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Shimeji Simulation
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I need more of this in my life. Of all the anime and manga, this one had to catch my attention.
new chapter today, right?
When the fuck is the new chapter gonna show up?
Last I heard TL user is busy but has the raw so we should see a TL tomorrow, maybe saturday.
i see. titus bless his soul
The love of my life, my gallant knight, a beautiful sweet potato who's also my wife.
1.She probably smells good
2.She is brave and selfless
3.Her attitude keeps spirits up
4.Her body is wonderfully proportioned
5.She has pretty eyes
6.Scientifically proven high adaptability
7.She gives off a sense of warmth and softness
8.She is beautiful.
9.Hair tastes good.
10.Great sense of rhythm.
11.She would keep you warm and share food with you.
12.She is good at pressing buttons.
13.She would be a good mother.
14.Right amount of crazy.
15.Knows how to operate all weapons.
16. Fat teats.
17.She is protective of those she loves.
18.She has no inhibitions.
19.She could make a great meal.
20.She is probably god.
21.She is the coolest person in the world.
22.She inspires creativity.
23.She is very strong.
24.She is difficult to digest.
25.She makes her friend happy.
26.She knows how not to embarrass her friend in heartfelt moments.
27.She always knows the way.
28.Not afraid to experiment with the unknown.
29.Well balanced.
30.Does not get hangovers.
31.Defends the weak.
32.Athletic, could have competed on an international level if the world hadn't ended.
33. Always helpful, regardless of circumstances.
34.Not ashamed by nudity, finds it to be liberating and beautiful.
35.Greatest philosopher of her time.
36.Can harness the power of the moon.
37.Stretchy and cute face.
38.Fears no man or beast, can defeat foes despite obvious physical advantages.
39.High intelligence.
40.Can discern between the inedible and edible.
41.Her body is warm and would be nice to cuddle with.
42.She is a survivor of impossible circumstances.
43.World's greatest riflewoman.
44.Quick reflexes.
45.Great at holding hands.
46.Greatest artist of her time.
47.Not too picky about things.
48.Great with pets.
49.Talented singer.
50.Can hold her liquor.
I was waiting all day for this, and we still don't even have the raws.
51.Possible descendant of Finland.
52.God emperor of Dune.
53.Know how to FUSION.
54.Understands the complexity of human nature.
55.Cute giggle.
56.Understands the concept of death.
57.Probably fertile.
58.She would never abandon a friend.
59.Very hygienic.
60.She is extremely genki.
61.Very cute when intoxicated.
62.Defines life itself.
63.Can survive long periods without proper nutrition.
64.Understands how valuable food really is.
65.Very resourceful.
66.Highly empathetic.
67. Therapeutic, helped her friends keep it together.
68.She is very photogenic.
69.She is an excellent tactician.
70.Cute navel.
71.She is very kissable.
72.She has very nice hair.
73.She is interdimensional.
74.Hands on learner.
75.Healthy state of mind.
76.She probably tastes good.
77.She is designed for cold environments.
78.She can create culture.
79.She could be an excellent farmer.
80.She understands that somethings are just things.
81.Loves all living beings.
82.Can perform miracles.
83.She can bring people together in the name of love.
84.She sounds cute when sleeping.
85.She is very pure.
86.Very animal friendly.
87.She is very fashionable.
88.She has a wonderful smile.
89.She Is an excellent swimmer.
90.She is good at crafts.
91.She is an avid collector of fine artifacts.
92.She is an excellent dancer.
93.She has a nice butt.
94.Good vision.
95.Great taste in food.
96.She enjoys explosions.
97.She is very imaginative.
98.Can conjure items into existence.
99.She has saved lives.
100.She lived an interesting and fulfilling life.
Your continued presence comforts me for some reason. Keep being whatever you are.
I am who I am, Yuuri's spouse.
Oh well, that won't stop me.
101.Very nice skin with healthy color.
102.She’s an explorer.
103.Defies psychological concepts.
104.Doesn’t need socks.
105.She’s Yuuri!
106.Her skin is likely smooth.
107.Well padded.
108.She never gives up.
109.She enjoys building things.
110.She is an astrologist.
111.She would risk injury for the sake of her friends.
112.She does well with what little she has.
113.She can anticipate danger.
114.She owns the best rifle ever made.
115.She can sleep whenever she wants.
116.She is very supportive.
117.She knows how to discipline children.
118.An expert prankster, the last in human history.
119.She is an excellent archeologist.
120.She is an excellent anthropologist.
121.She has a really soothing and lovely voice.
122.She has the survival instinct.
123.She is an excellent medic.
124.She may prolong your life by a couple of years.
125.She is an outstanding waitress.
126.She is really cute.
127.She is very humble.
128.She gives off a motherly aura.
129.Fresh breath.
130.She is very polite.
131.She is very proud.
132.She can most definitely be trusted.
133.She is very honest.
134.She’s a terrific teacher.
135.Excellent choice in headgear.
136.She is very considerate of others.
137.Great immune system.
138.I love Yuuri!
139.Yuuri!
140.She has a really nice name.
141.She advocates for firearm ownership.
142.Adorably goofy.
143.Can operate giant death robots.
144.Has a well-balanced diet.
145.She’s hip.
146.She has great hips.
147.She is in touch with humanity.
148.She has cute feet.
149.Brilliant ecologist.
150.Keeps her equipment in good working order.
Damn I had a real clever thing for the list post, but I forgot it.
151.She’s good at remembering stuff about food.
152.She can speak various languages.
153.She’s good at digging.
154.Very strong teeth.
155.Endless.
156.She is sly.
157.She has great dental hygiene.
158.Uknown.
159.Can take the place of society.
160.Always has something to look forward too.
161.Doesn’t mind the rain.
162.Could tell a story without saying a word.
163.She has an excellent collection of milsurp.
164.She has a very soothing appearance.
165.She isn’t afraid to try new things, especially food.
166.She is difficult to put into words.
167.She’s very knowledgeable about firearms.
168.Keeps you coming back for more.
169.Trancends all language barriers.
170.Got along with hopelessness.
171.Cute armpits.
172.Able to impede the natural order.
173.Can’t be ignored.
174.A dedicated and hardworking employee.
175.Really great at hugging.
176.Wouldn’t hurt anyone, even if they wanted it.
177.May be capable of entering a hibernation mode.
178.Skilled with bashing weapons.
179.Nice legs.
180.Mysterious.
181.Really likes fish.
182.She is very sweet.
183.She is very caring.
184.Was able to kill an intelligent AI.
185.Unpredictable.
186.She is a hero.
187.She has a good head for heights.
188.She can wear the same thing every day and still look good.
189.She can tease without being too annoying.
190.She likes a challenge.
191.She can appreciate a nice chair.
192.She has a good aesthetic sense.
193.She is playful.
194.Finds joy in simple meals.
195.She is merciful.
196.She doesn't mind carrying things.
197.She is an excellent photographer.
198.She is an amazing communicator.
199.She knows when silence is best.
200.Rather than despair, she has fun.
Oh and I am getting three new additions to the Yuuri rifle collection, so that's nice.
201.She takes big, enthusiastic bites.
202.She doesn't mind the dark.
203.She likes to go off the beaten track.
204.Culinary expert.
205.She is open to new experiences.
206.She has chubby cheeks.
208.She enjoys baths
209.She is a tireless kneader of dough.
210.She respects people who can read and write.
213.She doesn't mind being hit on the head.
214.She is upbeat.
215.She can invent the art of music from first principles.
216.She will never die.
217.She can appreciate a nice view.
218.She knows the importance of a pantry.
219.She can find sugar.
220.She is content with no bed.
221.She looks at her friend's sleeping face.
222.Lives in the moment.
223.Can conjure items into existence.
224.Frequently laughs.
225.Appreciates architecture.
226.She doesn't get travel-sick.
227.Compression resistant face.
228.She warns of obstacles in the road ahead.
229.She's a natural drummer.
230.She is happy to show the way.
231.She is great at stacking rocks.
232.Made an incredible contribution to literature despite being illiterate.
233.She blows bubbles.
234.She can find humour in every situation.
235.She makes a fine, big fish.
236.She would be great at hide-and-seek.
237.She's content with the road as her home.
238.She doesn't mind that her boots are too big.
239.She will never stop being Yuuri.
240.Expert Snowman builder.
