IT’S TWO DIFFERENT FILMS
Eva 3.0+1.0
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Pretty sure it's just an issue with screen brightness
nein
Those are two different shots. What is OP even trying to compare.
God I fucking hate Anno
>Anno will release one of the movies, film the reactions of the audience in the theatre, then use those reactions in the second movie
As expected of the genius Hideaki Anno.
Literally the same except the brightness/contrast is beyond fucked in both clips
Fucking blind retard.
Top is a single leg/hip on each side of the center, bottom is a complete lower torso, hips, and legs.
cant wait until this shit is out and over so i can forget about it
>it's possible to green into white if you just mess with brightness/contrast
Absolutely not.
You should compare top with this picture and not bottom
It's four films, actually.
3.0 + 1.0: Mari
3.0 + 2.0: Rei
3.0 + 3.0: Asuka
4.0: Shinji
No bro, what the fuck, I'll be 60 by the time that shit comes out
Why do you all live for anno when he openly mocks eva fans?
And Anno fucking hate you.
1.0 is mari
3.0 is rei + shinji. asuka (0+01+02=3)
because I'm a fan of the way Anno mocks eva fans.
It's not about the colour you fucking mong.
One LEG per side top, WHOLE LOWER BODY per side on bottom.
Please, for the love of god, rewatch the clip
That's not one leg
No one hates Anno more than himself
>What is a sideways shot from a person walking.
>inb4 you believe everyone has one leg
>pure techno jargon dialogue
>bridge crew in cat plugsuits
>battleships flying on strings like paper
>unit 8 pirouetting in the air effortlessly destroying angels despite being heavily damaged
>headless mp-evas goosestepping attached to corkscrews
>red shit magically goes away once boss is defeated
That "preview" only proves once and for all that Anno does not have even the slightest clue of what he is doing with this franchise and is basically taking the piss. Its the exact movie I figured we'd get based on the preview at the end of 3.0: everything now is just weightless cgi graphics that reduces everything to a bunch of slapstick cartoon bullshit with no sense of gravity or physics. If you couldn't see the writing on the wall in 2013 you deserve absolutely no sympathy for being disappointed by this trash.
How the fuck are Gendo and Fuyutsuki making all this shit now? Do they have a slave army of Reis running factories or something?
3.0 literally shows glimpses of a mass-production Eva factory, so yes.
Anno wrote Shin Godzilla, which a lot of people liked. Why can't he stop making shitty Eva sequels?
There's people here debating which color the mp Eva's are even though it's just the resolution on the different cameras
Idiot
Shin Godzilla was literally an NGE angel episode with an angel dressed up as Godzilla.
Shin was just an Eva movie stripped of characters and replaced with talking heads.
>thing is happening!
>we're putting this in place as a response!
takes me back to when i watched the shitty ass camrips of 1.0 and 2.0 and actually enjoyed the experience. reminded me of the VHS days.
i miss when people cared so much about anime they'd compete to fansub 240p camrips on day one.
¸So why did they cut off Eva08's arms when they were shown just to be burned in 3.0?
Bottom looks much more Eva.
> Paris
It's Nadia all over again! Eternal return, as promised.
>the part where Mari looks like a truck driver backing up
>the part where all her enemies swarm her and conveniently pile on top of each other in a cartoonish fashion so she can throw them all away and they explode
Eva will just be a joke as long as she is on-screen.
>>the part where all her enemies swarm her and conveniently pile on top of each other in a cartoonish fashion so she can throw them all away and they explode
I still don't get this shit
Was there a gigantic magnet in there? It looked goofy as fuck
> he still doesn't understand that Rebuilds are Anno's reflecting on Evangelion, anime, and himself
>that part where Mari stares directly into the camera and says "Shinji is a heterosexual. Fags are disgusting escapists. Marry a woman and reproduce."
Damn, maybe Anno really is gonna clear up all the questions remaining in Evangelion.
>I hate Anno fucking God
Ftfy.
>when they were shown just to be burned in 3.0?
Speedwatcher. They were corrupted and turning into core material.
Unless his message is "you dumb fucks will buy anything, now give me your money you filthy nerd", that's not a valid excuse for all this retardation.
jesus they goosestep? eeughh
Plugsuit Maya is a miracle of the universe.
Still looks fucking good though.
Not that Maya. She's been trash since 3.0.
Maybe if she wore a jacket over it. I find Ritsuko repulsive but MY DICK ON THOSE OUTFIT CHOICES
Evangelion giving me new Star Wars cashcow vibes when the creator hasn’t got a clue what to do.
Watching Douchebagchocolat’s videos on the rebuild movies make a lot more sense now.
Oh fuck oh shit I completely forgot about kitty unit 2 until you posted that screenshot fucking FUCK YOU ANNO YOU FUCK HACK
Not like it matters.
The retarded Beast Mode uselessly jobs in 2 out of 2 uses.
>no plugsuit Misato
>nuWars and nuEVA are the very definitions of soulless
>soul vs soulless is a meme
>so calling a spade a spade will draw out shit eating retards calling you the retard for not liking this garbage fest
I can already smell the dumpster fire burning, and it's only going to get worse.
Soul vs. soulness is legitimately a thing and entirely applicable to Rebuild.
soul/soulless is the most retarded "criticism" ever though and is only used by retards who can't come up with anything actually meaningful to say. Fuck off with trying to get it accepted, the new films are shit but you're a worse cretin for spouting that Yea Forums-tier drivel
>Shinji is arrogant and follows what he thinks is right
>Asuka is heroic and hate Shinji for messing up
>Rei is a mindless doll with no internal conflict
>Misato blames Shinji for trying to save Rei to the point of hatred
>Ritsuko is just techno babble, really doesn't serve a purpose
>Fuyutsuki is a mindless drone who is fine going along with humanitys extinction
>Gendo is the evil dr.wiley-eqse super villian
Like I know its a different series to the original but everyones character is barely recognizable
Would totally buy a scale figure of her.
Who needs suits when you can have official lewds?
sauce?
This fucking fanbase is literally that Gundam comic about OOO COOL ROBOT where the message of war is bad goes over peoples head, except it's literally OOO DEEP SHOW but the message is just OOO COOL ROBOT now
Anno isn't a fucking a struggling creator anymore basically pouring his emotions into art anymore. He's a fucking rich guy making schlock on the same level as Michael Bay but trying to come off as DEEP because that's his brand
"Soulless" is the most succinct way of saying "the movies seem to be purely a corporate product with intent to make money" without having to write an entire essay of what's wrong with rebuild that no one will read.
how would you turn Mari into a proper character?
Put her into a blender
Same as every "deep" character: give her some dumb sad tragedy story, and make her a bit depressed. Voila, brand new DEEP and DEVELOPED character.
Plugsuits truly make everything better.
Make her secretly evil / a timetraveler / one of the FAR.
Mass production machines need constant maintanance and reparations
That's Naruto-tier writing
are there more?
god these designs are terrible. Anno just stop
have sex: the movie
Yeah, it is, and it's gonna keep on being an argument people have because the definition for what has soul and what doesn't is impossible to get to. It comes down to what you perceive has meaning and what doesn't.
For instance, I think the first two Rebuild shots on there are fine. The last one is soulless.
>no scar
its fake.
Make her role more defined and Mari herself more self aware of what her role is. Have it be made explicit that she's from a group that isn't NERV or SELEE (The Jet Alone group would've been perfect for her, but since that's going too far from the Mari we have, make it an oversight committee of the UN). She's there to provide backup to NERV, but also to report what is happening to her higher ups. Have her do that clearly once or twice a film, maybe even link up with Kaji in 2.0 as a source of intel. Maybe have it so that she's also explicitly kept in the dark about what exactly an Evangelion is, so the audience can understand why she doesn't treat them like anything but machines to pilot. And have someone say that she was raised in a military environment that would lead to her being accustomed to combat, and her talent in that lifestyle is why she enjoys battle so much.
Now with just very small tweaks to her character, she became a character that at the very least is understandable, in the plot for a reason, and has motive to act the way that she does. And the funniest thing is that most of that character is basically just slapping the first, better official Eva OC girl, Mana Kirishima, on top of Mari. That's all it takes.
wtf i love maya now
Soul.
Soulless.
>Nazi Evas invading Paris
she's a character from Evangelion, Misato I think
>oh shit Paris is ruined
>typing keyboards like some hacking scene from a Hollywood movie
>yaaaaaaaay everything is back to normal
Just change her color scheme and get rid of her periodic serious exposition. Her little asides are probably 90% of why she was branded a Mary Sue.
