Dude, just stop being insecure and love yourself and make friends

They're both the ending to Evangelion dumbass. TV is what's happening internally, EoE is what's happening externally

Well it's a good thing Anno doesn't believe himself to be wise or knowledgeable then.

No, TV ending literally only exists because they had no money or time left to do the real ending, which would have been a lower budget 45 minute version of EoE

TV ending was the best ending
EoE was a neat sequel tho

grow a pair incel

what a fucking casual. fuck off

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That gif's from the Video version of 26'!
Surely that means there's rips of the Pre-Renewal DVDs, right?

>be Anno
>create the ideal woman
>shove her in a story about leaving escapism and opening yourself
>she becomes the most influential character in otaku culture
>real women are acting like Misato and men are getting sick of it
>get so butthurt you need to make 4 new movies to throw her under the bus

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Source: Your ass
TV ending is canon, fucking deal

>It is a commonly held belief that Hideaki Anno created End of Evangelion as a form of revenge against Evangelion fans unhappy with the existing ending to the TV series. In reality, the End of Evangelion is closer to the original concept for the series ending, which was changed due to budget and censorship issues.

>It's not that easy
That's the point. That's literally the point.

>she becomes the most influential character in otaku culture
Eh, rei's cool and all but her whole shit has been done before by a guy called chirico

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Nooooobody said it'd be eeeeesssssaayyyyyy

Why did so many Japanese movies have this kind of shitty ending in the 90s? Was it economy blues? Or was there some popular work everyone was copying?

>i-it´s hard
You´re never gonna leave that fucking basement

Literally who. Go make a thread about him then.

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you're right.
but shinji was handed out pussy and used a mecha.
that is just retarded, just not being edgy and stupid works

Maybe people would leave their basement if it was worth something

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Maybe if you and just about everyone else wasn't such a piece of shit it would be worth the effort.

>by a guy called chirico
>Literally who
Are you blind?

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>I'm not the problem, everyone else is!

Whomst might that be?

Literally who. Go away, nobody cares about your irrelevant bullshit.

Why should I?
For false promises and the distant possibility of happiness?
How is that any different than me just using the rest of my life jacking off and watching anime?

>ideal woman

>>she becomes the most influential character in otaku culture
In 2000s moe culture. It's not an accomplishment, it's a blight.

Anno argues that escapism isn't happiness though.

>nobody cares about your irrelevant bullshit.
Care to explain why you replied?

Stop pretending to be retarded

Reminder that TV end is happiness Shinji finds in an instrumentality initiated by Gendo.

The advice Anno was actually going for was to buy a bunch of hedgehogs, tie them together and start swinging them in a circle so that everyone feels warmth even if it hurts them to do so.

Escapism is a buzzword.

It's called telling you to fuck off with your off-topic trash. Rules are rules.

>anime
>on an anime board
>off-topic
lmao

Lmao watch Gundam you dumb fuck pleb

>every thread is about every anime out there
So that's how desperate retards think.

>off-topic trash
>she becomes the most influential character in otaku culture
Nothing off-topic about proving something wrong user.

I see you're still fantasizing about literal whos being big influencers in the industry.
That's just sad user.

EoE was already being produced before 25 and 26 came out dumbo

Yeah pretty much this. Fake it 'till you make it and hope your autism doesn't catch up with you.

>only 15 months between ep 26 and eoe airing
Is that enough time to make a movie like eoe, or would they have had to start it when nge was still airing? I thought 25 and 26 were the way they were because they ran out of time and money by that point. Some episodes were so rushed at the last minute there wasn't even time to screen them past the censors before airing. It seems ridiculous to think anno would be fucking with eoe during that chaotic mess when he didn't even know how well the tv ending would be received.

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Stop throwing a tantrum and realise that everything has an inspiration like how rei is inspired by chirico

I'll totally believe a random person on the internet, surely nobody lies on the internet.
Yeah, no. I've also just noticed you're stalking evangelion threads to shill this stuff too, holy shit man seek help.

>no don't lecture me please
Shut the fuck up retard and go make friends

>I've also just noticed you're stalking evangelion threads to shill this stuff too
Anons(supposedly you) constantly repeat that rei is the most influential character in otaku culture(even If her shit's been done before) but that isn't shilling?, shame on me then.

Gundam is/was atleast a honest take on the horrors of war. Eva is pretentious psychoanalysis crap written by a self hating otaku.

I don't want friends though. I've had plenty of them and it's a pain in the ass.

The whole point of art is to capture and communicate the subjective human experience you braindead chimp.

Can someone tell me why there are so many eva threads recently?

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Nutflex

Ok, I know that, but is translation bad or something? Why such commotion?

i've seen your stupid ass in three different threads now, fuck off with your weak meme.

>Netfilx releases EVA
>Lots of normalfags have vaguely heard of it, but they don't watch stuff that's not on their muh bingewatch stream site
>Retards flood the internet confused over what they just watched

Cause Reddit/crossboarders need to discuss it like it's airing because they haven't seen even the most common series. Same reason BNHA is treated like the first shounen ever, they haven't seen anything else to set the bar for.

Buy glasses, I've been in two(this being the second) and there's no meme just truth

To answer your question: yes, it's probably the worst official release of Evangelion.

Damn that's no good, but thanks for explaining

Wrong. Here is what actually happened:
>The original plan is for episode 25 to be roughly similar to the first half of EoE (25'), with episode 26 being an amalgam of the 25 and 26 that were eventually broadcast.
>The original episode 25 is scrapped due to fears it will be construed as a pro-Aum allegory in the wake of police raids on Aum locations after the sarin attack. (Evangelion did not begin broadcast until six months after the attack, but I presume they felt the events were still too vivid in the public memory (and didn't realise it until they were closing in on production)). (The alternative theory is that episode 25 is conceived, but then quickly shot down for the same reasons).
>There is a struggle to produce some form of episode 25 that links 24 and 26, this fails to produce something in time.
>To make up for this, episode 26 is extended to fill most of episode 25 as well, with an additional ten minutes of material added at the start to provide the barest minimum of linking material required to link 24 and 26, which vaguely hints at the events of the planned episode 25 while conspicuously omitting anything about the JSSDF attack.
1/2

>In the wake of fan discontent after the broadcast of episode 26, plans are very quickly put in place to produce an OVA of the original planned episode 25 and 26, presumably thinking that memories of the attack and ensuing police reaction will have faded enough by the time of release that eyebrows won't be raised.
>Somewhere along the line this morphs into two films - one a recap of the series followed by an extended version of the OVA, one an original Evangelion film that has no connection with the series.
>Also at some point, the plan to make the original planned version of episode 26 is scrapped in favour of a completely new ending; this is at least partially fueled by Anno's strong discontent with the message and themes of the original ending.
>When it becomes clear that the first film will not hit its release date, the second film is scrapped in favour of a completed version of the original half of the first; the first film ends up with only half an hour of what it was supposed to get.
>And, of course, from there we have the two films we know today as Death & Rebirth and End of Evangelion.

Fuck off psycho

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The power of headcanon

With the internet is easier than ever

Not only it's not easy but the whole premise to develop this theme is absolutely retarded.
Eva is 6/10 at most

Why, our lord and saviour, Chirico Cuvie. One of the most reknown armoured trooper VOTOMS pilots from the Gilgamesh Federation's Red Shoulder battalion and destroyer of the supreme intelligence Overman on Quent.

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>Same reason BNHA is treated like the first shounen ever, they haven't seen anything else to set the bar for.
Surely everyone's watched at least one of the big traditional shounen like Nardo Bleach DB One Piece etc etc

Meant to reply to

Shinji should have just killed himself.

Absolute horseshit. Stop making excuses.

He tried at the beginning of EoE

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TV End>EoE end

Otaku unironically make the best anime

I feel you, bro.
Ignore these retarded Chads.
They surely aren't even virgin. What an absolute waste of space haha.

Maybe one piece and Naruto, but I know plenty of people just a few years younger who didn't see DBZ or yu yu Hakusho etc. That limited experience is going to obviously lead to bias appreciation that's undeserved.

>vaguely hints at the events of the planned episode 25 while conspicuously omitting anything about the JSSDF attack.

Shit, so the JSDF attack on NERV was too similar to the Japanese police rading Aum? Makes a lot of sense

TV ending is what an idealistic but severely depressed Anno would want to happen. It's a fantasy. EoE is what would actually happen if Shinji was confronted with the choice of Instrumentality.

>it's not that easy
That's why the ending of EoE is so good, Shinji goes through this whole journey and learns he can love himself but he still winds up in an apocalyptic hellhole and starts choking Asuka. No escapism allowed

>tfw it's too late for you
i gave up on being happy
i just coast through until i die
i may speed it up because the feeling of being an emberessment to my family is too much to bear

it's never too late, but quit believing in the happiness meme being ok with yourself is more important.

>Sephirotic said after his final update to his release that he was going to release a version of episode 16 that isn't completely fucked
> 3-4 years later
>nothing, or minimal posting on related sites either saying soon(tm), or that Seph is currently holding up the project due to irl shit
I guess there will never be an acceptable version of episode 16 ever released. Gainax is so fucking stupid, how do you end up storing your masters in such a way that only one of them gets destroyed by a flood? Also why doesn't Khara just reanimate the entire episode themselves using period correct equipment, styles, and technique?

If you pick Rei, you miss the whole point of Eva. Better to confront reality (Asuka) than run away to an unattainable and unrealistic ideal (Rei).

