The duality of loli

The duality of loli

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I don't see it. Renge is for sexual too.

dualolity :D

Nasty. But also an erection.

>do a loli
ok

Why are 2D anime children so legally erotic?

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based

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Based on what?

structure and interpretation, can't you read?

Is this that baby princess ova? This scene gave me a huge boner.

Interested in what?

So, is Renge back from getting free candies?

this was alright

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How dare you compare a pure, sweet, innocent renge to those goddam candy harlots. Shes too good for this world.

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Fuck, sex with Renge would be amazing.

Shoujo Ramune is the most overrated anime ever made.

user, Renge is a little girl.

thats what makes it amazing

What could be said about the durability of loli?

>that flatness

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Mary Jane is the KyoAnus of hentai. Love their production.

Renge > Thots

I need more of those crossover things.

Right is heterosexuality. Left is for homosexuality. The majority of girls go right.

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Nope. Those 3 on the right aren't familiar at all. Never seen them before.

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Why is she so smug?

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I'm gonna say it

Keep walking Renge. Don't let tgem corrupt you!

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Gonna watch it now,its like Shoujo ramune?

Tags?

What is /l/ watching this season?

Everything with lolis like always

lolis are my favorite flavor

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You know I always fucking wondered why it's almost impossible to find porn above the country's age of consent without it being at least 18 like it's some magic required number when really only a few states in America has that legal requirement
Even in h-games they always have to say that all the characters are 18 or older

It's probably related to the fact that the age of legal prostitution is always at least 18.

What about consensual sex without prostitution being filmed and distributed?

Funny thing is that for the purposes of criminal law, such proclamation shouldn't be enough. At least where I live but I can only imagine that many other countries have similiar rules. Here, child porn is defined as a pornography displaying not only children (any person

It was the only h loli anime made after a long time after Garden-something ended.

>but also any person who appears to be a child
Australia? My condolences.

those poor wankers can't even legally jerk it to 2D loli drawings and together with the bongs can't order loli sexdols. I would rather live in somalia than a loli-hating old-hag haven as those shitholes. I think Canada's the same, but not sure.

I believe porn of flat chested women in general is technically illegal in Australia since those more recent laws
Which is especially weird considering how many Asians live there

Maybe her butt hurts

Canada is definitely the same.

>fromwhat.png

entirity of yurop (atleast the union) aswell
it's kinda fucked up since most have age of consent at 14~16, and some kids are really underdeveloped at that point (say, for instance, France, from 50 frogs I met aged 14 to 15 all of them looked like hebes and paedes, jesus one guy looked like he was 7 when he was 14)
I'll have to look into oil painting and whatever since artistic purpouses are exempt from this law

Central Europe. I imagine that whole of Europe is the same.
This has nothing to do with the age of consent (which is 15 here, by the way). It's about a creation, distribution and other use of child pornography. Those are two separate things. Like, you can legally fuck a 15 y/o if she consented but it's not okay to make a video, photos nor any other record of the act. That would be child pornography, unless every actor is really over the age of 18 AND doesn't appear to be a child.

my point is it's fucked up that you can fuck what looks like a kid but can't jerk it to lewd 2D drawings of what looks like kid (or kids)

Aren't little girls inherently hetero and fuckable? Still don't get it.

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>I would rather live in somalia than a loli-hating old-hag haven as those shitholes.

I'm so glad my third world shithole doesn't give a fuck about fictional children. Feels good when a loli ero figure arrives at my door.

>I imagine that whole of Europe is the same.
Loli is legal in most of Europe (not the UK obviously) and its grey area in the US so I really doubt that.

Oh I see. I actually wonder how a 2D loli would be seen at a court of law. It's not like this country's Criminal Code is completely clear on this subject and there is no relevant national case law that I know of. Decent arguments could be found for either option, I guess. Don't know about European case law.

>illegail in UK
>Illegal in EU
that leaves Bosnia, Serbia, Albania and Russia where it's seen as highly [and couple other literal who countries] degenerate and even if it is somehow legal there the judge will make an exception because "prevention lol"

Paying for physical is still retarded as fuck

UK, Germany, and most recently Netherlands has banned loli (this took down the loli haven ATF which is still down until this second). Italy has the law written down but never enforced. Europe is not fully safe.

You have anything to back that statement up? I can only barely understand written German and absolutely can't into French so there is now way for me to check relevant laws. It's just that these things are usually harmonized, especially in the EU.

