ITT: side characters who became too powerful

>side character
As early as chapter 22 she was raising flags that other girls still haven't matched. The latest chapter makes her first girl as well. Anyone cheering for Fumino or Rizu on purely meta grounds has been massively trolled by 22i.

I'm a senseifag, but come on, this chapter wasn't meant to be taken seriously from a story telling perspective, it was dumb fanservice and I fucking loved it

i guess it was planned all along but still

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>not knowing about y-san

>shilling
She should have about 35% to 40% tops for total among the top 5. The rest are from obvious duplicates.

>what is slang for samefag spam
You new here?

Is this the bokuben thread?

Karuizawa Kei from Youzitsu

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What are the odds of her winning the bowl due to her popularity?

10%

I think it's more that the main characters are more rigid in their development, whereas the authors are more free to just let the side characters develop as they write. It lets them escape the stereotypes they were originally based on and become interesting characters. It might not even be obvious to the authors, who are continually working on things week to week or month to month.

Only with a timeskip. Can't have a student dating his teacher in WSJ

Well, speaking of being powerful...

I know about him, that wasn't proxy, do you know what proxy voting means?
you being an idiot doesn't make me new

She got upstaged by Ichinose who then was took out by Arisu.

Moeman and the three bakas are three months from graduation. It'll be a short timeskip if any.

Honestly, very rarely does a side character feel interesting. Not in RomCom harem pandering trash, either.

You can't into old ass slang. i bet you take autism seriously per its medical term too.

you using slang incorrectly isn't my problem, samefag votes are samefag votes, proxy votes is someone pretending to be someone else voting, doesn't need to be massive for that

Whether they are interesting to you or not isn't the issue, it's just the fact they are more interesting than the main characters that makes them stand out.

57%

Zero. We've know the winner since 22i and the Ghost tits artist drew this together.

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>shilling when she already was the most popular in the first poll
>she should have this percentage because I say so
Based retard

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Isn't he technically the main character too?

Based Naked Apron Senpai

not until the second half

>winning the bowl
100%
>due to her popularity
0%, it was planned all along.

Might as well just make her the main character at this point.

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>Side character
stay mad Fumicuck

Seething at the truth.

And Y-san was famous because of how crazy and uncommon it was and even with that he only did 2-3k. Newfags think it happens every poll when it really doesn't, someone submitting 1k is rare in of itself. And the best part is that even if you're imaginary boogeyman is real Sensei still dominated

>still trying to push this even after being btfo so fucking hard
(You)

I thought she was the main character

A shit worthless slut

She is a side character, you idiot.

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>The rest are from obvious duplicates.
Every girl has those you braindead incel

Not even hating, but holy shit it's retarded to take time travel that wasn't meant to canon seriously.

You're right, Fumino's a side character.

Sadly, almost none. Polls don't mean jack shit when it comes to bowls, since the winner is usually decided by the author at the very beginning of the story. At best we can expect some spinoff or a new work with not!Mafuyu as the main girl.

Mafuyu alone is carrying the manga on her back
It's not a surprise that every other girl lost votes and people jumped on to the Sensei ship

Side heroine is a nicer term to use. Or sub heroine

>truth I pulled out of my ass btw

Ok, side heroine. Like Uruka.

>Has 6 Y-sans with 2k votes each
>is given a non canon chapter for fanservice
Sad!

Rizu is honestly more of a side heroine then Sensei now

That falls on the quality of the writing of the author or mangaka.

proof of these y-sans?

Don't repond seriously to retards pushing the Y-san meme because they don't like the results. Just laugh at them.

Some user needs to update this
>Fuminofags are the worst
>Everyone hates Uruka!
>There's no way Fumino can lose

What else?

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They tried to make it all about mustang-chan, but we all know who the real star was.

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anime when

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I'm not gonna spoon feed you. You should know where to look.

They normally don't mean that much but in this case it does. First of all it wasn't just a win, it was a wash, a one sided slaughter. It's impossible to ignore it at this point. And second of all; her winning is more meaningful than if, say, someone like Fumino did cause she's the sensei character who are basically destined to lose. Even if the creator wanted to do it the editor would probably tell him he can't, especially in something like WSJ. But with her victory they can see that over half of the fanbase would want to see it and probably a lot more would be ok with it. This could also explain the constant mention of "wait until you graduate". Not a guaranteed victory but I'd say it's something to consider

This is an excellent post. Her big sisters Avenger and Catalina were top tier as well.

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He can't. There's no where to "look" in the first place but he used it as a deflection tactic cause he can't provide any reasonable evidence. He's just trying to cope right now

Botan best girl

>dem buttmad muh Fummy boogeyman replies at OP for calling Sensei a side character even though every girl besides the main heroine is technically a side character
>dem attacks at people that dared point out common fact about JUMP and multiple votes do happen
Lel

>responded to agree with yourself because nobody did
Yikes.

>since the winner is usually decided by the author at the very beginning of the story
Good thing it's nothing like this for Bokuben. There is no pre-determined winner here you fucking brainlet, this ain't 5Toubun. Tsutsui is not dropping hints left and right towards a pre-determined end girl. Bokuben is just a series about cute girls doing cute things. It's an episodic series and you faggots really need to get this fucking hammered into your heads.

>Muh Y-sans
>Muh proxy
Obligatory

instead of milking her popularity, the author got butthurt and it led to the decline of his series

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Wasn't it the fact that every girl had the main girl beat that made him butthurt?

22i pointed out a Y-san individual that sent in 1k in the previous poll. The guy is obviously back and upped hos game.

Yeah, his brilliant idea to make people finally like Houki was write a bunch of volumes where the other girls become such massive cunts that Houki looks better in comparison.
Why not just make Houki less violent and abusive? I don't think anyone has the answer to that question, least of all the author.

It's funny 'cause Nisekoi was serialized in WSJ, and that manga had 3 known samefag voters.

Never because Gainax are shit

gabriel who?

>New poll only had 4K more votes than the previous one
>Every other character except imouto lost several hundred votes, minimum

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Even if you subtract 10,000 votes, Sensei still wins. And in the final Nisekoi poll they pointed out when someone got a lot of samefag votes. They didn't this time.

Mafuyufags are needlessly insecure in here. It's not like removing dup votes will remove Mafuyu from 1st place. Rather, it is the principle of the issue that matters.

That just means 6,000+ people stopped voting because this manga got boring and predictable.

way to go user, you completely failed to comprehend the problem. You delusional retard

Check your math. Almost 5k increase of total votes AND a missing 4k that originally belonged to the other 4 heroines. It doesn't require a Sherlock to connect the dots like a detective.

>Almost 5k increase of total votes AND a missing 4k that originally belonged to the other 4 heroines. It doesn't require a Sherlock to connect the dots like a detective.
Yeah, know what that means you braindead retard? People switched over to Mafuyu, is that so hard for you to comprehend? Your waifu is shit you basement dweller.

Get. Over. It.

>Y-san individual
>10k difference between the first and the second place
Did he really need to outvote the entire Fumino fanbase? Fucking brutal.

This.

It's not about dropping hints or romantic developments, but initial idea. When you write a story, you have some goal in mind. This is where this "first girl wins" thing comes from. The girl doesn't win because she was first, she is first because she's the designated winner and existed at the concept stage. I have a hard time believing that 22i just randomly decided to write a romance without any romantic endgame in mind.

Retards, or should I say the two or three butthurt foomshits pushing their narrative in another thread after being btfo into oblivion. Keep coping with a retarded theory with zero bases and evidence.
>I-I don't like the result!
>Y-saaaaan!

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>foomer upvoting himself
Every time

>she is first because she's the designated winner and existed at the concept stage
There is nothing like that! He literally says in his interview in Taiwan, that he'd leave it to the gods? Know why? Cause it ain't fucking important to what he's writing.

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Nope. Stay mad.

>t-they ALL switched to Sensei, that's all
>there's nothing suspicious about not even one vote to show an increase for any of the other four at all despite a 5k overall increase of voters
You're coping hard. You're right about one thing, and it's they: the person or persons that sent in dups for the others during the first poll have switched to Mafuyu. Hence the point.

No one cares about your boogeyman witch hunt, you damn autist.

seeretarded incel

your ass?

Why would I be mad?
You're the one trying to convince people about your baseless Y-san theory.

Obsessed and seething.

That's rich coming from a turbo-autist using an "imaginary person" in order to cope with the fact that his waifu is shit. You're the only one with a boogyman here you braindead retard.

>ultra loyal jap waifufags switching sides EVER
are you aware of how retarded you sound?

Continue coping incel. You are so fucking blinded by your tears you don't even realize how fucking improbable the situation is you are trying to force with zero evidence. Stay delusinal.

>person who bought over a thousand votes and has HANDWRITTEN all of them just casually switched over to Mafuyu and decided to mass-vote the already blatantly obvious winner
Don't bother user, he's so far lost in his coping, he can't even think straight.

>buzzwords instead of being reasonable.
see>foomshits think they have any gall to call any faggot unreasonable when they are literally trying to push for an imaginary boogyman with zero evidence and bases
Are you pretending to be retarded?

Duplicate votes exist for literally every girl, the magazine encourages it, but when people are saying that it's just Y-sans focused on sensei then they deserve to be called out

They're the ones who are too insecure

I love Rizu

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Good argument.

Fumino is shit.

Fumino is shit.

seeread the posts you turbo-autist.

> refuse to believe Senseifriends would pull a stupid and take the fan created chapter that they voted for with its WTF time travel into the past sci-fi pulled out of thin air as anything but pure, nonsensical fanservice. After all, it dismissed itself in the end for good reasons.
seeread the post retard

She's not a main heroine though. The main heroines are Fumino, Rizu, and Uruka. Why else do you think are they the members of Study?

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The quintessential overpowered side character
>irrelevant side character for some edgy early 00s seasonal psychological horror anime
>becomes so popular that she gets a 7 episode moe magical girl spin-off which gets its own TV anime spin-off
>overshadows the original edgy anime in quality and popularity
>to the point more people have watched the spin-off than the main series
>spin-off becomes the basis of modern moe and ingrained in otaku culture

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Even a tripfag is correct.

>I-I'm not samefagging
>both posts conveniently get deleted
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

She's a side heroine.

>still seething each other when the author stops controlling his arc effectively

Bokubenfag, I know you don’t have a thread now, but please make a general one and gtfo

Duplicate votes and Y-san are different things, you know. Sensei can have both. A "Y-san" is simply a waifufag that sent in hundreds or a few thousands of votes.

>Deleted
lol

>sensei no shiri ga tsuyosugitte chiOchin ga gaman dekinai

>A "Y-san" is simply a waifufag that sent in hundreds or a few thousands of votes.
SeeAnd it's still so very funny that you don't realize how retarded that theory is without any bases or evidence

>this is our new temp thread
I love Fumino.

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It's about time really he got punished for shitting up the threads repeatedly after shitposting every thread after the poll. Pathetic.

I'm not checking, but if this thread isn't a hundred and three pictures of Gabo I'ma be pissed.

We know, Reiji.

Kys

ISSHIKI IROHA

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>Duplicate votes and Y-san are different things, you know
I don't think you've read my post cause that's literally what I was saying

Mafuyu and Uruka best girls

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>Salty faggot mod is deleting shit
HAHAHAHAHA

I'm well aware of Y-san's origins. Thanks.
>without bases or evidence
Evidence is a privilege. JUMP doesn't advertise them anymore, obviously due to it being unprofessional and enabling otaku with money to sway the outcome. But basis is fair play and I'd say the 2.2 * is just too much to not have considerable dup votes from a very crazed waifufag. In addition to a 50% subtraction to other heroines total number that apparently transfered into Sensei's sum.

Let's just talk about why Fumino and Rizu are such total failures as main girls instead.

They were never main girls. Sensei has been the stealth main girl since day one. 22i did say the main girl wouldn't be obvious.

Fumino is not well thought out
Rizu is not well executed

>it's just Y-sans focused
>just
You said only Y-san. I'm pretty sure nobody said that all of her dup votes came from a singular person. Y-san could be a guy who sent the most out of all the other fans that sent in one or some or a couple of dozens. Most arguments I've seen land at the 3-4k range (not a total stretch imo) average for dup votes, and the "Y-san" guy would simply be behind most of them, that's all.

>In addition to a 50% subtraction to other heroines total number that apparently transfered into Sensei's sum.
Which boils down to
>my waifu lost votes
>it can't possibily be because they were won over by Sensei
>no, it can only be explained by a very rare dedicated turbo autist mass-voting for the already blatantly obvious winner of the polls.
For further reference, read these three posts and maybe you'd start understanding that nobody is doubting the existence of duplicate votes. Your theory based on nothing but your taste and I and apperently a lot of other people are not going to sit by and watch you make dubious assumption based on nothing. The confirmed Y-dan by Tsutsui had 1000 votes "handwritten" if you want to still have your way, take those away from Mafuyu's total and she'd still have over 13k.

