Hamon > Stands, no OP Pokemon bullshit
The main characters have actual character development, motivations and drive the story
The main villains are actually threatening, have real ambitions and aren't mentally ill losers with contradictory personalities (muh quiet life/muh murder, muh everlasting climax/muh anonymity)
The storys are tightly written without endless monster of the week fodder
The supporting characters actually SUPPORT.
>with contradictory personalities
ACDC.
You're right, Battle Tendency is the best animated part because it actually knows how to be fun and cool, in exchange every other part don't know what it want to be until the half or the end of the part, luckily that changes in Stone Ocean and Steel Ball Run, sadly it comes back with Jojolion.
>mentally ill losers with contradictory personalities (muh quiet life/muh murder, muh everlasting climax/muh anonymity)
imagine failing for that bait
Indeed, sir.
Stands>>>>>>Hamon
but the tone of part 2 should've definitely stayed more intact for the latter parts.
Nice argument, loser. I can't imagine what it's like living with shit taste.
>The main villains are actually threatening, have real ambitions and aren't mentally ill losers with contradictory personalities
Part 6 would like to have a word
ok, nigger.
This, but unironically.
I think the main problem of the later parts is that it becomes stand of the week with no real plot. Oponents become one-offs that never show up again so it's hard to really care about them. Araki should do it more like sentai, where you have the fodder of the week but also has important enemies that receive development trough the season.
Anyone else really hopes that part6 gets a dubstep soundtrack like part2 ??
It fits the weird stands and the prison theme and we had basically the jotaro OST rehashed for season 4 and 5.
Based
the ONLY good part.
The anime sure did a better job at hyping the enemies in part 1 & 2 than the rest.
As someone who just reread Battle Tendency this is actually delusional. The worst part of it was Hamon, Araki had stretched himself thin and it wound up being nonsensical garbage. Sure some stands are in but in general they're designed to be infinitely versatile.
I don't care what the anime does when it looks that fucking ugly, sorry. Those filters, christ.
>The supporting characters actually SUPPORT.
Caesar is a dumbass that gets himself killed after a shitty backstory and Lisa Lisa is a background lamp that jobs to her only fight and sweats nervously in the crowd. SBR's worst fights shit all over the best Part 2 has to offer.
>Hamon > Stands
Well, you see, Hamon only had 2 short parts to be showcased and Stands have had 6 parts, so Hamon didn't have enough screen time for hipsters like you to get annoyed with it. The fights within Jojos haven't really changed how they play out, if anything stands add more limits to a characters abilities and makes the tension a little bit stronger in each fight, as opposed to Hamon which could be used for almost anything.
>The main characters have actual character development, motivations and drive the story
Parts 1 and 2 were when Araki only cared about a stereotypical model of a single main character and supporting cast, as opposed to having an entire crew where each member effectively rotates as a main character for a given fight. I can just as easily flip the script and say the supporting cast in parts 1 and 2 were weakly developed, as characters like Speedwagon and the Zeppeli's have weaker motivations and depth compared to Bruno and Koichi, like them or not.
>The main villains are actually threatening, have real ambitions and aren't mentally ill losers with contradictory personalities
Define "actually threatening" and "real ambition" without being subjective. The Jojo villains all have very justified goals that match their twisted personalities.
>The storys are tightly written without endless monster of the week fodder
I will agree that Joseph didn't spend much time fighting minions and really only fought against Straits and the pillar men, where as new enemy stands can keep coming out of nowhere. Part 5 makes does better at contextualizing the enemy stand battles, since it's mostly few boss minions and then the hitman team that stands between Bruno's gang and Diavolo (compared to the endless stands that kept popping up in Parts 3 and 4, sometimes having nothing to do with the bigger story).
Overall I'd say Part 2 had some strong points but isn't some objective "PEAK" for Jojo. That's silly.
Why did no one suspect Okayasu to be the morioh killer? His stand leaves nothing behind and he is a horny incel
>. Oponents become one-offs that never show up again so it's hard to really care about them
Literally not even true with Part 4 but people complain that it never uses the side cast despite them being more relevant than most of Part 1/2's tiny, useless cast.
Part 2 is such a masterpiece, my favorite scene is when Caesar uses Hamon to mind-control a girl during his fight with Joseph, and then later on decries ACDC for doing the exact same thing to Suzy Q. Nevermind how it makes no sense whatsoever for Hamon to control a human, nor is it brought up again.
>no OP bullshit
Did we read the same thing? Part 2 is famous for its ass pulls. It's part of the enjoyment.
