So giorno's plan is to dethrone the boss to stop the gangs from selling drugs... And then what...

So giorno's plan is to dethrone the boss to stop the gangs from selling drugs... And then what? All the addicts that used to buy from passione will just go into horrible withdrawals or start buying from other groups. Passione will lose power and eventually another organization will just rise up or assassins will go after him and become the new boss and start selling drugs again. Is giorno even thinking long term?

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GIorno just doesn't want to sell to kids.
Drug money in general still cool

>Wants to give all the drug addict kids withdrawal
Based

I thought that drugs thing was just the backdrop of what giorno wanted to do which was improve the quality of life for all italian citizens, the youth in particular.

He has stands. So he can impose his code of honor with little opposition.

>Passione will love power, eventually
Not with GER, nor anytime soon. People will be too fucking scared to try anything, and literally no one can touch Giorno.
He does the Diavolo mind game, only its more terrifying since he's out in the open and everyone KNOWS he simply cannot be touched.
The whole point isn't to crash the mafia world, but take over it and regulate it so no one could abuse the criminal side of society the way Diavolo did. Treat, rather than cure.

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lose*, I'm retarded

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He isn't trying to stop the drug trade he wants that children don't get involved in it and that the mafia goes back to helping people instead of taking advantage of them

But he doesn't keep GER, though. Like yeah he has the arrow but it's not something he can just spam whenever someone comes near him. Not to mention even if he does arrow again, the ger that could erase effects was in response to KC's power. It won't come back with the same power for any threat. And he's just one guy. I'm sure someone would come along who could take it from him.

>it's not something he can just spam
Why not?

I know it would be a relative breeze to get into power once diavolo was killed but i kinda wanna see the fallout.
Imagine being loyal to a boss who youve never seen and then one day out of the blue some 15 year old kid announces himself as the boss and as a power move announces that he found and took care of the old boss.
Surely there might have been some pushback.
How would giorno have announced this to the rest of the mafia?
How would they react to the new rules proposed by thier 15 year old don?
I know that GER would fucking demolish anyone stupid enough to try and userp Giorno if they dont get clocked in the head with a bullet beforehand but i think Giorno wouldnt open with brute force.
Im starting to want to see this more than a jotaro polnareff reunion/giorno learns his ansestry situation.

By running a criminal organization? Genius.

>if you can't eliminate crime, why not just take it over and regulate it?
Since he's pretty much a demigod with GER, how is this not a plausible way to remove crime?

>how is this not a plausible way to remove crime?
Remove crime? He's literally perpetuating it with that position. The very core of the mafia is criminal business, you either break it up or you don't. It's not going to become a charity.

It can with the power of being a manga story.

Well seeing as the only person who ever showed him any kindness was that mafia member he saved it would make sense that he saw the mafia as the only true justice in the world and later in his life, as the only thing that could fix corruption. That he would first need to fix from the inside.

Well Araki can write that something labeled as a ''criminal organization'' can become the nicest bunch around that steals from the rich and gives to the poor but that does not make it a good or sensible story. On the contrary, it's embarrassing and laughable.

Don't think too much about it. It's standard 3rd world shithole "muh honoraburu organized crime" wank, not much different from all those shitty boomer mafia flicks. Just a pathetic cope for living in a hopelessly immoral and corrupt society, no matter what the outwardly appearances might be.

>Giorno, you may be a piece of shit, but at least you’re not Black.
What the fuck Araki?

Mafia is a symptom of widespread corruption, it's very core of operation is capitalizing on that and criminal activity. It feeds off of corruption and distrust in authorities. Araki just fell for the hollywood perpetuated myth of honourable mafiosi crap. And it's not like that mafia member Giorno saved did anything good for the community, the very nature of his business contradicts that, he just used his influence to give Giorno some special treatment.

>the ger that could erase effects was in response to KC's power. It won't come back with the same power for any threat.
Speedreader.

fuck with Giorno and Mista whacks you

But he killed a little boy’s father right in front of him, how noble! Yes, I know that this wasn’t in the manga.

If the two CyberConnect2 Jojo games are any indication, Pucci's Made in Heaven is immune to GER. So it wouldn't necessarily be an autowin against any situation that could conceivably arise in the future.