You are agueing with delusions about a moot point

She's not most popular. Yukino is.

Just beat practically every reader's heart

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So it boils down to taste arguing over what you consider is a moot point. You recognize duplicate voting is normal and encourage, but when an unprecedented and drastic discrepancy that's too protruding to ignore, you are will to turn the other cheek, even rationalize that the other girls are shit so losing votes is normal... Well, if you're going to act like then, you're right, it is a moot point.
>1k
That was for the old poll. It doesn't apply to the latest one.

>You said only Y-san
No I didn't, read my post. I was making fun of the people who did

>I'm pretty sure nobody said that all of her dup votes came from a singular person
They're attributing him as the main cause for the gap. Which is retarded

>Most arguments I've seen land at the 3-4k range (not a total stretch imo)
But it is a stretch. The actual Y-san only did 2-3k TOPS and he became famous cause of how crazy that was. Thinking that there's someone else doing that just cause it happened once is retarded, let alone thinking he's surpassed the original Y-san. People don't know how much 4k really is. And to do this for a girl who was already winning by a decent gap? Yeah, sounds kind of dumb, doesn't it?

>Y-san could be a guy who sent the most out of all the other fans that sent in one or some or a couple of dozens. Most arguments I've seen land at the 3-4k range (not a total stretch imo) average for dup votes, and the "Y-san" guy would simply be behind most of them, that's all.
>He's still going
>He's still going with his imaginary boogyman
1. You have zero evidence about any of the assumptions your making, they are literally your headcanon
2. Y-san is an incredibily rare accurance and not a common thing to be used as a coping mechanism
3. Mass-voting implies mass handwriting hundereds or thousands votes
4. Y-sans are dedicated waifufags who's never switch to another girl. The majority of votes lost by the other girls is simply from fags switching over.
5. The fact that it's garuanteed that every girl has duplicate posts makes it a moot point to argue about.
6. If you even consider all the new voters as your boogyman, Mafuyu would still stay in 10k votes, which would display the same image still

Stop argueing a moot point

>become more popular
>get more scenes in volume 12 and 13
>she still remains a one dimensional character and a plot device
>Prom arc becomes the worst arc in the series as a result

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>That was for the old poll. It doesn't apply to the latest one.
I couldn't have said it better myself you turbo autist. It doesn't indeed, so argueing about your imaginary boogyman because you "don't like" the results is the literal definition of coping.

It's obvious most of the votes for sensei came from Yuiga-San

>Can combine with ghosts
>Perfected armor
>Can fight 1-on-1 with a literal god
How can other girls compete with the perfection that is HIBARI?

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There was rigging.
3,000 rigged votes for Fumino

Yes, you were saying that they said that. But I don't see it. I don't think Y-san voter is entirely responsible for all the duplicate votes either, only just most obviously, which is different. You misunderstand, it's most of the 3-4k, not all of them. It stands to reason.

See

But duplicate voting and Y-sans are completely fucking different. Duplicate voting is encouraged and literally exists for every girl while Y-san is a boogeyman

This
It's amazing how she still has fans after her atrocious arc

What proof do you to support in full confidence the same guy is absent in this poll? You don't. Moot point indeed. But you should know you are the one that gets riled up. Your tone and attitude says everything.

Maybe stop meta posting and maybe the mods wouldn't have to clean up your shitposting.

Editor-san here. Fumino, Rizu, Uruka, Asumi had very little duplicate votes. On the other hand, Mafuyu had a lot of them.

You can't read. >boogeymam
22i has acknowledge there was one. There is no saying that he isn't still around.

For that manga the crown falls squarely on Shinsuke's head. Author literally had to hook him to the ground so he couldn't keep being best boy at all times.

Yeah, Iroha is worst girl.

>I don't think Y-san voter is entirely responsible for all the duplicate votes either, only just most obviously, which is different. You misunderstand, it's most of the 3-4k, not all of them. It stands to reason.
But having most of 3-4k would imply around 2k which is still ridiculous and in need of any evidence to claim. Just cause Y-san did it before doesn't mean it'll happen again, not even series like OP have people who duplicate that much

Also are you implying that Sensei has 10-11k even disregarding all duplicate votes? That's even more amazing cause you can bet you're ass that all of the other girls have them too

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>You misunderstand, it's most of the 3-4k, not all of them. It stands to reason.
It doesn't stand to reason you literal braindead retard! There is no reasoning with you, no logic, no evidence because it's all created upon baseless assumption. What the fuck don't you understand about this
>2. Y-san is an incredibily rare accurance and not a common thing to be used as a coping mechanism
>3. Mass-voting implies mass handwriting hundereds or thousands votes
>4. Y-sans are dedicated waifufags who's never switch to another girl. The majority of votes lost by the other girls is simply from fags switching over
And this
>But it is a stretch. The actual Y-san only did 2-3k TOPS and he became famous cause of how crazy that was. Thinking that there's someone else doing that just cause it happened once is retarded, let alone thinking he's surpassed the original Y-san. People don't know how much 4k really is. And to do this for a girl who was already winning by a decent gap? Yeah, sounds kind of dumb, doesn't it?
Your literal rebutals boil down to childishly throwing a hissy-fit because you don't like the results. Nothing you have presented or "said" stands to reason. You can't make statement with
>well it makes sense because I think so
You need to wake-up

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>he's getting angrier

>First of all it wasn't just a win, it was a wash, a one sided slaughter
What do you mea-

>1st place: 14598
>2nd place: 3259
What the FUCK

>You can't read.
No retard, my point was that you're point of saying because duplicate votes are acknowledged then a Y-san should be acknowledged is dumb, they're two completely different things. Also literally all of the girls have duplicate votes

>22i has acknowledge there was one. There is no saying that he isn't still around.
And is there any proof of him voting for Mafuyu? Or that he is still even around in the first place?

>confirmed ESL
I am trying to explain to you for the goddamned tenth time now that you are not making "any" sense. I am getting riled up because it feels like I am talking to a brick-wall who doesn't understad something as basic as
>when you make statement, you need to back them up
(You) are doing no such thing. You arr just sperging on and on about how you think it makes sense for an imaginary boogyman to switch to another girl, buy thousands of votes, handwrite "all of them" and support the already blatantly most popular character.

user, you need to start making sense or if you can't do that. Stop replying.

I remember someone insisted that the 1 at the beginning was a typo because he just couldn't believe how much she crushed it. And the best part is that even if you did remove the 10,000, sensei would still win by a large margin

She has made history as the most votes female in shounen jump, she truly is /ourqueen/

>Zenkichi in 8
this is sad

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user, let's both ignore him. It's just an ESL. Just let him talk, it's not worth it.

But destroying their retarded delusions is fun and I can post these threads later to show how cancer they are. It's not even hard, a literal toddler could rebuttal those arguments

>the most votes female in shounen jump
Seriously? Not even Nisekoi? Not some chick from the Big 3 at some point going by numbers alone?

>doesn't mean it'll happen again
Why not? If Nisekoi showed us anything, it's they do. It's ridiculous to even spend money to send in a 100, let alone a thousand. Yet, there are fans out there who do and are willing to spend that kind of money. Don't frget, the original Y-san over 2k sent that we know of and no doubt more in the last poll which wasn't announced.

Just like how you find it ridiculous, when news broke of Sensei having over 14k, that is self was ridiculous because it counted as the most in all JUMP history for female character. Bokuben isn't remotely popular enough to even produce that kind of falling for one character thus enhances the unbelievable results that must have had a considerable amount of dups.

You have no proof of your own and yet act like you have the higher ground with your own circular reason. You are already resorting to ad hominem as well. You clearly don't to be serious and reasonable about this. Since you won't bother then I won't either.

No, you're confused. The premise with why there must be a Y-san among dup votes comes from the ridiculous and unprecedented number of votes a low to mod tier manga character in WSJ got. It's naive to reject that there wasn't a Y-san tier voter in play.
>And is there any proof of him voting for Mafuyu? Or that he is still even around in the first place?
You answered with a question that did not provide an argument to prove he still isn't around. Through it looks like neither side has actual proof then. And yet you guys love acting morally superior

Cute, but I explained it and countered your whole absence of evidence argument quite soundly. What you're doing is just deflecting

Have you even read this one>You recognize duplicate voting is normal and encourage, but when an unprecedented and drastic discrepancy that's too protruding to ignore, you are will to turn the other cheek
I know it's hilarious. But he's very clearly dodging to explain himself with actual evidence and just resorts ti
>I think it doesn't make sense that Mafuyu got all those lost votes, therefore, it can only be explained by an incredibily rare Y-san who mass voted the already most popular character with 3-4k votes handwritten votes
>yes this makes sense
He's far to sad to take seriously. He's just annoying.

>Foompanzees are now on permanent suicide watch because their old battlecry of "muh WSJ editors! muh sales!" has turned against them
>we got JKfuyu and loliharu this week
>and we get a fun Uruka chapter next week
feels good man

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The one who had it before was Rukia from Bleach at 7.8k which Mafuyu almost doubled. Nisekoi and the big 3 have more overall voters but the votes are more distributed among the characters, while over half of the fanbase agreed that Sensei was the best girl

Truly the definition of based

Fellow user, just ignore the turbo-autist

Mafuyufags BTFO

The amount of anons giving a shit about random sol shit is staggering, good luck holding few hundred more chapters until worst girl wins, every fucking time (except ichigo)

>""""SIDE"""" CHARACTER
OP pls.

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is this a bokuben thread or what

Not the fellow user but I agree. Juster him sperg his delusions. I'd say he'll grow tired but he won't.

Jesus, the way things are looking the author might actually get lynched if he doesn't write a sensei end. Dunno what an open end would cause, but that's probably his best option.

My wife Maho is adorable

It can be what you want it to be

You know, instead of patting yourself or each othet on the back, perhaps you should proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no Y-san despite the ridiculous and unbelievable amount of votes a character like Sensei achieved. That is totally not suspicious at all.

bokuben really should just be a 24/7 general like 5toubun

>190473350
You first.

Maho is better than every girl posted in this thread.

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@190473404
Nice try, but try harder.

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Best girl. Sagiri a shit.

Or perhaps you should provide proof without a shadow of a doubt there is a y-san? Oh wait you cant because it's all purely speculation and headcanon, understandable. You're literally the only sperg caring about this. Even the nip Fuminofags dont think theres a y-san or give a shit. When its just you, its pathetic.

the Giant Queen was best girl, but she is also good

first post
best post

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Running away while patting yourself on the back is a sign of apprehension. But if you want to play that game then all right then. I guess you will win if you are able to ignore arguments you don't like. If you can, that is.

>meta-posting
Congrats Bokubenfags, you're almost as bad as Gridmanfags.

She was one of the few good things that Zero had.

>Jesus, the way things are looking the author might actually get lynched if he doesn't write a sensei end.
Good thing that's been in the works for a while.

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A sensei end is his best option

She's just that powerful.

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>Why not? If Nisekoi showed us anything, it's they do
It was pretty much one person who became famous because of how crazy it was. There's no reason to just assume it'll happen again so easily

>It's ridiculous to even spend money to send in a 100, let alone a thousand
I agree, which is why you're argument is retarded

>Yet, there are fans out there who do and are willing to spend that kind of money
Only a select rare few. You're acting like it's completely natural even when it isn't

>Don't frget, the original Y-san over 2k sent that we know
Yeah, and that was an anomaly

>and no doubt more in the last poll which wasn't announced.
Considering her vote count in the last poll, that doesn't hold any water

>Bokuben isn't remotely popular enough to even produce that kind of falling for one character thus enhances the unbelievable results that must have had a considerable amount of dups.
It's because she had the majority of the votes. Bokuben only had 25k but almost everybody voted for Sensei and a lot even jumped ship from other girls. The more popular series have a better distribution of votes which is why they aren't as high as hers

>You have no proof of your own and yet act like you have the higher ground with your own circular reason. You are already resorting to ad hominem as well. You clearly don't to be serious and reasonable about this. Since you won't bother then I won't either.
Burden of proof. You make a claim you back it up, it's not other's job to disprove it

>It's naive to reject that there wasn't a Y-san tier voter in play.
Not really considering everybody else lost votes despite their being 4K more voters. Anybody with a brain can deduce what happened, hence why 2chan isn't having this dumb boogeyman debate

>You answered with a question that did not provide an argument to prove he still isn't around. Through it looks like neither side has actual proof then. And yet you guys love acting morally superior
Burden of proof retard

That dopey smile of hers is precious, can't wait for the next chapters.

