King Crimson Thread

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Whats your favourite King Crimson song?
I think mine's gotta be Starless

>implied that "King Crimson" is an amalgamation of 2 stands: regular KC and Epitath
You took "I have given you a piece of King Crimson's power" as "this power is yours and I'm just an amalgamation of that and my power"? Fuck man, that's some rough reading comprehension.

Memes aside, as established in Part 4 time follows a semblance of fate. Fate is just that events will occur as they are meant to. Stand abilities intersect with fate in strange ways because they can simultaneously negate fate or recognize fate entirely.
Bites the Dust's loops create a temporary form of fate that becomes actualized for as long as it plays out, regardless of the original cause. BtD works alongside the actual mechanics of time. When BtD is dispelled, any "fate," such as its victims detonating, that had not been fulfilled, ceases to be.
King Crimson's ability is to allow the user to essentially step outside of fate for a period of time. That time is erased, as is the memory of anyone involved with it. Since KC is excused from that fate he can use it to avoid the consequences of actions that occur during that moment and make cause not occur. This alone is not what makes it fully broken, but Epitaph lets Diavolo see fate as it is and as it will occur. When KC activates, the fate that occurs is the fate that was foreseen by Epitaph, thus, Diavolo can act outside of fate and avoid outcomes. THe other victims within his ability lose the memory of the time that gets erased, giving Diavolo the edge to be literally one step ahead of them at any given time.
>Diavolo uses Epitaph to see that Giorno will punch towards him, beating him to a pulp
>Diavolo activates KC to allow fate to play out
>Giorno punches towards where he saw Diavolo and, from Giorno's perspective, succeeds as fate continues
>Diavolo steps behind Giorno and deactivates King Crimson, erasing the time between activations

VROOM

>Giorno: I can touch people and determine whether they have two souls
>Mista: how the fuck do you know you can do that

Mista asking the real question. Fuck Giorno.

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Requiem boosting everyone's powers and shit

Where the fuck has coochie been this whole time

Can't believe how much I love Doppio/Bossu. Didn't expect it since everyone said they're so flat as characters.

The anime has truly blessed us with so many ABSOLUTELY 4000000% NUCLEAR King Crimson frames, hasn't it?

that's just headcanon and way too smart for araki anyway

Indeed

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Why is KC so goddamn angry all the time?

I think my reaction folder consists entirely of KC faces

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So, GER next episode, right? How are they going to change the OP without completely spoiling GER though?

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>How are they going to change the OP without completely spoiling GER though?
I feel like with the right amount of flashbacks and lingering they can milk the episode enough so that GER is the episode following it. Like, the entire thing.

This is the best album.

Prove me wrong.

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bleh.

Wait I thought there were only 37 episodes though?

Is King Crimson basically autonomous at this point? Diavolo is a spooky ghost who just possesses people?
That's pretty dumb.

No, next episode is King of Kings Bruno dies and GER happens, then GER infinite death and all that shit and last episode is Sleeping Slaves

Diavolo is a split personality from Doppio, makes sense he's just kinda incorporeal

37 with the 37th next week + a 1 hour special July 28th

Giorno explicitly states that Diavolo is a separte soul from Doppio though.

holy shit I just want to see the opening with SFX and GER already
AHHHH

One anime cour is typically 12-13 episodes, Part 5 was picked up for 3 cour like Part 4. Part 4 was 39 episodes and so will this one be. One hour special is just two episodes.

I didn't say he wasn't though

Fair.
Why does Doppio get two souls though, that's cheating.

because Diavolo developed over time and created his own soul and body shape because araki

The 1 hour special will have GER, I'm sure of it.

I remember not liking the final fight of Vento Aureo because it was a cluster fuck and it was basically the gang and Diavolo playing hot potato with the arrow, despise the anime being so fucking great it seems DP just can't fix this dumbass fight no matter what, araki has talent to make fights so good that the final one just gets outshined by random ones.

At least KC looks fucking beautiful.

>blocks your path

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After the conclusion/last episode of the main plot? Seems weak desu.

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The 1 hour special will cover GER chapters and Sleeping Slaves.

Silver Chariot Requiem is just dumb on several levels
>uuh it switches souls
>also it boosts stands
>also it mutates people
>also it's the shadow of the soul
>also it has a sun behind your head and you can punch it to destroy the stand
>but you need to do it twice though the first time won't do it

>that snark as he donuts Trish and launches himself to the arrow
I don't remember Diavolo being so based. Comprehensible subs, voice acting, and additions to his story bumped him up to my third favorite villain after Valentine and Kira.

KC is based on his later design though

You forgot the the whole thing about turning stands against their users if they try to grab the arrow

Then what will next friday have?

The last Diavolo Surfaces chapter, King of Kings and the first GER Chapter. Maybe even the first two GER chapters

If only every frame looked like this...

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>David's retard design
Gross

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>earholes facing the same direction
Never understood that

THIS IS MY KIND OF THREAD

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Guys, please admit the anime is better than the manga. No one can possibly disagree. Part 5 manga doesn't even have a good art style. Then part 6 fixes up the pacing, adds amazing voice acting and music, helps you understand the crazy bullshit that goes on, changes the order of some events for better story flow, and more.

Fugo vs Boss when?

Boosting stands and mutating people was so inconsequential I completely forgot about it. I don't know what Araki was thinking with the entire ending to part 5. "maybe if I make the ending as bizarre and hectic as possible, people will feel like a climax happened instead of realizing I wrote myself into a corner."

he probably was throwing every idea he had on the wall and hoped something would stick.

Was Doppio's death scene anime only?

When's Fugo coming back to help the boss

reminder fugo is early doppio

it's been 10 years but i can finally understand what the fuck happens in the silver chariot requiem fight

what the fuck was wrong with araki when he wrote that fight? it's bullshit after bullshit
>diavolo instantly figures out SCR's insanely specific weakness
>spice girl making the bullets which would do absolutely fucking nothing
>punches a body so hard it flies through the air but not enough force to kill you btw

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Epitaph is part of KC, which is part of Diavolo

It's been a while since I read it, but he gains a new stand with the arrow called purple haze feedback, whose ability is to roll up into a cement ball, then he tries to kill the gang by rolling after them.

What the fuck even was the point of mutating people?

You don't see the ghost in the mango, just Bruno's body.

>everyone is seeing SCR's shadow in a different direction
>I know this even though I have no fucking way to tell

if anyone was supposed to figure that out it would be Giorno since he was in two different bodies while SCR was active

>KC being this smug.
Never expected this.

t.brainlet

doppio was always able to use KC and epitaph, he just didn't use them because split personality disorder autism making him believe only diavolo can use the stand.

SOmeone please explain to me how the elastic rubber bullets worked. I'm begging you. This is the most I've ever wanted a question answered, and then I'll never bother you again.