241.She has a soothing snore.
242.She would make an excellent nurse.
243.She would make an excellent pastry chef.
244.She would make an excellent primary-school teacher.
245.She would make an excellent ice-skater.
246.She would make an excellent stand-up comic.
247.She is good at finding water.
248.She can find warmth.
249.She does not realize she is beautiful.
250.The cold does not affect her shooting ability.
And yes, I saw it, who ever you are.
251.She is always curious.
252.She can find paradise in a warm bath.
253.She would be a good mech pilot.
254.She is very gallant.
255.She retains her individuality in all universes.
256.Plays by her own rules.
257.She is an inspiration.
258.She takes care of others.
259.She looks out for others.
260.She is very gentle.
261.She is easy to live with.
262.She defers to her friend's wisdom.
263.Excellent marching form.
264.She is very resourceful.
265.Appreciates the blue sky.
Jesus, your autism is on another level. Don't stop
fuck oh well
Why not make a thread when we actually have a translation?
or better yet dump the raws
Where are the raws?
cant find em sadly
if we were to do an Yea Forums streams Shoujo Shuumatsu, should it be for the manga anniversary or the anime anniversary
Anime anniversary, naturally.
You only knew about her because of the anime, animeonly. Fraud.
I was introduced to Yuuri through the anime, I've said this before.
But I have read the manga several times and currently am reading it again.
I agree, there's no real point in posting now since there's no TL.
I feel like there's been a bit too many early threads as of late.
it it that bad to discover SSR through the anime? I had never seen a thread for it before the anime was announced and going through desu shows that barely any people knew about it.
>Animeonly
do you fail to see the manga volumes in his pictures?
The most depressing time of the month has finally come!
I wonder does tkmiz know about tsuguket 2, or the Tsugu cave.
Okay
shimeji-chan is cute
don't post off-topic blogposty crap this early into the thread.
if you want to have an epic suicide larp go to /trash/.
Did the raw come already or not yet?
I recently got the physial releases of the six volumes in english, I haven't done another re-read yet, but whilst skimming through it, I noticed even more fish-stuff that I didn't notice before. The restaurant from the afterword of volume 3 is called "Le Piosson". And some of the cans the girls have, have a fish logo and "Sakana" on them, the same as on shimeji clothes in pic related.
It's out
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Based and Yuupilled!
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>this level of autism
Impressive
>14.Right amount of crazy.
At least you have something in common with her
お待たせ、待った? Anyway, here’s chapter 6.
1
"I like rainy days..."
"They're calming."
"Gotta get up..."
"...?"
"There’s an extra..."
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A change in the shimejis on her head!?
2
"I dig rainy days too~"
"They're, like, calming."
She's not listening...
"I dig how calming rainy days are!!"
"You're loud."
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"...Shimeji-chan,"
"there's something different about you today..."
staaaare
"Ah!"
"Did you switch shampoos?"
"I didn't."
"Ahh, you're right."
"There's three now."
"It's because the air's damp from the rain, I think..."
"Ahh, makes sense. They're mushrooms, after all."
"It'd suck if it's here to stay..."
"Hmm... I'm sure you'll be fine."
"I mean, my egg turns half-done if I'm sick."
sniff sniff
"I don’t get it..."
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"Cute~"
nudge nudge
"Don't touch them..."
"They're stuck pretty hard in there."
squeeze squeeze
"Mm..."
"This hardness... Playing with them like this feels kinda lewd..."
"Lewd?"
"Did you say it's lewd or something?"
"Huh? Did you read my mind!?"
"...?"
"..."
"Uhh, by hard I mean..."
"They're as hard as a pencil... Right! They're as hard as an H pencil."
Pencil...
"Ah, I can actually read your mind."
"..."
"Seems like it doesn’t work if you aren’t touching them..."
"Shimeji, the heck!?"
"That’s spooky!"
Hieeee
"Class is starting-"
"..."
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"I don't get it, but it's not a problem, I guess..."
"Getting my head touched rarely happens anyway."
"No one would go and touch my head here..."
"Tomato's tomato soup! Tomato's tomato soup!"
"Tomato’s tomato soup...?"
"Oh, it reached you."
"Hey, you! Put away the broom!"
“We’ll go over this part quickly.”
“First, about the civilisation’s birth. A big river’s crescent moon zone...”
“All we do in world history class is listen. It’s simple...”
“Focus on what the teacher’s saying...”
“The world’s Four Great Civilisations, so to speak...”
“Tired... hurry.. ho....”
“Huh, seems like I can read his mind if I focus...”
“Guess you’ve learned everything up to this point back in middle school... Let’s take a deeper look.”
“What should I make for dinner...”
“Right... tomato... minestrone...”
“To start off...”
“Tomato soup’s a hit now.”
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“Can I hear the others’ too if I focus on them...?”
ssshhhhhhh
“...”
“...”
“Mesopota...”
“...”
“The sounds’ are all cut up. I can’t hear them well...”
“But...”
“They sound like rain...”
“...”
“...”
“Everyone’s thoughts”
“rains down in a blend...”
“...”
“Hmm... something among the noise”
“sounds like a melody.”
“On top of the rain’s noise...”
yu -> ゆ
“Whose thought is it...? What a mysterious melody...”
“Hers, huh...”
“She’s really into it...”
onions flour -> きなこ
uhh, is the world -> えー世界って
hittite -> ヒッタイト
ugh -> う
tomato soup -> トマト煮
meat -> 肉
bored -> つまんね
ah -> あ
they’re -> たち
ahh, i’m so bored -> あーたいくつ
i love hammurabi’s code -> ハムラビ法典すき
boobs -> おっぱい
hi -> ひ
world history’s fun -> 世界歴おもしり
wood -> 木
shime -> しめー
snasnasnail -> ムリムリカタツムリ
shelf -> おくら
Fucking filter, it's "S O Y flour" not onion.
“It’s done!”
“What is it, Ayaka?”
“Ayaka, what is it?”
“Hey, sit.”
“I’ve finished my new song, so I’ll go and record it.”
“You think I’ll give you permission?”
“Hey, tomatop!!”
“No, uh, stop!”
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“Well, whatever...”
“Let’s continue the lesson-”
“...”
“The downpour from everyone's surprise...”
“calmed down after a while, and became a drizzle.”
“It really is like rain.”
Home
“Huh, so you have three shimejis...”
“and you can read minds now.”
“...Well, stuff like that happen sometimes.”
Happened to me
“What do I do if more grows?”
“Hmm, if that happens...”
“We’ll pluck and use them for pasta.”
“I don’t think I want to eat them...”
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“...”
“Sis, let me...”
“Hm.”
“...?”
My dream that night was a little bit different from normal.
“Cactus.”
“Fish...”
I was in a place I had neither been nor seen before.
“Junk...”
I was looking for “Yoshika” there.
“Yoshika...”
“Yoshika.”
“Where are you?”
“Huh?”
“It’s Sis...”
“What is she doing?”
And that's it folks. Join us again next month for another chapter from tkmiz-sensei.
I looked at her
then I became her.
“...”
“...”
Did the new shimeji
drove me into her dream?
I can’t remember what I... no, what my sister was thinking back then.
“Alright.”
When I woke up in the morning, the rain has stopped and the shimejis were two again.
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The enigma of the shimeji...!
thank you
But the one with egg should be Kotoura-san.
that's a little gay
It is a yuuri manga.
thanks TL-kun!
should we let the thread die and do an actual thread for the chapter or do we leave it here?
heh
Awesome, thank you TL-user you never dissapoint!
Last chapter we had a random long cat in the background of a panel, now we get a random Yoshika in a panel, SS is strange.
How Lewd, also half-done egg is cute!
I guess SS truly is a supernatural manga now, this is fucking weird and interesting.
The sound of rain huh? SSR flashbacks
Why am I not surprised that tkmiz's thoughts are all fish.
I fucking called it, that there would be a dream sequence, it even includes the part tkmiz tweeted. If shimeji is looking for Yoshika in her dreams, that might support user's theory that Yoshika is actually Yoochan from the prequel.
>I looked at her
>then I became her.
What drugs does tkmiz take?
Also I think it should be "drive" instead of "drove", though perhaps "take" or even "transport" would sound more natural.
>When I woke up in the morning, the rain has stopped and the shimejis were two again.
