Best and worst Blu-Ray transfers of older series

The 4k CCS downscale is good but I wish they would stop filtering the grain out.

What DVDrip should I be grabbing for Sailor Moon?

What the hell is Levels, that's the best looking one.

anything based on italian dvds, aussie dvd use same video
koten gars or hark0n, haven't compared the two

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the new japanese blurays of the Dragonball movies really went over with the DNR to the point of looking bad like Funi releases, specially in comparison to the Amazon Japan streams which were the original scans.

Also i member some retards defending DNR over at /m/ because ''looks like dah cels''!

the Ranma and UY Blurays had terrible color regrading, that Instagram bullshit.

i wonder if this is a new thing with the japanese themselves scuffing all the film grain of anime releases.

Pretty sure it's been going on for over a decade at this point. I think they're just retarded.

GTO is forever trapped in a really shitty master. Most early digital will never get a good BD. Master keaton is the worst.

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Because it wasn't good to begin with

Eh it’s just about finding the balance, and you gotta look at each case individually. As far as I’m concerned if you can manage to preserve all the fine detail then the less grain the better, as it is with the 4K CCS. It’s practically a flawless transfer, and the fact that it’s 70 episodes makes it all the more amazing. Even Ghibli BDs aren’t as crisp.

I should add too that it probably wouldn’t work for something like the Lupin III series I also mentioned because the lines there are generally thicker compared to CCS, so I think it looks better with a healthy amount of grain. Case by case as I said.

the street fighter 2 movie BD has that sweet grain and also looks crisp and vibrant. if only the movie didn't kind of blow.

A cancel bluray released that used the original cels. It only went up to episode 34. I blame funimation on that part as they started releasing them right after the yellow boxes finished releasing, and for a much more expensive price.

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Oniisama-e had some pretty good BDs.
Also Gurren Lagann has some of the sharpest 1080p around.

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Gurren Lagann didn't have any grain to filter.

Yeah but compared to other BDs of that year range its the best looking one.

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early digital animes are the worst. they get shitty upscales with a disgusting grease filter.

FLCL's upscale is really disgusting

I'm pretty sure that Gurren Lagann was 720p. Encodergasm/RX782 would have encoded it at 1080p if it made sense to do.

I would love it if SD BDs were the standard for digital animation of that era. I have never seen a "fancy" upscale look better than a simple bilinear upscale (which can easily be done on the fly by even the lowest of low end hardware) in any capacity without looking drastically worse in nearly every other aspect.

We need more good bd releases so we can get more of this shit:
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dude that just looks like a waifu2x filter

god fucking damn, Outlaw Star always continues to look 10/10.
I can't believe cucks actually endorse cowboy bebop instead.

Agree with you there, user. The Blurays are GOAT

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>I would love it if SD BDs were the standard for digital animation of that era. I have never seen a "fancy" upscale look better than a simple bilinear upscale (which can easily be done on the fly by even the lowest of low end hardware) in any capacity without looking drastically worse in nearly every other aspect.

SDoBD really just become a thing a few years ago ever since here in the US thanks to discotek when they tried the new format with their re-releases of Samurai pizza Cats (US, not Teyandee) and Fist of the North star, they arent perfect (depends on the encode of the original dvd transfers) but its a rather good format and without relying on upscaling, HnK looks okay with the normal upscaling my bluray player does (tough apparently the 2008 masters used were in HD but Discotek didnt got those).

But for some reason outside of specialized anime releasing companies, most normie companies dont care for this, its either streaming badly converted DVDs ''PHYSICAL MEDIA IS DYING/DEAD'' or just DVDs or even upscales.

meanwhile in germany many Nicktoons per example are already getting SDBD's like Hey Arnold and Uncut Ren & Stimpy.

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Weren't the anime (and some of Hey Arnold at least) you mention done with cels and film? Though HnK at least is Toei isn't it? And Toei is known for their shitty upscales rather than rescanning the film. Unless the film for those series is lost.

I'll agree that Outlaw Star is the better looking show, mostly due to Cowboy Bebop being a mix of traditional and digital animation, but I still like Cowboy Bebop more since I like everything else about much more than Outlaw Star.

>Outlaw Star

I remain platinum mad

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lemme explain, most US toons of the mid 80s on wards were no longer mastered on film prints but direct to video tape, might have been easier to companies, i don't deny it, but sadly it means that is FOREVER locked at 480i at best!

this also includes old US dubs of anime, particularly the saban ones, since they were mastered on video because of the redone Sound mixing (replacement music and SFX) and edited, extended, trimmed, re-arranged scenes.

Teyandee (Japanese Samurai Pizza Cats) on the other hand was restored thanks to being shot and mastered on 16mm film which is good enough for a great HD transfer (assuming they dont use DNR).

HnK has not been released on Bluray yet by Toei, but apparetly the 2006 transfers were done in HD at the time. (there were 2 DVD boxsets in 2003 and 2006 respectively), but who knows, the movie is a weird case, since there is the US discotek Bluray which is hald upscaled but half HD scan of the same master print used for the japanese 2008 DVD, but for both endings, Discotek cheapen out and just up-scaled the footage of the old DVD release, it even looks like it was taken from youtube, where there is parts of the film that look like true HD with film grain and all, such a shame.

And yes, Toei are well know to be lazy hacks and do shitty upscales for their initial Blurays, case in point, SailorMoon (NO, not the same as the Viz releases which also did their own upscales but much worse with watercolor blurring filter) and Saint Seiya, which they didnt even used the actual master files to made the new transfers, but just took the old DVD files and re-encode them in upscaled format and some minor color tweaking, but i guess after the backlash of those two, they started putting a bit more effort, Mazinger Z got a new 4K scan in true HD and that was teh version used for the new latin spanish dub (since the old one done partially in cuba and los angeles was lost in its original form and only survived in poor bootlegs).

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Toei also restore the dragonball movies recently (NOT to be confused with Funimation releases), but, they did two versions, the initial scans had film grain but some movies had color issues and one of the movies had a rather bad scan.

then when they released them on bluray they tweaked the colors, but went full DNR and censored some naughty bits like the middle fingers because modern Toei its a fucking Toy company now!

Venus War BD soon

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