS A MEDIA DARLING BECAUSE HE'S ENDEAVORS SON. He's hands down the most well known student in the camp (and what we've seen, the year), it's not a case of it being weird if Dabi did know his name, it'd be weird if he didn't. Even more, considering Endeavor was the one who got the credit for taking down Stain - the guy Dabi is the most obsessive about bar only Spinner. It's completely logical Dabi holds a grudge against Shoto because Enji was the one who 'took down' Stain.
Toga knows Lawfrog and Ochunkos names from the bat and makes emphasis of it, so my obviously incorrect analogy (if Dabi knowing and emphasising Shoto's name means he's Shoto's brother, then Toga knowing and emphasising Ochunkos name makes it that she's her sister) holds the exact same weight with your own single line of logic, though I had hoped it was pretty obvious what I was getting at since I had simplified it so much for you.

I am pointing out that you have no evidence while posting my own with complete arguments and panels from the manga. You can't dismiss me as 'bait' because you can refute me. You aren't giving any more points and are on the constant defensive (then accusing ME of being disingenuous nd retarded); if you have nothing else then just just fucking admit you're wrong, you stubborn autists.

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>Wait a minute, I just remembered I hated my family, why did I keep their hands around again?

>don't let him in until he apologizes
>clearly showing he was forced to stay outside with a weak condition

Nice speedreading fagget

He wasn't even outside for long retard

I fucking love Endeavor but if you really, REALLY think that what Kotaro did was anywhere as fucked up as what Endeavor did to his children you are obtuse as fuck

>Fine; Moonfish, Muscular, Mustard and Kurogiri are all Todorokis.
ITS THE FUCKING COMBINATION OF EVERYHING
AND NONE OF THEM MADE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THEIR REAL NAME
YOU DUMB SHIT

ALSO ALL OF THEM HAVE QUIRKS THAT ARE UNRELATED TO FIRE AND ICE
AND MUSCULAR AND MUSTARD ARE KNOWN
MUSCULAR WAS REPORTED ON WITH HIS REAL NAME
YOU THINK FUCKERS WOULDN'T POINT OUT HOW HE IS RELATED TO THE FAMOUS ENDEAVOR? SAME WITH A KNOWN DEATH ROW CONVICT?

YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED

It can't be forced drama when it's implied from forever ago user

>Weak condition
He has what they think is hs his allergy when it could be a tick he has or a side effect from his quirk manifesting

Endeavor's abuse was mental

I specified physical because that is what Shiggydad did way more than Endeavor.

>I fucking love Endeavor
Do you have a vagina?

Its still not a good idea to then take that kid with a weak condition and have it stay outside.

>Endeavor's abuse was mental
>Trained Shouto until he puked on the floor crying

>i hate my dad because he doesnt pay attention to us as he used to
>hes just working really hard
See? Is it still not forced drama?

Yeah

Endeavour is more physically abusive than you're remembering user. He beat his child until he puked and then when his wife tried to stop him he hit her too

They're both bad, it's better not to compare

>This is considered child abuse according to Yea Forums

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You didn't even read the chapter

This is backstory we've been waiting for forever. Also not really getting the example

Probably kids who got coddled with time outs

I was disappointed that he was made to be not-deku

sauce?

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How many doujinshi did this launch?

See I am not defending Endeavor but that was training
Endeavor made sure Shoto would be strong

His training was retarded but Endeavor would not let shoto get sick and do what shiggydad did
So on a pure physical level he didn't do any harm

>>This is considered child abuse according to Yea Forums
Bunch of fucking pussies
I bet all white as well. Every black kid gets beaten by their parents and thus they aren't pussies.
White people don't know how to raise children.

well she's a child
pic related is a main point of this chapter

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>ITS THE FUCKING COMBINATION OF EVERYHING
AND YOUR EVERYTHING MEANS NOTHING AS I HAVE ARGUED AND AS YOU HAVE NOT REFUTED. YOU'VE ARGUED EVERY FUCKING POINT APART FROM THE POINT ITSELF.
0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0 EQUALS ZERO YOU FUCKING AUTIST

