New Akira Anime

>Akira
>Without the bubble economy bucks to back it up

What's the point? It's gonna look terrible, and the main selling point of Akira was how good it looked.

>the main selling point of Akira was how good it looked.
But the new one ideally will have all the cool stuff that wasn't in the movie. I hope it won't look terrible (though I'm not holding my breath) but it'll be worth the visual downgrade imo to see some of the stuff from the manga animated.

Are going to get more squished loli again?

>Sunrise

At the very least give it to the team who did Thurnderbolt.

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Ah yes can't wait for the 3DCG adaptation

That isn't how she dies in the manga so probably not.

Oh no. Please don't netflix shit on it, as if normalfags weren't alreadya ll over the original movie.

I liked Devilman Crybaby so if it is something Netflix related hopefully it ends up like that. Though I'd prefer something more faithful than Crybaby was. I wonder how many episodes it would take to cover the entire manga.

>Katsuhiro Otomo announced at his Anime Expo panel on Thursday that he is making the film Orbital Rise with Sunrise. Otomo's third feature film (after Akira and Steamboy) is in production now. The director said that the space science-fiction story follows the coming of age of youths on a space colony over the course of four seasons of the year.

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>Motoki Mukaichi, a producer with the Japanese film distributor Shochiku, was one of the guests at Otomo's panel. Mukaichi noted the irony that the main character is American, but his helmet in the teaser image features the CCCP logo from the Soviet Union. Otomo added that although the story is set in the future, instead of rooting it in real science, the story will have more of a fantasy element.

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The original anime movie was already an alternative retelling of the story, it was rather different from the manga. So is the new anime gonna be following the manga then or is it gonna be some 3rd version of the story?
Sauce?

I found an article about it on ANN and it said they wanted it to be closer to the manga.

No remaster will fix that mess of a "plot"

It will if it actually has the entire plot and not the abridged hell that was the movie.

I agree with this actually, S1 was pretty damn good to look at.

In full 24fps glory

>letting a fanbase ruin your enjoyment of something
Imagine

Holy shit, they also announced they're FINALLY translating all his pre-Akira manga work too. Fuck me

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Shame no Mother Sarah adaptation.

KANEDAAAAAAAAA

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It's real

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I don't think this is a great idea

If it's shit it's not like it'll make the movie not exist. I'm glad they're at least going to try and hopefully Otomo will keep them from doing stupid shit.

>But the new one ideally will have all the cool stuff that wasn't in the movie
That doesn't really matter. The reason Akira became such an icon was the time it came out in and the animation quality and this adaptation, a TV adaptation no less, will not have any of that.

I know it's probably going to adapt the manga but that doesnt' mean it's a good idea

Do we know it's a TV series? It might be a Netflix thing or other ONA. Maybe however Sunrise releases some of their stuff. I personally don't really like the movie very much (because you're right, it's well animated mediocrity) and am interested in seeing some of the stuff in the manga animated. If it's bad, that's too bad, but I'm glad they're trying.

>it's well animated mediocrity
And the manga is well-drawn mediocrity.

HOLLY SHIT
They are following the manga story.

Of course it will not be animated at 24 fps and it will prob overuse cg a lot, and it will prob struggle to even keep up with the visual quality of the manga, but bros what a time to be alive.

I feel like this is appease fans after the the live action remake was announced for 2021

They also announced a new movie
>“Orbital Era” to be written/directed by Katsuhiro Otomo (“Akira,” 1988). It’s an action-adventure story following young boys surviving on a space colony under construction.

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They need that and time, hopefully they don't rush it.

When looking for a site with news about this there were some pages with rumors that there was a new Akira anime in the works from years ago. So I wonder if this has been in production for a while.

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They won't be on par with the original animation team at all. The key animation credits for the movie basically can be read as a roll call of the best Japanese animators of that generation.

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Well, if I had to trust any studio to re-animate Akira, I guess Sunrise wouldn't be the worst choice

>the main selling point of Akira was how good it looked.

That was the main selling point of the Akira *movie*, since that was kind of the only thing really outstanding about it. Other than looks it was a truncated mess compared to it's source material.