Well, look at everything Rei represents (for the bulk of the series anyways). She's a submissive fantasy, with some oedipal implications to boot. We already know how NGE portrays escapism and the otaku-ism that Anno is critical of, and Rei kind of perfectly embodies all of that. Rebuild pushes that same bill much further, with much more focus, especially since the franchise has had a long history of interaction with its audience by that point. Rei in 2.22 plays to waifu-fantasies by cooking for Shinji and acting a bit moe (keep in mind that Rei never does anything for herself the entire movie), and then Rei Q exposes her as always having been a creepy mommy-clone with no self-identity the entire time, simply taking orders. She's a fake person, and represents everything that NGE wants you to avoid, not love.

>why doesn't Khara just reanimate the entire episode themselves using period correct equipment, styles, and technique?
I'm glad that they're not trying to do this. The would've inevitably George Lucas'd it.

*They

Yeah, and kaworu in 3.0 literally says to you that it doesn't matter, all that matters is that you try and and keep trying till you get good at it

Took me like a week buddy

Fuck Anno and FUCK reality.

>"I'm socially insecure and have social anxiety, but I do nothing to help myself or even try to go out of my comfort zone please pity me internet strangers"
Fuckin' half you folks right there. Pisses me off. If you've got time to complain you've got time to fix yourself or find someone else to help you.

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>Havent talked to anyone except family or old old friends in last 6 years outside of forced interaction
>Barely scarping in Uni
>Cant do anything, completely lethargic
>Thinking about suicide every day
Shinji had it easy

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How? They would be stuck with an already existing script and VA lines, there wouldn't be any room for deviation. And I'm pretty sure some of the VAs from the original Eva died and their characters had to be recasted for the rebuilds, so they really can't rerecord.

There's no point in going out of your comfort zone. It isn't worth it. Anno was wrong.

Don't underestimate people's capability to fuck something up.

I don't think Anno is trying to undermine Rei, he's just developing further what she's always, IMO, been : a subversion of the "cute kudere with coloured hair who secretly have Warm And Fuzzy Feelings for the hero" fantasm a lot of otakus love.
He first developed Rei II in order to make the Average Otaku© think it's an average cute kudere romance, then he violently reminded them Evangelion isn't about escapism or moe (a thing some fans and a large part of the merchandising seems to haven't realized). That's why Asuka, the real woman, always wins. In short, it's just Anno being Anno and Eva being Eva.

>Just be yourself bro, worked for me!
>Better to confront reality (Asuka) than run away to an unattainable and unrealistic ideal (Rei).
No thanks. I don't think sucking up to a 3D skank sounds appealing.

And If you pick either girls, youre missing out on the best one

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But Rei invented that trope.

Additionally, I know that this could end up horribly, a good example would be LotGH. The studio reanimated some specific scenes digitally for their BluRay rerelease, which is incredibly jarring when watching the show, and arguably looks worse than the original animation. However the original animation can only be found on the laser disk and is interlaced and halo'd to all hell, so the only acceptable visual release is the lower quality one, since no one is autistic enough to actually process the scenes enough to match the bluray.

Stop being selfish, user.

Said like someone who has never been depressed. You cant fix yourself, its about the chemical instability in your brain and debilitating weakness.

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Like LotGH's Blu-ray release where they digitally reanimated scenes for a cell shaded anime and caused massive style shifts from scene to scene in certain episodes?

Stop making other weep over the internet

If Asuka is the real woman then Kaworu just symbolizes trying to escape to homosexuality because real women sucks?

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Wtf i love Kaworu now.

Yes. Him being also an angle symbolizes the fact that men are perfect beings the world doesnt deserve.

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I'd say anno pioneered it not invent

Huh, i never thought about it that way, but it makes sense, the former part at least, Kaworu shows up when all women in Shinji life were away from him in some form, so he resorts to homosexuality.

I've seen way more people who had already watched Eva complaining about every single change made by Netflix than new viewers discussing the show

Imagine thinking someone like Asuka would be worth the trouble. On top of how much of a piece of shit she already is, she would in the real world also be a massive whore, as that is the only way she's going to get validation. I'll stick to my cute girl manga, thank you very much.

Meanwhile, Rei becomes a mage after human instrumentality.

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I have been and I worked fucking hard to get over it. Stop assuming bullshit just because I happen not to be a bitch about it. Some people have a genuine illness, that happens and it sucks for them. But there are a ton of ways to get over depression if you look for them and stop pitying yourself. chemicals in the brain can be altered by changing your lifestyle, almost every study ever on the topic shows that isolating yourself makes it worse, inregular sleep patterns make it worse etc etc. I've worked with therapists and I've seen boatload of teenagers and young adults thay claimed to be 'depressed' and they're always like "cam't we just talk for an hour and have you magocally remove my depression? I hate hard work :(". Depression is such a fucking buzzword it drowns out the voices of the people that actually need help

I literally said nothing about being yourself. I said take a proactive stance in your life and work towards helping yourself or getting outside help. If you insist on wallowing in your own sadness go lock yourself up in your room and don't bother the rest of us with your self pity

>to confront reality (Asuka)
But Asuka is the one who runs away from reality the most.

Sorry for the typos. Being pissed doesn't serve my typing abilities well I'm afraid.

Just because you can´t turn into a 100% normal human doesn´t mean you shouldn´t try at all. Most people people are defectuous, but the reason it isn´t apparent is because they have the decency to get off their ass and try to improve. If you´re not even gonna bother, have the self respect to tie the noose and leave this place, as living another day isn´t going to change anything

People like you are why society deserves mass shooters.

then become that mass shooter, at least then you´d be doing someothing for once i your life

Wait, so the world deserves mass shooters because we want to help people not wallow in a spiral of self pity?

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Does the ''A'' in EVA stand for anorexia? Holy shit look at those skellies.

Nice projection faggot. Who are you to define what is self improvement and what is not? There you go complaining about people whom you have never met not doing shit.

Commit kys.

Not everyone has the luxury to change their lifestyle, how gracious for you to suggest it however. Just sleep better lmao

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Star Wars IV is finished and filmed with no need to do anything with the footage, and yet Lucas still adds to it in a myriad of ways at every re release
That user fears that just working on the old material again with current eyes will transform the material into something different from what it was

>help people
You're just trying to feel good about yourself, just like that depressed sack of shit when he made eva. Being a preachy cunt is not the same as compassion.

TV kaworu represents what shinji wants
Some one who just loves him unconditionally
Rebuild kaworu is there to remind you that that is also escapism and that you should be working on doing something with your life, even if you suck at it, just find something you like and try your best at it
It's why he dies at then end of 3.0 and why the movie has so much focus on shinji learning the piano with him

Normal humans can be unhappy too. Why do you want them to be normal humans? maybe they aren't fit for that.
Most unsatisfaction comes from high expectations. Maybe they will follow your advice and become normal. Then maybe they will discover that actually sucks.

But why make it a boy and not a cute grill like Mana.

If you're insecure then you need to man up and change what makes you insecure
Stop being fat, stop being stinky, stop being weak
It's not had

To drive home that shinji will accept any one who loves him unconditionally regardless who or what that person is because he just wants some one to love him without having to love back

Asuka spells this out to the viewer during the kitchen scene in eoe in case you missed it during the TV series

Also, stop being asthmatic so that you could join the military.

i get the feeling that this is the kind of person that goes to danberu threads just to sperg out at people for trying to get /fit/

unironically stop being sad

(sorry for replying so late, i leaved the thread for a moment)

I'm just saying the truth. I used to be like you, i was lazy, i didn't want to interact with others, i was only thinking about my interests, never going outside of my confort zone, always thinking about being depressed and suffering. And then i realised i was a selfish piece of garbage that couldn't stop thinking about himself and his own suffering instead of other people, and i changed for the better by becoming selfless and humble. I used to think i was a good person, but this was far from the truth for my ancient me, i was only good in my head. It's difficult to explain, and it's the first time i talk about it on the internet but that's how it works. If you are a good person deep inside, you cannot afford to be selfish or else it will create a conflict inside of your mind that will make you depressed and broken. You have the choice, you either go down the path of selfishness by becoming a total asshole and assuming the consequences that go with it or you decide to become a good person by being selfless like i did. So wipe your tears and take a choice, user.

You'll understand someday

Are you a communist now?

No, communism is materialistic and based on envy and jealousy, which goes against my values. Also it doesn't work

This.
Anno's own series even demonstrates that any time Shinji manages to leave his comfort zone, the universe decides to royally fuck him over as punishment.

Damn, if Asuka is what you consider a "real woman" I pity your female friends.

Trannies are not females, user.

>communism is materialistic
correct, if you're an ML
>based on envy and jealousy
not correct
>Also it doesn't work
not correct

have sex

it's not just that -- both of them are clearly dangerous extremes that you should avoid like the plague. asuka is a neurotic extreme tsundere, and rei is a dead fish submissive girl (quiet girl? fuck if i know)

Don't try to endoctrinate me, (((marxism))) is a destructive ideology and has nothing to do with helping others

Oh, you're a nazi. You're such a good person. Gotta be selfless for the white race to survive right?

False dichotomy. Hating jews does not imply being a white nationalist (especially when you're not white)

No, the world still deserves mass shooters because people like you (and the majority of Japan in general) still believe in vastly outdated ideologies regarding mental illness.

Not every mental illness functions like some form of moderate depression that can eventually be "cured" through juvenile means of advice, like preaching or encouraging others to "talk more" or to "step outside."

You can't teach a genuine psychopath, sociopath or narcissist to "love" themselves first, so that they can eventually learn to "love" others.
You can't just tell genuine autists to "try engaging in small talk" more, so that they can meet new people and form better relationships.
You can't make bipolars happy by potentially throwing them into seemingly happy situations.
You can't give a borderline positive relationship advice and expect them to follow through with it.

