Streaming

It's a substantial source of income to the stream service providers and the anime production committes. Where the stream service providers often sit.
Actual wages and work conditions for animation studies has not changed, in fact they've gotten worse. They have less creative freedom due to foreign interference, tighter schedules because of the increasing number of anime in the market as a result of foreign demand. Together with the dwindling workforce, continued outsourcing and lack of fresh blood and talent in the market and increasing studio bankruptcies I'd say you have a veritable ticking timebomb.
Fuck off you nigger shill

Streaming hurts every industry, look at the state of the music industry.

Spotify is basically a scam artist that siphons ad revenue out of the pockets of actual musicians and barely pays back. The problem is musicians are now forced to put their music onto streaming platforms or they won't get any exposure due to the "if it's not on spotify I'm not gonna listen to it lol" mentality. You can see the same shit happening with Crunchyroll whenever they fail to acquire a certain license. If you want to contribute then buy physical ALWAYS, see

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According to the anime industry report, in Japan itself, domestic streaming revenues (13.6 billion yen) has surpassed revenues from BD sales (11.7 billion yen). Revenues from selling licenses to foreign companies, be it to TV chains or streaming services, has also increased again to 52.4 billion yen.
The relevant people in Japan who make anime, aka the producers, are quite happy with the constant steady flow of money they get through streaming.

It's not a bad way to help support what you like.
However, the quality is too shit in my opinion, so I download the show and then purchase BDs instead. Fewer middle-men means the creators get more of the money too, which is great.

>claims they co produced Citrus
>they actually didn't have anything to with it
>they licensed it.... to stream on their site....
Thanks for reaffirming how scum bag and liars they are

If the studios wouldnt be getting money CR wouldnt be getting the license, simple as that.

They did co produce citrus though, otherwise every show they would license would be on that list.

You buy physical to support an specific studio/creator, when you pay for an streaming service is like getting taxed, your money just flows and is usefull but it supports the anime industry itself, not an specific individual or company.

>buying
Why would I buy when I can get it for free? All of this is to forward the plan of socialism.

They fund bad anime.

No, it's unfortunately not that simple. It's perfectly doable to hold companies and workers hostage by telling them that if they don't do what you say, you won't give them money. Specially if you already owe them money and they're small and vulnerable.

>animation studios hoarding money and not paying their employees is somehow CrunchyRolls fault

They didn't produce it in any way or form. They streamed it on their website.
>"An anime television series adaptation, directed by Takeo Takahashi and animated by Passione, aired on AT-X between January 6 and March 24, 2018.[28] Naoki Hayashi is in charge of overseeing scripts and Izuro Ijuuin is in charge of designing the characters and is credited as chief animation director. Lantis is producing the music, while Infinite is credited with producing the anime.[5] The opening theme is "Azalea" (アザレア Azarea) by Nano Ripe, and the ending theme is "Dear Teardrop" by Mia Regina.[29] Crunchyroll simulcast the series while Funimation is streaming the English dub.[30]"
For them to lie and claim they're a producer when they clearly weren't is so risky, only a retard intern would think it's okay

They sat on the fucking production committee, lining their pockets with money that supposedly went "to the creators". It's a very lucrative business to co-produce anime when you can just get paid twice for doing something.

All your money, no matter if it's for streaming or buying shitty nendos or whatever goes towards the producers first and foremost. Always them, and not the dumb stupid creators, or even worse, those stupid shitty otaku animators in their shitty little animation studios. The creator does of course get a cut for providing the intellectual property, but the majority profit goes towards the money sponsors who financed the production of the show in the first place.

>claims they're a producer for everything they happen to stream
Didn't know crunchyroll was run by chuunis

Next thing you're gonna tell me that Crunchyroll had no say in Yaginuma's firing.

if you do streaming at least
AT LEAST
dont fucking pay for it and stream from 9anime or some other free shit

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There's no proof they even sat on production committees, none of those anime cite CR as producers to begin with

No, buying merchandise is what actually produces revenue. Wherever you put your money however generally does not go directly back to the studio that made the show you liked. The system there is fucked, it's why KyoAni did what it did with adapting little shitty IPs it owns, that's one of the only ways to keep some of it.

In CR's case it goes to TV Tokyo, the broadcaster network, not the studios. This is analogous to how they need to pay broadcasters in Japan for airing slots, not the other way around like it normally goes.

Literally ALL of this except maybe video quality still holds true, while this old chart obviously doesn't account for the off idea that someone could be willing to pay to stream badly subbed anime because who would be that retarded, right?
God, we were so naive.

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You're mistaking the production committee for the producers.
I can assure you that the producers get screwed too when the animation studio gets screwed.

