What the FUCK was that ending. I just wanted to see mecha kaiju battles

Anno was sick of all of these robot shows that mindlessly glorify action and destruction while ignoring the real human cost of making a 14 year old fight monsters of unknown origin in a machine that does not apparently obey physics. The psychological and emotional cost is unimaginable, and it costs Shinji everything.

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You got the best fight of the entire series in the first half of EoE.

The second half isn't about that. In the second half it's time to end it all, and leave forever.

The entire show is a contemplation on how humans being can never truly connect with each other (and understand each other) despite the desire to, and the pain/loneliness caused by this. The final two episodes has shinji choosing between giving up all of humanity's individuality, so that everyone can understand each other and fill the holes in each others hearts, or keep individuality as well as keeping the pain/loneliness that comes with that. Shinji descides that destroying individuality (at fields) and becoming one is no way to live, and ends up keeping individuality. He learns to love himself despite his flaws as that's what makes him human. Hence the Congratulations. This was really simplified and I skipped over a lot of nuances, but this is the general idea.
This isn't really what anno is trying to convey. Also piloting the eva isn't what causes shinjis suffering directly.

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great post

>tfw I genuinely can't connect with even my closest friends and family.
Shinji's struggle has always resonated with me on a very deep level. I can't shake the immense alienation and loneliness I feel no matter what I do, and as I grow older, it has only gotten worse.

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That ending is what happens when faggots want to fix something that isn't broken, the first ending was amazing

>Shinji's struggle has always resonated with me on a very deep level. I can't shake the immense alienation and loneliness I feel no matter what I do, and as I grow older, it has only gotten worse.
You're not alone in your loneliness. It's why NGE has such appeal

Shut the fuck up, contrarian faggot.

I know. Knowledge of that however does nothing to alleviate that loneliness.

At least here we can be lonely together.

They ran out of money.
The episodes highlight the conflict between capitalism and art.

Fuck off user, I don't give a shit what everyone else thinks, the ending was great and was a good conclusion to Shinji's character arc

It was time, not money. At to be fair, EoE was to ambitious for two 20 minute episodes.

So was EoE but without abandoned plot lines.

Asuka vs MP Evas is one of the greatest mecha fight scenes of all time

Oh, is that so? Same shit happened with their previous project Nadia.
>fall behind schedule
>hire another studio to make a filler arc to buy time
That would have hurt Eva quite a bit, so I am content with what we got.

Can it still be considered "mecha" when all mechas are basically living creatures?

Meckaiju

Meh, personally I hated it and found it to disregard Shinji's prior character development, but to each their own

Arguably, EoE is also a little too ambitious for two 40-minute episodes. I wish it was 2 hours long. The final attack already starts less than 6 minutes into the movie.

But how did it disregard it? It's the same character arc. 25&6 just went more verbose about it than EoE, that's all.

bro, what the FUCK did i just watch? mind blown! like, what even happened? it was a total mind fuck!
what the fuck were they smoking when they made this? heheheheh it was soo...random!
im gonna have to let youtube explain this one to me!

>Meh, personally I hated it and found it to disregard Shinji's prior character development
How? He was definitely at his lowest(of the low) just after Kaworu's death. Also at the start of instrumentality he also had to deal with the deaths of Misato and Asuka just minutes prior. Yeah he'd be a bit shaken I imagine

Yes, numbskull. You still consider something shoujo even if it's almost entirely men who read it; you still consider something anime even if it barely has or doesn't have animation.

In EoE we never actually see Shinji stop being a bitch and learn to love himself, instead he just let's everyone die and brings Asuka back because he can't cope alone, that's absolute fucking shit

Was it kino?

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Nobody dies in EoE, they're just left in tang juice with an option to return to real life whenever they are ready. Asuka just happened to be one of the first to do so, Shinji didn't force her to come.

Shinji was still a fucking bitch who never learnt to love himself though, the ending was overall less heartwarming, it wasn't the ending Shinji deserved

>he just let's everyone die
Everyone "dies" (not really) before he gets a chance to do anything about it.
>and brings Asuka back because he can't cope alone
I always had a feeling that Asuka brought herself back (just like everyone else can after the events of EoE), not Shinji. He was surprised to see her there, and tried to choke her to make sure that it wasn't another dream-like sequence (in which she wouldn't react to it).

this but unironically

Everyone gets gooped into one giant collectivist utopia, free of fear or anxiety or any worldly desires, but Shinji and Asuka hold onto their individuality, maintaining their freedom at the cost of retaining their emotional scars.