Because people like this are literally neurologically, genetically, biologically incapable of doing so.
Some of them can be helped, but not through "normal" means. They have to seek treatment that accommodates their matter of thinking, and how they neurologically process things. Autism, namely high-function autism, is a good example of this. But autists will never be truly "cured," so to speak.
Then there are those like bipolars or schizophrenics, who require medication and and other biological forms of treatment to improve their mental state. But it still isn't enough.
Then there are those unlucky ones who can't be cured by anyone or anything in currently speaking. Psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, borderlines and etc. These people are doomed to be empty husks for their entire lives, their only hope being the possibility that further advancements neurology, psychiatry, psychology and general science will be able to discover some form of treatment that improves their mental health.

And that's the reason why Anno's message is ultimately outdated, childish, preachy fantasy bullshit.

Some can, this is aimed at them.

But in 99.8% of cases I would be right. It's a reasonable assumption to make.

>You can't make bipolars happy by potentially throwing them into seemingly happy situations.

You can teach them how to lie and act happy, though. Speaking from first-hand experience.

>But in 99.8% of cases

Not worldwide

>Shinji fucks Asuka, Rei and Misato at the same time

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We're on Yea Forums.

Well, not necessarily -white- nationalism, but hating jews is always a surefire sign of some kind of nationalism.

He fucks asuka
Gropes rei
Kisses misato
Shin-kun is a player

>Well, not necessarily -white- nationalism,
National bolsheviks aren't really nationalist. Certainly not in the traditional sense.

Do not have sex

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They hate jews anyway tho, so my point stands.

You do know the Bolsheviks were Jews right? Unless you want to call them self hating or something.

Yeah they're antisemites. Doesn't make it nationalist however.

So hating a supremacist people that want to destroy the world automatically makes you a nationalist now?

>You can't just tell genuine autists to "try engaging in small talk" more, so that they can meet new people and form better relationships.

No, but you can introduce them to a healthy circle of acquaintances and easy their way into making small bonds with other people till they become more comfortable with themselves around other people and even develop friendship and love for others
They respond a lot more to non verbal input than you expect too
t. Some one who works with autistic people from all ages and all "degrees" of autism

You're doing it wrong.

Brilliant.

They really weren't. A portion of the old guard who were around in 1917 were Jewish Bolsheviks. By 1927/8 and Stalin's consolidation of power almost all Jews had been deported or executed, not for their ethnicity but just because Stalin cleaned house.

>I've had plenty of them and it's a pain in the ass.
doubt

>I don't want friends though. I've had plenty of them and it's a pain in the ass.
How many of your friends have been in your ass?

Shinji did.

Everyone can change

Okay, where are my three attractive love interests and a sense of purpose thrust upon me?

Likeliness says right in plain sight. You just won't recognize it.

Yes but one is your mother in a younger body and 2 are suffering a hedgehog dilemma with you.
A white haired pretty boy with show up later that you’ll fall in love with.

>People dont change user they can only adapt
>Shinji did.
with the help of a OP robot, his mommy and even his ass hole dad

there are people dont have shit backing them up

Neon genesis is such shit and Anno is a mentally depraved boomer scum

lol just pick yourself by the bootstraps you socially inept NEET

I hope you rot in hell Anno

Even so, they can change.

No they do

>Better to confront reality
why

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Depression Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Think Positive Things Like Nigga Be Happy Haha

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>It's not that easy, you fucking neckbeard hack.
If you keep using chinese cartoons to find something applicable to reality you're not going to find it any easier, true true (it's like you people use the defeatist shit in anime to limit yourselves because you think its cool)

But the reality is that it's easy as fuck to make friends, there's literaly a book out there called "how to make friends" and shit, the problem is keeping them

>But the reality is that it's easy as fuck to make friends, there's literaly a book out there called "how to make friends" and shit
There are books on tons of different things, doesn't mean anything. Also How To Make Friends And Influence People is a Reddit meme book

>No, but you can introduce them to a healthy circle of acquaintances and easy their way into making small bonds with other people till they become more comfortable with themselves around other people and even develop friendship and love for others

AKA accommodating their matter of thinking and how the neurologically process things.
Which was something that I mentioned in my previous posts.
However, you obviously can't apply the same methods to other mental illnesses or disorders.

Yeah and he realized he fucked up and made the based ending where everyone looses, apart from (((Seele)))

>just sleep better
This just tells me you have no clue how the human body, including the psyche, even works. Obviously you can't 'sleep better' but there lots of ways to sleep more and most importantly, going to bed and waking up at consistent hours. Even on free days or weekends. Inregular sleeping schedules are very toxic for general human health. I know there is no one-size fits all treatment to depression or related issues, that's why I don't "preach" a 'cure'. My advice, however tough-love my approach, is to be more proactive in changing the things you can for the better instead of wasting that energy on conplaining. And trust me I know some people have real issues, but I also know a lot of people pretend to have real issues so they can avoid responsiblity or adulthood

Have you ever noticed how some anime totally contradict their own message or contradict their character presonality?

In No Game No Life, you remember Sora and Shiro. Sora is a virgin hikki NEET with no friends. But throughout the show we see he is vastly intelligent, outgoing, people/street smart, has a good relationship with his sister and a healthy sex drive, and actually makes friends quite easily (in the new world).

How does that even work

So then what should I do to help people? There's always people crying here about how depressed or sad their life is without really doing anything about it. Should you just gently pat them on the back and promise them tomorrow will be better? Sure you might not care to help them, but I feel for people stuck in their minds because it can be genuinely bad for them so I'd like to help.

>hurr durr muh genetics
i'm literal aspie and i turned out just fine, i used to be grayon-muncher tier and just like with anything else you need to put the effort in to get any decent returns out of it

being normal is a meme anyway, everybody is varying degrees of fucked

Partially see this: To add to this: you're obviously talking about people with REAL issues. My original statement, and other statements I made thereafter are talking about "half of you", which I later clarify with people who aren't really depressed or ill. People who talk themselves in spirals they can quite easily escape, people who have a lot of potential but hold themselves back because of being too passive or too weak willed to go outside their comfort zone. There are an ever increasing amount of diagnosises of depression and you can't, for one fucking second, make me believe these are all serious mental illnesses. Depression is a buzzword and it has muddied the waters and made it hard for real victims to be heard or taken seriously. I don't think my ideologies are necessarily outdated, I think there just was a miscommunication between us.

>t.faggot

Characters have to be loser NEETs so the audience can relate, but they can't actually act like loser NEETs or else you don't have an enjoyable plot.

Not that user, but IMO the first step is realizing that not all people can help themselves or be helped in a similar manner, because everyone is suffering from their own unique combinations of traumas, issues, struggles, mental illnesses, disabilities, tumultuous relationships, addictions; what have you.

Patting people on the back and telling them to cheer up will work for some, but not all.
Telling people to get their acts together through a 'baby steps' routine of positive, self-fulfilling activities and actions will work for some, but not for all.
There are various means and ways of treating people. And for you, maybe patting someone on the back or giving them the 'tough love' approach and telling them to 'man-up' is the best you can do, and that's fine! Because those methods do and will have a positive effect maybe even a profound effect - on some individuals. But the issue that so many people fail to miss, is that their methods for helping others aren't the sole solution. Some people can help others through an understanding of their neurology and how their brains function and process things. IE - counseling, teaching methods, schedules, recorded habits and so on. Others can help by advancing the medical, neurological, psychiatric, pharmaceutical fields, and so on.

Well I'm happy knowing that you turned out fine, user. But Keep in mind that this only applies you, and not to everyone else. what about the autists who weren't as gentically, socially or environmentally lucky as you? Like the low-functioning ones that can't even speak? It's probably much more difficult for them. And some might not be able to improve at all, for the time being.

>hurr durr muh genetics
As someone who belongs to a facet of the "incurable husk" group (i.e. - cluster B personality disorders,) then yes. The shitty genetics lottery game fucking sucks, and is a huge issue that needs to be researched and taken seriously. Not downplayed or ignored.

thing is he's not the only one and the statement isn't even his to begin with, it belongs to this guy who basically has a phd in otaku culture and history
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroki_Azuma

it really doesn't take much digging into evangelion or rei to find his works

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Understanding != accepting. Anno accidentally created an ideal worth obsessing over.

Fuck reality and fuck cheap whores like Asuka and Misato.

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>t. double faggot

>he literally turns Rei into a symbol for escapism in 2.0
>then forces Shinji to abandon his conceptions about her in 3.33
Nah, he's totally trying to kill her and everything she represents. He will never forgive himself for creating her.

because new people wouldnt know the changes nor care

Call me a bastard but I don't agree with that as evangelion or rei as a whole wouldn't even exist without it's inspirations.

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>Yes but one is your mother in a younger body
She's cute, though. And her soul belongs to someone else, not your mother. What's the problem?

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people like you are either called contrarians or ignorant morons

given how you didn't know about hiroki I'd say it's the latter
especially the moron part because simply saying that X is true without showing why X is a true statement is peak stupidity

Did you just insult our lord Jesus Christ?

>because simply saying that X is true without showing why X is a true statement is peak stupidity
>Rei and chirico are both vessels for gods(rei being lllith and chirico being one for wiseman)
>both of them have blue hair and are emotionless until they develop some
>both of them were soldiers in their youth
>both of them defy the will of their creators
Need I go on?

DNA wise she’s also the whole of earths mom. You really gonna fuck your great times infinity grandma?

>neckbearded hack calling someone a neckbearded hack
nani desu ka?

>rei
>emotionless
>ever
fucking hell dude
worse still, even if the similarities are true nothing of it implies causality and there is no statement from Anno saying anything of the sort

Quads of truth, faggots BTFO

>You really gonna fuck your great times infinity grandma?
Well, look at it from a slightly different angle. If the ancient goddess mother of all humanity loved you and only you, would you really say no to her?

