Popular characters that ended up reknown for being despised and controversial

The number one example

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Would he be popular without his fangirls.

Does Goku fit? DBS sure changed a lot of people's perception on him.

Goku Black maybe.

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The real reason authors despise Sasuke is because people are obsessed about how to make characters about themselves. People are really concerned with the idea of personal identity; their 'sense of self', and how they're perceived by others, and it makes them compulsively search for themselves when they consume fiction(in this case, fanfiction). This also makes them very intolerable of a lot of fictional characters, because they literally can't take a step back and aprreciate the characters in their own right as a work of the writer's creativity and imagination. They consume fiction with expectation that it should be about themselves. The characters must be like themselves or likeable to themselves. If a character rubs them the wrong way then it's a "bad character". If a character is different to themselves and they can't understand, then it's a "bad character". Now, I might just be assuming here, but I don't think most people can relate to a character like Sasuke. Meanwhile Naruto is a perfect self-insert.

This.

If Sasuke was the main protag and the development Naruto had early on was given to Sasuke, I think people would like him a lot.

To add to this, it's not really that Naruto is more of a self insert and more that he's just a likeable character, like how kuwabara is way more interesting in YuYu

That user is referring to the trend of godawful OP Naruto with a harem and plenty of Sasuke bashing fanfics that oversaturate places like ff.net, not about Sasuke's or Naruto's character development.

Sasuke was more interesting and realistic

I don't even see the problem with Sasuke. Does his edginess upset people by reminding them of their emo phase in high school or something? He had a reason to be on edge, his brother killed everyone when he was like 7 years old, then when he finally got revenge he finds out those were his brother's orders. Of course he would be disillusioned with the ninja world and its leadership, the Kage.
If anything, Boruto is about to show that Pain/Obito/Madara/Sasuke were right all along.

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This. I really hate people hate Sasuke because he's written as a uncomfortable foil to the hero, like he's supposed to be.

Sasuke was the best char, he was the one who wanted to get himself on top for the sake of others, way before narutos selfish ass did.

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People hate him because he hijacked Naruto so it was no longer focused on Naruto, but Sasuke and the other Uchiha.

The show really wasn't always about Naruto.

Narutos full on story was about being destined for great things that Sasuke had been in as a genius and one of the elite up coming ninja, Sasuke's had as much involving in being destined for great things as Naruto was.

Suzaku

Don't you mean orange kun?

This

Except he was still the second most popular character even up to the end.

>on top
He was more of a bottom.

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That's still the same thing, overly popular and still overly hated. I don't think any shonen rival has been passionately heated by fans and haters before.

Reasons I didn't like Sasuke.

>The series is called "Naruto", yet he stole a substantial amount of spotlight from the main character. His whole clan ended up taking over the whole series.
>Was a rude asshole and had a general anti-social personality.
>Everyone sucked his dick - whether it was the extended cast (especially the girls) or even the villains. Every time he showed up he was praised for how talented he was even though he had cheat codes in his eyes.
>Every time a girl appeared, they instantly fall in love with him one way or another, despite his personality being comparable to that of a brick.

Kishimoto tried really hard to make him look like the coolest kid in school, but ended up making him look like a super-autist and potential school shooter that everyone liked for some bizarre reason.

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Sasuke was at least justified for all his wank, he ended up hated in the end btw. Naruto himself is far worse...TL;DR: Naruto is an invincible and morally infallible Gary Stu. Sasuke at least had more obstacles and had a shitty win record against ninjas than Naruto ever did.

>I hate listening to Naruto talk. He has no curiosity about the justness of Obito and Madara's cause, no interest in the history of the shinobi world, no real empathy or understanding for Sasuke's rage.
>He comes off as some holier-than-though priest who recites empty platitudes without any understanding of mucking about in the blood and grime of impossible moral choices - because he's too stupid to understand horrible, yet morally gray situations like the circumstances that led to the Uchiha Massacre.
> gets worse. I could forgive Naruto if he was merely an idiot, as long as he displayed a willingness to learn, a curiosity about the world around him - but he has none of that! He hasn't even once, throughout the entire manga, asked either Obito or Madara a real question that touches upon the broader themes of the shinobi world.
>He's doing nothing but spouting off the same old tired bullshiit about "Hokage hokage hokage!" and "Bonds bonds bonds!" without even once acknowledging Obito's statement that, after the Fourth World War, there will eventually be a Fifth.
[What does Naruto intend to do if he ensures that, by defeating Madara/Obito, he lays the grounds for an eventual fifth world war? We have no answer, nor do I expect that we'll ever get one.

Based and redpilled.

Rem

Man, I just hate all Uchihashits but Sauce deserves his own series for his own Revenge arc, I only dislike him for how much it clogged up Naruto and Sakura as Characters, like after the Chunin exams everything became about Sasuke up until the end, at some points when Kishi took the camera off Naruto and put it on Sasuke for a couple of weeks maybe even months I always wondered "Isn't Naruto suppose to be the focus of this show? why is so much attention being given to Sasuke in the main series" like I said I wouldn't be annoyed about it if they just gave him his own series

Without Sasuke, Naruto jimself doesn't have a story. Sasuke was needed to explore Narutos hero wank through my. Also Sasuke was just as important as Naruto as a powerful and story breaking character that effected to characters.