You see it doesn't work that way because I'm not the one claiming absence of evidence is evidence of absence. But you are and you are undeniably upset about the likely and sound reason of one of the dup voters being a Y-san tier voter. Oh but not even that, you are even agitated by the notion that Sensei may have 3-4k of duplicate votes. It's not a stretch since that only takes less than 1/4 of her voters to send in one extra vote.

they can't

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I'm willing to bet 95% of Yea Forumsnons have never read her manga.

Ok, aren’t we at an impasse? Foomfag cant prove an army of Y-San exists, Senseichads can’t prove Y-san does NOT exist

God no, this fanbase is bad and all but I'm glad we haven't stooped THAT low at least

It’s just so hard to forget Botan. She has a genki prototype yet manages to be sensitive and considerate in the same time. SHE IS PERFECT

Is it a french/japanese mangaka that made radiant? It always has a different vibe going for it, sad that translations have stopped right now. No idea about the raws situation of it.

Nope, foompanzee ESL loses by default because the burden of proof is on him to prove a Y-san exists.

What kind of slut worms her way under a guy's armpit as an ambush?

The Fuminofag is trying his hardest to force the notion of a Y-san for Sensei existing in Bokuben, not because he doubts Mafuyu is the most popular, but because his waifu got utterly BTFO and lost the most votes out of all the girls compared to the first poll, and he needs something to cope.
This is the power of an utterly garbage arc, ladies and gentlemen.

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I agree with many people here that the Russians done it with the proxy voting.
You're all a huge bunch of retards in this thread, the guy who mentioned people switched their choices has it right, as well as margin of errors for outlier autists in these pen paper polls.

You are the one that brought up fake votes and y-san in the first place. And now we have to provide evidence because you say so. What? You cant provide any evidence he did anything on the poll except baseless accusation and headcanon. So yes you should provide evidence. Again you're literally the only one caring about this. Even if she has the 4k fake votes she still destroys the others, hell take away 10k and shes still in the lead. I dont know why you're so obsessed when the result is the same even taking away the 4k; Mafuyu destroyed your trash waifu. You know it's sad when the nips are just enjoying the polls without spergs like you going off on one.

>You see it doesn't work that way because I'm not the one claiming absence of evidence is evidence of absence
That's not how it works retard, you made a claim and when asked you to back it up you failed to do so. Therefore making it you're headcanon

>But you are and you are undeniably upset about the likely and sound reason of one of the dup voters being a Y-san tier voter
Yes, cause Y-san was an anomaly

>Oh but not even that, you are even agitated by the notion that Sensei may have 3-4k of duplicate votes. It's not a stretch since that only takes less than 1/4 of her voters to send in one extra vote.
So then have you dropped you're retarded "Y-san being the majority" theory? Cause nobody is denying she has duplicate voters but here's the thing; so do the others. If you wanna apply you're logic to sensei apply it the everybody else as well

>But you are and you are undeniably upset about the likely and sound reason of one of the dup voters being a Y-san tier voter.
You truly are a special breed of retardation, aren't you? It's either that or you actually believe you're right here. How do you delude yourself in asking the other party to disprove you, when you are the one making baseless statements? I just don't get it. Your reasoning boils down to
>"I think there is a Y-san here because I don't like the results".
>proof there is a Y-san
>DUDE: tRuSt Me
How are you not seeing the sheer hypocrisy in your post?

do they call each other mafuyu and nariyuki-senpai throughout the chapter

Both keks that will lose, popularity has never helped the kek cause. Especially fake popularity by hyper autistic fans.

I think the group doing it is doing the volume releases so they'll get back to work on it when the next volume comes out.

>Senseichads can’t prove Y-san does NOT exist
? Why would they have to? That's not how arguments work

>one person
Are you new? There's also F-san and K-san. This isn't just blinding shooting in the dark. We already have one fan who sent in 1k in the last poll. Being that, the ball is actually in your court and you have to make the case that it wouldn't happen again. But in the end, you'd be exactly where you are now, clamoring about no evidence.
>Only a select rare few. You're acting like it's completely natural even when it isn't
Strawman. If it was, then Sensei wouldn't be the only one who seemingly has one, now would it? You call it rare, yet why dismiss this time as rare? And what about the previous poll where there was a guy who sent in 1k.
>anomaly
And Sensei having over 14k isn't? Do you even hear yourself?
>Considering her vote count in the last poll
Y-san clearly didn't sent in enough. Doesn't mean the guy who is obsessed with her would skip a beat with his track record.
> The more popular series have a better distribution of votes which is why they aren't as high as hers
Rationalization. If she was that popular, then she should have a much higher ratio in the first poll. What we have here is an anomaly. Given all the chapters the other girls got and the anime, it's unbelievable that none of them would see a slight increase. It's not like Sensei turned into a masterpiece character overnight to warrant being able to produce that kind of attraction. Even twitter don't show that kind of force.
>Burden of proof.
Logic and reasoning were already given. But unlike you, I don't act like there's evidence to the contrary. Since you make a point about evidence, where is your evidence that there isn't any?
>everybody else lost votes despite their being 4K more voters.
That contributes to the signs of duplicate votes that were lost and given to Mafuyu. You're simply bias for Mafuyu so you don't see it. Yes, you can say I'm bias in return, but that gives me another perspective instead following suit as a waifufag for Sensei.
>Burden of proof
See above.

Stop seething dyke

I've read this twice and I literally don't even remember what main girl's name is

>Bokubenbro tries to discuss the manga in the midst of the shitstorm
What a good lad, however this was not THE thread; we'll have to wait later for the chapter

Botan

Bokuben is fucking cringe tbqh

That would be so cute.

>they said they'll ignore him because he's wrong
>can't even do that
Guise....

>fake popularity by hyper autistic fans.
You're literally the only autist claiming the popularity is fake.

>it was, then Sensei wouldn't be the only one who seemingly has one, now would it? You call it rare, yet why dismiss this time as rare? And what about the previous poll where there was a guy who sent in 1k.
>it was, then Sensei wouldn't be the only one who seemingly has one, now would it?
What? Seemingly had one? Again, ON WHAT GROUNDS? EXPAIN YOURSELF.
>And Sensei having over 14k isn't? Do you even hear yourself
No, it isn't cause her popularity reflects that. You're agruments are
>I "don't like" the results, so therefore it HAS to be a Y-san
You have no arguments, no assumptions but only headcanons flueled by butthurt. Bravo user.

>We already have one fan who sent in 1k in the last poll
Wheres your proof he voted this time and at the same volume
Wheres the image that supports it

Not that guy but want to ask : when did theory become canon? Unless the author himself or Jump editors inform that Mafuyu’s votes this time are fake, insisting this is true without any official evidence is just too pathetic.

Is this her second time winning or something?

Yeah she won the first poll too.

>Still no proof
>only baseless accusiations
>no arguments
You even admit that your entire bases for this retarded theory is a headcanon
>If it was, then Sensei wouldn't be the only one who seemingly has one, now would it?
Imagine being so fucking retarded you make statements and ask others to proof you wrong when you're the one making the statements.

I was searching on boards fireden and found that even the last chapter did not generate the hype I’d imagine. Maybe it just better stays axed and unpopular

but Botan is forever. Holy shit man her cuteness is hard to be recreated

>there are Y-sans
>and K-sans and F-sans
>but the voted for the second, third and fourth place respectively
>Jump decided to keep it hidden because the loss is too great for harem romcom and if the duplicate results are removed the losers will fall down to 3 digits

TIL tbqh I/O desu

I read it.

>Just like how you find it ridiculous, when news broke of Sensei having over 14k, that is self was ridiculous because it counted as the most in all JUMP history for female character. Bokuben isn't remotely popular enough to even produce that kind of falling for one character thus enhances the unbelievable results that must have had a considerable amount of dups.
>No, you're confused. The premise with why there must be a Y-san among dup votes comes from the ridiculous and unprecedented number of votes a low to mod tier manga character in WSJ got. It's naive to reject that there wasn't a Y-san tier voter in play.
This is false. Nisekoi polls had similar total of votes but the distribution was more even for each girl and the heroines were popular on her own.
On the other hand, Mafuyu is pretty much the only girl Bokuben mangafags give a fuck about at this point, which is why with similar total votes she has a much higher vote count, enough to make her a legend in JUMP history. The other girls are worthless in comparison.

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You're still replying to me huh. So much for that. You can miconsture, but it won't mean you can get away with it. I already presented the premise which my argument is built upon with the abnormality and discrepancy and unprecedented amount of votes in all of JUMP. I present reasonable doubt. It's your turn to make your case. Beyond that, since you act like there is evidence to show that there is no Y-san who produced a huge amount of dups, that should be your main case to argue.
>obssessed
I can say the same about you. If it's only 4k, why are you so upset and willing to argue a moot point over and over again until you get hot and bothered? I do it for the principle, so what's your reason aside from obvious waifufag reasons?

See See above, genius.
>I don't think there is a Y-san because I like the results
>Prove a negative
>See? You can't
How classy.

Source?

Source? Saucenao and google turn up nothing.

It's just that. He has nothing but expects sensei fags to provide evidence against it. Who knows: Tsutsui COULD announce that there were fake votes but until then he has nothing.

Gotobun no Quintuplets is the official romanization

yeah, most of the discussion here is from other girls' fags who are blaming a boogeyman with zero evidence trying to justify losing like this, they seem incapable of acknowledging the results, all the other girls lost votes in comparison to the previous poll despite this poll having more total votes

Just shitposting. People getting worked up by popularity results is funny, no matter what the medium is.

You think ad hominem and going around in circles without even making your own argument deters me, don't you? I'll play your game. Once again.
>over 2 x times the discrepancy from what she had in the 1st poll
>most, if not virtually all the duplicates vanished from the other girls
>wants people to believe Sensei had not only those dups from other girls, but practically all 5k votes from the increased in total from the previous poll
>a heroine from a low-mid tier popular manga is able to become the most voted female character in all of JUMP
Let's not forget you don't deny duplicate is normal, but refuse to accept that this not one of those rare times where there is a Y-san voter. And that's in spite of the fact the first poll had one. Now where is your case to disprove these reasonable doubts? Since you keep shouting for evidence, you must have evidence to be so certain and confidence beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no Y-san or even mass duplicates.

Read above. Seriously, is this all you guys can do? Repeat your own circular logic and not even address your own case?

What canon? It's what I believe based on reasonable doubts. It's actually ridiculous to not having any doubts whatsoever and to insist it's all legit.

Again, see above. You and the first guy literally make the same arguments, down to writing style. I wonder....
>absence of evidence argument
You keep using that, yet you think you are free from proving that yourself? Really?

>Are you new? There's also F-san and K-san
Are you? They weren't even close to the scale of Y-san, hence why nobody talks about them

>You call it rare, yet why dismiss this time as rare?
Because it is? Just cause it happens once doesn't mean it should be expected to happen again

>And what about the previous poll where there was a guy who sent in 1k.
That, in of itself is rare and there's literally no guarantee that he has the time or money to do it again. Especially when Sensei was already by far first place

>And Sensei having over 14k isn't? Do you even hear yourself?
No, cause literally every character lost votes despite the total increasing by 4k. It doesn't take Einstein to figure out where they went

>Y-san clearly didn't sent in enough. Doesn't mean the guy who is obsessed with her would skip a beat with his track record.
So then you're argument about him sending in more in the last poll is moot? Do you even understand what's going on?

>If she was that popular, then she should have a much higher ratio in the first poll
She was already way ahead and you're also forgetting that the poll was right after her arc

>Given all the chapters the other girls got and the anime, it's unbelievable that none of them would see a slight increase
On the contrary they lost votes while sensei gained them. Geez I wonder what happened

>It's not like Sensei turned into a masterpiece character overnight to warrant being able to produce that kind of attraction
Her arc happened, which was the culmination of all of her buildup

>Logic and reasoning were already given
And instantly debunked

>Since you make a point about evidence, where is your evidence that there isn't any?
Look up what burden of proof means

>That contributes to the signs of duplicate votes that were lost and given to Mafuyu
Yeah, the girls lost votes and they went to sensei. You can't prove whether they were all duplicates and you're theory assumes that the first poll had thousands of duplicates

>And that's in spite of the fact the first poll had one
Yeah, one who sent 1000 votes, and Fumino coincidentally lost around 1000 votes in the second poll.
I understand why you're absolutely devastated, but don't embarrass yourself any further.