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Anno said nothing about ultraman as a source of inspiration for evangelion but the clues are already there
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wiki.evageeks.org/images/thumb/4/48/Ultraman-ace_comparison.jpg/360px-Ultraman-ace_comparison.jpg

So, I can say that anno was inspired by chirico cuvie and created rei who in turn pioneered the whole shit that chirico did

you can say whatever the hell you want but that doesn't make any of it true
if anything headcanon is an old term used in such situations

When you put it that way yeah, but Lilith is a horrifying being that genuinely scares me.

Already given you proof and you won't even consider it, looks like evafags like you can't handle Eva not being entirely original.

>you need an opportunity to love yourself
I don't think you understand

just be your self

Then seek the opportunity out

you gave me a few statements with no backing or causality and a couple of comparison pics that require a mental effort to look similar
nobody here is saying evangelion is entirely original simply because that's not true, what I'm saying is that you in particular have failed to substantiate your claims

some of us have actually bothered to read long academic publications regarding otaku culture and evangelion in particular
some of us wasted hours watching videos made by people who read said publications
it's not my fault you don't enjoy me simply not accepting your word as truth

Speaking of which, he even made a fucking fan film of ultraman and that's even more proof
youtube.com/watch?v=mwm6fw7lu3w

They better let him make a fucking Ultraman movie after his GodZilla films success.

I've already spoonfeed you enough, go watch Votoms and see how rei is inspired by chirico since you don't want to listen to the obvious truth

That new dub must have been really good with all these threads up all the time now.

Thinking that Asuka vs Rei is some dumb reality vs unrealistic ideal dichotomy is missing the point of Eva.

Rei's character arc is that of a non-human learning to become human, value humanity, and value oneself. This makes Rei one of the most relevant characters to the idea of "confronting reality."

The dichotomy of Asuka vs Rei is learning about humanity through study of the past vs learning about humanity through growth and development into the future. For some, Asuka is a better approach to reality, but for others, Rei is a perfectly valid and even superior approach.

Damn straight

It's just as good as the 4.0 teaser that just dropped.

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>The truth is, I have no emotional attachment to Rei at all.

>In the midst of making Eva, I suddenly realized that I had forgotten her. Her very existence. For example, in episode seven, I remembered and added one shot with Rei. I had no attachment to her at all. I think that was okay, because in episode eight, she didn't appear. Not even in a single shot.

-Anno

Rei was never a character to me. She doesn't have a personality, and no real emotions. She's not even human. It's understandable if you have seen the show to dismiss that criticism as obvious considering her background, but that's not the point. I just don't see why these traits are appealing. She creeps me out and frustrates me more than anything (and I think Anno feels the same way). I can especially relate to Shinji and how he reacts to Rei in 3.0. That said I do see why people don't like Asuka: she's an egotistical narcissistic bitch, but that only proves she's human as opposed to some emotionless doll. Asuka is relatable. She's realistic. Some of us at some point have put up a front to mask some insecurities. Maybe we didn't act bitchy, but we can relate to those feelings. It's also easier to offer sympathy to Asuka. Once we know her past life, it's easier to accept some of the why's and how's of her personality, and is harder to trash on her. In short, I prefer a character that has a harsh bitchy narcissist personality then to one with none at all.

shinji doesn't fix all his problems in the last episode, he doesn't stop being insecure and instantly loves himself
what happened in the last episode is that he finally ACKNOWLEDGED his problems, and that's the first step every person should make in order to attempt to fix their problems

>Reminder
When was this ever stated, in the first place? I don't recall reading such shitty opinion before.

You need to be a real asshole to have 0 friends. Even introverted nerds like myself had 10 buddies to talk with.

The only guy I knew who had zero friends was some reprobate that didn't believe in hygiene.

I'm going to sound like an old person, but I think kids are generally nicer nowadays. Like kids back in the 80's-00's were much more vicious and intolerant than today's kids.

I was born in the 80s. Sure, there were some kids who beat you up, but that still didn't mean you couldn't have a friend or a handful.

Thank god for consoles. I really miss inviting my buddies over.

>shitty doll argument in 2019
If you didn't understand anything the first time then maybe you should rewatch the show instead of talking about it here. Rei was an intricate character with arguably more development than anyone else. You can call Q a non-character, but not the original. And I'm an asukafag.

Rei is Thanatos, the human desire to return to nothingness. Asuka is Eros, the human desire to live and enjoy life.

Rei is the Ego, the visible self. Asuka is the Super-Ego, the invisible other.
Rei is the moon, the maternal Yin. Asuka is the sun, the paternal Yang.
Rei is the immaterial ideal. Asuka is the material real.

People fight over which is the best one because they're fundamentally opposite to one another. It really is a fight between the real and the ideal and Anno clearly wants the audience to pick the real.

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Yes and no.

Post 2000's zoomers and above might be nicer from an IRL 'surface' perspective, but they're extremely two-sided, fickle and self-absorbed as shown by how they interact with other people online, even moreso than millennials/boomers.

Not to mention that many of their beliefs and ideals aren't exactly grounded on a firm grasp of reality, and that they can be far too soft for their own good.

If you're going to bring in Daoist yin-yang philosophy, then it's probably worth mentioning that Lao-zi argued in favor of yin over yang: the paternal bright yang is destined to decay to the maternal dark yin, whereas the maternal dark yin is destined to grow into the paternal bright yang. Therefore, it is better to embrace the yin, since it is destined to grow, whereas the yang can only burn out. Better to be a rising moon than a setting sun.

Rei starts weak with little personality, but grows and develops to the point that she can seize destiny into her own hands. Asuka starts out flashy and willful, but burns herself out and crashes into a catatonic mess.

I'll take too soft over being a bunch of shits. I had a guy hold me up against the lockers with a knife to my throat. I've seen a cat beaten to death behind the track shack. I've seen a fight break out between police and a trio of students on the bus. I've seen a student throw a chair at others in the cafeteria during a blackout. I've experienced people just randomly breaking my shit when I wasn't looking. I wasn't even going to one of the shitty schools either. Back in the old days, it was cool and acceptable to be the bully. Getting picked on for being a nerd or a geek may seem quaint now, but back then, you were basically food for the social predators.

While what you said is correct, you must remember that Anno chose the yang for this story. He wanted the audience to accept the painful real and stop fleeing to the comforting ideal, as shown in both endings of Eva but particularly on EoE - where Shinji and Asuka chose to refuse instrumentality whereas Rei is instrumentality itself, forever watching over those considered foolish and immature.

Cool except Asuka literally runs away from reality the entire series and refuses to face the real.
So your argument makes absolutely no sense.

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>Softness and empathy leads to complacency and liberalism.
I'm really empathic for the average male and I'm as pol as it gets

Did they ever make you suck their dicks?

She ultimately refuses instrumentality and accepts reality, no matter how bad it is, you goofus. Please don't enter Evangelion discussions if you have an IQ this low.

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This. The only people who got picked on at school were those who would have been weeded out in older (and better) societies such as Sparta or Rome. You get bullied, and you deserve it for being weak. It's society's way of telling you to GTFO.

So because she refuses instrumentality in the last scene of the movie this somehow retcons the ENTIRE series where she was running away from reality and living in delusional escapism more than anyone else?

To argue Asuka represents reality you would have to ignore 99.99% of her character. Asuka is a warning of what happens to those who REFUSE REALITY.

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Anno really failed at making her creepy.

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Make your own opportunities damnit. The only one to blame for being fat, a virgin, a neckbeard, a NEET, or a social outcast is you.

It doesn't retcon it dipshit, it means she came full circle. Just because someone changes their way doesn't mean they pretend their previous autism didn't exist.

Why are you talking about Shinji while referring to Asuka?
Jesus fucking Christ you're beyond help, do everyone a favor and return to your cutesy and braindead threads.

I stopped being insecure and hating myself a while ago and still don't have any friends. I just feel empty.

I often wonder how Yui felt looking at Shinji and Ritsuko after she fully awakened. Were the bandages giving her an accurate expression?

I didn't start making friends until I got to college.

>tfw 23 and lost my last friend to a hamplanet bitch
is there any hope for me to make friends lads?

>it means she came full circle
It doesn't because it never shows how or why she left instrumentality.
You can't just say Asuka represents facing reality when 90% of her character was running away from reality. The show literally punished her for that.

Asuka ran away from reality even more than Shinji did. At least Shinji admitted he was a coward, weak, and selfish to Toji and Kensuke. Asuka couldn't even admit to HERSELF that she was just constantly putting up a front.
Did you ignore her mindrape in episode 22? They spell this out for you.

Neither Asuka nor Rei represent facing reality and you're an idiot to argue otherwise.

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>He fucks asuka
Fucking when?

And he's not a player, he's the protagonist, so the women are thrust at him by the plot, but in case of eva all the women "given" to him have major flaws, and hence the trope of mc surrounded by a harem of cute girls is broken.

The weak should fear the strong

Rei is adorable, but also an ultimate autist.
Asuka is a bipolar bitch who doesn't care.
Misato is a drunk and a slob, but at least she cares.

The only good choice seems to be Hikari.

Also, eva is about self-hate. It's about how Shinji cannot accept that other people could care about him despite desperately wanting people to care, mostly because he was abandoned by hist father, and never really knew the unconditional love of his mother.

Eva is very Freudian. I'd love to see Freuds reaction to watching it.

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Go out to a hangout spot, don't be a total autist, insert yourself into a group of people from your demographic and have fun.

Note: easier with very small groups (3-4 people) or very large (>9) rather than the middle.

Will you make any permanent, lifelong friends like this? Probably not. Will you make a good few acquaintances and drinking buddies? Probably yes.

That's because in college, you can easily find a like minded group of autist who will happily discuss esoteric nerdshit with you. All a PhD means is that you're absolutely obsessed with some subject, after all.

