Luffy used the technique that was definitely used that Rayleigh back then, but he was so desperate during the process he couldn’t remember how exactly he was able to do it. But what he just used surpasses the Ryuo that Grandpa Hyo was trying to taught him, if he could completely master it he’ll be able to save themselves from Big Mom’s punch.
Luffy and Grandpa Hyo were blown away when they try it for the second time and failed, Grandpa Hyo is fine because he was guarding with Ryuo. Ryuo, or Haki, is an invisible armor that you can use for both defense and offense, but if you take it a stage farther, the Haki will become a power so great that it can reach the interior of the opponent’s body and destroy them from within. Even though Luffy destroyed the collars from within unconsciously, but it’s good enough, after saying that Grandpa Hyo fall to the ground... Or so we thought, but he still has enough strength to dodge Big Mom’s attack and leave the rest to Luffy.
While chasing Luffy, Big Mom destroys the prisoner ironworks and head towards the melting furnace. If Queen couldn’t stop her, of course the others wouldn’t be able to as well. After regaining his consciousness, Queen has an idea and give out instructions to his subordinates.
>Rocks flashback >Oden flashback What other flashback will we get?
David Williams
hyiori's flashback, hyogoro's actual flashback, kyoshiro's flashback (may be the same as hyiori's), drake's flashback on why he left the marines (if he actually did and isn't a rocinante like undercover in kaido's group)
David Reyes
>Kaido cant be hurt/scratched on the outside >oh lets just give Luffy a power to destory things from the inside Genius, genius writing
Asher Cooper
I'm making an official apology to Queenfags. You were right and I was wrong.
Charles Turner
the Haki will become a power so great that it can reach the interior of the opponent’s body and destroy them from within. So that's Oda's ass pull for luffy to defeat Kaido and Big Meme.
Im just laughing at how everyone is MUH ROCS MUH PAST YONKUS and how not a single person will remember any of the ODENS flashbacks or anything at all to do with that laughing whoever who got shotted to death a couple of weeks ago or that this is supposed to be momosuke's time to shine as the future ruler who Oda loves to fellate every single time With reason the shills don't want to bring those "important parts of Wa no Kuni" because 20 Years Powers, yeah man, it's the greatest reveal of OP ever!!!
James Flores
just read luffy vs katakuri again how the fuck did luffy even win that fight? he tanked like 5x more hits and the ones he landed looked like they barely did any damage
David Wright
health is a different stat than stamina
Henry Walker
he's made of rubber
Juan Johnson
You are the reason this series is so mocked. Please user your fucking brain.
Don’t listen to those idiots who will defend literal shit. Luffy shouldn’t have won that fight but he did, and these retards will try to justify shit writing instead of admitting the plot bends for Luffy at will. This is shit writing that these retards do everything to justify
Anthony Nelson
>The guy who's constantly getting hit in his fights can take a punch better than the guy who's main gimmick is avoiding them
The only bad post time-skip design is Franky, really. Everyone else depends on your taste. I prefer short hair Nami.
Dylan Sanchez
personally I prefer preskip Robin, Nami and Franky, but I agree with you it's mostly nostalgia, I guess
Thomas Smith
Also flat Nami
Aaron Garcia
Luffy put all his stats into VIT obviously, kata went for DEX
Levi Myers
So is Oda this fucking genius who planned how to beat Kaido since then or was he just desperately scrounging through chapters to find some solution? Either way, that's pretty impressive.
James Rogers
and Zoro's Pre Kuina flashback
Dylan Fisher
>i counter with a picture Literal fucking retard
Carter Miller
No they’re not
Thomas Cox
>Good luck Mochi faggot, I'm hidden behind 50 health bars!
Katakuri defending with two Block Mochi arms was still sent flying and spitting blood from a Kong Gun like Doflamingo. At that point it should have been obvious that Katakuri's defense was nothing impressive, Luffy only had to land hits past his future sight dodging.
Jackson Martinez
>is Oda this fucking autist FTFY
Jordan Phillips
chopper was murdered
Tyler Rogers
I doubt Oda was thinking of 'advanced armament haki' when he wrote Rayleigh removing the collar, or when Sentomaru did that palm thing, but who knows really
Benjamin Murphy
>Ryuo, or Haki, is an invisible armor that you can use for both defense and offense Cant wait for the chapter to come out so i can save thing panel and shove it on the face of everyone that kept saying "hardening is visible" Thats literally just his way of saying "better haki use"
Luffy should have mid diff'd Cracker and just BARELY won against Katakuri. Instead he struggled - and would have lost without Nami - against Cracker, and did shit all against Katakuri. Now we're supposed to believe he can go up against the likes of a Yonko. Oda's writing and pacing is terribly off.