Nope, Kay Cee IS DIAVOLO.
It’s just that you see Kay Cee and not diavolo’s voice doing the talking.
You need to understand that diavolo is an “entity” composed of 3 characters:
>KC (Who’s the same as Diavolo)
>Physical Diavolo
>Doppio

Epitaph is a sub-stand like Sheer Heart Attack is for Killer Queen

>Epitaph's smiling as well
lul

apparently Spice Girl's elasticity thing also can make sticky things.
why not ask why Giorno can turn things into animals(termites) without being anywhere near them?

HOW DID KING CRIMSON BREAK THE GUN IN STOPPED TIME.

Why did Diavolo even go for cylinder?

This beautifully happy stand makes me want Diavollo to win.

he was just reaaal fast

The only issue I notice on Anime KC is that he doesn’t have defined teeth in every scene like in the manga

He appeared during the time that was skipped and broke it. The gang doesn't remember seeing KC do it since the time was skipped.

Diavolo figured it out by using Mista's body to see the shadow then using his soul to see it again and noticing that the shadow looked at a different direction, yet that doesn't explain how he figured out you had to hit the sun behind you

Epitaph is only a substand of KC and was always shown to be under the control of Diavolo.

Even during Metallica, Diavolo explicitly states that hes 'giving' Doppio the power of Epitaph for the fight, he wouldn't need to do that if Epitaph was Doppio's stand already.

Okay, I'll take that, but I still don't get what happened. Were the sticky elongate bullets just attached to the palm of his hand, then it bounced them away? Because it totally looked like it was attached to the back of his hand and curled off camera or something.

Gold Experience Requiem OP when

it just works

SPEED KING CRIMSON

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I assume he realised that the 'shadow' was the one controlling them, so its logical ((within the jojo mindset)) that getting rid of the shadow/destroying the sun will free them.

Epitaph is just Diavolo's sheer heart attack

But he's not supposed to be able to interact with people or objects in stopped time, right? I feel like that's how it's supposed to work, but Araki breaks that rule way more than he follows it.

If he can kill people/destroy objects in erased time, then what is this bullshit of "his range is a few meters" his range should really be as far as he can run in 10 seconds.

how does skipped time look on a cctv

I think they were just attached to his palm, and apparently Trish can somehow control when the force gets applied to an object. So the force of the impact of the bullets hitting KC's hand made the bullets whip and hit the arrow away.

Basically.

Doppio really got the shit end of the stick in life, didn't even get a stand of his own even though he has his own soul.

If he is somehow "fated" to eventually break the gun then he can do it. He probably would have ended up breaking the gun regardless if time was stopped or not.

You can only really explain it with the theory that KC can interact with shit in stopped time if he was already fated to do so, like when he threw Narancia onto the fence and when he cut off Trish's arm in the elevator, he did those things in full view of everyone, simply by following what was forecast and not avoiding anything, but the result of KC still being active in that time means that no one remembers what they just saw.

Starless is fucking high tier man, but i have a soft spot for moonchild, it just does things for me

Considering how bitch made Doppio is he would probably die from the arrow. Hell he's so weak willed his mind split.

I guess so, I wonder if Diavolo's soul was the only thing that kept him alive with that initial arrow stab?

he was pretty cool in the Metallica fight tho

Epitaph is pretty good

its funny of you to say that seeing as how Diavolo ran away or tried to run away from every fight he was in while Doppio told him to fuck off and that he wouldnt run away like a coward and would confront Nero headon instead. Also i wish i had saved the insult comparison image, if someone has it please post it

Discipline is the best album

>apparently Trish can somehow control when the force gets applied to an object

Fuck. I was going to posit that this new ability (and making objects sticky) was due to being powered up by SCR, but SCR is dead. Maybe the power up lasted just a little while after death.

>Chinlet queen
No, you are gross

>The world appears in part 7
>Killer queen appears in part 8
King crimson returns in part 9

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He so looks much better in this era desu.
Almost constant grimace > meme rage face

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I don't even buy the "fated" argument. Doesn't King Crimson erase fate, as in "epitaph has predicted that metallica is going to blow your head off so it is fated to happen unless I erase the time that happens"

Unless he can pick and choose what fate he erases.

The views of Diavolo being the confident and protective side of Doppio is interesting seeing that every time Diavolo is in a fight, including the final one, he tries to run away when presented with resistance like a coward, contrasted with Doppio who would rather lose a limb or sacrifice himself rather than run away as we see in the Metallica fight, and that's not even mentioning Doppio's sailor mouth and his outbursts of rage compared to the more calm and calculating Diavolo

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Realistically what would DP have to add to the ending to improve on the manga?

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Why did Araki immedietly drop that the stands are being supercharged by requiem

surely moles' sense of smell isn't UNPARALLELED?

I bet a dog could have done better

Can someone explain this to me? During the part where Doppio is in Bruno body, does he know that he's part of the multiple personality disorder or what?

Scr isnt dead yet

>100% forgot all about that sun KC punched to defeat SCR
Holy fuck how dumb. I also forgot but then remembered that SCR changes all life or whatever but the sun thing how fucking dumb.

He doesnt

>"epitaph has predicted that metallica is going to blow your head off so it is fated to happen unless I erase the time that happens"
What? Metallica never blow his head off. It was Nero's invisible blood on Doppio's head

You're right. But I still like the anime version too.

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muh theory: doppio always knew but ignored it

Doppio pretty much had two personalities even without Diavolo

That doesent make sense, if he has invisible blood on his head his head should still be visible

>He so looks much better in this era
Seems araki didnt think so

Do you not understand the difference between invisibility and camouflage?

thats not how metalica works

Ah, you've hit up why King Crimson is confusing for so many. Time skip is simple, it's the rules within that are confusing.

Thats not how the invisibility works

It wasn't invisible blood, rather that it was Nero's blood which he was using metallica on in order for him to appear invisible, so on doppio it looked like his head was gone.

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>having to relieve your death for all eternity
ok yes, the boss was evil, but Giorno is a sadistic motherfucker

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I thought you guys told me Part 5's final battle sucked. This episode was so fucking intense.

>Giorno
Giorno didn't do shit, that was all GER's doing.

Well he is Dio's son, so that manifests in him being cruel towards his enemies.

>What? Metallica never blow his head off. It was Nero's invisible blood on Doppio's head

Yeah I know. But they THOUGHT Doppio's head was going to be blown off, so Diavollo explained his ability as "it's fated to happen, but once I get there I can erase that time with my King Crimson."

KC can erase Diavolo's on fate, but it doesn't necessarily have to. If Diavolo see's himself being punched in the face in skip time then he COULD theoretically just stand there and take it, just that he also has the ability to foresee and avoid it with his power.

In this case, he's just doing what was forecasted, whether its breaking Mista's gun/Killing Narancia/Maiming Trish, only difference being that no one can remember that KC just did that shit right in front of them.

Really? If so, I'll take this as some fun new headcanon.

To be fair we weren't even able to read it coherently for something close to 10 years.
People who are now getting into part 5 with good scans/translations and the anime are spoiled.

Thats because Diavolo thought it was actually going to happen, so he wanted to show up and avoid whatever blew Doppio's head off, but the reality of the situation was different so he didn't need to in the end.

He can avoid shit during the skip time, that's basically what his 'erasing' fate means.