This scene is just so weird. Rei and Gendo are happily chatting to each other about something...and then we never see them talk about anything really ever again, especially not cheerfully.

Like the writers realized they fucked up and that wasn't the dynamic they wanted between them after they finished that episode.

Yes, I'm an idiot for stating the endings of Evangelion.
No no, you're totally right and Asuka remained inside the LCL sea in blissful ignorance instead of choosing pain like Shinji.

Christ. You don't even understand her character.

Did you even read my post?
Also how the fuck can you claim to understand Asuka's character when you ignore the fact that she was running away from reality more than anyone else? That she was engaging in escapism in the last episodes of the show full-on hikikomori style?

Objective.

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Yui briefly possessed Rei and she and Gendo were catching up.

They basically said
>have sex

>She's a fake person
every woman ever. as to be expected.

She wasn't running away from reality more than anyone else and she was stuck to a hospital bed in psychic shock, not engaging in escapism like Shinji with his fucking music player and train rides.

Asuka denies herself, not the world around her. Again, you understood absolutely nothing about her character and the show - zero.

Objective shit for including random characters.

>make friends
what if I do not want friends?

Welcome aboard, fuck social contracts and fuck friends.

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You do want friends. You are a human, an inherently social creature. Unless you are a defect ('psychopath') you necessitate companionship, and you probably aren't - you're just in denial, like those dumb cunts who get rejected by a girl above their paygrade and retroactively decide she was ugly anyway.

>not engaging in escapism
So sitting in Hikari's room all day playing video games, refusing to talk to anyone or go to school isn't escapism? Jesus fucking christ.

>Asuka denies herself
And by denying herself she's denying reality. She's denying her reality as a broken, dependent girl. She's constantly lying to herself that she's the best, that she doesn't need anyone, that she's fine. That IS running away from reality.

Nice projection.

>You can call Q a non-character
Hey, don't insult her. Q is just a version of Rei who had yet to experience anything. All Reis started out just like her, and she already showed some signs of growth and concern for her own identity at the end of 3.0.

Are you from last night?
Plot device.

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Oh, wow, it's almost like Asuka's descent into escapism and trying to run away from the idea of being surpassed is portrayed as a downward spiral, and a negative thing, leading to the culmination of her character arc in EoE, where she finds hope in the Evangelion, and the understanding that she was loved by her mother in the end, allowing her to face the invasion force head on

Exactly, retard.
She represents what happens WHEN YOU ESCAPE REALITY. Now do you understand why you're an idiot for suggesting she somehow represents reality?
And she's rewarded for facing the truth by not jobbing in her Eva for once in the entirety of the show. At least, until the mass production units stop toying with her.

First of all you said the final episodes, I'd appreciate if you used the word final correctly.
And second, I never said she didn't deny reality. I said she denied herself, which takes no effort to figure out that the self is part of one's reality. Main point being that she, again, ultimately accepts reality - all of it - alongside Shinji during the section of EoE called "I need you".

Let's not forget this started with you being an idiot by saying Asuka didn't accept the real. I should've followed the other guy stopped replying the moment you denied the ending of her character and the message behind it.

>Yea Forums: the absolute highest quality, low-maintenance acquaintances that can be relied upon for social stimulation in a comfortable environment.

I love you assholes too.

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>changing goalposts because you got proven wrong
lmao
I said she goes full hikikomori in the last episodes of the show, which she does. Sitting in a room all day talking to no one and just playing video games is as spot on the nose with escapism as you can get.

Just because she ultimately accepts reality doesn't suddenly erase the other 95% of her character, you idiot.
Throughout the show she represented a character that denies and runs away from reality. Thus, she can't be a character that represents reality.
Likewise how Shinji can't be a character that represents self-love just because he learns to love himself at the end of ep 26 despite hating himself the entire show.

Maybe the problem is you and not them

I actually returned to the original points being made and tried to prevent the discussion from derailing any further.
Stop using terms you don't understand.
>lmao
And stop being 12. Thanks.

By the way, google "character development" and "conveying messages". If you want to keep being 12 and a contrarian that tells the world, including Anno, that Asuka does not represent facing harsh reality be my guest but I won't entertain this bullshit any further.

Nice ad homs, but you keep refusing to address any of my points so I'll take this as you conceding.

>that Asuka does not represent facing harsh reality
She doesn't represent it, and I have no doubt in my mind that Anno never intended to represent her as it because she herself refuses to face her own harsh reality.

Evangelion 1.0 + 3.0 (10minutes)
youtube.com/watch?v=0kam7Ublc6U

bro everyone knows evangelion isn't about leaving escapism because 98% of it is escapism :^)

>everyone getting angry at you for simply saying life isn't fair
Well gee if it's so easy why doesn't anybody help this guy out?

Stop being a bitch.

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Nigger is these kids in clusterfuck situations can then you can as well.

based

He was surrounded by women, that was his problem

No shit sherlock. The point is that the vast majority of people that are 'depressed' or 'lonely' only feel that way because they do it to themselves from their way of living and mental outlook. Not EVERYBODY has the capability to basically just nut up, but the message portrayed in NGE is applicable to the vast majority of depressed losers that it targets.

the ones you love mean more than anything

So basically "just stop being sad bro"

The situation is what allowed them to do it. If Misato never arrived to pick him up that day, Shinji would have gone home and lived a sad boring life as a student.

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I think I'll take that life over everything Shinji went through over the series.

If that's all you got out of NGE then I feel sorry for you

kek nigger for real? it's the opposite, Eva's context is such a fucking mess than pretty much anyone in that situation would irredeemably break easily. The plot convenence is meant that was to tell you that even in the most fucked up context you have a self to take care upon and you can't externalize everything, either or Anno just improvised too much

It's not easy but starting is also simple, like lifting heavy weights.

socialization is nothing like lifting weights. they're almost diametrically opposed in how to get into them and how to make progress in them.

The vast majority of eva deals with it not being easy and you're a complete basket case if you're too far gone to see that.

As literally anybody on /fit/ will be able to tell you, being able to benchpress 100kg does not get you a girlfriend.

This x100.

Watching Eva followed by autistically lifting weights changed my life around, more importantly it changed the way I think about myself to a person that deserves my own respect.

Nothing puts your life and self worth into perspective more than training powerlifting and squatting 405 lbs on your back for reps.

Why are you scared of space mom user?

>It's not that easy
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT. IT'S NOT EASY NOR IT'S MEANT TO BE. BUT IT'S WORTH IT IN THE END.

As long as you do it for yourself and not for looking good to others that's fine, otherwise it's just narcissism.

I WANT TO HAVE AN ORGY
AN ORGY WITH ASUKA, REI AND MISATO

>Implying both don't require a great initial effort which will be painful and difficult and may require a few re-dos to get right.
>Implying both don't grow gradually easier over time as you move on from the gross basics to the fine complexities.
>Implying both don't require a measure of discipline to get right.
Seriously user, just add five more pounds, just B.E. Entirely yourself, I believe in you.
It wasn't a literal "if you lift weights you'll get social skills" although that could technically happen, I'm making a broad metaphor about effort. The initial step into physical fitness or social grace is not complicated but it is hard, physically or emotionally. People like Shinji and the 4channel hacker Anonymous spend too much time thinking about all the potential harm and complications further along in the process when to solve their problem they need to focus on taking the first and least complicated step.

Misato will give you and the others her herpes, keep her away.

That's what condoms are for, bro.

Speak for yourself but they're nothing alike.

You do realize that Anno himself was a kimochi warui neckbeard and a virgin loser at the time he was writing this shit?

But turds like
etc will still defend him.

The only good post in the first 10 replies. Look how it fucking triggered these pathetic bugmen who actually think NGE is "deep", "well written" and has "good relationship advice".

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Says the guy who has never seen a condom in real life - because he doesn't need one, and he is too scared to buy one.

Based

Anno was fucking the guy who did utena.

Retarded navel gazing emotionally scarring soul poison.
What the fuck was the point of that piece of shit series?
It didn't enlighten anyone
It didn't enrich society
It wasn't even that good
It had a few good pieces here and there
But everything about the series that was seen as good was him cribbing things from others better media and just throwing a bunch of gobbledygook at the screen

Is this some sort of edit or is it just a scene from the reboot series that I never bothered to watch?

And here we fucking go. Look how this braindead fucking piece of shit who literally CANNOT form opinions of his own immediately goes "beep boop this post hard to understand... everyone on reddit says that Evangelion is mature best anime of all time?? how can someone say otherwise??? I WILL CALL IT BAIT!!".

Listen up, you subhuman soulless piece of shit.

Neon Genesis Evangelion is an overrated mecha shonen turd. It is the SnK of the 90s. The only difference between the two is that NGE is liked for the fanservice, and SnK is popular because of the GCL (Chosenite) propaganda that it is drenched in. Your sub-people pretend that NGE is deep, well written and valid life advice because you need to justify your want to fuck your magic pixie dream girl Misato ("omg she is a whore and she cries when she sucks dick, that means she's deep!") or your sex robot Rei ("omg this girl is so unique, she has no emotions but if you burn your hands she smiles! that's how real women must be like...!") et cetera.

Real human beings are not afraid to admit that Neon Genesis Evangelion is a simple mecha shonen for children (and manchildren), that is only good for some of the well animated mecha fights (so episodes 19 to 26 are worthless trash) and that the only good girl is Asuka - not because she is "deep" but because she is the closest approximation of a teenage girl, and she is sexy, and worth masturbating to.

That's all that there is to this turd.
>spits on you

I'm going to have to agree with the second user, dude.

They're superficially alike in the sense that all human skills are, effort and all that, but socialization is an intrinsically different and unique skill from all others.

It is a skill people start to use from the moment they are capable of talking. It is a skill you continually develop your whole life as you live in society - as you go to school, as you practice hobbies, as you get friends, etc.

