Nanoha and Fate aren't just friends; they're Best Friends!

They're in the main continuity, and almost certainly they also are in the unseen future of Innocent, if Vivio is any indication of it.

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No they aren't.

It's okay user, we don't hate on lesbians on this board as long as they're cute.

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But they aren't lesbians, let alone married.
Show me the anime episode / manga chapter where they got married.

They married offscreen to adopt Vivio.

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I can claim that they prostitute themselves to old men offscreen but that doesn't make it true.
Show me the anime episode / manga chapter where they got married.

>I can claim that they prostitute themselves to old men offscreen but that doesn't make it true.
No, that makes it an irrational belief, like you claiming that they're not lesbians, a claim needs to be backed up by an argument and evidence.

>Show me the anime episode / manga chapter where they got married.
That's an OTS fallacy.

>No actual evidence
>"I'm going to cite a particular fallacy to weasel my way out of this one"
Not today, user.

To be considered lesbians, anime girls need to do at least one of the following on-screen:
Kiss (in the mouth, as lovers do, not some granny peek in the cheek)
- Have sex (unambiguous sex)
- Declare their love to each other in no ambiguous terms
- Do NanoFate fulfill any of the above? It doesn't need to be a movie dedicated to their marriage; just a 10 seconds scene on any of their anime series where they kiss in the lips.

>To be considered lesbians, anime girls need to do at least one of the following on-screen:
I think that that's a pretty arbitrary standard, if you want to convince other people to use it you will have to demonstrate why it is the (only) objective standard to be used for anime and manga.

Did we ever get a movie with high-school aged Fate/Nanoha or are they still around A's in terms of age?

Life's easy if you make your own arbitrary reasons for a character to be a lesbian or not, how about I say, if they didn't want you to think they got married they wouldn't be releasing images like this Does that not look like a lesbian wedding you, just know that if you answer '"no'' you'll just look intentionally silly

That's easy; It's the only objective standard because it disregards any little shadow of doubt you can have about the characters' sexual orientation and relationship status.
Anything else can be interpreted on may different ways, not just romantic ones.
For example Someone believes that they're just very close friends. Someone else believes that they're straight and have boyfriends that they date off-screen. Another individual thinks that they're straight but they're waiting for "the one". All of them are valid because Nanoha and Fate's interactions show on-screen and on official materials don't confirm one or the other.
In fact the denial of depicting them on a non ambiguous romantic light after 15 years is very suspicious.

That's just art depicting the characters on a silly situation; it doesn't mean anything.
Just look at pic related. Because it was made by the anime staff it doesn't mean that Caska and Griffith actually hosted a radio show in some tropical location.

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>Life's easy if you make your own arbitrary reasons for a character to be a lesbian or not
Yeah, It's easier to apply that kind of epistemology in general because you have to think less and you can delude yourself to deny aspects of reality that you don't like or that go against your previous beliefs, but having a weak epistemology will make your life harder since you're most likely to have mistakes in decision-making.

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>I AM SILLY
>THEY RELEASED IT FOR NO REASON AT ALL

I don't think any of the marriage images are silly

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So this series sold the best when the characters were adults with cowtits. Why have they not gone back to that?

Bitch-kun got a job at the anime staff

>That's easy; It's the only objective standard because it disregards any little shadow of doubt you can have about the characters' sexual orientation and relationship status.
That's a claim about the benefits of using your standard, not an argument that reaches your standard as a conclusion, so you still have to prove your standard. You will also need to demonstrate why no other standard can be objective, since you're claiming that your standard is objective and is the only objective standard.

>All of them are valid because Nanoha and Fate's interactions show on-screen and on official materials don't confirm one or the other.
The fact that they're a married couple and have a family should be enough evidence to most people.

>That's just art depicting the characters on a silly situation; it doesn't mean anything.
All the wedding pictures came out after their marriage became canon. The official artworks are based on that context. The pictures alone are not enough evidence but they still are something to add up for the people that doesn't want to accept Vivid as canon.

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It is silly. It doesn't represent anything from the actual canon.
Again, there is official art of certain anime and manga depicting characters that are bitter enemies playing poker or in the middle of a party. That doesn't mean that in-story they're actual friends. It's just a silly thing. Like pic related.

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That's an association fallacy, every franchise handles their artworks independently. That said, I don't believe that an artwork alone is enough evidence to conclude that an event took place in the series' narrative, but it counts as extra evidence if it's consistent with everything else.

Again how is a wedding supposed to be silly, their wedding pictures look pretty serious.

all anime girls are lesbians

>You will also need to demonstrate why no other standard can be objective
Because ambiguity doesn't mean anything and the story can go one way or the other. Just look at Hibike Euphonium.

>The fact that they're a married couple and have a family should be enough evidence to most people.
Not for me. To me they look like roommates or adopted sisters.

>All the wedding pictures came out after their marriage became canon. The official artworks are based on that context
They aren't because they aren't supported by anything from the actual canon; they're just eye candy for the shipping audience.

The StrikerS VAs are gonna be at the event in January so we may get something related to that.

