What's Yea Forums's opinion of Jar-Jar Mari?

What's Yea Forums's opinion of Jar-Jar Mari?

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>mari died on the way back to her home planet

Even she is better waifu material than Asuka.

I like boobs.

She's a funnier character than we've ever had.

Mari’s the key to all of this, if we can get her working

Hot super robot pilot wasted on a shitty 2deep4u circlekerk. She should have been the MC of Gunbuster S3, but y'all just couldn't let Gainax continue a GOOD series.

Comparing the Rebuilds to the Star Wars prequels is such an elegant thing to do, because both are loathed by the supposed "fans" of the original and yet both serve no purpose other than to point towards issues within the originals.

People really dislike the prequels, because they don't want to accept the reality they present. The Jedi are not an order of wise monks but a group of delusional old men, who have significant political influence. The republic had many similar issues to the empire, the only difference was the illusion of democracy.
Really, the interesting thing about these films is their politics, because they are really allegory for Hitler's rise to power. I understand that this might not be what the supposed "fans" wanted. The "fans" wanted a story with lots of glowy sword fights and spaceships shooting at stuff instead of a dry political drama about trade disputes.
The prequels are incredibly interesting, but their detractors just wanted a different thing.

In that sense, the Rebuilds are exactly the same.
They do something exciting, but the people who are most vocal about them don't like they, because the thing these films do is not what they wanted.

Mari doesn't fit in Gunbuster, especially not in the protagonist slot. She doesn't seem to give a shit about really anything.

Mari will be the big bad in 5.55

This but unironically.

The prequels are good though.

The Rebuilds are equivalent to the sequel trilogy.

>5.55

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The sequels are quite good too, though.
The cinematography and set design in TLJ was something else, they took a page out of Suzuki Seijun's book and it was absolutely amazing.
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Interesting how the rebuilds are the complete antithesis the the prequels in terms of tone and subject matter while essentially being the same thing, as you described.

A brilliant way to bait both the waifutards and the yuriniggers into buying more toys

The point I am making is that the same thing is happening with them in the process of viewing them.
The prequels show things the people who liked the original films didn't want, the rebuilds do the same thing. They are disliked, not because they are bad films, but because they are not pandering.

I like it.

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I got your point. I was just making a small observation.

>The prequels are good though.
>The sequels are quite good too, though.

>realizes I'm in the retard eva thread

Sorry, I was looking for the eva thread for people with actual taste and cerebral activity. I'll see myself out.

Tell me why either of them are bad, I'd love to hear about it.
Revenge of the Sith is the best Star Wars film followed by Empire Strikes Back and The Last Jedi.

The embodiment of Anno's conflicting nature of both hating his own fanbase and simultaneously trying to milk them as much as possible. If I actually liked the rebuilds I would be really mad about her character, but I hate them so she fits right in.

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I just wanted to say you have great taste my brother.

I'm about 86% sure she's Shinji's daughter.

she's a great character that belongs in a different show

back to Yea Forums my friend, go complain about the feminazis

People didn't realize the sequels were good until years after the fact. I know you won't admit it, but chances are you were one of the many people who hated them at the time, and changed your mind latter.

In a few years, Rebuild will be the same. People will have gotten over their disappointment and consider them on their own merits.

it is a FACT not an opinion that she makea my peepee harder than diamonds

They will never end the series. Never.

Mari's a shit character, but she drains my balls easily. Perfect fapbait and that's it.

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She's a vacuum sucking all life and soul out of Evangelion as an obvious marketing ploy. They're trying so hard to make her "unique" and otherworldly to the eva universum, but it comes off forced and awkward, full of lowest common denominator pandering. Her design is bland, her quirks are cringy and her writing is cursory with surface level relationships to other characters.
In short, pretty JARring.

She works for me as long as Asuka is involved.

That works too, but I have a slight preference towards Mari on her own

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How do you fap to that? She's boring as fuck, she looks like a british slag that a creatively-drained jap stapled double Ds onto. Her character design does not fit into nge, she has a know it all condescending personality but at the same time no impact on the plot, every scene she's in is ruined. So many potentially good doujins were lost because the retarded artists felt the need to include her or use anything from rebuild at all.

Did you miss the whole "she's a shit character" bit? Of course she's boring as fuck but I won't deny she has an alluring design that is wasted on such a one-note character.