Sooo the head-objects can evolve over time and they can grant super powers. I wonder if we'll maybe get different powers on different people, or if only the mind-reading shimeji will come back?
The dream-land and the weird machine tkmiz/shimeji built looks like something out of SSR, there's gotta be some more concrete connections.
I thought we would get some answers this chapter about the nature of the distortions tkmiz was talking about, but instead ch6 raised even more questions, I hope we'll get some answers eventually.
Over all, pretty good chapter, I liked the look of the dream land, and the supernatural elements.
And now to wait for another month.
Not him, but I think we should let it stay here, we don't want to shit up the catalog and this is a pretty new thread, not that many posts yet.
ah, I'm here just in time for the thread for the new chapter from my mangaka wife.
>What drugs does tkmiz take?
probably an SSRI and hrt
>wife (male)
When's lemon nuko showing up?
and now we wait for next month
Such a pain.
Such a interesting girl. Hope she joins the named cast soon.
I know she named her fish pencil case Yoshika. But was Yoshika also the full name of Yocchan, her deceased girlfriend from junior high?
half a decade asking for new filters and what we get is this shit.
do you guys think Ayaka's song will be relevant for the plot later on?
what are the mathematical properties of fish?
you should be able to solve this
I wonder if Shijima is actually inside of Sis' dream or if it's her own dream.
Also, can we try not to connect this with SSR just yet? I only want to have a comfy discussion about SS without people screaming "POTATOES ARE IN THE SIMULATION" and such.
Sure is an interesting girl, casually bringing an oscilloscope with her to school.
About Yoshika, it's just a theory, we don't know yet, we don't even know if the prequel is canon.
She dreamt about being Ishii and making a plane like thing that clearly won’t work. The world onee-san is trying to save is the SSR one not the one they’re in.
I agree we need more SS discussion, not just SSR though they are connected.
Chekhov's gun dictates that the song should come up, this isn't the first time her musical abilities come up chapter 4, perhaps in future chapters, Shimeji will enter other peoples dreams/minds, sort of like how she did with her sister, if that happens maybe music will play a big part of that girl's dreams. Shimeji in Psychonauts 2 confirmed.
It says "my dream", but it also says "I can’t remember what I... no, what my sister was thinking back then.". Hopefully we'll get some clarity as to what is going on in future chapters.
Also did you guys notice that inside dream-land Shimeji already has 2 mushrooms, not 3.
I also have to applaud tkmiz's panelling again, or I guess the art "behind" them. especially is very nice and kind of trippy, with parts behind pannels, the stairs in front and one panel, not being a panel, but a window, creative stuff.
Now I kind of want to go through all of tkmiz's art with Shimeji in it, just to check if there is any art with her having 3 mushrooms and we just never noticed.
With humanity died out, what would she be trying to save there anyway?
We Yume Nikki now.
Where is she going to put that leek?
She's gonna spin it
I love the panelling
It's really wonderful, has been throughout. The title cards used to display detail, backgrounds setting location, and the frames themselves being objects in the world, it makes all other 4koma look lazy.
Have you seen this?
youtube.com
SSR at 0:11, 0:45 and 0:54(Yuuri user here).
slowpoke
Sorry user.
How is this going to be typeset? This is really cool though. I didn't even notice the words initially. Tkmiz also uses the entire page for artwork instead of just the panels, which from what few 4koma manga I've read is pretty unique. I wonder if Shimeji Simulation was originally not going to be a 4koma but it just ended up somehow being picked up by a magazine that publishes those.
These two pages are a better example of this. Really interesting in seeing where the manga will go because it keeps getting more and more interesting.
>that person on the window outside the panels
what does it mean?
that's some awesome panelling right there
I don't know what's more painful, the wait or the chapters.
The person is probably just a little background detail without any meaning, but it does look like they have a book on their head, maybe pic related.
And hell yea, the panelling is awesome. I don't even know why SS is a 4koma, maybe because of Cune ? I don't know. It deviates from the standard 4koma format very often and that's a good thing in my opinion.
It's the sprout girl, why is she about to jump?
Sprout is sitting to the left of Shimeji though
>The person is probably just a little background detail without any meaning
really? I doubt anyone would draw something like that for nothing.
maybe if the whole building was full of those you could say it was meaningless
>but it does look like they have a book on their head, maybe pic related.
You think? to me it looks more like the A.I from SSR I'm not trying to scream SIMULATION, its just a thought
You crazy bastard.
Honestly at first I didn't think too much about it, and it kind of looked to me like those hats people in america wear when they graduate, but now that you mention it, it does kind of look like the ai, pic related. I'm trying not to be grasping at straws and I don't want to overthink it, but if it was the ai, it would make sense, given SS is probably a simulation, and in that picture she does kind of look like she is overseeing the whole scene so to speak.
I want to say Shoujo Shuumatsu is existentialist philosophy but I could be wrong.
>deceased girlfriend from junior high
>prequel
There's a prequel? Yocchan sounds familiar but I don't remember if I've ever read what you guys are talking about.
It's a Yuri strip made by tkmiz, which features Shijima (before she got the mushrooms) having sex with a girl named Yocchan, who kills herself at the end of the strip.
dynasty-scans.com
What about Yocchan Nr. 2?
>Tags: Depressing as fuck, What the fuck am I reading
O-oh, that was an interesting read to say the least. Thanks guys.
depressing_ass_fuck
is this Tkmiz's fetish?
I wish (s)he did more hentai
>mfw there will be one day Yuri poster will run out of things to say
>mfw one day, a thread will die without the wall of text
bulge
>sharing scarf
>holding hands
I thought this was a family friendly story
Guys I think I'm in love with Chii-chan, what should I do?
Too late, Chii is for Yuu.
you can't trust anything that isn't a blue board user
tkmz is souless i don't get what you see in his ms paint tear scribbles. he is just clearly ripping off hidamari sketch and the only thing he draws is moe blobs and rants about how depressed they are on twitter or how they jizzed on their ipad or wore little girl panties to school one time
don't give him (you)s
If Yuuanon can have you then why can't I have Chito?
I can give you 265 reasons.
Is this by tkmiz? Where'd you find it?
gelbooru.com
Her old art is on Gelbooru.
>Her
Sorry, it's old art is on Gelbooru.
>His
Not all of it, there's more in the Mega someone posted in the thread.
Tkmiz(male)
how did his art regress so much instead of getting better?
Tkmiz(tkmiz)
I self insert as Chii
tkmiz(tkmaleiz)
Thanks for the link user! I'm gonna add those lewd pics to the mega.
Uuuuuh he drew a lewd of Hakase, I'm not sure how to feel about this.
What's this about tkmiz being a male? I thought she was female for the longest time.
So tell me anons, have you accepted that the taters are the new transfer students in Isekai Quartet season 2? I mean, the studio already did the taters once, it would be easy for them to do it again, and surely seeing them iteract with all the wacky characters from those iseakais would lead to kneeslapping situations.
>but SSR isn't an isekai
Maybe so, but SS is, I mean the potatoes got transported from their world to the world of SS, clearly an isekai.
Taters techically got isekai'd for Jugyou
so?
their twitter posts give them away as male also they have very masculine hands.
most people assume tkmiz is female or live in denial and pretend they are regardless of the evidence
Maybe they're transgender, have you ever thought of that?
>muh bandwidth
SSR is one of my favorite series out there, but them being in Isekai Quartet would be fucking dumb. I hope thisis a meme.
Not him, but it's not about the bandwidth, it's about thread quality. The more often a themed thread gets posted the worse and worse the quality of the threads get, take a look at /vg/ as a whole for an example. Having the threads only once a week or when a new chapter of SS is released helps the thread quality remain high.
>bandwidth
What does bandwidth have to do with not wanting the threads to be ass?
it would explain their autistic level of fascination of yuri that it feels like their kink.
most trans females tend to be over fascinated to yuri to the point it becomes autistic and they fear anything het.
the two potatoes in girls last tour meet a male and not one of them thinks about securing a future for humanity by breeding with him, which is just autistically unrealistic writing on tkmz.
all of her(male) self portraits are female wearing men's clothing
I think might unironically be the case
>the two potatoes in girls last tour meet a male and not one of them thinks about securing a future for humanity by breeding with him, which is just autistically unrealistic writing on tkmz.
this series is the best kind of non-sensical, like comparable to Inio Asano but actually enjoyable and non-sensical in a way that's easy to digest
Opened the thread just to make sure you made it. And you've already posted your guns without me having to ask, gj!
they both don't stay to breed with him and let humanity perish because they put their selfish needs before the good of the future.
