Nanatsu no Taizai 317
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Why did Mael wait so long to give Escanor the grace back, what the fuck?
Based on Mael's reactions, giving him back the grace will likely kill him or something.
This garbage is painful to follow at this point.
>Mael is dead
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YO YO YO YO YO WHAT IT IS MOTHERFUCKERS
Still better written than Black Clover and BnHA.
no you dumbass. It will kill Escanor. Mael as he is, isn't the kind to care about his life.
That was pretty brutal. How much can you even get away with in a shounen magazine?
Also the handshake was a really nice idea.
Those two were never good to begin with.
Nanatsu's first part was legitimately good hence why seeing it in such a sorry state is awful.
So who's going to get the The One treatment? It would make sense to save it for the DK but in that case Escanor will be too weak to fight the Indura. Or perhaps he'll learn to activate his muscle form at will like what happened during the tournament.
Could also be he got stronger by seeing how Mael manages the grace.
can't Mael just cure spam him, Grace cancer seems pretty minor compared to what he got this chap
So what's even the point of Escanor now?
All that's left is the DK anyways.
I'm a bit disappointed since this probably means we won't be seeing peak Mael unless they are somehow sharing the Grace.
The series is called the Seven Deadly Sins so it shouldn't be much of a surprise that they would all be participating in the final boss fight. As far as the DK goes, don't forget that once he recovers his full powers he will have access to Ruler and/or God and possibly Ominous Nebula as well. Ruler and God together are unbeatable, since one forces the opponent to use healing spells and the other one makes the user immune to those healing spells, so it's probably not going to be both but I guess Mel's magic might just bypass it.
So Escanor has high pain tolerance or something, that was a pretty heavy beatdown and he still managed to keep standing.
adrenalines a bitch.
Maybe his Grace always fucked him up but he just manned the pain
Thats pretty much what it did given he was slowly dying already and we seen him cough up blood. If anything with it being stated how a Grace would tear a human apart Escanors been demonstrating some crazy endurance surviving with it for so long.
I always disliked Escanor, but I really liked him in this chapter (and the last one too).
Desperate yet stoic last stands always pump me up.
Then fuck off and stop bitching. Are you a woman or what?
You and your ilk are here in every thread like beat wives, just pull the fucking plug already losers.
what a fucking cuck
>the handshake
Nnngh.
Nakaba is one of the worst writers I've ever seen but he has a great sense for presentation, this page is excellent.
So Escanor's fighting the baby Indura but of course he's no match for it.
The others asked him why he's doing that even when he's more injured than them. The Lion's Sin asked them if they ever got hit by the Captain. He's saying it was a daytime and he was arrogant but it was so painful that he'll never forget and compare to that his current state is nothing.
He's wondering what would the others think of him if they saw him like this but said no they wouldn't laugh at him.
(The page already translated by FKS)
Mael finally come and healed him. Howzer is really happy to see the Angel of Death lol.
Mael is saying that he heard Escanor's prayers and he came to save as many people as possible for the incoming crisis but if it's to fight the Demon King he don't think he can help him. Against him he's nothing, he said.
Escanor stopped him saying he don't ask him to fight for him but to lend him "Sunshine".
Mael said it impossible since his body is already near it's limit because of the Grace and he use it again to fight he'll die. Escanor replied that it doesn't matter. Mael said even with Sunshine he can't fight the Demon King he'll just throwing away his life. Escanor said he know he can't fight him but he want to fight again with everyone else. If they're fighting for others people's life he want to fight for their life, so no he's not throwing his life away.
"There's still time before noon"
"Yeah thanks"
End
>almost 4 hours
>25 replies
just let it rest
By this point Escanor should just ditch Merlin and just go on bro adventures with Mael and Gowther. Now that I think about it, would it work as a sitcon? You have the calm one, the weird one and the multiple persona one.
I'm not too worried for him, Merlin will probably save him somehow
>Mael is saying that he heard Escanor's prayers
The prayer call that saved Britannia.
Maybe the Grace just made him weaker?
Man I remember when Gil and the other holy knights werent such a band of useless jobbers
So why does Mael stay the same during Sunlight but Escanor turns into the fucking hulk?
MY DICK!
Like, about midway through the first arc ?
Can Escanor save this series once again or its too late?
>Mael said even with Sunshine he can't fight the Demon King he'll just throwing away his life.