I still don't understand, Metallica's power is to make iron particles that reflect light and blend into the background, so if it was carried by his blood, isn't doppio's head the background?

I remember reading that part in the manga, it felt like a fever the dream, the whole last 3 volumes feel like it.
>goes from your regular stand fighting to arrow lore, stands getting power ups, humanity evolving, seeing your soul in the back of your head, dead people talking galore and Giorno becoming some sort of demigod
I wonder in what drugs Araki was when he wrote all that

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The main thing I enjoyed about the finale being the feeling like this had just been a really long, stressful night for everyone and the whole gang was just about at the end of their tether. It was a different sort of emotion to the usual JoJo fights and I thought it largely worked, despite finding the mechanics of what was actually happening impenetrable.

>Seems araki didnt think so
If anything, he changed his mind and re-added KC's earlier details again.

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Blame Araki for that, in the fight itself Doppio explains that to be the answer, Nero's Metallica blood was on his head so it looked like a chunk was blown out, guess there were some liberties taken to make Epitaphs prediction seem more deadly than it was.

i wanna see Bohemian Rhapsody in motion, that damn arc i couldnt tell what the fuck was happening until the guy stroked out

I imagine that Giorno/Mista/Trish probably slept for like two days straight after all this shit was over.

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that's literally what his soul wanted his stand to do

>This episode was so fucking intense.
Because it was Araki doing straight horror. Requiem 1 establishes the body switch and the question "which body is Diavolo in" and ends on the knowledge that Bucci is in Diavolo's body
Requiem 2 plays up what SCR does and how it responds, while increasing the tension of not knowing where Diavolo is even as he acts in front of them.
This episode was pure Body Snatcher paranoia, where even when Giorno has his approach and solution it still hinges on Mista's argument: how the fuck can they trust Giorno if Diavolo could be in anyone?

It's all psychological terror and plays off of everything they've been building towards.
>what is the boss's identity?

The final final ending is sucky ass pull beyond all ass pulls. Some shills consider this the "true final fight" but even this is confusing as fuck, breaks rules, comes up with new abilities out of nowhere, creates powers that immediately get forgotten, etc.

thats me when im shitting

>He can avoid shit during the skip time, that's basically what his 'erasing' fate means.

Which is what I'm trying to get to the bottom of. If the time skip erases fate, then how can he break/kill shit that he is fated to break/kill. Unless he can just pick and choose what fate he erases. Or if dodging an attack is just a metaphor for erasing fate, but if it's fate he still shouldn't be able to dodge it without erasing fate literally.

KQ got it way worse. At least some of the animators snuck in the original design into a few frames here and there

Giorno can sense life, given that his stand was boosted by Requiem it would make sense it can sense souls now

>I wonder in what drugs Araki was when he wrote all that
i think he fucked himself over by making KC and SCR unironically too strong to be beaten by conventional methods.
This is a really bad habit of his, he did the same thing in part 6, made MIH so strong he had no choice but to reset the universe to stop it.

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And for the better too.
Border around the face is kino.

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Part 6 has the most bizarre fights

At least it's a little more proportionate punishment than Josuke turning some guy into a book for all eternity for scaring his mom.

KQ's anime design is fucking awful, i literally have no fucking idea why they tought changing the design of one of the most iconic stands in the series was good in any way.

Part 4's adaptation is fucking garbage and it has no reason to be that bad

Why wasn't King Crimson powered up by SCR

Books can be burned

Diavolo is intangible in time skip. If he saw he was going to get shot through the epitaph, he will skip time and let the bullets passes through him.
Thats how he can escape fate.

anime KC unironically looks too buff, i prefer the thinner and slicker look of araki's design

He also turned Angelo into a fucking rock

> Unless he can just pick and choose what fate he erases.

That's basically it, like I said its just a theory, but it just kind of follows that Diavolo COULD just not avoid something that was fated by Epitaph to happen if it was advantageous for him, all he gets is the benefit that no one remembers what he did anyway.

As it is, KC basically just removes him from the restrictions of fate, so he can choose to physically avoid things or physically just follow what he sees in Epitaph.

he just made himself fly with a punch

since you mention KC, now im wondering, how would Diavolo and Kira interact with eachother when the answer is not "they wouldnt care" or gay shit, cause damn there is a fucking ton of those two

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Normal KC can do that

animeonly here.

my theory on where diavolo was hiding was totally wrong.

i thought he had taken over the body of this bee that it showed when people were starting to wake up. a tiny bee like that would be able to hide among the gang without being detected, i figured.

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seeing at how diavolo was able to predict where Mista's bullets would hit so fast it probably was powered up as well
The question is why did the power up ability of SCR was even a thing? it never came up

This I really hope Josuke at SOME point bothered to at least destroy the rock/book just like I hope Giorno eventually just stopped GER so Diavolo could just die permanently.

Overpowered stands aren't inherently a bad thing. D4C, Tusk Act 4 and The World were overpowered as fuck and they still put up incredibly entertaining fights (Dare i say, one of the best ones in the entire manga).

The problem is when said powers feel completely out of context: Tusk Act 4's infinite rotation makes sense because his stand is related to rotation even in its early form.
What doesn't make any fucking sense is Chariot Requiem being able to swap souls and alter any living organism's physiology since its original stand was just an armored swordsman completely unable to manipulate anything other than his sword

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Pictures of a city

I mean, if you figure that the shadow you're casting is the source of your problems, then hitting the light source that provides said shadow should solve it, it isn't too farfetched for Jojo anyways, since their IQ increases during battle.

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>animeonly here

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That would've been pretty funny.

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there is literally no reason for any of them to get involved
>kira wouldn't want to get involved with gangsters of all people, it's dangerous attention he doesn't need as he enjoys living his normal wagecuck life killing women on the weekends for fun
>diavolo has no reason to think a mere salaryman has any use for him as part of the organization

Doesn't the fact that Diavolo being able to hide inside someone as a "soul" like a parasite pretty much confirm that Doppio was the original?

unironically makes more sense than being in mista's body

I always assumed that the requiem stands just do whatever you need them to do at the time.

Great Deceiver, Elephant Talk, Fallen Angel, I talk to the wind, Cirkus, Sailor's Tale, Hearbeat, Dinosaur and ProzaKc blues

Potentially, though you could also make the argument that it was just because he was used to 'moving' souls with Doppio already since they do it all the time.

Epitaph is to KC what Sheer Heart Attack is to Killer Queen. Doppio is established to only be able to use the power of Epitaph and KC's right arm

>What doesn't make any fucking sense is Chariot Requiem being able to swap souls and alter any living organism's physiology since its original stand was just an armored swordsman completely unable to manipulate anything other than his sword
That's the whole point of Requiem stands and I'm glad they only showed up on part 5
SCR didn't need to put people to sleep when it was used to grab the arrow from behind some furniture

thats just a headcanon meti took out of his ass and people started repeating it like if it was cannon

Isn't meti the dumbfuck that also argues that Killer Queen is a requiem stand?

