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Vinland Saga
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lucky Thorfinn
Wait, that's a girl? Nice.
>vinland saga
>viking series
>japanese exclusive honorifics all over the dialogue
why are jap writers so damn bad at writing? their language functions just fine without honorific shit. It's all purely because of japanese societal mannerism.
Does he play with her tits when she's asleep?
>caring about minor issues
Get over it.
60 IQ post
They speak Japanese so obviously they use honorifics, just like in English you speak differently when talking to a peasant or a king
Did vikings really do this? Seems stupid.
Yes, go ahead and fap to her
Is episode 4 coming out next week or in three weeks?
three weeks.
I fear the day Canute appears in the anime, these threads will turn to trash for sure.
That's too bad.
Ashelaado's voice is not deep enough. shit seiyuu.
>obligatory trap
why do japs do this?
God I wish that was me.
That's no ordinary trap. That right there is an ADVANCED TRAP
Better that than forcing stronk womyn into everything.
>lindybeige
cringe
She should have been the protagonist, prove me wrong.
respect wamen, user
Wake me when the rightful king of Britannia returns
Will they reach Farmland? It starts at around volume 8ish and the first three episodes covered up to vol 2.
>viking-sama
>mister viking
Immersion ruined
They'll definitely reach the part when Thorfinn and Einar vow to go to Vinland together. After that point, the manga went to shit anyway, so it's great that it will end there.
It's basically certain that it will end at chapter 54
Most likely not. Askleadd's final moments seems like the perfect place to end. Farmland arc isn't exactly short either, it's like 50 chapters last I remember.
he is (or will be) based though
At least they aren't greeting each other by bowing
45
We never saw that priest after Canute took over
Isn't it 24 episodes? The first cour will be the prologue and the second one will cover Farmland. The anime will probably end with Thorfinn visiting home and then setting sail for his journey. I seriously doubt they need 24 episodes to cover the prologue.
Willibald is based, I hope he joins the Vinland expedition
Yeah it's 24. I can see them getting to the farm too.
Anyone remember what manga chapter Thorfinn comes back home ?
24 for the prologue would be perfect
holy shit that was one of the best first episodes i saw in a long time
Chapter 100
I feel like that'd be stretching it a bit much.
There's anime-original stuff and they didn't adapt the first chapters yet. The pacing will probably get slower after the flashback. I really doubt we're getting farmland
A bishounen is not a trap. Learn the difference, newfag.
Hmm maybe they could tease it at the end or something.
Sure, they often do that. Unless they never plan to do season 2
Canute isn't a trap, he just has a very feminine appearance. He grows out of it after puberty hits him and is on his way to look like a proper king after the time skip.
this kills the trapfag
is it Canute, Cnut or Knut or something else?
Yes
Best character and best boy of 2019 coming through
Its cee more nutts
Is it fun in Valhalla?
i hope WIT dropping snk rumor is true so we can get high budget farmer arc season 2 next year
How can a single man be so based?
I miss him I MISS HIM SO MUCH
Ari impregnated her 3 times already
Thanks user, I really like when his sister remembers the shape of his skull.
What the hell is wrong with you
lucky man
Spin off would be great.
qtpie
Farm arc is my favorite part.
Pretty sure she has a spin off manga, thought it's a goofy parody manga and not serious in the slightest. I don't think it's ever been scanned though.
Indeed, she's way out of his league.
Oh good for him I figured she'd get murdered or something.
Based KING ARTHUR
That qtpie could kick grown up Thorfinns ass.
Not even kidding.
>tentacle rape on the cover
Sasuga
Thorfinn becomes the king of Vinland.
I felt bad for that qt that Ari ignored
>massive anachronism in first fifteen minutes
I've never felt my enthusiasm for a show evaporate so quickly. How fucking hard is it to look up when CPR was invented?
did you see the other dopes in the village? Ari was the best she could have chosen
Didn't Cnut make a pilgrimage to Rome IRL? That would be pretty based to put in the manga, show me Rome and Constantinople
he already "proposed" to Ylva
Do you know how many times things have been invented and forgotten in the course of human history?
>pressing hands on people's chest didn't exist until recently
was there some kind of force field preventing hands from touching chests? Did scientists figure out how to circumvent this unseen force?
Why would she want Ari in the first place? I'd rather go for that big guy.
Something like life-saving medical knowledge isn't one of those things, user. Let alone the underlying knowledge of the pulmonary system that would be required to invent the technique in the first place. Compression-only CPR was invented in the mid 20th century. Are you seriously going to tell me that it's even remotely plausible that some dumb fuck Viking in the year 1000 discovered it, and then nobody else knew about it for another 1000 years? It's an anachronism, and it's a really fucking bad one.
>Thorfinn and Einar vow to go to Vinland together.
Kino ending.
he was a popular cool guy in the village and is the only one of the guys his age that got into a real "fight" getting revenge for his brother
Thors has 200 IQ
>person isn't breathing
>hey, let's try pushing on his chest a bunch of times
Nobody did it because it wasn't intuitive. Artificial respiration dates back to around the 17th century, but the idea of chest compression came much later, and understanding how it related to the pulmonary system came even later than that. We've had fucking automobiles longer than we've had compression-only CPR.
Now that, I believe.
Goddamn Halfdan was ruthless. Why is Siggy such a goofball in comparison? The only things he seem to have gotten from his father are his looks and his skill with a chain.
I stopped reading at this part and when they fought the ax guy on the bridge because I got bored. Does it pick up afterwords?
"Beat on chest to restart heart" seems like something people could have discovered independently.