What I'm saying is that you can start lifting weights in your 20s and it's gonna be a pain in the ass to start off with, but it's gonna get easier as you go along. (Or so it is for me.)

You can't just start 'socializing' in your 20s for the first time because, if you have the social skills of a 5 y/o or thereabouts, you become a social outcast and you won't be able to even try socializing. (As my middle school self can attest to, though I got better.) So unless you can reliably create situations in which your fuckups won't paint the community's image of you in a negative light for a long time, like moving to a different city every 5 years (that's my life baby), the shittier you are at socializing, the shittier you -become- at socializing.

Sorry for the long rant, I'm half drunk but I hope it made sense.

By far the best post in this thread.

OH SHIT, Redditcucks are gonna have a MELTDOWN if they read this

Better.

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Holy shit based

I can already feel the NPCs responses to this post

I stopped lifting for others a long time ago. I'm competing soon hoping to hit a 1300 total. Lifting is basically just meditation and a time to reflect for me. It's also one of my most important pillars of self worth.

I really hope this is bait because the fact that someone might have earnestly dedicated their time to ranting about this shit to strangers on the internet is really fucking sad desu

Yep, there he goes

Human being.

Subhuman golem who supports kikery.

>Real human beings are not afraid to admit that Neon Genesis Evangelion is a simple mecha shonen for children (and manchildren), that is only good for some of the well animated mecha fights (so episodes 19 to 26 are worthless trash) and that the only good girl is Asuka - not because she is "deep" but because she is the closest approximation of a teenage girl, and she is sexy, and worth masturbating to.

This. Asukachads are the true Alphas of this series.

Oh hey, someone who agrees with me that SnK is overrated garbage.

Reported, bigot :)

Apparently it's new pasta.

Soulless automaton.

Self-aware strand of consciousness.

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NGE NPCs on suicide watch.

A life as a depressed student is 100% preferable to live as an Eva pilot.

>Apparently it's new pasta.
Desperate.
>Soulless automaton.
Double desperate.
>Self-aware strand of consciousness.
Replying to himself from his iPhone (that's what golems like him use).

KEK.

LOOK HOW THIS BUGMAN TRIGGERED BY THE REVEAL OF HIS INHUMANITY CALLS HIS OWN POST "self-aware"

YOU ARE LITERALLY INCAPABLE OF HAVING INNER DIALOGUE

THIS IS A PREREQUISITE FOR LIKING EVA AND THINKING IT IS DEEP, BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT IT'S JUST SOME MASTERFUL REPRESENTATION OF SHINJI'S THOUGHTS AND NOT SOMETHING REAL HUMANS DO EVERY DAY

>Yea Forumsermin / redditor
Classic NGEcuck.

Roasted.

>zoomer humor
ehhhh..

>Why bad man say Eva bad? Mr. Goldbergstein on Anime Reviews dot com tell me Eva good!

>hu hu he he hedgeheg dillema... that's exactly why I still don't have a gf!!! cuz of this weird phenomena called hedgeheg dillema that NGE introduced! I love sanic the hedgeheg btw

kek

Because you have to do it yourself.

You have to make the decision and sacrifices necessary to better yourself, on your own.

shalom

>BUT IT'S WORTH IT IN THE END.
Is it though? Every time Shinji comes out of his shell he gets incredibly hurt, and all the adult characters who are supposed to be the ones showing how worth it is are all incredibly sad individuals. Unless the Rebuilds give a happy end for Shinji, all that has been shown to us is that its not worth in the end after all and instrumentality/escapism was the correct choice.

Christ on a kike, is this shitfest really the alternative to the waifu threads?

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You do realize that kids are still cruel and sadistic fucks even in this day in age, it's just all been transferred over to the internet and social media instead?

But social media is also the same reason why zoomers and under appear "nicer" at face value. Because they value social media as half of their self worth, but social media is also Orwellian in its design to the point where even something as minute as small joke on twitter can be misinterpreted, leak into the real world and damage their reputation there, ruining their lives forever.

>the adult characters who are supposed to be the ones showing how worth it is
none of the adults are supposed to be role models in that sense. in many cases they serve the opposite function

Is it really worth it?
Because the message of Eva seems to be "you gonna suffer, and if you dare to try being happy, you will suffer MORE"

It's literally 1 guy replying to himself and 3~ morons who didn't ignore it.

He's right to an extent though.
All of the pilots expected some form of genuine praise, affection, love or self-worth from their adult figures, only to be eventually ignored, discarded, avoided or manipulated instead.

Yeah but that is the point isnt it? All of these people who "grown-up" and "lived reality" and yet all of them are sad, not a single role model adult with some quality of life is shown, unless you are implying the whole mature cast of Eva is composed of menchild escapism fags then all the shows indicates that "growing-up" and getting out there is literally not worth it.

We dont have single evidence from the show itself that it is worth it.

bad anime generates bad threads
this never happens with HxH or JoJo....go figure

Pathetic perma-losers, grow up already.

Kys kike

i really took the message of this series to heart but it's so hard to accomplish and stick to what i learned

I do love myself but the rest of humanity is filth so the friends are a no go.

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To be fair, it's also just a new way to watch it for people who watched it back then, so it makes it fresh in the mind for those of us who quietly appreciate it as well.

Why would anyone choose the inferior version for a re-watch?

Come on user, you just have to be yourself

Got some more proof, he's even nostalgic for Votoms
otakuusamagazine.com/hideaki-anno-talks-showa-anime-openings/

>I don't want friends though. I've had plenty of them and it's a pain in the ass.
my lord the cringe

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Yea Forums tier thread, go write a self-help book instead of infesting this place you wannabe life coaches

Kek, NGEcucks btfo

It's from a dating sim

Based Dagda mentality like Kratos in GoW 2 & 3

>There are books on tons of different things, doesn't mean anything. Also How To Make Friends And Influence People is a Reddit meme book
It works tough, but I guess you wouldn't be able to try using what's in there since you're a basement dweller

>dude just stop having aspgergers

Thank you for helping me learn where this came from.

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I'm an emotionless doll with no personality and I find this offensive.

The ideal is not comforting, you have it all backwards. The real is what's comforting because you can actually feel it and experience it, it's what most of humanity chooses. Striving for the ideal is hard and a constant strain, constantly reaching up but never grasping it

>Calling out Jews automatically makes you a nazi

Typical no wonder people think your ilk is deranged

Many Muslims radicals hate Jews yet also consider Islam forbids nationalism.

This isn't facebook, speak for yourself. I'm happy just spending time with my family sometimes and posting on Yea Forums. I'm open to friendship but I haven't met anyone worthwhile so far.

Cure to fix depression :

-Go eat something good for you. Cook something, even if you're shit at it. Meat/Vegetables/Rice, anything. Make yourself a decent meal with what you have. No fast food to cut your time. Do this at least once a day.

-Put a snoozer at a fixed hour and go to sleep. If you can't sleep, lie down and read. If you don't have a book, then try and daydream about anime or anything. Just relax. No medication. If you can't fight anxiety, find a fanfiction that you like the premise of. Read.

-Upon waking up, take a shower. Begin really hot and coldify-it as you go. Never go too cold, just cool enough, like a nice swimming pool in summer that you get used to.

-Exercise. Even if you don't run and are a poorfag, use the stairs in your own appartment building, and climb them 10 times for 10 levels. Find yourself something not that heavy (around 10kgs) and powerlift it while being on your back 30 times. Do 5 pushups. Listen to motivational Rocky music while doing so.

-After your session, you should have sweated a little. Take a micro-shower. Rince yourself and wash your hair. Same temperature as above.

-Now go masturbate to the most degenerate porn ever. Edge yourself ONCE then let it go after. Don't daddle, your have 30mns for this.

-Cont.(1/2)

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Shinji tried to use piloting Eva as his sense of purpose and he got utterly fucked. Try paying attention

-Cont (2/2)

-If you have friends, try and talk to them, or organise an outtrip. Like go see a movie, or drink a beer, or play vidya together. If you only have e-friends, play vidya together, or organise a moment when it will happen, even if it is for the day after. Even if you dread the sociality of it. Trust me bro, it's going to be fine.

-If you don't have any friends, Try and find a coop game where communication is important. Something team based. I would advise "Friday The 13th" for good fun. Don't play any real competitive games, just enjoy the fun. You don't have to form long-lasting connections to trick your brain into thinking you're a social creature. Your brain is stupid, but you're not (even if it doesn't make sense).

-After having played with them, try and fix your living place. Clean it, sweep it, and most importantly : EMPTY EVERY SURFACE THAT YOU HAVE. Like Tables, counters, small tables, drawers, desk. Try to have as little shit as possible on them. If you can have nothing (like a empty living table) then great, if you HAVE to have something on it (like a computer screen on your desk) then so be it. Everything else can go in a stack, or in a box. Everything that isn't useful goes in the trashbag.

>And now what do I do ?

Rinse and repeat, user. Try to plan it around your work or your obligations. You don't have to play/speak with people online everyday, but try to follow this simple guide.

Oh ! And I forgot the most important part :

HAVE. MUSIC. IN. THE. BACKGROUND. ALL. THE. TIME. Be it on the computer speakers, on your Tv, on your fucking phone, anything.

Doing sports ? Motivational compilation on Youtube. Cooking ? Jazz and lounge music. Living your everyday life ? Synthwave and Chillwave compilation.

MUSIC CAN AND WILL DETERMINE YOUR MOOD. Your brain is weak enough to be depressed, so it's weak enough to be tricked out of it.

Godspeed user.

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Name a mecha series that has a better message than eva?
You can't

Have fun being a door mat. I've had social issues all my life and was always selfless and kind to others. Spent 37 years like that and all I have to show are boot prints on my back. I've started being self centered ass that lives as secluded as possible. I am happier for it, though I still don't like being an ass.