YOU ARE BEING COMPLETELY OBLIQUE. YOU ARE COMPLAINING THAT I'VE SIMPLIFIED THINGS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND. I'VE NEVER FUCKING SAID ANYTHING ABOUT EUGENICS YOU FUCKWIT. I'm even being as kind as to assume you are being purposeful, because I genuinely cannot percieve somebody missing the points this hard

>implying white women are Yea Forums

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Great news, boys

>on a purely physical level he did no harm
shigaraki's dad would probably claim he was training his son not to be a dipshit. lots of child beaters have reasons they justify themselves. still abusive, still just as abusive to shouto who is unwillingly getting the shit kicked out of him.

you're not wrong that shigaraki's dad is a dirtbag it's just a bad comparison

>AND YOUR EVERYTHING MEANS NOTHING AS I HAVE ARGUED AND AS YOU HAVE NOT REFUTED
You haven't refuted shit
>YOU'VE ARGUED EVERY FUCKING POINT APART FROM THE POINT ITSELF.
Repeat it then and try to sound not retarded and don't make dishonest arguments like anyone is suggesting Muscular is a Todoroki

You argue like a dishonest retard and then complain nobody is seriously engaging you? Use your fucking brain
I give you one last chance to succinctly make your point because I see no point.

>shigaraki's dad would probably claim he was training his son not to be a dipshit
No
He clearly did the abuse for himself. It was harsher than necessary. Like just having him sit on stairs or whatever would've been the sane alternative to having the weak child outside.
Both endeavor and Shigaraki did the abuse for themselves.

But Endeavor NEEDS shoto to be physically fine.

Endeavour needs Shouto to be physically equipped, Shigaraki's dad needs shigaraki to not be a hero and listen to him. Both kids who are being forced to do shit or get beaten

His father is clearly All for One

>Hey son no hero worship or talk in this house m'kay?

>Hey son I need you to work yourself until you're vomiting blood m'kay?

Yeah totally the same thing.

>Both kids who are being forced to do shit or get beaten
yes but one has a huge toll on the body and is thus physical abuse.
The other doesn't and as depressing as it sounds probably at least made him physically stronger.

>5 years old
>endures heavy emotional stress from killing his family on accident
>abused for an unknown period of time beforehand, but probably for atleast 2-3 years in various fashions
>Father doesn't seem to spend much time around him, so beatings and beratings might've been the only real time they spent together
>distorted love-map on top of that makes him hate his fathers abuse, but since he still loves his father and wants to be reminded of him, he wears the hand over his face to be reminded of their "time together"
or it's just edgy "I want to remember my hate" schtick.

Aw, and I was so convinced that AfO was the one who gave him his quirk

I feel like this could easily be half a chapter. fucking hori dragging as usual

>yes but one has a huge toll on the body
>just one fucking smack

>>just one fucking smack
And the outside thing

some people just had it too easy

I have bad parents too. Am I gonna turn into villain soon, lads?

That she'll not follow the rules he set. At least, she will try to, until he has enough of it and hits her or threatens to kick her out, at which point she will fold and submit. She didn't do anything until now, she just thinks maybe showing a bit of spine is enough to fix him.

depends what's your quirk kid

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Wtf handmaids tale has a comic adaptation

Maybe I have a shit taste but I think this flashback isnt bad. Not top tier but not that bad. Why Complains?