>read
He watched the anime and drooled over the filters and cool music.
>incel
Okuyasu is chad
Truly, the best part. Araki's magnum opus. Nothing else even comes close.
>luckily that changes in Stone Ocean
SO is one of the most inconsistent parts and I like it. Jojolion is a thousand times more consistent and it absolutely knows what type of story it is.
At least put Stroheim as best brojojo you useless redditor.
>jojo
>good
LOL call me when you read a REAL manga, fucking zoomers.
>muh willpower asspull magic is so much better than individual-specific abilities that reflect the constitution of their user and their relation to the world around them
people who have this opinion do so because they want hamon to be real and are waiting for their role as harem protagonist to start. Its no wonder they are disappointed...
ok animeonly
hamon is actually garbage, it was only decent in part 1. it's total bullshit in part 2. anyone that wants it back is a moron.
Based
Not to mention it had the best music
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Shame it's wasted on this part
>liking hamon over stands
>thinking there's any character development beyond getting stronger
>thinking any of the other villains besides wamuu are good
>implying the story is tightly written
> suggesting that the supporting characters do anything beyond give color commentary and job
part 2 is still my favorite part
Based, it's good in spite of not because of Hamon.
Extremely shit taste
Star platinum is shit. Stretchy finger move is an asspull. Giving him the same power as the villain because there's literally no way to fight the time stop.
Stands in general suck. Tarot card names meant literally nothing. Part 4 a Ghost goes around stabbing people randomly with the arrow. Part 5 the mob gives random gangsters powers, being smart enough to pass the test rewards you with no power. Part 6 the villain literally just plugs disks into people's brains to give them powers.
People talk about Jojolion and how we haven't seen a "final boss" stand yet, ignoring that Kira evolved his stand and installed a fireball plant cat, El Diablo had two stands and tried to evolve it further, Gay Priest evolved his abilities twice, and the president used Love Train bullshit. Oh and Dio also gained new powers when he returned and Karz unlocked new powers with the mask and stone.
You're all idiots and I hate you.
>Star platinum is shit
This is true. the faggot couldn't even beat Kenshiro. lmao
>death battle
You need to be older than 18 to post here
>lel pokemanz
>double spacing every sentence
>The supporting characters actually SUPPORT.
>part 2
0/10 bait
>The main characters have actual character development, motivations and drive the story
This is a joke, right? Are you sure we're talking about Part 2?
Unlike Yea Forums Death Battle actually does real research. and they bring real facts to the table.
t. autistic nigger who enjoys RWBY
>Magic breathing that does whatever the plot needs it to do
>Better than stands
I don't dislike hamon by any means, but it would have gone full DBZ power creep eventually if Araki had been forced to stick with it. Spin also has a similar problem.
>weird random rant
>incoherent points
>second paragraph has nothing to do with the first
>calls people idiots when you can't even string together a coherent post
RWBY is superior to Jojo parts 3-8
But not superior to part 2 and best Jojo.
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nobody fucking knows what kind of story Jojolion is
The people who don’t speedread do.
embarrassing
>but it would have gone full DBZ
That would have been good.
Spin > hamon
He's too dumb.
that's just the brain damage talking
Hamon battles were more entertaining than stands by miles. If it was to go further down the route of power levels I wouldn't have minded.
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Cope.
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Fights the pillar men: who wins?
Settle down f/a/gs it's just a cartoon.
Part 2 was the best cuz it's the only part where the MC is besto character.
All Jojos suck, even old Joseph.
You first, spic
What a fag
Seething
It was really 5 and most of 6 that carried most of the bullshit. 4 skimmed in some parts, but at least turned out ok.
Overall, my ranking is:
7>4>3>2>1>6>8>5
Baoh sucked
Generic protect little girl shit plot
>Generic protect little girl shit plot
This is literally Part 5's plot as well.
>The main villains are actually threatening, have real ambitions and aren't mentally ill losers with contradictory personalities
there's nothing wrong with this
but otherwise i agree with you
Objective ranking incoming, from top to bottom
>Steel Ball Run
Absolutely the perfect manga. Took everything good from prior parts, distilled it together into a single unified story with unparalleled cohesion. You had stands but so many other elements that made it amazing, Lucy Steel, Diosaur, the True Man's World. Utterly perfect follow up to Araki scrapping the timeline. This is JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
>Stone Ocean
The first female JoJo, more controversial among fans. Brought in a lot of strange and intriguing elements like foo fighters (purest waifu) and the bone of Dio and using planetary alignments to alter Stands. Was essentially Araki looking back at schizophrenic story of previous parts and deciding to end the timeline with dignity in favor of a more refined story. This was truly a Bizarre Adventure.