>Diavolo goes to extraordinary lengths to protect his identity because everyone in the gang save a few loyal members will try to kill him given any lead
>Giorno wants to rule the same gang as a gang-star with his face and name well known

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Remember the simpsons episode of the stone cutters? That’s going to happen.

Why are frog posters so retarded?

cope

silly frog we all know the mafia is there for the good of the community, they exist to herd all the bad stuff of the world in one corner, keeping us safe!

>didnt do anything good for the community
>ice cream vendor gave giorno more ice cream because maifa guy helped him out
>killed a guy who was making the community worse via selling drugs to kids on his turf
And besides that giorno saw that there was somthing wrong with the mafia and knew it was corrupt which is why he decided to take down the boss and fix it from the inside.

Despite being the goal of the entire part, Giorno's dream is never actually explained. All we know is that he wants to be a "gang star". Anything past that is headcanon.

Giving one kid free ice cream is not good for the community

>Horrible withdrawals
Use GE to create antibiotics to stop the drugs
>Buy from other groups/Groups rise up/Assassins
GER

Tell that to the kid getting free ice cream.

>antibiotics

Man imagine being the poor standless columbian drug lord who tries to fuck Giorno into accepting a drug deal/ taking his territory

Poor Pedro, stuck with diavolo in hell forever.

Would an arrow'd King Crimson beat The World Over Heaven?

>drug lord
>poor
drug dealers and users unironically deserve torment and/or prison time

GER couldnt so no

>giorno saw that there was somthing wrong with the mafia and knew it was corrupt
Tch, I can't quite put my finger on it...but there might be something unlawful, something...off about this criminal syndicate...I'm not sure what though...

Its just that it doesnt align with his idea óf the mafia

I don't think GER would trap some Standless loser in a cycle of infinite death. Would reduce his attempts to end Giorno to zero, but he probably wouldn't get the Diavolo treatment.

but King Crimson was stronger than GE in the first place

>boss is untouchable and feared so much that even if you try to find out who he is you'll be killed before you uncover a single clue
>word comes out that a young man killed the boss
>"oh lol let's kill the kid surely he can't be that resourceful or powerful lmao Diavolo probably fell down some stairs"

Giorno is genuinely fucking stupid in the sense that he thinks the mafia is meant to be an extrajudicial neighbourhood watch/Boy Scout troupe. That’s his big plan for Passione. It’s inevitable that Passione eventually dethrones him, lose territory to other gangs, breaks up or Giorno caves on his morals (or they miraculously keep their entire organization running off of goodwill, which shatters what little believability the setting has).

Right, as in anything still goes but just don't sell drugs to kids. That'll balance out the damage.

by using GER, he will send addict into Infinity dead, just like god intent

The rest of the mafia thinks Giorno was the boss the whole time since no ever fucking saw Diavolo.

Even otherwise good teens who occasionally smoke weed?

The mafia is like 4 years younger than giorno

Unless giorno started lying about his age once he came into power i highly doubt thier gonna believe that.

Stop reading fanfics.

what reason would a good person have for doing drugs or supporting drug use and its legalization
they are designed to manipulate clueless people and get them addicted to something that destroys their body under the guise that it's "cool" to do them and because "everyone's doing them"

Obviously it’s a stupid decision, but does it justify whatever you mean by torment?

How the fuck is he even going to get in contact with them lmao? Nobody knows shit about his business dealings, if he even does anything at all but sit in corners of hotel rooms rocking back and forth. Is turtlenareff gonna dig through trash to find and hack into Diavolo's many broken laptops?

>All the addicts that used to buy from passione will just go into horrible withdrawals or start buying from other groups.
What makes you think GioGio isn't just going to have them killed to be put out of their misery? Dude is fucking cutthroat and ruthless outside of his circle of friends.
Man, you niggas keep forgetting half of his magic-double-homo-genetics is being related to fucking Dio, who is a glorious monster, even before he became a vampire OR a dinosaur.

This is why Doppio should’ve survived and manipulated into helping Giorno become the new boss.

>Not with GER, nor anytime soon.
Or EVER, technically, since Stone Ocean happened.

When has he ever murdered innocent people?

Yikes

>teens
Definitely, the worthless shits. They can do whatever the fuck so long as it's harmless and they're adults, but that's neither here nor there on fucking Yea Forums.

dealers make most of their money off of impoverished people and teens and continue selling their drugs despite fully knowing their harmful ways and perpetuate the cycle of manipulation
they are also typically involved in gangs and get into brutally violent conflicts over drug money which often involve civilians
they are the lowest scum of the earth

I’m talking about users, not dealers.