Halfdan is just tsundere
Easier life I guess.
thats the point where Halfdan is a hardass who commands respect/fear from everyone he meets Siggy cant and instead has a loyal group of friends that follow him because they are his friends even when noone else would. (also siggy is just alot kinder of a person in general)
seeing tsun Halfdan in the latest chap was funny
People don't have to understand how a thing works to implement it. The Romans fucked a naturally contraceptive herb to extinction, do you think they understood how it worked? No, they just tried it and over the course of many many years correlated cause and effect.
i think assuming people didn't know about it just because we don't have a record of it is retarded
I usually hate when Japanese try and set their stuff in places and eras they basically know nothing about, but for some reason this one is, so far, working out pretty well. They're all still just blond Japanese people dressed like pre-Renaissance Nordics, but at least they're trying to get names and places right.
That'll happen at the same time Christ returns, since neither of them existed in the first place.
>Huddling with Ylva for warmth.
baby don't hurt me
Hope this guy shows up later on again.
Satan allowed it.
Monkeys have literally figured out how to resuscitate each other after being electrically shocked by power cables or train rails through pounding on the torso and immersing the victim in water.
Monkeys.
Really? That seems like pretty fast pacing
>freckles
HNNNNGH
icelandic dude here i can tell you guys the voice acting is great but the sub people are shit at catching what the people are called
The manga was published in WEEKLY shounen magazine, before it went to monthly afternoon. the anime will end at the end of prologue (chapter 54-55) for sure. I'm re-reading it right now. It's pretty long and farm arc is just as long as the prologue.
And now I realized that we've wasted 36 fucking weeks on the fucking baltic war arc
Is the arc actually over now? I want Spearfag to die already.
>36 fucking weeks
I'M SORRY I MADE A MISTAKE
36 fucking MONTHS
I think it's over now and we're now at filler Sigurd's sub-arc. it's tough following this manga after farmland.
Grikkland soon right guys?
I doubt he's leaving the farm unless he wants to come to Vinland, but it's hinted that he's a former member of the Varangian guard so we might get some backstory in Greece
So I'm assuming it went monthly before the end of the prologue right? So that means the chapters will be double length, so I guess the pacing makes sense when you think about it
I find the use of honorifics to be a quick and effective way of revealing character interactions and relationships via example rather than info-dumping that's unparalleled in most other languages, so I'm willing to suspend disbelief ever so slightly to allow that high-level narrative technique to remain
I want to protect his smile.
Farmland was a great arc. Everything after is hit or miss depending on what character are on the pages.
>20 days
how many days until threads die out
are they doing this for both cours? 3 episodes with 3 weeks between is retarded and they should stick with 1 episode a week
Much better than I expected especially after the PVs and of course WIT being behind it. The only negative is that the music is really weak from the shitty OP/ED to the disappointing OST in general, you would think they would have point as much effort into the sound like they did with the art. I don't really have much to save especially since this portion of the story isn't all that interesting probably because this was back when it was a shounen manga before the transfer but I was pleasantly surprised with these episodes.
>point
*put
No, they'll have normal one ep per week schedule after the break
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I just hope that this adaptation keep the nudity from the manga.
but that's not thorkell
Yeah there is absolutely nothing more obnoxious than when anims makes people that are explicitly white fucking bow. Especially in far future sci-fi settings
Thorkell is fun but there is not much debt to his character.
True, this was before usury was commonplace in Europe so he probably has no debts and he can just live his life normally
23? WHAT THE FUCK?
You are absolutely retarded if you think Icelanders didn't know what to do when someone is freezing/drowning
Culture changes with time
I'm only 20 and I can grow a beard like that. You gotta have the genes user
I could see English characters in those bowing, but not Japanese style quick duck bowing. I remember being weirded out by characters bowing in Hellsing even when it was part of that shows so-called "humor"
Man I forgot how slow and boring the beginning is.
There is like 3-4 volumes of pure masterpiece and the rest is either mediocre or garbage
Does Harald 'the madlad' Hadrada appear in this?
þetta eru flottir þættir, helvítis útlendingarnir hérna skilja þetta ekki
That also happens later in the series.
Not if it ends where people want it to end.
source
not because i dont believe you, i'm honestly interested in how someone got to figure that one out
chapter 55 is the end of the prologue, you expect them to do 55 chapters in one cour?
it will reach that and not a single chapter of farmland.
this reveal was very fun to read
Stronk womyn were always a thing in Norse society and folklore.
he’s a speedreader who forgot that a lot can happen in 50 chapters
I don't think he should even be born yet.
That's normal women. Stronk womyn are the garbage that you see in Hollywood entertainment, where having a vagina is more important than making them into a character.
based satan
>I don't think it's ever been scanned though.
>vinland saga spin off
>not scanned
was it hard to get or do the japs not give a shit?
>fujos will ship Thorfinn/Canute while Thorfinn and Einar have the superior broship
Japan just really REALLY loves mushrooms.
requesting this snow is moe. I never saved all of it
That shroom just makes you sick
>Thorfinn/Canute
I don't think many will care unless they're desperate to force some faggotry. Thorfinn has much more interesting relationships with other characters. Canute is all about daddy issues and having other vikings look at him weirdly.
I read somewhere that if you dry them long enough, you can trip with them without the nausea.
That fucked up father-son love-hate relationship between Askeladd and Thorfinn still gets to me. There's so many goddamn layers to it.
Askeladd would sacrifice Thorfinn in a heartbeat to accomplish his goals yet there's a real love he feels for him and a vulnerability he shows that no one else gets.
Was this scene really necessary?
Necessary for my dick
Roman architecture has design elements in common with modern cloaking tech. The same formation that bends light waves around a very small object is able to bend the larger waves produced by an earthquake around a large structure. While its highly unlikely the romans actually understood any of that, they were around for more than long enough to notice that building built a certain way, survived earthquakes when everything around them did not.