>People believe Shinji is the MC.
>Master Anno subverts and deconstructs yet again.
>Shinji and Asuka won't be shown or mentioned AT ALL in the last movie.
>There will be only Mari.
>This will show those filthy fans for waiting years and getting emotionaly invested in characters.
>Anno cultists jizz themselves out of joy.
>SASUGA ANNO-SAMA.
I find the way they walk oddly satisfying.
And for dramatic tension apparently they only had 11 seconds left to complete their hacking or....I guess they could just never make it work?
Why was there a timer!?
Did you not see the giant angel-sealing pillar they jammed into the center of the city or what?
Only had a limited time before the mass production evas nuked them in order to stop their efforts.
>Only had a limited time before the mass production evas nuked them in order to stop their efforts.
And what makes you think this?
Because it's literally a repeat of the 2 mass production eva fights that happened in 3.0, which were also trying to stop Wille's efforts (though in the end they just proved to be distractions.)
Why did the timer keep counting down after mari took care of them? Why did the timer only stop once the restoration actually happened?
Why are you making shit up?
>the lighting int he theatres/screens are different
>the recording devices have different brightness
>they're not the exact same shot, something happens during the scene that darkens things
I don't know why the first assumption is the same film is two different films.
How many times does Anno have to destroy the Eiffel Tower?
The strangest thing about those kinds of people is that they latch onto their idea of Anno and take that as fact, no matter what he may say or do. It's gotten to the point where they seriously say the Rebuilds are bad on purpose to make people feel like idiots for wanting a good story, and that makes it secretly good all along. They're certain that Anno hates that people feel attachment to his characters and made the Rebuilds to tell them how stupid they are, no matter how much he says he specifically doesn't like it when people give up on life and devote themselves to a fantasy, and that he likes otaku, and is an otaku, he just doesn't go too far.
It was the timer for the angel pillar.
They needed time for the angel pillar to activate and the mass production evas were attempting to stop them.
Same shit that happened when another model of said mass-production evas tried to stop Wille from activating the Wunder with Eva 01.
This really isn't that hard to follow as long as you take scene parallels into consideration.
>lemme change my story real quick
You'll be 90 or dead
>tfw you realize that Lilith collected the souls of all the nerv staff that were killed by the jssdf so they can come back
please dont fuck it up anno
Well at least the memes will be good.
Why wouldn't they just nuke them anyway?
>Lilith also collected the souls of the JSSDF
>The JSSDF start killing them again as soon as they're out
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also look up stripping instrumentality
>the geofront doesn't exist anymore so they'd be scattered across wherever
The rebuilds aren't bad though
Just because you can't understand it doesn't make it bad
Off to a bad start
>ywn validate Rei's existence
If Nadia and Evangelion somehow tied together, it'd actually be good.
And what if I do understand it, and still think it's bad? Because I do understand what the movies are, I've read and understand the perspective of people who think the movies are Anno reacting to people who took Evangelion a way he didn't intend them to, and I understand the movies in the reality of how they were produced and what they attempted to do as far as they have communicated. But I do still think they are bad movies.
Just like 4.44, it's a perfect match.
Given your understanding, why do you think they are bad movies?
Fixed.
>Eva 4.0 is MEMEME! on a loop for 2 hours
BRAVO! SASUGA EL MAESTRO ANNO!
Okay how the hell is Paris so perfectly preserved under the core material?
Why is the Vatican fielding an army of Evas?
What in the everloving fuck happened between 2.22 and 3.33?
Why does Maya's butt look so good in a plugsuit?
>facebook
>Normalfag JoJo meme
Go back
kek
The Vatican isn't doing anything, the Vatican Treaty was designed to stop any single nation from monopolising Eva usage
Then who the hell is fielding the Evas? Its explicitly stated in both the series and the movie that just one of those could bankrupt a nation.
3.0+1.0 will just be Kaworu's ghost whispering to Shinji about how he actually needs the spear of Gaius this time
There's no one to bankrupt, there's no one to charge for labor or materials
Then who built them? Surely theres some remnant of human civilization.
NERV probably has that shit automated at this point
Plus the armor is biological now rather than actual restraints
When 3.0 came out. I really didn't like it.
>civilians are all dead, what are they fighting for?
>humans are the enemy?
>too gay!
>that's not Rei!
>Asuka only have one eye?
But when the trailer show a city getting recovered, it kind of made me curious.
Maybe 3.0 sucking was part of Anno's plan all along.
Suppose the one positive I can say about Mari is she can get me to laugh.
>No one hates Anno more than himself
Based
>Shin Gojira is considered semi canon to Eva.
nya-nya-nya-nya-nya
>Best part of 3.0 was the first 10 minutes revealed in advance
>Rest was shit
What killed the hype?
gendo?
ritsuko literally mentions fuyutsuki when the angel hybrid shows up
NENENENENENENENE
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Mari is essentially what would happen if Noriko Takaya was in the Eva Universe. Like if she was in literally any other mecha show she would blend in perfectly.
>Noriko
>Mari
>Same character
Pls, they are not the same girl. If else, we would wish that Noriko is ever featured in Eva.
How did they manage to recover Mari and not Asuka
They weren't even that far apart from each other
lmao everyone still seething at mari?
she just has legitimatelly brain problems instead of muh traumatic past like the rest of the cast
Asuka is probably in a medbay. Shinji was probably thrown in the brig.
If you watch it frame by frame they actually skewer each other with their lances. That's really the only way you can follow the clusterfuck of 3.0 and this film.
How? Noriko is more similar to Shinji than anyone else.
Mari literally tells him to wait for them
Just imagine, if Nadia had been as big a hit as Eva was then we'd be getting Rebuild of Nadia instead.
>implying this isn't already Rebuild of Nadia
both + new rei are still MIA
>Implying Nadia isn't a prequel to Eva.
Oh fug the quadcopter evas all have lances what in the FUCK. I mean I get that it's already been established that you can shit out inferior lances but this is starting to get slightly ridiculous.
>Turn a character who while she didn't get that much development was known to be kindhearted into an Ice queen.
Nadia really needed a rebuild considering how shit the island arc was. NGE doesnt since it fixes everythinig in the manga.
This. We just watched 10 minutes of footage of a 90 minute movie that served to do nothing for the plot or characters. If anyone thinks that 3.0+1.0 is going to have a satisfying narrative resolution, then you're a moron.
If anyone needs more proof that Anno didn't have any idea where he was going to go with the series, just look at the constant delayed release schedule:
>The release schedule of the Rebuild movies has experienced many delays, with the first film pushed from its original summer release date to fall 2007, and the second film's release date shifted from 2008 to summer 2009. The third film, initially announced as a simultaneous release with Evangelion: Final in the summer of 2008,[19] was released in the fall of 2012.
>In 2012 the final film was briefly listed on Khara's website for a 2013 release.[20] Later, in the August 2013 issue of OtonaFami, it was announced that it would be released around winter 2015.[21] In October 2014, Anno announced that due to other commitments,[22] which was later revealed to be his involvement with Shin Godzilla,[23] the film will be further delayed to an unknown date despite the previous release date being echoed in the January 2015 issue of Weekly Bunshun.[24]
And no, this had nothing to do with budget or money, since:
>In the December 2006 issue of Newtype, Anno revealed he was happy to finally recreate Eva "as he wanted it to be" in the beginning and that he was no longer constrained by technological and budget limitations.[18]
It's simply Anno not knowing what to do.
Which is a shame since when separated from Eva Anno is a very good director and film maker.
Can someone explain to me how can Mari can control EVA Unit 2?
Nice. What's that? This picked my interest,
Wait how did they change her character? The last thing I remember is that she was the nervous one who hide from horrible thing and had a raging lesbian boner for Ritsuko.
What's the odds of us getting actual FAR info and answers?
Except it didnt fix anything. There was nothing to fix in the first place. Rebuild was a mistake.
They're related to Eva-04, the experimental unit that turned inside-out, disappeared, and took like a third of Nevada with it. Obviously, that all went to a pocket dimension where time was screwy, Eva development continued inside that vacuum for a hundred years, until 3rd Impact ripped the universe open again and it all came pouring out.
Knowing Anno's mental history, his decision to reboot NGE was probably an impulse. I can imagine that he was mentally at an extremely happy place in 2006, which led to an impulse to reboot NGE. But impulses are only momentary, so not long after production of the first movie began, he crashed back down to reality.
Even the first Rebuild movie had a fucking delay for its release even though it just recycles 90 percent of the first six episodes of NGE.