You can't create enough genetic diversity with 3 people to repopulate the planet, user. I think you need somewhere around 1,000 people.
user, aside from the fact that it wouldn't fit with the manga, three people isn't nearly enough to repopulate the planet even slightly, and the baby is more likely to die.
and where would the food for this future come from?
you need at least 2000 humans to bounce back safely, and at that point in history having twelve people in thousand mile radius would be strike of luck
they probably are trans unironically because all they ever write or draw is female characters that they probably self insert themselves as and all they ever draw or write is yuri relationships to an autistic level e.g mushroom mc girl of shimeji simulation claims she doesn't want a friend but some how thinks accepting another girl instead as her lover isn't more work and is easier???
it honestly gets autistic and not just because it's yuri but it's yuri for the sake of yuri and nothing else it's not even like the two girls have good chemistry or anything their interactions feel forced.
With the level of tech just lying around in their city I'm sure they could have just done IPS if they wanted to bring another human into this dead world.
humanity started with two people i think three is more than enough
three is more than enough and they just keep breeding and poping out babies until they can't anymore and then those babies breed with each other a lot and eventually it will create genetic diversity especially when there is enough people to separate into new areas.
they could learn to farm and stop hoping on other peoples efforts to make food in the past will keep them alive.
nah you just need two and then let history and time do the rest with constant breeding.
It's like Charles Shulz, it's not so much regressing as changing styles.
oh, we found a creationist
shame, i hoped for intelligent discussion
>they could learn to farm and stop hoping on other peoples efforts to make food in the past will keep them alive.
farm what?
Where the hell do you grow up to be this badly educated?
>humanity started with two people
Actually, while Adam and Eve were the "first humans" if you actually read the bible it's implied that there were already other groups before them.
Else where would Cain/Seth get their wives (who were never stated to be related)?
>humanity started with two people
Then where did Cain and Able's wives come from?
if god can create two people he can make more people if needed
I mean, it’s not like we could cross breed with the other homo species at the time, oh wait.
Homos can't breed
Don't give the bait (You)s
plants still exist, they can go on an all green diet and learn to steam some leafs and and stuff
>I looked at her
>then I became her.
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose dreams are like this. It's such a special feeling to wake up after one of those.
>plants still exist
I'm beginning to think you didn't read the manga or watch the show, the only extant plants got eaten or smoked.
>Have shitty dreams all week
>the newest SS chapter is dream related
What did he mean by this?
I feel like all this shitty bait we've been getting over the past month is probably just one sad sad user, who cannot get along with hopelessness at all, please don't give him (You)s
That's sad now that I think about it. I mean, shit, I can't get along with it but I wouldn't imagine taking it out on the SS threads.
>plants still exist
I want to be a plant in a post-apocalyptic world.
Take melatonin. Write dream journal. Gain insight into own psyche. Repeat as needed.
>Gain insight into own psyche
Sounds scary desu
new Tkmiz art
Thanks as always to the anons dumping, translating, and typsetting this.
>egg head finally molests Shimeji's Shimejis
I didn't realize this chapter would be that lewd.
>the background is the scene
>that panel that serves as a window for Shimeji to look through
I really like where tkmiz is going with this.
Don't mind me, just taking my Yuu for a walk.
Where is the wide?
didn't tkmiz learn to colour in the lines
Post tkmz manly hands drawing the potatoes
Orchesc/a/ns here. Cleans/TS should probably be done by tomorrow.
thank you for your hard work
One more shroom?
>wife(fish)
Increase Zinc intake, sleep 8 hours a day, stop masturbating more than 2 times per month.
But why
>ywn hug tkmiz and feel it's cold, slimy, scaly fish body wriggle against you
So you can sleep in peace.
Blessed mega-user, keep up the good work.
I haven't had a peaceful sleep in years user
Best tkmiz art.
I fucking HATE Chinatsu.
what did tkmiz mean by this
Many must suffer for the visage of the Yurus.
I wish I had a friend to commit double suicide
At least I didn't get in the thread after bump limit this time
I'm right here though, user.
What did he mean by this?
Oh shit.
kek
>texas education
Thats my favorite art too
Well, yet another comfy and depressing read.
I never knew depressed slice of life could be so enjoyable.
>he
Congratulations! you just learned to live along with the hopelessness
Yoshiko has a guitar and Ayaka seems to play the piano/keyboard. I wonder if these three are in a band.
There have also been a few images of Shimeji''s sister with a guitar, and in one of them, Shimeji is on mic. Maybe there will be a battle-of-the-bands at some point.
I order Cune from Japan each month, and I have flipped through some of the other series. Oddly enough, most of the other series in the magazine don't adhere to the 4koma format at all, and just seem to be normal manga. Among the handful that do, none of them experiment with it at all. tkmiz seems to be the only artist that adheres to the format while still finding cool things to do with it.
why are these suicide pieces so comfy?
Because you empathize with the characters and can somewhat live vicariously through them. Seeing them kill/hurt themselves satisfies your craving to do it to yourself a little bit.
That's why I like them, at least.
stop trying to derail this into suicide posting.
Suicidal K-on.
>implying this isn't a suicide thread
I'm betting half the anons in these threads have killed themselves since SSR ended. Maybe more.
that pic makes my arm tingle in a nice way
based tingly arm user
>like リスカ artwork because it's too relatable
>there's so little of it
I wish I could draw.
>NSSI
Also, Lonely Kagamin's author is getting an anime.
I wish it wasn't so limited in quantity. The only manga I've read that involved it heavily fucking sucked too.
Delet this
Ayaka is cute.
nips who've met him also claim he's a dude
The worst part of SS is finding something to do to fill time inbetween chapters.
Why's he so secretive about his identity? Is it just part of his shtick?
Could just value privacy or not want a name out there. I dunno, maybe it's just the way I look at it since I'd do the same.
That's fair enough, I think I'd do the same, I'm just really curious what he looks like so I can put a face to his art but maybe that would ruin some of the mystery.
Most Japanese artists and authors are like that.
a lot of japanese mangaka just seem to be very privacy-minded. like ume-sensei only appearing with her ghost hat.
tkmiz just bumped it up a notch by larping as a depressed tranny on twitter
>Ume's size
IMAGINE
Pretty neat how their culture accepts stuff like that, here in the West you'd be ostracized and called a psycho for wanting to remain anonymous when you have fame.
I'd prefer you didn't
130-140cm.
I remember the first time I came across this phenomenon, I was reading a Q&A with an LN author and he declined to say the model of a motorcycle he used to ride because apparently there were relatively few of them in the country. I was wondering just how paranoid you have to be to be afraid that someone is going to find the documentation for every unit of a motorcycle imported into the country and hunt down every single owner over years of ownership just to track down the author of a pretty mundane LN series. But I guess that's just how it be over there.
many mangakas decide to hide their identify because nips tend to go full retard when it comes to be fan of someone or their work, I remember a story about a creepo taking a selfie on a bathroom and a chair that some idol used it a minutes ago
What manga is that?
>larping as a depressed tranny on twitter
and in her(male) work
and her(male) IRL
Mahou Shoujo Site.
If memory serves right it's edgy for the sake of being edgy and kept trying to get me to take my pills.
Take your pills, user.
>tfw was expecting disaster after running out of pills a month ago
>instead feel exactly the same as before
Shimeji Simulation and tkmiz threads are the best medicine for the soul anyway. God bless these wonderful potatoes.
Thanks tkmiz I knew these pens I put in my ass were too small
Rare tkmiz, not sure if mega user has that one in his archive, or maybe I've just skimmed over it.
It's there. I update my folders every so often and there's a ton to go through.
You ever cum so hard it feels like something broke inside?
Yes but what does this have to do with the thread?
haha imagine kissing tkmiz on the lips haha
I Googled リスカ just to see what I can find and I'm actually surprised by how many self harm pics the Japs post on social media.
I wonder just how common it is there. Guess it makes sense considering what life is generally like there. Makes me wonder how much Tkmiz is influenced by day-to-day life in Japan for the stuff he writes too, since a lot of his work is about just learning to live with what you've got.
in order to keep discussion relevant i assume the only thing you're allowed to break with cum is your tablet
I never knew this perverted highschool girl panty otaku is so small and portable. Damn.