Care to make a post with actual meaning?

drug users are often scummy themselves
they know what they're doing is (likely) illegal and they are usually well-aware of the consequences
they aren't innocent, but they're definitely by far less scummy than the dealers

Why was it deleted?

He basically wants it to be a vigilante gang.

He'll just increase the cost of "protection" to offset his losses. If anyone protests, he can just beat the shit out of them with his stand. He doesn't even need to use any special powers. Unless you have a stand, it'll just look like he's beating someone up with his mind, which is way more intimidating than just beating someone up yourself.

He is still a crook, his introduction was robbing a Koichi, he just has principles

Why do people consider Diavolo's infinite deaths to be a worse fate than anything? Thanks to the existence of Jesus Christ as well as the fact that we constantly see dying characters ascending to Heaven, we know there's a confirmed afterlife in Jojo. If there's a Heaven it's probable that hell also exists. So either Diavolo would have been just killed and gone straight to hell or he suffers his infinite deaths. I'd say hell would probably have been worse. He got off easy.

Doppio is clumsy not retarded, he was street savy and beat Risotto

I'm pretty sure Jesus only exists in the SBR universe, as explained by Valentine, it's the universe where the corpse is based.

He also has memory issues and doesn’t have a stand of his own.

>main villain survives and helps the protagonists
That'll be the day

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>main villain’s second in command

>implying the Mafia can't be a ruthless criminal organization while also potentially making their communities a better place

Are you lot not familiar with the Yamaguchi group and what happened after the tsunami in 2011? Look it up. Also, while having no crime at all in your neighborhood is the ideal situation, that is a pipe dream for many neighborhoods because the people who live in those kinds of places are all pretty shitty. For places like that, the presence of a gang tends to actually improve the everyday circumstances of its residents by stamping out unsanctioned or opportunistic crime on their turf (it's bad for business after all).

not Golden Wind related but Erina escaped the sinking ship by using Dio's coffin so how come DIO was rescued in his coffin too

There was a second compartment for Wang Chen.

i don't know.

Your logic is more porous than Rohan's shirts.

no one watched Godfather here?
the mafia can still rack up cash with gambling and many other businesses

You mean how they created an excuse for people to "owe" them until the end of time?

>thinking Giorno got rid of the drugs
Just point and laugh at these naive dullards.

The entirety of part 5 came about because Araki wanted to make a pun.

Parts 5 is like part 3 in that they both prioritize back to back fights of the week while playing loosely with the plot. Part 5 manages to make the journey alot more intricate and exciting than what was basically just mowing down one enemy after the other in part 3. But it pays back for this in its garbage premise, Giorno's goal in general is very ill developed. Its easy to forget about once the whole Passione civil war thing kicks off though.

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Who cares lol, he just wants to be bossu
Also there isn't a person alive who can even touch him for as long as he has GER, he basically has free reign over Italy for his entire life

He just wants to sit on a fancy chair and look cool

pretty sure this exact thing was addressed in purple haze feedback
>drugs division of Passione tries to rebel against these changes for obvious reasons
>they all have mind fuckery tier stands

Is that the girl that broke her ass trying to do this pose?

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I always took it that by "Gang Star" he meant he wanted to be a Robin Hood type of deal, but with some shady shit going on from time to time and maybe even targeting corrupt people in places of higher authority if the need be.

He's not gonna be like "drugs are bad, but how's our sex trafficking project going?", is what I'm trying to say.

Yeah truly the best option would be to keep the kids on dangerous drugs their whole lives instead of going through those awful withdrawals!

> Passione will lose power and eventually another organisation will rise up

Why do people think that children make up the main financial source of the mafia? Giorno doesn't even want to stop adults from doing drugs ((as he literally stated to Bruno at the start)) since they have the maturity and responsibility to make their own decisions, but kids aren't developed yet mentally to be allowed to make that choice.

> It's not something he can just spam
What makes you think that?

> the ger that could erase effects was in response to KC's power
That's basically headcanon, it's only speculation that the requiem acts in regards to whatever you need at the time, and with SCR having the same power even back when Pol was trying to pick it up from behind a dresser vs when he was fighting KC seems to disprove that theory.