Doppio being the original was always in-your-face obvious.

i don't think overpowered stands are bad either, i love the final fights in P7, P3, P4, and hell even P5

I do think SCR being able to manipulate souls as the ultimate mechanism to stop ANYONE from ever attempting to get the arrow from it, it hinders something that goes beyond your body and soul, your mind, something that you have absolutely no control over, thus it works as the ultimate defense, but it just has so many pointless powers.
why did it even need the ability to power up people? why even need the ability to fuck up people's bodies after a while of being exposed to the ability? sure they make sense, but just feel pointless when the main ability of the stand already does enough damage on it's own.

It's literally like if Star Platinum's fists were able to burn things it punches from how fast they move, sure it makes sense, but it's completely unnecesary.

> Chariot Requiem being able to swap souls and alter any living organism's physiology since its original stand was just an armored swordsman

Not using it as a defence or anything, but the point of requiem stands is that they have nothing to do with the users original power, it just gives dominion over souls no matter what the previous ability was.

who the fuck knows, he flip flops all over the place all the time. If we are going to headcanon Black Sabbat is a requiem stand because he could control souls

If that was true then Chariot Requiem would just be a physically stronger and faster chariot immune to Diavolo's timeskip or at least fast enough to avoid Diavolo's attacks but this is entirely not the case

>I always assumed that the requiem stands just do whatever you need them to do at the time.
well polnareff does say that his wish was to protect the arrow thats why requiem just walks and prevents anyone from touching it so kinda i suppose? i mean if i had to say i guess requiems control higher concepts like souls and fate instead of physical properties and that how they control them will be based on carrying on ur wish

The whole KQ arrow thing is a bullshit of its own,

but diavolo already is in part8

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>main crew is looking around for bossu
>hear a little buzz
>out of nowhere a giant King Crimson appears just to donut someone
would be pretty great not gonna lie

Ah that guy has some dumb fuck views.

Yes and thats just wrong.

I forgot about how SCR was going to change all life forms, for some reason, I doubt Polnareff wanted that. The first thing of souls switching makes sense I guess?

That would have made more sense

>I forgot about how SCR was going to change all life forms, for some reason
That’s because it went berserk

What it felt like to me was schizophrenia, but the other personality was so much stronger that it became the dominant one. And that might be the reason why Diavolo was the user of KC, his fighting spirit was so much stronger than Doppio, so he was the one to gain KC, and in turn it turned him from just a different personality to an actual soul.
All headcanon, but it's fun to theorize.

That wasn't what Pol wanted though, at the time his wish was just a panic induced one that no one would get their hands on the arrow.

He states himself that he doesn't know the full capability of the arrow anyway, so I don't think he could really have predicted exactly what he needed to do with SCR as a concept.

One thing I found funny is how Silver Chariot went from having no particular powers other than its above average speed to doing a fuckton of bizarre spirit shit. Sasuga arrow.

Cute

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You'll see next episode.

It's not true regardless, we already saw from the farmhouse that Chariot Requiem just has that power regardless of what Polnareff is feeling.

Seems a bit much. SCR is fucking weird

They're still in different bodies.

that's how i thought he killed narancia. just flew past him and had KC jump out and kill him.

then i thought maybe he was hitching a ride on someones clothes while they chased down SCR

>apparently Spice Girl's elasticity thing also can make sticky things.

So Spice Girl has the properties of rubber and gum?

>above average speed
Saying it's above average is grossly underselling it. SC could create afterimages

what even is the difference between a normal evolution like Acts, an arrow evolution like BtD and a Requiem evolution? They are just powerups with different names attached to them but whats really the difference?

Did Diavolo become King Crimson when he was in Trish?

xForts, that's the one you two are referring to. I just look it up on YouTube.

It's just a visual representation

If Pol becoming a child affected his stand's looks and power, what would bee KC be like?

Man they really did Killer Queen a disservice in the anime. It's the only case I've ever seen of a character being TOO expressive. It looks good in a few shots but I miss the blank expression it has in almost every panel.

honestly both of them just blend together into a weird amalgamation in my mind. Thanks for correcting me though

Acts happen when you grow as a person
Btd is when you stab yourself with a heart arrow
Requiem is when you stab your stand with the beetle arrow

Meti says a lot of stuff that's either complete bullshit or his own headcanon presented as fact

Bites the Dust is a Requiem upgrade. The whole Acts I-III thing is just a part of Koichi's thang.

Acts come from your personal growth, you pretty much get a new stand but you can change between them
Bites the Dust was a new power Kira got because the arrow chose him a second time
Requiem comes from your stand being pierced and seems to have its own set of powers unrelated to your stand

The arrow doesn't enhance your abilities, it gives you new abilities based on your strongest desire at the time of piercing your stand.

>acts
Personal growth
>Bites the dust
User stabbed with that particular arrow
>requiem
Stand stabbed with beetle arrow

What the gang did for this whole part was chase down and beat up a mentally ill man who just needed help, not very heroic from their part

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i understand the triggers, but what is the difference of the evolution? why is a power gained through one metod different than one gained from another?

Acts are generally just a power up/stronger version of the main ability
Arrow evolution from what we can see is basically just a new sub-ability
And Requiem evolution can just be what the fuck ever, they aren't really understood beyond the fact that they can hold dominion over higher concepts like souls and fate.

As it is, it's hard to say for certain since there's so few examples of all of these and they're usually in very weird circumstances/from different sources.

He wouldn't even have King Crimson because he acquired it after going to Egypt unlike Pol who had SC since he was a kid
Remember Jotaro?

Oh wait nvm there's Tusk. I guess only some people go through the Acts thing

>it gives you new abilities based on your strongest desire at the time of piercing your stand.
I don't fucking understand why people still say this

>but you can change between them
I have yet to see in the manga or anime, Koichi or Johnny use a previous stand ability. Its just in game
>Many times Johnny cant shot becuase ACT 2 while it tracts can only shoot 10 at a time and takes a while to grow back
>Tusk ACT 1 grows back instantly.

Thats how stands works

>BtD
>Not a requiem

It's basically the version of requiem that the heart arrow can give you, in every way that matters it's the same thing and it's only technically different.

Ok, am I alone in not remembering ANY of this shit? Like what's with the mutations thing? I don't remember that at all. I also didn't remember Spice Girl being useful so that was at least a pleasant surprise. God the whole finale of Part 5 is a fucking blur.

>I have yet to see in the manga or anime,
Look no further friend, I am here to help

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> Koichi or Johnny use a previous stand ability

Koichi uses act 2 at the start of part 5 to look for Giorno, so we know he can use the older acts.

>Polneraff wanted to protect the arrow
>Requiem protects the arrow with "absolute" defence

>Giorno wanted to defeat King Crimson
>GER hard-counters King Crimson

>I don't understand why people still say this
Because the only examples we have follow the rule to the T.

The requiem arrow specifically gives power over peoples souls, they point this out several times
BtD just lets Kira do Groundhog Day

Requiems are so much more powerful BtD is a joke in comparison, it'd be like comparing perfect Kars to a normal vampire.