Typeset when
God damn some of those pictures make me feel dizzy looking at them. I hope tkmiz doesn't do stuff like that, or not to the extreme levels some of the #リスカ pictures on Twitter are.
apparently chiwa saito asked her and aoi yuuki to form a "minimum squad" in the PMMM blu-ray commentary. she also sings very cool songs youtu.be
>ywn hear tkmiz sing a character song
i want to hear tkmiz sing!
Thank you orchesc/a/ns user!
A battle-of-the-bands could be interesting. Since big sis is kind of a self-insert of tkmiz, I wonder if she actually plays the guitar, or maybe wishes s he did.
Perhaps Tkmiz decided to make a 4-koma as a challenge to herselfimself and or to differentiate SS from SSR, maybe he worries about being seen as a one trick pony.
That sounds like someone with low zinc intake who sleeps less than 8 hours a day and masturbates more than 2 times per month would say.
Why do you even have pills in the first place?
got em
In my experience it tends to look worse than it actually is desu
sauce?
she has the best taste in anime
>she
>#リスカ pictures on Twitter
twitter.com
Nice.
why
That artist really loves drawing cutting, and long sleeved hoodies covering it.
I don't mind someone drawing some cutting, it's relatable and gives me an excuse to, but why rub them on a dick?
>he
Because it's hot?
haha but what if that kiss was when you were getting married it would be even funnier lmao haha
whatever you're into i guess
>motorcycle
was it the author of Kino?
>the author of Kino will never show up in front of your home one day on his motorcycle waiting for you so you can ride it into the sunset with him
Does Sigsawa even own a motorbike? I know that he own firearms, but a motorbike is kinda cutting it.
I think the milk expired
Reminder that only attention whores write notes or drop "hints"
lostallhope.com
user you posted that image earlier and now you're writing a shitty post with it, stop being a faggot.
Damn someone beat me to my suicide posting.
That isn't me though.
t. user who posted it earlier and got it deleted
Please post your best Nukos!
>they?
>tkmiz!
anyone made their own fish?
So what does "simulation" mean?
It's just Tkmiz playing The Sims and illustrating what happened
It was a gift from a friend.
Cute! I want one!
>the nuko
>the keychains
>a fucking old white keyboard
That's pretty based user
Yes it was Sigsawa.
soggy cheeto
good friend
Where did Egg get all of that pussy?
At the pussy store
Chito has a drinking problem.
the egg has cracked
i want a tkmiz visual novel
youtube.com
Zig was right
Same
Girl's Last Vacation
holy shit that's how it looks for me
fuck im disgusting
Don't do that, user
>tfw the tingle will never go away
Well, at least it gives me something to do between chapters.
It's not worth the scars.
Shoulda told me that about 4 or 5 years ago, user-kun.
You should still stop so you don't make it any worse than it already is.
What is this? Is there a TL?
Not sure, an user posted them a few threads back and said he couldn't find a translation either.
but it feels nice and helps me distract myself.
someone get tkmiz to philosophize for Kakifly in order to save K-ON Shuffle pls
What happened with Shuffle?
nothing it's just boring
Is that really a surprise though? The original K-On manga wasn't very good either imho, especially compared to the anime.
HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS.
Work was too much today, hopefully it'll be done by Monday or Tuesday but no promises.
However I promise it'll be soon.
Take all the time you need dude just remember to breathe between cock suckings.
Thank you for the hard work you put in.
I was hoping he'd get gud with age
>uncomfortable and slightly nervous nuko
whenever you get it done it's done
don't feel pressured, we're all thankful we even have someone to do this for us
I searched high and low for a TL or even the original source and there's not a single trace of it anywhere online from what I found.
Could an user have made it?
From 2channel? Maybe.
>webm
someone should actually make some of these and place them around
Godspeed, Yuurifag.
I fear that they'd become areas of mass suicide if these randomly started appearing.
I had a disgusting thought of that one Canadian guy who killed himself by jumping off a building but instead of hitting the concrete floor he landed on one of these and had it go straight up his asshole and died a few hours later because of it, and imagining the same happening to some user with one of the fucking nuko shrines.
God damn it now if I don't hang myself I have to watch for any objects that might go up my ass if I goomba stomp them when I jump.
I'll try to find an old telephone pole and go to town on it, I've already started small-scale.
>strange statues start appearing all around the world
>at first seems like the workings of an ARG or a cult
>actually just some randos referencing a manga they like on a Vietnamese bucket drumming forum
>find an old telephone pole and go to town on it
Please don't fuck a telephone pole
>news gets a hold of it and contributes it to the alt right
Here you go.
"It's"
"heart-"
"...What? I can't hear you... ah."
"Sorry."
"I'm sorry..."
"Chii-chan."
"What are they...?"
"..."
"A rope and a bucket...?"
"That's not what I'm asking..."
>tfw still don't get it
Thanks for translating though.
What would a nuko in the butt feel like?
it would be very painful
amazing
I haven't checked in on the last few threads, have I missed anything?
Any anons commited sudoku yet?
>"How these strange statues are the newest white supremacist dogwhistle"
>article by Chaim Goldsteinowitzberg
I can't imagine being depressed or suicidal when you have a friend like Yuu by your side. Unless Yuu is actually dead and is only appearing to Chi as a persistent hallucination because Chi is unable to come to terms with Yuu's death and the cognitive dissonance between reality and her defensive hallucinations is driving her to madness and depression. I could see that.
Having a friend will not save you if you have an actual chemical imbalance in your brain.
what did you fags just make me start reading
a very good manga
Yuu could save me from a chemical imbalance.
This is very deep. Literally the Digging Holes Club.
Not yet, I have this to read.
Just read this. What's so hopeless about it? Seems pretty heartwarming to me.
Girls' Last Tour is hopeless, Shimeji Simulation probably will be too but it's only 6 chapters in.
brehs
that tree is LITERALLY me
Hole Digging/Filling Club is LITERALLY the cycle of society. Nee-chan even admitted in the same page that she's saving the world, and they way she's doing it is incomprehensible to Shimeji-san, just like how humans fail to comprehend each others motivations across generations.
>ywn take a comfy post-apocalyptic bath after spending all day out in the freezing cold
Because there is no food.
On The Kardashev Scale they were a type 1 civilisation, they completely re-engineered their planet to eliminate nature and maximise living space and industry, once they fell as a civilisation they were fucked because they could not rebuild. Primitive farming was an impossibility for them, all they could do is scavenge through the trash of their ancestors. People were dying out because the cycle of nature was cut completely.
That's okay user, thank you for doing it all the same!
How would tkmiz react if random anons put up nuko statues around the world? People would probably think it's a promotion for a season 2 of the SSR anime, but tkmiz would have to weirded out by it.
It really fucked me up when I realized that Ishii spent all that time and energy building her plane so she could escape the city and had the ability to go pretty much anywhere but the only place she could escape to was another city because there simply wasn't anything else left. I guess part of her relief on having failed was because she knew it wouldn't have mattered anyway, so just doing whatever she could was the goal in itself all along.
I think it's at least good she had a goal in life (building the plane), in which she kind of succeeded, it gave her a purpose in life, similarly the taters were trying to reach the top level, which they did in the end. Granted neither Ishii or the girls got anything out of it in the end, but what I think mattered, is that while they were working on achieving their goals, it gave them purpose and it made their lives seem worth living, I think that's kind of the idea of getting along with hopelessness that tkmiz tried to convey with SSR. Basically life is meaningless, but that doesn't matter you should despair, try to make the most of out while you can. Or at least that's the was I see it at least.
How does tkmiz get away with this paneling?
its a very abstract interpretation of 4koma
It's the best interpretation of 4koma desu.
>its face
>please don't put me in there
Please tell me that's water.
I think that is a shadow
You never know
Isn't it Yuu who is having the suicidal thoughts here?
When you think about it, is there a purpose in getting along with the hopelessness? Is it even possible? It seems like something nobody can quite fully comprehend.
"Chemical imbalances" can absolutely happen due to things like loneliness and prolonged stress. Do you think every depressed person is just fated to be depressed from the start?
So what you're telling me is I can manipulate it and make the imbalance worse manually myself?