>Also Sasuke was just as important as Naruto as a powerful and story breaking character that effected to characters.
Mate, I came for an Autistic Aryan kid with Ninja powers not Pinwheel eyes's clan and the true Masterminds actually wait it's some Ayy lmaos instead, Naruto did have a story arc which was wanting to be accepted by the village, what major relevancy does that have when it comes to Sasuke who went rouge for revenge which was a damn good idea
Naruto's Character development suffered when he gained his obsession over Sasuke which while understandable it got to the point it was just annoying, it was even worse for Sakura, it would have been nice for it to be a throw-away line that Sasuke was this or that in Naruto itself but literally what Main Arc didn't have some Uchiha wank in it?
like I said cool idea for the revenge stuff, executed poorly, much like Naruto in general

Part-I:

Sasuke is one of the few rarest prodigies in the manga. Orochimaru called him a genius greater than himself (after seeing his accelerated progress in a mere span of 2.5 years where he created EIGHT techs all on his own):

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Shikamaru stated that he always looked up to him in the class (yes, do read this in the Viz; it’s even better):

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Haku himself called him a prodigy in the Viz translation (after Sasuke broke apart his entire technique):

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Sasuke was superior to Anko when he was 12:

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He mastered Chidori and Lee’s first Gate weight-less speed (he hadn’t even seen that) in a mere month, which shocked both Gai and Lee:

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His chakra control in regards to handling all forms of chakra (especially Bijuu chakra) at the Sage of the Six paths level as stated by Kurama. Heck, Kurama is shocked by his talent: He's a tailed beast that is thousands of years old:

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Sasuke's essentially doing the opposite of The Creation of All Things Jutsu: The same jutsu with which the Sage created the Bijuus. I can post many, many more.

Itachi had his father to train him for the coup and as the next Head of the clan. Early promotions happened due to war times. This is mentioned thrice in the manga. Sasuke, on the other hand, was always neglected by his father. He didn’t even teach him Nature Transformation. Just the handseals, which would have done nothing to learn the Jutsu. He learnt the Jutsu on his own.

People hated him because they wanted project themselves into a blonde retard more.

Sasuke's still popular in Japan and always was

Then where is his spin off series? Where's his sunahara wataru and hentai harem artists?

This is why people don't like Sasuke. Look at all this wanking.

Here's your Sasuke spinoff bro.

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Terf

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>Now, I might just be assuming here, but I don't think most people can relate to a character like Sasuke
Well you are, because while I am usually too ashamed to say it, I can come out with it easily enough if it's to prove someone on the internet wrong by blogging.
I was a somewhat sociopathic child with a loner attitude, obsessed with the idea of strength and genuinely believing pushing people and emotions away made me a strong person. To make things worse, I had good grades without trying much. Naturally, I related to early manga Sauce a lot. There was nothing in Naruto I could relate to as a 12 yo, except maybe the feeling of alienation. He did inspire me a lot though, in a "wow, if even a retard can do amazing things, i can probably do even better" kind of way.

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>Rock Lee got a spin off before Sasuke.

How is this wanking? Sasuke is supposed to be the star rival foil to make the main character look better.

Sasuke is popular as in: People like seeing him, but on the scale of fanmade contant, Sasuke is lacking. Sasuke is basically something to enjoy when given, not as something you make.

Except he made Naruto look like a faggot most of the time. Most people were waiting for Naruto to get stronger and blow him the fuck out, but that never came to fruition when the "YOU ARE MY FRIEND" stuff came into the picture and Sasuke became completely edgy.

Naruto was always a faggot that Kishi used to tell the story as. While Sasuke was the vechicle to be a good story driven narrative to contrast how much his own personal growth parrelels narutos.

This.

do you mean in-universe fangirls or real life fangirls? because i don't think there are a lot of real life fangirls

>sasuke: is one half of perhaps the most popular BL ship in manga ever, with thousands of doujin and an inordinate amount of fanfic and fanart
>some random on the internet: on the scale of fanmade contant, Sasuke is lacking

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It even has an anime while Sasuke's still doesn't. Sasuke in ruins.

I didn't like Sasuke because he was rude, generally acting insufferable to literally everyone he interacted with, yet everyone not only were cool with it, they liked him for some weird unexplainable reason.
His character felt way too artificial in not a good way.

Fangirls run Sasuke's character fanbase. Without them, he's dead and has no marketability. Who faps to girly SasuSaku smut when naruhou sells more Naruto harem and recently Raikage porn more than SasuSaku fangirl hordes?

If Sasuke got the development Naruto had early on, he would be an entirely different character, of course he would be more likeable.

This.

That's more like a despised and controversial character becoming popular.

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Suzaku was in the middle

Sasuke being a dick was entertaining and always unique from the other shonen rival aspects. He has some much of a ego and overcompensating chip on his should, you could tell he was alone, insecure and broken, he was always getting more moody yet charismatic that him and narutos competitive banter was always the highlights of the show.

Sasuke at the time was trying to be the revolutionary modern day vegeta and hiei with kurapikas and killuas depth, and it worked, Sasuke is more famous than any shonen rival in shonen history if not all of Japanese history for his groundbreaking role as narutos rival.

True. Sasuke is tragically demographic pandered to women and only women. Naruto, Sakura and even hinata can be sold to men and women.

Given the bishounen designs, the entire series is pandering to women.

Naruto is a fanboy magnet.

The only time I actively didn't want Sasuke showing his face was when he was going through that phase after the fight with Danzo, and before the transplant. That speech he makes where he turns into a cackling maniac was not well written. All the other times his edge is out though don't bother me personally.

Even he got pivoted into a hot guy/fangirl magnet.

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Shut up, sasufag

>"I'm done with Naruto! The fanbase sucks!"
>Keeps coming back.

I tried.

>b-but it's just the women!
What of it? Don't break your back on that goalpost just to move it away. You can just admit you were wrong you know. I mean, who else is gonna make fan content of a male character?

>If anything, Boruto is about to show that Pain/Obito/Madara/Sasuke were right all along.
This, they did nothing wrong

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Remove the horrible chakra from this world.

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