Even with modern science there’s a whole host of observed phenomena as yet lacking an explanation for how they occur. Quite a few scientific discoveries were also simply a matter of scientifically proving and providing a more in depth explanation for folk knowledge.
Stop.
Go on.
Only 3 more weeks until episode 4!
Should've watched 1 ep every week instead of binging. Shit.
In just 3 episodes, Vinland Saga did a much better Game of Thrones than Game of Thrones in its entire 8 seasons.
I had a beard like that when I was 21.
Fuck off with your "Any series with an ancient Europe theme is like Game of Thrones" bullshit.
Where's the lie?
s1-s4 and s5-s8 should be considered two separate series. The drop in quality once D&D run out of book material is so noticeable.
S1 was great,cmon user.
Don't mind me, posting best girl.
yo Berserk Abridged already used that joke
FBI yes that's the guy.
I did't notice any Japanesr-ifing in the manga. I dont remember it haveing sama or kun etc.
Also when is the next chapter coming out? Am kinda hyped now that this awful arc is done.
Will anime onlys even like farmland saga? It should end right there. It tied the story perfectly. But no the author had to mess with the tone because he wanted his younger son to enjoy it or some dumb shit.
does leif or ari die
Not a mangafag but I've heard Leif Erikson's expedition to North America hasn't even happened in the manga yet, so he's at least not dead yet.
There's no way they can finish the prologue in 12 eps, especially considering the pacing so far.
you read the manga untranslated?
Knut is in the original language
>I find the use of honorifics to be a quick and effective way of revealing character interactions and relationships
but it doesnt compare to old norse bynames thats usually a very clear cut way to define who that person is
nordicnames.de
but when it comes to gradual social ranks for example in the family or among friends then yes id say its almost non existent and japanese does a way better job
so, Throfinn wants to go to canada, the land of free of war and slavery.
Let's say he managed to reach Vinland, then what? he'd still have to deal with the natives and previous settlers that are probably warring and enslaving each other just like literally everyone back then.
How is he going to colonize and make a settlement there? If he's just going to make peace with the natives and make a peaceful settlement in a small part of Vinland, then he might as well stay in Iceland. The neighborhood are still doing barbaric things anyway. Absolutely nothing would change.
Living without war around you is impossible without powerful deterrent like a nuke just like in our present days.
He'll genocide the natives.
That will only happen 500~ years later
>MC dualwileds fucking daggers
what a joke
Big deal. One guy duel wields Dane axes
The natives seemed peaceful enough, that is until the norsemen gave them milk as a gift. Since nobody knew about lactose intolerance in those days, the indians thought the norse tried to poison them and attacked. But yeah in the long run the natives would probably get pissy. Even without incidents like that.
daggers as a main weapon is subhuman choice.
thats the only downside as for now
I've never even watched that trash
I've just finished re-reading everything until the latest chapter
I've managed to pinpoint where the manga went shit. it's Chapter 125 (Baltic Sea War 1) where this stupid bitch shouted Thorfinn's name aloud, so the vikings noticed him and he got dragged into this whole pointless affair.
If not for Gudrid, we would've been in an actual Grikkland saga now, scamming stupid greeks for unicorn horns instead of wasting 3 years for Baltic Sea War:part THIRTY SIX
FUCK BITCHES
It's all Gudrid's fault and they should've killed Hild too instead of letting her tag along with the party.
Don't talk shit about Gudrid you fucking homosexual.
His hopes and dreams of peace will be mercilessly dashed out
>implying the superior ship isn't Thorfinn/Askeladd
give me my fucking /ss/ doujins NOW
Askeladd belongs to Bjorn in Valhalla
I've only read up to Farmland Saga but how bad are the later arcs?
Gudrid is cute and had no way of knowing
You mean Haraldr Bluetooth?
gays belong on a cross
>it's actually really fucking good
Haven't had feels like that in anime since Guardian of the Spirit, gonna probably read the manga now
>still has long as hell eyelashes
Remove the beard and it's a drug addict ho.
>while Thorfinn was fighting mere men on land Ylva was already taking down Krakens underwater
>Ylfa impregnated him three times already
FTFY
I love how the mangaka made Sweyn look so disgusting and ugly. It's a cliche, but it's nice to go against someone who's that fucking gross.
I think you mean Askeladd/The crown of Britain
It's not fair Berserkbros....
This is aimed at Japanese, not retarded burgers.
Does Miura just not care of his adaptations? How did shit like this get approved? Why couldn't we get WIT?
I will, thanks.
Not a Berserkfag but i know the feel.
>JoJo has sub-par animation throughout the series
>DP's new anime already looks amazing
WTF are you talking about DP's job with JoJo has been good. At the very least it can be called decent while Berserk was garbage.
>folklore
Yes
>Society
I hope you don't mean warriors because there isn't a single example of women fighting as "vikings" only in desperate situations where the village got attacked.
I'm less bothered about the CPR itself and more about the fact that he did it to someone that was freezing to death.
You don't want to get the cold blood from the limbs into the torso, that'll just give the poor fellow a heart attack.
>looks like man
>dresses like a man
>talks like a man
>wants to fuck his little brother
He knows anything less than 7 YEARS HAND DRAWN will get shit on for not living up to his life's work so he lets the dregs of animation go about their business.
Or he's old and tired of this being his legacy. Past the point of caring further than the next chapter to fund his other interests. Those loli games are expensive you know.
>looks like man
Good at some points, yet utterly awful at others.
Sure it's not that bad overall, but after seeing EP 1 of Fire Force I can't help but feel like there was some neglect.
>filename
Isn't Fire Force kind of obscure even in Japan? And it's a 4-cour series, so they really need to wow the audience if they want people to keep up with it for a whole year.
You are just greedy.
