Deku is the worst shounen protagonist of the last 10 years

>For all his whining about wanting to be a hero, had done NOTHING to actually make it reality. No training, no learning martial arts or even first aid/emergency skills, he did nothing but fantasize

>Only starts trying when the world's most powerful quirk falls directly into his lap and he becomes the direct student of the world's #1 hero, who basically devotes his time to training him alone

>Is so bad at using the quirk he can't control it at all, either mutilates himself or has to use only the tiniest fraction of it's power, takes him months to realize basic concepts such as "you can attack with parts of your body other than your fists" and "maybe get gear to help you protect yourself"

>Wins all his fights with a combination of pure recklessness and the sheer overwhelming power of his quirk allowing it to bail him out time and again

>For all his talk, he doesn't work any harder than the other students of his class, but he recieves more reward because all he actually has to do to become the most powerful person alive is just learn to use the power he already has, whereas everyone has to evolve their quirks and polish new techniques

>As if this wasn't enough, on top of potentially being a nearly invulnerable god of pure power at least as strong as AM, he now has half a dozen new, powerful, unrelated quirks on top of it, just to rub it in that he is the destined chosen one and nobody else can compete


Jesus christ, it's the end of Naruto all over again. the MC becomes the absolute uncontested best, not because of his work or actions, but because the power of a god was simply handed to him on a silver platter. Remember kids:

Hard work doesn't matter unless you were born better than everyone else. if you aren't incredibly naturally gifted, don't bother trying unless you somehow become gifted.

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Cope, Dekufag

Nope

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You were right until
>Hard work doesn't matter unless you were born better than everyone else. if you aren't incredibly naturally gifted, don't bother trying unless you somehow become gifted.

Shouto would be a better protag.

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he's right though. there are countless aspiring professional athletes that bust their balls but never make it simply because they didn't win the genetic lottery.

How am I wrong?

That's exactly what happened. Deku did jack shit with his big dreams because he wasn't born with power. As soon as he got great power, suddenly he's all hard work and "grr muh starting line"

Before he got the best quirk dropped in his lap, he refused to do anything to make himself even half-viable as a hero.

The better Deku

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Wait... You weren't talking about IRL?

The real protagonist of his series

The manga would be way better if the concept was about the protagonist having a weak or useless quirk but using ingenuity to make it work.

Oh wait that’s Vigilantes, the superior spin off.

no, absolutely not. Lee was just a fucking dork an eternal virgin. Deku has girls on his dick. The only people that like lee were perma virgins just like him other than that no one liked him

Doesn't change the fact Deku is a whiny little beta who didn't lift a finger for his own dream till someone came in and dropped the ultimate god quirk right into his lap.

Lee never had jack shit handed to him, he earned everything he ever got.

Both are powerless but Rock Lee trained to be strong while Deku was given a power.

only perma virgins like lee ( in the anime no one liked him either at all not one female.)
deku, has at least two girls on his cock without even trying (lee had to jump on sakura with flowers still got rejected by everyone rofl)
lee is also a faggot and only liked by similar faggots. So let me guess you have had like sex once right?

Not just A power, but the strongest of all known powers that made it's previous holder the world's #1 hero

All he has to do is learn how to use it properly and he instantly becomes the most powerful person in the world

Deku is the smart realistic one we would be, Lee was that mentally retarded kid that everyone felt sorry for and got a little baby training power that everyone knew but let the kid be the best at since Lee is too shit to learn better stuff than just training wheel abilities.

You like lee because you can see yourself in that eternal virgin that has zero girls interested in him and just a fucking dork that should neck himself

Virgin blah blah blah. They're both virgins. Stop changing the topic bec you can't defend Deku 's uselessness.

did you watch naruto virgin boy? No girl or even guy liked rock lee. Deku has two girls actually 3 all over him. Rock lee was fucking retarded. deku actually is intelligent. Again watch these anime before you try to argue brainlet. also the only people that are fans of rock lee are dorks just like him because they can relate to the perma virgin that has no love interest

t.rock lee is awsome (i've had sex once in my life)

hey op hang yourself, virgin

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>u-ur a virgin
The absolute state of Dekufags.

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nope thats yuma

No one cares fag. Discussion is about their powers, not sex life.

>May I announce a statement?!
>OP has never had SEX!

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samefagging

Just read the spin-off

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Consider the following: hang yourself

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>thinking about Deku's dick
t. homo

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deku wasn't THAT bad until O MY 9 QUIRKS

>kacchan please fuck my wife. getting my quirk shrunk my dick and I've never pleased her, please pound her with your gigantic dong

Damn straight

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aw yeee

MHA fans don't even respect Deku lol.

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too bad this would never happen virgin
*scrolls down*

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>ochako sent me a video I wonder what it is

kill yourself

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>resident underage dekufag calls anyone that doesn't agree with him a self-inserting virgin
>while at the same time, obsessing over how Deku is so smart and has a big dick, just like him
lmao, just lmao

Hahaha axed soon MHATARD

you're wrong, it do be like that sometime

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>be like that
white people...

god i want to fuck deku no homo

We already know this and the mods are going to delete this thread because you hurt their feelings.

based

Ide like a whatif side story told. Like a chapter or 2 were Deku doesnt get any powers and all might gives it to tintin. Be neat to just see Deku come to terms with himself and become like a cop or something. But that wont happen.

>deku no homo

That actually sounds like a Japanese name.