My guess is she is related to Asuka in some way. The woman with the glasses in the picture Fuyutski shows Shinji has elements of both Asuka and Mari in her design.
Fucking Area 51 nonsense
Can someone explain to me what happened between Kaworu lancing Shinji at the end of Rebuild 2 to the world being a complete clusterfuck at the start of Rebuild 3 and Shinji being in space somehow?
No 1 knows his mental history.
>1.11 and the first half of 2.22 are Happy Anno
>Second half of 2.22 and 3.33 are Depressed Anno
>Shin Gojira is Happy Anno again
So which Anno will we get in the final film?
Remember when the opening scenes of Evangelion were usually just still really cool shots intended to set up the films’s tone and themes? And didn’t have disorientating action scenes involving bland uninteresting characters? Yeah, me too.
>Eva-04's existence in the franchise was memed so hard it entered its own pocket universe that is spitting out mass produced versions of it to conquer the world that abandoned it
Sasuga Anno
For a character that was introduced in the second movie, we still don't know anything about Mari.
>that served to do nothing for the plot or characters
That's not entirely true, they finally brought the angel glyph things into focus and showed us a function that'll play heavily in the plot, since it's a way to reverse the damage done to the world.
It's pretty stupid but then again so is the ease with which the impacts make everything red, which is apparently just something called L-field (I guess because it came out of left field).
The earliest thing I know about Anno is that he didn't really grow up with a dad to play with him and discipline him and teach him stuff, but he did have an old man with an amputated leg he could go look at and resent for it.
>It's simply Anno not knowing what to do.
Anno knows exactly what he's doing. He's milking his cash cow whenever he wants to and for however long he wants to. Anno long ago entered the phase of his career where all he wants is a nice, big, fat, reliable paycheck.
>Anno always wanted to make a brain dead, action, mecha movie
>only bothered to get pseudo-intellectual, 2DEEP4ME, pretentious, psychobabble because it was cheaper to make
Don't worry. We'll have 3.0+2.0 and 3.0+3.0 to flesh Mari out.
He'll probably feel the way people do when they're told to lug a big smelly bag of trash to the bin.
And sweet, sweet power lines.
Thank god for USB type-C
>Best girl gets lots of screentime
I liked the preview
Okay she looks like she belongs in Gurren Lagann. Not Eva.
you're thinking of the wrong side of the cable
So those things all have replica lances of longinus, like the MP-Evas in EoE did? And Mari is just swatting 100s of them all away like flies?
WHY IS SHE SO OP!?
Those lips look like they can suck a man's soul right out of his dick during fellatio.
wow I love this 10fps cgi
Mari is a Mary Sue.
Something about her bugs me.
I want to punch her lips back into her face.
Mari>Sumire>Midori>Sakura
I need this slowed down so I can understand what I'm supposed to be looking at.
Are you new here? Eva has always been about style over substance
Now?
Dude, if you didn't love Maya even BEFORE 2019 then you haven't been paying attention.
I swear for the longest time I thought Maya was Shinji's older sister.
>Mari
>Mary Sue
>Mari Sue
BASED ANNO DOES IT AGAIN
That kick is so unnatural lol. You have to turn your hips in the direction you are kicking to kick with any power like that.
Who kicked you user?
>90 minute movie
Sauce? The last two Rebuilds have both been over 2 hours. If this is shorter than 2:30 it’ll be a travesty
That's Kaede, you chucklefuck. Look at her bangs.
>The last two Rebuilds have both been over 2 hours.
3.0 was 96 minutes
2.0 was 108 minutes
1.0 was 98 minutes (in theater) and 101 minutes (in the uncut DVD version)
Maya is low key best girl.
>low key
Only non-Rebuild Maya is lovable.
Openly angry man-hating dyke Maya is not Maya.
For 1 and 2, I think they rely too heavily on inferred information from NGE. The characters are there, but the groundwork is left to be inferred. To explain succinctly, they offer very little compared to just watching NGE itself, and for newcomers, they offer a narrative that is shallow in it's characters and world, they expect you to already know everything about Evangelion, and so don't bother showing us the level of characterization from NGE. The only way to excuse that is time loop theory, which recontexualizes these into sequel movies, allowing us to see these as the same characters. But until then, they exist as action movies with puddles that stand in for Eva characters.
For 3.0, I think it valued feeling over narrative or character. The movie put us in Shinji's mind and has us feel that sense of confusion, guilt, desperation and doubt, but in doing so it burns the established narrative to the ground. 2.0 does not follow into 3.0 well at all, and it intentionally makes the characters not matter to the plot. For all of 3.0, there is almost no event in the story that is character driven, with the exception of Kaworu and Shinji hanging out. Otherwise, we are shuttled from point A to point B by the plot, expected to feel the emotions I described, and it's over. The characters are still suffering from the issue that hurt 1 and 2, they dont bother establishing motivation or personality on the assumption that you know them from NGE, when NGE may not be canon at all to these.
And I do not think a meta narrative angle excuses this. First off, I doubt the intent of 2.0 was to set people up for the rug being pulled out from them in 3.0, because we know that the film was heavily rewritten from the original script. Second, if we assume the theory that 2.0 and 3.0 were designed to be Anno attacking NEET otaku who wanted different things, having a message does not mean that the movie is good. A movie still needs to have a good narrative, and they do not.
I thought she only liked girls
To be fair you would be bitter too after living fourteen years of apocalypse.
Since when has that mattered to fans? I've seen doujins where a Futa Asuka marries Rei.
Lets be frank here. Her only purpose is Bridge Bunny.
that's exactly what he wants
Fourteen years of NTR.
Literally just have more people avoid her and think she's fucking weird. Mari's whole thing is that she stands out from the rest of the cast, deconstruct that trope like every other character's and you're good.
>wtf happened between 2.0 and 3.0?
>wtf happened to the moon?
>why was shinji in space?
>kaworu seemingly stopped 3rd impact at the end of 2.0 so why is everything fucked?
>what happened to kaji?
>who the fuck is mari?
>what is the vessel of adams?
>wtf is the wunder?
>what are the failures of infinity? humanity? why wasn't misato and co. turned into them?
>why do the failures of infinity have no heads?
>why are all their heads in dogma?
>wtf happened to lilith and mark 06?
>whats with all the fucking spears?
None of these questions will be answered in the new film.
>how will Anno fund his next non-Eva pet project
I bet you can answer that question.
So has Anno reached George Lucas levels of hackery yet?
I have no idea what I'm looking at, did a preview come out?
>Mari is asuka's mom clone
b-bros
Plot-wise, he knows exactly what he's doing with the plot.
The sci-fi jargon actually has meaning to it now, and once you really look into the details, you start to notice how well-planned everything was; from the very first 20 minutes of 1.0 to the new 10-minute preview of 4.0. It's all extremely well thought-out and makes a ton of sense once you put it all together; it's just presented in a very convoluted, subtle way. Pic related is just one example of this.
The real problem with the Rebuilds though, was that he sacrificed genuine character development and character focus for a far more in-depth and interesting take on backstory. And at the end of the day, people were more interested in whatever trauma the characters were going through then than whatever symbolic, narrative meanings were tied in with its sci-fi elements.
But then again, you can only put so much character focus on multiple characters throughout a movie series, where each sequel is about 2 hours, maybe 2 hours and 30 minutes tops. And Anno couldn't afford to do that with Rebuild. Hence Shinji really being the only "major" character throughout the new flicks, while the other iconic characters get shafted as a result.
The real fault in all of this is that Rebuild should've been a TV series, not a movie series.
You forgot
>what is the 'curse of the eva'
user, I have to ask, how does the idea of the story being well thought out and cleverly displayed since the beginning mesh with the fact that he has done multiple rewrites of the plot, and the fact that the original plan for the Rebuilds were recap movies with an alternate ending, and was rewritten completely after 1.11 had massive hype for Kaworu's scene? It's well documented that every Rebuild movie has been a written with a different end goal in mind compared to the last.
You forgot MANY things, just too many questions to ask. None will be answered in 3.0+1.0, though
And what "sense" does your pic make?
that picture doesn't have any fucking meaning to it whatsoever
All that matters to me is that Shinji and Misato end the movie series on good terms. It's all I care about.
I think it's supposed to be that nervous systems are occult symbols and it must mean something that so many things have them.
What does it mean? Should I kill myself?
after the watch the movie
This should be posted every time someone tries to defend 3.0's plot as being good.
it looks like shit
all of eva is naruto tier
you're on Yea Forums. the answer to that is always 'do it faggot'
A lot of that dumb shit comes from Yamashita being more involved, Anno just lets him have his way and accepts all of his weird as fuck untethered designs.