Well, there's always that fan edit that splices 26 scenes into instrumentality of EoE, so you might want to try that.

So the whole point of Instrumentality was that people are lonely and it sucks sometimes?

>Everyone "dies" (not really) before he gets a chance to do anything about it.
If Shinji hadn't of been a Bitch throughout EoE he probably would have had a fair chance of stopping instrumentality before it even started, especially if he'd of worked with Asuka
>I always had a feeling that Asuka brought herself back (just like everyone else can after the events of EoE), not Shinji. He was surprised to see her there, and tried to choke her to make sure that it wasn't another dream-like sequence (in which she wouldn't react to it).
That's fully plausible but it seems like a slightly strange choice given the theme of Shinji relying on Asuka presented throughout the film, I imagine what's more likely is Shinji was trying to kill her to prevent her from seeing the shameful thing he just did
I might have to look into that, sounds promising
Something like that, honestly I never really liked the idea of instrumentality, it messes with my suspension of disbelief, if it was possible no human would want to do that

>if shinji hadn't been a bitch
Please inform me why shinji would want to save a bunch of people who couldn't care less about him who forced him to kill the one person who ever showed him affection/compassion. Also he though asuka was still in a coma until she was already fighting the experimental evas.

watched the first episode and part of the second
bailed halfway through because of how awful and cringey shinji is
I hate the useless MC trope but I'm aware it was probably NGE that started it

Shinji is not useless, awful, or cringey

why the fuck did they design evas so that the pilots take damage the same way the eva does (i.e Asuka getting shredded in EoE)

Because in Japan, personal desires are a sin. At least in Anno's eyes. He would prefer everyone else to be office drones, with him being the exempt, since he doesn't practice what he preaches. He made it even clearer in 3.0, punishing Shinji for not choosing the bigger picture.

>shinji was so unremarkable and unlikable that he got kicked out of the tang

is he the worst charecter ever written?

He's the only character pathetic enough for me to relate to.

>how humans being can never truly connect with each other (and understand each other) despite the desire to, and the pain/loneliness caused by this

Really? That's it? That's absolutely ridiculous, you yourself don't even know who you really are, heck even google knows you better than yourself, why are they so depressed over not being able to know about every detail of a person? What's left when you know everything about something besides boredom? Not knowing everything is what pushes me to learn more, about things or people

>He learns to love himself despite his flaws as that's what makes him human. Hence the Congratulations.

Yeah, I'd give a sarcastic congratulations too since that kind of shit you should figure out in 5 minutes

Grow up kid, find other people you like, it's that simple

If you cant "connect with them" is becauee you're not expressing your feelings in a way they can understand

Seriously, how old you are? Because you're the reason a shitty anime like Evangelion has any high ratings

>especially if he'd of worked with Asuka
He didn't learn Asuka was fighting until Misato came to his rescue. By the time he got to Unit 01, the entire room was covered in that bakalite slime shit so he wasn't able to pilot it if he wanted to until 01 made that decision for him.

>i watch goblin slayer and isekai; the movie

>relating with Shinji
>not growing up and relating with Asuka because of extreme self-worth issues and having the only thing holding up your fragile ego be one or two different traits that define your pillars of self worth

GAY

I take pride in having never watched or read anything Evangelion-related ever.

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Why does she resist?

shes also the one who moves in for the kiss

what a whore

Never watched them as I also think moe is trash to please otakus fantasies

Im more interested in animes with a deep and coherent history, and good characters such as LOGH

Me too nugger

Girls are scared of their own shadow

Episodes 25 and 26 are literally Anno spelling out what the point has been all along for that one retard that still doesn't get it after it's been implied, suggested, and downright stated several times already. It completely does away with subtlety, the cornerstone of what most people deem "pretentious", yet people still call it pretentious anyway because they are just that dumb. As the platinum booklets state, in a turn of phrase I really like personally, "the relationship between 'theme' and 'story' is reversed" - that is to say, the "theme" is told and the "story" must be inferred, rather than the other way around.
Congratulations, user. You are that retard.