Madoka Magica sucks. A large majority of the people who have seen it and praise it for 'subverting mahou shoujo tropes' (which in and of itself is a dumb idea since there's no meaning in having to do so) have never actually seen a proper magical girl anime through and through. No, those three episodes of Sailor Moon you watched when you were 12 don't count. No, Panty & Stocking doesn't count, either. Cardcaptor Sakura is a loose fit.
Like it or not, you can blame PMMM for bringing about the proto-ironic weeb revolution that would come to define the late 2010's with depressive, cynical, and overall degenerate anime appreciation that ruined the sincerity of the medium in favor of...whatever was championed by Urobuchi.
Watch Aikatsu. Watch Rilu Rilu Fairilu. Watch Ojamajo Doremi. Watch fucking Pretty Cure. Don't watch overzealous nihilistic yuribait edgebait trash like Madoka Magica that ruins a perfectly fine genre.
And yes, Eva ruined mecha too. That much should be obvious. Only difference is that Eva did something with its subversion, rather than just be a bait-and-switch.
What would vaginal intercourse with Madoka be like?
Jeremiah Brooks
Why should anyone care enough to read what you just posted past the first line?
Jaxon Watson
The world around you will turn into space when she orgasms like at the end of Rebellion when Homura was talking to her.
Daniel Bailey
I don't have the image saved nor remember the episode but that part where they ask a woman why she is crying at a LN and she says "Because they die!" is honestly a fair criticism of Madoka. It uses a lot of cheap writing gimmicks to do what it does. I still enjoyed the hell out of ride and it's AOTD prove me wrong.
>Watch Aikatsu. Watch Rilu Rilu Fairilu. Watch Ojamajo Doremi. Watch fucking Pretty Cure. What are you, 2?
Camden Sanchez
Evangelion sucks. A large majority of the people who have seen it and praise it for 'subverting mecha anime tropes' (which in and of itself is a dumb idea since there's no meaning in having to do so) have never actually seen a proper mecha anime through and through. No, those three episodes of Gundam Wing you watched when you were 12 don't count. No, Code Geass doesn't count, either. Gunbuster is a loose fit.
Like it or not, you can blame NGE for bringing about the proto-ironic weeb revolution that would come to define the late 90's with depressive, cynical, and overall degenerate anime appreciation that ruined the sincerity of the medium in favor of...whatever was championed by Anno.
Watch Ideon. Watch Mazinger Z. Watch the original Gundam. Watch fucking Votoms. Don't watch overzealous nihilistic deepbait plotbait trash like Evangelion that ruins a perfectly fine genre.
Ryan Thompson
The same 8 year old argument that has been rehashed endlessly ever since before the first episode aired. There's no reason to even engage at this point.
yes there's actually an artist dedicated on lewding Madoka on Twitter
Henry Thompson
Homura pls
Jaxon Adams
keit ai?
Josiah Torres
>reccomends one boomer mahou shoujo and some zoomer ones >hurr you don't know magical girls, stop praising Madoka Sorry. I watched a mahou shoujo mecha isekai and I still like Madoka, so fuck you.
I don't like it for the subversion meme, I like it because the girls are cute and I like to watch cute girls suffering. Helps also that the outfit designs aren't infuriatingly girly and frilly like the series you mentioned.
Alexander Cox
>the outfit designs aren't infuriatingly girly and frilly How do you figure?
Colton Allen
>chibi gross
Owen Sullivan
>Watch Aikatsu. Watch Rilu Rilu Fairilu. Watch Ojamajo Doremi. Watch fucking Pretty Cure. the only good part about this post
Jaxson Edwards
Are you playing Magia Record? I've got every member of the quintet that matters
>Watch fucking Pretty Cure I tried and it was just girls baking cake for 40 hours.
Justin Cooper
cute and funny
Owen Hall
Holy shit guys! Homura is a fucking babe!
Joseph Thompson
Do you think homura time stops to do things to madoka
Brayden Walker
you misspelled K-ON
Elijah Gutierrez
What the fuck is that music? What are they doing to the series?
Joshua Nelson
They’re converting modern anime fans
Austin Diaz
Wtf i love magireco now
Brandon Walker
>Watch Aikatsu. Watch Rilu Rilu Fairilu. Watch Ojamajo Doremi. Watch fucking Pretty Cure. I've watched all four of these and Madoka is top 3 AOTD. Also Aikatsu and Fairilu are not magical girl shows.
Probably a bait but >Watch Aikatsu. Watch Rilu Rilu Fairilu. Watch Ojamajo Doremi. Watch fucking Pretty Cure. HAHAHA, okay, Davido-kun.
Eli Edwards
The genre that they like. Both Madoka and Eva did the same shit to the respective genres they're a part of. They attract people that think they're the only good entries in the genre and caused a bunch of imitators making shitty things while the genre basically dies.
Jace Hughes
>Watch Aikatsu I prefer Aikagi
Chase White
Mahou shoujo died way before Madoka came out though. Only Precure remains.
Hudson Diaz
>People have an issue with the fans, not the show. The spite for the fans sours their view of the show How mature of them.
>PMMM >not MSMM >not just Madoka >proto-ironic weeb revolution >affecting Yea Forums at all >double spacing
Josiah Murphy
>saying this on Yea Forums Your first day?
Joshua Richardson
but why
Jacob Anderson
The ending of Madoka has a human being ascend to the embodiment of hope to recreate a universe with a personal god where humanity's wishes for miracles isn't vain. Most of OP's post is more or less correct but sure, let's call MadoMagi cynical and nihilistic if we feel like it.