I could deal with a few of those being dropped, but I believe we won't hear even half of it. Would need way too much exposition.
Anyone else just want a remake of the original without budget restrictions? I couldnt give two shits about the new story. The story was shit in the original too. I wanted to see the redesigns. A few subtle differences would have been fine and intriguing, but really what the fuck even is this shit?
> If
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Anything familiar here?
Yea, really wanted to see some other angel fights get the Ramiel treatment
>multiple rewrites of the plot
Doesn't mean he has absolutely no clue what he's doing.
Would you want your fans figuring out all of the mysteries well before the they even get to the final movie, for example? No, that would completely kill off the WTF factor and fucking babyrage rants from waifufags.
But despite these rewrites, everything still manages to display some level of importance to the plot. Even seemingly pointless shit like the Vatican Treaty that was briefly mentioned in 2.0 made a comeback in the 4.0 preview, with all of it playing an important part in the ongoing plot.
The Key of Nebuchadnezzar is the new Adam Embryo. SEELE utilized the brain portion of the nervous system in order to overtake 4th impact during the events of 3.0's climax, hence why the key's missing its brain. However they were twarted by Gendo when he killed Kaworu with the chocker and ejected Shinji out of Eva 13 via Mari's help. Gendo plans to use the remaining Key to trigger instrumentality through his own means.
It's it emotionally fulfilling for the waifufags or for people who enjoyed Eva for its deep, tragic, psychological character development? No. And this is where the Rebuilds fail.
But is it interesting from a plot/piece-it-together yourself scifi jargon perspective? Yes. And unfortunately, these aspects of the movies get frequently ignored or shit on due to lack of fulfilling character development and character focus.
Most of these questions can be answered if you have the patience, the IQ or the autism to piece the movies' narrative clues together, but answering all of these in a single post would be too much work.
Noriko is essentially female Shinji.
Too bad Shinji never got to stick his dick inside Misato's pussy.
>Most of these questions can be answered if you just make shit up and pull it out of your ass like the rest of my post.
Hold up, I thought this shit was something like this but what i'm exactly looking at???
Really big juicers that convert Evangelions into shootbeams.
Got nothing on whoever put power lines into Lain.
>Would need way too much exposition.
That's not even going into the need to provide satisfying resolutions to the character arcs of at least Shinji, Rei, Asuka, Misato and Mari, who make up the main characters of the Rebuilds.
Seriously, just in terms of storytelling alone, this final movie has a shit ton of work to do that, realistically speaking, it won't be able to accomplish.
>baaaw my waifu got shafted in the Rebuilds along with every other character that isn't Shinji so I'm just going to be a juvenile faggot and outright deny any remotely positive reception, interesting discussion or open-minded views and opinions that other people might have for these movies
Yeah I don't like the fact that the movies dropped the ball on the character development either, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate some of it for its other qualities. I'm just trying to say that things start to become more comprehensible when you at least try to piece the symbolism and sci-fi Jargon together, simple as that. And the main focus in these movies is the sci-fi jargon and whatever symbolism and narrative themes surround it. That's what the fans should be paying attention to if they want answers. It sucks but that's the truth.
fucking anno, the monkey eared fuck. someone should throw a rock at his glass heart and make him depressed again. it's the only way he produces anything good
Making a lot of assumptions about me there mate, guess it makes sense since you're doing the same with the films.
Maya and Shinji being related is, in fact, one of the deep Evafag theories.
Godzilla was pretty good and he wasn't in such a depressive state when he made that.
i thought he only made that BECAUSE he was depressed
I thought he said that as an excuse for working on something else and he's full of shit any time he tells an anecdote about moping and Shinji Higuchi coming to motivate him like a Dragon Ball character.
What the fuck happened to this series
lmao
Wasn't this the plot of Re-Take? Shinji gets sent back to the point that he wakes up in the hospital bed then tries to do things differently.
Sorry for the late reply, just got back from the gym. Hope you're still here.
My take is that the rebuild series isn't made for newcomers and should be watched with the original series fresh in your mind. My interpretation is not so much time loop as the world has been reconstructed post eoe (hence the rebuild title.) The main difference is that Asuka and Rei have been updated to match the modern versions of the character tropes they represented when nge was produced. The narrative elements that you would prefer to be repeated are deliberately left behind to focus on what would be done different if nge was made today. After all you can't fully remake the majority of the original series in one and a half movies.
I understand where you are coming from regarding 3.0. Like how 1 and 2 rely on the original plot for context, 3 relies on the original series to show how the characters differ. Asuka goes from tsun to psycho and Rei fully becomes the doll some fans imagine her to be. While the original series highlighted the trauma that lay behind the personalities of the two main girls, 3 showed the inverse by taking their personalities to the extreme. For me this is enough and I enjoy the action as windowdressing but I can see how others might feel that you need a kind of main narrative as well. Hopefully 3.0+1.0 will address this for the subset of people that want the "main" plot explained. I prefer the original ending to eoe and I imagine we might differ on opinion here as well.
As an aside I feel Anno is attacking the industry as much as the fans for churning out characters defined by the same tropes season after season. 3 for me feels like "what if these characters are pushed to the extreme" in comparison to "what are these characters coping with by acting out these tropes" in the original series.
Bear in mind this is purely my speculation and I wouldn't be surprised if some interview with Anno completely blew my interpretation apart
I was at the live event, Shinji's VA confirmed that as far as she knows, there won't be any more Evangelion after this; also the voice acting for the movie is about halway done
It's really hard to stand you self-assured faggots who demand a simple explanation without understanding what should be explained, and cling to the most stupid idea that “it makes no sense” because it is always at hand.
People in Gainax had been otaku even before you were born. They didn't simply consume anime, they reflected upon it, and eventually started to make it. Gurren-Lagann cited previous shows every other second. Diebuster was not only a sister story to Gunbuster, but also a perspective on how anime had changed since then. Do you really think that music of Nadia was re-purposed simply because Shiro Sagisu can't write anything new? Nautilus and Wunder take off to the same song, but idiots can't see anything meaningful in it. Tying Evangelion and Shin Godzilla was also an accident, sure.
Evangelion has ended (literally ENDED), but you still blame Anno for not feeding you the same shit over and over again (as anime should do, in your pathetic opinion). Just as it happened not to be a story about robots, new movies are neither a remake of Evangelion.
Back when EOE came out, I'm sure none of the VAs knew there was going to be a Rebuild quadrilogy 10 years later either. So her saying that means nothing.
Then why the fuck was Rei's eva just fine when she did the exact same thing in 2.22?
EVA has always been about absurd complex and detailed mechanics. Anno just took it to a whole new level. Like I wrote a couple of days ago, this shit hand-drawn would look orgasmic.
>mindless shitty CGI giant mech battles
>optimistic shit like Paris being restored
>flying WW2 battleships
when did anno lose his touch?
this is the most gurren lagann shit i've seen since gurren lagann
You zoomers make me puke. KYS.
Sadamoto plagiarized his own Evangelion score for that movie. So I'm not surprised.
>>kaworu seemingly stopped 3rd impact at the end of 2.0 so why is everything fucked?
This one basically was already answered, there was a partial third impact that he couldn't stop
Was I the only one that liked the music? Sounded like flamenco or something
>Asuka is probably in a medbay. Shinji was probably thrown in the brig.
And has another one of those suicide collars slapped on him.
agreed.
She hates his balls now. He ended the world and made her life a living hell. I highly doubt they'll end the movie on good terms. Shinji will probably kill her, or she'll kill him. The bridge is burned. They're never getting back together
>this is the most gurren lagann shit i've seen since gurren lagann
Yeah. But what the fuck is it doing in fucking Evangelion!?
The rebuilt movies are just so lame compared to the original anime. Even with updated graphics, the animation is much worse, and most of the character developpement goes through the window.
This scene was the only good change from 2.22 as it felt much more natural for teens to do, but the rest was lame or had a good idea but lackluster excecution, like replacing Toji in unit 03 with Asuka
Why? The original is perfect.
>I was at the live event, Shinji's VA confirmed that as far as she knows, there won't be any more Evangelion after this; also the voice acting for the movie is about halway done
Not entirely true. Anno said that he's planning to 'make eva a franchise like Gundam' where you get a new story with new eva and characters every few years or so in different continuities. But no more Asuka Rei Shinji Misato.
Characters growing into adults while the main character stays a pubescent teenager was a key plotpoint in both Gunbuster and 3.33. So Shinji and Noriko have that in common.