Lucas Howard
>mid diff
Fuck off
Anthony Collins
>Luffy learns all this shit in the past by Rayleigh >Only actually remembers his training and things Rayleigh did at convenient times >Masters them in a couple hours/days at max despite having had two years to do this
It's such poor justification to actually give Luffy growth over time. I know it's Luffy of all people, but it seems kind of insulting at times towards the reason he needed to get stronger in the first place.
Robert Carter
O MY RAYLEIGH FLASHBACK
Evan Ortiz
I mean not really, Rayleigh did say thay he only had time to teach him the basics, the rest Luffyvis going to learn on his own
Ryder Mitchell
He ded
Blake Gomez
I just fucked up the manga with this nonsense energy that can make any idiot the strongest man, what if I let it even worse?
Facts Kaido can be hurt from outside Luffy already hurt him.
Blake King
Without haki logias would be overpowered and people without powers would never be top tier. Haki balanced One piece's powerscaling, change my mind
Easton Clark
Katakuri let him cause he liked him and didn't want him to die.
Juan Foster
Yeah, but now haki's become the very thing it was meant to rectify. Having advanced observation and armament pretty much means you shit on anyone who doesn't have at least one of these.
Not really, Katakuri had advanced CoO and probably advanced CoA and yet Luffy was able to compensate it with his gears. Advanced haki is only obligatory when dealing with monsters like the Yonko
Gabriel Bell
Logia users could be stopped by seastone weapons, the serie showed other tecniques to make non users stronger, as that CP9 to get faster, Zoro has ashura, Sanji put fire on his legs and also do sky walk, there were manners to fit non users in battle with devil fruits user. Inserting a doubtful energy that makes people see the future, see auras and get an energy armor just breaks the balance of force on the universe, and now people can fucking attack the inside of the opponent.
Jace James
Kata caught the fever
Easton Davis
and even then, Queen captured Big Mom out of pure luck, and could easily throw her in the ocean to kill he without breaking a sweat
Daniel Stewart
We literally had a training flashback of Luffy remembering Rayleigh teaching him how to see the future and dodge accordingly, hell we've seen Luffy do it before Katakuri. There is a difference between Haki balancing Logia, writing with intelligence (ie: Crocodile/Enel), and then having Haki be this Godlike Power that can do almost anything.
Josiah Cruz
Queen shouldn't have ever gotten up from Big Mom in the first place.
Hunter Gray
>and now people can fucking attack the inside of the opponent
>preskip Robin this, I can't recognize her without her signature hair
Brayden Reed
Lord of the Coast wasn't a sea king, surely?
Christopher Sanders
>We literally had a training flashback of Luffy remembering Rayleigh teaching him how to see the future
he didnt teach him you fucking speedreader he just warned him about people seeing the future, he was just training basic observation in the TS
Lincoln Long
I like Queen and I'm fine with the outcome, but lets be real, he shouldn't have ever gotten up. So far we've only seen basically Akainu and Blackbeard tank a Yonkou properly, one of which became a Yonkou and the other is the WG (Non Secret Society Shenanigans) Endgame.
Owen Green
We all know Mama is by no means a calm sleeper. I expect some crazy shenanigans to occur on that ship.
Liam Morris
Zoans are established to have crazy endurance, especially ancient types, and Queen is a billion-bounty commander, it would be retarded if he got one-shotted
Lincoln Ramirez
>yfw Vivi comes back to the crew for Raftel and knows tons of Haki
Christian Turner
why didnt shanks use haki to protect his arm?
Easton Cooper
i think it makes perfect sense for an ancient zoan at commander level to get back up from two punches from big mom
Nicholas Watson
the alternative to haki is to either give luffy a seastone weapon (which is a terrible idea because he's mainly a brawler) or to have every single fight against a logia user take place in an area where their weakness is conveniently available like they were a zelda boss.
Samuel Lopez
>Queen is a billion-bounty commander, it would be retarded if he got one-shotted Reminder that Bounties aren't a reflection of power level but of threat to the WG, so yes, he should have gotten shut done after that.
>Bounties aren't a reflection of power the villains just happen to be progressively stronger and have higher bounties then? obviously bounties aren't exactly power level but you don't get a huge bounty like 1 billion without being really strong.
Camden Fisher
did you just call the rokuogan an impact dial?