If its Studio 1 Sunrise then its in good hands.

If its anything else its fucked.

If its Otomo spearheading it to make it CGshit like all his recent works its dead.

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It'll be nice to see the real Kaori and kid Akira animated

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I haven't watched a Sunrise anime in a while. Do they still do hand drawn mechs?

Yes, albeit they're more 50/50 hand drawn/CG rather than being one or the other now.

It honestly varies by project.

Thunderbolt, Unicorn, and G-Reco had hand drawn mechs, or at least they looked hand drawn. Those are the newest things I've seen. I saw something about a process they use for higher budget stuff where they use a CGI wireframe for mechs, which is then shaded by hand. I'm not sure how much of Thunderbolt and Unicorn use that but 90% of the mech fights in Unicorn look like really good hand drawn stuff. There was the occasional obvious CGI but it was mostly for Unicorn's transformation.

Depends on which sunrise studio is working on it

Why does Otomo have such a hard on for Sunrise? He's worked with them on everything since Steamboy. Why won't he work with TMS, who was responsible for the Akira film?

Here, have something more high res

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>Of course it will not be animated at 24 fps

Duh, of course they're animating at 2s/3s just like how they did it in the past 50-60 years. There's no anime animated at 1s or full, not even original AKIRA.

Reminder that the manga is one of the best ever made, anime only plebs need to leave.

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Reading is for fags

In terms of draftsmanship, sure. Otherwise, I wouldn't agree.

>the bio trooper squad will be animated in our lifetime

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Also as far as I know the new release that isn't flipped isn't ripped/scanned anywhere. Would be nice to get that.

Holy fuck, what a time to be alive.

What part are you guys most excited to see adapted? For me it's Tetsuo fucking with the moon.

Where the sticky?

How long ago was this announced, did I miss the threads? I can't believe Yea Forums isn't talking about this.

It was announced a couple hours ago. Surprised so few people are talking about this considering it's the top trend on Japanese Twitter right now.

All I ever hear is that Akira is in 1s but I only listen to what it's been said about the film for the last 30 years I might be wrong

A few hours ago.

anime is officially dead the day they use cgi in akira
was nice knowing you lads, the ride was allright

Unicorn's sequel Gundam Narrative is the same, almost entirely 2d but with small bits of 3d for similar things Unicorn used it for.

The new Code Geass movie was a 2d/3d hybrid.

It's really hard to peg them down, there's no consistent reason for why they use either style - they don't keep the 2d stuff for 'prestige' mecha anime because their other recent important Gundam thing Origin was 3d, and their cheap and shitty tv series was 2d.

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Because sunrise is super rich?? They have Love Live and Gundam money, 2 series that still make tons of cash off dvd / bluray, and do i need to remind you that its their original ip!!?? Not an adaptation of any kind whatsoever

This. No matter how much they try it won't look as good, digital era animation doesn't have the tools.

Er, no.

That's pretty bullshit. It won't look the same but have you seen stuff like Unicorn and Thunderbolt? And I'm sure it's not going to even try to match one of the (if not the) highest budget and highest quality animation projects in anime history. I'm just glad we're finally getting something that will adapt more of the manga. I hope it looks good, but I'm not setting my expectations incredibly high like some people do for pretty much any anime that comes out.

Too bad the animation is going to be shit. The original movie is one of the few anime to incorporate the more expensive American techniques. You'd never get something like that nowadays. It'll probably be 50% cgi.

>first Akira takes place in 2020 before Tokyo Olympics
>second Akira will be released in 2020 Tokyo Olympics
Pottery

It has the tools, it doesn't have the hands to make use of them. Basically, the same reason Japanese CG looks like it does and even dogshit Western CG like Illumination looks great.

Digital animation can do literally everything traditional animation can do and more, and entirely has the capability to do it better.

The difference isn't tools. It's artistry, time and resources.