I checked for my country (Croatia) and probably probably got blacklisted and can confirm that any depiction of minors (which clearly includes loli) is illegal for pornographic use (whilst artistic purpouses are seen as "okay", sketchy but it checks out unless you jokingly commented how you'll kidnap lolitas from neighbouring village when you were 15 yo retard)
>tl:dr;
I can only hope for solidary confinement

>UK, Germany, and most recently Netherlands

How can some of the "most developed" countries in the world be so damn retarded as to ban fictional children?

buyfags.moe/Country_specific_information
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors
Isn't sadpanda hosted in the Netherlands? Both of these links say it should be fine there and I've never heard of anything happen out of there.

Never mind, I had no idea ATF actually went down. I thought the Netherlands were safe.

>Despicting minors
That would the 90% of anime,manga and doujins and these are still produced and distributed to this day everyday in all the seasons,i don't know like this works,but i don't think that anime would be banned

>Netherlands has banned loli
thats nonsense, the servers were down for other reasons, loli is still legal in the Netherlands
you shouldnt believe memespouting niggers without checking a source user, it makes you even more retarded

Thats because its legal in the netherlands, the HH guys even admitted it had nothing to do with laws but a small discord group was spouting "new laws" last year and when asked for source they had nothing.
check for facts, theres lots of falseflagging niggers here

because international law for pornography

my waifu IS a loli!

They totally ruined the Tiny Evil OVAs, made the girls into titty monsters

>As of September 1, 2018, the Dutch criminal law punishes "anyone who spreads, sells, openly exhibits, manufactures, imports, transports, exports, acquires, possesses, or accesses by means of an automated system or using a communication service an image (or data carrier containing an image) depicting sexual conduct, in which someone knowingly under the age of 18, is involved (or appears to be involved)" with a prison sentence of up to 4 years or a fine in the fifth category (up to €82.000).
I dunno, seems believable to me.

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Gay lolis are the best.

INTRODUCING

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>buyfags.moe/Country_specific_information
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Entry on Spain on that wikipedia page mentions some EU law that makes every hyper realistic depiction of children illegal, no matter that it is only 2D. If said EU law is a regulation, not just a directive, this alone should make realistic loli illegal everywhere in the EU because it applies everywhere with precedence to national laws, although criminal law might be exempted from this if I remember correctly. I'm not sure and I'm not gonna look for it. Then there are many cases where loli only "appears" to be legal or is in the "grey area" (France, Poland). Even the buyfag entry on Germany, which flatly states that loli is legal, seems to draw this conclusion only from the section 184b of the German Criminal Code. Not that I would ever draw any serious legal conclusions from a fucking google translate of a text but I ran that one through Google translate anyway. It should state that
>Penalties of between three months and five years are used to punish who ... a child pornography, which represents an actual happening,
which could fit a 2d loli, if I read it right? Then there is the whole issue of how you define the term "child" under German criminal law and so on, so forth. Believe me when I say that it's not that simple. Find me an actual case law or at least some professional literature that discusses this topic in a serious, scientific way, not some wikipedia article written by an anonymous person. Otherwise you might be very unpleasantly surprised when you end up in a slammer and labeled as a pedophile for the rest of your life because your heartfelt
>B-but your honor, wikipedia said lolifucking hentai is fine!
was not accepted.

What are Juju's thoughts on the subject at hand?

tfw luks

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>Find me an actual case law or at least some professional literature
I dont think I've heard or read of any besides someone convicted in the UK, that one swedish manga translator getting off fine and swiss police giving melonpan all his loli doujins back.
I don't live in the EU, and I don't know how much EU laws overwrite specific country laws.
I'm well aware of the laws and cases in the US to the point I'm not really worried about bringing back a loli haul from comiket.

Just move to Portugal, there aren’t even police.

fellow /g/entooman

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fuck off

>google
>linux
Those NSA backdoors sure are going to keep you safe. You should have followed that blowfish when you had the chance.

Show me a single case of this happening in court though

>depicting sexual conduct, in which someone knowingly under the age of 18, is involved (or appears to be involved)"
so not drawings. This is an extension of the previous law that also only applied to 3D, this mainly targets the possesion aspect.
in '08 drawn porn was deemed nowhere near realistic enough to be considered a crime. Stop being retarded.

its more likely that they either didnt bother to do proper research into their servers and just banned them or that HH is making shit up and has something to hide, perhaps CP was spread through their servers but they dont want to admit it

The FISC proceedings are secret, they have leaked documents about evidence laundering but nothing about the actual genesis of evidence that should have been secure by such encryption. All we know is that a lot of money was given from the NSA to certain cypher developers so unless it's Bruce or djb I wouldn't trust it.

>... an image (or data carrier containing an image)...
You forgot that part. Images obviously include drawings.
Although I'm quite sure that you meant it in another way, that is whether this "someone under the age of 18" means strictly a natural person under the age of 18, or it can also include a fictional person (this drawing of yours) who is under age of 18. I don't think it's that simple to answer this one.