>I already presented the premise which my argument is built upon with the abnormality and discrepancy and unprecedented amount of votes in all of JUMP. I present reasonable doubt
And that was already all countered

>Beyond that, since you act like there is evidence to show that there is no Y-san who produced a huge amount of dups, that should be your main case to argue.
Burden of proof, buddy

>I can say the same about you. If it's only 4k, why are you so upset and willing to argue a moot point over and over again until you get hot and bothered? I do it for the principle, so what's your reason aside from obvious waifufag reasons?
It might have something to do with you making claims with no evidence?

>See
See >See above, genius.
>>I don't think there is a Y-san because I like the results
>>Prove a negative
>>See? You can't
>How classy.
This post is exactly why burden of proof exists. You can't tell someone to prove they didn't murder somebody and expect that to work, you first need to prove something

I don't know, she kind of sucks.

Is she a virgin?

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this takes me back

Nah

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>over 2 x times the discrepancy from what she had in the 1st poll
Cause the poll was right after her arc, everybody expected a big increase

>most, if not virtually all the duplicates vanished from the other girls
The assumption that they're all duplicate votes that got transferred is headcanon

>>wants people to believe Sensei had not only those dups from other girls, but practically all 5k votes from the increased in total from the previous poll
Considering that all of the characters lost votes despite the 4k increase shows that that is the only reasonable explanation. If the others also has an increase in votes then maybe you'd have a point

>>a heroine from a low-mid tier popular manga is able to become the most voted female character in all of JUMP
Already explained. It's the distribution, not the popularity. If you put her on the poll with every JUMP character you can bet your ass she wouldn't still be the top voted female anymore

>Let's not forget you don't deny duplicate is normal
Cause it is

>but refuse to accept that this not one of those rare times where there is a Y-san voter
Cause that's a different thing entirely

>Since you keep shouting for evidence, you must have evidence to be so certain and confidence beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no Y-san or even mass duplicates.
Burden of proof

>Read above. Seriously, is this all you guys can do? Repeat your own circular logic and not even address your own case?
We already have though, now you're just spouting headcanon and we're asking for evidence, which you can't provide. You're making it super easy at this point I don't know why you're still replying

>It's what I believe based on reasonable doubts. It's actually ridiculous to not having any doubts whatsoever and to insist it's all legit.
But multiple people have already countered your points

>You keep using that, yet you think you are free from proving that yourself? Really?
Absence of evidence is different from burden of proof

>weren't even close to the scale of Y-san
False. It was explicitly stated they rivaled Y-san. Their number of votes weren't disclosed due to carpal tunnels concerns if they (especially Y-san) were to get extra competitive.
>Because it is?
After so much faux intellectual attitude, your arguments boils down to "because it is"? If I were apply my standing, you have reasonable doubts, but unlike me you have a weaker cause because we actually know there was a Y-san in the last poll. I'd ask you for proof, but it'll just be the same answer, one that you've been giving me since the start.
>That, in of itself is rare
Clearly not rare enough considering it did happen.
>Sensei was already by far first place
That's not convincing enough. There's even the fan voted scenario. Ensuring it goes through or simply to show off affection for a character are incentive reasons alone.
>cause literally every character lost votes despite the total increasing by 4k.
And where did those votes go? To Mafuyu. It's just a mere coincidence then? That's what you'd have to say to sell it.
>So then you're argument about him sending in more in the last poll is moot?
That didn't even make sense. Your conclusion and comprehension went stupid here. Simply, Y-san voted twice, why wouldn't he vote in the last poll. It was arguably the most important one. We don't know how much he sent, but clearly not enough given the outcome. That's it.

>sniffs fingers
reel tawk bokubros. Why don't more people like Asumi? She is cute, funny, smug, does cosplay, had a much better arc than fumino and rizu, and is a loli. I don't like to reee over waifus but I really do feel like she is underappreciated.

Irohasu is best girl. The others can't even compete.

Nah, she is dogshit

They do by actually contributing to arcs better than hers and not being one dimensional trash.

She's easily more fun and interesting than Rizu and Fumino.
I guess she just had the bad luck that Mafuyu had already stolen the spotlight when she was introduced, but I see a lot of anons liking her as second or third best at least. In an ideal world she would be the second most popular behind Sensei.

>She's easily more fun and interesting than Rizu and Fumino.
Not really

She has the best chemistry with 8man

>acts like a slut around him and 8man acting uninterested
>Iroha doesn't even understand what he's saying half the time
This isn't chemistry.

>She was already way ahead and you're also forgetting that the poll was right after her arc
Within reason. The doubts I have take into account of her arc. Do you see me saying she should have less than before or very little increase? No.
>On the contrary they lost votes
Keyword: they lost votes and went backwards. You act like that is normal, but it's not. Not even ONE increase anywhere. If you add up their difference between 1st poll and 2nd, it comes close to being roughly 4k. Add 5k from the total increase and it comes to about 14k. The coincidence is too much.
>Her arc happened
She's not groundbreaking and a masterpiece to warrant it. More important Bokuben isn't that popular.
>instantly debunked
No. See previous reply.
>burden of proof means
See >You can't prove whether they were all duplicates
Bottom line, you can't prove it either. Quit acting like you have the higher ground. It's obnoxious.

Fumino didn't lose 1k. Your implication does nothing. But your lack of argument despite attempts to interject and "win" by making shitpost from the side is pathetic enough.

>after her arc
Already argued.

No, she is just a manipulative cunt and most of the time Hachiman doesn't even want to hang out with her.

>headcanon
And back to square one where it's moot point because my headcanon > your headcanon. Great.
>If the others also has an increase in votes then maybe you'd have a point
Illogical. If they had an increase, then the number of votes disturbed to Mafuyu would go down. If that happened, it would be reasonable and not too obvious. Balanced even.
>put her on the poll with every JUMP character you can bet your ass she wouldn't still be the top voted female anymore
Not if the same fans followed through with their act. That's why it's ridiculous. You're assuming Sensei's waifufags would vote for other girls, but why should they? They only care about Sensei and would pick her out of the lot. This applies to other waifufags who voted for girls they liked in other JUMP titles. Sensei managed to beat them all, which is just unbelievable without help.
>Cause that's a different thing entirely
It is, but you still refuse to notice it when it's obvious.
>buden of proof
See the plot you replied to ,idiot. Get new material, or is that the only argument you know how to use?
> you can't provide
Fine, playing your dumb game, you're using headcanon and won't provide counter evidence when asked. It's easy to see you're just scared now.
>countered
Attempted to. Still waiting for your evidence.
>Absence of evidence is different from burden of proof
And? It doesn't free you from you having to DEFEND your argument. If your side is innocent, then present your case.

See? This is complete dominance and that’s what us men of culture enjoy

Yes really. Her last chapter was infinitely more fun than anything recent from either of them.

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Not for me, nor for people with working eyes, nor for people with good taste. There's a reason Rizu is still above her even in the second poll. Asumi's execution is shit.

UNF.

the last volumes were delayed for so long because it was hard for watari to write a believable iroha ending since she entered so late. this is what the prom is building up to. she is going to win

>not understanding the appeal of legal loli

I pity you

because this sensei learns very well

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I like legal lolis. I just dont like shitty characters.

hachiman is shit. he should be thanking the gods that someone like Iroha or Yui would even give him the time of day,

Faggot.

>Fumino didn't lose 1k. Your implication does nothing
Except she did. 935 votes to be exact.
This is enough to dismount any argument you may have, because it shows that even after Fumino's arc, which was supposed to boost Fumino, or at least keep her popularity intact, she still LOST popularity, meaning even your precious Foom pales in comparison to Sensei's demolishing domination. No amount of muh Y-sans or proxies cries is going to change the general outlook of the series now.

Except even in volume 12 and 13 Hachiman is still mostly interested in Yukino, and he just ignores Iroha again. Stop self-inserting and get over it.

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>loli fembro senpai
>shit character
Faggot

Runaway win

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What in the hell are you talking about

>iroha considers herself to be irrelevant in 13
>s-she will win gaiz!

why should he be thankful that two shitstains are interested in him?

>Except she did
935 is not 1k. If Y-san is the type that sends in an even 1k, then he'll go for 900, 1000, 1200, 1500 etc of even composite numbers. Your implication and attempt at slander falls short.

>be thankful
He's already saved their ass already, he doesn't have to be thankful for shit. I can already see how the ending is going to be perceived when 8man picks Yukino.

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>She's not groundbreaking and a masterpiece to warrant it. More important Bokuben isn't that popular.
She's a teacher who's an active member of a harem and gets more development than the main girls. She's groundbreaking enough for the genre. She's definitely what keeps Bokuben afloat. It makes complete sense that more than half of the total readers prefer her.

>False. It was explicitly stated they rivaled Y-san
They were his rivals in the way that they were doing the same but if they were close to him Onodera would win by a landslide. Think about it, if he didn't say that then not disclosing the votes number would be meaningless

>After so much faux intellectual attitude, your arguments boils down to "because it is"?
Because it's a fact. That's like asking "why are people acting like we're posting on Yea Forums?". The answer would be "because we are"

>but unlike me you have a weaker cause because we actually know there was a Y-san in the last poll
But you can't prove that he's still here or that he's voting for Mafuyu

>Clearly not rare enough considering it did happen.
Rare =/= impossible

>That's not convincing enough. There's even the fan voted scenario. Ensuring it goes through or simply to show off affection for a character are incentive reasons alone.
Not a reasonable incentive to spend all the time and money for that

>And where did those votes go? To Mafuyu.
THAT'S MY FUCKING POINT

> Simply, Y-san voted twice, why wouldn't he vote in the last poll
He couldn't afford to spend all that money on time for an anime poll that one time? He was disappointing in the direction Komi was taking her in and didn't bother? I really don't think you understand how much of a burden doing that is. Bottom line is the vote count doesn't match up at all

MAFUYU WILL WIN

Her execution was shit. Her chapters have no meaning. Her character is nonexistent. Her depth can be measured in millimeters. She has no definite future in this series. Removing her would change nothing.
So yes, she's a shit character

>Within reason. The doubts I have take into account of her arc
Then you're clearly ignorant to how well that arc was received. The nips liked it even more than we did

>Keyword: they lost votes and went backwards. You act like that is normal, but it's not. Not even ONE increase anywhere. If you add up their difference between 1st poll and 2nd, it comes close to being roughly 4k. Add 5k from the total increase and it comes to about 14k. The coincidence is too much.
Them losing votes is what makes it make sense though. Over time people grew to like sensei more. It's the most basic reasoning ever. Way more likely than there being a bunch of Y-sans or duplicate voter who just switched over to sensei

>She's not groundbreaking and a masterpiece to warrant it
That's your opinion and a pretty meaningless one at that. It was the culmination of setup and the nips loved it, whether you liked it or not is irrelevant. If there was a time for her to amass a following it would be after that

>No. See previous reply.
Yes, see post and the entire thread

Seriously what's the big fucking deal? Even if this Y-san actually exists, what's the difference between 10k and 15k votes? Either way Sensei is still leagues beyond the other girls in terms of popularity.

>removing her would change nothing

I agree with that part. Her isolation from the rest of the cast is so confusing that it becomes hilarious.

>935 is not 1k. If Y-san is the type that sends in an even 1k, then he'll go for 900, 1000, 1200, 1500 etc of even composite numbers. Your implication and attempt at slander falls short.
Or he simply gave up after Fumino's shitfest of an arc.
Do you realize that it's better if there's a Y-san for Fumino? Because if there wasn't one, it'd mean Fumino LOST actual popularity instead of losing the support of one dedicated fan. And those dedicated fans don't switch to other girls either so there's no evidence to assume he went for Sensei this time instead.

W-what if Y-Chan buy 13000 copies because muh Fumino win

It is not time yet.

what makes this hilarious is that the original Y-san only sent 2k votes in a single poll, so HYPOTHETICALLY if sensei has a y-san (there is zero evidence backing his existence) you could remove those 2K votes and she would still have more votes than the rest of the characters combined, and by a margin of over 1K at that
By about every measure it's an overwhelming victory

>And back to square one where it's moot point because my headcanon > your headcanon. Great.
But what I'm saying isn't headcanon

>Illogical. If they had an increase, then the number of votes disturbed to Mafuyu would go down
That's my fucking point. The results right now make sense, if the others increased and she still had the result then it would be suspect

>Not if the same fans followed through with their act
Duplicates happen for every series. You have no proof of any Y-san

>You're assuming Sensei's waifufags would vote for other girls, but why should they?
Because it's not reasonable to assume that Mafuyu is their favorite character in all of shounen jump history?