Nah, just better than MHA, fighting a actual menacing and ultrapowerful demon is hundred times better done in BC than NNT could dream about.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Yeah, so powerfull that he hasn´t killed anyone yet.
If he can make the demon king and the great goddess cry I would consider it saved, otherwise no.
He would be to powerful. Sunshine in The One form + a archangel in base as a user basically makes him 10C meliodas level especially since a human like Ban can fuck the DK up.
let's be real, Griamor and Howzer were jobbers from the start, both got destroyed by earlier game, no weapon, human sized (so physically weaker) Diane.
So....literally just in their first appareance, this is how long their non-jobber career lasted. Fucking useless pieces of shit!
Fair point, but he did succeed in his keikaku.
> ignoring context
If you are a underage fag who actually measures power by how many lifes one took than the DK is a fuckng nobody as well, hell, hendrickson in demon form is than more powerful than him according to your retarded logic.
>but if it's to fight the Demon King he don't think he can help him. Against him he's nothing, he said.
>Mael an archangel with sunshine who was claimed to be the big one of biggest factors in the war is so far below the DK that it's pointless for him to even try
>Meanwhile Elizabeth who has done fuck all for the 50 chapters is actually strong enough to hurt
>not to mention the sins will probably fight too
Man get the fuck out of here.
Nobody knows, Mael uses it completely different too. The only valid speculation is that it has something to do with Escanor's original magic.
Dont know about the supreme deity but he should humiliate the demon king at least once. He already trashed all of his sons so why not complete trash the dad too
I miss badass Diane.
Who is he even going to help at this point? Aside from Diane and Gowther aren't the rest of the sins stronger than his meme transformation?
Who? I forgot about her just as Nakaba did.
>Ban without grace or commandment completely bully DK
>But Escanor even with ONE pffft
Lmao.... What a jobber
Ban was only managing thanks to Mel attacking the DK from inside.
>Can't use any of the big earth magic in a team fight because everyone else would be caught in it
>Can't use the magic lightning rod because of the underground animals
>all her other techniques are either useless or just not used
Poor girl is the only one with multiple drawbacks in her moves.
He's still strong, you need every hand available to defeat the DK at this point
>Managing to bully DK
Ofcourse, even Eli is better than Escacuck
Ban vs DK and Meliodas vs DK is one of the examples of how low this series has fallen. It was never great but my god that was bad
>Mother Catastrophe is still the most impressive thing she's done and that was like 250 chapters ago
I think she will get a big moment soon. King managed to completely eclipse Gloxinia so it would make sense for Diane to surpass Drole as well. I expect the 2 remaining concept Indura to show up so maybe that will give her an opportunity to shine.
Nakaba pretty much tried to make him like Ussop.
What? Gil was being toyed with literally from the first moment he showed up in the white forest.
Once again Escanor is going to go get shit done because he'll pull another insane powerup out of Nakaba's ass while making the rest of the Sins look like fucking jokes At least this shit series will end with a Righteous Sunset on this crapshoot.
i'm pretty sure none of the pre powerup sins could defeat that baby indura
BC is trash, also that demon isn’t menacing at all. Just because he says “kill” a bunch of times doesn’t make him scary he just sounds like an edgy kid.
To be fair, the Demon King and the Supreme Deity never directly participated in the war (because it's most likely a game for those two) and the Demon King as he is now still hasn't regained his strength. It raises a question why Mael wouldn't attack him while he hasn't but eh.
>Hasn't actually read the manga
So what, did the Sins killed that Indura despite it not doing anything wrong or is it still alive?
>l-look how menacing he is!
>he keeps saying die die die!!
Grow up kid
>Literal manchild unable to understand the context of a children's manga
Sad user.
riveting dialogue right there
He said that he (and his fellow demons?) goes out of his way to flip rocks over, find insects on them, take the insects, tear their limbs and find a pool of dirty water to drown them in. All the while trying to verbally belittle them, apparently.
I'd rather have a demon that is completely evil than the half-baked "demons are people too" Nakaba served us. At least in BC the author doesn't waste time pretending demons could get along with humans when they literally spent the last 10 volumes trying to genocide them and eating their soul.
Nah. The baby Indura is roughly as strong and sturdy as grey Hendy, but moves slowly, is about as smart as a dog, has no magic and doesn't seem to be able to regenerate so he's actually much weaker than grey Hendy. Ban was immortal so he would have eventually won, especially because he could have drained its strength to buff himself. Gowther could force a draw with mind control or perhaps manipulate it to kill itself. Diane could kill it by dropping a mountain on it. King can levitate, petrify and has the sunflower nuke so he would've likely won eventually. Mel would either defeat it in demon form or just use revenge counter after a while.