デクノホモ

It's sarcasm

>the MC becomes the absolute uncontested best, not because of his work or actions
>but because the power of a god was simply handed to him on a silver platter
So just like every other shounen mc and most fictional characters in every media, EVER.
What's with these dumb kids these days that they think they sound smart and clever by stating most obvious things?

>Deku has girls on his dick
And Bakugo's dick inside him.

these are shonentards we're dealing with. you expect them to be capable of thinking anything the show itself doesn't outright tell them, or critically think about anything?

you watch chinese cartoons, community college-kun. You aren't any better. Let me guess you like lain and seasonal moeshit? Very deep

So, do you have something against realism in characters or what?

>All he has to do is learn how to use it properly and he instantly becomes the most powerful person in the world

Having to train its obviously not instant. Also, I find it funny that you all arent seeing the correlation between Deku's situation and your own general real world situation. Your on the internet you arguably have a vast resource, you just have to train your mind to get good... but you waste it on bait.

I prefer my heroes being good at something other than losing and getting participation prizes, thank you very much.

he is hated because he is the most realistic
most of us would be just this inept, but not courageous enough to deliberately inflict serious painful injury upon ourselves for any cause

Most of us shouldn't be fucking protagonists in fucking stories.

Here the reason

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Consequently Rock Lee remained effectively powerless and never accomplished anything important, while Deku didn't.

>the character who was handed the literal strongest power in the world accomplished more than a guy who was handed ninja disability
Whoa...really makes u think...

Both of them had the same disability and then both of them were given a power to compete which destroys their body by a cheesy guy with Might in the name.
There is literally no difference on their side.
You can't even argue "b-but Rock Lee had to work out for it" because Deku did as well.

>"b-but Rock Lee had to work out for it" because Deku did as well.
Nope deku not he get free power free and already number one hero from first chapter

Yes he is the worst. /thread

>Nope deku not he get free power free and already number one hero from first chapter
Not the first chapter
and he had to work out to get it.

The absolute state of shounenfags

>he had to work out to get it.
O MY 7 ASSPULL QUIRK

No, he had to work hard to use it, AM was already willing to give it to him since the slime bs event, if deku had a more durable body he would have gotten OFA right there.
Way to go trying to lessen the horseshit the writer put into his show.

Am had to train him so he could use the technique.
Like Lee.

Lee worked for it. Lee did years of insane hard work. All Deku shit did was a summer and that's it. Lee did not only did more time but also more intensely. Cannot even compare the two.

No, actually, Gon is the worst protagonist.

>For all his talk, he doesn't work any harder than the other students of his class

This is somewhat acknowledged in canon but they just had to use his relationship to fucking Bakugou of all characters as a means of displaying this. God forbid they use someone who isn't an extreme cunt to those worse at hero work than them to display the values of hard work.

>valuing a character by how many girls you can fantasize about then fucking

A cuck? Are you a cuck? Because this sure sounds like something a colossal fucking cuck would think.

>this pasta again

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>Lee did not only did more time but also more intensely. Cannot even compare the two.
So its not the lack of work but the amount that is your problem?

None of us are the main character in a manga, Faggot-kun. A character is generally created to be somehow interesting or compelling, they're generally not some boring ass normal person, especially not a in a shounen


Also the only reason he even has to train is because he was such a fopish little weakling in the first place as he never put any actual work in. AM took to the power very quickly, probably because he didn't just sit on his ass before getting it.

The amount and the intensity. Deku only did two months. Lee did years.

>has talked with a girl on phone

Just stop
I bet you get a boner when you talk to your mom

AM just has superior Aryan genes.

I mean Deku did what was best for his body. He tried more intense and that actually hurts you if you try to do it and All Might even told him to not do that.
Just going for intensity for the sake of intensity and not trying to actually improve your body seems retarded
But Deku actually wanted to do what you suggest.
Also it was 10 months until getting OfA and presumambly another 3 years to master it slowly.
Its not like he stopped training after receiving it.

>aryan
>superior

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completely wrong. OfA does not destroy your body, it only hurts Deku because he sucks at using it so he can't control it. When properly used, OfA has no weakness, it simply makes you the strongest, fastest, most invulnerable demigod of a human being in the verse, and that's not even counting the new 9 quirk bullshit.

the gates, on the other hand, cannot be used without harming yourself/straining your body badly. Even when using lesser gates like 5-6, Gai is too strained to properly fight afterwards

using the full 8 gates outright kills him.

AM can use 100% of OfA at all times with 0 repercussions(back when he had the quirk and before his severe injury)

it's not even close to the same thing.

>muh blumpfv
cope

>Jesus christ, it's the end of Naruto all over again.
Naruto did get a lot of bullshit hand downs from destiny and genetics and ancestors because in the end it turned out that he was destined to be the chosen one super ninja jesus and Kishimoto threw all the messages from the early days of the manga into the trash. BUT, Naruto trained and worked hard his entire life since he was a small child and he did it in spite of having no one and nothing, and even when he was a child and he sucked he really only lagged behind Sasuke, Neji, Lee and Shikamaru, who were all super prodigies even as children.
And even as a teenager he had to do some work to be able to control his super jesus powers that were handed down to him by space ghost ninja man, i never thought i'd be defending Naruto but i just wanted to point out that the differences between Deku and Naruto are even bigger when you really stop to think about it.

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So the consequences to OfA don't count because they are not exactly the same
OfA if properly used also kills you
That is the point

The only training I seen Deku do was a summer for AM to give him the quirk. Two months. That's it.

but rock lee is also a bowlcut ragetard so fuck him

You have no reason to hate eren besides stupid shitty shipping

That was before he even got the quirk. He trained and is still training after joining UA.