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>alluring design
What is alluring about her design? Seriously this is the most plain, blandest shit EVA has ever come up with. Boring, brown, flat hair hanging down her face, ugly glasses, too many hair decs, ugly fashion style. Her plugsuit sucks too. There is nothing alluring about her, she's repulsive.

Forgot to mention her ugly horse face.

She desecrates the eva plugsuit mate. Even from the perspective of trying to push plastic shit it's still so boring.

Okay

All the new plugsuits suck imo. It's all about the swishy-swooshy teeth-like patterns on them and it's just too much. The old ones with more oval shapes were neater.

I want to have threesome with her and Misato.

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She shouldn't eat nothing but whipped cream, actually she looks very hot and dehydrated. Is she getting enough fluids?

I hate EVA so Mari is my favorite character.

I don't know, user, her good friend here is looking mighty strained by her yoga routine. They both look thirsty though.

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There was a manga about asuka and shinji directly after EoE and in every single thread i have asked where a link is, and in every single thread without fail there has been no link. As god as my witness i will have that link to the manga. Does anyone know where it is?

Isn't it just the epilogue of the NGE manga?

Dude chill out

I'm pretty sure it's fan made but it could be what you're describing.

fuck no

Are you talking about Epilogue of Evangelion?
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yeah i think so thanks

I think this is what you wanted. t's called Re-take. I think this is the uncensored version. Enjoy, I suppose.
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It was the producer's idea and Anno basically gave up at finding a role for her

Bullshit. Anno is the founder and head of khara and the director of the rebuilds. He's an old man with decades in the industry who doesn't have to take shit from anyone. If he didn't want something in the movies then it wouldn't have been put in.

He might not like her, but he's also smart enough to realize that megane with big tits sells merch.

It's true. Otsuki wanted a new female pilot for selling merchandise. It's a well-documented fact. Anno's heart was never on Rebuild. He just want to have fun with his toys (toku movies, toku museum) and helping young animators (Japan Animator Expo)

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I agree with that, it's more or less what I said in my original post. He doesn't care about the project or his fans, he just wants money off of a classic franchise that should have gracefully died years ago. You were implying Anno was somehow the victim as if his creative dream was ruined by people he could tell to fuck off whenever he wanted.

Asuka's waifu

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Save your time and energy and don't read it. It's trash.

Why would they need another female pilot when Asuka and Rei already sell like crazy? They're the cream of the crop and don't need help to move merch.

>'people' still don't get that the rebuilds are sequels

She's meant to bolster Asuka's popularity by attracting the yurifags to her.

Is Mari is Jar Jar, who's Rose?

This is an extremely insightful post.

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Fifth best girl. I like the chipper, bloodthirsty persona and then the serious tone when she's just thinking out loud to herself.

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>Sorry, I was looking for the eva thread for people with actual taste and cerebral activity. I'll see myself out
Why the fuck would you expect to find that in an EVA thread let alone one after the Netfix dub

Rebuilds are exactly like the prequels in that in both cases the creators have begun to second-guess themselves and feel it is their duty to give the fans what they think they want; i.e. lightsaber duels, robot battles and Boba Fett.

I liked her more when I realized she was probably named after Marie from Nadia.


She would have made more sense in a show that have backup B team pilots if you know what I mean.

She might have been more tolerable without the association to pink, it's just not a color that works well alongside Eva designs.

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Where the fuck is Boba Fett and lightsabers in Rebuild Anno you fucking hack

Anno isn't the god incarnate ignorant fans think he is, he can't bring everything to the table so he relies a lot on other creators when directing.

Waifus, Kaworu and aforementioned robot battles

I dislike her inclusion in the rebuilds....but I am wondering if Anno did it again, and this is exactly how I am supposed to feel?

She reminds me of a shitty fan-fic self-insert character, who has too much meta knowledge of the franchise, is suddenly part of the main cast even though no one knows where they came from, is "in the know" about all the characters secrets, ect ect

So yea, she's essentially fanfiction.net as a character, a form of wish fulfillment, which is once again something Anno is trying to tell the Otaku audience to grow up about.

So I dislike her, but she may in fact be a genius creation.

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I like it.

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The real big bad of 5.55

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He hates his fanbase, except for all of the times he thanks his fans for sticking by him, goes on record about how he hates outsiders attacking otaku, how he himself is an otaku, and has only really been negative to them in regards to telling them that even if they hate the TV ending, too fucking bad, and that Asuka is canon best girl.
The idea that he hates Evangelion fans is and has always been false, but people who try to say Evangelion is a metaphor for how he hates Otaku will extrapolate that message no matter what it actually is.