Then go back to your trash manga with one dimensional characters
Read properly. The NnT races are all grey. Demon can be soul eating monsters but they still are people combined with the fact that they eat human's souls because they hate them.
All of the races are full of assholes, overall.
>pretending demons could get along with humans
You mean like the main character?
Looking back, Nanatsu's first part feels like a completely different work.
feels like acnologia
>Buys into the meme that Asta is a Demon
Speedreader-kun please.
You mention of revenge counter reminds me that we most likely won't see good Mel interacting with Chandler.
Literally every demons except Meliodas is a fucking asshole. Nakaba completely failed in making any of them even slightly sympathetic.
> they eat human's souls because they hate them.
Yeah they hate them because humans dared not wanting to get their souls fucking eaten by demons and sealed them in their trash dimension
>All of the races are full of assholes, overall.
Oh yeah because I'm sure if demons didn't exist one of the other races would've risen up and taken the whole soul-eating and genocide business
Not really.
I’m talking about meliodas getting along with humans dude, keep up
He was talking about Meliodas you fag. And you dare call him a speedreader ?
Meliodas is the only demon that is nice anyway. He's an exception.
Ok legit my fault this time, I misread the context.
>Literally every demons except Meliodas is a fucking asshole
Papa Gowther, Graliza, that small demon from Low/Rou's flashback, Peronia, Derrierie's sister did nothing wrong.
>Yeah they hate them because humans dared not wanting to get their souls fucking eaten by demons and sealed them in their trash dimension
No, it's because they sided with the goddesses back then.
The last time Diane ever felt impressive to me was all the way back to this chapter here. Not just the big moves she could create by manipulating the earth, but the fact that it felt like being a giant actually made her stronger instead of just an unnecessarily huge support whose size made her an easy target.
why are you even here
Is there actual fantasy elements in the serie ?
(Sword/Quests/adventures/sorcery/monsters)
or is it just DBS type fighting, where everyone (demon/giants Angels) are really humaoids with power level.
Because any time i watch its someone fighting their friends or the ennemy or the ennemy that'll become a friend
Better than snore academia or cuck clover
Papa Gowther was a demon ? I completely forgot about it, I thought the Demon King just plucked a pwoerful human wizard and told him he was working with the demons now.
Literally who ?
Literally who ?
Peronia was clearly on the side of the demons
Maybe if Derriere's sister's race didn't have such an appetite for human soul and generally making the universe a shittier place for everyone she would've lived.
DBS type fighting
>Then fuck off and stop bitching. Are you a woman or what?
>You and your ilk are here in every thread like beat wives, just pull the fucking plug already losers.
Lmgao, what an ass-blatsed faggot we have here
I follow and like both series but I don't agree with you. The problem here is that you are relying on your preconceived notions of what a demon(or devil) should be instead of what it's presented as in the story. In NnT they are a clan similar to the other existing clans instead of some kind of otherworldly evil spirits that they seem to be in BC. A group of biological creatures that have their own civilization wouldn't realistically be completely evil without any kind of redeeming traits as that would conflict with reproduction and maintaining order in a larger social setting. I also disagree with your view that a villain that is just purely evil is a good thing. It makes this simple and to the point but it also means there's not going to be much depth in the conflict since one side has no actual motives or characterization beyond enjoying the suffering of lesser creatures. Personally I'm expecting the devils to get more nuanced goals and personalities once more of them show up, if only to prevent them from being too samey, but so far the devil is not that interesting to me.
>the author doesn't waste time pretending demons could get along with humans
There's a pretty good chance something like that will eventually happen with the anti-magic devil. I mean how else would that situation be dealt with? It's the source of Asta's anti-magic so it can't be killed or removed without leaving Asta powerless and it obviously can't just possess Asta's body because that would leave the series without a protagonist. Cooperation is the only plausible resolution just like with the fox in Naruto.
alright as i suspected, not what i am looking for
(nothing wrong with DBS type fighting and powerlevels)
Yeah they sided with the goddesses because demons were genocidal assholes
It would be kind of hard for that to happen now that Cusack made mincemeat out of him. A flashback is probably the only option, perhaps a longer story that explains how the DK came to possess so much power, what the relationship between the gods is, what Mel and Zel's mother is like and why/when he decided he needed a new body.