If you want to sure, but depressed people do that anyways. Eat poorly, sleep poorly, isolate yourself, do nothing of value, and just generally don't take care of yourself and I'm sure you'll be as depressed as can be soon enough.
I've been doing that for the past few years unintentionally then. Guess I don't have to work and just keep going as I was.
I still want to make it worse for some
reason though.
Deja vu.
Idiot should have dove head first, no wonder he had to kill himself.
It's along the line of "if you can't do anything about it, don't worry about it." Literally everyone in SSR lost everything they had in the end, but on the flip side, they had nothing more to worry about. They literally can't do anything about their situation, and by extension they had no responsibility, so they just let go.
Depends on the scale, of course, but I think it's pretty doable.
Wouldn't you pass out from shock?
crystal cafe please
Maybe it was a pleasuring experience
I actually can't tell, I dont know if it's the paneling or what but it's kind of hard to read
cringe, fuck off
>"It's"
>"heart-"
It looks like she's saying 本当に 心当たらないの
Do you really not know
Welcome to Yea Forums(nel), where did you come from?
It's not even 4 panels so I guess it's a very wild interpretation
Yes it is
The panel with your scribbles is obviously a panel too.
What. Why would she say class is dismissed and then keep talking? "Border" is 4 and the other one is 5.
>xd xdd im here for 1 year so I'm old
kill yourself rat, back to your containment shitposting board
based ume-sensei
...
So is the waitress a panel as well?
There is no reason why the border can not be wider than the panel as demonstrated in the page.
Did I imply that the border is last?
I simply numbered the elements the page.
It is preciously because the border comes before the last panel chronologically that gives the paneling the abstract nature.
There is absolutely no reason why the events portrayed in the border can not happen before the last panel, because where as in mos other 4komas borders are kept empty or used for info dumps or eye catches, tkmiz uses it as an element of further story expression
There are five panels, not four. It's not a 4koma.
I'm not making a generalization about every scribble in marginals, but surely you see the original "border" panel isn't comparable to a character even on the basis it is actually structured as a panel, even with the background elements framing the content in a square. And as another user pointed out, unless you consider "border" a part of the panel structure, manga flows unnaturally. Your example isn't comparable and I'm not sure if you're even being serious about this all as it's absolutely simple.
This, the image on this post inarguably a 4koma in form, each panel follows the standard pattern, and part of a story starts and is finished in each four panel section, it doesn't matter that the border was used.
Then you have , and I honestly think you could look at the panelling here in a lot of ways. If "3" counts as a panel, it seems clear that "border" should count as a panel as well, which would make it five panels. If we don't count either, it's 3 panels. You could easily look at "1" and "2" as a single panel to make it four, however, it doesn't follow the form of a 4koma in any way. A single person is talking, and that thread continues between each panel, there is no story starting and ending in these panels, it's exposition. While this seems to follow a similar pattern to the previous, I can't see how you could argue that this page is a 4koma.
Ah, you're right.
And what can I say to this?
>but surely you see
is not an argument but an apeal.
You are arbitrarily saying that because here more plot information is given that it is somehow more important than waitress here, who is just an eye catch.
I say that in both cases the content of the border is irrelevant.
>unless you consider "border" a part of the panel structure
Both the border and panels are part of the "page structure".
A 4koma consists typically of 4 panels and border that surrounds them, generally you see it doubled to 8 panels, but that does not change the basic idea of "4 panels".
>manga flows unnaturally
Only if you assume that 1st->2nd->3rd->4th->Rest trumps Right-to-Left reading.
>Your example isn't comparable
and One uses the border to provide some extra eyecatch and a quick remark, the other has a cute waitress thanking someone(the reader) for patronage(of the manga), which, is also an eyecatch and a monologue.
One is simply a more extreme case of the other. Border integration in the story is not a clear line but a gradient
You claim that what I have labeled "Border" is integral to the story, but in fact it is purely the opinion of the teacher and is segregated from rest of the story and is in fact, not crucial to the explanation of the tree.
If the border is ignored, the 4 panels have the teacher introduce and explain the tree and conclude the class.
>I believe that representing all of it, is one of the main functions of art
becomes an utilitarian statement. Where as if you insert teachers musings, it gains artistic perspective.
The separation of Teachers personal opinion from fact can represent how a student can zone out when a teacher starts rambling and only return back to the class when it ends.
You want an actual argument why it might not be a 4koma?
it used space meant for 8 panels to, as some seem to interpret, draw 3-5, as well as the panels not being of the same size
What do you think you're doing?
>Yuu making Chii-chan do all the work
Typical
>1+1=1
Yuu is very good at math.
She tries and that's all that matters
>You are arbitrarily saying that
I was actually going to give you a longer, more autistic response, but the fact you yourself arbitrarily decide that panels count as panels only if they're square and very restricted in nature should be enough to underline how even your basic premises are completely insane. I've been posting here long enough to see when someone is ready to go on a 12 hour shitposting competition about something that's painfully obvious apparently to everyone else than the poster himself, so I'll just dodge that bullet here. Have a good day and enjoy the thread, user.
look at that beautiful hand
>Tkmiz's existential dread allows him to be a talented mangaka
>mine makes me lay in bed ignoring everybody I know
Life ain't fair but I'm happy for him.
Yes, a very strong masculine hand.
inb4 tkmiz isn't even depressed and we're all just projecting. I mean he is pretty productive, which is something depressed people usually aren't.
If you want to stop arguing, than maybe don't accuse the other party of having "insane premises" and expect me not to keep defending myself
Just say that you don't have time to waste on pointless internet arguments and leave it at that
You can have your stance, but I will reiterate my argument
>First
in the picture you can see 4 clear scenes with in boundaries
The 1, 2 and 4 are pretty clear, with 3 being engulfed in branches, with one cutting across and splitting 3rd into seemingly 2 panels
Why I don't consider this "border" to be the same as others lies in the fact, that each border on the page contains a single scene
frame 1 is focus on Teach, frame 2 is a focus on the tree. They can not be the same frame as then you would have 2 teachers
Frame 3 focuses on a wide shot and while the vine interrupts the scene, it does not separate any narrative
Frame 4 focuses on the shimejis, self explanatory
>Second
The contents within in these 4 frames are self contained within the context of the page itself.
The only object that interacts with others on this page is the tree that originates from the bottom of the page. The branches of the tree are "above" the first 3 panels and "below" the 4th panel. This creates 3 "layers".
1st layer are the first 3 panels, 2nd layer is the tree, 3rd layer is the 4th panel. It is ambiguous whether the teacher is in the 2nd or 3rd layer, but she too originates from the bottom of the page. If she and the tree are the "5th" panel, the only tangible lines that could encompass both are the actual physical borders of the page it self
Here, 4 frames, where one uses the left and bottom borders of the page as panel sides
>Third
The shape of the panel is irrelevant and not the point
The point was why is one side scribble on the border not a panel while another is
What is the technical difference between the tree and the teacher from the waitress? There is none, both are framed the same, one is a focal point, that is it
The issue with this whole argument about whether Shimeji is a 4koma or not is that 4koma manga have 8 panels per page in 2 columns while both of the people arguing seem to think there should be only 4 panels. There shouldn't be only 4 panels on a page. Looking at the examples posted, SS does lean more towards a traditional manga in layout at times but the panels are all still rectangular. The area is just split however tkmiz wants while still being rectangular.
imagine pinning that hand roughly to the ground
Tsukumizu needs to become the first mangaka to use panels in the shape of a mobius strip.
>I mean he is pretty productive, which is something depressed people usually aren't.
I think it depends on how bad one's depression is, the factors causing the depression, etc. While I do feel a massive lack of motivation during many days, I can still push myself to do things I enjoy or that I believe will help my situation during which times the bad feelings start to fade away temporarily.
Personally I think it's supposed to be vaguely reminiscent of a 4koma in order to contrast with the very unconventional type of story, in the same way that it has many of the visual trappings of a generic daily school life manga but clearly is anything but.
It's running in a 4koma magazine though too isn't it?
Supposedly but says that a lot of the other series don't bother with the format either.
You might be right, but perhaps it is oversimplifying the matter to just talk about depression, there are many mental illnesses in the world, many reasons for being fixated on suicide/death in general, it's difficult to tell what's going on inside his head just from his work alone, without talking to him at all. In one of the afterwords for SSR he mentioned that drawing the taters maked him feel better, that he gets to experience their friendship at least vicariously through the manga, so perhaps drawing is therapeutic, maked him forget about the existential dread.