She's a cute boy
Jojo has been suffering from mediocre animation and still shots here and there, but stylistically David has been absolutely perfect for it. They truly get the feeling of the series.
You're dumb. Honorifics are there for a reason. Its to distinguish a relationship between people. Its not just the Japanese, its everywhere in the world. You are only noticing the issue with Japanese because you watch too much anime and think Japanese is too special of a language. The reality is, almost every society/language has/had honorifics. The reason why western people don't use it often in casual speak is because vulgar/commoner speech is the norm now. With it, common decency is thrown out. Its a very recent phenomena too, if you didn't realize it. Go back ~60 years ago and we have casual use of honorifics in English as well.
user 60 years ago to people here may as well have been back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Right, people have a warped sense of reality and assume what is true has been true for eternity. This is a problem of low IQ. People who cannot normalize their estimates/conclusions.
Just because she has the bigger dick between her and Thorfinn doesn't mean she has no girl.
What is the appeal of the anime supposed to be?
It it solely the viking aesthetics?
*is no girl
She probably already had plenty of girls.
It's a good story.
Actually, it's the opposite. In English only the formal forms of address are still used.
Thou, thee thine, etc. were the informal ones.
>JOMMUSENSHI
Hahaha what the fuck
>we want the Skyrim audience
It means warriors of Jom. Dunno why they translated it as Jomsvikings here.
The comedy
Why is everyone in the village so gay?
Canute boipussy doujins now
Fireforce is 1 episode, they've frontloaded the animation. When they're in weekly crunch like now the quality will dip
>gay
That's a big oar
Askeladd
youtu.be
Im starting to like OP song.
It's just shounenshit in a different environment.
The first episode already had so many mistakes that no history enthusiast would watch it.
they are nordcuck what did you expect
>shounenshit
It's currently serialized in a seinen magazine.
>seinen
That's basically shounen for manchildren in denial.
Can't wait until the cutest girl gets animated.
Thats what they are.
Yes, but that's not what he said.
Not glorious enough, 3/10
There are so many girls in it that are cuter it is actually amazing.
I like the shouting
>he didnt say butt, he said ass!
Ur complaint in nutshell
Is this more than silly vikingwank?
is it true that the protagonist is pacifist cuck?
I don’t think they’re gonna adapt that far
so he becomes a pacifist later and stay that way?
The weak should fear the strong
Thorfinn's sister is a 10/10 would fuck and love and marry
you're fucking dull
But I'm not wrong
Did you not hear "You have no enemy"?
that's basically the theme of the series
Vinland Saga is a bit of a weird beast. It started out somewhat shounenshitty, I won't deny it, but then gradually ditched a lot of the shounen elements for a more grounded approach, becoming almost a slow burn at times. Farmland Saga is absolute kino and fighting takes a backseat there, ultimately doesn't even resolve the conflict. You sometimes get the feeling that the mangaka might have liked to tell more of a historically accurate tale, more of a Viking slice of life, but couldn't possibly sell it to his editor, so he takes the tried and tested shounen approach so he can get his vision published at all, especially in the beginning.
>I dont remember it haveing sama or kun etc.
Maybe because the translators weren't retarded and translated honorifics?
The moral dilemmas of a pacifist living in a warrior society.
No, he just tries to avoid conflict, but will defend his or his friends lifees if necessary. So no, he won't become a pacifist.
>The reason why western people don't use it often in casual speak is because vulgar/commoner speech is the norm now
Don't confuse english with real languages.
Pretty much every other language in the western world still differentiates between polite and informal ways of addressing people.
Shouldn't have gotten rid of thou
He just wants not to fight, but will not just die if attacked. He's not a pacifist.
I get that feeling too. You get the sense he's totally in his element in Farmland. The way he expresses the emotional peaks of things like clearing land and managing to rip stumps out of the ground is pretty incredible. It made me appreciate just how fucking great humanity is that most of our species time on earth has been spent farming. Because that shit is hard.
Aspiring pacifist then.
If pacifist means not doing anything when someone tries to stab you then there aren't many of those
> t. ari
that's what it literally is.
That's just your confirmation bias for your headcanon. The relationship in Thorfinn's fictional background completely ties into the various arcs, including your beloved Farmland Saga. The entire point is to show how Thorfinn deals with problems differently as he grows up but ultimately in the grand scheme of things never ever succeeds and always takes the wrong choice for the big picture. All he does is favor the little people and short sighted idealized goals, and he slowly learns step by step that even his trivial desire is in fact, impossibly difficult to obtain with whatever method he decides to use, whether it's trying to kill Askeladd as a boy, trying to solve problems without violence, or trying to create a utopia at Vinland. It's all escapism for Thorfinn because the moment Thors died Thorfinn was never whole again. All his actions are a form of escapism which is why every time he grows he confronts his issues, just that he ends up deciding upon a totally impractical resolution which leads him and those around him to more misery. But on the other hand, because he's not calculative, because he's wholehearted, because he's sincere and wants to do things right every step of the way he ends up jumping through hoops to the reader's entertainment while never actually getting the best results he was aiming for.
Thorfinn is very much the son of Thors, both are escapists who tried/tries to run away from reality whenever possible despite being the greatest warriors of their era and having the minds capable of changing the entire game board of Europe, because for all that they are capable, they are simply too pure and seek to escape the burden that Canute shoulders, the burden that distorted Sven into the monster that he is, the burden that turned Askeladd into the drifting viking that he himself loathes. And so Thorfinn will take a life time to learn what Canute did in one arc and see how he missed the train on his death bed.
>history enthusiast
yes this is not a thread for limp-dicked armchair historians, you're correct
>limp-dicked armchair historians
Age does that to you.
King Kanootti had a helping hand from God, so not really fair.