>Papa Gowther was a demon ?
Yes.
>Literally who?
Papa Gowther's lover.
>Literally who ?
That small demon that was picked and nursed back to health by Rou's/Low's village (Low is the guy that with his buddies started killing the guards of Stigma's gate to the Goddess realm and was reincarnated into Oslow).
>Peronia was clearly on the side of the demons
She still did nothing bad.
>Maybe if Derriere's sister's race didn't have such an appetite for human soul and generally making the universe a shittier place for everyone she would've lived
Literally your headcanon, she was one of the thousands of helpless civilians that didn't know how to fight and ended up captured in one of Ludo's terror raids.
Besides these individuals there are other noncombatant civilians and those lesser demons that would actually listen to Elizabeth and stop attacking despite the consequences they would most likely face for desertion.
>Personally I'm expecting the devils to get more nuanced goals and personalities once more of them show up, if only to prevent them from being too samey
I mean did see how Tabata characterized most of the elves?
>She still did nothing bad.
Yeah, I think that say it all. You consider that a demon who doesn't show any amount of remorse over supporting people who were planning to kill every human in Brittania "did nothing bad". Great standards there.
>Literally your headcanon
Ah yes, because most demons we've seen onscreen were pacifists.
Fuck off, Nakaba tried to make the demon a "grey" race but completely failed because the bad outweights the good from such a wide margin sparing demons in the setting is logically a retarded move.
Nah, they sided with the goddesses because they were brainwashed by their magic.
>genocide
Literally what the goddesses are guilty of
>Literally what the goddesses are guilty of
genociding a race that will genocide you at the first occasion is not evil, it's just being reasonable.
I'm sure the demons would agree with that
Man i rembemer a time meantioning its almost noon would give this fanbase goose bumps
>You consider that a demon who doesn't show any amount of remorse over supporting people who were planning to kill every human in Brittania "did nothing bad". Great standards there
Zeldris wanted enough human sacrifices to break the seal on the rest of his clan, not to kill every last human there is. Teachers were bloodthirsty but they just wanted to see their students win. The only Commandment with the explicit desire to genocide all humans was Gloxinia.
>Ah yes, because most demons we've seen onscreen were pacifists
Most demons we've seen were warriors, of the named demon characters most were the ones who got the top places in their warrior hierarchy. Comparing Derrierie's sister to any of them is going too far.
>but completely failed
I don't necessarily disagree with you because I thought Nakaba had prepared a nice opportunity to redeem Derrierie and Monspiet, and half-redeem Fraudrin but he didn't use it so the three of them remained complete villains in my opinion.
Most of them haven't really been characterized much so far since their mental state is affected by the curse and they are too busy to interact with each other during the invasion. I like what was done with the main ones though.
This goes both way, you know.
What a badass.
I enjoy both NnT and BC but recognize that both are flawed in their own ways. NnT has higher highs but also lower lows, while BC is more structurally consistent.
>but also lower lows
Top kek
>my manga is bad but at least it's not shit
Never change Yea Forums
consistently shit?
Nah, it's great. A fun rollecoaster ride.
Yes
>can't be critical of a manga you enjoy
>have to circlejerk about how perfect it is and how great the author's dick tastes
I think you want the One Piece thread
At least the goddesses didn't enslave mankind or tried anything particularly dickish when the demons were gone. Granted they were sealed too so their option was limited, but they at least give mostly an impression of indifference to humans affairs.
How the fuck is "b-but those manga are worse" is being critical you fucking retard?
Which did it first?
Those are just reactionary shitposts
NnT
HxH thread*
in the first arc she was the physically strongest until demon Hendry came in, after all.
Didn't this shit end some months ago?
No, that was a trick ending!
>In another timeline most of the Sins aren't useless compared to Mel for 90% of the story
>The Arthur plotline is correctly developed
>Goddesses get as much exposition as Demons
Oh boy, I remember the whole "Rhita is many times heavier than Gideon" Q&A. I love Escanor, but that one was not necessary.
Escanor will fight Supreme Deity Mode Arthur. The other Sins are already enough for the Indura and DK belings to Meliodas & Elizabeth. He'll team up with Hawk and his mom.
I'm fine with that, Escanor is an exception thanks to his "is super way half of the day" gimmick. He's the incarnation of absolutely weakling and absolute power in one.