That's not exactly canon or particularly well written though.

>It won't come back with the same power for any threat.
Why so retards push these lies?

he's keeping them all to himself, that bastard

HEY GIORNO, WHY ARE TAKING DRUGS FROM THE CHILDREN?! DOES YOUR GREED KNOW NO LIMITS?

That doesnt invalidate it or sap it of it's quality. What did you think this post was going to do? make people stop talking about what you dont like? You deserve to have your face stomped into a fucking rock. Fucking sick of you people. You all need to fucking die.

i was actually explaining why giorno's plan made no sense, because it was all for the sake of a pun, but you go ahead and have your autist rampage

>Diavolo probably fell down some stairs
Surely at one point he did.

I wonder if thats a thing people would have started noticing, or if they just forget him after he dies, or it some alternate world biz, I figure since he's dying over and over again every few seconds/minutes there'd have to be a point where people are talking about seeing some weird pink haired guy choking to death on a bee when another says they just saw him fall out of a 5 story building.

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I figured that Diavolo's soul was just possessing people right before they died. So Diavolo would experience all those deaths but normal people wouldn't see Diavolo dying over and over again. Though the first two deaths at least were Diavolo I think. Being stabbed and then the morgue.

Maybe, I never really thought of it like that.

Polnareff keeps in safe in the turtle.

And Giorno has access to Polnareff/the turtle presumably whenever?

>access to polnareff
Lucky motherfucker

no, it's just to stop selling drugs to kids

Mafia has actually way more business nowadays in illegal immigration, building stuff and garbage disposal, among other things

> yfw ghost polnareff can do nothing to resist you

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nah bruv cuz he owns passione he has more power than any low life gangster scum and shut down any new gang

he's 15
also JoJo died after part 3 anyway, so no one really cares.

I was thinking more pure thoughts user
>ywn have ghost polnareff ask you how your day was
>ywn have ghost polnareff listen to your every word cause he cares about your day and life
>ywn have ghost polnareff go over your scedual with you
>ywn have tea with ghost polnareff inside the turtles stand
>ywn get to listen to the tales of his past and watch his eyes light up when you ask about his friends
>ywn comfort ghost polnareff after he remembers his fallen comrades
Im sad now

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Sorry for ruining the purity user, got caught up with Polnareff thoughts.

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I totally understand user
its a dissapointment that there is hardly any porn and fics out there

The anime cut the line where he said selling to kids was unacceptable but it's an adult's choice to do crack.

>other groups
They'll just need to kill them all, everybody inside of Passione has stands.

He still specifies the 'selling to kids' part, it's still easy to understand that he's probably not against the drug trade as a whole.

I'm guessing that maybe jap TV didn't want a 'good' MC saying that adults are free to do drugs if they want to, even if it is an adult-ish show.

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Why the fuck didn't Jotaro ever make contact with Giorno?
>dio's son has a powerful stand and is involved with gangs taking over major swaths of territory
>send your teenage buttbuddy to go investigate
>literally the first thing that happens is the suspect steals his passport
>gee nothing to be concerned about, i'll send you some money, come home

> Everybody

What makes you think that? There's like, hundreds of people in Passione who hold all manner of odd gang jobs, if they were reasonably skilled enough to be able to pass whatever stupid test Polpo or whatever other capo set for them, then they wouldn't necessarily have a stand.

We at least know that you don't need a stand to become a rank and file member like Luka, and you also don't need one to become a capo like Pericolo.

Imagine being koichi and giving jotaro the ok on giorno only to find out that he became the boss of the mafia 8 days later.

He only wanted to know if Giorno was potentially an enemy, but if someone that Jotaro trusts like Koichi ((presumably)) told him that Giorno seemed to have the 'virtue of the joestar bloodline' or whatever sappy shit he was talking about after Black Sabbath, Jotaro would probably go 'okay thanks Koichi I guess he isn't an enemy' and leave it at that, he had other shit to do anyway.

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cringe baldposter

This

Arrow'd GE would beat World Over Heaven

ITT:
idiot not knowing what pax mafiosa is

Aka, totalitarianism. Yeah, nah.

Sorry you feel that way.

Fuck socialists!

Japs are weird about drugs

why did bucciarati's team win
the hitman team was more likeable and didn't just "have a dream"
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divorce leaves you with little time for your own shit

> why didn't the hitman team win
because they were just as bad as the villain of the show?