It works since he eventually becomes bare handed figther
1015–1066
Thorfinn in the manga was given that chance all the same. He met Canute, he befriended Canute, his lineage is peerless, and he's essentially the Martial God of Northern Europe at this time. If he had the balls to take Canute's hand the North Sea Empire would have flourished well beyond Canute's generation because the most important aspect of a monarchy is maintaining a steady successor line and that requires the ruler to have the leeway to raise their heir properly instead of simply letting his vassals and subjects and wives do it for him. Having Thorfinn around would be an enormous spiritual pillar and even if all Thorfinn did was tutor Canute's heir it would have impacted Europe in magnitudes greater than his silly adventures to Vinland.
But naturally that's the entire point Yukimura is making. He's giving Thorfinn that golden chance that any metafag would understand at a glance, but for Thorfinn the son of Thors, why would he take the route Askeladd did when he can take the route of his father? Again, he's a daddy's boy, and his obsession with comparing with his father is what leads him to making mistake after mistake after mistake in the grand picture, all of which stems from Thor's own mistake of escaping and not teaching his son properly when he had the time cause he was too busy enjoying his newfound freedom and busy being a simple parent instead of the missing Jomsviking Troll of legend. It's a cliche show of how the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and is a typical Japanese story of how even so, at least the little people around the MC remember him as a good man and takes a positive spin on the situation despite all the failures.
Like how many stories have a hero end up giving everything up just to live a simple life, most of those stories never explain how in exchange for that simple life the giant shit heap the hero leaves ends up fucking everyone else, until sometimes it comes back to bite the hero in the ass.
Meh he still beats the shit out if people while also telling them how slow or shit they are, he just stopped killing.
Why did Floki want to kill Thors?
Jealously
tl;dr lol
Your loss.
I like Hild
I read them, pretty good posts user
1. Thors is a deserter
2. His own ambitions
Not seeing jealousy as reason enough.
Which is the better and more accurate series about vikings?
go fuck yourself
Generic J-pop music to advertise some shitty band.
Couldn't they make something closer to the theme?
Politics. Thors was destined to become the jomsviking commander before he went missing
Finally an anime with accurate hair color.
You mean chieftain. Thors was already one of the 4 Jomsviking commanders along with Thorkell.
He's just a bishie with a beard.
I thought they were captains and the chieftain was also referred to as a commander. Maybe depends on translation
>he doesn't know
Thanks, I just really enjoy Yukimura's bittersweet teasing. It's something I rarely see in historical series. Usually a historical character would have more justification for why they didn't take the 'better' path, but with Thorfinn Yukimura was just damn brutal and basically slaps the reader with 'because this boy still hasn't grown up enough yet now enjoy the ride on the pain train after this SoL intermission'.
Sounds fair enough, but the point stands that Vinland Saga isn't just "shounenshit in denial" and we can assume that the shounen elements are mostly present to sell the series to his editor, as evidenced by the fact that they are strongest in the very beginning. Because what you outline in your posts is not the typical moral nor formula of your generic shounenshit fare. If it was, Thorfinn would use his awesome fighting prowess and the power of friendship to not only reach Vinland but actually turn it into his personal utopia, with many a boss fight against superhuman evildoers on the way towards it.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH ELDEN RING
>wit joined the maruyama mafia
when did this happen?
Did I have to watch an entire episode just to learn "slavery is bad kids"
disappointed in the voice for Askeladd, I expected his voice to be lower and more gruff tone.
that would imply you didn´t know slavery is bad
I think Madara voice is fine, he's supposed to be sly and sarcastic
>but the point stands that Vinland Saga isn't just "shounenshit in denial"
Oh, I never argued against that. I was just saying the first arc is indeed very relevant, shonen elements and all. There is little to no waste in Yukimura's story telling as far as I can tell, they all serve a purpose even if trivial, so I just can't say it's forced.
Personally I've always seen it as seinen. Just because it has murderhobo action scenes shouldn't categorize it as shonenshit, otherwise Berserk would never be hailed as greatly as it did considering it makes Vinland Saga look tame.
As for whether they used action to hook readers in, that's naturally a yes even though I absolutely think it's not the main reason but obviously no good writer would only plan around one reason for each of their moves. It is however, simply necessary because the violence and trauma is what sets off Thorfinn's development, and how he becomes obsessed with Thors always trying to surpass this idolized version of his father in his heart when he honestly never really understood his father. Without that first arc the impact of Farmland Saga and subsequent arcs would pale in comparison because we wouldn't have that gruesome foundation to establish upon itself.
Even if we take say, Historie which is relatively tame in action, it all starts with bloodshed when shit hits the fan, and it is that start with Thrax, the revelation of Eumenes' real mother, etc etc, that creates the Eumenes we see currently that's cold, calculative, but still has a bit of heart unwilling to cut all ties even when he's being pulled into dangerous shit, which I suspect will eventually be the reason why he ends up historically dead if Iwaaki is still alive by then.
Things get probably a lot more flexible with when you introduce the violence and bloodshed in a story if you don't go the tragic hero route.
TL;DR something something early childhood impressions are very important yada yada.
Unironically the anime, as long as you forgive things like the writer not knowing the definition of jarl.
It's a society where slavery is the norm.
That's just translation issues user.
Episodes are about characters, not moral of the week.
where did they teach slavery is bad?
Look at that dood's head lmao. I hope christcucks get BTFO in this series.
sorry mate, it's paganggang
But it's not? Only Thors was against it, even his own daughter wanted to get some slaves. She didn't even care when the slave died, she only caed because they wasted livestock on a worthless slave who died like five minutes after Thors bought him.
Thou is the informal one.
Fucking Thors. EIGHT sheep for a dying slave. My inner jew is crying
More Thorfinn acting like Askeladd when?
Yea Forumsskeladd is my captain.