Or maybe he just takes his pills. Also checked
Look, the categorization of 4koma can be kind of arbitrary and I don't think it matter what you call it, with that said, Cune calls it a 4koma on their website comiccune.jp
>while both of the people arguing seem to think there should be only 4 panels
Please don't put words in my mouth. >A 4koma consists typically of 4 panels and border that surrounds them, generally you see it doubled to 8 panels
No, the argument arose about this one page This comment I argue that it is 4 panels with the tree and teacher constituting the "border" of the page.
Others believe that there are 5 panels.
Anyone who was arguing me could have easily posted one of the pages that has 9 or less than 8 panels, and BTFOed me on a "SS is not a true 4koma", but none did, and that wasn't my argument.
Not one person tried opening the first chapter and seeing that there is a page that would make by stance 10 times harder to defend, but not one posted it.
Also,
Autism
conventional 4koma
unconventional 4koma
conventional 4koma
very unconventional 4koma
unconventional non-4koma
the bottom right branches are obviously the 4th panel (and the bottom left panel is the 5th) that incompletely houses the two bubbles and the teacher (bubbles and characters have poked out of their panels before even in 4koma parts, this is just more extreme)
>Not one person tried opening the first chapter and seeing that there is a page that would make by stance 10 times harder to defend, but not one posted it.
What are you talking about, absolutely nothing in chapter 1 strays far away from the 4koma format while the one with the tree is obviously formatted as a non-4koma manga plus tree shenanigans.
This and the tree one are the only pages in the entire manga so far that don't loosely adhere to the 4koma format.
Again, why are the tree and the teacher a panel, while the waitress in this is not?
Because its more important to the narrative? Because its a focal points?
There are 4 distinct panels that are pushed to side by a very prominent element that is housed within the border
Because you can use my argument against me and say that there are 7 instead of 8 panels here, and other than drawing arbitrary lines beyond where the grass ends and above where clouds stop, I have no choice but to say that it is 7 panels
>Again, why are the tree and the teacher a panel
Because anyone who isn't autistic and has an IQ over 70 can see that the branches are deliberately meant to resemble a panel.
Also EVEN IF it were "the border" or whatever, the rest of the page has nothing to do with the 4koma format.
>while the waitress in this # is not?
Because the page already has 8 perfectly-4koma-style panels.
>Because you can use my argument against me and say that there are 7 instead of 8 panels here, and other than drawing arbitrary lines beyond where the grass ends and above where clouds stop, I have no choice but to say that it is 7 panels
Dropping and merging panels is fair game for the avant-garde style tkmiz has as long as you can look at the page and think "oh look this is like 4koma but not".
Honestly, even this one mostly just combines the top four into one panel and the bottom four into one panel. I would imagine that tkmiz probably starts out with the 2x4 layout and then combines and splits panels in whatever way seems to make the most sense for that particular page.
It's just that in , he combined the left and right panels, and then made new horizontal splits in places they don't normally go, which makes it a little harder to justify it as matching the normal 2x4 layout. However, considering that the panels are literally made out of the branches of a twisted dying tree, it's entirely possible that breaking the layout was intentional.
What rights do you have to call my /bant/ cringe?
>Honestly, even this one mostly just combines the top four into one panel and the bottom four into one panel.
Yeah, but the face in the top right.
Still, it's no where near as egregious as . Each row has a different height (the top row doesn't even match a double row heigth) and each panel in each row has a different width.
If you can look at and think "this totally looks like a 4koma" or at and think "this doesn't look like a 4koma at all" then something is seriously wrong with your brain.
> deliberately meant to resemble
The big green one?
>4koma format
But the original argument that started it all was that "it isn't 4 panels"
>Because the page already has 8 perfectly-4koma-style panels
Some pages have 9 panels, so that clearly is not the problem.
Both the tree/Teacher and Waitress come from off page.
The branches cut the bubbles off in the 3rd panel, but they are behind both the Teacher and her speech bubbles.
That is not the argument, its about panels.
If I claim that is 4 panels, than I also have to claim that has 7 panels.
And my counter argument is that if you claim that has 5 panels, then this has 9
>only uploaded 5 minutes ago
anonymous is a quickdraw
How do we know that's not Tkmiz in disguise?
>wake up
>feel like death
ah, the cycle begins again
Reminder to not trust Yuu for she is a cannibal eager to force chii into her dangerous ways, and she will try to spread this same influence to Shimeji and Egg-chan
The ride never ends.
h-hi tkmiz, have you checked your DM box yet?
Don't DM the Tkmiz
Please stop sending me pictures of your penis, this is the fourth time this week.
>If I claim that is 4 panels, than I also have to claim that has 7 panels. And my counter argument is that if you claim that has 5 panels, then this has 9
No. No you don't. You don't have to really claim anything. You see, here's the thing: all of your posts are really heavily reliant on this logic you came up with apparently by yourself that if A then B logically follows, which is absolutely untrue and not the case here, as you cannot establish any logical connection between these choices in art. You can't equate a stylised panel to a character that exist fully in a marginal, or to a text, or to sfx outside panel, what have you. The entire argument that "if you accept that the author writing a witty text between panels isn't a real panel, then you must logically accept that a panel that doesn't have borders isn't a panel" is completely untrue, baseless, and frankly only serves to showcase how your fight against something completely obvious has taken you to this bastardisation of logic.
And in case you don't actually, in all honestly just "get it" unless spelled out, there isn't a rulebook on how to objectively and correctly make manga, which means all of the artistic choices are completely up to the author. This also means that you can't establish a logical connection between panel types that you (for some reason) really hard try to do, but all of the art must be analysed with the context and authorial intent in mind.
I wasn't even the user you're arguing with, but this is all ridiculous. I can't believe you guys got started on something this fucking stupid and obvious and somehow made it into a real argument.
>artistic choices are completely up to the author
>there isn't a rulebook on how to objectively and correctly make manga
You are trying to paint me as if i am attacking the artist
This isn't about right or wrong, its about an interpretation of panel count (and by proxy artistic expression) of a certain page.
I am not arguing that the page is drawn wrong, I am not arguing if it fits or it doesn't fit 4koma, I am arguing that the page in question has 4 panels and uses the border of the page in a way to ingrate it into the story over all.
>that if A then B logically follows
No, my point is that if say that A is N because X, Y and Z, then I must, to avoid becoming a hypocrite, also say that B is N as it too has X, Y and Z. I have built an argument on talking points and of course I must stick to said points.
>bastardisation of logic
If that is how you label it, then your opinion is obviously made up.
I have several times explained why I do not believe that the Tree and The Teacher are part of a panel within the context of the page.
>"if you accept that the author writing a witty text between panels isn't a real panel, then you must logically accept that a panel that doesn't have borders isn't a panel"
Which is not my argument but your "bastardation" of it.
My argument is that there are 4 visible panels that follow the same structure and 2 elements that originate outside of the page, interact with the panels and can only be framed by the physical limits of the page itself, so I believe that these 2 elements do not belong to a panel but rather to the page overall, or, on the border of the page.
I have been reduced to Paint drawings, but I that is the only way it seems I can illustrate my point.
Can you tell me at what point does the blue guy go from being a "witty text between panels" to a "panel that doesn't have borders"?
I believe that there is no distinction and it can only be made on arbitrary terms.
This is my last defense. but one more reply.
>I can't believe you guys got started on something this fucking stupid and obvious and somehow made it into a real argument
The artistic interpretation of works is one of the principles of discussion of art.
You say yourself that there is no rulebook but you are determined that there is a 5th panel and denounce me completely.
The vague nature of the page is what gives said page an elevated artistic value as it sparked a debate about what is and isn't a panel.
Even if I was the only one who thinks this, I put fort my arguments over and over again on why I believed that there are 4 panels and the Tree and The Teacher are smarty utilized border elements of the same function as the Waitress and other similar doodles on the side, simply integrated into the story of the page and even put forth that I believed this separation added a whole new level and a way to perceive this page.
Here: >The separation of Teachers personal opinion from fact can represent how a student can zone out when a teacher starts rambling and only return back to the class when it ends
It may be the "wrong" interpretation and not the artists intention, but I did the best I could to stand by it.