The flash part is outdated too, even illegal malware infested streaming sites use HTML5 now.

Compared to what ? Downloading for free ? Then yes. Compared to JP BDs ? Probably not, but these are incredibly expensive, I mostly stick to CR and licensed BDs.
The quality is still an issue but for some anime, it can be surprisingly good (Euphonium is almost BD quality). It's good enough as far as I am concerned.

No, they were on the production committee for citrus.

translate this page and go to the related works section, you will see citrus listed there

ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crunchyroll

Everything else still applies though, and CR didn't get rid of Flash until very recently.

Paying a western company for anime is for retards.

That doesn't mean anything, as it has no citation.

Theoretically I'd support company that had a software that would temporally download high quality episode's with good subs. They would also charge you like $15 a season for any show and you'd get a discount for having a subscription when you want to buy the complete show. it would also be shown that most of the revenue earned would go to the show's studio that me or other people supported.

That would never happen so i'll just by merchandise.

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Have a guest pass op
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Yes, obviously, but your money goes directly towards the producers of that studio that you are supporting, if you just want to DIRECTLY support someone then just pay to their patreon or however the fuck it's called

Yeah i don't really see CR doing that with Anime studios, maybe some big ass Japanese TV company but not a mediocre streaming site

I think they pay upfront for the license

Except that's exactly what has happened with many shows they've "co-produced". It's a common, albeit scummy practice in this industry.

>funds the production of anime.
They actually aren't that important. They're just one of the production committee and they got stream exclusive through that and no stream revenue ever went to creator.

None of this chart holds true anymore really. And its biased. Streaming is the far better option in the end.

Here, this the Japanese equivalent for IMDB.
And this guy, Hideyuki Saita, works for Crunchyroll as a business manager and sits on the production committee on the anime CR funds.

allcinema.net/prog/show_p.php?num_p=948069

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The licensing rights have already been purchased. The japanese company already made their money. The streamers are trying to get their money back. If you already saw the anime before it got licensed then it really doesn't matter because you beat the other company to the punch.
Bonus: If you don't sell your raws or subs then its even better and you are safe.

There two different kinds of streams.

Watching Live streams and watching CR/Funi streams

Watching live streams of anime as they are aired in Japan is acceptable.

Paying for shit service to watch an anime already two hours old from CR/Funi is NOT okay.

You're correct but also the way you type is annoying, so fuck you

They've been doing this for more than a decade, you can tell from the chart that the foreign contribution, with CR being a small part of among every country buying licenses to sell BD/DVD or broadcasting on TV, wasn't much until 2015 when China joined in on streaming midnight anime.

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It's complicated. Purchasing licensing rights is an immediate chunk of cash, and one that's renewable if the licensee opts to license the series again. It's also one that primarily benefits the member of the production committee that holds the licensing rights. Which is usually the disc publisher or a TV station. Sometimes it's an unusual member, like the studio themselves. Crunchyroll received the license for Uchouten Kazoku 2 from PA Works, while 1 was licensed from Yomuri Television.

This money fails to trickle down to the studios and anime production staff. Studios can only benefit from a title's success if they invest some of their own meager funds into the production. Even if the anime is a big success, outside of the director, both key and lower figures do not see additional income. From animators to production assistants to painters to digital photographers, they were already paid and do not see any of the potential rewards from the art they made. That's an intrinsic problem with capitalism.

Do whatever you want. Your views don't directly help out the creators, or even indirectly. Piracy is moral and good.

How does Yea Forums do it? Even with all it's flaws it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other media boards.

Has Netflix ever been part of a production committe?

Not until Eden. Even their exclusives like Devilman Crybaby, B the Beginning, Hero Mask, 7seeds, etc were funded by outside companies. In the case of B, for example, it was funded all by Production IG.

But Netflix isn't a huge player in the game in Japan. They're one of many streaming services, and not even the most dominant one. When it comes to anime, disc publishers and manga/LN publishers still rule there, and many are happy to give out titles to as many streaming services as will have them, rather than a single service like Netflix.

Funny thing is that Yea Forums torrents stream rips like HorribleSubs

Did you think they could air anime a day before every other channel without being in the committee?

Torrent, but buy merch and blu rays if you want to support specific animes/studios. There's a bunch of uncertainties going on with Crunchyroll and streaming services in general, I'd not spend a dorrar on it knowing it funds gutter trash like this youtube.com/watch?v=PZSOGZFfSDk

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literally autism and love for craft

Jesus I had erased that shit from my memory
Watching it again made me puke a little

It is, no matter how much Yea Forums denies it.