Just wait until Garm is back with more fighting
No. It's an old historical myth, like knights needing cranes to get on their horses, that persists despite a lack of evidence and several things that indicate it wasn't the case.
See also the idea that berserkers foamed at the mouth and bit their shields.
Given all the recent isekai where slavery is just the means to build your harem, I think we japan needs the reminder.
There is literally nothing wrong with slavery, stop whining.
Tell me your address, I'm coming to enslave you
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waifu
>mommy ylva will never get animated
Too bad.
Thorkell has catchy laugh youtube.com
So where do you people think the anime will end? I say chapter 99-100 would be perfect I think it fits.
Right before it becomes Farmland Saga
Isn't that Black Beard?
I thought I recognized that voice and laugh.
It's gonna end at the end of the prologue. If they were really going to adapt farmland then they wouldn't be doing anime original stuff because they wouldn't have any time for it
They were in charge of the home and money.
So nothing has changed.
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BIG OAR ENERGY
Yeha nvm I just rechecked and some chapters are way longer than the 20 pages we have nowadays. 4 chapters per episode would be a bit too much.
That's uvo
Norsemen
At least Seasons 1-4 were pretty good of Game Of Thrones. Vinland Saga goes to dogshit after Farmland.
>Vinland Saga goes to dogshit after Farmland.
I swear Farmland Saga is one of the greatest pleb filters of all time. Bunch of edgy shonentards going "waaaaah where's my edgy main character and cool fights?" is always hilarious to watch.
>Constantinople
It's called Istanbul.
why is she so perfect?
This is why I stockpile weapons.
He said AFTER Farmland aka 36 months of Baltic Sea fun.
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I love Askeladd's VA.
vikings are white skinned niggers
Because thats the language its in brainlet. Wait for the english dub if you want it to sound "better"
News flash, different countries talk differently
That's Slavs
t. vikang
>Wait for the english dub if you want it to sound "better"
Anyone who is dumb enough to think an English d*b would get the pronunciations of norse names correct is fucking delusional. Hell, dubfags will be lucky if they don't get a forced meme accent for everyone like in Skyrim. Then again dubfags are so fucking retarded they'd probably prefer that.
Baltic sea war is the second pleb filter. When we make it to Vinland only true warriors will be left reading
Based pure thorfin, even Hild knew what she was talking about gift
Are all peasant girls sluts or is this autistic manlet just that sexy?
>Are all girls sluts
yes
Why can't they just pick some nordic metal band? Why Japan refuses to collab internationally in general?
>good loking man rescues you from slavery bare handed while also treating you like a human being, gets you a boat and some provisions so you and the others could escape.
he s a good man.
Pretty sure Thorfinn is supposed to be somewhat attractive in addition to being too nice for his own good. That combination has slaves and peasant bitches drooling for him.
Yikes. Nothing in this series comes close to seasons 1-4 of GoT.
They still had book material after s4. They just ignored it.
tfw no thorfinn bf
>3 weeks
>3 FUCKING weeks
Yes. They were using it to start hallucinations and go berserk
Just be Gudrid.
truly the berserk of anime
only the last 12000 years
The last kingdom
America literally doesn't matter regarding this. You're completely irrelevant, this is for japanese people.
>can't wait to rob some civilian dudes and a kid
>let me eat this mushroom real quick to go on a berserk trip
Does she get raped and pillaged? Is that why teen thorfinn is an edgelord in the future from what I gather from the OP?
Will they be able to sleep together when Thorfinn screams in his sleep?
Yes,by me.
nope, just his dad dies because of him
Siggybros...
They know that Thors is the real deal
no, she gets to live a life without her brother and dad with her mom
Yikes.
>It's called Istanbul.
>Not Tsargrad or Miklagard
Open a map and look it up.
its fine he has his bros atleast
Cute. But Thorfinn's sister is cuter.
God, I want a girl like Ylva.
>God, I want a girl like Ylva.
Who doesn't?
If Ylva was born today she would be a thot sending nudes to strangers on Tinder
Even as a MILF Ylva is cute.
uhhh
white boys
>Open a map and look it up.
?
Then it wouldn't be Ylva. Ylva is a cute, honest, hardworking girl.
Top scandinavian genes.
>pacifist
>run away from battle fields
>doesn't own slaves
>hypocrite
why does everyone love him again
Varengian guard arc when?
She only works hard because she doesn't have slaves like you
He is a handsome manly man, no homo
Because even tho' he's all that he can still rip you in half with his bare hands.
Nobody loved him except his son and wife. Even his own daughter was annoyed by his antics. On the other hand pretty much everybody respected him because he was a one man army. Kind of like people respect Thorkell despite him being a battle hungry lunatic, just on a higher level.
What do you mean? There always were Cancutefags
I'm one of them
Shit this make me want to play ck2 again.
Wait so their endgame is to get to America?
Doesnt that end in failure?
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It's the fact he's absolutely based, can kill almost everyone on his own but renounced killing and everything bad to literally be a family man and live a peaceful life. That he made for himself without anything inherently evil entwined with it and to be fair he's the only one capable of running away from the battlefield cause no nigger wants to fight him cause they'll get slaughtered.
She's also the strongest if the spin-off is canon.
>VA: Ono Kensho
Based.
Aww shit hes talking about Murrica right? Hope nobody tells him
Best boys
their goal is to grow crops
It was only a failure because the natives were lactose intolerant from the food traded to them by the Vikings and went full unga bunga thinking they cursed them, originally they succesfully befriended each others.
Though you are ultimately right
Being a pacifist doesn't mean that you can't defend yourself. It just means that you don't believe that things should be settled with violence if there is a peaceful way to resolve things. A pacifist will not become a soldier, but he won't just allow his family to be slaughtered if there is no other way.