Rahxephon

>HAVE. MUSIC. IN. THE. BACKGROUND. ALL. THE. TIME.
This is the most NPC thing I've ever heard. Enjoy some fucking silence you idiot.

>I've had plenty of them and it's a pain in the ass
I'm starting to feel the same, most of the friends I've ever had started turning on me the moment I stop acting the way they expect me too

Kill yourself you SUBHUMAN soulless NPC bugman.

Like I didn't even need to see that this is the NGE thread on Yea Forums. If I saw this post somewhere and someone told me that you watched anime, I would instantly know that you think NGE is a deep anime with realistic characters, a deconstruction of the Mecha genre and that you also probably like SnK/MHA/other shonenshit which you call "not the best but great".

DIE

Code Geass

cringe

Eva does not have a message.

Just bee yourself, but maybe bathe and stop being pathetic might help.

nice

>This is the most NPC thing I've ever heard. Enjoy some fucking silence you idiot.
>Kill yourself you SUBHUMAN soulless NPC bugman.
>cringe

Imagine having absolutely no life hygiene at all.
>Pic related

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It is hard if you are stupid.

>This is the most NPC thing I've ever heard. Enjoy some fucking silence you idiot.
>Not having an inner voice and calling others NPC

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>"user... What is this gay shit?"

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What does it mean to "use your inner speech x percent of the time"? What even is "inner speech"? Like, talking to yourself/commenting whatever is happening in your own head? Cause I do that all the time and I thought it was just part of being a lonely loser.

Can you conclude from that data that men are more intelligent than woman?

Actually, that's the opposite.

user, the purpose of fiction is to impart the authors views and experiences to the reader.
Fiction is communication, you cannot be a valuable piece of fiction without preaching in some fashion. Every good book, film anything has something specific to tell you.

Name something and it probably has a point to get across. If there's no point, there is no reason for it exist.

Yeah but all of that is incredibly easy to ignore. You don't have to interact with people online. Leave the neurotic people to rip each other apart in their virtual headspaces. People being more respectful and considerate IRL makes real life a lot more tolerable

Embrace the fourth position

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>gendo's toy

>biggest cunt in the show

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>10 buddies to talk with.
Man, to me that's too much, it sounds exhausting
I'm perfectly happy with one best friend, and his other friends we hang out with for fun stuff. And even him I don't talk to every day, sometimes just once a week. (I'm glad that he has other friends and understands that I like to be alone as much as he likes to talk)

I've never made an online friend either - I've tried to get into communities about things I like, but talking to people, especially without physical social cues to rely on, wears me out too fast and I lose interest

I just wanna gf and/or bf and I'll be set for life. I don't think I'll have the same problem with getting socially drained if I can be with somebody I can get physically affectionate and cozy with, and be 100% myself around

no, that's propaganda
>If there's no point, there is no reason for it exist.
That's your opinion.

>Sora is a virgin hikki NEET with no friends. But throughout the show we see he is vastly intelligent, outgoing, people/street smart, has a good relationship with his sister and a healthy sex drive, and actually makes friends quite easily (in the new world).

NGNL has garbage writing

Media is propaganda.

again, that's your opinion

Holy FUCK the Netflix dub Asuka is absolutely soulless.
I heard the Netflix dub becomes massively inferior to the ADV dub starting at episode 18, but I didn't know it got THIS bad. Christ.

>watching dubs

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I want to bury my head between her thighs

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then explain to me succinctly why fiction exists and what purpose it serves.

voices.com/actors/mckeonst#bio
But she has advertising experience, you are going to buy the things your waifu tells you to right? Besides you probably have acne anyway.

I don't really like the dub much, but I doubt anyone had as much fun with any character as Tiffany did.
youtube.com/watch?v=yzvIn0mdXtY

Get back to making video Gigguk

Who? Don't shill your garbage here.

I wouldn't be a real fan if I didn't watch every available dub and re-sub that was available to me in my language. Only the japs can get away with watching solely the Japanese version and reading the Japanese script.

Absolutely soulless voice actress.

No translation is 100% accurate or perfect, a true fan would just learn Japanese.

Based & redpilled being with a soul.

Cringe & bluepilled bugman NPC from Reddit.

You should like him he got the same shit taste as you

Based

I'm calling the Ritsuko death squads

literally what

Striving for an ideal while acknowledging reality is good too you know.

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NOOOO RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WRONG!
human beings aren't allowed to balance two opposites in themselves don't you know that, choose a(suka) side you fucking incel and have sex

Thanks schizo but most of us don't hear their thoughts as sounds outside their head.

Basically this, are there people that don't have an inner voice? I'm considering anything I rationalize in my head with a dialogue in English an "inner voice", is there something else I'm missing? Not having an internal dialogue is only something I can do with extreme focus, does it just turn off for some people? For the people who only have it 80% of the time, what is going on the other 20%? Are they just not rationalizing anything that's happening? I never fucking understood the npc meme

you can think without subvocalizing, it's far faster and more effective, however it is very difficult to sustain as it also is more scattered, because you lack the focus language offers you.

But how do you do things like imagine conversations in advance and think about what exact phrases you're going to use without subvocalizing?

you cannot

Well obviously I don't vocalise all the time, but if I'm trying to understand something it becomes a conversation in my head. I don't think about cooking or eating or stuff like that as a conversation (again unless I'm thinking about it in a way that requires more understanding, i.e. changing a recipe) however, when I'm doing stuff that doesn't require me to understand it in the form of a conversation, that conversation is still happening in my head, just about something else or some part of my life. Or, were you describing something else?

>You really gonna fuck your great times infinity grandma?
This is a trick question, isn't it?

I think it's mostly luck.

So all you got out of the show is deciding which female character is best. Doing the exact same thing you criticize others of doing. Not actually explaining why the show does not have a message.

Brainlet

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user, the existence of artistic mediums is not predicated on your finding them useful. Not a single one of them.

user, I am asking why media exist, why are you trying to tie this into my personal opinion on the purpose of media?
Just answer the question and tell me the purpose of media.

Or rather try to define the term in a way that is sufficiently general.

If the kids don't come out retarded i am.

>love themselves
That's laughable. I'm fucking disgusting. I probably can fool other people for the short time, but I know better.

Stop masterbating

>thread full on symbolism and psychology
>retard claims eva is trash but doesn't even explain why and instead resorts to projecting
based retard

Do you Kaworu lovers not realize what homosexuality is? You really think penis in butts is a healthy thing?

Women are STD-ridden whores and vaginas are disgusting, even the Greeks admitted homo relations were the purest form of love.

Do you not recognize that Kaworu's love is pure and innocent?

>Women are STD-ridden whores
Ironic
I see it that way. What I refuse to see is a sexual aspect which is anything but pure and innocent.

How dare you, 4channel is a progressive and advertiser-friendly website. If you don't let a faggot fuck your preteen son and shoot him up with meth you're a homophobic bigot.

TheHuman Salvation Project was just the version of Instrumentality controlled by Ritsuko. in which she wished Gendo got cucked and was happy with the result.

I'm gonna sexualize Kaworu and there's nothing you can do about it, gaylord.

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Should I just make a /pol/ thread linking directly here or do you want to keep pretending like this?

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So basically this user thinks characters can not change

>responding to a post from more than 24 hours ago
That's gonna be a yikes from me.

>Just answer the question
The question is retarded. They exist. Whatever post-facto rationalization for why I put forth isn't going to change that, nor is changing your mind. It's irrelevant. Your opinion does not matter. A roadside pebble isn't going to up and walk away if I fail to justify its existence to you, nor is any form of art. Again, their existence is not predicated on your finding them useful. The world does not revolve around you. It does not exist for your benefit. Things don't just suddenly poof out of existence as soon as your dumb ass fails to see a use for them.

people don't, characters do whatever you put on paper

To all my depressed niggas go out and travel. On your own. Interact with locals, meet fellow tourists, go see the sights etc. You'll meet people and have fun. I'm aware this is only an option for NEETs with money and at least barebones social skills, but if you fit those criteria, go explore the world.

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And? That's the least of my problems.

this, also cheap hookers

I sincerely hope you niggers are joking when you say you need relationships.

Bad idea

>someone can barely stand living while comfortable
>hey why don't you go out and pile all kinds of discomfort on top of your mental suffering lmao
>also do something that requires effort and determination and planning when you don't even have the energy/motivation to do basic things
Appropriate that you posted the meme normalfag girl, I hope you're baiting

Nothing is going to solve your lack of determination but yourself. Once you can get past that anons advice is perfectly valid.

abloo bloo bloo
you clearly have the energy to shit this place up with your pity party blogposting, so save us the bother and take a long step down from a stool if everything is oh so bad

I wasn't talking about "depressed" as in "needs actual professional help and/or drugs to function". I was talking about the typical 20-something virgin nerd we all are who is kind of awkward around people and tends to wallow in self-pity. Again, I'm aware you need money, time and barebones social skills to travel and if you don't have those my advice is moot. But if you do, knock yourself out.

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>travel. On your own
Worst idea ever. You might meet and strike up some conversations during the day, but odds are you will not see the same person for more than a few hours before never seeing them again and you will be completely alone in your downtime and travel time.

>opportunities presented
An anime girl isn't going to come rescue you, go outside

>meme normalfag girl
F is everything but normal, user

Thinking it over, Shinji's Father is actually the ideal role model for a man.
His only failure, is that he fails to tell Shinji that being emotional makes him identical to a feckless neurotic woman, and that real men do not carry their emotions around like a purse, and reveal their weaknesses whenever they can so they can pawn it off for emotional support.