Mari was Sadamoto making himself a waifu when the producers needed a new Eva girl for the Rebuild marketing tie-ins, after Misato had aged out of marketability.
It was obvious that Mari was fap material for Sadamoto, when he crowbarred Mari into the Eva manga with the terrible bonus chapter in the last volume of the Eva manga.

WTF? THERE'S ANOTHER EVA GIRL?

pure waifu bait, a net detriment to the Rebuild movies

Its PenPen
Ever notice he has been missing through all of 3.0? He is obviously behind everything. Its why Misato is so bitter.

t. brainlet

It's not as good as the Eva-05 suit, but those colors look wrong on a suit styled like the other plugsuits, and these other palettes are just ugly or don't suit her uncovered hair and glasses.

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10/10.

She's evidence that the "Curse of the Eva" is just LCL manipulation.

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But the prequels weren't good, they're mostly bad with a few decent ideas thrown in.

You know she'd deserve a red suit, but Asuka already got that one, so she settled for the slutty pink suit, which makes it even hotter. Mari a best.

I like the more militarized suit.

>Misato had aged out of marketability.
Fucking bullshit, Japan, how the hell is that the truth. Misato is practically a secondary main character, but they don't like her because she's at worst, what, early 30s? Absolute no taste in that country, hot damn.

Post Mari lewds.

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You literally are retarded and don't know what you're even posting.

He probably fucking died of old age

Dude she is genius. How the fuck does she know Gendo if she's not some fucking isekai protagonist? Anno foresaw anime trends years in advance

>the creators have begun to second-guess themselves
No, they really haven't.
Both are distinct and have a clear identity and clear contrast to the previous work.

Lucas did not give the people what they wanted in the slightest. You think the audiences wanted "Jar Jar parties like it's 1933"? You think the audiences wanted trade disputes and an ambiguous world where the Jedi aren't really the good guys, but the alternative is worse?
No. Audiences wanted more magic space samurai shit, more spaceships, more black and white morality. They didn't want something more complex.

That's why people were mad about them.

Who da man? Yoda man.

Even if they revealed Mari is literally SEELE cloned and fused into one person or a hundred years old, it wouldn't change a thing. At this point it'd just be yet another gimmick or a plot device. Her character does not resonate emotionally with the audience so nobody would care anyway. If she died gruesomely, nobody would care either, except for a few shipperfags.

I can't judge an incomplete work, especially something that is notorious for needing to pour over every detail.

Post mari bouncing tiddies gifs

The movies didn't lay any groundwork to make people care about Mari on any significant level, forcing it into the last movie is too little too late. NGE made sure you cared about each and every character before it did something to them by carefully developing the characters and their relationships throughout the series, but Mari? Who even cares about her? Asuka? Maybe a little. Any other friendships or important relationships? Nope, none. Thus nobody is going to get hurt if she dies or whatever, no reason to worry about her. There's zero stakes.

They've already hinted that she knows the original Gehirn crew. Besides, I think you can only judge the Rebuilds and the characters in relation to the other iterations.

Specifically, I mean time loops. This picture shows the four previously opened containers.

The anime
The manga
??? (Death and Rebirth?)
Anima
Rebuilds

If that's true, then the characters are literally all the same, they're just living the same lives over and over. To your point, Mari's introduction in the manga is the groundwork.

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why are people still arguing with "muh manga" when Sadamoto said it was just him fucking around?

Because that's pretty much the entirety of the series; doesn't mean they can't work it into a semi-coherent plot after the fact like they did with everything else.

Hell, that's probably why it's been so long since 3.0.

This is the most far-fetched bullshit theory I've read in a while.

Thank you.

anyone who reads this deeply into the nonsene that is Evangelion deserves to have their time wasted.

Does part 4 even have a release date? He said next year in 2013, fat chance you'll ever see it at all

Its far more feasible that shot just implies Kaworu is mass produced like Rei, or that those are for other manufactured pilots.

Episode 1 was kinda painful though.
The other two were a little better, but Anakin is even more insufferable.

This implies he's familiar with Shinji's behavior in the past, especially as this is immediately preceded by his his "rescue" of Rei.