>The only training I seen Deku do was a summer for AM to give him the quirk. Two months. That's it.
actually it was ten (10) months.
Also they train in the school
There was a week of extra training before the license and the teacher was pushing the class extra hard. And what did Deku do during that week when they got free time?
He trained more.

I hate BnHA
And I hate Deku

But people like you make people like me who actually objectively criticize it look like idiots because we are in the same group as people like you who don't know their facts.

Naruto lagged because the seal of the Kyuubi was wrong.

I thought it only went wrong when Orochimaru messed with it during the Chunnin exam. But i'll take your word for it, i only reread Naruto once and i never reread the "Shippuden" part.

It doesn't HAVE any consequences. the only consequences come from Deku not actually being able to use it.

And what? using AfO doesn't kill you, or harm you, or anything else. where the hell did you get that idea?

>But people like you make people like me who actually objectively criticize it look like idiots because we are in the same group as people like you who don't know their facts.
This to be honest.
That said, I do wish Horikoshi would have Deku train more "on-screen."

>using AfO doesn't kill you, or harm you, or anything else. where the hell did you get that idea?
Of course it does
It hurt both Deku and All Might

When the black whips came out (which aren't power) it also hurt Deku
the quirk attacks the user. All Might had to become a monster to use it reliably and eventually he broke apart. He is actually recovering since giving it away and looking far better.

Sure, but probably his entire class does physical training, it's not special or unique to him. Does Bakugo or Todorki seem unfit to you?

EVERYONE trains and works out constantly. hell, a big part of the entrance exam are literally physical tests, as we saw with Todoroki

>>Sure, but probably his entire class does physical training
Yes they all did the training
But Deku did EXTRA training while we see the rest of the class resting from the training.
So he does train harder than anyone else in the class

Rock Lee trains harder than anyone else
That doesn't mean all the other fuckers aren't training.

No your the main character in your own life and you relegate yourself to the useless d-tier character, its sad.

And the main character is generally an everyman meant to capture the idea that success is coupled with fighting for your beliefs and having to work for it....because in the real world, things arent just given to you, but are earned through experience. Yes, some people win the genetic lottery, but even then the majority of successful people put thousands of hours into their craft or work as a team for large projects and common goals. You can be 7' but if you dont do basketball drills to develop game sense you'll be floored by even college players. It's a show for kids, of course they're going to highlight these focal ideas.

What part of "strongest power in the word" was hard to understand, retard?

So, do you just not read the series?

OfA never hurt AM. ever.

His injury was the result of his fight with All for One, where he basically had half his torso gouged out. there has never been ANYTHING to suggest that having the power somehow strains your body so long as you know how to use it.

Also the whips didn't hurt deku he was just scared and confused as to what was happening.

Also, even if they did hurt him, they were only able to because he can't control the power and thus doesn't have the super invulnerability it grants.

>No your the main character in your own life and you relegate yourself to the useless d-tier character, its sad.
I am fine with that. None of us, including you, should be main characters.
That is why Deku shouldn't be one as well.

That's a giant crock of shit. MC's in manga, especially shounen, are usually somehow unique or special. they have bombastic personalities, weird tastes, wild attitudes etc

Even the "hard working everyman" type like Naruto still has traits nobody would attribute to a normal boring person

>OfA never hurt AM. ever.
Sure it did
He had the same internal explosion signs in his fight with All for One.
> there has never been ANYTHING to suggest that having the power somehow strains your body so long as you know how to use it.
Except the first time he talked about the power he said it would strain his body and explode him. That is the defintion of the power straining you.
>Also the whips didn't hurt deku
It was directly stated he was in incredibly pain
Why do you even argue about a manga you don't read?

The main difference between Deku and Rock Lee is that Lee having nothing trained hard to keep up with his demigod friends. Deku on the other hand did nothing when he had nothing, and only started training hard when the opportunity presented itself to become a demigod. If All Might hadn't decided to give him his quirk because he saw that Deku had a heart of gold, Deku would be a salary man working at an office all day.
You can't blame Deku, he was a powerless child and of course he worked hard when the opportunity presented itself to obtain one of the biggest most broken super powers in the series, anyone would. All it means is that Rock Lee is more admirable than Deku, it's not like Lee doesn't also have a heart of gold, he also put his life in the line to defend Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke from 3 adult murderers in the chunin exams, and he almost got killed for it.

You do realize that the fight with All for One we saw was AM running on nothing but the fumes of One for All, and already having severe permanant injury, right?

AM's broken state has absolutely nothing to do with his quirk. it was a result of the extremely severe damage he took from his first fight with AfO, and then made all the worse by passing on the quirk so he couldn't even summon his full power even temporarily.


And no, he only said that if Deku was too weak the power would kill him WHEN HE FIRST GOT IT, because he'd not be able to control it. It's the same concept of why AM can hit things at 100% and not even feel it, and why Deku doing it shattered his arm.

And it said PAIN, not damage. it didn't wound him it just hurt because his body was going out of control. and again, all this is because of his lack of control of the power, not some inate weakness of the power.

NOTHING was ever said about the power ever hurting AM despite him using it constantly for years.

>Deku is the worst shounen protagonist of the last 10 years
No. Boku no pico academia is the worst shounen of the last 20 years. That's all.

Blaming Deku. He should've listen to Bakugou and committed suicide.