Don't get me wrong, I like the way his power set works, and I like the character himself. Hell, I don't mind him being the strongest Sin, but Rhitta being heavier was just pure wank without any reason behind it.
Well, for me it also depends what's the reason behind it. I can see Escanor asking it to be as tough and heavy as possible since he can handle it. Unlike the other weapons, rhitta is a power tank, for one thing, it can store sunshine's energy. That can explain why it's particularly heavy, maybe it's made of special material to handle sunshine.
Ackchually the denser a material is the more solar energy it can absorb.
Because Mael is an archangel, meaning he has a much higher base. Think of the power given by Sunshine as water. Mael's body would be some pressure container that keeps its shape even when you apply more water under higher pressure, while a human body is ballon. More water, higher pressure, and it bulks out. No wonder normal humans simply explode with the power, like a ballon overfilled would explode. Escanor has superhuman endurance.
I thought this manga had ended?
it was le epic trole by the autho
This
Escanor surviving that long is bullshit
Humans aren't supposed to be able to handle Graces at all. The fact that Escanor's body can somehow manage it is likely important. It's also worth noting that Escanor managed to activate his muscle form at night one time, which is probably related to all of this as well. It certainly makes more sense than Escanor's delusions somehow overriding the limits of Sunshine set by the SD herself.
The asspull here was Merlin having his treasure, not a super super super super super powerful human being an insane fighter when using his best weapon
Is this better?
Demons are assholes so I wouldn't be surprised Induras like to play with their food, so to speak.
>Mael is saying that he heard Escanor's prayers and he came to save as many people as possible for the incoming crisis but if it's to fight the Demon King he don't think he can help him. Against him he's nothing, he said.
Why does this sound like he's just going to sit around instead of helping in the final fights? I get that he's no match for the DK especially without Sunshine but being able to heal Escanor from an armless nugget to full health in seconds already makes him more useful than Diane or Gowther.
why doesn't Merlin just stop his time when it's noon like she did to herself
>more useful than Diane or Gowther
They defeated the Demon King the first time only thanks to Gowther showing Meliodas that the DK's "Elizabeth is totally dead, trust me" was a lie.
She can still defecate, drink and get injured, as well as generally affect the world. Escanor would still change with the passage of the day and get fucked up for overusing Sunshine.
Meant to reply to
>Doesn't rolls for intimidation in battle.
I see that your charisma is low, pleb.
>all the angel's are dead and Escanor is about to get Mael's power again
What if Escanor's real power is the ability to inherit graces, and he's about to get all the graces at once?
Would you accept this powerup or would it be bullshit, Yea Forums?
>he finds that intimidating
Go home kid
It would be shit. Honestly everything about Escanor since the Grace reveal was shit. Pinnacle of human race my ass.
Compares people to vomit as if it's bad, still says he is going to eat them. Says that vomit gathers before him. He says that he (and his fellow demons?) goes out of his way to flip rocks over, find insects on them, take the insects, tear their limbs and find a pool of dirty water to drown them in, all the while trying to verbally belittle them, apparently. Can't just kill, has to ask, but asks too many times.
I think he failed his intimidation check if we were to judge by words alone.
If a human could hold 4 graces at once that's still pretty pinnacle.
No it doesn't.
Yes it does.
The lack of power levels alone makes it a vastly superior part.
Having way more focus on character interactions and actualy having a coherent, well-paced story also helps.
It has been a while since any powerlevel number have been even mentionned. Just ignore the numbers and it's the same thing.
>The lack of power levels alone makes it a vastly superior part.
Power levels did nothing. Even in part 1 most of the fights were pretty much one-sided, with only 3 villains being a serious threat. Even in Part 1 Merlin was the worst and had to be somehow thrown out of the story to not solo demon Hendy,
>actualy having a coherent, well-paced story also helps
So just like Part 2?
At this point nobody can take anything what NnTfags say seriously
>Power levels did nothing.
They made a huge chunk of the cast absolutely irrelevant. Last few chapters are a really good example. We have a story about knights and magic where 99% of knights can't defeat a fucking spawn of a demon. I'm sorry but power levels have destroyed this whole thing and made a lot of fun characters like Howzer impossible to integrate into the narrative.
>So just like Part 2?
No, a part that left 2 fucking Sins without their gaiden and clearly didn't knew what to do with vast majority of the cast is not well-paced at all.