But Kira still had killer queen with btd, requiem gives you a new stand entirely

Moonchild and you can't beat the classics 21st Century Schizoid man.

>Polnareff wanted to grab the arrow from behind the dresser
>Puts everyone to sleep just like it did at the Colosseum

Follows the rule to a T... yeah, no.

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>I have yet to see in the manga or anime, Koichi or Johnny use a previous stand ability
Sheer heart attack

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>The requiem arrow specifically gives power over peoples souls, they point this out several times
Speed reader, they're talking about how the arrow gave SCR power over souls.

Different arrows might have different effects
Like, the first arrow from part 4 gave everyone it stabbed a stand, second arrow picked the people it would give a stand, Black Sabbath's arrow would kill weak people, etc
I'm not 100% sure, but I think Johnny used Act 3, or at least the hiding in a bullet hole thing against alternate universe Dio

Here's another example

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Act 4 is fairly temporary

Kinda hard to take the arrow when you're asleep.
Kinda hard to take the arrow in a body you're not use to.
Kinda hard to take the arrow when your attacks are deflected.

its been a while since I re read part 5 ill be honest. Was this in the anime? I have an awful memory. Thank you

His goal was always to defend the arrow

But that wasn't his desire when he pierced his stand. He was just trying to grab it from behind the dresser. This was in the manga and the anime, how can you still be confused by this?

Giorno and friends are fucking douchebags.

It wasnt

He didn't know how important it was till after all that, retard.

No, they cut it.

All the normal arrows were the same, we know already that Koichi would absolutely have died to the first arrow if it weren't for Josuke healing him, and as it is, seems like arrows 'choosing' people is just a phenomenon that happens sometimes.

> Black Sabbath's arrow would kill weak people

All arrows do that to those that are too weak to gain a stand.

>Why wasn't King Crimson powered up by SCR
He was, he was using his ability back to back while dodging fucking bullets. He's fucking OP as shit right now.

He was debating on fucking leaving it there.

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His desire was still to defeat Diavolo at the time and he knew the arrow was important. You're both mouth breathers who probably took "dominion over souls" as legit canon just because Polnareff thought so after seeing what the arrow does once.

>Read SCR in this thread
>Think it refers to the Stormcrow from Battletech
ok it's time to sleep

Same, I only read it 2 years ago and it's all new to me. It's either because it's so strange or just too confusing in manga form to really integrate into memory. Or maybe it's the fact that these few chapters have so many WTF moment in a short time span.

I didn't even remember them switching bodies, just Diavolo's reveal and GER. Everything between is a blur.

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Let's compare main villains and if they deserved their defeat
>Dio Brando
Getting locked in a casket for 100 years ended up being a good thing for him mentally
>Kars
Literally the only solution
>DIO
He died after causing the deaths of half the Stardust Crusaders and almost killing Joseph and talking about how hard he got when he drank Joseph's blood, right in front of Jotaro
>Kira
He killed 30+ people and desecrated their hands by jerking off with them. He deserved much more than just forgetting what he did.
>Diavolo
He increased Italy's gang activity to unprecedented levels, had hitman squads, allowed drugs to be sold to kids and has a sperg out whenever somebody tries to find out his identity. This, in addition to almost killing his daughter and then wondering why the people hired to protect her betrayed him.
He deserved infinite death.

>Like, the first arrow from part 4 gave everyone it stabbed a stand, second arrow picked the people it would give a stand, Black Sabbath's arrow would kill weak people, etc
The first arrow killed people as well, thats why Keicho went to the prision to stab angelo, because criminals had "stronger wills to survive the arrow's test". He even says he has killed people, so we can infer that the first arrow also choose like the second one. So no, i do not think those three arrows are different in any way shape or form

I mean there's not really much difference between it being up on the wall or behind some furniture.

Stands are representations of the soul, so kind of yeah since he didn't have a body at the time.

If his desire was to defeat Diavolo, his requiem stand did a pretty shitty job of countering him.

>We defeated DIO, Jotaro! Let's split up and travel the world to try and collect all the arrows so nobody can use them for evil ever again!
>*while holding shat out McDonalds* Polnareff didn't want to protect the arrows them you idiot *eats his own shit*

>He deserved much more than just forgetting what he did.
Didn't he get pulled into the abyss/hell?

>confusing as fuck
Retard
>breaks rules
How?
>comes up with new abilities out of nowhere
Giorno was already established as being able to sense life. His stand got a major boost so it'd be reasonable to assume he can sense souls, especially when he did that with Narancia not too long ago.
>creates powers that immediately get forgotten
No shit, this is the last fight chronologically for the part and none of the characters come back outside of PHF

We are debating whether or not the arrow "gives you new abilities based on your strongest desire at the time of piercing your stand"

Ignoring the fact that this is never stated once in the entirety of the manga, there is no reason to believe that Polnareff's strongest desire at that moment was to protect the arrow from the farmers and cows outside his window.

I wouldn't say he deserved infinite death, he was a horrible person who killed many and had no sympathy for the people he was fucking over, but INFINITE death is still pretty harsh, maybe just leaving GER active for a few years or something and then turning it off, even that much would be enough to drive someone insane and wishing for death.

If anyone actually deserved infinite death in regards to the scope of shit they fucked up, it'd be Pucci, since he affected and screwed up the entire world.

Jotaro: Hmmm Polnrareff hasn't contacted me in 2 years after he went to italy to seek for the arrow, ehh its probably nothing

Epitaph desu

Jotaro doesn't really give a fuck.

>I have yet to see in the manga or anime, Koichi or Johnny use a previous stand ability. Its just in game

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No, he became a ghost with a fedora or some shit.
Read Dead Man's Question
Diavolo actively tried to fuck with fate and kept pushing "No Actions, Only Results"
Him getting only actions but no results is the most poetic justice in the series and entirely deserved, especially considering what he did to his mother.

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Polnareff's mission was the not allow the arrows to be used for evil ever again. The requiem arrow gives you the power to fulfill that wish, then makes the power OP. The result is that SCR stops anything and everything from even having the chance to take the arrow.

>Trish pantsu shot not in
A sad day

by all means, the same as stopped time

Infinite death is just fucked up no matter what you did

>Diavolo actively tried to fuck with fate and kept pushing "No Actions, Only Results"
But there is literally nothing wrong with that.

People continue their actions as they would normally. For them it'd be like if they just zoned out.

Probably too busy autistically observing whales and neglecting his wife

You're a little scary, user.

because supercharged stands vs. supercharged stands is just a normal stand fight

Yes, how would that not be defending it? Hiding it so no one finds it is pretty good

>The result is that SCR stops anything and everything from even having the chance to take the arrow.
But he took the arrow from SCR within seconds. You guys are retards forcing a headcanon.

But then why would he supercharge them in the first place

We better get blue Johnny

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There is when that involves removing the action of letting your daughter live and going straight to the result of her tragic death at the hands of gangbangers.
You wanna see fucking scary?