>4k remaster of movie
Fuckin great.
>new anime project
Not sure how I feel about this, but excited. I haven't read the original manga yet and was planning to, but if this series is an adaptation of the manga and is good I'll just watch that.
>live-action movie directed by Taika Waititi
Not confident in this. I'd consider watching it if it had an original story like the 1988 movie, but it seems like Waititi wants to stay pretty close to the manga and original setting. With a new anime project released around the same time period as this, I'm not sure if this will be worth seeing.
All in all, it seems like Otomo's really trying to cash in on the "muh 2020 olympics prediction was right", huh?

The issue is that people assume that all 1s=smooth/realistic, even though lots of the smoothest and realistic motions in the movie mix 1s,2s and 3s together and you can be on all 1s and still have really off looking animation because your choice of sequences of key frames and inbetweening is off.

I would even say that sometimes the key frames pop out in a noticeable way that cuts down fluidity a bit in Akira, when compared to more recent movies or even Disney at the time, but the actual detail and care put into the key frames and their ordering, like how they cover mouth movement, just tends to make for more compelling acting than most other animated films, and puts those cuts above more fluid animations that are less well worked out on the conceptual level.

Obsession with lifelike fluidity in animation is kind of regressive western centered thinking anyways, and CGI is in theory a better tool for achieving that kind of realism, probably is why Disney abandoned 2d animation. Lots of great animators like Kanada or Imaishi blow most full animation out of that water because of their daringness to be open with the fact that animation is just a sequence of drawings, and using dynamic limited animation in the unique way that works for them. Akira and all the other great anime from the 60s till today will probably stand the test of time not due to maximal realistic fluidity or framerate, but just based on how well conceived every single cut was, and the willingness of animators to do animation their own way that maximized the effect they were going for.

Just my two cents.

>Japanese happy about the news
>Amerifats already crying about the animation

Every fucking time

Nips don't have integrity

This. No matter what digital animators do their work never has the same quality if past works

Some people can't wrap their head around multiple adaptations. The older one always has to be the "definitive" one and anything that comes later is automatically shit even if it's not trying to be or replace the older one.

>Sunrise
Not bad. If they actually try they can actually incorporate a style that's both modern and faithful to the original.
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Nips are insects. Their culture doesn't allow criticism. Americans are 100% justified in calling out the anime industry's low effort bullshit in recent years, all while nips have to be low test fags who cope with being spoonfed garbage on a seasonal basis. They're to spineless to do anything but accept anything given to them.

lose weight

Its gonna be a repeat of the berserk fiasco and you know it

We'll see. Even if all the mechanical stuff is CGI, I don't see it being as bad as that. Sunrise can do 2D mechanical stuff when they want to. I would hope that with something as well known as Akira they would put some good people on it. Pretty sure Otomo being involved in the movie is why it ended up being made so well. Hopefully he stands his ground some more and doesn't let his most popular series be trashed.

I'm so glad I finished reading AKIRA just a week ago

lucky me, now I get to see how modern japan fucks it over

With the way the anime industry is right now, can't help be mixed on this news.

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>Sunrise
>Not TMS
Dropped. TMS still has the decency to have 2D cars in Lupin whereas the Gundamfaggots are all CGI now. Unless they're going all out, I don't have much faith. It is Sunrise so maybe it wont be a complete failure as opposed to giving the IP to Production IG or JC Staff, but boy it's a downgrade no matter what. .

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>whereas the Gundamfaggots are all CGI now
Sans The Orgin every Gundam anime is still using 2D. Also why the fuck would you trust TMS over Sunrise? They're even less reliable

>They're even less reliable
When it comes to to their most prestigious properties, they put in the effort. Not to mention they're on a better streak as of now than Sunrise.

>When it comes to to their most prestigious properties, they put in the effort

Lupin was shit for years until very recently

>Not to mention they're on a better streak as of now than Sunrise.
In the past 5 years all they've done is shitty manga adaptations. One which was so bad they had to cancel the BD release.

There's no doubt that they'll never catch the Lightning in the bottle that Akira was, they'd have to make a deal with the devil.
Can I say if it will be good or not? No. Wait and see for more news, or when it comes out.
Am I excited for the 4k release? Yes.