Xavier Mitchell
>I like Queen faker
William Young
eh, with precog logia users cant even dodge luffy effectively anymore.
Parker Gonzalez
>or to have every single fight against a logia user take place in an area where their weakness is conveniently available like they were a zelda boss. Yeah because water was conveniently available against Crocodile and Oda didn't think of a clever use of blood right?
Oh or how about with Akainu and Vulcanization? Or using the heat of Gear 2nd and blood pumping against Aokiji? Or having Kizaru vs. Blackbeard, as a means to deal with external threats without Luffy? I don't know man, seems like there are plenty of ways to go about writing things.
John Long
No I was bringing up another, older concept that functioned identically to make fun of retards who think this is new.
Elijah Harris
Yes, because Enel's bounty on the ocean would have been 500 million as stated by Oda, which is up to Ace/Marineford Levels and higher than what Moria's was.
They're getting higher because we're getting closer to Yonkou Territory and Endgame characters who are a direct threat to the WG and the power balance. For instance Luffy sure as shit had a higher bounty than the rest of the Supernovas and Law would have absolutely destroyed him back then.
Jack Lee
>Logia users could be stopped by seastone weapons Only if he was a weak fuck, with their fluid body they should be able to easily dodge them, plus sea stone is rare >Zoro has ashura Wouldnt do shit against a logia >Sanji put fire on his legs and also do sky walk Wouldnt do shit against a logia unless it it was either Aokiji or Monet >Inserting a doubtful energy that makes people see the future, see auras and get an energy armor just breaks the balance of force on the universe Not when almost everyone in the new world knows how to use it
Gavin Long
He did, Sea Kings are dangerous because they can nullify haki to a certain extent. Which is why Lord of the Coast didn't pass out like everyone else that has been hit with CoC, he only ran away.
Jackson Sullivan
Katakuri literally proved this wrong by warping his body around Luffy's attacks. Any Logia can do the same.
Christopher Martinez
Why didn't Shanks just teleport towards him with insane speed and kill him right then and there? Luffy took him down with a single punch after all.
Bentley White
>For instance Luffy sure as shit had a higher bounty than the rest of the Supernovas Oi
>implying Shanks couldn't jump from the shore to the Sea King that fast
There is no excuse for Shanks losing his arm other than him doing it on purpose just to give Luffy some more motivation.
Anthony Harris
Not really. He’s lived in relative safety for his entire life, and it was said many times that power only blooms in combat risking your life.
Logan Smith
for all we know Shanks hadn't trained in haki at that point
Bentley Morales
Looks like junk, The Mammoth was a way better looking ship.
Jeremiah Carter
He was on Roger's ship, I'm sure he knew what Haki was and had begun training in it.
Hunter Lewis
so was Buggy, he didn't know shit
Jaxson Howard
Buggy doesn't need your stupid powers to be a powerful God, he does it through sheer charisma and strength.
Carter Cruz
>jaiminisbox is down What the fuck bros, i just woke up and was hoping i'd read the chapter.
Logan Anderson
The vivre cards imply Shanks was already a Yonko when he met Luffy
Christian Stewart
>sheer charisma and strength WHOSE NOSE HAS A RED WAVELENGTH?
Josiah Bell
>forgetting that he was a Yonkou by this point thanks to the Vivre Cards
Dylan Adams
Why is jaimini's down bros? What is happening?
Jaxson Campbell
They didn't pay their yakuza overlords all the ad money and donation gigs Now they are all dead because the enforcer got a bit too zealous roughing them up
Samuel Nguyen
Shanks is so strong he became a Yonko without haki.
Joshua Wood
Shanks could've become a Yonko without mastering armament, he's a good enough swordsman to go toe to toe with Mihawk and was able to use CoC,
Joshua Ramirez
That's just the power of comedy.
Christian Watson
>yonkou can casually go fuck bitches and get drunk on the weakest sea and no one wants to take over his lands
Either he has impressive fleet, or others don't want to clash with him
Cooper Ward
Because no among of haki can stop a seakings jaws closing on your arm. Haki doesn't make you invulnerable.
Hudson Parker
>and then having Haki be this Godlike Power that can do almost anything. Haki isn't a godlike power that can do almost anything. A person with a zoan fruit in CP9 would 9/10 cases beat almost anyone from Amazon Island that isn't Boa.
Nathaniel Ortiz
id go with the latter since he is so respected
Nicholas Young
Mhmm. We've seen him as a Yonkou just piss off to random locations all the time. Also that likely is the case, he did stop Kaidou after all and there was no talk of an actual battle back then. Granted, he probably just got drunk with him, but that says enough.