>You do realize that the fight with All for One we saw was AM running on nothing but the fumes of One for All, and already having severe permanant injury, right?
yes
But in that state when using OfA it hurt him
>And it said PAIN, not damage.
100% wrong
The doctor explains the damage as explosions going off from the inside of your body. He still hasn't recovered from it and all of it continually hurts him
Even the percentage he can control

>Bakugo
Man, even Raoh was a better school mate than Bakugo.

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>No. Boku no pico academia is the worst shounen of the last 20 years. That's all. Here

Why?

>OfA has consequences
Yeah, Deku has like 2 scars and stuff.

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No, doing ANYTHING in that state hurt him, it had nothing to do with OfA. His body is on the brink of death so straining himself at all causes immense issues.

AM will burst into fits of bloody coughing just from jogging in his normal form, it has nothing to do with the quirk, it's the fact that his body is held together with ductape and prayer.

And AGAIN, for like the 5th time, all damage incured by Deku is a result of his lack of control, not some inate weakness of the ability. When the power is properly used it doesn't harm you at all, it's simply that Deku absolutely cannot use it properly so the power just goes out of control and thrashes his body.


Again, absolutely nothing has been said about OfA straining a PROPER user. using Deku as an example is completely flawed because he literally can't even use it anywhere near the correct way.

Well he didn't violently scream and try to kill Kenshiro at every opportunity. That came later

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yeah you are right you convinced me.
Deku a shit.

You are saying that as if you think that banging your head against the wall of your disability and predictably accomplishing nothing of note is somehow an admirable act worthy of emulation.

I thought One for All becomes stronger with every user putting more power into it?
So Deku's One for All is All might's One for All + the entire work All Might put into it
The idea that you compare how both of them use it and act like its the same thing is retarded

I think his arms are more or less scarred over and if he pulls a stunt with them again, he's in danger of losing function in them permanently

Yea Forums tier thread

I think the danger has passed because he was able to fight Gentle without exploding his limbs, now his next challenge is his new quirks.

Naruto is shit tier story user. Hell, most stuff is. What I mean by everyman is that the character starts with no redeeming qualities or skills that places them ahead, which allows the reader to place themselves in their shoes as kids often feel like they lack certain qualities needed to succeed.

By starting at zero, it allows the author to show progress over time and that it's the effort of the protagonist that gets them ahead. You're absolutely right though that's where they usually fuck up and do the 'hes actually special' that destroys the original piece.

Naruto in the first arc is a perfect example. Hes annoying as fuck, but he does show I ingenuity and grit. Then, they face Zabusa and hakuna, two nine miles ahead of them, and who follow the ninja way of zero emotion. This, while they themselves have a deep bond that's kind of a gay romance, pretty progressive and mature for its typical audience. That zero emotion doesnt jive well with Naruto who lived as an outcast and knows it's not sustainable. He'd rather die protecting the little shred of hope team 7 is for him, ultimately winning out zabusa/hall's expense.

That arc is what really kicked it all off and for good reason: it showed a nuance and maturity to the ideas. Unfortunately a shonen cannot delve deeper into the abyss, so your left either repeating yourself or trashing the original idea for...well what we got.

Yeah but Naruto taught us the most powerful and real lesson of all. If you have power you can get away with anything.

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Sure he is...........

He didn't have to overexert with Gentle, did he?
It's only when he goes crazy with it and explodes his limbs. If he does that one more time, his arms are fucked.

That's why the fight with Gentle is one of the best fights in the manga, it was completely retarded.

Beep beep boop

There's plenty of reasons to absolutely despise Eren.
He was a complete fucking jackass for almost 10 years of the manga. An unlikeable, barely capable of accomplishing anything raging retard who actively made the manga worse just by being in the spotlight most of the time. Changing to psychopathic older retard barely changed a thing, aside from one or two moments where he didn't look like a total jackass he is still an unlikeable piece of garbage. The only people defending him are shippers or self-inserters of exactly the same type that defends Deku who is also one of the worst shounenshit protagonists of all time.

I realized an hour later but i meant to say WASN'T retarded.

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K dude

All those insults seem like projection. Is everything alright in your life?

>world’s most powerful quirk falls directly into his lap
He still had to train for like 10 months just to use it. He wasn’t powerful right away. Next time don’t speedread.

You know what i don't get? Why did All Might give him the quirk when his body wasn't ready to handle it? I know he was trying to be all secretive and stuff but it seems just irresponsible, he is a child and he doesn't know better to "hold back", especially when he has no experience with the quirk.
And it's not like All Might couldn't have pulled some strings to get Deku into the school even without a quirk, especially when the department of batman gadgetry exists, or at worst Deku could've missed a year of school.

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>You know what i don't get? Why did All Might give him the quirk when his body wasn't ready to handle it?
To get into UA
>And it's not like All Might couldn't have pulled some strings to get Deku into the school even without a quirk
Both he and Deku definitely wouldn't do that. They are sort of good guys and not huge assholes.

>For all his talk, he doesn't work any harder than the other students of his class
We see a lot more instances of Deku casually training than most of his students. Lifting dumbbells, using a hand gripper, performing the electric chair squat during class time.

>As if this wasn't enough, on top of potentially being a nearly invulnerable god of pure power at least as strong as AM, he now has half a dozen new, powerful, unrelated quirks on top of it
We've seen him use only one of those so far. And he can't even access that anymore, much less the others. At least it seems he'll have to train to use those too, he's not just instantly able to do so. It'd be so much worse if he suddenly gained all those powers in the final arc, like how Naruto suddenly gained six paths sage mode in its final arc.