>Digital animation can do literally everything traditional animation can do and more
Except have soul

Teaser
youtube.com/watch?v=GEOveeZuor0

>4k remaster
Hopefully they don't fuck it up with DNR.

I wonder whats Kanye's reaction to this

>If it's shit it's not like it'll make the movie not exist.
Akira is a cult classic. It's literally held up by the fact that it has near legendary status.

In all fairness, it's actually just a pretty movie, and so much is cut that the story is almost nonsensical at times. Which is exactly how 80s/90s OVAs and movies should be.

Tarnishing its reputation by an inferior remake is going to hurt it. Otomo doesn't need the money and this isn't going to bolster his career in any way, the same way the second Berserk anime was wholly unnecessary for Miura.

The state of the modern Japanese anime fan is wretched. They have notoriously shit taste.

All the classics that are considered part of the anime pantheon in the west are basically unheard of in Japan.

He's probably begging Sunrise to let him work on the OST.

Great, thanks.

Wait what? I don't understand, do we get a new anime? A remaster? or both?

4k release of the movie and a new anime adapting the entire manga

Maybe this time we'll finally see the release of a proper unflipped B/W English Akira manga release that isn't limited to an overpriced limited time collector's edition boxset.

Fucking Spain got one before the English version.

I'm a fan of the manga for a long time and always wished they'd make an accurate adaptation. But it has some issues like all original story material has. Sometimes it uses methods of storytelling subversion typical for that time and the moments that matter are mixed inbetween so much distracting junk from sidecharacters. I'm thinking Otomo will really need to change some things because modern audiences are not the type to suffer through 10 chapters of sideshitters dealing with other sideshitters in a post-apocalyptic ruin. If yes he's gonna need to introduce some new characters more appealing and interesting to the modern viewer and make them do random shit (although honestly the dyke character, the group of scientists, americunt military jobbers and some other of Myako's people we're boring even for 80's standards).

So the base of the story is eccelent but the execution of certain issues is not always as good as it had the potential to be. If Otomo makes changes to those details from the manga that really test the readers patience I'd be happy.

I'm pretty skeptical about the new adaptation, but 4k remaster is going to be glorious!

>digitally animated tv budget Akira
b-b-but manga faithful!

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This. It also wouldn't translate well to other media since there's a fuckload of stalling.

>Very recently
It's been good again for about a decade?

>It's been good again for about a decade?
A decade ago we got that shitty Conan crossovers and more shitty TV specials until Woman Called Fujiko which while meh sparked interest in the franchise again and we didn't get a whole good entry until Jigen's Gravestone in 2014.

>Woman Called Fujiko which while meh
I thought it was good, and that was what I was referring to. I guess it's been more like...8 years? 7?

That was in 2012 and the general response was mixed at best with people liking the style and tone but hating the actual storyline. If anycase it was the best thing to happen in the franchise in a while and ever since then its been nothing but aces.

Yeah, and I thought it was pretty good. All I'm saying is nearly a decade isn't exactly "recent."

>Yeah, and I thought it was pretty good.
And your taste is shit. What of it?

>"Response was mixed."
>"Actually anyone who liked it is a faggot though."
Don't hide behind general consensus if you're just going to be a bitch.

No one said nothing about TV adaptation, sperg.

Thunderbolt looks like garbage compared to Akira.
Its not even close.
Akira's animation pays a lot of attentuon to 3D space and consistency.
Thunderbolt doesn't have that.

>Thunderbolt looks like garbage compared to Akira.
Most shows look like garbage compared to Akira. Its a worthless comparison because Akira was made during a bubble economy so they could afford to use resources as much as they want and none of the people who made it work are even still active in the industry.

A film or a TV series that adapt the entire manga?

You can't tell the entire Akira story in one movie

It's weird that recently, they have started to use the ''it will be a complete adaptation'' as a selling point.
>Fruits basket remake announced
It will be a complete adaptation
>Blade of the immortal anime announced
It will be a complete adaptation
>Akira anime announced.
It will cover all of the manga
Is this the new direction anime is going in? Complete adaptations for bigger shows that are announced?

Seems like it, but is that such a bad thing?