>it's not something he can just spam whenever someone comes near him.
Of course he can, why would yo-
>Not to mention even if he does arrow again, the ger that could erase effects was in response to KC's power.
Fuck off retard.

in what instance were they worse than team bucciarati
>formaggio assassinating target with a car (mocked for accidental casualty)
>equally horrified and downtrodden by the boss's message (sorbet & gelato)
>want the boss's drug route to escape their dire position after getting snubbed by the organization, therefore need trish as a living lead
>hitman team's deadliest aoe is grateful dead (reversible, indiscriminate effect by design)
>bucciarati team's deadliest aoe is purple haze (irreversible, indiscriminate effect by user)
>prosciutto affects the train passengers only because he isn't able to tell where bucciarati is hiding
>pesci is a mammoni that takes aniki's lesson too far
>melone is a natural rapist-
okay, i'll give you that
>giorno steals a hundred cars (thats fucked up man)
>risotto imploring "interrogative techniques" to restore a pile of ash (what is the torture dance)
>risotto fighting doppio on accord of his dead team
most of their actions throughout the part are framed scarily because, of course, they're a threat, but the actions are no more comparable than to what bucciarati's team does to their enemies (which are framed either funnily or heroically)
no one in part 5 is really a good guy though they're all assholes but one of them has dio's blood

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Not in Italy, no.

They're worse than team Buccellati because they literally aren't going to change jack shit in the gang.

They have the added measure of wanting revenge for their bros, but the fact is that they were just pissed because they weren't making the same amount of money as the drug team even though their work as assassins was harder.

If Rissotto or the team as a whole took over from the boss, they legitimately would have just ran it exactly the same as he did, which was causing skyrocketing crime in italy and making it so that children were dying of drug related deaths 20 times more than the previous average.

He's a traitor for opposing Boss and deserves death.

get outta here doppio

And since we don't have metrics for how Giorno would have ran it...
I don't see the issue in shifting management to a competent team that has already done business for years under the gang. team buccellati has even less merit for running the gang then the hitmen do! In age, in experience, in communications, scope, ability, knowledge, whatever.
In a gangster story where giorno wants to be a gangst(a)r, his ambition is so lofty and stupid that I just can't root for it compared to anyone else in the story. Especially the technicalities of his bravado, other than being DIO-level charming.
The child drug foam is a problem that exists simply because the gang does, honestly. I don't know how they'd reasonably change it completely because it'd just end up happening even if Passione as a whole acted against it.

You know I'm right.

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> I don't see the issue in shifting management to a competent team that has already done business for years under the gang
Because they would be running it the same way as the boss did, like I said, vs Bruno's gang, who would have at least toned shit down to a reasonable level and stop destroying italy's youth.
The point was that Bruno's team should have/did win because they are morally better than the execution squad, who, despite having the revenge angle, were mainly just rebelling for money and weren't planning on changing anything about the way the gang was run.

> I don't know how they'd reasonably change it
By having the boss hand down a memo to the capos saying "don't sell drugs to kids" and have the lower teams do the job they were always doing from the start ((which we see with Luka)), which is not letting rando's operate on gang turf by force.

Wow, super difficult.

Part 6 is trash.

Upboated!

>Are you lot not familiar with the Yamaguchi group and what happened after the tsunami in 2011?
You're a massive moron who can't see an inch beyond your nose, you're literally the perfect specimen of debt slave for that filth.

I do agree with the morals of bruno's gang, but I just don't think it's a better end for passione with them winning instead of the hitman team.
>By having the boss hand down a memo to the capos saying "don't sell drugs to kids" and have the lower teams do the job they were always doing from the start ((which we see with Luka)), which is not letting rando's operate on gang turf by force.
I could get that, but as OP mentioned, though, the kids'll withdraw and competing dealers will take advantage of that, conglomerate. People in luka's role will therefore probably incite gang warfare which would end up worse for everyone living under either gang.
>mainly just rebelling for money
I've enjoyed your replies, user, but I will have to disagree with this. Rebelling for themselves, maybe, but it's to change their life situation outside of monetary gain thanks to what happened to sorbet/gelato under current passione already. Money is an intermediary.

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He'll just murder everyone on his way and rid italy of children drug addicts even if he has to kill hundreds of thousands to do it.