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No one blames you for being mentally incapable of overcoming adversity. Everyone will blame you if you fail to own up to it and improve, even if you fail subconciously.

So your piece of masturbatory "advice" is aimed at a very specific hypothetical no one which you didn't even care to specify on top of being fucking retarded. Fuck yourself you selfish cretin.

>You might meet and strike up some conversations during the day, but odds are you will not see the same person for more than a few hours before never seeing them again
That's when you exchange contact details and/or decide a place to meet at the same time tomorrow. Met some dudes from a neighboring country in a bathhouse in Tokyo. I struck up a conversation because we were literally the only non-asian dudes. Turned out we were all massive weebs and ended up doing lots of cool shit together, still in contact with them. Chances are, whichever country and activity you pick already pre-selects people with similar interests as yours.

>you will be completely alone in your downtime and travel time
This is normal and should be expected. Make a gigantic list of things to do beforehand so you aren't dependent on meeting people to have fun. I had a fuckhuge excel sheet with restaurants, museums, sights, attractions etc. to do and see in Tokyo before I went.

I'm sure you had very high expectations.

Hey, don't blame me for the inflationary use of the word "depressed" in 2019. Every motherfucker feeling slightly blue because no gf is referring to themselves as such nowadays. If you're genuinely depressed, I don't know what you're going through, but have you tried professional help/medication?

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please don't post that anime, the ending made me depressed

How did you come to a conclusion like that?

I used to suffer from actual depression, I'm speaking out on part of my "depressed niggas" who don't even have the energy to respond to your egregious self-centered nonsense. Just because braindead normalfags misuse the term doesn't make it okay to do it, stop contributing to the vulgarization of language.

Nice gatekeeping dude

What an american post

Gendo was neurotic as heck deep down. Also, thats not manly, thats psychopathic.

psychopathy is just extreme manliness

Those people are autistic and complaining about Khara correcting mistranslations that ADV pulled out of their asses in the first place. The only substantive downside to the Netflix translation is the lack of subs for some of the intertitles. The original ADV dub was cancer and better left forgotten.

Not really, the new subs are really inconsistent.
Misato calls Kaji 'Ryoji' in the subs for episodes 8-14 then switches to Kaji even though she always calls him Kaji in Japanese.

>How come to conclusion
Reflect upon your own life user.
Do women really want an emotionally available man like they say? Or would they actually resent you if they came up to you only to find an emotional wreck.
All the women in NGE gravitate towards stable, emotionless men, to rely upon.

>American
Im a leaf.

>Gendo == Neurotic
Never saw it, and no he wasn't. A neurotic can't keep it together.

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a fugging leaf

>Im a leaf.
there a difference?

No, Gendo is mega-autistic, he completely lacks the capacity to communicate with (and thus be a father figure to) his son, that's a failure for any normal man. With a few choice words and a conversation or two he could easily have made Shinji into a much more capable pilot and much more stable human being.

That is exactly what I just said.
The only difference, is that you want Gendo to hug and teach shinji how to simulaneously cry and breakdance inside the evangelion and release his gay emotions to get better synthesis and to defeat the gay angels.

In reality, he should have just told shinji that carrying around your emotions, is like carrying around your purse, with your lipstick, and eyeshadow, and your diary full of deep emotional thoughts like how they submissive girl once felt sorry for you and smiled condescendingly.

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french, then, ain't no one gonna make sense of that gobbledygook

This is not true at all
>t. emotionally unavailable

Does your boyfriend like it when you are emotionally available?
Does he like sucking your migro benis when you are emotional?

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But she comes back around in EoE. Not only does she choose to fight the group of Evas but she leaves Instrumentality.

And thinking about it now, she rematerializes with a cast on her arm, too. Maybe symbolic of her willingness to confront her past traumas.

>me big strong man me no feel
>feel gay me no gay me strooong
You don't sound like an adult at all, but you should figure it out when you get older

evangelion is overrated trash

Do you have a girlfriend?

Do you?

No.
Do you have a girlfriend?

I've struggled with relationships in the past when it comes to actually connecting and expressing my interest
I'm working on that now though so ill get there

Im sure you will.
Don't go for the big gay emotion thing though.
Every time ive done that, I can literally watch the attraction seep out of her face, as she deflates like a punctured tire.
Gendo is the way to act around women. Your the boss. Nothing phases you. You are a bundle of mystery.
You are alpha af.

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Real question here.

What is the reason some people think Rei isn't at least on some front a representation of escapism. I'm not going to repeat ever argument in this thread and I'd like to think I understand her character quite well. She is very one note and idealized for the protagonist that she basically feels like clay you can mold into whatever shape you want (as long as you are the protagonist whom she orbits). The important word here being 'for the protagonist', aka the self-insert for the people Anno was trying to talk to.

Rei is LITERALLY a god and the mother of all humans. A close to perfect being. She is also a messenger in Instrumentality, leading humans into the escapist orgy that it is by breaking down their AT Fields and bringing them into it. Even if you disagree with people about her personality and characterization, or lack thereof depending on which side of the fence you sit on, she is a symbol that is present in so many instances regarding Instrumentality that you cannot ignore it.

On top of this, having Lillith's soul, she is basically the 'mother' of all mankind, hence the dialogue for why she pilots the Eva being 'the bond she shares with all mankind.' At that point wouldn't Rei basically symbolize a return to womb or return to mother and never being able to leave adolescence behind as at the first sign of pain or fear you run to back to your mother (Rei) for compassion and acceptance?

I'm kind of a brainlet so I'm open to being called out on dumb shit.

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he's american, the poor thing, just give up on it

You are imagining a false dichotomy between being completely emotionless and carrying heavy emotional baggage ready to drop at an instant
Neither are healthy at all but there is a balance to be found
Me too bud

Only retards fail to make the connection.

>eurofag talking shit

I don't even give a fuck about the argument you're having. I just wanted to call you a faggot and hope you enjoy getting sodomized by Muhammad while I doggy style your mother and shoot lead downrange with the boys.

>balance
>you know, gotta balance everything for some reason
>can't be too heterosexual.
>need to have some gay,
>need to have some lady,
>need to have some young boy dressed as girl
>balance user, balance
>don't have all std
>just a balance
Do you have a girlfriend user?

Yes, yes, you're very special, we know. But in between your daydreaming about gay arab sex, americans being loudmouthed, posturing little bitches who can never shut up about themselves is not talking shit, it's a basic observation that you're doing a very good job of living up to.

She rejects Gendo and represents the hope that people can understand each other.
I don't think she herself represents escapism, she initiates instrumentality as lilith but it's not like she's completely for it or against it.

Just stop being depressed moron

You really typed all this out just because i used the word balance? When the balance i was taking about had nothing to do with what you're saying
Look, to put it in NGE terms, the best male role model is not gendo whatsoever, its kaji
also as much as i hate when anons try diagnosing each other to win arguments, your constant mention and sharp opposition to all things feminine, and instantly associating it with being gay or a sissy, it just really sticks out as some kind of projection

Fascism was based on the principles of marxism.

No it wasn't. Fascism was a counterreaction to Marxism. It's authoritarian capitalism on steroids.

God, reading all the arguments about depression ITT is like watching episodes 25 & 26 all over again. Except much worse.

National (((Socialism))) The state still controls all, you're just too dumb to see they're two sides of the same coin.

Gimme a minute while I find the quote from Hitler about how National Socialism isn't actually socialism.

"Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."

>We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party
From the Führer himself.

>Kaji
Yeah Kaji was good, but he was weak, and made whores out of women, when he was supposed to be guiding them on the proper way to live and act.

>your constant mention and sharp opposition to all things feminine, and instantly associating it with being gay or a sissy, it just really sticks out as some kind of projection
You are probably the reason why traps keep making it into my anime.

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Give all power and influence to the state because it's patriotic not because you're doing it for your fellow man. The end result is still the same. Also, believing Hitler's Aryan propaganda. Nigga, it's bullshit.

>National socialism isn't socialism
It was, just replace the Bourgeoisie with Jews.

This really isn't the right board for me to explain in detail how wrong you are. Have you tried reading a book or two?

I know my history, I think you're just retarded.

Ok, but I think YOU'RE retarded! How about that?

other way around, bud

Okay. Doesn't make you any more right.

I'm pretty sure that controlling prices, raising taxes and having a very controlled market is socialism. Fuck off retard.

>Have you tried reading a book or two?
TIK did a video on this recently actually.
Have you seen it?
TIK reads 80 hours a week, if that counts.

No, it makes me left.
So the US is socialist?

Oh, I also make audiobooks for a living...
Check out my latest channel on Military Vehicles.
youtube.com/channel/UCZzMk3q8-cmyen0knReqGKA/videos

When it wants to be, of course. This is also the kind of absolutely retarded comparison between very different countries and economies that only a /pol/nigger could conjure.
Stay on your containment board.

Be libertard
Angels Attack
Have to rely on pic related

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>FrogCast
The US has NEVER been socialist. You're an idiot if you think that. Neither are any of the social democratic countries in Europe. "High taxes" do not equal socialism.

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Don't conveniently ignore the rest of my point you intellectually dishonest cunt.
You know damn well how hard nazi Germany controlled it's prices, be it food or houses, and subsidized certain parts of the population plus inflation of the public work sphere - all financed by ridiculous taxes. You also know damn well how hard it was to trade with nazi Germany after they had the brilliant idea of abandoning the dollar as a common currency and went back to trading goods directly with african and south american shitholes. This is socialism, this is the garbage happening at shitholes like NK and VZ. Period.

Now fuck off back to your cunt board, dumb nigger.

Spear of Longinus at the ready

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Socialism is a matter of degree.
During the Great Depression, such was caused by the socialist policies put forth by FDR and his ilk.

The farther you get away from the state trying to socialize you, the more economic prosperity your country tends to have.