More likely Akira: Die Neue These

>They are following the manga story.

Isn't the manga pretty bloated?

All epics are

Is this the anime equivalent of every Capeshit adaptation in the west? Does it mean that the industry run out of ideas?

No, it just means that fans will get to experience the complete story in animated format. Imagine a world where David production never made all of Jojo, and the only piece of Jojo animated material we had where the OVA

Sunrise just likes to experiment sometimes. The Director of the Origin said he wanted to try 3D animation so that's what they did.

mods are fags and Yea Forums prefers moestuff

>90% of the mech fights in Unicorn look like really good hand drawn stuff.
Actually, all the MS In unicorn are done using that cgi wireframe tehnique. It is the best way to make every shot look as detailed as possible, and it save the animators a lot of time.

>no sticky for Akira
2019 hit Yea Forums harder than 2018

Wich scene do you wanna see animated? Really wanna see this and the fight of Miyako vs tetsuo.

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>nobody cares that we're finally getting more Otomo manga
>people are bitching about the TV/OVA adaptation of Akira and how shit it'll be instead

Great stuff Yea Forums

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Is he t-bagging him?

>still no sticky

Don't care. It's going to be shit.

Ass to mouth resuscitation.

Huh. I haven't really looked into the behind the scenes stuff of Unicorn, I assume that technique is using CG models to plot out sequences then drawing details or finer movement that the CG can't do over them?

I do know it had really good consistency and detail throughout, the tells of the different animation types really only came out during transformation sequences and shots where things were further away from the 'camera'

This new thing isn't a remake. Like you said, the movie is a shit adaptation. Something going back and actually adapting the manga isn't a remake and that line of thinking is bad for every franchise that gets these kinds of things. People tend to not judge the original adaptation that does a poor job against the source because it's its own thing but the second a new adaptation of the source comes out they do nothing but judge it against the old one even if it's not trying to do the same thing as the original adaptation.

Nobody uses hand drawn backgrounds, machinery, spacships, mechas and etc. anymore. Everything that is stationary and highly detailed, is a cgi model that is colored in by hand to make it look 2d. They solved the problem of having to redraw detailed machinery every new frame, without resorting to full on cgi.

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They've done some neat stuff with this, like recoloring the Origin OVA to make it look like the original.

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>Actually, all the MS In unicorn are done using that cgi wireframe tehnique
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

I already stated the fact, brainlet.

Then post the source of that information.

>nostalgiabaiting this hard
And some people still have balls to say anime industry hasn't gone full hollywood.

>making a proper adaptation is nostalgiabaiting

But then you guys complain about western remakes.

So when japanese do remakes it is suddenly a good thing but when does it is end of the world.

It is because even how bad the it will look like people will still go watch it because it is Akira but i guess it is fine because it is japan and not west.

>Japan going back and not shitting on the source material this time
>versus Hollywood making a live action version as a money laundering scheme
I hope you see why these are two different things.

I'll call it shit if it is but I already know it won't look anywhere near like the movie because I'm not a retard. I think people generally have their standards too high for anime though and they go through and pick out poor looking frames (which are sometimes inbetweens) and use it to shit on the anime. This happens with Jojo for instance. People who haven't read the source material (this applies to other series too) just dig their claws into the shitty original adaptation and anything that strays even a little bit from that is bad too. We don't even have any footage or really info at all besides that this exists and people are already up in arms because it's not going to be another animation benchmark.

>versus Hollywood making a live action version as a money laundering scheme
Would you complain if japan did that? And how do we know if they wont shit on the source material. Do you still defend them if it turns out to be shit just because LOL AT LEAST IT ISN'T HOLLYWOOD?

I fucking love the Akira manga too but knowing state of anime industry i don't have any kinda hope for it to be good.

>Would you complain if japan did that?
I don't know because I don't watch live action adaptations regardless of if they're the US or Japan.

>And how do we know if they wont shit on the source material
The only info we have is that it will be a full adaptation of the manga. And if they're saying that I don't think it's possible to do it as poorly as the movie did.