>Just imagine, if Nadia had been as big a hit as Eva was then we'd be getting Rebuild of Nadia instead.
Anno says that his next project might be a collab with studio ghibli to make a complete adaptation of miyazakis Nadia of the Valley Of The Wind.
I honestly think Anno is just cynically taking the piss out of fans
Eva was supposed to be like the more 'grounded and real' mecha show. This is just completely opposite to the spirit of that.
Lame, shitty graphics, seems to be the type of the thing the original Eva parodied. Can you imagine how 90s Anno would have reacted seeing this post-episode 16?
This might be the case. Originally Anno shat on the fans by moving away towards mecha/pairing shit and bashing otaku culture. But now that the original anime is so lauded and people expect it to be deep and meaningful he just is making the type of thing Eva originally parodied, as a way to spite the fanbase
He said that at the time of 2.0, so it could be in reference to all the spinoff projects going on then that have already boomed and busted, or because he's so reluctant to work on even the core movies himself it could be because he'd always intended to make these 4 movies to found his own studio off of and then sell Eva to NHK.
>Evangelion: Final in the summer of 2008,[19] was released in the fall of 2012.
>its been 7 years
Jesus what am I doing with my life
>My take is that the rebuild series isn't made for newcomers and should be watched with the original series fresh in your mind
Not the user you're replying to, but the fact that the movie isn't intended for newcomers shouldn't be considered a detriment to its overall quality, IMO.
You could say the same for End of Evangelion, you can't just expect some random Joe to jump into that movie and know what the flying fuck is going on without watching the previous 26 episodes, but that didn't stop the film from being an absolute masterpiece for those that did watch the series beforehand.
> The main difference is that Asuka and Rei have been updated to match the modern versions of the character tropes they represented when nge was produced.
And yet most fans are disgusted by this treatment. Perhaps this was Anno's intention? To make you feel disgusted by their shoddy fanservice treatment that people craved from 2.0, with the forced cooking competition bullshit, for example. Hence your comment:
>As an aside I feel Anno is attacking the industry as much as the fans for churning out characters defined by the same tropes season after season
Well said.
People literally wanted feel good fanservice and 2.0's reception was proof of this. I'm happy he subverted expectations with 3.0 in this regard. I was starting to miss that old mindfuckery aspect of Eva until that movie dropped.
I would be down for this if it took place in other nations besides Japan, like taking place in Germany or the US's Nerv bases with their own pilots. But Anno definitely seems like a nationalist so that'll probably never happen.
>And has another one of those suicide collars slapped on him.
probably attached on his penis.
Are you a time traveller?
The fuck even is this? I don't remeber this in any of it I watched. Were the remakes just completely different from the original? Does it even have the same characters?
Theres nothing there to attach it to.
>Were the remakes just completely different from the original? Does it even have the same characters?
1.0 is a carbon copy of the first 7 or so episodes, but everything starts going completely off the rails starting with the very beginning shot of 2.0.
Also the cast is relatively the same outside of the addition of a several new side characters and one new "main" character/pilot, Mari.
First movie. Straight up retelling of the first six episodes of the series.
Second movie. Takes some plot elements of the original series and then goes a bit nuts around the midpoint after the Bardiel scene.
Third movie. Completely and utterly batshit insane and dark as fuck.
First movie was nearly identical to NGE
Second was pure fanservice
Third went off on its own story
Fourth one looks to be completely different like the third.
>Were the remakes just completely different from the original?
The first film and half the second were "basically" the same and it diverged from there, but it still kinda mirrors the original in a wanky artistic way
Why evafags keep rewatching shitty versions of the same anime, is it autism?
It wasn't dark as fuck what are you talking about
So sometime in the last 15 yrs it wasn't remasters but complete remakes? Well that sucks.
She's working as intended, the only character in the rebuilds that gets shit done without the character development
after 3.0 im just along for the ride really
He will be depressed again. He was happy with the big paycheck from Godzilla, but lately, he couldn't find his favourite pair of socks, which send him into deep existential crisis. Truly none of us suffer as much as this artist.
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>It wasn't dark as fuck what are you talking about
A 14 year old boy is singularly guilty for literally (accidentally) genociding the human race. With a bodycount higher than mao and hitler combined. The more you think about it the darker and more depressing it gets
IF YOU DON'T GET THE OBSCURE REFERENCE, THEN YOU ARE RETARDED
GET ON MY LEVEL YOU FILTHY DISGUSTING PLEBEIANS
EDUCATE YOURSELF
>She's working as intended, the only character in the rebuilds that gets shit done without the character development
She exists to sell merch. Nothing else.
>Not the user you're replying to, but the fact that the movie isn't intended for newcomers shouldn't be considered a detriment to its overall quality, IMO.
That was what I was trying to say
>And yet most fans are disgusted by this treatment. Perhaps this was Anno's intention? To make you feel disgusted by their shoddy fanservice treatment that people craved from 2.0, with the forced cooking competition bullshit, for example. Hence your comment:
I think fundamentally Anno relates to the fanbase as a fan of anime himself. He may want to challenge us and force us to think more about the media we consume but I doubt he intends on offending us. You wouldn't do what he does without a love for the medium and a desire to create great works. The cooking competition is an example of the series being modernised
She exists to trigger bakas like you. She's literally an in joke.
You all are fucking retarded and don't understand Evangelion. God, I hate Yea Forums so much. It's literally been over two decades.
>Trigger the otakus, own the otakus
- Hideaki Anno, 2019.
Not Anno's fault you're clinically retarded user
>She exists to trigger bakas like you. She's literally an in joke.
You think I dont know that?
>asianfemaledrivers.webm
You said she exists to sell merch, so yes I do think you don't know that
Anno doesn't understand what made Evangelion great anymore than George Lucas understands what made Star Wars great.
You can LITERALLY see the curve of the hips and other leg in that shot.
>i-it's mean to be bad
This is the same excuse people use for MGS4, it's still shit. You made something intentionally shit and you think that's a leg to stand on?
ESL or phoneposter? Either way, you're a retard.
The new plugsuit has a crotch plate. Likely removable to make it easier for them to use the bathroom. Which was a huge design flaw with the OG plugsuits.
Ok ADF poster, go consume your intentional shit and praise it as some subversive masterpiece.
>can't just go to the bathroom in the suit
trash/10
I’d unironically like that after 24 years of Shinji the manbaby. Can’t believe Eva’s responsible for bland, mope-y male leads going strong for three fucking decades, now.
Misato's VA is cute.
>inb4 3.0+1.0 is actually a 3.5hr film answering all of these questions and more; with its ending giving the evangelion franchise a proper kino conclusion
>hence the 8 year delay
A man can hope.
>Misato's VA is legendary!
Ftfy.
It's too bad about her voice. She'd lost so much treble even by 1.0 that Misato started to sound like an actual mom yelling at you, I think it's part of why so many of her more playful bits from the series were left out.
>use 3d instead of animating it properly
>instead of creating new models, merging a bunch of already made models into a clusterfuck and passing it off as "weird and artsy"
There is no limit to this hackery.
>that music
>that retarded fucking CGI
>that shitty "action" scene
>that hacking hollywood shit
I've been at the "I may as well finish it" stage since the first rebuild but I'm sincerely regretting it.
>7
Theres a penis in there
I kept telling myself that while Anno was working on Shin Godzilla, that Khara was going to work on an OVA series briefly chronicling what happened between 2.22 and 3.33, but that obviously never happened.
What ArcSys game is this?
I'm starting to have the same issue that I had with the Transformers movies, where everything is so overdesigned that I can't tell what the fuck is going on.
Would've prefered if the rebuilds where the original series but with better budgets and maybe more depth into plotline like seele, gendos plan, the 2nd impact crew and maybe yuis school days. But then again I don't feel the original was lacking because those plots where left mysterious, in fact showing them would most likely ruin them.
Can we finally admit that NGE was shit and never good?
I would have loved a movie/OVA in the vein of episode 21 with that mystery and spy story vibe. It would also have been a more interesting way to explore the lore without dumping it into that PS2 game.
Same.
I think that scene would be much better if she fought like five of those flying things, having that many just makes them seem even less effective than the gunships and tanks in the first movie. Completely impotent even though they're supposed to be these neat psuedo-angels.
3.0 at least was going more towards what the original series was like. This shit is just embarrassing
god please Miyazaki has to animate the full Nausicaa manga before he dies please let it happen
>Misato's VA is pretty and legendary
Ftfy.
I'm now remembering how Kaoru's death scene in 3.0 is almost immediately followed by a shot of Mari's bouncing tits.
Which one of them who farts the most?