Wasn't Star Platinum faster than SC?
imo SC is really weak even by part 3 standarts

explain to me how the ability to change people's souls around would allow him to " not allow the arrows to be used for evil". If it was just "you own stand stops you" you would have a case, but thats not the case

>There is when that involves removing the action of letting your daughter live and going straight to the result of her tragic death at the hands of gangbangers.
How is that any different from the regular murderers in jojo that do not receive infinite deaths?

>You wanna see fucking scary?
Yes, show me.

FUCK GIO

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I'm sure he's faster once he removes his armor and shit, since he's able to create multiple after-images of Silver Chariot

SCR makes no fucking sense. KC makes sense. Why is the only why to beat SCR to attack the sun behind you? Why is Polnullref stand not only switching souls but now fucking bodies or whatever? His original stand is just a swordsmen what the fuck. Why is the sun there? Am so confused more confused then when I read the bad translations years ago. I had blocked this or something.

He's also the guy with a 6'4 girlfriend that pegs him, not joking

Blue lipstick is overkill desu.

Requiem was a mistake

No I believe SC was still faster than SP. Kinda blows out the "SP stops time by being super fast for a few seconds" shit I used to hear.

Asb colors are best

The colors from ASB are pretty good too. I'm fine with any Johnny as long as it's not green Johnny.

I like it, it's different.

Because SCR didn't fully release itself from Polnareff yet so he still had a chance you fucking idiot.

Because the end-game was to switch the souls of everything in the world so they'd be unable to do anything.

SWOLE CRIMSON

I'm still fucking mad when giorno took coco jumbo's cells to make another stand using turtle. Could Giorno literally just make an army of stand using turtles like that? Or find another animal like Iggy and make an army of them?

Actually, people who take pleasure in murder in JoJo's usually get the most fucked up deaths.
Angelo is a rock, Ciocolatta got 7 page Muda'd and put in a garbage truck, Kira got his head crushed by an ambulance.

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4U
So is this another case of backwards robotAI logic of
>there cannot be problem if there are no humans

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>not neon Johnny

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This isn't scary, I see it almost every day

>Because SCR didn't fully release itself from Polnareff yet so he still had a chance you fucking idiot.
Nice headcanon

absolutely based

did Pol use Chariot to carry him on his wheelchair when no one was around?

Why doesn't GER put a sun behind your head?

You are the speedreader Polnareff specifically states the arrows true power is to give control over peoples souls

why would he want to swap all living things with ayyys? ask requiem, not me

I unironically still don't understand King Crimson, and I read the manga. Am I hopeless?

Diavolo doesn't take pleasure in murder. He kills people because it is useful.

>animeonlies

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> Am I hopeless?
No, you're honest.

nu Yea Forums. get used to it

Pls no

GER probably has some convoluted weakness too, it's just that Diavolo had no time to think things through and we don't see GER again so whatever.

Nobody understands it because Araki is inconsistent.

The only people that claim to understand it take the following assumptions without araki explaining it
>how fate works in universe
>how king crimson interacts with fate
>how interacting with fate can affect reality
>the extent of Diavolo's freedom of movement in erased time

Pucci literally did nothing wrong, he just wanted people to live in peace after knowing their fates

>So is this another case of backwards robotAI logic of
>>there cannot be problem if there are no humans
Pretty much.

That's literally what Polnareff says though.

Poetic justice does not mean someone just gets the opposite of what they want

divorce is pretty time consuming

>Gee I stabbed myself with this arrow and my stand got the power to control souls or something, I guess that means the arrow does that to everyone.

How about this?
You said murderers in JoJo and almost all of them take pleasure in it.
Pucci got killed by Emporio using Heavy Weather, Valentine got infinite spiral'd and Diego dabbed on Johnny
He also died but that's besides the point

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If Killer Queen activated bites the dust, and King Crimson erased that time, what would happen?

>You said murderers in JoJo and almost all of them take pleasure in it.
I'm asking why messing with fate to kill someone is worse than just killing someone. You said Diavolo deserved infinite deaths because he fucked with fate.

>Araki explained the ability wrong in his manga and the truth is actually something that I made up!

>every talking about how nonsense SCR is
Why did no one do this years ago before the anime? I know the translations were bad but did we all just block it out? And didt bother re reading it? SCR is insanely dumb.

>Blue Gio becomes the standart in most media because of how iconic and recognizable it is
>we get pink Gio for some reason
DP is so weird when it comes to colors, i have no idea what they'll do with stone ocean

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Do you guys think Giorno couln't live with himself after all the deaths that took place in part 5 and took his own life shortly after becoming the boss? Explains why he doesen't show up in part 6

I notice there are a lot of scenes where Diavolo "skips" time, but nobody else but him ever moves making it effectively the same as a time stop.

>Part 6 race to heaven happens
>Giorno faces pucci offscreen
>GER ready to kick some ass
>Pucci off-offscreen discovers that GER can be destroyed by eating a Pizza Margarita because for some backwards logic making Giorno feel nostalgic makes GER lose its elbows
you could make some shit up like
>Because BtD is inside Diavolo's eye it enters the erased time alongside him

It's more like he fucked with fate to make Italy a massive shithole of drug users and also used it to try to kill his daughter.

It's always been said. People are talking about it more because the episode came out today.

Dude I barely remember any of this shit. Honestly this whole final fight is kinda why I didn't like part 5 for so long. It did not stick the landing.

THE BULLET TRISH
DROP THE FUCKING BULLET

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I remember it being a running joke for a long while, you're just seeing more discussion all of sudden due to the episode

And you think that makes him worthy of infinite deaths? It's just drugs, if the Jojo universe is anything like ours then he isn't even the only person to do that.

Holy fucking s hit that's not how King Crimson works you fucking retard, it literally cannot alter reality, things that are fated to happen (like time rewinding after BTD triggers) STILL happen no matter what

you don't understand unless you actually read the old scans, they're so bad that my theory is that everyone made up their own headcanon on how the fight went through and then moved on to stone ocean

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But things that happen in erased time don't affect Diavolo, right?

I must have not noticed in the jojo threads I went to. KC makes perfect sense compered to this nonsense. SCR has like 3 abilites that are just off the wall compared to what SC is. A fucking sword stand why?

Glad am not the only one.

Remember that time when Hayato changed fate

>they're so bad that my theory is that everyone made up their own headcanon on how the fight went through and then moved on to stone ocean
Yeah, only problem is that some people still won't let go of those headcanons

>le 4 XD
is Mista autistic?

Yes

Things like gravity still affect him so I guess the universe going back in time would too

Jolyne's hair color is a mystery. In ASB it was green, in EoH blonde.
What about Anasui? Blue hair looks awful, but pink makes him look like Diavolo.

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it would go like this:
>BTD and KC activate at the same time
>KC sees the next 10 seconds of him going back in time thanks to BTD
>10 seconds pass
>BTD rewinds back and Diavolo can't stop it

>inb4 blonde Anasui.

i guess so, but some things are so vague that i don't mind people making up their own interpretation

>stands get powered up
>literally don't do anything with it
I forgot that they suddenly showed Narancia's aerosmith going fast as fuck only to have him killed 10 seconds later

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I do if they try to push their interpretations as fact. If Araki wrote the story to be vague, it should stay vague.