I do not regret this debate
Titus's orgasm face is cute!
>it's an argument that will never be solved episode
>I believe that there is no distinction and it can only be made on arbitrary terms.
That was a lot of fucking words just to make to that inane point.
i want to make her make that face
Is that you, Agathafag?
He actually owns firearms in Japan? I know it's possible but practically only for hunters in rural areas.
>You are trying to paint me as if i am attacking the artist
I have never painted you this way, I'm bare bones saying you have to interpret the image by using methodology specifically fit for the analysis, for example, discussing authorial intent, and not some fucked up logic exercise that tries to prove analytical connections between factors that just are not there. I have never said anything about your opinion about the author. What I meant by "artistic choices are up to author" is exactly what I said: it does't concern you. It cannot concern you and your logic.
>This isn't about right or wrong
You can say this isn't about "right and wrong" but it's still definitely all about "sensible interpretation and fucking baseless nightmare interpretation"
>then your opinion is obviously made up
More news at 11, opinions aren't objective, right? But what is objective is the lack of connection between your A, N, X, Y, because things shouldn't be analysed this way. It's like saying "if there's a dog then it logically follows that I have a rock and there's a car". You can't decide there's a connection and use it as an argument.
>I have several times explained why I do not believe that the Tree and The Teacher are part of a panel within the context of the page.
And multiple anons have explained you why your interpretation is dumb so I try not to go there, but what I'm doing in my post is pointing out how your logic in supporting your argument is moot. This is specifically all I've said and I don't believe I have to explain why other aspects of your posts are wrong as I don't think there's much new to be said about that.
>The vague nature
There's nothing "vague" about the images in the thread. And I think I need to make this clear, even if I argue there isn't objective methodology in analysing art, I don't believe this means the intent in case is somehow so subjective it doesn't have clear an interpretation.
That's it.
Here anons, stop arguing and have a parfait.
But I asked for a flan?
I see a titty, user...
My apologies sir.
No you don't ...
Touhou more like Too-trash-4 u
As a netizen of 4channel.org I'll have to ask you to never post that parfait picture again, that tiny nipple I had to zoom in on to even identify offended me greatly. Thank you for your time.
What's she eating?
Truly I am most sorry mister Anonymous, I have thought about my actions and now I regret them dearly, I shall forever carry with me the shame of posting that abominable picture and I hope that you may one day recover from being so greatly offended, the picture I posted was most inappropriate and there certainly aren't any more such lewd pictures in mega.nz
A big guy
KIRBY!!!
VORE
What did she do for all of those?
Millions.
If you jump through all the hoops you can get a shotgun for clays and hunting and stuff and then after 8 years you can apply to own a rifle.
Huh, sounds exactly like Russia's gun ownership process.
Typeset when
Monday or Tuesday probably.
Why is Yuu blushing? I think she's cold.
She needs someone to warm her up.
I wish I could fit into a bathtub.
>true waifufags still exist on Yea Forums
Based
>ywn be able to hang yourself on a Nuko shrine
Fuck this gay earth.
You're a big guy.
>latest chapter
So is Tkmiz telling us that GLT was just Shimeji's dream about the two lesbos that works at Watson that she keeps running into?
How hard are you legally allowed to hit your Yuu? Where's the line between discipline and abuse?
Only Titus may hit Julius.
Can I make Yuu hit me with a bullet fired from a gun into my skull?
Yuu might be a cannibal, but she's not a murderer.
But I want it so it's more like assisted suicide.
She would still have to live with the trauma of killing someone for the rest of her life, you wouldn't want to do that, would you user?
I dunno man she seemed pretty ready to kill a couple times, taking it out on a nobody might be good for her.
Those times were in self-defense. If you want her to kill you I guess you could just pretend to attack her, instead of suicide by cop it's suicide by Yuuri.
I want to play vidya with the potatoes
What game(s) would you play?
I think they'd like Metal Slug
Actually I made a list of co-op games I think the potatoes might like
>Crash Team Racing
>Metal Slug
>XIII
>Castle Crashers
>Gunstar Heroes
>Ratchet and Clank
>Left 4 Dead
>Monster Hunter
>Borderlands (I'm not big into it but Yuu might like all the guns?)
Maybe Halo?
These are just off the top of my head. Some might not make sense I haven't slept in a long time.
Minecraft, they can finally build the house they dreamed of.
>Gives Yuu sand and gunpowder
>Yuu eats all the poisonous potatoes and dies.
Playing L4D with the girls sounds like a ton of fun. Also
>Heavily modded STALKER: Call of Chernobyl in ironman mode played late at night where we swap control between us after our characters eventually get eaten by bloodsuckers, vaporized in an anomaly, or die in any myriad of horrible ways
Modding the girls into L4D would be cool now that I think about it, I wonder if there's any models of them.
Don't be so wide about it.
If you want to see something pathetic, go onto TKMIZ twitter right now. TKMIZ has his first(?) heckler. Some little shit who's whole resume is a couple dozen bad guro images on pixiv is dissing TKMIZ for publishing "bad" "scribbles" while "real" "artists" like him/her are not getting paid after drawing two dozen images.
I peeked at the hecklers pxiv. We are talking school shooter levels of delusion here. And since the language of the post seems to be American, they may be a real future school shooter.
Just ignore them they're likely just an edgy kid that's probably a jealous faggot. Who cares what some random guy says on Twitter anyways outside of Yea Forums?
This post is very insulting to school shooter artists like erikku twitter.com
>If you put that shit in a gallery and remove the tags nobody would like it, they wouldnt even open the image
tfw have enjoyed tkmiz art before i even knew who tkmiz was just through random pieces I had seen on Yea Forums
People that can't draw should just do what I did and give up peacefully without being a dick.
Imagine thinking you can be a good artist through hard work alone without the kind of soul tkmiz puts into their pieces. Someone who does not recognize the ability to evoke emotion through artistry as more meaningful than detail is doomed to the sad fate of Thomas Kinkade.
>The Los Angeles Times reported that some of Kinkade's former colleagues, employees, and even collectors of his work said that he had a long history of cursing and heckling other artists and performers. The Times further reported that he openly fondled a woman's breasts at a South Bend, Indiana, sales event, and mentioned his proclivity for ritual territory marking through urination, once relieving himself on a Winnie the Pooh figure at the Disneyland Hotel in Anaheim while saying, "This one's for you, Walt."[38][39]
He really was a soulless piece of crap wasn't he? I went to school with a girl whose favorite artist was Thomas Kinkade. She was really hot.
>he openly fondled a woman's breasts at a South Bend, Indiana, sales event, and mentioned his proclivity for ritual territory marking through urination, once relieving himself on a Winnie the Pooh figure at the Disneyland Hotel in Anaheim while saying, "This one's for you, Walt."
Is this what they mean when they say "based"?
Never noticed the cirno before.
stop it you fags, it's petty
take note of the asshole and move on
hating on him isn't any more elevated than him hating on tkmiz
It's that time again, anons.
youtube.com
what if you don't have a soul or the motivation to do hard work
>being attracted to 3D women
>going to disneyland
No, both those things are cringe and bluepilled.
Who says you have to be attracted to a woman to fondle their breasts? Maybe he just did it because he felt like it.
Then you can stream drawing on twitch!
Be a NEET, silly
I'm way ahead of you by a couple years, user.
What do I do now?
But the scribbly nature of tkmiz's art is what makes it good. It feels more expressive, but still portays things like depth really well.
My only experience with the Twitch community is a normalfag saying I was a normalfag because I didn't know or like any of their shitty memes.
Nothing, you've already won. How many years, user? This summer is the beginning of my fourth.
If anyone posts the next thread early
I will find you
And I will kill you
You know as these threads pass I realize every week I tell myself I'll start doing something productive the thread archives to fill time between threads.
I don't remember how many months ago that was.
The weeks feel like they go by so fast even though I do nothing but mess around on the computer and sleep. I don't even know what productive would be.
Shit the thread's over.
What am I supposed do now? I spend all of my time here and Yea Forums threads have been shittier than
usual lately.
Do what you usually do I suppose, watch anime, maybe explore a board you don't go on much
last post for killing myself
no
I can't believe you've done this to me.
i need you alive to keep the threads quality, sorry
Goodbye lads, see you in the typeset thread!