Jason don't be mad that I talked about a good anime. You're not some anime guru, you need to watch many more of the classics. Stop fellating only the new stuff constantly.
Nathaniel Davis
>twitter
Jackson Reed
I know this is pasta but it still can't be refuted. Based user doing god's work. Now let's wait for the 'try watching the show instead of watching youtube reviewers' faggot.
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They think both are revolutionary subversions of their respective genre, when both are neither. This is mostly due to madoka fags who tried to attach themselves to a very beloved and high regarded show in order to trick other viewers, only to then disown it when it did not catch on. Hence the vitriol.
Adrian Rodriguez
Tell that to the fanbase
Luis Perry
>degenerate Can you please explain what was meant by that word?
Madoka was ruined by Rebellion, more specifically Homura was ruined by it. They assassinated by waifus character completely by trying to rake in the monogatari craze. Fuck em
Why do people go on and on about >muh subversion so much? TTGL subverted much more mecha tropes than NGE did.
Gabriel Diaz
Because Madoka subverted some things and it was pretty neat. My subversion is the intellectual thing a normalfag can grasp about Madoka without much effort. Themes and symbolism aren't hot shit these days. In the literature criticism world, deconstruction is where it's at.
Being irrelevent for 6 chapters before saving the day out of nowhere.
Lucas Sanders
>everyone and their mother making edgy mahou shoujo and Eva clones for years to come is an issue with the fans
Juan Ortiz
They're going to be airing alongside a rebroadcast of the original TV series. Guess the Magireco adaptation will be airing soon.
Gabriel Carter
how THE FUCK can you even compare Madoka, a 12 episode show with something completely different like Sailor moon Ojamajo Doremi, it's the same with Evangelion and the mecha genre, yeah they may fall into the same genre but it's completely different, now fuck off
Bentley Wilson
Nah, Madoka is amazing
Cameron Collins
Just like Fou
Bentley Hernandez
It is not the refutation of the holocaust
Dominic Walker
Nah
Andrew Rogers
Nah
Juan Perez
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Brandon Morgan
I was (and still am) a huge mahoushoujo fag when Madoka aired, so it certainly wasn't my first peek into the genre. Hell, it wasn't even my first dark mahou shoujo. And I still enjoyed it thoroughly.
You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. There’s no gimmicks, there’s nothing cheap anout it, everything is foreshadowed and the drama is logically character-driven.
Adrian Garcia
>Eva ruined mecha >Madoka isn't mahou shoujo
woah user, I'm not so sur...
>Watch fucking Pretty Cure but user, I'm not a lolicon or a faggot, why would I do that?
Eli Ortiz
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Ryan Evans
WHY IS HOMURA SO CUTE AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY WIFE HOMU
Brandon Nguyen
Homura did nothing wrong
Heil homu
Isaac Edwards
>Don't watch overzealous nihilistic yuribait edgebait trash like Madoka Magica >Madoka >Nihilistic Into the trash your opinion goes, do you think Nietzsche is a nihilist as well?
Leo Baker
>Rebellion was good and it was nothing but a natural continuation. Fucking this. Now the problem is how to continue the story. You have Homura with the uberman philosophy and Madoka with a buddhist/christian philosophy. How will they opose each other? How does the story goes from there? Homura may love Madoka but their ideologies are against each other.
Robert Morales
The only possible conflict I can forsee is that Madoka doesn't want Homura to keep being miserable as the devil, and Homura doesn't trust Madoka with her powers and memories. I don't think Madoka would want to go back to being the LoC.
Jose Davis
EVA didn't impacted Mecha as much as you think it did. in fact the 00s is full of mecha that does the opposite of EVA. The tropes "created" by Eva impacted every genre but mecha
Ryder Bennett
Why does Yea Forums use words it doesn’t understand like “deconstruction” or “subversion”?
Xavier Morgan
Idk. Like, we know very little about the new world Homura created. Incubators are being used to fight enthropy. Meanwhile are magical girls even a thing anymore? Is the world Homura built better than Madoka's? Even if it was out of Homuras egotistical will?
Parker Stewart
Madoka was a good show.
Brayden Long
Shut up Madoka.
Joshua Adams
We know that magical girls still exist (for example, you can see that Sayaka still has her ring), and that the LoC still exists.
Michael Rodriguez
Oh yeah, true that. I want a sequel. I hope the new anime is a success and they give rebellion a follow up.
Jackson Howard
What anime is your gif?
David Bell
Madoka is literally zoomies first 2deep4u
Zachary Taylor
>eva ruined mecha I'm pretty sure mecha as a genre has been unchanged by Evangelion. For such a famous, well regarded work, it hasn't really influenced other mecha series in tone or themes.
Ian Lopez
Half the replies to OP are sub 90 IQ. Keep it up guys.
If someone dislikes a popular thing it doesn't mean they only dislike it because it's popular or are trying to be "an interesting person" Popular things are not inmune to flaws, criticism, or opinions and people are allowed to dislike things.
Eli Ramirez
Have watched anime since the 90s and madoka is my favorite. It's a well crafted story in 12 episodes. i wish more anime were like this and not incomplete crap, full of fillers, boring and/or never ending episodes.
Christopher Scott
Not him but Uta Kata, a show people like to bring up when Madokafags are being too obnoxious about Madoka being the first dark mahou shoujo.
Jason Sullivan
Towa is pretty great, one of the few people that also draws sexual images of Yunocchi. Hidamaris esspecially Yunocchi need to be sexualized.
Nice genre you got there, let me just go in and make a needlessly edgy and dark show, slap a halfassed "hopeful" ending on it and fix the genre for you, while you're at it declare me a fucking genius!