If All Might recommended Deku then he'd still have to do the recommendation exam (a race) which he would most definitely lose.

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cut the bullshit. he barely does anything intense or exhausting. Casually lifting a low weight dumbbell while he hangs around at home hardly qualifies as training - every teenage guy on earth already does that. That’s the bare minimum, you might as well say he does a few push-ups now and then. For someone who was handed the ultimate power, he sure shows very little care into actually preparing his body to handle it.

the only time you see him actually put in intense effort was at the beginning when he first got OfA and was preparing for the entry exams. After that he basically does nothing. Just cries and breaks his bones. If he really cared about figuring out the power he should have fucking practiced in his spare time, but he never once did that. Even with the olympics or whatever, he just waited until the actual competition to try using his power. Why didn’t he try figuring that out before? why he didn’t try lifting some weights or undergoing an actual rigorous physical conditioning program?

He never does anything of his own volition. Think about it. He didn’t even attempt to figure out using power without injuring himself until the internships, when someone else told him to. The next time we see him training is during the license training, which again someone else made him do, and all the other students did as well. Again he does jackshit until he was forced to at the special attack training. He never does more than the bare-minimum that every other student does. He’s the equivalent of a student who never studies and just shows up to every exam and wings it hoping for the best. He manages but only because he was given massively OP powers. Also he never even develops his own style but just mindlessly copies AM’s moves.

Imagine actually defending such a shit tier protag. Fuck deku.

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TL;DR

You know what all his classmates had that he didnt? A quirk at birth. Imagine if he had OfA the same age Bakugo had his, he'd be like Tiger Woods honing his craft. You really overestimate the fact they've lived years with this ability to the point its second nature.

>You know what all his classmates had that he didnt?
A backbone? A personality? The ability to not cry all the time?

you hate him because he reminds you of yourself

Sure
I also shouldn't be the MC of any story
Anyone like Deku shouldn't be the MC and is thus hated by everyone.

hes a more realistic approach. Something new.

Know who isn't realistic?
Superman.
Know who is one of the most beloved Superheroes when written by people not named Synder or Didio?
Superman
Realism is what gets you World's End Harem and Deku, idealism is what gets you 'Dreams save up, Dreams lift us up and transform us' and Superman one punching a 6 dimensional+ being with a Father-Father-Son punch, something far more heartwarming than Deku could dream of doing

Why are the tears flowing to the front of his face in this picture.

>Deku cleaning tons of waste on a beach in order to receive OFA ? Never heard about it

Why is this a meme here? You don’t see this anywhere else but this shithole.

The female characters are pretty bad

Almost everywhere bakugo is more popular
That is at least subconsciously admitting Deku should've killed himself.

Congratulations, OP, you figured it out. What do you think the point of the Overhaul arc was? It was no accident that the two characters focused on in that arc were Mirio and Kirishima. It was also no accident that Deku came out of that arc in better shape than everyone else. Not to mention how the following arc showcased how far both Shouto and Bakugo have come as characters.
Also, all the luck, coincidences, and conveniences surrounding Deku are intentional, as well. It happens far too often for it to be unintentional.
To put it plainly, the further we get from Deku's origin the less relatable/sympathetic he becomes and that is intentional. It's all setting up for the big twist which should be revealed soon.

yeah but superman has already been done plus we are talking anime. Deku is a fresh approach.

itt one self hating faggot thinks everyone else self inserts just as hard into Izuku as OP does.
You're not saving anyone from wasting their time. Not here.

>Imagine if he had OfA the same age Bakugo had his, he'd be like Tiger Woods honing his craft.
If he had OfA right away, Deku wouldn't be the Deku we know right now. He'd be acting like fucking Bakugou pushing people around because his quirk was the greatest.

>it's intentionally retarded!

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>boku no shit only started being somewhat interesting when MC is not a focus of the story

I sure hope you're not implying that Shigaraki's band of misfits is interesting, every other villain that has been introduced in this manga has been vastly superior to them. And they only exist to be fed to Shigaraki and Deku.

what's it like, being so fucking wrong?

>I sure hope you're not implying that Shigaraki's band of misfits is interesting
I'm implying that Deku is so awful he singlehandedly ruins the whole manga

That's not what I said. I said that Deku is intentionally meant to come across as undeserving of OfA compared to the two characters focused on in an arc centered on asking if Deku deserves OfA. You were supposed to come out of that arc with the answer, "no".

You’re a weird one aren’t you.

You're not wrong, the faggot is only the 3rd most liked character in the series despite being the MC

We've always known that, All Might flat out told him so back during the tournament when he told him that if Todoroki had it he would've been a God.

I never got this. Deku always seemed more heroic than Mirio. He proved that when he was able to think for himself in wanting to save eri instead of ignoring the scared child that obviously was trying to get away from the creepy guy simply because getting involved went against the mission. I always thought that was supposed to show that even though Mirio is a good hero he’s not symbol of peace material.

Most people think Superman is boring as fuck, capeshitter.
Also Superman was literally born with his powers.

Because Glasses guy was a cold hearted logic trumps everything guy, so because Mirio was stronger and he was also a good guy, he thought he deserved ofa more. He couldn't understand that All Might chose Deku "just because" he was kind hearted and heroic and whatever.

What I'm trying to get at is that Deku is not even supposed to have One for All. He's not even supposed to be where he is. He is playing the main character of a story he doesn't belong in. He is only where he is due to the influence of a certain character. Someone who is very close to Deku and knows the future. Someone who, in a very pivotal event, can say "run" and change Deku's whole fate.