Make him a ginger

>>KC sees the next 10 seconds of him going back in time thanks to BTD
he would see btd in his eye and himself exploding, i dont think he would be able to see time rewinding
the questing is, is the explosion needed for the rewind the happen, and if it does, would skipping time be able to avoid his explosion

Pink Jolyne with blue Stone Free is the kino colour choice

We'll definitely get blue Anakiss, they probably won't want to confuse anime watchers by making them think it's Diavolo

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That might actually be the case. While reading part 5 in the bad translations I thought its second ability the one to change all life on earth, it was just changing their bodies back to their souls or whatever. I did't get why but I kept on reading. What it actually does is even dumber holy fuck.

Green or red

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It depends how much time it takes for BTD to rewind after the explosion, we don't really know that for sure, i like to think he would see the explosion and himself right back at the start of the loop (whatever that is)

looks like something straight from shingeKINO kyojin

What is with Polnareff and Giorno's insistence on drops of blood to see Time Skips?
Does nobody carry a watch on them?

I bet DP will pull a pink giorno out of their asses and give Ana a whole new color scheme

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>>literally don't do anything with it
It established the scenario using Aerosmith's expanded radius that the only ones conscious were themselves, which set them at ease a bit until Bucci's body awoke. Shooting the body they felt safe enough that the boss was eliminated, before considering pursuing SCR again. The Stand boost is likely because of the soul manipulation, and not an intended one. Normal humans wouldn't have a perceived effect from a heightened soul power, only those who have the ability to apply it are going to recognize it.

but if he is exploding he isnt traveling back in time, only the carrier of btd goes back in time

I'd be okay with it as long as it matches with Jolyne's color scheme.

Diavolo IS King Crimson.

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The one who has BtD in his eye remembers what happened before the rewind.

That would be a cool twist, if Diavolo didn't exist before he got the stand. A stand that's sentient and strong enough to control you is a neat idea.

Araki stands get progressively slimier as time goes by until he eventually gives up drawing humanoids altogether and now just draws robots.

no they dont, rohan didnt remember that he had died before

if you record diavolo doing a full time skip in the middle of the video, what would you see when you play it back?

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What the actual fuck were they thinking? It seriously looks so egregiously bad. How was this approved?

Hayato did.

I guess you would just see him moving

i want to fuck this robot then

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Because Hayato was the bomb carrier, not the victim.

Everything, I imagine. Minus KC and any stand powers being used.

but hayato is the carrier of btd, he does not have btd in his eye, we see him

I must be forgetting the mechanics of BtD.

Paisley park is alternatively a humanoid or a robot depending on the chapter, and I assume araki's mood at the time

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Bites the Dust cant be triggered 'during' erased time because BtD blows away an hour of time, but KC's ability creates a world without time.

The user selects a host to carry the bomb, but in exchange he can't use his stand unless he deactivates BtD. When the carrier is interrogated in any form, it will trigger the bomb and then rewind one hour, and whoever died will still die even if the carrier is not around, unless BtD is undone beforehand.

It's kind of a missed potential to beat diavolo without needing requiem asspull. Imagine KC without epitaph, it can be reasonably beaten if diavolo cant see the future.

>Yasuho could see the soap bubbles through her phone because of Paisley Park
That was like the only moment of competent and interesting foreshadowing Araki has ever followed through on besides Blackmore discovering Love Train.

Could a Star Platinum Requiem have gone toe to toe with King Crimson?

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Either Starless or any of the Larks Tongues. Special mention to World's my Oyster Soup and Level 5

Any Requiem could beat King Crimson which is why they want the arrow

King Crimson might be the devil

>the world showing up in part 7
>killer queen showing up in part 8
>king crimson practically confirmed for part 9
How is Araki gonna bring him back?
>make doppio/diavolo a jojo
>they are a buddy cop duo who's actually the same person trying to solve crimes in italy

The devil isn't a stand who has the power to erase time though

>part 9

If jesus has a stand why cant the devil have one as well?

King crimson will also appear in part 8 as Speed King Crimson

Because Jesus came to earth to be born as a human

What's your favorite album? I like Discipline the best as a set

someone needs to make a cock shadow edit

Thats a good reaction image, I will save it

Because it doesn't have the same power?

The main power/motivation of SCR was to stop people from retrieving the arrow, while GER's isn't.

He was a little bitch who couldn't accept the guilt of knowing he fucked up so he projected that onto the entire world, thinking that everyone would be happy if they knew their fates, despite the fact that his time thing screws over life itself and makes life not really even worth living since you're just experiencing everything at once repeatedly without any ability to decide or change.

I really want Giorno to show up in part 6 only to get curb stomped by Pucci in the fastest and most fashionable way possible.

what's one no one has mentioned yet...The Night Watch. I was actually listening to it earlier. Who's going to their 50th anniversary? I saw them a couple years ago. I also have Yes on my docket, with Steven Howe. I saw the other incarnation ARW last year. also ELP legacy(where Tarkus came from) with Carl Palmer and Arthur Brown doing vocals who I saw in January. My summer is gonna be pure fire.

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So it's been confirmed that episode 37 will air next week as normal but the last two episodes will air as a 1 hour special on the 28th of July.

I guess that means we're going to finish the main story stuff next week then have an hour long special of Sleeping Slaves + Extended epilogue.

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>an hour long special of Sleeping Slaves + Extended epilogue.
I might legitimately skip it

That is so fucking gay. Why postpone it a whole fucking month? Who thought that was a good idea? Fuck this. I want to kill these fucking jap chinks.

It's like, three weeks, calm down.

I kinda wish the guy who made Bible Black made a game named after King Crimson

TALK TALK TALK IT'S OOOOOONLY TALK

Because they wasted three weeks making recap episodes

Four, fuck you. Way to kill the momentum of the part for no fucking reason. How fucking baffling.

Next episode is going to air on the 5th, and the special is 23 days later, it's not a month.

Favorite of each album
>I Talk to the Wind
>In the Wake of Poseidon
>Prince Rupert Awakes
>Islands
>Lark's part 2
>Lament
>Fallen Angel
>Frame by Frame
>Neal and Jack and Me
>Three of a Perfect Pair
>Dinosaur
>The Construkction of Light
>Elektrik

>The Night Watch
fucking cried when listening to it for the first time

It was destined to be broken, god damn how the fuck are you guys still confused on how his ability works

I know how you feel, it took a while for it to click with me like that. Only makes me cry if I'm paying attention to it though.

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he was fucking with Diavolo. It was all a bluff

purple haze feedback

even forgetting its non-canon status, phf sucks

Pretty stupid bluff considering it could have gotten him killed

They didn't really have any other option though, it was either that or wait until another one of them got killed while trying to catch up to SCR.

Pretty sure he did it once already. or twice. One time with Narancia (f) and another time in some later part I forgot.

Anime Crimson is more based in the later part of the manga.