USA is the same, look at Florida

The only pinning term in the whole paragraph there is "someone". If "someone" means any character yes, if it means any living person then 2d is only illegal if it is based on a real person. As it doesn't say "a person" or "a character" it is ambiguous. However as the original law was ruled in a court to only apply to real persons the precedent likely carries over.

You don't understand how laws are written.
They are as clear as possible to leave nothing up to interpretation so nobody can use misinterpretations as a defense.

This law in particular is an extension of the law before it, a law that only applies to 3D. There is no way this law then somehow covers drawings without specifically being mentioned to do so. They'd have to write an entirely new extension for that or a redefinition. Neither happened.
HH fucked up one way or another but not because of dutch law, besides if that was the case (even though it clearly states it isnt) then we'd see all severs bail on the Netherlands.

Youre just trying to push an agenda because you get upset over drawings and you need to get a hobby ASAP

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>Purity to Depravity

>They are as clear as possible to leave nothing up to interpretation so nobody can use misinterpretations as a defense.

LOL wtf are you on? it's totally the contrary

>the same derail as always

Well that's exactly what I meant and if a court ruled that, I'm fine with it. Could you provide a link to the decision or at least some data which I can feed to the google in order to find it? I'm mighty interested in the reasoning.

Different user, I'm and I've imported tons of loli already. I just bring this stuff up because I want to know its status in other countries.

> an image (or data carrier containing an image) depicting sexual conduct, in which someone knowingly under the age of 18, is involved (or appears to be involved)

100% sure the justice system can claim this implies to drawings too, its debatable and ambiguous, so in the worst case scenario its a grey zone that the judge decides, you are fucked.

Up to state law, and you'd be suprised, hell half the US has varying legality on beastiality ffs.

>You don't understand how laws are written. They are as clear as possible to leave nothing up to interpretation so nobody can use misinterpretations as a defense.
Mate, there is a saying that goes like this
>There are 100 lawyers and 101 legal opinions.
If laws were completely clear in every possible situation, I wouldn't have a job.

In america youd be fucked. Judges fall in to two categories here. Cuckservative war loving boomers or liberal activists. Both of these wouldnt hesitate to throw lolicons in prison.

I thought "liberals" were very tolerant towards pedos.

You do realize that judges go by their state law right? Loli is legal in my state just so you know that's a thing.

There have been 0 known cases in Florida related to loli and there aren't even any state laws on the matter, just the federal 1466A obscenity one.

A judge did decide in 2008, and it was deemed that there is a difference between 2D and 3D.
Hypothetically, if you could create a drawing so realistic its photorealistic then you could be fucked, but a stylized loli drawing is never going to pass that.
This is on wikipedia.

Thats because the US system is different. In the Netherlands if one judge rules X then all cases after that can refer to the previous case and because one deserves equal treatment they will receive equal punishment. Ie because that man in 2008 got set free nobody even bothered to prosecute for loli doujins again since its a guaranteed failure. Only if they make a new law that specifically talks about drawings being illegal are they going to attempt it again.

Another example was a couple of years ago when they made it mandatory to own registration at all times. Some guy found a loophole in the law that made it so the government had to pay for his registration the and he took it to court. Judge ruled in his favour, which meant everybody could get their paper for free. They fixed that loophole as fast as possible.

Laws can be played with if you add enough indirection to anything. This is why age disclaimers are important.

Federally, Loli is legal unless a specific work is declared obscene on a case by case basis (they will only bring up obscenity if the state is after you to begin with, or you have sought the wrath of your local soccer mom). It literally depends on the state. Like Oregon for example is a safe haven for loli (obscenity laws are nullified there) which is why you have Fakku basing themselves in that state.

>which is why you have Fakku basing themselves in that state
Too bad the safe haven ended up not mattering since printing companies still refuse to print any loli material there.
Fuck you Jewcob I want my panda uploads back.

>this thread

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Also the Philippines. Republic Act no. 9775

Flip here, shits hardly ever enforced. I imported figmas just fine.

Some of the most anti-lolicon and anti-pedo people I've seen irl or on the internet have been "liberals"

Is it even enforced? Can't say I don't have a loli daki or two and I've seen a lot at conventions

And for me they were more toward the right
Granted I live in Texas

I remember I came to to Yea Forums initially to castigate the pedos I heard were here.

>printing companies
Literally just their own hatred for loli. The decision not to print loli was one entirely out of spite by jewcob himself. They have only ever wanted to be copyright trolls and never intended to do anything serious with all the licenses they hold ransom. Harmony Gold is doing more good will work than Fakku with their dragon's hoard.

>obscenity laws are nullified there)
Really?