>This applies to other waifufags who voted for girls they liked in other JUMP titles. Sensei managed to beat them all, which is just unbelievable without help.
Because there was a good distribution of votes between all of the characters as opposed to this poll where it was a landslide. This poll didn't have that many voters compared to more popular series

>It is, but you still refuse to notice it when it's obvious.
No, it's just not in this case

>See the plot you replied to ,idiot. Get new material, or is that the only argument you know how to use?
I should say the same to you. Can you stop making claims without evidence?

>Fine, playing your dumb game, you're using headcanon and won't provide counter evidence when asked. It's easy to see you're just scared now.
Burden of proof. I don't have to prove that Donald Trump isn't a serial killer, you first have to prove he is. The alternative would be retarded

>Attempted to. Still waiting for your evidence.
I can say the same here

>And? It doesn't free you from you having to DEFEND your argument. If your side is innocent, then present your case.
See above

Also good idea not replying to me in hopes that I wouldn't argue you. Seriously if you're that bored of this why do you keep replying? It's just an anonymous Yea Forums argument?

She really isn't. Your standards aren't convincing.

>They were his rivals in the way that they were doing the same
That's your headcanon. It's stated they rivaled his affection. You're reading too much into it. Carpal tunnel was the concerned and the implication is to prevent them to being too competitive it'll break their hand.
>Because it's a fact.
Claiming fact now? Your analogy is incomparable and doesn't apply. Your claim is that it's rare so you know for a FACT that there is no Y-san "this" time". Where's your proof to support this fact? This is your claim, so burden of proof lies with you.
>But you can't prove that he's still here or that he's voting for Mafuyu
Reasonable cause follows. It's still stronger than you saying he isn't there this time because you say so. Given the number of votes, Mafuyu is the only like target of 1k or more votes. The others already have negative increase and have at best paltry amount of dups.
>Rare =/= impossible
You don't dismiss that it's possible, but choose to do so when there's an abnormal event that borders on ridiculous. Interesting.
>Not a reasonable incentive to spend all the time and money for that
You clearly don't know the depths of how far some waifufags are willing to go. It's a better incentive than what the previous poll offered to boot.
>THAT'S MY FUCKING POINT
Read it again. You don't agree with the premise, idiot.
>Bottom line is the vote count doesn't match up at all
There's no telling that he didn't vote at all even if we go by your assumption. Voting less still means he voted. It's his waifu after all. F-san remained strong in the last poll. Why neglect that?

>asumi chapters have no meaning
>she has no character
alright sorry its my fault for not realizing you are literally blind. Asumi in fragment of the chapters has more depth than rizu and fumino in the entire series.

It must be pretty embarrassing for a Fuminofag to have their girl lose popularity after having a long hyped up arc completely dedicated to their girl while the other girls completely disappeared for over a month.
The other girls at least have the excuse of not having their arc yet.

But isolated. Dude did you realize that removing her make absolutely no impact on the whole series

>She really isn't. Your standards aren't convincing.
Your retort isn't convincing. Explain why she isn't then, especially when you never see a teacher being an active member of a harem and overshadowing every other girl in a series that is not centered around teacher x student romance like Onegai Teacher. She's the only noteworthy thing about this otherwise bland manga.

you are still not giving evidence of this y-san you're talking about, just speculation from your part
if you claim Bigfoot exists and I tell you that he doesn't you are the one who has to prove his existence, not me proving that he doesn't, it doesn't work like that, you are trying to force your narrative with zero evidence on other people because you didn't like the results, unless you have hard evidence you can't make such claims and expect people to not challenge them

>clearly ignorant to how well that arc was received.
Not at all. I can imagine but it still doesn't reach the realm of god to make Jump history.
>Over time people grew to like sensei more.
That reasoning would only work if some of the new 5k votes slipped into the other girls, by however little. But they didn't, and that one of the main reasons why it's too suspicious. You're being a complete waifufag to say only Sensei is susceptible growing fonder of as the story and characters develop. Sensei is far from being the only one that have dokidoki chapters and characterized development. Just as you find it ridiculous to say say a Y-san didn't happen because it's rare and just because, it's even more rare. if not close to unlikely that none of the other main girls took several steps. None of the new 5k voters even batted an eye to other girls? Ridiculous. That's why dup votes makes more sense.
>That's your opinion and a pretty meaningless one at that.
Likewise. Doesn't mean what's obvious and blatant isn't so despite my opinion or yours for that matter.
>see post and the entire thread
Lazy to address the point much? You asked for it and got it, but don't care to muster up counter evidence when you are the one who keep acting like you have evidence to the contrary.

It's 14.6k, not 15k. And it's the principle that matters. Celebrating for a historical position that was reached through duplicate votes feels cheap and fake, no?

That Y-san clearly didn't vote for her. Once again, your desperate implication missed its target. Dedicated fans that send in tons of dups are never a good thing. It makes their popularity a lie. But clearly you don't seem to care in Mafuyu's case.

bokuben thread?

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I don't think there's a Y-san here, the numbers of all other characters look really sad, most of the top 20 doesn't even have a hundred of votes.

>That's your headcanon. It's stated they rivaled his affection. You're reading too much into it. Carpal tunnel was the concerned and the implication is to prevent them to being too competitive it'll break their hand.
It's reasonable assumption. It would make no sense if he were to say otherwise

>Your claim is that it's rare so you know for a FACT that there is no Y-san "this" time"
No retard, my claim was that people on the scale of Y-san are rare

>Reasonable cause follows. It's still stronger than you saying he isn't there this time because you say so
No it isn't. Someone writing 1000s letters and spending that much money on an anime poll should never be the assumption. Y-san wouldn't be famous if it was otherwise

>The others already have negative increase and have at best paltry amount of dups.
They could've kept the Y-san but lost a bunch of normal votes. Or the guy just decided to stop doing it, which is the most likely option

>You don't dismiss that it's possible, but choose to do so when there's an abnormal event that borders on ridiculous. Interesting.
Yeah, it's possible, just not likely. Which is why we're asking for evidence to prove it

>You clearly don't know the depths of how far some waifufags are willing to go
Still not proof that it happened

>Read it again. You don't agree with the premise, idiot.
No, I agree with the quoted part, but as I said that just makes her result more reasonable

>There's no telling that he didn't vote at all even if we go by your assumption
Never said otherwise

>Voting less still means he voted. It's his waifu after all
Yeah, but you claimed he voted even more. I was pointing out that that isn't the case

>F-san remained strong in the last poll. Why neglect that?
Cause that wasn't what we were talking about? Now you're just moving goalposts

>That Y-san clearly didn't vote for her. Once again, your desperate implication missed its target. Dedicated fans that send in tons of dups are never a good thing. It makes their popularity a lie. But clearly you don't seem to care in Mafuyu's case.
So Fumino lost popularity, then. The most out of all the girls who didn't even have arcs backing them up, even.
Holy fuck, how pathetic does your girl have to be to lose fans instead of captivating more of them with her character arc?
>Dedicated fans that send in tons of dups are never a good thing. It makes their popularity a lie. But clearly you don't seem to care in Mafuyu's case.
Mafuyu would still curbstomp every other girl without those hypothetical duplicated votes. They change absolutely nothing. They wouldn't even need to push the already most popular girl. Y-san was only famous because he wanted to push Marika who was less popular than the other heroines. Kosaki's F-san didn't have the same amount of dedication, not even close.
Following this line of thought, this would mean the other girls had duplicated votes in the first poll, so their popularity was actually a lie seeing how they all lost votes this time.
Instead of pulling these retarded mental gymnastics based on nothing concrete, you should just accept that a lot of othergirlfags, along with new readers, became Senseifags and be done with it.

>Not at all. I can imagine but it still doesn't reach the realm of god to make Jump history.
Yeah, it didn't. But it made her much much better than every girl in the eyes of the nips. Your opinion on the arc is irrelevant

>That reasoning would only work if some of the new 5k votes slipped into the other girls, by however little
Why is that so unlikely? Just cause they lost more than they gained doesn't mean none of the new votes were for them

>You're being a complete waifufag to say only Sensei is susceptible growing fonder of as the story and characters develop
I never said that though

>Sensei is far from being the only one that have dokidoki chapters and characterized development
Yeah but more people prefer hers over the others. Even if you're statements about there being 4k duplicates is true then that would still be the case

>Just as you find it ridiculous to say say a Y-san didn't happen because it's rare and just because, it's even more rare
You're Y-san has no evidence, I'm just looking at the results. Mafuyu gained a votes and the others lost votes. That is a fact

Also go onto the 2ch archives right now. They were all more or less happy about the result. Go back to when her arc finished and you'll see that people there loved it

>Likewise. Doesn't mean what's obvious and blatant isn't so despite my opinion or yours for that matter.
Hey call my opinion as worthless as you want, that doesn't change anything. The only opinions that matter where the nips voters and they have spoken. Either of our opinions on the arc meaningless

>Lazy to address the point much? You asked for it and got it, but don't care to muster up counter evidence when you are the one who keep acting like you have evidence to the contrary.
You... you do realize that you did the same thing, right? Please don't tell me that you lack that much self awareness

>But what I'm saying isn't headcanon
Statements and claims you twist and apply as canon to suit your narrative is headcanon. If assuming means headcanon, then you assuming the opposite despite lack of evidence on your end means headcanon too. Perfect.
>The results right now make sense, if the others increased and she still had the result then it would be suspect
No, it doesn't. That doesn't make sense at all. Mafuyu can't have the same if the others increased. The line of reasoning behind the others lost most, if not all of their dups from a dedicated fan or a group of them who were committed to them. Their switch to Mafuyu makes sense through observation and adding up the numbers. But Mafuyu doesn't just have their dups, but a Y-san too. It's the most logical explanation that accounts for the abnormality in Sensei's sudden surge of votes high enough to reach an unprecedented achievement of female character in a low-mid tier popular manga AND the lack of increased votes or even floating at or near old votes for the others.
>Duplicates happen for every series. You have no proof of any Y-san
You're shooting yourself in foot by acknowledging that. Y-san tier fans can't be exceedingly rare like you keep implying and hoping when duplicate voting is commonplace and everywhere. That practice breeds people like Y-san. All things considered, you should proof that there is no Y-san of any kind in the second poll despite the existence of one in the first poll.
>Mafuyu is their favorite character in all of shounen jump history
The fact you don't know how ridiculous that sounds makes you extremely blind to your own bias that doesn't know its place.

People are still mad over this?

Sensei's the most popular heroine, that's it. It's not the end of the world, get over it already

>This poll didn't have that many voters compared to more popular series
You don't get it or refuse to see the picture. The fact it isn't an exceptionally popular series calls the feat Sensei got into question. Doubts obviously are there. Distribution doesn't add up either. Your opinion may think otherwise, but being over 120% of the combined total among the top 5 vs when it was about 30% in the last poll is unbelievable no matter how you slice it. Her arc isn't super amazing or epic, so that argument only goes so far.
>No, it's just not in this case
But it wasn't for the 1st poll? Uh huh.
>Can you stop making claims without evidence?
My claims are based on reasonable doubts. You act like you have evidence to the contrary. If anything, you make factual arguments without evidence. You keep failing to address this, and I can see why.
>Burden of proof.
>I can say the same here
So it's all you know. is still here and it does everything to sate that one-trick argument, and more. I'm still waiting for your defense. Especially regarding claims you make that requires burden of proof, as noted in the previous reply. But I have a feel you'll ignore it yet again.
>Also good idea not replying to me
I did, Sherlock. The first post did. The following posts are connected. But since you need to see the (You), I'll quote you twice. Happy?

I did. It wasn't very good to be honest.

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Fucking kek

It's literally one faggot who is doubling down on his autism despite being alone in the thread.

The worst moment of my day is legitimately when I type "Bokub" in the catalog and see there is a thread up. Thought I was spared this morning but this is the Bokuben thread apparently.

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First, she's barely an active member of the harem. She got late into the game and only just turned dere 30 something chapters ago. Second, what makes you think her selling point is being a teacher? Last I checked, teacher isn't exactly a popular archetype that sells. Not more than student girls close to MC's age like in over 90% of school setting romcoms out. Third, she doesn't do anything original. Help MC as a teacher instructing a student? That's generic and basic. Have fanservice and spend some time along with MC when they're outside school? Not exactly groundbreaking there. The romance between her and MC has a depth of a paper. People clearly don't read the manga for spectacularly written romance. You're a waifufag, it's natural for you to think she's the only noteworthy thing, which in itself is not surprising either.

>just speculation
If this was all just mere speculation, why are you and the other two triggered and bother to this extent? I already said I go by reasonable doubt. I stick to what I believe, just like how you clearly believe and claim otherwise. Yet you expect to be immune from needing to provide evidence yourself when you act like it's a fact. Talk about double standard.