You can already see replies where people only view things from Thors' pov and give no shits to the people he abandons just to run away from his problems. He's literally the pleb filter because he hits all the notes for moralfags who can only see 3 inches in front of them.
It would be unbelievably awesome if Harald Hardrada showed up in the manga
England was the first to discover America, not Norway.
Wait, am I retarded and mixing up two expediction? I admit I just woke up
Pretty sure it was cavemen eskimos
>people his abandons
>get a moral compass
>not abandoning murderers and rapists who pillage innocent people when you just started a family of your own
Yeah nice pleb filter.
Name one person he abandons. Thorkell doesn't count because he's insane
She's his sister
Maybe you're thinking of when Roald Amundsen dabbed on a*glos
Were slavers already there?
Actually it was Irish monks but okay.
Pretty sure it was whoever those cavemen eskimos killed when they arrived there
Canada actually
They didn't have a country, England was already a country when they started colonization, so Eskimoes don't count.
And where did those monks live? England.
But Spain got to north America before England
native american here
you know we exist
I think Leif was the first to actually go ashore and not just spot it from a distance
Is this why north america speaks english today?
>when midlife crisis hits just right
Facts vs "I leik bwitton"
>where did those monks live?
What does that matter they were Irish not English.
stop larping paco
>Pretty good looking
>Battle scarred
>Can take down the elite Jomsvikings with his bare fucking hand
>Merciful enough to only injure them
>Put his own life in danger to save other
>Didn't hesitate to take and protect an infant under his wings when everyone else thought it'd bring nothing but misery upon them
>Pretty good natured and gentle
Of course he's a pussy magnet.
It can actually kill you if you eat the whole body.
I wish Askeladd lived in my head rent free.
Actually you speak germanized french, America belongs to France.
Technically Greenland is part of North America, but Leif was the first on the continent. Greenland was colonized by his father
You lost the war bro. Also there are no natives in america, people arrived there from asia.
Point taken, they still went there in the name of the english crown. So when I wrote England I obviously included all the people employed by them.
Canada had slaves
>Also there are no natives in america
*blocks your path*
>allows murderhobos to increase the amount of murderhoboing thanks to the huge vacuum left in your wake
>allows Thorkell to fight against the Jomsviking meaning more prolonged war for the continent
>allows Floki to gain power and kill you and cause your son to lose his way for the rest of his life becoming a loser who achieves nothing because he chases after your useless ass
>allows your family to be abandoned because your short term 'family time' somehow surpasses just reigning in a bunch of murderhobos
>allows Floki and Vagn to split the Jomsvikings for the seat of chieftain and the only reason the Jomsvikings don't end up going around pillaging and warring again is because your son finally manned up and fixed the shit heap you left him
It is indeed a nice pleb filter. You are just as trash as Thors is, all talk no walk. Even if you were isekai'd in Thor's place you'd end up a useless little shit who dies achieving nothing but fucking a woman a few times, oh wait I guess that's magnitudes greater than your current life no wonder you idolize him.
Did you forget his wife's family? Do you think the Jomsvikings became more docile after he left?
>Thorfinn, did I ever tell you about Bjorn? He was a good friend
It's from Tibet.
Leif went to america before the story of thorfinn starts
Honestly, a family drama about Erik the Red, Leif, his brother and his crazy sister would be kino
Why would he care about his wife's family? He couldn't really affect Jomsviking actions until becoming the boss
>She only works hard because she doesn't have slaves like you
So she would be a girl-gamer today?
she would be my wife and we would have children
Harald is little more than a toddler at this point, same as Robert Guiscard, which is a crying shame.
We're probably going to see the Russians getting Jesus during the journey to Miklagard and Thorfinn getting into some Varangian shenanigans.
>strong
>tall
>thick eyebrows
>blue eyes
>luscious blonde hair
>healthy and can bear multiple children
What's not to love? Ari is lucky she never set foot off of Iceland otherwise she'd have far more eligible men from all over trying to maker her their wife.
And praytell who should we wank to?
The british?
No he still kicks shitters shit in, but he's just tired of war and bloodshed.
The character hasn't changed at all except for changing eternal manlet rage to "This is literally not my problem".
me on the bottom left
Bros, should I move to Iceland to get myself an Ylva?
Thorfinn still fights, he simply stop being a fucking psychopath is all.
He have no qualms punching the shit out of some shitter's teeth in if he can't talk them out of their shittery.
That and if you love spaceships
Modern day Icelandic girls are some of the biggest sluts in existence.
I wish my HDD didn't died user, because then I could show you that webm of that /fit/ nordic cutie flexing.
But honestly, Iceland is a generally pretty damn nice place to live in, your biggest obstacle will be learning the language.
>It just means that you don't believe that things should be settled with violence if there is a peaceful way to resolve things
That's not a pacifist that's a moderate. A pacifist literally does not believe in voilence. A pacifist says that violence will never solve anything, a moderate will tell you that in times of peace, prepare for war, a militarist will simply agree and say peace is merely the recovery time for both sides to build up their forces to the other twos disgust.
You have more chances of getting an ewe.
What are some of the wrong choices he makes in Farmland, and could you point out some more? Would it be like how the situation with Arneis and Gardar turned out ?
Harald is in Kieven Rus from the age 16 to 18 as a captain of an army. That would be about 1030. I'm not entirely sure what year we're supposed to be in in the manga though
All whites are white skinned niggers and all blacks are black skinned whites.
no race is not niggerish, some niggerish peoples are just smarter about their chimpouts.
One group just goes after everybody and the other tactically targets opposition for their own personal white nigger powergrab and then also attacks everybody. You literally cannot prove me wrong.
Most retarded post itt
If the countless proof what non-modern warfare is anything like told from the view of soldiers instead of officers taking drugs and getting super high was way too common and efficient.