Only the very leftist "LGBT includes pedophilia" types. Most are just virtue signaling authoritarians. Where the opposite believe more that pedos should meet street justice instead of the actual law.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_v._Henry

>equal treatment
As far as EU goes, this principle does indeed apply but only where circumstances are also equal, and even then the case law of the supreme instance might be subject to a change. This doesn't breach the foregoing principle if the change is well argued. It happens here sometimes. So all it takes is a willing prosecution to take the case all the way to the Supreme Court and a will of the Supreme Court to change the current precedent. Therefore unless the law flat-out states that a depiction of a fictional child in a sexual situation is not considered a child pornography, I wouldn't be making definite conclusions. Unless I had good connection at higher courts.

Give the usual shitposters any chance and this is what happens. Note the amount of loli images that have been posted since .

Unconstitutional there and legalized in Vermont by the legislature. But most obscenity laws would not cover loli, importantly Delaware's wouldn't which is where Yea Forums and most other companies are based.

>castigate
How so? Do you regret your foolish ways?

So, you spent too much time with lolicons you became one yourself?

Something tells me the loli stash on Gelbooru could be in real danger.

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122 replies, only 1 webm. It's not even a good one. Since when did Yea Forums go to such shit. Next thing we know, this is going to be a board where only dubs are discussed. You disgust me Yea Forums

This was obvious back when they just got rid of it entirely to appease their Google overlords. Just go to Sankaku Complex.

>Right
Soul

>Left
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Sorry but no deal.

At least you CAN see it, unlike Gel "sorry but we decided this content is too spicy for you on your behalf, have some hags" booru.

Did you even read the thread? Shit got derailed pretty fast.

EXACTLY!

not really though if you look every case where some one is prosecuted for CP the loli was only an excuse to investigate they were convicted because they always had some real CP as well. 2D is completely protected, every time they tried to apply the obscenity clause to 2D it was shot down.

having faith in Gelbooru isnt smart in the first place
Their staff has always been incompetent

Some character galleries are entirely filled with garbage and you have to fight for your right to upload respected japanese artists work if its something they dont like

Theyre probably in it for the money so say bye to loli soon

Yeah

>Shit got derailed pretty fast.
Even if fags are arguing among themselves it doesn't stop other people posting on-topic stuff around it.
I just quickly scrolled past most of it without bothering to check what shit they're on about.

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>there will never be a Military! season 2
>there will never be a Hentai! season 2
At least we have swimsuit lolis and mascot abuse.

>Retards still argue that 2D loli is like getting people into liking children
>2D lolis are highly sexual and do lewd stuff
>Children are NOT and completely innocent

It's really annoying when in 2019, people still don't get it

There was a huge flashing sign saying that change was temporary when it happened so I'm not going to think ids habbiding until something else actually happens. Making throwaway accounts is easy enough anyway.

>people stop talking about this shit
>"i know, i'll bring it up again"

It’s scary that people feel so strongly about child porn laws that didn’t exist 40 years ago.

On top of that Gelbooru only became usable again recently after they got rid of the 3DPD ads. Maybe hiding loli behind a "here's how you unhide loli" sign has to do with their host or ad service or whatever.

40 years ago most porn was considered bad, it wasnt until literal jews beat irish catholics in court that porn became a freedom thing and accepted like it is now.

>if its something they dont like
But that's danbooru. I'd rather have complete chaos and needing to swim through shit to find something decent (just like on pixiv) than only being allowed to see things that please a small group of circlejerkers.

The candy shop owner helped her rape her friend.
Also she’s the best Ramune

>until literal jews beat irish catholics in court that porn became a freedom thing
Wat

The candy shop owner in both of the anime in the OP has raped all the lolis from their show that are in the OP.

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How hard is it to open up a candy shop in the Japanese countryside?

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Yes and furthermore having sex with lolis is the only way to be hetero, having sex with grown women is literally gay.

I found it pretty wholesome and heartwarming. Lolis are for monogamous relationships not faceless old men.

This but unironically

Can you speak Japanese?

>gibbeku kunni loli-kun
Hows that

Sushi tempura wasabi sake onions katana batoru. I know enough to get by.

I at least learned the useful term 手こき from a thread a few weeks ago.

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onions
onions sauce
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Is it replacing s.o.y. with onions?

Lurk forever newfag

子供のまんこをお願いします

What is this fucking fetish called, I cannot find it anywhere

I’ve seen similar but only with period blood not coffee.

the japs probably have a name for it try reverse searching it

Maybe something along the lines of "panty coffee filter" or "panty filter"? Not too sure myself.

Sankaku Complex has exactly three images tagged with "pouring_through_panties"

日本語できないのはアイロニカルロリコンぐらいじゃ

>じゃ
Get outta here bba

In Latin America women do this with tea as a "witchcraft" to their boyfriends, husbands or guys they have a crush on to tie them up or. I'm not even joking.

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