Unfortunately he's not going to let up until one of the girls finally, officially wins the bowl. He's that mad.

More than one person has mentioned Mafuyu has proxy. I should know being one of them. But the difference is, most of us aren't autistic. The guy you argue with and the guys arguing with him ARE autistic about it.

Sure thing.

>If assuming means headcanon, then you assuming the opposite despite lack of evidence on your end means headcanon too. Perfect.
Assumption =/= headcanon per se but it can when you have no evidence to support but still claim it anyway. So what you're doing

>Mafuyu can't have the same if the others increased
That's literally what I was saying

>The line of reasoning behind the others lost most, if not all of their dups from a dedicated fan or a group of them who were committed to them
Why are you assuming they must be dupes though?

>But Mafuyu doesn't just have their dups, but a Y-san too
No proof and doesn't explain all of the lost votes. In the rare case that she does it won't be more than 1-2k from one person. But that would be unreasonable to assume until any evidence is given

>It's the most logical explanation that accounts for the abnormality in Sensei's sudden surge of votes high enough to reach an unprecedented achievement of female character in a low-mid tier popular manga
It's already explained. The poll doesn't have that many voters, it's just the distribution of votes. Rukia is still a more popular character than Mafuyu

>You're shooting yourself in foot by acknowledging that. Y-san tier fans can't be exceedingly rare like you keep implying and hoping when duplicate voting is commonplace and everywhere
Duplicate votes aren't Y-sans, newfag. Most people submit 2-3 votes cause the poll is usually open for a few weeks. Those are duplicates, not Y-sans

>That practice breeds people like Y-san
Rarely

>All things considered, you should proof that there is no Y-san of any kind in the second poll despite the existence of one in the first poll.
Burden of proof. You make this so easy

>The fact you don't know how ridiculous that sounds makes you extremely blind to your own bias that doesn't know its place.
... You can't be that stupid? My post was literally talking about how dumb that statement is. You have to be a shitposter

I bet few more thread later foomfag will say they did nothing wrong

Is this the largest margin a romcom character has won a popularity poll by? Also htf did rizu beat asumi, fucking rigged

>elebrating for a historical position that was reached through duplicate votes feels cheap and fake, no?
Protip. slash her votes in HALF and she'd still be the most voted heroine in jump history.
That's how based this win is.

Good god

Literally my first post itt.

Remember that "Yuiga Fumino" got like, a hundred or so votes, and she lost those, too.

That's totally not a shitpost.

Cant wait for fuminoposters to post later how they beat the delusional senseifans and proved how there was in fact a y-san

>You don't get it or refuse to see the picture. The fact it isn't an exceptionally popular series calls the feat Sensei got into question
And anybody with a brain can see that it's because of the distribution

>Distribution doesn't add up either
It literally does though

>Your opinion may think otherwise, but being over 120% of the combined total among the top 5 vs when it was about 30% in the last poll is unbelievable no matter how you slice it
Nips love her, especially after her arc. One look at the poll will tell you that people are obviously jumping ship

>Her arc isn't super amazing or epic, so that argument only goes so far.
Meaningless opinion

>But it wasn't for the 1st poll? Uh huh.
Because things are different from the first poll

>My claims are based on reasonable doubts. You act like you have evidence to the contrary
1. They aren't

2. I don't need to, burden of proof

>So it's all you know. is still here and it does everything to sate that one-trick argument
It's already been countered buddy

>I did, Sherlock. The first post did. The following posts are connected. But since you need to see the (You), I'll quote you twice. Happy?
If you've been on this site for more than a week or have 3 brain cells you should know that when you're addressing a post you reply to it in that post

Why so serious bro?

>First, she's barely an active member of the harem.
Not really, but let's say you're right. What does that say about the "more" active members of the harem who can't generate enough interest and stand out as characters?
Mafuyu is part of the heroine rotation, and even got the second character arc. She's an active harem member by all rights.
>Second, what makes you think her selling point is being a teacher? Last I checked, teacher isn't exactly a popular archetype that sells
Because her being a teacher and an older woman, sets her character apart from the other girls, and creates a unique, interesting dynamic with the MC. If she was your typical cake who only shows up sometimes to tease the MC and remind us that she's not married yet, or in other words, a minor character with no development whatsoever, then she'd be generic. But no, she is pretty much carrying the manga for most fans despite not being a "popular archetype that sells".
>The romance between her and MC has a depth of a paper
>People clearly don't read the manga for spectacularly written romance.
You're arguing against points no one made here. She's certainly the most developed and best written character in this manga, which is why it shouldn't surprise anybody that she's fucking crushing the competition like this. It's like the author isn't even trying with the other girls anymore. And please, this manga is aimed at waifufags, you're not better than anyone here. The difference is that Senseifags can support why they think their girl is what keeps this manga alive while the others can only hope Tsutsui will do something interesting with their girls at this point.

(To continue off these posts)

You just repeating headcanon in the form of text walls is getting tiring and I'm 90% sure you're a shitposter so how about we do this; You don't even have to bother with a text wall for these posts just do one thing:

Prove, with undeniable evidence that there is a Y-san

If you can't do that I refuse to reply to you're shitposting

I just don't get what's the point of making baseless posts like that.
You're only asking to get shat on.

I asked Tsutsui-sensei if there was a Y-san when we got drinks the other day and he said no and raughed

>If this was all just mere speculation, why are you and the other two triggered and bother to this extent?
because you are trying to force this on other people despite the evidence not backing you up in the slightest?
>I already said I go by reasonable doubt.
there is nothing reasonable in thinking that somehow Mafuyu stole all the mass voters and not the general readership when mass voters are extremely loyal to their girls unlike normal voters that can change opinions more easily
>I stick to what I believe, just like how you clearly believe and claim otherwise.
keyword, what YOU BELIEVE, and I question your beliefs by asking you the evidence backing them, if someone tells you that he's an alien you would need proof to believe him, don't you?
>Yet you expect to be immune from needing to provide evidence yourself when you act like it's a fact. Talk about double standard.
I'm not the one claiming the existence of a boogeyman, the burden of proof is on your side of the court, not mine
Also what proof would you even need to confirm a person doesn't exist? I'm asking you because THERE ISN'T any proof he exists, I could ask you to prove the nonexistence of Cthulu and pretend he exists until you can prove otherwise, but of course that doesn't make any sense, does it?

Or better yet
>oh guys, you should totally admit there was a y-san and Mafuyu received, like, 6k votes
>that way the threads will go back to normal
>please

More like triggered reactions. I got nothing to lose here.

>>Mafuyu is their favorite character in all of shounen jump history
>The fact you don't know how ridiculous that sounds makes you extremely blind to your own bias that doesn't know its place.
Kek. You can't be serious, right?

>admitting that he is only baiting for reactions

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If it took you this long to figure that out you're a genuine retard, like all your retarded samefagging friends

>It's reasonable assumption
To you. It doesn't follow the stated narrative. You're grasping at straws here.
>people on the scale of Y-san are rare
Seems like you missed the rhetoric there and are avoiding to show that there isn't any Y-san based on your fact claim.
>should never be the assumption.
Because you say so? Assuming dedicated waifufags that are prone to be habitual and dropping Gs for their waifu is not as rare as you believe. A google search would tell you that much.
>They could've kept the Y-san but lost a bunch of normal votes. Or the guy just decided to stop doing it, which is the most likely option
Neither assumption is likely. Mafuyu's votes are simply an anomaly.
>Yeah, it's possible, just not likely. Which is why we're asking for evidence to prove it
Once again . Playing stupid isn't a game you can continue for long, you know. And yet, I'm still waiting to hear counter evidence from your side. Of course I know you don't have any evidence of your own, so this game of chicken shit is pointless. And yet, here you are willing to stick to a pretend high ground, acting like evidence is on your side anyways.
>Still not proof that it happened
Likewise for you to dismiss that it didn't happen again to a greater extent this time around.
>No, I agree with the quoted part, but as I said that just makes her result more reasonable
You're delusional or illiterate. If you agree with my quote earlier, then you should be able to see the point. But you don't.
>Never said otherwise
Then there's no point to your stubbornness.
>Yeah, but you claimed he voted even more.
No, that was you and I called out how stupid your conclusion was. I said we don't know how many he sent, but it obviously wasn't enough.
> Now you're just moving goalposts
You can't be serious. F-san is just like Y-san, but he gets a pass, but Y-san doesn't? What logic are you following? To begin with, this entire argument stemmed from guys like Y-san existing.

See I already explained I'm not gonna feed you're obvious shitposting unless you provide undeniable proof

I had already called him a shitposter, moron.
That was his own admittance.

can you believe that someone out there is actually reading all this shit

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mods = fags

Will the Viz poll ride the Mafuyu meme or will their vote massacre the poll using Fumino start their own meme?

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this is as bad as the gridman autism fests

>Gets less screentime than the main three
>Arc is only three chapters
>Still completely dominates

At this point, it’s just sad. I didn’t expect a gap like this. The other girls actually lost votes to her. Tsutsui did too much romantic teasing for her compared to the other girls. Uruka and Rizu have liked the MC for a while and they got nothing on Sensei.

Lum not only completely stole her series from the original heroine, she shifted the entire industry's paradigm.

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if Mafuyu wins that they'll claim proxy votes too

>Sensei literally has 11k votes more than Fumino the 2nd place
Has there ever been a gap this big before in harem?
Sensei might actually end up winning.

Quality beats quantity every time.

The hilarious thing is that Fumino got literally proxied onto the first place in the first poll.

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Nah. Expected reactions are just a byproduct. I have reservations so it's not as if I don't believe there is some truth to it. Time will tell.

It is well known that a mod is a fuminofag.

>bokuben gets a mafuyu end
>clearly the work of a proxy author

She also had chapter 111 where they go to rent that haunted apartment.
IMO that chapter was better than her arc.

This is true, and she also polled poorly in both (I think there were only 2) popularity polls. I just get the sense that the mangaka is writing it in tandem with feedback as opposed to having a concrete vision on how much time each character should get, and all that. I think this is to some degree good, since I've definitely noticed an increase in writing quality, and at least for the past while has lead to tight character arcs (though Rizu's ended in somewhat of a rushed manner I feel).

Where art thou evidence?

>This thread
>Fuminoshitters shitting up a thread after getting booty blasted by sensei so hard that they blame it on a Y-san
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, still having my laughs. How salty and delusional can fuminofags be

Any proof of that or are you just shitposting?

Maybe those reactions are a thing because you're talking out of your ass.

>11k to 2nd's 3k in a harem
Jesus.

Dont forget her terrible as shit arc that was like fucking filler because of how impactless it was

First Post Based Post

Prove that she didn't get proxied, first.

Fun part is that past pollit was almot 6k votes to barely over 4k.
Every single heroine lost votes this poll but one.

All me baby

Kek

Post proof would be the best counter argument to the Y san/Proxy vote debacle.

Nice one

Fucking savage.

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So this is the power of Sensei.
Not bad.

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maybe you are getting posts deleted for walls of text and meta shitposting?

Based Max Stirner

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57% of all of the votes, literally more than half of the fanbase loves her. Nobody saw this shit coming but It's fucking great

I remember someone got banned for shitposting real hard.

And everyone thought this was in no way representative of the actual voting turnout.

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That gave me a good chuckle

That entire thing was a mess. You didn't even need a proxy to vote multiple times.

Seems like Bokuben thread, but this girl basically took over her show for 3 episodes. Not that Im complaining

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sensei is shit, gonna be great when her bandwagoning fanbase gets BTFO.

I feel bad for Rizu, like holy shit.

>There are still rizufags
I mean I appreciate their love for a lost cause.

This poll is more accurate as the proxyfag wasn't in the thread to spam it.

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Its ok, most of us have already accepted that Tsui doesnt have the balls to do a true ending. We are enjoying the ride and making fuminofags dilate and salty

>Mafuyu reading Kareego again

She got squirrel zoned. Nobody wants to cling to a ship that's all underwater but the mainmast.

>still no washboard edit for this one

Top tier comedy

>52%
so Yea Forums is less into sensei than japan?

> Miss Bokuben trophy
kek
So she literally carries the series now?

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>Tsui doesnt have the balls to do a true ending
But Fumino ending is pretty much true ending, as she is the main heroine

>52%
Funny thing is that she got much more than even that

Same, I know she won't win, but BTFO'ing Fumino in popularity this hard will forever be remembered.

RomCom threads fucking suck and this thread din't disapoint. Not a single post talking about the story, only "who will MC fuck" and the usual "X/Y/Z a shit and you suck"

I'm honestly confused how you people can do this for 500 posts every day.

I only see you getting BTFO in here though, but keep dreaming

She's a good girl. I'm just sad that her recent story arc wasn't solo like her previous ones.