It's mostly fanwank for 14 years
>Different films were shown in Tokyo and Paris.
>But that wouldn't mean anything.
based Anno
Sailor Moon, Nico Robin, Lina Inverse, Ritsuko Inoue, and Sailor Uranus.
Anno is deeper than this, so I think that the theory that the film is just a fanfiction parody of itself is accurate.
Literally all the characters are what the banal fanboys always wanted, there's an unironic waifu character, even the elevator scene is different and less abstract.
Anno is going "are you not entertained? Isn't this what you wanted? What, no, you wanted my older stuff?"
And I absolutely think Anno would tank his own films just to spite the fanbase
I didn't like Eva for the sci-fi parts, Eva is about character psychology and its development.
No, because no one knows.
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
Except it does have an entirely new cast. None of the characters have the same depth or development that they got in the tv series. That's what the franchise always did best and made it stand apart from others, not the plot or animation or biomecha stuff. Misato, Ritsuko, Gendo, Kaji, all three (canon) pilots are all shallow cheap immitations of the real things. And then Mari is a complete waste of space designed to push plastic shit on retarded otaku.
Mari is basically Anno shaming otakus.
Stop shilling that fucking video holy shit
Cute
I wonder why people like to suck Anno's dick so much
Because he's a genius director and also autistic so he's relatable
Misato drinks beer nonstop so probably her
that sounds like something a rick and morty fan would say
I just want a NGE anime based on the manga.am I asking too much?
jesus christ how many years has it been?
ANNO
ANNO HAD LET YOU DOWN
YOU'VE BEEN A FOOL TO YOURSELF
I'd say Misato but Rei probably doesn't have the social cues not to
Shes like 30 now, trapped in her 16 year old body and she went to college with Yui, who she was in love with. Those are Yui's glasses.
decisive battle w/ spanish guitar
Yui died in 2004, she'd have to be much older than that
Oh wait I forgot the timeskip in 3.33. Mari is like 45 now.
If people don't get that Anno is making this purely to boost his waifus character popularity, e.g Asuka and just adds old references to fill the gaps, then there's no hope for you.
The train passed.
She should be at around Gendo's age as she refers to him as "Gendo-kun" but due to "eva curse" she's stuck to her 14 years old appearance.
How does it boost Asuka's popularity to have barely any screentime?
She is using her AT-field to gather those flies?
So who left the message?Please don't say Kaji ;_;
I'm back.
it's me
You may have forgotten
yuki.la
Misato
worse than grandpa dying
But Anno’s waifu is Kaworu, not Asuka?
That just sounds like forced fanfiction when it comes to the timeline no matter how you reason it. So she's a super genius like Asuka who was already in college before 14. Then years later after the second impact she is finally 14 when they finally have functioning eva cores, or at least they have captured Lilith and have lcl. Is the secret twist going to be that she was physically over 20 before the curse of the eva was applied to her, and that she is an underdeveloped sexy midget?
But Asuka is one of the worst downgrades between the show and the movies. Retconned past, generic tsundere personality, name change for merch, and she solely exists to orbit Shinji's dick.
>Maybe 3.0 sucking was part of Anno's plan all along.
Why are you giving him the benefit of the doubt? What plan involves a decade of delays?
Nope. She now exist to be local Snake. And a badass female soldier.
Shinji will stay forever alone. He probably doesn't have a dick anymore. Anno likely cut it off along with his balls.
The movie is either going to be fantastic, or it is going to be horrible and fans will blow up like never before. Whichever or will be, I'm looking forward to it.
Jet Alone 2
The secret is that she’s the new Kaji - another double agent, but one tha’ll actually function as Asuka’s true love interest this time around, just to further piss off all of the self-inserting waifufags.
Her crush on Shinji in 2.0 was just a red herring.
Jet Alone should have been the one to save the world.
I mean its really not hard to imagine she volunteered for one of Yui's experiments prior to 2nd impact before they knew the repercussions.
Rebuild after the second movie is just user trolling his audience so they stop pestering him about EVA.
>Third went off on its own story
Third went off The Rails on its own story.
Who even asked for the Rebuilds?
Like, I grew up watching NGE, I think the series was perfect as it was. The Rebuilds not only change the story but also dumb it down and turn it into some stupid blockbuster trash. Was End of Eva not enough for the public that enjoys that kind of trash?
That is someone with really good calligraphy if he wrote it in blood on a hurry.
Pretty sure they are trying to imitate this guy
This, no one is getting the Master's 4D chess at play here, 4.0 is going to be a reconstruction of the deconstruction that was EVa and it's themes to then ironically deconstruct them again subverting expections of all the dishonest otaku that just want cheap fanservice.
That's Mari. It's in the official manga.
How dare you to compare Noriko with Mari? She's nothing like that megane fuck.
I'm digging the blend of Eva and normal technology the new movie has. As if either are slowly becoming biopunk with the loose body parts being used as utility mechanism or they not having enough material to build whole evas and doing what they can.
I admit this part made me laugh hard.
>official manga
>evangelion
Lmao nobody cares, including Anno. And from what I've heard on here she was forced into one of the last chapters of the manga as an afterthought to justify her character's existence.
>If else, we would wish that Noriko is ever featured in Eva.
You made me think about this and how potentially awkward would be considering Noriko's VA and Anno's little background.
I'm willing to bet 4.0 will be 1.0 but in 3.0's setting. Shinji gets into Eva-01 and fights some final mega angel, Mari jobs as usual, Asuka gets mutilated again, and Rei will get out of 01 just to become her Giant Naked self. Then instrumentality happens, world gets reset, and it ends with school scene. Full name of movie will be revealed in the credits, it being "Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0: You can (not) stop" And it will be a tie-in into multiverse gacha game where every player creates their own version of Evangelion story
Who jerks off like that? (Unless it's Misato's panties, of course.)
have you never used a google phone? it is type C connection both sides.
>Eva was supposed to be like the more 'grounded and real' mecha show.
No it wasn't stop making up shit in your head.
You guys would like 4.0 if it was cel animation instead of this CGI poopfeast. The bright ass colors are too damn bright nowadays
It is not canon. Sadamoto himself said in the foreword that he didn't understand Anno's Eva and made his own version (i.e fanfiction-tier).
Because she didn't do the exact same thing. She grabbed a core, not an ascendant Eva. Holding a core =/= turned into core.
THIS OFICIALLY LOOKS STUPID.
That's wrong though. It's literally official.
You don't?
>one-legged runner
But then Kaworu is consciously lying when he claims Shinji is the cause to all of this. Such a good friend
Make her role as an IPEA agent relevant and important somehow. Make the Mrs Small Doll she's talking about the Rei clones from the 3.33 preview etc
This shit again.
>Mrs Small Doll
She very clearly says Wanko-kun and we know exactly who that is. Who translated that?
>But no more Asuka Rei Shinji Misato.
They all will return in some form or another (coff, coff, curse of eva) but Shinji is done. Even Shinji's VA unintentionally gave a spoiler See and read between the lines. There's no more Evangelion for her
>Mrs Small Doll
Not sure where the hell that came from when the French subtitle was clearly masculine "monsieur petit toutou."
I like following the rebuilds for the actual stupid ass plot shit, but goddamn has the action scenes nosedived since 3.0.
Because they want to fap with the waifus and still feel clever while indulging into the same waifu faggotry that everyone else. It's not like evafags give a shit about Anno's projects outside Eva
Either a massive yurifag or a massive Shinji-hater translate this. Probably both
>cgi
>good
> OBSCURE
You don't even try to prove you're not an ape. You took the physics textbook, and complain about the lack of comic strips. What exactly is obscure if the title of the textbook is right there on the cover? If a supposed fan doesn't even understand what it is all about, whose problem it is?
Evangelion is a metaphor for living one's life — “a chauffeur driving your body around” — from the very beginning. You are supposed to put light inside its construction, and see how its rays project outside, onto your “real life”. The opposite happened: anime fans stared inside, and compressed the content into some holy forms. Rebuilds are meta-projects about this, that, and the rest of what has bothered Anno for decades, you shouldn't expect them to simply deliver the regular package of anime experience.
Think about the guy in the theater.
She's getting the superposition upgrade now, Pupper. She can chase you anywhere you go and make her ship happen.
What about zipper on the buttcrack area?
What does it actually say? I hate being misinformed.
>Mari only had two interactions with Shinji
>One of which was nearly killing him via airdrop
>She already has a pet name for him.
>this never happened
still upset
Same buddy
Quite the opposite. If III+:I has a cameo of guy, and a R***-K*** reference, Anno will be able to become a prophet to be remembered in centuries.