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Stop shitposting we already know MHA garbage

Yeah that’s another thing. Nighteye doesn’t seem to understand how important saving people is to All Might. Whereas the fact that All Might saves everyone is literally why Deku worships the guy. It’s like the whole arc was trying to point out that Deku really is the best successor to All Might because they share the same ideals but it’s never discussed here.

tl;dr

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Most people, meaning casual fags and weebs with shit taste like you who never touched a good cape story besdies the shit Disney and WB feed you

All capeshit are garbage user

I'm afraid you're very wrong about that. Also, Mirio didn't ignore Eri. Not once did he tell Deku to hand her over. He was simply trying to control a very precarious situation. In fact, the entire rest of the arc he is beating himself up about letting Eri get away and tries extremely hard to save her.

On one hand i want to like Deku, on the other hand OP and a lot of the complaints are correct. I'm going to blame the pacing of the manga though, because i don't think it's wrong that Deku has these flaws, but he should've grown or fixed a lot of them by now. I think that applies to a lot of the "problems" the manga has.

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>mirio didn't ignore eri
He did worse, he knew she was in pain and let her go despite understanding she was handing her to her abuser.
The only reason he's beating himself up is because he feels remorse, he even admits to the guy with the truth revealing quirk that he's saving eri because that is a pretext to feel better about himself.

Why does this pasta always get a billion responses? It's been debunked every single time. Deku isn't Batman. Fuck off.

>Post in Yea Forums
>liking capeshit
Absolute state of americunt

He had to pass his quirk because he was dying. He knew he could trust Deku to train for it. He didn't know Deku would struggle with it since he never did. Why would you waste Batman gadgetry on a quirkless civilian? That's like saying a paraplegic can be a cop because you can give them a gun.

He’s beating himself up because he feels guilty over telling Deku not to argue with Overhaul and hand over Eri. He even admitted that he’s only fighting so hard because he’s guilty

Wrong, Eri returned of her own accord. Whether it was under the threat of violence or not is irrelevant. For all intents and purposes, Overhaul's story was the truth. They couldn't pursue the case any further without jeopardizing the mission or worse.

You can't just fix all your childhood problems in an instant. He's definitely improved his personality a lot since the series began, but he'll probably never recover entirely, not many people do.

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He still same likebthe first chapter always cry

Are you retarded? Mirio tells deku "didn't you realize that bloodlust lured the child back in!" he knew something was wrong, and he decided to let her go anyways. Mirio was shit

It was still Deku who tried to help her and bothered to notice how scared she was. Mirio was too focused on the mission and not on the people. It’s not his fault it’s just how Nighteye taught him. Poorly

No, capeshit is just pretty garbage all around and you should be embarrassed for liking it.

Really?

He does. And that was his problem.
He had a power that doomed him to seeing the absolute worst possible outcomes for himself and seeing the future of other people no matter what they did.
He could have curled up and died with all of what he knew but he stood up and fought.
He was more heroic then most people in the manga if not one of the most heroic.

There's a problem though.
The guy he knew that could make it right was heading for a horrible ending.
He also knew that for all of the smiles and fighting the good fight, that the crippled man that he's helped back to his humble apartment after every harrowing battle wouldn't be around forever. And that every battle can't be won with a big kool-aid grin a cool catchphrase and punching it really hard.
Some battles can't be fought like that.

That's why he became the series batman/nickfury...or would have become them if the editors weren't retarded.

BASED weaboo > americunt

>For all his whining about wanting to be a hero, had done NOTHING to actually make it reality. No training, no learning martial arts or even first aid/emergency skills, he did nothing but fantasize
Because one can't be a hero without a quirk. Period.
Vigilante route is closed off because his idol is the Cape.

Like I said, the moment Eri returned to Overhaul, Overhaul's story was for all intents and purposes true. They legally could not pursue any further. Pursuing on feeling a killing intent is not enough, especially when only one of them felt it. Keep in mind, this is before they figured out what she was actually going through. The both of them acted the best they could with the information they had.

Post the image where Deku pulls quirks out of his ass (literally)

Except he still wanted to go to UA, he still wanted to be a hero without powers.

user, hero wasn't closed off because he didn't have a quirk.
The hero route was closed off because he took the idea of being a hero lightly and was a kid who used the idea of being a super hero as an escape from his life.

Allmight should have given him a crash course in how unfun and heartbreaking being a hero is.
Kept the theme that the first arc of the story started with and ran with the stain screaming about how shitty all of the heroes are except for allmight is.
Fucks sake, Stain is quite honestly the ONLY real goddamned parrallel Deku could have had in the entire motherfucking story and they threw that potential under the bus because respecet muh elders and respect muh society mandates from the fucking suits.

Oh My

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Wishing energy!

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That is fucking retarded. You don't see a little girl crying and begging you not to go, covered in bandages and decide is better to let her go despite acknowledging the only reason she left was because of her abuser's killing intent.

So? If you wish to run the marathon, your wish wouldn't suddenly disappear after a doctor tells you that your joints are malformed and no operation will fix that.
>user, hero wasn't closed off because he didn't have a quirk.
There is no such thing as quirkless official hero and no amount of training can change that. A geek like Deku knows it very well.
>Know who isn't realistic?
>Superman.
Why? Aside from his superpowers, of course.
The fact that he is an alien effectively has no significance. He is a human orphan with superpowers.
Most of the stuff he does are as trivial to him as going to grocery to you.
And for the rare cases when he really struggles - well, there are a lot of heroes IRL.