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We know she isn't the end game tho.

We already discussed this chapter, mostly about its canonicity when Fuminofags started sperging out about it.

Actually nah. I set up that poll and the only sudden bursts in votes were like I noticed were ironically for Fumino early on and Uruka midway through. Had it up for a few days too to get more samples.

Literally did not even notice he was gone the entire arc

He wouldnt have the balls to do a fumino ending after the polls

>now
She's been the best character since Nariyuki first visited her apartment.

The confused look on her face is great. Maybe I'll look up whatever chapters she's in.

Fumino lost an additional 121 votes, so that means she lost a total of 1056 votes, or 24.5% of her votes from the first poll.

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aside of Hir02 her and Mitsuru were the only interesting couple, I expected more from the tsun duo but eh, they amounted to nothing, she does cause the most heated arguments though, she ended up being one of my favorite characters

It's fine. I will always remember her as top voted heroine in wsj harem, legend, and my queen.

There's a list somewhere, the best partis that she starts as the antagonist, then the author gives her a huge gap moe and it goes from there.

Japan is unironically even more in love with sensei than us, especially after her arc. The 2ch boards weren't even that surprised by the result

Delusional at best, impying based Tsui cares for a shitty-ass poll

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Kokoro a best. A BEST.

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Your bait isn't working. This isn't about Fumino, so your ad hominem and slander again missed its target. But you can't seem to get over the blatant indication of an exception amount of samefag voting for Mafuyu. We aren't even talking about the original Y-san, but guys like him. There's no guideline saying the only vote for less popular girl, you just made that up to help your argument. It's cheap.
>other girls had duplicated votes in the first poll
Did you just backpedal or maybe you can't read the other user's point about duplicate vote being normal and all the girls have them? I don't disagree, but there's a difference between regular fans that send in some dups to guys like Y-san that send in hundreds, if not thousands. Sensei here has both.
>a lot of othergirlfags, along with new readers, became Senseifags and be done with it.
Maybe you should accept that Sensei has a lot of duplicate votes. After all, they aren't uncommon and the numbers speak for abnormal discrepancy with Sensei's numbers of the numbers other girls have that are suspicious speak themselves.

>Yeah, it didn't
Except it did. If it didn't, then her win would be less in doubt, if not at all.
>Just cause they lost more than they gained doesn't mean none of the new votes were for them
Based on what? We can only assume constant holds true, therefore they should have roughly the same votes and Mafuyu have 4-5k more from new votes who take a liking to her. And since Mafuyu will have most votes, that means she'll have higher natural amount of duplicate votes. If that were the case, a Y-san is less probable. But that's not what happened. Not-so-coincidental 4k + 5k from new adds to too squarely with the votes Mafuyu got in addition to her old votes.

Yeah that is a bit weird. She dominated this poll much harder than the last one

I wish .5 user was here to do another imgur.com/a/NWEbylr

> Not a single post talking about the story
> Bokuben
> story
Sadly there's not much to discuss.

You should have been in the last thread.

If we do get a sensei end it'll be worth scouring the early chapters for hints 22i was leaving that nobody caught the first time around.

Yea Forums mods are bros.

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>The shitposter is still going

Don't reply, he's just baiting for (You)s. This thread is actually starting to become good again

Rizu is so cute, she deserves better.

>Evidence: my ass

Faggots you mean. Only faggots like Fumino.

The last few threads have been about arguing stupid poll and then the usual characterfag accusations. It's continued in this thread.

>bottom of the barrel trash romcom manga
>no story to discuss
how shocking

>This isn't about Fumino, so your ad hominem and slander again missed its target
Yes, it's about Fumino to prove how your Y-san theory crumbles when you contrast the results of the other girls, especially Fumino who had a long hyped up arc where she hogged all the screentime and still lost popularity. This means that not even the second place, the only girl that could compete against Mafuyu, could stand a chance against her skyrocketing popularity and instead lost the most votes out of all the girls. A Y-san would be more likely to push Fumino and close the gap with Sensei, especialy after her arc, but they didn't even try, or maybe they did, which would mean Fumino is even less popular than Uruka now. This alone speaks about how powerful Mafuyu is, and how your samefag theory is completely nonsensical and irrelevant.
Sensei having duplicate votes isn't the issue, because the other girls also have duplicate votes and they still lost votes. That's because they all went to Sensei. Get over it.

Or women.

Fumino is best girl though.

at this rate I doubt he is a shitposter, he might be legit deranged and can't accept reality

DAMMIT DEMO-SAN KEEP YOUR SHITTY HANDS OFF IROHA

Well, it's always the same Fumino autist who goes into a fit the moment people shit on her arc.
Which, by now, it's actually funny because it's now a fact it was garbage.

Quick question:

Who here other than the one guy is actually mad over the result?

Fuminofag mod deleted several posts calling fumino shit and leaves the walls of text defending his bad taste, at this point I think it was the same fag.

Fumino is so shit that she lost almost 1k votes when the poll covered her arc.
She's officially shit tier.

We know Yukino and Yui are virgins, Iroha there is a bit mystery in that on her "status"

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>Which, by now, it's actually funny because it's now a fact it was garbage.
O MY LAPTOP

Not true since Shizuru and Reiji ranked.

I somehow prefer the death glare.

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I'm only mad about Rizu getting shafted again, but I guess that's on Tsutsui.

Reiji was the only good thing about it so it makes sense.

Still 2nd place. Popular != good.

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Doing god's work user

It doesn't work that way in this case. Fumino's arc was so garbage that it made her lose fans. You know you fucked up when fans start jumping ship.

Aren't you jumping the gun? Nobody was talked about Fumino or her arc.

Furuhashi Reiji___ deserved better than to be in that shitty arc.

Almost everybody lost fans, are you saying everybody is shit?

The mom deserved cancer for her actions in the flashback.

talking*

Reiji got 22 votes and Fumino lost 1000.

Gotta shill the foom sadly

Neither Rizu or Uruka had 5-chapter arcs exclusively dedicated to them to boost their appeal up, and they still lost LESS votes than Fumino.

Reiji is based as fuck but unfortunately he couldn't save Fumino's arc

The other heroines didn't have a five chapter arc before the poll. Only Mafuyu's was covered.
Now notice the difference in popularity.

>some did, so all of them did
You're just assuming things.

I think it would've been amazing if Reiji took Fumino's place in the poll.

Sad for Rizu not gaining votes. The rankings like they are are fine to me but Rizu should have more votes.

You haven't explained why Shizuru ranked.

She lost like 900. At least get it right.

Rizu's grandma looks like a ripoff of Kazuya's grandma from Kanokari.
22i is running out of ideas.

what did she rank?

See

She loves the 100-something Yuiga Fumino votes, so over 1000.

Preach that. In fact they lost the least votes. Couple that with the copious shilling Fuminofags perpetuated regarding her arc this is all the sweeter.

Yes.

>ctrl+f fumino
Too much rent free toxicity in here.

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She lost 935, but she also lost the 121 Yuiga Fumino votesSo a total of 1056 votes lost.

935+121. She lost 1056.

She got 13 votes.

Much better.

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Cause she's cute? She only got like 13 votes

>toxicity
Go back to tumblr

Mizuki was the only other girl that increased her votes.
Arc when?

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He's done pretending the other four girls matter.

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Rizu and Uruka lost 600 each. Asumi lost 900, same as Fumino. By the end of the day, Fumino is still more popular than them.

All the heartless faggots who don't/didn't love their grandmas that didn't give a shit about Nana...literally souless and unsalvageable.

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Mafuyu and Nariyuki should introduce their sisters to each other.

Fumino lost almost twice the votes Uruka did and is just 200 votes apart now. After having a fucking arc.
Then again, popularity-wise it's Sensei>>>>>>>>>>>>who even cares at this point.

>Fumino is still more popular than them.
I mean if she wasn't after that ridiculous shilling that would be a fucking disgrace

Trips will it.
Imoutos chapter when?

Fumino is a slimy person deluding herself into thinking she's doing good.

She ranked higher than piano chan.

If we assume Fumino's Y-san sent in another thousand votes this time she's substantially below Uruka in real support.

More than that. She lost the expected gain in votes with the bigger voterbase too.

You don't compare Piano chan to Shizuru. You compare it to the laptop.

Because again, they didn't have anything big that would warrant boosting their popularity like Fumino did, so it makes sense that some Urukafags and Rizufags became Senseifags in the meanwhile.
Even as an Urukafag I can understand that. You better hope Uruka's arc isn't good or she'll kick the skeleton out of the second place for good.

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From literally who to taking the main girl spot absolutely based Isayama.

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I'll always be disappointed that Asumi ranks so low but beyond that, it's kinda amazing.

But Nariyuki already introduced his sister to Miharu.

Nah, Fumino's Y-san is absent this time because he wasted 4k bucks to see Fumino winning the first poll and still lost by more than 1k to Sensei. That man is broken, both emotionally and financially.

As much as I appreciate shitting on Fumino I really meant Mizuki.

Piano-chan: 9k votes
O MY LAPTOP: -1000 votes

I'm also waiting for them to inevitably meet. If there was a whole chapter of just those 2, I wouldn't even be mad

Yes!

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I'm just saying that people liked them, so saying that everybody hated the arc is inaccurate.

another best girl being IMAGINE tier certainly helps

>Mizuki and Miharu stalk sensei and Moeyuki as they do their usual stuff

Same order like everyone predicted yet still managed to cause outrage because of the sheer gap. Fumino and Rizu really do suck as main heroines.

Kek

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In a sane world, people who complain about shitposters but carry out baiting and generalized shitposting would turn the sword onto themselves. If only.

prOvE it.

> The ultimate cockblock duo.
Not sure if want...

Of course there's people who liked them. There are Fuminofags so of course there's people who liked them. If you want you can add those 35 votes Reiji and Shizuru got to Fumino if that makes you feel better.

>It turns out they both already know each other through a bro/siscon support group they're in

It's shit.
Muzuki is already a terrible brocon.

This is actually amazing considering how votes went down for all the others but her aside from the queen.

I'm more impressed than anything really. That gap is literally record breaking

You could even squeeze a recap chapter out of that if 22i was desperate to pad the series.
>Miharu tells Mizuki about all the things she saw the couple doing
>Mizuki tells Miharu about her role in chapter 110/111, and the bath house chapter

It's almost like they're not main heroines.

I stopped following SnK years ago, now everyone is shipping her with Eren?

It's interesting that it really makes you mad that other people could like what you don't. Chill out user.

>all of this shitting despite the high probability of Fumino End
Final chapter threads are going to be something and with a lot of licked tears, I imagine.

That's only because the rest of the family isn't supportive.

I made something else this time.

Nah, the moment she became muh senpai with Uruka I lost all the respect I had for her.

Don't really see where madness transpires from my post. Also not saying that everyone hated her arc just that 99% of the time it's Fuminofags making appreciation of the arc which is only Natural. Most other fanbases criticize the arc, even those who like Fumino second best like that senseifag 2 or 3 threads ago.

>Sensei might actually end up winning

I wish.

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You expect too much from a ballistic Fuminohater with an axe to grind.

Did viz bother making a proxypoll this time?

Most of us are expecting the safe and boring Fumino end. There won't be any tears unless Tsutsui pulls a bait and switch on Senseifags.

Fucking kek. Imagine being this mad. Remember when Foomfags were so fond of Mizuki because they could sperg about "muh Yuiga family supports Fumino"? This is precious.

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>I lost all the respect I had for her
Why?

I can taste the tears from you already.

Because he cares more about hating Uruka than the actual characters in this manga.

They'll accidentally clamjam each other.

so can we assume that she officially took the spot of main heroine in 106?

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People ARE expecting Fumino to win, but since this is entirely a meta based reasoning and because of multiple other factors, they are hoping for the possibility of something different.

Must be your own

Not a single brocon that respect herself would allow another woman near her brother, even less not noticing that said woman is in love with her brother. In my eyes she is a failure.

Why?

>hating uruka

Did they rewire their brains to hate sweet cuties?

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I've seen Sensei arc threads and I saw 99% of the jerking from Senseifags. My perception is my reality so that's how I see it. Basically.

Openly, yes. 22i has been building this up for a LONG time. As far back as the beach chapter it was clear that Mafuyu needed Nariyuki in her life more than the other girls did.

I think she's suffering from the same disease that makes uruka rather okay with being cucked by sensei.

Uruka a shit

If I were a Fuminofag I would just lay down after the recent events. There's no way I would keep exposing myself to get BTFO by screeching about Y-sans in the poll only to get reminded that my girl got BTFO the hardest by every possible measure.

I never said anything about hating Uruka.