>You haven't refuted shit
Correct, since you haven't made a tangible point, you puckering anus
>Repeat
1. A Villain hiding their name is not unique; and is not evidence, as much as it is 'the foundation of a possibility'. We do not know the names of numerous villains, this foundation can be applied the exact same to them to with this line of logic
Hence, we do not know Kurogiri's true name-so with your line of logic, us not knowing Dabi's name equating to evidence for him being a Todoroki means that Kurogiri (or ANY other non-directly named Villain) can have this exact same line of logic applied to them - which is ridiculous. A non-point. =0.
2. Him knowing Shoto's name is not unique, and can be explained by other, much more reasonable (and provable) lines of logic. First of all, all the students names are known. Tsuyu didn't even make it to the finals and Toga was aware of her; so Dabi knowing Shoto's name is by far not 'odd'
On top, Endeavor got all the credit for taking down Stain. Dabi follows Stain religiously. It is much more logical to suggest Dabi holds a grudge against Endeavor for taking down Stain; and in turn carries this grudge to family ties. =0
3. Numerous people have similar quirk types throughout the franchise. Pony and Reiko have similar quirks of telekinetical manipulation. Kurogiri and John both have warping quirks. Knowing that fire quriks are a very common type of quirk (along with the fact there is Deku's father, the third person ever shown in the entire series (fire face dude), he guy who's supporting Endevor after Pro Heros, numerous civilins in Deika, Toichi from Vigs, as well as arguably Bakugo and Chitose), the link between Dabi having fire and the Todorokis having fire could be comparable to two people having a beauty mark. It means nothing, it's an in-universe commonality. =0
4. Turquoise eyes is animeonly. Literally redundant; Hori incorporated the design because he thought it looked cool. =0

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>marvel is none-existent

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at what point does a string of coincidences become evidence you stupid troglodyte?

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>gets slapped once
>becomes a complete psychopath

yo what the fuck

yes, fuck Apollo, that smug fucking chariot riding faggot some people are trying to sleep

Okay then lets use the same arguments

Its not just not knowing his name
Its him making a big deal out of his real name
I WILL TELL YOU MY REAL NAME WHEN IT IS TIME
Implies there is meaning to it. At least to him. It also implies he can't tell them yet because they would know it and even we the audience would know it
>Him knowing Shoto's name is not unique
And again you are being dishonest as shit
Nobody said it was him KNOWING the name
It was him slowly making a big fucking deal out of the name.
Todoroki..... pause pause
Shotoooooo

For fucks sake.
>Numerous people have similar quirk types throughout the franchise.
Yes. It is only in combination with it where it becomes really obvious.

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Guess Hana can rot in hell with the rest of the Shimura.

>WAAAHHH I HAD A BAD CHILDHOOD BETTER BECOME A VILLAIN
How many times now?

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Someone tell me how o my 7 quirks wasn't an asspull

Read slower

Why didn't his father like his grandmother?

Cause she died? Or was never there for him? Is there a bigger fucking cliche?

>this flashback isnt bad
You're not in the wrong.
Just ignore the shitposters or the coddled faggets, they clearly lack critical thinking and are always proven wrong.

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It was foreshadowed
It didn't solve the situation
An asspull at least how people used to define it was a solution (either an ability or technique or something) that would solve a problem that seemed unsolvable out of nowhere (the characters ass)
The moment 7 quirks came out was actually inconvenient for him and it didn't come out of nowhere

You can still dislike it if you want. You can say its shit writing and you will get people to agree. But an asspull is something specific.

>get a break from work
>he's STILL at it
What in the name of fuck.

Enjoyable chapter though, ReDestro deathflag is more huge than ever now and next chapter will be absolutely fucked with Shiggy breaking down on reminding his past while fucking up ReDestro for sure in parallel.

Because the conditions were anything but an asspull. It was quite the opposite in fact, it was a penispush.

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IT WAS ME YAGI! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!

Vinland Saga

Are you retarded? Shiggy wants to destroy everything because he hates society that abanded him just like rest of his family whenever something terrible was happening to him. This is literally the biggest core issue of society that leaves everything to something else. The same is going on now that AM has retired. Crime went up because everyone was rellying on him to do everything

>Symptoms hydrogen exposure
acute exposure include nausea, headaches, delirium, disturbed equilibrium, tremors, convulsions, and skin and eye irritation.
>skin and eye irritation.
Shiggys been unknowingly disintegrating the atmosphere into its base elements, both removing water vapor near him and causing his own irritation