>well, there are a lot of heroes IRL.
He only know the mainstream one thet why he hate capeshit

Yeah and the best Deku could do was notice the bandages and the shaking and make questions about her condition while protectively hold her in case the freak with the mask gets violent. The best Mirio could do was smile, play dumb, and tell Deku not to bother overhaul because he was more focused on the mission than actually being a hero. Just like his mentor nighteye

Yeah but everone have flaws

I wouldve actually been fine with Baku or Shouto being the protag, but deku is just borderline retarded

>Look, I shat on the wall and drew manga with the shit.
>Isn't my approach new and original? You should like it!

You didn't even watch BNHA did you?
Toshinori himself was a powerless student of UA.
He got in on being balls to the wall hardcore and training like a savage.

Deku?
AM took one look at this kid and told him the truth. A truth that would be bitter but one that would save his life.

You'll never be a superhero. He wouldn't be one not because he lacked a quirk. But because he obviously lacked the spark that would drive him to even TRY to become a hero or even think about what being a hero really means and what that will cost.

He also prefaced it by saying being a cop or a fireman is a noble profession and one that the world truly needs.
Hell there are quirked \heros who's abilities are just changing color or being able to eat bricks.

The problem wasn't a lack of quirk. The problem was he just didn't look like he had it in him.
The moment that Deku threw himself into the fight while everyone else was standing there staring at bakugo getting raped.
He despite having no quirk, no training, no drive other then wanting to help someone accurately assessed the situation used what he had on hand and tried his best to help.

This warmed the heart of the broken bitter man who was more then likely on the verge of giving up on himself and probably committing suicide.
It reminded him of what being a hero is and why he's done what he's done and continues to draw breath.

He didn't give deku the power because he was impressed with that one moment of heroism.
He gave him that power because at heart even when he was weak he fought and that inspires people. He also...probably saved toshinori's life at that moment.

Which makes AM basically dying in the fight against AfO to save his life later all kinds of Kino.

Really wish Hori stuck with the tough hero world and deku being the normie who geeks out with deep knowledge of all of the hero's villians and historical super hero stuff.

Also talk no jutsu and making friends and leading them into battle.

Mirio's flaw sent a little girl back to being tortured. There are some flaws you can't simply overlook.

But japan love it
I know it suck you hate it but fine

First of all, Mirio didn't see or experience that, only Deku did. Second, it could be a lie or an overreaction for all they know. Third, pursuing based on a feeling is not enough especially when there is already an ongoing investigation. Fourth, had they acted on it all Overhaul would have to do is threaten to harm Eri and the two of them wouldn't be able to do anything and Overhaul would be wary of them from now on.

You're absolutelt right and I hate that I realized this myself. I can't enjoy the anime when I despise the MC this much.
Also this. Are there any shonen shows where the MC isn't powerless but then is given an OP power? Where he's kinda shit but works hard and uses his brain to win?

Mirio experienced that, he's the one who told deku that overhaul displayed blood lust. Stop justifying his actions, he didn't act like a hero at the time unlike deku.

>where the MC isn't powerless but then is given an OP power? Where he's kinda shit but works hard and uses his brain to win?
Asta from Black Clover

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Well said. It will be ignored because people want to shitpost, but well said.

This is somewhat true though. Sometimes hardwork isn’t enough. Of Deku didn’t get AMs quirk he wouldn’t be a hero, no matter how he hard he worked

They do. I’m not saying Mirio is a bad character. I just don’t think he’s as good as Deku

>Toshinori himself was a powerless student of UA.
He was in a school uniform during the flashback, so I've always assumed that it was after he received the OfA and Nana was similar to the current All Might for a while, but now I'm not quite sure.
Maybe I should reconsider.

I just don't like him for his personality. I know that Hori wanted to try something new for this type of shonen and had an MC that's really emotionally in-touch, but his over-sensitivity is a major flaw in a series that's trying to be more "realistic" with its logic. Being so emotionally fragile makes it far less realistic that he'd be able to keep up with his overly competitive peers and face the world's most dangerous evils and come out the winner. His bipolar attitude of being cool/calculated in stressfull situations and crying like a bitch anytime else feels like a cheap sleight of hand to pretend like Deku is emotionally in tune and a capable battleshonen MC.

Eren was always a psycho and the trauma of his childhood made him a complete sociopath. The only halfassed part of his character is that such a maniac just so happened to be born to the right parents to line him right up for his own brand of superpowers, but for a world that's supposed to be grim, I think Eren's jackassery is done well in itself. At this point in the series, the theme is that there aren't simple "good guys" and "bad guys" and that war is hell, so I think Isayama has done a great job at making Eren unlikable yet interesting and justified in his actions.

I'm just saying that Mirio did not make the wrong decision, neither of them did. It was not a black and white situation. This is stated explicitly in the meeting. In fact, because of that encounter the operation to rescue her went down not much time later. Also, pragramatism and heroism are not mutually exclusive.

who is this chad?

user, there are shit tier heroes who's powers are trash like being able to read super fast.

Deku could have been a beast as fuck hero with his knowledge and some gadgets.
Look at guys with quirks who have nothing to do with physical abilities being abnormally bad ass when it comes to physical techniques.

Deku's weakness came from simply not TRYING and not really believing that he could be a hero.
He never had an impossible dream. A self delusion that kept the pain of highschool and his virtual disability manageable.

He was a troubled child who lived in a fantasy world. Not a future hero.