Absolute chad,

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>show states that these 2 have their own personal stands
No it doesn't, also
>show
just kill yourself faggot, any opinion expressed through greentext is fucking tarded beyond belief

>Chariot can remove it's armor for more speed but it's never used again.
I will always be mad at the second anime OP for part 3 because they gave SC two swords which is a reference to Anubis obviously but it could have also been an genuine ability upgrade to SC.

>After the Anubis fight Polnareff wonders if he could do two swords with Chariot and then he tries it in a later fight.

>Chariot can remove it's armor for more speed but it's never used again.
He used it against Hol Horse

>Chariot can remove it's armor for more speed but it's never used again.
used against Hol Horse, wasnt even fast enough to cut a bullet down because it dodged around his sword

But afterwards its never used again plus controlling the bullets movement is what Emperor does.

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Fucking kill yourself for continuing to force this aged as shit meme you actual downie

woah, king crimson reference? gainax confirmed for bros

If he can't use it to even cut down Emperor's bullets, what good is it actually? Especially against the rogue gallery of part 3 who all work in the shadows/try to trap and single out each protagonist

When he's defeated by GER, and his attack is being nullified, you could say he went STARLESS?

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This scene was really hype for me. I know it's not recent but the soundtrack kicking in was great. Anyone know which track it is?

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God I wish we got to see trish's panties

I can't find the track, may be on the third ost that hasn't been released yet, or maybe I just missed it.

he checks up the helicopter with cioccolatta

I know this is about the design but I'm just glad they improved this frame a bit in the blu rays.

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Kira didn't just forget his old life, he was forced into an afterlife of eternal strife and unrest, never again being able to relax and find peace of mind like he tried to his entire life. His Dead Man's Questions fate isn't overtly hellish like Kars' or Diavolo's, but it is still a fittingly brutal punishment for him.

>Chariot can remove it's armor for more speed but it's never used again.
Anubis removed some armor when possessing SC it was able to outspeed star platinum

>Boosting stands and mutating people was so inconsequential
I disagree. Boosting stands had synergy with the fact that SCR will turn your stand against you if you try to get the arrow and mutating people gave the arc a sense of urgency as it gave it a time limit.

So are there stands just not powered up anymore? Seems like he forgot immediately after saying that shit.

He also forgot about the mutations

So both times Mista was there. Is Mista an idiot?

Man, Abbacchio sure looks weird in that panel.

Well to be fair chariot gets destroyed immediately after that.

Looking back on it, I think it's the "Life" track
youtube.com/watch?v=0xyCTJTzqho

More like I repeat myself when under stress i repeat myself when under stress i repeat myself when under stress i repeat

Who influenced who?

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fuck i need to know the song here youtube.com/watch?v=WyFjFXqN1dI&t=20s

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darude sandstorm

Don't think its out yet, will probably be in the third OST

for the life of me i can't see why anyone would say part 2 is the best part or even top 3. part 2 fags help me out here

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>Top design is off-putting
>Bottom design is more appropriate

Part 2 was the best handled part in the anime.
That's probably it.

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I watched the anime up to part 4 read 5,6 went back to 1 then said fuck it I want cowboys and went to 7
part 2 was my favorite because Joseph is cool and snarky no real deeper reason
plus it has Stroheim

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>that pic

did araki just totally forget what Jonathan and Joseph looked like?

The World Over Heaven > all

>best handled in anime
Really? first seasons of anime where top tier shitfest, I have a hard time comprehending how retards whining about some QUALITY these days when they give no fucks about it back in 2012.

I detect butthurt.

Those real Araki's concepts? Got a link to more of these?

>NOT A FINGER

Request Trish doing something. I feel like drawfagging.

trish getting horny in mistas body

no, mista stinks
also gay

reading part 7 and I don't get it am I retarded

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trish hugging her daughter

you're not retarded. the joke was for japs

Part 1 and 2 looked great
If you watched the Blu-Ray release

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I would personally improve the colors. First 3 parts are surprisingly gray in comparison.
After the colors of Part 4 and 5 I don't wanna go back.

this fucking shot, man

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Red and Discipline are way better. ITCOTKC as well.

And the absolutely necessary fixes of Part 4 didn't really deliver. Not nearly the same amount of redraws despite needing it.

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It's just a jap play on words
Shitsurei = excuse me
Shi = 4
Tsu/two = 2
Rei = 0

He's just miming it with his gestures.

what a way to butcher the best villain Stand design
I don't even understand

I'm just kind of baffled that they didn't just completely redraw the poses here, for the introduction of the main villain + his stand this level of quality is a joke.

I believe David just stopped doing massive redraws in the later parts, and if they are there, they're few and far between.

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>Betamale_vs_Chad.jpg

original wasn't bad

Just BEE yourself

youtube.com/watch?v=33kAMeHVzBA

It was completely off model though

Absolute BUFFOONS in this thread not understanding that Diavolo (THE DEVIL) receiving eternal punishment (HELL) is a fitting and poetic end to his character.

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>Epitaph is Doppio's Stand
It's a sub-stand of KC & can lend its power to Doppio(and maybe, anyone bcuz Bucciarati sees the future in ch. 519/ep. 20)

>discipline

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He isn't the devil

>all this happening in mista's body

Would Donatella still think Diavolo is beautiful after this?

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Like magnets.

Why does polnareffs stand turn everyone into the thing how is that even close to the origin of the stand?

Its a fucking knight with a sword.

>Really want this figure
>£150+

>getting punished because of your fucking name rather than your actions

It's not his stand. It's Requiem.

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i only read the manga a few years ago but i dont remember this at all. what the fuck is this? what exactly did he punch and how did he figure out SCRs ability that easily?

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>what the fuck is this?
Bad writing

It's implied that what he punched and destroyed was his own soul, as it was the light casting its own shadow through Requiem's body.

Just made this.

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Nah knowing them, they probably go visit them, just to get a small chuckle. I can imagine Josuke pissing on Angelo Rock, while Giornio wrrrrrrrrry's at Diavolo for a few minutes.

Here's what I don't understand, what was the point of the hyper evolution, why did said evolution seem to turn people into monstrosities. Was this simply something that Araki added to give a sense of urgency, or does this actually makes sense in regards to Chariot Requiem

Naw man if anyone deserved infinite death it would be Cioccolata, even Diavolo was disgusted by him. The most fitting death would be for him to be outed in front of thousands of People before dying, making his attempts to hide his identity be utterly in vain.

He's symbolic of the creeping influence of evil upon Italy. If there's anything devilish it's gradual subversion of 'Good', and that's the change that's being affected by Diavolo. Plus yeah there's the name.

The only other stardust crusader he liked was Kakyoyin, everyone else was a bunch of weird jobless old guys to him.

Whoever you are this is the best summary of KC I've heard in a decade.

In part 7 entire locations can have stands. I'm sure the Devil can do it if rats, turtles, and scenery can.

Completely wrong? It looked like that in literally every frame.

Actually show us what happens after Giorno takes over. The Dream wasn't to kill the boss, the Dream was to kill the boss IN ORDER TO REFORM THE GANG.

Why does anything happen in this fucking dumb series?

I wanna finger her so bad bros