Also, Mari=Anno, isn't that obvious?.
evangelion looks like it has a coherent plot , but it's all a bunch of meaningless shit thrown togheter by a hack to hide the fact that he doesn't know how to fucking write so he pretends to do this shit ironically.
it all makes sense now
She is either a Seele or IPEA agent:
In 2.0, Eva-05 firmware bootloader says "IPEA"
in 3.0, she knows about Eva-13 the dual entry plug, that Kaworu swapped the DSS choker, that Eva-13 has a external ejection system and where Shinji was
She likely was referring to Shinji
>3 tries
the dedication
video related
she was probably referring to the audience
But she's already relevant as a SEELE-IPEA/Gendo double agent.
She's literally a waifu version of Kaji and her small interactions with him in 2.0 further support this.
Where to find this translation?
>Asuka, Rei and Misato making a return.
Nah, they're all done too. All of their voice actors are getting older and it's already well-known that Asuka's VA has been having issues with her voice for a while. And in Japan, you can't have characters without their original VAs, so yes; it's going to be truly over for all of them.
Isn’t SEELE dead after Gendo tricked them during the fourth impact?
Good point
Well, Shinji classmates are kinda confirmed - the other Seele's children?
That was an earlier draft of this
wiki.evageeks.org
They're getting out, Mitsuishi is already supposed to be quasi-retired and Ogata just started an agency or something.
Reminder that the master is playing mindgames with all of you
Of course, he always does this. We just don't know what his futuer mind games will manifest into.
I don't know why the legs sticking out of two of those robot things makes me laugh. It's just a "why?" kind of thing and it looks so silly
>main focus in these movies is the sci-fi jargon and whatever symbolism and narrative themes surround it
That the "main focus" is a jumbled, unfocused mess of half-baked and uninspired sci-fi gobbledygook really says a lot about these shitty films. I don't remember 1.11 giving off this feel.
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I also expect Giant Naked Rei to be changed to Giant Clothed JSSDF Soldier, acted by guess whom in cosplay PSG-style. Then it is revealed it was season two all along.
What was wrong with the music in the preview?
>I don't remember 1.11 giving off this feel.
You can get the feeling that something's off in 1.11 within the very first 20 minutes or so. The changes and alterations are very subtle, but they're definitely there.
It becomes especially apparent in its finale scene, with Kaworu waking up on the moon.
Rebuild's Mass production evas are always playing off of evangelion 13's gig in that it seems like each unit is comprised of 2 "souls" or "entities" that are synchronizing in unison in order to function. You could even say the might be soulless "dummyplug" copycats of the original eva 13.
It's probably a sequel. Shinji/Rey is resetting the universe until he finds happiness.
Kawrou at least seems to realize they're stuck in a loop based on his statements
Pic related is an example of the whole "duo souls working together as one entity" concept going on with eva 13 and the mass production units.
It's ShinjixAsuka
isnt it obvious though, this is Annos victory lap, he changed the medium of animation for ever, but in the process he made himself suicidal by putting so much work and thought into EVA, it made the original eva what it was, but now that hes a rich man his stories are going to reflect that more, just go along for the ride, dont take it too seriously.
>You can get the feeling that something's off in 1.11 within the very first 20 minutes or so. The changes and alterations are very subtle, but they're definitely there.
Umm no? That's just your fringe interpretation which can only exist after watching and digesting 3.33 for years. Nobody who saw the first 20 minutes of 1.11 was expecting to end up with 3.33 as a sort of organic follow-up to events in 1.11, even with Kaworu on the moon.
I think he only meant if you watch the original Eva and jump straight to 1.11, you'll notice it's not a 1 for 1 copy of the first 7 episodes like some people claim it is. No one expected all the changes / ending of 2.22 or the entirety of 3.33
>2019
>still not realizing the rebuilds have no story
>still not realizing the main point is to push asuka and kaworu
>still not realizing the point was to ruin Rei
Sheep.
Anno is always two steps ahead. You are lagging behind.
You're both wrong, the entire franchise is basically a Devilman knockoff where Kaworu is desperately trying to hook up with Shinji so that they can finally be happy together and end the cycle for good.
>push Asuka
>when Anno himself has stated that Rebuild's Asuka is such a shallow bastardization of her original self that she's now a completely new character altogether.
You're partially right in that it exists to push Kaworu in a more positive light, however.
>tfw woke up this morning and the end of 2.22 was on my firestick stream that I was watching last night
>got to hear that sweet little song as shinji tries to rescue rei and misato cheers him on
didn't even get out of bed until the credits started
As expected of the The Master
I want Anno to kill off Shinji and pair KaworuxAsuka together
I just wanted 4.0 to be an adaptation of Retake so we could all have our happy endings
That's a dirty Korean pairing, LAS forever
Hang yourself EvaMonkey
You just might get your wish
>EvaMonkey
Do 4zoomers even know about EvaMonkey?
>not pushing Asuka
>giving her super powers
>removing all her problems
>gives her ton of action girl scenes
>lets her walk all over everyone else
Anno also never said that, but it's true. But that's the price of popularity, because Asuka was fundamentally shit originally.
>forcing Asuka with a canonical dicklet voiced by a tranny on Netflix™
Didn't he create Evageeks, the biggest Asukafag site out there?
He's fucking based for thinking the best character for Asuka is Kaworu.
Ahead of you maybe. You people eat up everything as long as it has enough tits and ass.
>because Asuka was fundamentally shit originally.
Remember when Rei vanished for the whole middle portion of the TV show and then got her role in EoE taken over by Kaworu
Those were the good times
>Do 4zoomers know about loud cancer*
>Didn't he create Evageeks, the biggest Asukafag site out there?
Should I care? He knows about as much about Evangelion as any halfway decent fan and reports on other peoples work. He's basically just an irl namefag. Get of his dick, faggot.
That never happened.
>That never happened.
>Anno - "The truth is, I have no emotional attachment to Rei at all.
In the midst of making Eva, I suddenly realized that I had forgotten her. Her very existence. For example, in episode seven, I remembered and added one shot with Rei. I had no attachment to her at all. I think that was okay, because in episode eight, she didn't appear. Not even in a single shot.
Episode 6 was too early.
At the end Rei says "I don't know what to do," and Shinji says, "I think you should smile," and Rei smiles. ... Afterwards, when I thought about it, I cursed. In short, if she and Shinji completely "communicated" there, then isn't she over with? At that moment, Rei, for me, was finished.
When she smiled, she was already finished, this character."
Reminder that Asuka and Kaworu are the two most popular characters in Japan AND in America.
They're also Anno's waifu and husbando respectively.
He'll pair them up together because it will make him the most money.
No, cause Rei was there for every single ep since 1.
Asuka got introduced in like episode 7 or 8 or so.
Kaworu not until episode 24.
Kaworu only makes a cameo in EoE and barely has four lines, while Rei has a ton and is a major part of the plot.
While Asuka gets massacred like a loonie.
No wonder no one liked Asuka back in the day.
In real life, Rei was present in the show for every ep regardless if Anno says he forgot or not.
Real life > your imagination.
>2187 vs 252
>your imagination.
kek stupid toiletfag
You clearly forget where you are
Not that Reifag you're replying to, but this makes me wonder if Anno was finished with Asuka after the very last finale scene in EoE too.
That would explain why she's a completely different character and a shell of her former self in the Rebuilds, at least.
So we're not getting End of Eva 2 then?
imagine the size of anno's complex
Remember when this happened?
Reminder that if you didn't like 3.0 but loved 2.0, you're a brainlet waifufag weeb.
Stay mad.
>Pointing out an obvious fact makes you a Reifag now
Holy hell, the evageeeks cult is out strong today.
Well yeah everything was finished with One More Final, Rebuild is just a cynical cashgrab
i really, really, like rei
Reminder that if you didn't like 3.0 but loved 2.0, you're a brainlet waifufag weeb.
Reminder that at the Eva 3.0 showing at Anime Expo on Saturday, the entire crowd cheered EVERY TIME Kaworu and Asuka appeared on screen.
They were SILENT when characters like Shinji, Rei, Mari, and Misato showed up.
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The Khara staff that were present noticed this.
Best girl demolishing the competition
All is right with the world
Well duh. The whole point of the Rebuilds is to promote the two.
hahaha, no.
See THAT is the end goal of Anno
>remade cope version of worst girl in NGE
>all competition removed
>still just popular within the eva fanboy circles
>this is all right
Pyrrhic victory you have there.
I suspect Shinji will kill everyone this time. Because of the waifufags who still haven't got the message.