>Phantom Blood, Battle Tendency
Part 1 was fist of the north star meets castlevania, Part 2 was Part 1 meets street fighter meets indiana jones. At this point the series was true to its name, with endless possibilities. Aztec vampires, nazi cyborgs, tibetan breathing magic, this is JoJo.
>Stardust Crusaders
This was a good part, but it bears the great sin of turning JoJo into, "The Stand Anime" and making its storylines more formulaic. The vast majority of fights in this are basically filler, completely ancillary to the central conflict, but it's of such quality that you're willing to overlook that. This is Adventure.
>Vento Aureo and Diamond is Unbreakable
I like both for opposite reasons. Vento Aureo had a great cohesive story and a shitty ending fight. Diamond is Unbreakable has a schizophrenic mess of a story, and one of the best most satisfying ending fights, literally everyone and their dog gets their moment in the spotlight with this ending, very few series achieve this. Part 4 gets an A in introducing a ton of interesting characters and concepts, but does barely anything with most of them. These are Bizarre.
That isn't a little girl.
deat h battle exksts to appeal to fanboys.and nothing else
i like it less as a factual representation of 'who would win' scenerios, and more like dumb entertainment
Okuyasu would wipe himself accidently before he'd ever kill a person.
pre red stone of aja, the custodes, after words the
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>has only read through part 4
disgusting
shes in her mid teens. zhe counts.
thats also why i dont like to google jojo part 5
Hamon is some bullshit
It is some vague electrical crap that can be used to instantly regenerate bone fractures to rapidly extend and retract your arms, extend your lifespan, turn leaves into fucking "magnets" which only attract organisms (???), fucking CONTROL organisms by sending certain electrical impulses to the brain, and straight up control the flow of liquids
It's got the same problem as Golden Experience where the power is so loosely defined that it allows Araki to write himself out of any situation, which makes any resolution feel half-assed when it comes down to another asspull application of a vague ability whose boundaries and limitations we're not fully certain of. At least with Star Platinum (until he gets the bullshit The World power-up) and Crazy Diamond the powers are simple and clear enough that any unexpected application of those abilities actually feels clever
This video is bullshit while its true that jotaro would not be able to kill kenshiro he himself cant get through star platinum since it outspeeds him and overpowers him and he cant hurt stands plus jotaro is smart enough to notice SP does nothing to kenshiro so he would use the world and leaping abilty to run away from him
bad bait
I hope it gets an old timey Elvis-tier soundtrack that you'd hear in a bar when two people are fighting. I feel like it'd fit some of the less dangerous battles such as Goo Goo dolls and when the main characters are just fucking around.
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I always thought Jamiroquai's canned heat would be a good ending theme
>It's the exact same attack over and over, but there's someone shouting "Wow, that exact same attack is stronger than ever before!" from the sidelies to assure your fetal alcohol syndrome addled brain that things have DEFINITELY ESCALATED, TRUST US
>Getting into Super Mega Ultra Sunlight Golden Hamon Overdrive: Deluxe Justice Supreme Double Cheeseburger Mode territory would be good
Reminder that they thought "Guy who is literally made of fire versus guy who eats fire" was a fair match-up
No it wouldn't have, Araki was right to ditch hamon early. It made less and less sense as the series went on with "positive and negative hamon" and "hamon spells" and that one time Lisa Lisa used hamon to read that girl's mind.
agreed
>No spin
How can one person be so wrong
If you haven't read all 8 parts you don't have a valid opinion
Spin is just hamon but without the breathing
kek
Hamon had it's time, but with the end of part 2 there was nowhere for it to go further.
Stands have the benefit of being so varied, that you can pull out some weird ass shit and in the end it challenges the protagonists because the villains aren't just something that can be hit
If hamon had continued in parts 3 and beyond, it would've ran into the same situation other shounen series' had, where the new villain needs to be much more powerful than the last because the nature of Hamon leaves little room for trickery bullshit.
Too stupid. You could suspect that he's putting on an act if you've never met the guy but Josuke became well-acquainted with him after the incident involving his brother.
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It stopped being a hard counter to the antagonists but that doesn't mean it had no place beyond dealing with vampires and oni. Hamon is still able to bring out peak human condition and manipulate/weaponize regular liquids, and was able to keep Joseph healthy and young far beyond his prime. You don't need to have vampires to melt for that to be useful.