Every fucking time it's alwasy this exact fucking cycle with you retards
>1. Somebody says this dumb fucking fantheory
>2. Somebody disputes it
>3. Is this bait??? lol???
>4. They repeat, and further prove their arguement
>5. Ok, but you haven't made a point???? lol???
>6. They repeat their point and demand some form of fucking arguement to be contested with
>7. Ok but the coincedances????
They mean nothing
Here's one: Kirishima has red hair, Endeavour has red hair. Kirishima is a manly guy, Endeavor's main demographic is manly guys. Kirishima is a tough person, Endeavor takes a lot of hits vs High End (so he's tough). Endeavor was 2nd place in the Hero rankings, Kirishima was 2nd place in the Entrance exam. Kirishima has large, useless braces on his shoulders, Endevor has large, useless braces on his shoulders. THEY'RE BIOLOGICALLY RELATED SOMEHOW, DON'T YOU SEE ALL THIS FORESHADOWING!!!
I get it's completely stupid and none of the points make any sense compared to actual, provable cases of foreshadowing in the series; but at this point I've come up with so much bullshit, can't you see all these coincedances combined means that this MUST BE a valid theory????????????? Stop baiting, this is perfectly valid, I get like 100000 hits when I search for Endeavor-is-Kirishima's-sister on DeviantArt, muh cowinsidanses

1. He's an edgy cunt who withholds his name. Occams razor. On top, the fact Stain held an alias is even more of an argument that he is following in Stains footsteps as oppose to hiding his sekrit Justin Bieber identity(!!!)
2. He's an edgy cunt. Occams razor. In fact thinking on it, the fact he treats Shoto the same as he later does Enji in High End is proof of my argument, that he holds a grudge against the family name as a result of Endevor taking Stain and not that he has a vested interest in Shoto. AfO also slowly taunts AM's name-for the edge, not because they're related
3. Fire is extremely common type in-universe. Occams razor

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What would you prefer:
>AfO had nothing to do with it/he was only spying
>AfO had a plan to corrupt shiggy and just kill family from the start but shiggy killing his family was a complete wild card
>it was all planned from the start and AfO gave him the quirk

Further hero society is what caused his issue on a higher level because it led to his father's abandonment as well

Now can you pull up manga panel evidence of Dabi's dedication and appreciation of Stain as well as the extremely common nature of the fire quirk outside the Todoroki bloodline? Surely as obvious as those are they must be clearly established and not just you talking out of your ass

A > B >>> C. I like AfO's smugness but I don't want him to be Aizen #2.

This "sad" past was so forced, even by anime standards. Couldn't he just be a victim of bullying?

'cept all the shit you pointed out are significantly more arbitrary than the links between dabi and the todoroki family
Plus the fact that way more shit is piled on than any of your stupid deflects.

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>Yeah, that is what is called a "child tantrum"
Yes, he's a man stuck in a child tantrum phase with no direction or goal other than destroy everything.

So interesting ..

The only thing the parents are to blame for is not being more careful/wary enough about Shigaraki's quirk manifestation.

>My child has weird itching around his eyes.
>No documented allergies present.

Hmm I wonder what it could be?

In a society where new quirks are popping up everywhere you'd think people would be more careful/wary.

It’d be kinda wild if there’s a whole extra dimension to his quirk that Shiggy hasn’t realized since he’s just been pissed this whole time. Like if redestro was always 100% stressed and didn’t realize he could use less power than that because he’s always stressed. In the same vein if Shiggy’s quirk has an emotional component it’d be kinda funny if he’s been stunting himself by only being angry this whole time

Why is that every villain Hori introduces is more interesting and engaging than Shaggy and 99% of the LoV? And then he throws away those interesting characters simply so that Shaggy can grow without achieving jackshit because he's mad and sad, his whole character is just a boring childish tantrum

Kirishima has a completely different name
We've seen Kirishima's origin and there was absolutely zero mention of the Todorokis
Kirishima's hair is dyed and is naturally black
He has red eyes, a trait no Todoroki has
He has sharp teeth, a trait no Todoroki has
He has a quirk completely unrelated to any Todoroki quirk
With Kirishima all your point are way more broad and there is tons, TONS of contradiction.
Whiles with Dabi there is practically zero contradiction and much more suspicious coincidences. Its so incredibly on the nose that it will be a twist if Dabi isnt Touya.

