If there was no pendant or any other catalyst involved in summoning, would've Rin summoned Gilgamesh?

If there was no pendant or any other catalyst involved in summoning, would've Rin summoned Gilgamesh?

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She would have summoned an old man

No

Why would she?

If no catalyst is present, her personality becomes her catalyst, right?
Rin doesn't share the hedonistic desires of Gil, so I assume it would have been some obscure hero who resembled her the most.

I remember Nasu stating that Gil's and Rin's compabilty is of the highest order.

Do you have any source of that? And could there even be two Gils?

[citation needed]

Also, since Rin is stated to be extremely compatible with Ishtar, you'd suspect that she'd be the last person that Gilgamesh would be summoned by.

> Do you have any source of that?
Fate/side material - Encyclopedia: Gold-glitter [Others], p.059
Gold-glitter [Others]
The name Rin called Gilgamesh when she saw him.
Gil was called "golden" not only because of his armour when he was fully armed, but also the fact that his soul glowed golden.
The wealthiest character in this story, our Gil.
His compatibility with large-spender Rin was the greatest, but that was the secret just between you and me.
>And could there even be two Gils?
I guess, since grail just stores a copy of heroic spirit's soul in class container and not the actual original soul.

He would still backstab her just like he did withTokiomi the moment she starts helping Shirou.

fpbp

The original F/SN summoning rules have been retconned so hard I don't think anything in the VN is valid anymore. They got rid of the whole personality compatibility and made it 100% catalyst dependent.

rincontinence posters btfo

Not necessarily, he backstabbed Tokiomi because he considered an extremely uninteresting Master and found Kirei's sadistic shenanigans more amusing.

How was it changed? Catalyst always guaranteed specific heroic spirit (unless it's vague catalyst that corresponds to multiple servants, like piece of round table) regardless of master's personality. Personality only determines servant if master has no catalyst.

If Gilgamesh was released today he would be a big titty waifu with questionable anatomy

I think if no catalyst is present, summoning is just supposed to be impossible. That doesn't mean she doesn't have something she's not aware of, like a distant relation to some hero or whatever

So what kind of servant would i get if I'm lazy, coward and selfish?
Scheherazade?

We have Fem~Gil in Illya series and She is exactly that.

OH NO NO NO NO NO PFFF HAHAHAHA

Has there even been a confirmed case of personality summon? I always thought of it as an intentional in-universe bullshit explanation for how Archer and Saber were supposedly summoned without a Catalyst until the whole pendant/Avalon thing was revealed

Hell, even with Ryuunosuke and Gilles in F/Z you could argue that the girmoire Ryuunosuke was reading from acted as thr catalyst

Sakura and Medusa was that until a retcon later on.

I forgot if Kariya used any catalyst to summon Lancelot.

I don't remember clearly but didn't Zouken knew it was going to be Lancelot when he made his deal with Kariya? I imagine that implies a catalyst?

Hans

Did he? I only remember Zouken adding lines to the chant that guarantee servant being of berserker class. My memory about F/Z summonings is vague though.

I may be completely wrong then, that's definitely possible too.

If i remember well the catalyst was a piece of the round table.

If so, Kariya had 50:50 chance between Lancelot and Mordred. I don't remember any other knight of the round qualifying as berserker.

What would Mordred even look like as berserk?

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Like a cat screaming "chichiue!" all the time. She would probably suck much more than Lancelot in battle because no eternal arms mastery skill and questionable if she can use sword beam as berserker.

Probably just full armor with helmet on and a lot of shouting. So not all that different really

based and seniorpilled

Damn, she would have won

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>two bisexual deviants in the same picture

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>implying KH would involve himself with Rin

One little angry tincan.

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In a sexual way?

False.

Both love Saber.

She would have summoned him

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Everyone loves Saber.

Pretty much everyone in the nasuverse is Sabersexual to some degree

Even Sakura?

>implying Dark Sakura didn't do mana transfers with Alter behind the scenes in HF

>behind the scenes
Thanks for proving me right.

Her suit of armor but all bloody and maybe the spear hole is still there

Even if she could beam spam, it would be too much of a drain for Kariya and most of the other heroes could probably have dodged or countered the attack.

OH HO HO HO HO HO

Maybe. He's not a bad person per se, he's just amoral and bored.