> the kids'll withdraw
Thats better than having them stuck on dangerous and debilitating drugs for their whole lives? Also with how big Passione is + the inclusion of apparently many stand users in its midst makes me think that rival mafia action wouldn't be a big concern, especially considering the fact that it's not like the gang gets 99% of its money and power from selling drugs to kids, it's just not a necessary thing.

Regardless the original argument I had was that Bruno's gang is 'better' because they're morally better, and that the execution squad didn't and shouldn't have won because they were basically the same as the boss, who is seen as the main villain of the show.

> Rebelling for themselves
Yes, so they can get more money, which they thought they deserved for doing work that was harder than drug dealing.

> but it's to change their life situation outside of monetary gain
When is that really said? All we saw of their motives was that A) they held animosity towards the boss because of the whole money dispute, and B) they wanted to get revenge for Sorbet/Gelato after they got killed for digging too deep looking for the boss.

Regardless, neither of those motives are good, and neither of them really make it so that the execution team 'deserves' to be ruling the gang morally. We have no real idea how Bruno/Giorno would have/did run the gang after defeating the boss, but at the very least they wanted to change it for the better, even if it was just by a bit, rather than keep it exactly the same and just reaping in money like the execution squad was planning to do after getting revenge.

>it's just not a necessary thing.
Which from your point should mean insertions in dealing pocket drugs to kids by independent or opposite dealers, in or out of passione, wouldn't have much a change under either team, right? I'm probably reading that wrong.
>the original argument I had was that Bruno's gang is 'better' because they're morally better
Using Giorno as the anchor for bruno team's motives, yeah. I can go with it. They're acting rather slightly out of heart, at least.
>which they thought they deserved for doing work that was harder than drug dealing.
which i think is true, sue me
>"to change their life situation outside of monetary gain"
>When is that really said?
I like to believe araki spells everything out for the reader, which is pretty obvious in all the parts, but in the formaggio fight especially (considering it's where the hitman team setup is elaborated on) he's making points about escalating rank and fortune, "getting out of this hellhole", etc.
Definitely putting too much faith on Araki there though, considering he's a much better artist then he is a writer (Although I'll see his characters for qualities that rub off sometimes subjectively even if he didn't entirely intend them to).

>Regardless, neither of those motives are good, and neither of them really make it so that the execution team 'deserves' to be ruling the gang morally.
In favor of the narrative of Vento Aureo, sure. I agree on that at least. Not in how it would actually affect the gang and italy as a whole, the peoples under it, etcetera, but what Araki was going for.
I just think they're all cooler and more likeable than Bruno's team as a whole. Maybe not Bruno himself, but.

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And that's why Giorno wants to take over, explaining his motivation to rule Passione.

Shameless Purple Haze is all about dealing with the drug side of things in Passione. Stop being an anime only OP.

but its not real

Japs can't see beyond their island so when Araki says mafia, he really mean yakuzas. The yakuzas try to maintain an image of being a neighbourhood watch and protecting the streets from the real thugs (the Chinese mafia, the Russians, gangs, etc), also see The thing is you don't fuck with the yakuzas, especially in Japan. Shueisha is part of the establishment so they don't want to piss off yakuzas and again, Japan can't see beyond its island. If they heard mafia, they understand yakuzas

Doesn't mean that its well written. I appreciate the effort on the author's part to try and stitch something together for the aftermath of events but 5's plot is fundamentally broken and badly made that you'd have to start from scratch to make something decent out of it, and it could be done cus it still has alot of neat ideas and the premise and characters are ripe with potential, just badly utilized by Araki.

That’s a fanfic.

Giorno is never stated to be fucking superman, and neither is the cast. He's still a gangster and eventually a mob boss, but he believes his illegal methods are beneficial to Italy in the end. Erasing organized crime is not plausible, so taking it over is the next best thing, especially for someone who already is engaged in criminal activity (remember at the start of the series he is a petty thief and conman). Plus he becomes rich and powerful as a bonus. Not that hard to comprehend.

shut the fuck up faggot

Great point, I hope OP sees it!
useless faggot post

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shhhhhhh Araki didn't think about it at the time
golden hearts bro
my headcanon is that he just stopped selling drugs to kids but kept doing everything else because FUCK adults