Not unless 22i is willing to turn into a hack. She's a sub heroine, not the main heroine.

22i has laid more than enough foundation to go with a sensei end without things feeling out of place.

wrong

He's already a hack. There's no harm.

Correct. Look at what Kamachi did. He remembered Index.

Everyone know Tsuitsui loves Fumino and wants Fumino end. It's too obvious and I don't expect another one. Btw there are many senseifags who love sensei but are ok with Fumino end. Unfortunately on the other hand, many Fuminofags are hating on sensei just because she is more popular...

>turn into

>won't win
>thinks she took the main heroine role in 106
user, I

Mizuki is always on guard, the fact that she has never noticed that Uruka likes Nariyuki upsets me and I really liked Mizuki.

Who WOULDN'T be okay with getting cucked by Sensei? She's Miss Bokuben, getting cucked by her is an honor

>turn into a hack
There's enough narrative to support a mafuyu end though. Probably more than for any other heroine.

Not really, Rizufags and Urukafags also praised the arc

> She's a sub heroine
Wrong, there are five heroines.
Sub heroines are just in your head.

Mizuki must have grown familiar with Uruka before finding out that she knew her brother. Otherwise she would go apeshit at her sight.

How? She barely interact with the other characters.

If Fumino wins, I'll mainly celebrate. Maybe gloat a bit, but mostly celebrate.

I guess, assuming was fair enough judging from the post.

And why does that matter?

Sub heroines is not wrong. Maruto identified Megumi as the main heroine and Eriri and Utaha as sub heroines. Maruto > you

She only needs to interact with him.

And that matters how?

>Probably more than for any other heroine.

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Maruto also knew how to make his main heroine the most interesting and appealing, so she could overshadow the sub heroines naturally.

I think the arc is alright. I think all the arcs are alright, nothing too special since I don't expect Tsutsui to be this deep and good of a writer. The arcs that are really good in my opinion are the Festival and Sensei's. The first because it features all the characters the second because it is short and conveys some really good moments and to this day is the only arc that resulted in a visible change in characterization.

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It's because Uruka is not only friendly with the Yuiga family but she also looks up to her that she never suspects it despite being obvious. It's just a joke

I get his point. There hasn't been a romcom winner in a harem who only interacts with the MC. Even then, Mafuyu's interactions are fairly restrictive too.

How do you tell the other heroines that are in love with Nariyuki that he is in love with Mafuyu and that they accept it? It would be shit writting if the other heroines leave without knowing anything.

>1%
1 to 2 was counted. I know.

Eh? That's a weird thing to complain about. If you wanna dismiss her with anything, just say that sensei's never win. It's probably the biggest thing holding her back

Rizu didn't think they're practically married.

She sometimes interacts with Fumino, Rizu and Uruka, it's not like she's completely isolated from them.
That has nothing to do with Sensei mostly interacting with him.

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I get it, because a lot more just turned into Senseifags instead.

1. I'm sure if he just explains to them that they got close over time and they eventually developed feelings for each other that they would accept it like a normal person. They'd be shocked, sure, but they ultimately care about Nariyuki enough to understand

2. Why do their feelings even matter? The only feelings that would matter are Nariyuki's and Mafuyu's

Is it really weird? Unless I am wrong, I have literally never seen a harem winner who's isolated from other girls when it matters. Being a sensei is variable that may contribute to not winning, sure.

True, but as a teacher that's strictly business and not as a rival, friend, family, nakama, or anything really.

Why does it have to be more than a teacher?

I've never seen it either. Mafuyu is too isolated from the rest of the cast (same with senpai but nobody likes her). Heroines that win are usually the center of everything, but you never know.

>Is it really weird? Unless I am wrong, I have literally never seen a harem winner who's isolated from other girls when it matters. Being a sensei is variable that may contribute to not winning, sure.
I mean it's a bit unorthodox but it's hardly a requirement. It wouldn't make sense for the teacher to hang out with her students. She even pushed away Nariyuki at first and it took her a while to fully acknowledge him. It would be jarring if she just hung out like normal with the rest after that. And despite them being limited, I quite like her interactions with Uruka and Asumi

What that mean

yeah *cough* TWGOK *cough*

If Sensei did somehow win she’d break most of the meta cliches of harem. She’s an unorthodox heroine for sure.

Wrong. Actually even a Fuminofag praised it desuarchive.org/a/thread/185613518
I guess reasonable foomfags were still around back then.

Maybe good harem works have spoiled me, but the winner doesn't just grow with the MC, but to members of the harem too. It's basic. Mafuyu doesn't grow outside as a teacher to the other girls.

Most people do think she won't win. I think being isolated and not at the center plays into that equation.

>hardly a requirement
It's not an official rule set in stone of course, but I've still never seen it an isolated winner before. Very unorthodox is more like it.

>First cake in a harem that's a serious contender
>Most popular girl and isn't a "main heroine"
>Most voted heroine in Jump history beating out previous record nearly twice over
Come on 22i. Go for broke and go down in history as the man that got Jump to approve of illicit student teacher relationships!

>98.5% instead of 99%
Okay.

They should have gave her a proper route. She's way too cute.

>She’s an unorthodox heroine for sure

The way she''s treated for side heroine that happens to be a teacher is pretty unconventional to say the least. 57% like it.

I bet you're this guy

>Maybe good harem works have spoiled me, but the winner doesn't just grow with the MC, but to members of the harem too. It's basic. Mafuyu doesn't grow outside as a teacher to the other girls.
Well, that's not an issue since the other girls haven't grown at all. It's not like they also interact with each other all that much when most of the chapters in this manga are episodic for each girl.

>Maybe good harem works have spoiled me, but the winner doesn't just grow with the MC, but to members of the harem too. It's basic. Mafuyu doesn't grow outside as a teacher to the other girls.
She doesn't grow with them cause it doesn't make sense. She's their teacher and and has a cold personality, it would be incredibly ooc for her to do something like that

>Most people do think she won't win. I think being isolated and not at the center plays into that equation.
Most people don't think she'll win but that is not one of the reasons

>It's not an official rule set in stone of course, but I've still never seen it an isolated winner before
She's not isolated, she just tries to keep their relationship professional like she did with Nariyuki at first. It makes complete sense and their current relationships are more than I'd expect. Fumino and Rizu saw her as some villain before the series started but Uruka looks up to her and Asumi talks with her when they bump into each other

>but the winner doesn't just grow with the MC, but to members of the harem too.
Her role to them will always be as a teacher until fumino and Rizu stand up to her and mend their previous relations. It's not even her fault at that point because the ball is on their field when it comes to interacting with sensei. One of her traits is putting up a facade as a serious character so she doesnt have to grow with them as anything but a teacher just yet. She's fumino's and Rizu's reasons to keep pursuing their course in efforts to prove her wrong.

Can't be. I account for 98.5% Senseifags only.

well, at least you don't deny that other fans also considered it the best arc even if you're underestimating them
Carry on

>Most people don't think she'll win but that is not one of the reasons
What are the reasons? Curious.

Who decided Fuminobros are BTFO by this poll and in these threads? I've seen people sperg about it but I honestly cannot see a valid reason.

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>Who decided Fuminobros are BTFO by this poll and in these threads?
It's more them being BTFO by their own delusions, laughable rationalisations, inability to structure a proper argument, and other hilarious behaviour.

Either you're blind or you don't read the threads at all.

Fumino will win so it doesn't really matter.

Biggest reasons are that sensei's never lose and and that Fumino exists. Not a lot at this point but they're big roadblocks to overcome

>sensei's never lose
Trips confirm senseis never lose

Shitposters attribute 1-3 autists who argue Sensei has proxy = Fuminofags therefore BTFO.

Fumino existing is a non issue at this point

Sensei and Senpai are often put together and both are more isolated from the other girls yet the difference in treatment and popularity is massive. Asumi gets little love.

I'll select the highlights for you
Now if you want more details, read the walls of text refuting their retardation.

>1-3
>3
You're giving yourself too much credit. Also, Fuminofags got BTFO by the poll no matter how much they try to cover it up with muh proxies.

In the past weeks some Fuminofags argued Fumino got a chance to win and she was soundly beaten. Therefore people are screaming BTFO. Some Fuminofags, probably the same people, started sperging about Sensei getting Y-san'd therefore calling more shitting on them.

>sensei's never lose
Fuck me

>Asumi gets little love.
Little love for a little girl.
I like Asumi, her chapters are fun.

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Granted all girls lost a lot of votes, Fumino lost the most even counting the fact that she got the biggest arc and had a fair share of shilling.

That's how things are, Satan.

Is this a low key falseflag call or am I imagining things?

Fumino will win the Rizubowl

Most of the manga is basically plotless, but we can safely say that Fumino, RIzu, and Uruka have grown some. To say the least, their relationship is better now than it was at the start. Definitely between Fumino and Rizu thanks what went down in the latter's arc.

You guys are taking this too seriously. Maybe isolated isn't 100% accurate, but she's removed from majority of heroine to heroine interactions and involvement. Development naturally stagnates between her and them as a result. She is a sensei and acts accordingly for her station and age so it's not unexpected that she isn't close to them outside of a teacher. Bet best is to have Nariyuki break the ice to get interactions to the level of being friends. I wouldn't put that on 22i's list of priorities though.

I think Sensei's character design of long pink hair is quite unoriginal and boring. Senpai's small loli body and purple hair coupled with unique hairstyle is much better.

No sister No life!

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That's what you deserve for being a hateful cunt.

Asumi is an ugly goblina. Her bad design (mainly ruined by her hairstyle) is one of the reasons why she's the least popular.

Go back Grakham, you got far more than you deserved. Mizuki won't have a chapter.

Oh please, I call it as I see it. One of the biggest autistic shitposters even said it .

>falseflag
Yes. If your aim is to insult aforementioned shitposters.

They have grown the bare minimum, which is getting better grades in their preferred subjects and shit. They don't interact with each other that much either, which is the point.

>got a chance to win
>was soundly beaten
The manga isn't over yet. Nobody win. What the hell are you on?

There's definitely only one who argues for hours.

You're the one taking it too seriously, it's a very minor issue. Her not interacting with them is completely fine, especially considering her character

>She is a sensei and acts accordingly for her station and age so it's not unexpected that she isn't close to them outside of a teacher
That was literally my point though

Sempai is an outgoing tiny woman who is already a successful businesswoman but dreams of being a doctor, this is much more intimidating than a cute cake sensei who is sort of autistic and doesn't bother to take care of herself very well outside of working to project an image of being a competent adult for her student's sakes.

Again, Fuminofags called this shit upon themselves. If they didn't scream about Y-sans and proxies in every thread since the poll came out because they are unable of accepting the results, people wouldn't give them shit.
Their victim act is more pathetic than usual.

Some is some. Nobody is saying they interact a lot. When they do, often it comes in the form of helping one another out in silly situations or when it's a matter of the heart, which does create bonds between them.

He's talking about the poll

Proxy is likely though. It's not like you can disprove a negative anyways. Screeching back at them in a louder voice also doesn't make you better either.

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So I take that you think who's arguing in favor of Sensei getting Y-san'd are Rizufags, Asumifags and Urukafags huh? Noted.

I love this screenshot

Why hasn't anybody made a compilation of all of those denial posts before the color page dropped yet?

I hope we can just ignore that one guy next thread.

I'm talking about the poll. Lacking a bit of context reading here, I suggest you go to sleep.

I can easily say that every girl has their own duplicates as well, but they are ultimately irrelevant against Sensei's unfathomable power.

It's a relative issue, isn't it? user's point earlier questioned 's point by drawing attention her lack of interaction with other characters as a predispose tell of a non-winner in a harem.

It's not a big issue at all and has nothing to do with the narrative. If she's going to lose that, of all things, wouldn't be the reason

Where? I've never seen fellow Fuminofags outright said Fumino will beat Sensei. Not unless you count the 2 falseflag attempts that lacked suitableness in the past week. But surely not, right? Everyone I know and seen said the top 2 placement wouldn't change. Hell, the argument last night only revolved around knocking a few thousand votes. Expecting Mafuyu to be first and the majority was a given they never disagreed with.

Of course that isn't wouldn't be the only reason. But be honest, if she did have interactions and became closer with Nariyuki's haremettes, which opened up to potential flag events and approval from other girls (either as worthy rival or threat or that she's a good match with the MC), don't you think her chance of winning would be higher?

Nowhere. Haters are just shitposting and creating excuses to regurgitate buzzwords.

It'll happen eventually

Higher? Sure. But it's absence doesn't decreases her chances. Her chances would also be higher if she met Nariyuki by falling on him from the sky in chapter 1 but that not happening doesn't affect her chances