>Do you still defend them if it turns out to be shit just because LOL AT LEAST IT ISN'T HOLLYWOOD?
No, why would I? Though this all depends on your point of view, since what you and I consider shit may be different and I see all the time people complaining about things that I don't really have a problem with. People sure do seem to be emotionally attached to the original movie though. You're grilling me on what I think and stuff but why does it seem like people are defending the original movie like their lives depend on it? This is what I'm talking about where a new adaptation (not a remake) comes out and people automatically call it shit because it's not the original adaptation. At least wait until there's something substantial about it to criticize.

It's gonna be worse if it follows the manga, considering the film outshines it in every way, simply with its animation.

Fucking hell, Otomo.

Read it this summer. The movie is better.

>why does it seem like people are defending the original movie like their lives depend on it?
They have nostalgia for it or just like it so much.
>At least wait until there's something substantial about it to criticize
I just don't see it being good and i have no trust on anime industry nowadays. They will fuck it up somehow.

is Akira considered the best animated thing ever? Some scenes are just so fucking seamless

You gotta love Kaisuke. He’s like the willie coyote of the group. No matter how my poundings he takes, he always comes back for more

Okay I guess, but I'd rather they just did a 3-4 parter that adapts all of the manga instead of just a remaster.

When Tetsuo destroys the fucking moon

how well would manga Tetsuo fare in OPM's Hero association?

Doesn't it still have the most frames out of any other animated movie?

They are doing that too. We don't know the format yet though. Did you not even bother to read the thread with all the complaining about it?

Is a bit of a monkey's paw situation. I always felt that abridged movie didn't do the source justice. Now they'll likely adapt all of it, but it won't be as visually impressive as that one was.

That's not a monkey paw, it's literally how the anime industry has always worked. You can make a shitty 2 hour movie and pump a ton of money into it but if you want an actually decent length anime you can't put as much money into each scene. A 50 episode Gundam series never looked as good as a 13 episode or less OVA or a 2 hour movie in the franchise. Just because something doesn't look as good as the Akira movie doesn't mean it looks bad though either. If you made a 5 minute short you could probably make it look even better. The more content you have the more the money and manpower is going to get spread out.

No but its up there. Akira has 120,000, Steamboy had 160,000 I think, Mononoke had 100,000 iirc.

Many of the animators are still working. Umetsu, Okiura, Ohira, Hashimoto, Inoue, and Fukushima still do animation. And they brought Tanaka back for a cut in Blade Runner, he may be willing to do a cut. They could get Takahashi Nakamura to direct this time instead of just being AD like last time, since that’s what he got into.

I’ve heard 160k for Akira, My Neighbours the Yamada’s breaks 170k.

This.

Did you even read the manga?

>Nobody uses hand drawn background
Wrong.

Yes and I stand by what I said.

Considering how simplistic the art style is, it was probably much easier to reach that number.

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Oh yeah, because you don’t think the west has bad taste? You racist.

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What's even the point, most people will be really dissatisfied regardless of the quality of the adaptation. Akira has been ingrained into people's minds around the world as a great stride in animation. A follow up, made in a time where such a thing is even less possible, will appease no one's expectations.

It will appease people that like the manga and want an actually good adaptation. People who just want good animation can go watch the large amount of movies coming out this year and next year. Otomo's even making a new movie.

Can't you blame them though? Look at what happened to Berserk.

I just want to see adaptation. TV? Whatever. They should know what they do and adapt best moments with good sakuga. Especially because of Olympic Games 2020. I already know that quality of Yea Forums threads will be abysmal because
>akira is popular
>akira is popular in US
>popular across the Yea Forums
>popular across normalfags and other casuals
>rec list must watch

>Many of the animators are still working
Not nearly as much as they use to,

youtube.com/watch?v=Uo-snXAkF-8

Honestly more excited for the 4K release.

This, I hope the other stuff is good obviously but Im most exited for the new transfer.

Brainlet detected

>Akira in 5 seconds
>longer than 5 seconds

>page 10
>didn't even hit 200 replies
Yea Forums is dead

Well 10 sec.

Sorry, shounen threads and waifu imagedumps are more important!