>demolishing the competition
What competition?
Well of course they would cheer for them and not for Rei Q, the Rei Q in 3.0 wasn't the real Rei at all.
The real Rei will make a return in the next movie.
Not even an Evageeks fag; I don't consider Asuka to be best girl either.
It's literally this isn't it
>Shinji will kill everyone
Everyone? Does that include Anno?
Shinji joining Gendo would redeem Rebuild
But he already went full Gendo in 2.0 when he almost nuked the entire world in order to save Rei?
Exactly, it's gone.
Do absolutely nothing. Her remaining as terrible a character as she is now makes great argument against the Rebuilds in general.
I ahve not seen any of the rebuilds as they seem like cashins.
What is this shit even about?
If the original series didn't exist would people care about rebuilds?
>this retarded evageeks nonsesne again
Sucking Anno's dick hard aren't you?
People should be banned from the internet for using their old 64 kbps MP3s when they make new media.
The Master is already living rent free in your head.
It's about Anno compensating for Rei beating Asuka in the 90's in the anime character popularity game.
This:
in two panels explains it all.
He's currently set up a storyline that begins roughly where the original began, but then makes Shinji save Rei which destroys the world. Why nobody knows, and for some reason everyone hates Shinji now, for having saved Rei.
Rei is written out and turned into a doll, Asuka gets super strength and glowing eyes, Kaworu is some looper eternal entity which knows everything and gets a whole movie.
No, they're bad, they assume that you've already seen the original show to understand them and don't even bother with character developpement
They range from mediocre to bad, the high-point is probably the remade Ramiel battle.
If you are a big Eva fan you should probably watch them just for completions sake
....I think the guy is pathetic, and you're referring to him as "The Master".
You part of some cult?
Wow, what a shocker. Japs eat up character stereotypes that are currently "hot" like the modern type tsundere (which Asuka is in rebuilds) and white-haired Gary Stu homo bishounen. Who would have ever thought.
>Rei is written out and turned into a doll, Asuka gets super strength and glowing eyes, Kaworu is some looper eternal entity which knows everything and gets a whole movie.
How is this a bad thing? The best boy and girl get cooler and the worst girl gets worse. I see no problem.
The Euro Nerv team that was trying to stop the barrier 14 years ago probably
>Not even an Evageeks fag; I don't consider Asuka to be best girl either.
Well then you'd know perfectly well that Rei was present all over the original, and the desperate Asukafag is reaching with an interview that he doesn't even read correctly.
> the guy is a prophet
Fits the Master better.
Actually not off the table. Fuyutsuki's complaints are all about the methods Gendo wants to use, he seems to think that the real agenda is something Shinji could possibly accept if Gendo told him the plan and asked him to participate.
It's set up to be like this though. There's no other characters to care for. This thing is Anno's entire end goal, to create mindless morons like It's just otaku-pandering, call it what it is.
>he has never seen Extra curricular lessons with Hideaki Anno
How_new.ru
He's already at that point, see , he just wasn't deliberating about it like Gendo does. He's already got the Ikari autism. Taking up his father's role would reinforce the theme of cyclical universe repetition that's already pretty strong in Eva.
>Rei is written out and turned into a doll, Asuka gets super strength and glowing eyes, Kaworu is some looper eternal entity which knows everything and gets a whole movie.
What the hell. That seems like insane poorly written fan fiction.
It happenned, In the third movie that Uniform can be seen in Nerv HQ, so it´s hinted it happenned at least, just like the other stuff in the preview
It goes deeper. Anno's new Rebuilds specifically set out to bring down the #1 girl, Rei. Like the entire world going to hell is blamed on Shinji, the mc self-insert liking Rei too much.
Basically Anno is saying "you like Rei too much, fuck you Shinji, like Asuka and Kaworu instead".
>they assume that you've already seen the original show to understand them
I don't believe this to be the case regarding the plot because the lore in RoE is COMPLETELY different than NGE. Seriously, it's not even close to being the same thing. Those two shows shouldn't be even discussed in the same thread because it's just creating pointless confusion. Although RoE does the exact same thing as NGE did - purposefully obfuscates huge chunks of the lore to appear "mysterius" and deep. We'll just wait for some extra metarial info dump in a few years for the thing to make sense and call it a day.
On the other hand when it comes to the characters, this might be true because rebuild characters could never stand on their own and not be called completely generic corporate products.
She is talking about Shinji calling him puppy
Thats a wrong translation Its overlapping directly from the japanese, she is talking about making 8+2
It is. Made to appease the fans of Asuka and Kaworu like you see here: They'll come raging in any time now, as they don't like this being pointed out. (spoils the immersion)
But he did?
Do I believe in the Evageeks fanwankery bullshit that Rei is supposed to be a demoralizing stand-in for shitty otaku who can't let go of their fictional waifus? No. Hell no.
If anything, I honestly believe Shinji and Rei's relationship is the complete opposite of that in 2.0 and that Anno is not only playing 4D chess with the fanservice-crabingwaifufags, but with the pretentious Evageeks-level meta analysts who're all into Eva being some sophisticated deconstruction as well.
But he did almost unintentionally initiate 4th impact in his attempts to save her. That is canon fact.
Anno literally wrote out the original Rei, and added a new clone Rei which is so retarded she can't even define normal words in the every day vocabulary.
It's beyond insane.
It depends on what you want from the characters. You can make the argument that roe Asuka is completely flat and superficially "cool" which can ruin the character for some of her fans. On the other hands the masses typically eat that kind of shit up.
Those "fans" don't exist as evidenced by the fact that the Asuka fandom is the happiest it's ever been, and on top of every poll.
The handful of fans who liked Asuka for character can simply just shrug and enjoy the new content anyway.
>Exactly, it's gone.
It was never there to begin with.
Well, that further depends on what you mean by initiating it doesn't it? Shinji doesn't initiate anything, there's no button or knowledge he has about initiating it.
Starting an impact is a hidden feature in the EVA he's using that can be activated by simply using it. Did the elevator guy who sent Shinji to the surface start third impact, did the guy who installed and set up EVA01 to make impacts start it?
We're dealing with a set-up here so the point of initiating something becomes instantly moot.
It's like Shinji stepped on a land-mine, where no one would expect one like in his home or at his workplace, and in that sense, sure. Shinji "initiated it", but it's a really dishonest way of putting it.
Well, Rei was turned into a moe moe waifu and then killed off at the end of 2.0. In Terms of character writing every single pilot character save for Shinji has been butchered. Just some were given superficial cool characteristics to compensate and some dodn't.
Rebuild butchers everyone, so it's pointless to complain in that regard.
And Asukafags just like to shitpost to get on Reifags nerves, it's always been like that
Shinji punching Gendo would redeem the entire franchise.
Fairly sure every poll beating Asuka into the ground with Rei on top proves you wrong buddy.
Don't listen to the likes of who is simply an Asukafag trying to minimize what's happened by claming the butchering was "equal".
It's entirely lopsided in terms of character treatment, as if right outside a butthurt Asukafag fanfic.
just imagine you're listening to it through shinji's cassette player
how new r u
>If the original series didn't exist would people care about rebuilds?
probably not, the only thing that makes the rebuilds cohesive at all is you're able to fill in all the gaps with stuff from the OG series. If the first 3 rebuilds were released as stand alone projects and 90s eva didn't exist, people wouldn't have a fucking clue what was happening in the rebuilds because so much content is skipped. Seriously, these Rebuild movies are a complete fucking mess and the only way you can make sense of it or enjoy them at all is with full knowledge of the original series
Going back to the plot for a second. I don't think the final is going to go back to the EoE because as far as we know events of that movie have pretty much already happened. This time around we can observe an after-Third Impact world and human conflict within it. There is one thing though, SEELE's myserious plans seems to continue as predicted by the dead sea scrolls apparently and Gendo has read it. That's why he's always "according to keikaku", he literally nkows what's going to happen and allows Misato make her moves because he's read about it in the DSS. This would suggest that everything that happens after the Impact is also part of the prophecy, that there is more to it.
That's retarded. Rebuilds don't have plot, only "muh waifu asuka" and "fuck Rei".
Waifufaggotry is one hell of a drug.
Evangelion is practically an eternal mess now because of Anno's psychosis, caused by his waifu Asuka not beating Rei in the polls.
Don't worry user, Netflix will pick the series and rebooting in glorious CGI. Like they did with Los Caballeros del Zodiaco.
Was generic garbage that clashed with everything
>literally married an Asuka proxy
God bless his soul
Asukafags are sick fucks.