Realistically if she just kept trying eventually she would have beat it right?
I mean she was going to get help with the fight and that fell through, why fight it alone when you know you don't have to. At least TRY to fight it with another magical girl helping you.
She should've just made Sayaka wish for Walpurgis to disappear.
Kyouko is the only one she can rely on. Sayaka dies before Walpurugis in every single universe and Mami's emotional fragility makes her quite unreliable.
Would Sayaka's wish be strong enough to do that?
And don't wishes always backfire when they are for the greater good in some way?
It seems like a good idea on paper but maybe it doesn't work.
How would Homura go about getting her to make that wish as well?
Obviously not being such a cold distant bitch and simply explaining things to people instead of being a mysterious badass, would probably help her case significantly.
She could just use her rewinds to figure out how to be more social.
If she couldn't convince a soft and friendly girl like madoka to don't listen to qb there's much less of a chance to solve sayaka "muh kamijou" faggotry and mami's insecurities.
That's why she ignores both of them, she knows they are a lost cause
>Pause time and secretly kill Sayaka and Mami
>Approach Madoka like an actual person and just talk to her and explain the entire situation without being weird and crpytic
>Do not mention to Madoka that you killed people
>if she finds out restart
>Tell Kyoko that she can have the city if she helps you defeat walpurgis
>watch over Madoka and inhibit that rat as much as possible
>Go ham on walpurgis with kyoko
>If you succeed freeze time and kill Kyoko
>Enjoy life with Madoka and never ever mention her friends
>if Kyoko is a shit restart time, kill sayaka in secret again and try to recruit Mami this time
It would have still turned her into a which that was worse then Walpurgis. Only way to fix it was to change the system entirely IE generating pressure valve enemies for magical girls to fight an then yeeting the mahous out of existence when their time was up.
That assumes there was a winnable scenario. Homuras weapon options are whatever practical items she can steal/forces she can rally in the time provided. She spent a century trying to get the bitches to not suicide themselves in preparation for the final fight and the time they hands down won the whole purpose for her existence instantly became a world-ender witch.
I only watched the movies and I have no clue who this upside down bitch even is.
Why is it so strong?
Why does Madoka killing Walpurgis turn her into a witch?
Honestly the wish thing ruins the anime a lot. Having something as big as that, you would think about it a lot and ask for something intelligent that solves more than a problem at once. Madoka’s wish was very intelligent, because it made the life of mahou shoujos easier and saving a lot of people. By simply using the wishes better, all those deaths could’ve been stopped. Homura doesn’t act intelligent and approaches in a way that makes you think she isn’t someoneyou should trust. Think about it: Homura approaches as a friendly person and tries to be friend with Mami and Kyoko. If in this world Sayaka decides she wants to be a Magical Girl, Mami and a friendly Homura give her advice. That’s it. Like that, we can prevent Mami’s death in episode 3, defeat Walprugi (or however its written) and Madoka doesn’t become a magical girl. And yes, after so many retries she would’ve eventually figured out how to be social on her own.
Problems with that
>Sayaka and Mami die before Madoka understands whats going on = Madoka chosing the sacrifice play
>Madoka getting the whole story without having the necessary magical pressure build up Madoka makes a wish to protect people and becomes a magical girl and not Madokami
>Sayaka doesn't make Kyoko realize shes a lesbo, Kyoko stays a selfish greedy shit.
>She is already full hunter killer mode in reference to the incubators in the show.
Its an uber witch. where other whitches have paper craft monsters working as servants she has shadow realm magical girls. I think its implied she takes the souls of magical girls who fail to stop her since some of the shadow girls are shown alive being saved by the Madokami. Shes still just a city ending power though, and Madoka going witch had the Incubators wright of earth as a whole.
She ran out of magic energy
How exactly? They outright state that Madoka becomes more powerful with each loop, at some point she should just flick Walpurgis aside and be fine.
A magical girl always becomes a witch (or dies). If she's powerful enough to defeat walpurgis, then she'll be even worse than walpurgis when she turns.
Yeah but why specifically at that moment? Homura and Madoka could have stayed alive for a while longer before running out of magic or turning to witches.
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She has more power each loop but her soul can still only get so dirty before going witch. So once she goes mahou as soon as she does anything of any note shes going to pop. She gets around it by retconing the whole witch thing out of the universe.
I think it's safe to say Homura tried this already and it didn't work.
Why would Madoka choose to sacrifice herself without knowing shit?
Kyoko is a greedy slut, she would work with Homura to secure a big city full of witches. she doesn't need to be a good person, she just needs to fight walpurgis to get more seed or whatever she wants, then Homura can just kill her when they finish.
Madoka has a strong moral compass and a tendency for self sacrifice, even if Homura explained her what was going on she would just try to jum in and help at the first chance
Wishes aren't rigged to backfire
Her time traveling made Madoka more powerful with every loop, because she was going back to save her. But Homura was also going back in time to stop the Walpurgisnacht, so it became more powerful every round. She really never had a chance in hell.
She used too much magic and it corrupted her gem
>And don't wishes always backfire when they are for the greater good in some way?
No. It's just that QB is a sly fuck and usually exploits girl's weak moment to make a contract (see Mami and Sayaka) which is very beneficial for him in the long run because regrets = suffering = turning to witch faster = free energy for his keikaku.
>But Homura was also going back in time to stop the Walpurgisnacht, so it became more powerful every round.
That's not how it works. Her wish specifically bound Homu to Madoka.
Walpurgis didin't get any boost out of that. If it did Earth would be destroyed long before Madoka got enough wish juice to break QB's scheme.
Fuck Homura Akemi.
That is all.
I would if I could, but she keeps disappearing every time I try to catch her.
Don't know how she does it, it almost looks like magic.
You just explained why QB only offers contracts to mentally unstable/people in dire curcumstances.
Good point.
They literally said that Homura had been despairing more and more with each loop. She would become a witch faster than she would defeat Walpurgis.
The reason for the failure montage was to demostrate that there's NO way she could have beat it, dummy.