Eren Jeager from Shingeki no Kyojin

BNHA isn't namedt' Deku's heroic journey. It's a story about the future hero students as told by a kid who calls himself the worlds greatest hero.

That leaves a lot of leeway in where the can go in terms of narrative.

Mirio himself acknowledges he fucked up and he wishes he could have acted differently. He made the wrong decision according to himself.

wow I didn't believe the 10 pack thing until I saw it
Isayama still doesn't understand anatomy, I see

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>THIS thread again with the exact bulletpoint copypasta complaints
>Deku hasn't even been relevant in the manga for almost 20 chapters
>STILL fucking seething because BLACKED Lover sales less despite a WSJ Push campaign and an anime season running concurrently.
Keep seething you, faggot.

>Participation trophy mentality: Personified
Kek, no thanks

>destroys arm by going 100%
>activates regeneration quirk

what if Deku had a quirk all this time but it just that his hair is green and is a plant that feeds him from sunlight.

Deku felt the same way, wouldn't that then prove Mirio is just as much of a hero as Deku? Besides, I'm saying considering what he knew at the time and the situation at hand, he made the best decision he could.

I always thought it was weird, for someone who wants to be a hero so badly Deku never trained himself or looked into gadgets to increase his strength or someshit. He just memorised every hero’s abilities.

Better than this spazz

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O MY LINEAGE!!

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Deku is and has always been a selfless hero and he feels bad for not doing more.
Mirio is completely fucked up for denying saving to a girl who desperately needed it.
Deku attempted to be heroic, mirio cooperated with the girl's abuser.

Wrong

>IM BUSY FUCKING IN HERE
Iconic

He's one of the few characters in a long time who's sub and dub voices sucked so badly I dropped the series. He does not make a good first impression at all.

I agreed

Shonen has always been about nepotism.

As long as Tsuna exists Deku will never be the worst shonen protagonist.
>Has no long term goals or ambitions
>terrible in academics
>terrible in athletics
>is a laughing stock among his peers
>is just as much of a pussy as Deku
>Never grows or becomes more confident or competent
>literally the only difference between Tsuna at the beginning and ending of the series is that he has more friends.
>His only goal in the series is to ask and go out with the girl he likes.
>isn't even capable of choosing between the two girls that were set up as his romantic interests.
Don't get me wrong Deku is shit and is one of the worst aspects of his own series, but I literally do not think you can find a shonen protagonist worst than Tsuna. He is a terrible character I'm every aspect.

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Yeah. It's like how Naruto supposedly wants to be the hokage but never took any steps to learn even the most basic fucking shit or ask for help from THE FUCKING THIRD HOKAGE or any of the really beast ninja around him
He's just saying that to keep his loneliness at bay and tell everyone that he'll be someone they'll respect like his grandfather stand in the third.
Naruto, like Deku never wanted to be The top person that everyone respects.
They simply wanted to be liked or popular or like themselves.
So instead of trying to fit in, the thing they failed at, they zeroed in on some almost or utterly out of reach goal and deluded themselves into thinking that they inspite of not trying or having any talent, can achieve it.

Deku didn't try either.
Don't handwaive teh stupid bullshit of the plot by putting it on deku
user, deku fucked up and in the one second where he NEEDED to go madman he pussed out.
That should be something he should carries in his heart for the rest of his days.

Katekyo would always be shit with or without Tsuna
BnHA actually has some good characters like bakugo and Mirio
If only deku wasn't there. As long as he is there the entire manga is shit

this, he's even worse than Shinji and Tsuna.

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Reminder by Chapter 230
Naruto and Sasuke had their first fight in the valley of the end
by Chapter 230 in MHA
Deku found out he could kick

If mirio hadn't been there deku would have gone madman. It was fundamentally Mirio's fault, who went as to keep deku from following them.

>BnHA actually has some good characters like bakugo and Mirio
Ha ha ha ha.

t. Gabipedo

Eren is one of the LEAST fellated characters in SNK. Unlike Deku, he actually struggles and has character development and changes. Just sounds like you hate him because "he's BAD and EVIL!!".

People like characters who are well written not because they "self-insert", shocking I know.

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the difference between Deku and Naruto is that Naruto grew up, the one thing I'll give Kishi credit for he handled Naruto's growth as a person, which starts at the Land of waves arc where Naruto and Sasuke realize they're completely outclassed against Zabuza but instead of running and leaving Kakashi to die like he ordered them too, Naruto and Sasuke actually worked together for once, the two Characters that were back and forth all the time set their shit aside and worked together
Naruto eventually got over his insecurities that he had to deal with as a kid with no parents, shit like letting Sakura walk all over him was due to the fact he wanted to be accepted and though he finally reached that goal when he defeated Pain that's not where it ended for Nardo, sure Nardo took some missteps like with the Panic attacks but all things considered, it's currently better than Deku's

wrong person to take my (You) but go ahead and take it

Eren is such a miserable raging retard that i struggle to even call him a character. There's no growth and no struggles in something that can be accurately described as a "walking fuckup" for ten years straight and he spent at least 5 of them being a damsel in distress. He didn't even evolve afterward, he just switched the brand of retardation. Made it easier for you SNK tards to self-insert into him too, judging by the amount of rampant shipperfaggotry surrounding this awful manga.

nice bait

Get back to your daily SNK generals, faggot. You can't even function like a normal human being anymore.

The story would be slightly more interesting if it was about Deku trying to figure out how to simultaneously use OfA and not kill the person he's up against. But it's trash.