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>Occams razor
Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the one that requires the least speculation is usually correct. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation.
Remember this is a fictional story
What is a more likely explanation. Hori accidentally put in all these hints and it is just a coincidence or its a fucking character in fiction who is making a big deal out of his name actually has a meaningful name?

Occam's razor does not only not apply to fiction but in fact in fiction it is usually the opposite. For example
>a female character has stomach pains
In real life Occam's razor would just tell you she likely ate something wrong and isn't pregnant
In fiction the opposite is way more common because that is why the author wrote those stomach pains in in the first place and thus the jump to assuming the character is pregnant is actually the reasonable one. because we know its fiction written by an author

> Kirishima has red hair
Must be reading different Manga

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>new BNHA doujin sample
>with Shinsou
>except he's the one being raped by futa class 1-B

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This pairing just hits me in the weak spot

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his mom is hot
and his dad is a stud
jesus christ horis art is good

this is the most retarded post ITT lmao
Imagine being so blind to the most obvious twist in the series. If Dabi ISN'T a Todoroki at this point I'll genuinely be shocked, but I doubt Hori would do that since that'd actually be interesting

Fuck off
He didn't even remember any of this when he became a Villain

It checks out.

So what was the point of this flashback? It brought nothing into the story. He killed his family wow we knew this already. Literally a wasted chapter

Plottwist: It was a dog allergy since he clearly was constantly around the corgi. Later on it just became anxiety and he kept on scratching.

Wasn't that Chekhov's gun?

so why is he scratching still?

Hori gotta somehow get a little time between himself and the inevitable showdown coming to give it all he has.

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oh boy i can't wait for the reveal

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sort of yes. Never thought about it but in a way chekhov's gun is a reverse occam's razor

>All I really want... is to destroy.
That is sad. And really creepy.

>tfw you realize that shiggy has used his sisters hands before to masturbate

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>After erasing his family Tenko ran outside looking for a hero to help him
>He accidentally ashes another person and gets attacked by the heroes which is where he gets his scars
>AfO only finds him after he’s been hiding from the authorities for a few days

How far down the suffering hole is Shiggy gonna go?

It's also boring. Villains that just want to destroy aren't very interesting unless they have some kind of fun charm to them like Carnage or the Joker.

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generic edgy shit motivation bro what's sad or creepy about this
is bnha your first anime

ReDestro better win this

Shiggy's dad did something wrong. He didn't kill his shitstain of a son.

>Hey Shigaraki
>Im gonna do what your dad shouldve dine long ago

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What the fuck.
I like the art and the expressions.
But why.

>futa
but why, why can't we get something straight?

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Wish we got more of this, most heroes we see have genuinely good intentions and only a handful actually seem like career oriented assholes. It would even make sense due to All Might being such a workaholic that all the real criminals would be up against him so everyone else would just treat it like being a celebrity rather than a law enforcer

This is where a hero needed to show up. And break his arm...

Art style looks like that person who made the futa Momo fucking and cumming in the entire class (both the guys and girls) doujin

Eri is also a child and she's nowhere near as self-centered.

My dad hit me for saying I wanted to transition. He said we don't talk about transgender issues in this house.

His elders probably would but they’re under his house and he’s the head of the house so he gets the respect

>futa
Muh di-
>on male

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Different circumstances brah.

There is a VERY SMALL chance Hana is still alive, as there were no child's hands among Shiggy's menagerie. If she took fright and ran away before he touched her...

>can be

Actually, it's the same guy where futa Toga visits Deku, threatens to kill his mom if he doesn't follow her orders and then proceeds to fuck him all day long.

sasuga

He would need wishing energy to survive

Her circumstances must have made her hate the entire world, even more than Shiggy.

What if she's the female Nomu?

You just killed your family and insured the deaths of thousands, Dad. Hope you die slow and screaming in agony.

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stop projecting user its just a drawing

Seems like he improved somewhat from that time, that Toga looked a little off.