The prequels are terrible, they're just coherent with Lucas' style and vision. The Disney films lack that for a variety of reasons, not the least of which are arrogance and the lack of talent. That doesn't retroactively fix or excuse the myriad of problems with Episodes I, II, & III.

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She'd make a pretty good Jung Freud/Diebuster popsicle lolibitch, which is more or less what she is in the Rebuilds.

Can someone, unironically and sincerely, explain me what's her role, importance or weight in the story?

Aside from being hot and having cool scenes, she's like just there unless Im missing something.

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Money.

In a less cynical sense, she's supposed to be Mana Kirishima but an Eva pilot: someone who knows what's going on, is more adult than the other Eva kids, and wholeheartedly enjoys what she does. She's trying to do Things behind the back of SEELE, NERV and Kaji.

She fills in emotionally for Kaji and Misato to Shinji, while taking Hikari's spot as Asuka's girl bestie. She also provides the fanservice/stranger in a strange show feeling Asuka did when she was first introduced. She's fun Asuka to Shikinami's bitchy Asuka.

>She fills in emotionally for Kaji and Misato to Shinji, while taking Hikari's spot as Asuka's girl bestie.
And she's terrible at all of those things. Mari is like a weird bystander or a sports commentator, she's not really involved with anybody.

It's almost as if she has an ulterior agenda and has been working at it the entire time.

It actually will be Anno

The incarnation of everything that is wrong with Rebuild

She's also a shit character who doesn't work in the story. The hardest thing with rebuilds is to give a shit about Mari.

Neither was Kaji until Misato stopped being tsundere and shacked up with him again.

Her establishing scene has her doing the Kaji thing to Kaji; seeming like a bystander is kind of the point. She also consistently takes an interest in making Shinji more of a man, also like Kaji. Mari is fuckable Kaji. When you see her as fuckable Kaji, everything she does makes sense. It's voodoo spy shit, like Kaji's voodoo spy shit.

The problem with Mari is that she is not one of the OGs. She's completely outside the original Eva canon, even if you could joke that she's the VN bitches (Mana Kirishima and Mayumi Yamagishi) combined. Given what Maya Sakamoto said about her "destroying old Eva", the alienation is intentional. With something that has so much fandom autism as Eva, intentionally alienating the fans gets you, well, this thread.

We can't really say that until the story's over.

No, we can say that after 3/4 of the story. A character who's shit 3/4 of the runtime is not going to miraculously become good, not with everything else going on.

Making these movies was a mistake. Without the original series you would have little to no connection with the characters because they are given a fraction of the amount of time that they need for the audience to get attached to them. Take Misato for instance, in the series her attachment and relationship with Shinji is given much more weight because it has more time on the screen. Same with Asuka whose entire arc can't be done in Rebuild because she is introduced in the second movie along with Mari and a bunch of other bullshit. But all of this can mostly be filled in with what the audience already knows, but without that you'd feel nothing for these characters. And it gets worse with the third movie where the cast gets wiped out and is basically revamped entirely along with everything else. So it is basically like the last two movies didn't even fucking matter. It really isn't surprising why it has taken so long to wrap this shit up, they went in such a radically new direction half way through thinking it might open up new avenues for the story to go but in the end they just wrote themselves into a corner and now they are trying to work their way out.
And I'm still not convinced this isn't some LCL world recreation by Shinji trying to fix everything after EoE which would be such a fucking terrible twist that it almost feels inevitable. Anno should have just made his Godzilla movie and then gone into retirement.

She wasn't introduced until 2.0 and she's a supporting character. They don't have the time or need to delve into her backstory like they did with the other supporting cast in the show.

She's a poor man's Kaji. With Kaji you could actually see him work the network and contribute to the events not just as a passive observer. Kaji didn't seem above everything else or a special untouchable snowflake. He had history with Misato and therefore some emotional hook, he had good connetion with the pilots. Mari is literally a dry husk of each and every character she tries to replace.

Then there was no point in introducing her. Her role could have been split between already existing ones, but since they did decide to go with her, then they should have put some actual work into this character. Nothing she ever says or does from this point on is ever going to feel genuine no matter shat she reveals. She is only ever going to be a plot device and that is unavoidable.

There is no artistic reason to include Mari in Rebuild it's a purely commercial decision

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>Nothing she ever says or does from this point on is ever going to feel genuine no matter shat she reveals.
This is your subjective, biased viewpoint.

He's right though.