>they're just eye candy for the shipping audience.

So the staff wants the audience to perceive them as gay and they don't give you any reason to think otherwise, you perceiving two 30 year old women with a daughter that calls them mom and that are going to stay with each other for the rest of their lives as straight is on you.

>Because ambiguity doesn't mean anything and the story can go one way or the other.
Ambiguity is the opposite objectivity, I don't see how your claim is related to you demonstrating that there is no other possible standard that can be objective. Also you have yet to provide an argument to demonstrate how to conclude your standard.

>They aren't because they aren't supported by anything from the actual canon
In the canon they're a married couple and are official the Takamachi family.

Leaving all the serious discussion aside, I'm starting to think that you actually are convinced about what you're posting. Not that we will ever know one way or the other but it makes me wonder what can make a person have such a strongly biased opinion of an irrelevant anime.

I just watched Detonation. I believe someone already asked this question but was confirmed if Nanoha's new arm and eye are biomechanical?

Nothing is said in the movie, so I assume it should be biological, but technically we can't confirm it yet.

I already put my arguments on the table. I'm just waiting for you to prove me wrong. You haven't been able t-
>Spoiler
Well, guess what. I AM convinced of what I'm posting. Do you think I was baiting?
I hate NanoFate because it created a cancerous state of affairs: for the past 15 years it demonstrated that you can have Schrodinger's Lesbians: make them look gay but not gay enough to be confirmed gay so we can profit from the waifu otakus but not straight enough that we alienate the yuri fanbase.
That condemned us to a lifetime of yuribait, it denied us of cute, actual lesbians.

>falseflagging

Pretty pathetic desu, no true yurifag would even consider them getting fucked by fat old men or even use it as an example. Much less even saying that they are supposed to be straight.

I'm not falseflagging because, as you say, I'm not a yurifag.
I'm not a yurifag because I like anime and manga that depicts girls on actual romantic / sexual relationships with other girls; I don't like bait.
I hate bait because it's dishonest.

>I already put my arguments on the table. I'm just waiting for you to prove me wrong.
More than arguments you're making claims, and your claims needs to be backed with arguments and evidence. Me and other people already pointed out some problems with your arguments, but more importantly than that is that you need to demonstrate your claims, you still haven't made an argument to conclude your standard.

>Well, guess what. I AM convinced of what I'm posting. Do you think I was baiting?
Unfortunately like I said before I can't confirm if you're being honest or not, I was just asking because your type of epistemology is often seen in debates of people defending cults or pseudoscience, Flat Earthers are a favorite of mine to listen to or argue with.

>I'm not a yurifag because I like anime and manga that depicts girls on actual romantic / sexual relationships with other girls; I don't like bait.
You're good then, something like Hibike Euphonium is yuribait, the Nanoha franchise is not; in most continuities it's a seinen with yuri elements and in the main continuity and some others it's a seinen with yuri subtext.

>anime and manga that depicts girls on actual romantic / sexual relationships with other girls
That's called yuri.

>I don't like yuri but I'm gonna pretend I do so people don't call me out on my blatant anti yuri bias

Big brained

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Good, the amount of Nanoha cowtits doujinshi has been dropping at an alarming pace. Another StrikerS-type anime would keep it going at a good pace for at least 10 more years.

>sexual relationships with other girls
Everything points towards Nanoha and Fate having a very active sexual life.

Do we have source for that?

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So is there any news about if anything is coming after Detonation?

We don't know, the earlier we may know if Nanoha is continuing is next January during the next live event.

They’re soooo cute.

The guidebook states they're artificial replacements.

Does artificial necesarily imply mechanical? Could it be a biological or hybrid limb grown artificially in a tube?

>Do we have source for that?
Yep.
twitter.com/lyricalnanoha_/status/1147883219791908865

The current theories are either StrikerS movies, a Force adaptation, or a Strike sequel about the Vivids joining the TSAB.

>Force
I wouldn't expect an adaptation of a cancelled manga. Force's concept didn't work back then and I doubt it would work with today's audience.

Detonation had Tsuzuki take a bunch of Force concepts and reuse them, so yeah, it's dead. Unfortunately. If Force hadn't been a manga, things would've turned out much differently for both it and the series as a whole.

Post nanoha corrupted and mindbreaked

No

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This is actually the 4th thread in a row that bitch-kun hasn't shown up in. He's missed individual threads before (probably on accident), but I don't remember the last time he was absent from 4 in a row. He must either be dead or locked up in a mental institution where he belongs.

What am I supposed to do with my collection of Fuuka now?

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Nano-
...ha?!
A... A dream?
Thank goodness! It was a dream after all!
I can't believe I had a wet dream at this age...
And I got the sheets really messy...
Fate-chan?
Na-Nanoha! This isn't...!
...Huh?
G-Good morning, Fate-chan.
Na... Nanoha?!
Um... Are you okay?
What?! Even though I woke up from the dream, why is Nanoha still small?!
Fate-chan... You still have morning wood after that wet dream?
Eh?!