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Dad might have used materials in building the house that Shiggy was allergic to. That's why it's worse when he's at home.

Here you go.

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>/>190485622
>responding to a point established to be bullshit and a representation of how ridiculous this cracktheory is to anyone else when looked at in a vacuum
Looks like I've found the guys who deliberately argue with the spammers then claim they're improving the thread

>In this case the one that requires the least speculation is usually correct
Indeed.
>Stomach pains case
The point I'm making is that my redutive statements of him following in Stains footsteps to the t is much more simple and reductive than the notion he the secret edgy outcast Chodoroki lovechild (which the Todorokis themselves don't recognise or comment on at all, not even his quirk); especially now that we've had Pro Heroes and nothing happened for that theory. The truest Occams Razor would be that he hides his name because he doesn't want to give it to Villains, he said Shotos name as a basic power play and that he just has a fire quirk.
Taking Chekovs gun into account as you and point out, it's shortest and simplest to say it's derivative of his Stain obession, and not natural behaviour.

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saying the truth is not oppression

Those are all by the same artist.

whats with hori and broken families?

You legally this is child abuse now

>The point I'm making is that my redutive statements of him following in Stains footsteps to the t is much more simple and reductive than the notion he the secret edgy outcast Chodoroki lovechild
It does not explain there to be a meaning behind his name
It does not explain his fire quirk

You have to present like four or five explanations for everything
when the simple answer is just "He is a todoroki"
Answers everything
Literally nothing left
You offer simple solutions but several and thus it is not simple
Seriously this is more on a fictonal level discussing fiction and I honestly think you must be on some level retarded if you think you can apply normal logic to it.
You talk about it like they are real and not characters written by a person

Redestro got 2 ways of survival right now:
>1. The power of a flashback for his own past allowing him to escape off the scene.
>2. Quirk Awakening and pummeling Giga AND Shiggy, the least likely way he gets out of there alive.

Isn't it kinda weird that he can wear gloves?

You remind me of the people who refused to see that Sabo was gonna come back or that Obito was Tobi.

And end up mass robbing stores, idiot.

We didnt see the full gloves, there are a few ways they might work like padded fingertips so technically he isnt touching the full glove with all 5, or one part was cut off so he wouldnt touch it.

You could write your own story...

that is poverty and not how they have been raised.

Yes, however...
He got the biggest deathflag in which most villains have when they're about to hit the bricks.
Two, actually.
Overconfidence and also underestimating the opponent
Whenever both of these happen, the chance of survival is about 10%ish most of the time.

Moonfish, Muscular.

That may work if the pads don't count to the glove. A two-finger glove for the pinky and ring finger would be far more reliable. I don't expect him to wear it in the pic I meant to reply to though.

Also gotta go ABC. I like AfO being the master planner and believe that things in the story are still going as he planned but I’d rather this be a freak accident

Actually, Giga having blown through the area and wiped out Skeptic's 'army', now would be a good time to switch to them and them killing him.

well he ain't playing around anymore

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Where?

Most western countries don’t allow you to hit your kids anymore. It’s seen as child abuse

He himself admitted already that he might have underestimated Shiggys strength (Why he went 80% Liberated to begin with), Redestro seems to atleast not throw ALL the loser flags right now. He´s not going easy on Shiggy and just this chapter seems to be about to nuke the guy.

Shiggy didn’t mean to hurt doggo

>Are you autistic?
He probably is. Those on the spectrum are very literal.

I like how the panel on the right does not support what the highlighted panel on the left claims. This is a complete case of tell not show. Even the dumbest amateur mangaka could have half baked it by just making the ice transparent so we can see Todoroki on the other side.

Explains why everyone is cutting their dicks off.

Like Deku?

You ask me spanking isn’t abuse. In fact kids today need it

Why would anyone expect anything from cape shit when One Piece manga sales alone makes more bank than almost half of the American comic book industry outside of movies?

I still don't agree with you but good on you for pulling up evidence to support your argument.

Also, does anything in illegals really count? I thought its canonicity was dubious at best?