Icelandic girls are huge sluts that love foreign dick. The reason is because a study showed that pretty much everyone in Iceland is related to each other so they've unknowingly been fucking their cousins. So now they love foreigners because they can be sure they're not related.
>america
>america
>america
We are roughly in 1020 in the manga. It could only happen if they spend a long ass time in Greece
Yeah but do they prefer the milky white foreign dick or the chocolate black foreign dick?
This is important
JUST
Northern girls prefer whiteys unless they're Swedish then I'm not sure.
Read your own post out loud and if you're not ashamed of every sentence, kill yourself
>Complains that he is bad from a purely moral perspective
>dude moralfags
No user you're the moralfag, you just consider senseless slaughter to be the end all to enforcing morals.
Brb buying my ticket
mostly white. despite all the memes on /pol/ majority of scandinavian woman don't mess about outside their race.
Yes, maybe, perhaps
a few might have done that
Sorry I'm not a delusioned faggot up his own ass known as pride.
All humans are niggers, any politicians you bring up, even the blacks, are just hiding it because its their job.
And you're a nigger too, whatever your fucking skin color you little chimpout fuck.
Correct me if I'm wrong no seriously do it, but I'm fairly certain we're still not absolutely certain wether Nordic warriors used drugs or not
lol ok kid
Then again, according to wikipedia Thorfinn should have gone to Vinland around 1010 so maybe it's not that strict
Is this gay? The dude on the right looks homosexual
what an unintelligent nigger response lol
One correct use is to drink piss of reindeer that have eaten fly amanita.
you're gay
Are you gay? You type like a homosexual.
look at them milkers
ha! got 'im!
It was probably not common but history is long and lots of weird stuff happened. I'm sure at some point in history some dude decided to eat mushrooms before battle so it's not totally unbelievable
Gays(female) do seem to flock to this show.
Why else would I be asking
is this about early viking conquests? do Christians show up or what?
literally on the picture you quoted
Christians are depicted like innocent folks instead of bloodthirsty people who killed everyone still refusing to become a christian.
Based user saving important caps
It's about naked gays farming
Post topless Thors doing metalwork.
american hands typed this post
While my hands are indeed fat, they are not of american origin.
True, as I said, perhaps a few tried it
There's not really any evidence for it but it's not the kind of thing I'd point out as unrealistic if I saw it in a show. It could happen and I do believe some norsemen ate mushrooms for fun..
Yes, a few already appeared
I mean take it from a person way before rational chemistry had started to take place in the north. These drugs not only make you unpredictable and maybe even makes you unfatigable but they also make you see weird shit.
Too any person, without any knowledge about the chemistry of drugs and the nature of hallucinogenics this is straight up a spiritual experience. Even today with modern science and all we have retards who put spirituality to seeing weird shit so its not far fetched smarter people or worse in the past experienced the same opinions.
Alright the opening has grown on me. Still a weird choice, but at least it's not some shitty J-pop song.
Did Thorfinn get all his midget genes from his mom? Thors is like 7 ft.
Going by his nickname, his parents were christian eating trolls.
He's just malnourished, our boy has been on battlefield since he was six
DADDY
It's going to be jarring seeing edgy Thorfinn again considering what he's like these days.
Hold on, is it a boy or not? I will move this higher on my backlog if so
That's a man.
It's an extremely cute boy
Cringe pederast repent now by killing yourself
I doubt Thors had a healthy upbringing either.
Doubt it, his mom is related to Thorkell remember? That's probably why Ylva is a giant of a woman. Thorfinn got his manlet genes from his dad's side probably.
He drank milk straight from a giant's teat.
She looks regular sized to me.
Imagine making a girl cum with a hug.
She's a big girl.
thors was with the jomsvikings, sure they had plenty to eat
CPR doesn't save someone from death, it can only (by about 5 minutes) delay the point of no return until until someone arrives with a defibrillator. It will not restart heart or restore breathing. In other words there no reason at all that before the invention of the defibrillator anybody would bother with CPR. But I can live with it, it's an anime not a documentary.
imagine doing in front his husband to come
Fair point.
Sorry I meant with it translated.
Pretty bad. Awful new character named heldi ruins it alot. And the tone is alot more jokeier.
If you're talking about HIld you're overreacting. Sure she's boring and one-note but she doesn't ruin whole scenes
Two new characters introduced to the party, but the baltic war arc after is a bit of a slog. Still makes sense you just wish the whole time that they could be done with this whole region and its politics already. Don't listen to the poltards who insist having named female characters in the party 'ruined' vinland saga.
>stþ engin Ylva kærasta
Bindu enda á fokking líf mitt
Haraldur Harðráði is already dead I think, this happens a couple of hundred years after the mass exodus of Norwegians into Iceland
So he goes from one type of sexy to another type of sexy? Woooow, what a tragedy.
Harald Fairhair or whatever he's called in English is dead and caused people moving to Iceland. Harald Hardrada is a chad who unfortunately failed at conquering England. His death in 1066 is often said to be the end of the viking age.
>unfortunately
cringe vikang nigger
Oh yeah you're right, I'm mixing up my Haralds
In any case if the manga is a faithful adaptation then it should be set somewhere around the 1200s-1300s, long after both Haralds died
The main character lived in the 1000s, which is when the story takes place. I don't know what you're talking about
Actually nevermind, I'm thinking of when the saga was written which was like 1200-1300 not when it actually happened
Disregard that, I suck cocks
Are you twelve?
Is this Historical Nisekai? You know, a sub-branch of Native Isekai dealing with historical events without fantasy elements
>native isekai
Consider killing yourself
Do words have no meaning anymore?
What even is Native Isekai and why do people calling this that