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Your lust telepathically leaked out of your dream...
Eh?!
Do you really want to ravish me that way?
Eh... Na-Nanoha?
You're so naughty.
Fufu, you're still stiff, Fate-chan...
Ahn...! Nanoha...
Seeing that dream got me all worked up, too.
Now I want to have my way with Fate-chan.
Na-Nanoha! That's...!
Ahn! Nanoha! Aaah!
This...! Little Nanoha is being so aggressive this time!
She's completely different from the innocent Nanoha in my dream!
Nanoha! I'm gonna cum...!

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Such a good artist

Wait a second I am only on A's but they grow up?!?!?! Dropped

You've got the rest of A's and two more movies where they're lolis, calm down.

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Vivio is so cute

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They moved to an alien world, bought a house, share a bed, and raised a child together.
They are a romantic couple.

Nanoha raises Vivio.

To me he was last seen shitting up a Nanoha thread at the same time a Nanoha/Symphogear thread was going on which was free of him. This was only a few days ago as well. He’ll probably be back.

Nanoha will find a boyfriend someday.

Maybe I missed it but in the BD book scans I didn't see anything about the replacement limbs

>or a Strike sequel about the Vivids joining the TSAB.
Just Vivio and friends or the entire crew from Vivid Strike?

Vivio technically already works at the tsab working at the library.

Would any of the Vivid kids even be good combat mages?

Vivio if she ever got her Sankt Kaiser core repaired, but Ixy still hasn't done that yet for whatever reason.

I'm not sure Vivio even wants that done.

The guidebook and the book that came with the BD are apparently separate entities with different information. I'd like to get a hold of the guidebook myself to put the question to rest since it's all hearsay from people who have actually seen it.

that's nice dear

I can see Einhart and Rinne being pretty good at it

>Nanoha/Symphogear thread
That was a fun thread

What other magical girls are space worthy?

Both Nanoha and Fate raise their daughter, but Nanoha is the ones that spends most of the time with her, Fate is the stereotypical Japanese father that works too much and isn't home half of the time according to the words of the author.

She already has one named Fate.

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Whoops, wrong image. Can't find the translated version of this at the moment. Been meaning to organize my Nanoha images for years.

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Reminder Nanoha and Madoka had a official cross over.

I know one.
animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=8720

She's like a mahou shoujo with accelerator-like power to deflect everything. She can even split star.

Houkago no Pleiades was all about space. I can't remember if Sailor Moon ever did or if it just seems like it should have based on the show's theme. Madoka sort of did but not really in the context of space flight.

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Translated.

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>various precures, at least with powerups
>at least some girls in mai hime and mai otome
>all the geahs
>yuki yuna and tougo
>pleiades
Nanoha sure took her time considering she was already airborne and used to spaceships from s1 onwards.

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If you're a lolicon nothing to do but to abandon the franchise.
They are not even that small in the non recap movies, not lewd either and canonically lolis are weak compared to adults.

Thanks. I swear I'm organizing my folder of 3300 unsorted images right now. I'm like 15% done. But I'm not sure how useful this is going to be when my "Nanoha" folder has copies of like 60% of everything and the "Fate" folder isn't much better. Or maybe that's just because I haven't even gotten to when Vivid aired yet.

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That was the first in the series of peaceful threads. They've all been peaceful since then. That was almost a week ago. Maybe the bitch is on vacation. We'd better enjoy it while it lasts.

>they live in the same house
>they sleep in the same bed
>both women are legal guardians of Vivio
>plenty of official art depicting them as bride and groom / bride and bride
>but they aren't lesbians because they never made an episode about it

Brown eyed Nanoha is weird.

Don't forget all the hot lesbian sex.

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It's weird how people keep reposting that one page over and over. I think it's just because most know that it says "Adult Time" at the bottom. If you want a page with some better support for your argument, use this one from later in the same chapter.

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There are so many of those, I just picked one at random.

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SHINFOGEAH

I haven’t been on Yea Forums in a few days. Link to the other threads?

Canonically, they're lesbians, but Japan has no gay marriage, so neither does Mid-Childa. Hence they aren't married, though perhaps they would be if they could.

Is nanoha a cocksleeve?

They had to marry to adopt Vivio, so even if a planet with 90% female population doesn't allow lesbuan marriage they could have done it back on Earth.

No, neither should she be.
Lindy however, is another matter.
Caro is too, but exclusively for Erio.

No, Fate is the cocksleeve, and she's for Nanoha's futa-cock exclusive use.

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According to the Cyclone doujins, yes

#4 is this one. He was last seen when he spammed Ron's Detonation release thread to death 6 days ago.

Yes

Thanks user

>Japan has no gay marriage
It is now, but maybe not a countrywide.

plot twist: ron is bitch-kun and its like jekyll and hyde, after releasing detonation he unleashed the last of his energy and died

Why the bare tummy?

Why not?

Do they fuck

Man I wish Hayate got a power up too. I liked the entire rock paper scissors thing going on between Nanoha Fate and Hayate.