And yet,
-It doesn't explain that Enji didn't recognise him
-It doesn't explain why Shoto didn't recognise him
-It doesn't explain why nobody recognises his quirk
-It doesn't explain why nobody on the hero registry has connected what should be easy dots to Enji
-It doesn't explain why he is so enamoured with Stain
-It doesn't explain the logical conflict of him hating both Shoto AND Enji (if he hates Enji, why hate Shoto when Shoto also hates Enji? If he hates Shoto by 'taking' Enji away from the family, why does he hate Enji? If he hates both, why not try to kill Shoto on the way out?)
-It doesn't explain why the Todoroki residance hasn't been directly attacked (not even him needing to linger around), when he is shown actively seeking people to kill
-It doesn't explain why Touya's diappearence from the family is treated (in relative terms at the very least) so lacklustrely
-It doesn't explain why Touya's ''consitution'' was described as his quirk's weakness, when Dabi's is his self-immolation-with-time and is otherwise a strong-willed and healthy person (>inb4 basic motion sickness is what a runt of a litter manifests as)

All of which (and the previous points) are explained by the idea ''he's a just dedicated edgy Stain fanboy with a fire quirk''. In fact, I find more creedance in the theory that he's got a skingraft-copycat quirk akin to Monoma/Toga, since that at the very least explains why he describes the people he kills as 'unfit' or 'not what he's looking for' and coexists relatively peacefully with the afforementioned 'he's just an edgy Stain fanboy'

And you remind me of people who picked their nose while staring out of the window at primary school; adhominem-kun

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We can agree there are a lot of baiters who are masters of their art - in other words, master baiters - on this thread.

He just wants to be spanked red one more time

>-It doesn't explain that Enji didn't recognise him
With enji you have to explain why Endeavor was shown to have bad vision and we got confirmed he got a bad view of Dabi
>-It doesn't explain why Shoto didn't recognise him
We know he barely interacted with them. We got that confirmation always over and over again
>-It doesn't explain why nobody on the hero registry has connected what should be easy dots to Enji
Gran Torino clearly has.
>-It doesn't explain why Touya's diappearence from the family is treated (in relative terms at the very least) so lacklustrely
Screaming at the top of their lungs does not qualify as lackluster tome.
>All of which (and the previous points) are explained by the idea ''he's a just dedicated edgy Stain fanboy with a fire quirk''.
not the name
Stain never made a big deal out of his name
Also it doesn't explain why he is not following any code
It doesn't explain why he doesn't care about All Might
Spinner is the edgy stain cosplay fan. And he doesn't give a single fuck about Endeavor but he cares about All Might and Stain's code
With Dabi the stain almost just seems like an excuse. He is burning people left and right and is following no code.

´>'he's just an edgy Stain fanboy'
Explains absolutely nothing other than him being a villain. And doesn't even describe him very well
If you would list the league without names and you would talk about the stain fanboy everyone would think you would talk about spinner
I don't think Dabi has mentioned anything related to Stain outside the first introduction
Even Toga seems more dedicated.

His right hand is fine, and I think he just picked up 'Father'. Hopefully he disintegrates it rather than putting it back on his face.

Won't stop me

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this is some serious bait. were you trying to compete with this guy, but with less words?

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Which is why they'll do it.

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Aww, mommy and daddy beat you, huh? It's fine. You can be honest to yourself. No need to lie to yourself

Did your parents beat you, user? It's fine now. Don't lie to yourself about it being okay.

This. The main villain of the story being generally well off but with some daddy issues is almost as bad as Obito starting wars and massacres for his one-sided childhood crush. Shiggy looks like a spoiled little shit even more, this generic backstory wasn't needed.

samefag

Yep. Sure am. Sure you're a samefag too.

yeah and there was nothing wrong with that because i was a little shit

? The moment the dad hit Shiggy the mom had a fight with him

Because AfO told him to, speed-reader kun.

>See I am not defending Endeavor
Yes you are. By denying the extent of his abuse.

You're not already?

Wuss.

>Full length doujin of Hana fucking Shigaraki (Kid) (GT) to console him never ever