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>Giorno is never stated to be fucking superman, and neither is the cast.
But the story sure loves portraying him as a jesus-kun messiah in a story about the mob.
>but he believes his illegal methods are beneficial to Italy in the end.
And it would be nice for those beliefs to be challenged rather than casually affirmed or left without an answer, which still make no sense in the end no matter what way you spin it.
>Erasing organized crime is not plausible, so taking it over is the next best thing
Why not? You're not gonna go out there and kill every single member of the organization, but cutting off the tentacles helps alot to scatter the cockroaches and reduce their influence on society and politics, that's what helps keeping it from being ''organized'' crime. You cannot run a criminal mob and have it be a benevolent force, it's a pure oxymoron.
>remember at the start of the series he is a petty thief and conman
Almost like he could go through some character development from that point on and form a group to sabotage the organization from within. There's your plausible gangSTAR aspect.

See Shueisha wouldn't allow it and even if Araki published it for some miracle, there wouldn't be part 6 because he'd hang on aa rope in his office, die on a car accidente o jump from a building.

Why would that piss them off? It's not even set in Japan or concerning the Yakuza specifically. And if that was such a taboo, there wouldn't be countless movies and video games where they're the clear baddies.

Its not regular drugs, its stand drugs that destroy your body over time, well, regular drugs do that too, but you get the idea

What goodwill, people would still get paid, 99% of then wont give a fuck as long as they can still make a living, the dude just doesn't want to sell drugs to kids

Why doesn't Giorno just use GER to stop crime?

when condensed, can your stand ingest the stand meteorite?
The requiem arrow can pierce your stand directly, so is it possible that some of the meteorite can be taken in by your stand?
It'd be like soul drugs. Then they would be destroying your body AND your soul, except physically.
Or, well, metaphysically. Spiritually.

They don't need to know that, or they could think he is just some succesor, the point is, the Boss wasn't a public figure they could get attached too

>or start buying from other groups
>hasn't read purple haze feedback

He is right tho, the whole point of diavolo is people not knowing Who he is

Because he can use his regular stand for it

>Why would that piss them off? It's not even set in Japan or concerning the Yakuza specifically.
Because Japan is a swamp. Also it's very obvious Araki was writing Passione as yakuzas, or more as the idealized version of the yakuzas you can find on countless Japanese media. You can argue Araki was taking inspiration from The Godfather and similar Italian mob movies but the way they're presented and their emphasis on brotherhood and determination is definitely Japanese.

>And if that was such a taboo, there wouldn't be countless movies and video games where they're the clear baddies.
That depend on the media and how much control the yakuzas have over that area. Portraying them as bad people is totally cool but they always have to be scary and emphasize that they're benefitial for society at the long term. The yakuzas see themselves as samurais and samurais once in a while have to cut people for the nation's sake. Also JJBA is on the establishment, not some obscure manga nobody is going to read. Children has to learn to respect the yakuzas

But he can just become rich really easily with GE alone, why would he allow crime to exists if he is supposed to be righteous

they fought and it didn't

I think its also worth making a distinction between the two personalities/souls, once was kind of strung a long and in the end died without extreme suffering, the other killed his own mother and adoptive father, and potentially a whole town, + who knows how many people to fuel his eternal high, the irony being that in the end he will suffer an eternal low

Always pack two coffins, protip of the day

To /blog/ for a second, nothing pisses me off more than hanging with posh mates who insist Diavolo isn't that bad because "he just sells drugs to kids", those guys are completely ignorant as to what goes on in actual drug dens and it pisses me off as someone living in the ghetto trying to survive that shit.

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STOP. PUSHING. FANFICS.

And now they're actively trying to slide jojo threads off the catalog by making a flood of low effort threads that will probably get less than 20 replies each.
People who actually hate jojo are the shittiest elements this board has ever had the misfortune of enduring. All of these underhanded tactics just to make people stop talking about what they dont like, good grief. I just wish normal people were as vindictive and stupid as they are so they could get a taste of their own medicine but as it stands, we have too much respect for such shenanigans. I really wish we didn't though. They deserve to have everything they enjoy shat upon and endlessly nit picked until THEY no longer want to discuss THEIR shit.

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I'll bump this one too just to piss the antis off.
Work yourselves into a shoot and get banned, please.

Bruh...

>even if he has to kill hundreds of thousands to do it

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