Aaron Howard
>just read luffy vs katakuri again >how the fuck did luffy even win that fight? >Don’t listen to those idiots who will defend literal shit. Luffy shouldn’t have won that fight but he did, and these retards will try to justify shit writing instead of admitting the plot bends for Luffy at will. This is shit writing
Was Luffy vs Katakuri too high IQ a fight for the fanbase?
Katakuri hadn't been hit in years so he wasn't used to pain and when he stabbed himself he was also getting weaker over time.
Amazing how you still have retards who can't figure this out.
Common shitposts about the fight include:
>katakuri was beating snakeman with the same ease as base luffy No he wasn't Luffy was hitting him more often then before. >muh observation haki Luffy had upped his OH then but Snakeman was used because it circumvented Katakuri's observation. That's why there was an emphasis on his arms accelerating.
All in all I'd give the fight a 9/10 taking into account the art, writing style, panelling etc etc. Easily one of the best shounen fight in the past few years.
He was just shaping the Mochi to different things and then hardening it. But by that logic, tons of DF users can do this type of thing.
Logan Howard
Things don't just instantly die when you cut them. Shanks couldn't even get Luffy out of the way without getting clipped. He could have chopped the Seaking in half and the head would still have chomped the little Luffster.
Jacob Bennett
Boa bitch smacked Smoker into the dirt and casually took out Pacifista. Pre-timeskip Lucci wouldn't have stood a chance.
you have to be lusting after her for it to work. Lucci is an emotionless assassin.
Nathaniel Nelson
Luffy's island must've been the booniest boonies that ever booned then, if nobody there knew what one of the most notorious pirates in the world looked like.
Nami's only real difference these days is her hair, once she opened her eyes back up to full size they were fine. At the beginning of the timeskip he drew her with Robin's eyes and it was not a good fit.
No she just conveniently fell asleep after regaining her memory.
Asher Johnson
>no break next week One of the best chapters in this shitty arc.
Benjamin Jones
idk, Queen's attack obviously had enough force to give her brain a shock and even for Big Meme I would think a dinosaur jumping onto your head would be pretty devastating
Isaac Lee
he never colored his hand black back then
dicksucker
Cooper Russell
I am getting tired of luffy luck.
Jordan Lewis
she regained her memories because of the attack. no idea what made her sleep, but it was probably a result of shock after regaining her memories. queen won
>shrugs off getting "beaten in two hits" >formulates an ingenious plan >defeats Big Mom using his head Bring the funk, brothers.
Nolan Hill
But that's what the anti-queenfags told me.
Jayden Flores
Just by luck.
Mason Carter
The shock from Queen's attack made her lose consciousness retard.
Joseph Rodriguez
Haki is the worst thing to happen to One Piece.
Luis Torres
The falling asleep thing was just something the ESL spoiler guy said, it makes a lot more sense that she dropped because a dinosaur jumped from a mountain and flying headbutter her
Josiah Ortiz
lol that's what queenfags believe.
Kevin Taylor
>imgur.com/a/hpKQryb THE CHADDEST EVER. My jaw literally dropped when I read Luffy say this.
This. Sure is convenient for the plot. Plus we saw her snoring in this chapter.
Jeremiah Clark
Because she's sleeping. She noticed Queen and fell asleep. Which is understandable since she was extremely tired and hungry on her way to Udon.
Matthew Richardson
This. It ruined the elemental rock-paper-scissors that Oda set up with Logia-Zoan-Paramecia.
Cameron Ramirez
Yo bro, i was in this sick bar fight last night, i got punched in the head bro! I didn't pass out as soon as it happened like everyone else ever, I was fine for a bit. Infact I was more coherent as ever! then I just passed out. It happened, yep, everyone knows when you're knocked out you are fine for awhile. It's a delayed effect, everyone knows taking a punch is like taking a pill!
Because Big Meme is a plot device and not an actual character
Owen Anderson
QUEEN CHADS RISE UP
Julian Miller
>rock-paper-scissors its more like nuke-paper-scissors, but okay
Tyler Kelly
It doesn't change the fact that she's sleeping. Why are we arguing about something so obvious?
Jaxson Morgan
They are genuinely mentally ill.
Juan Robinson
Logia-beats-Zoan-beats-Paramecia-beats-Logia used to be the set-up in OP. Haki ruined that so that it no longer matters what fruit you have, you can just HAKI HARDER BRO I GOT THE CHOSEN HAKI OH MY WILL OF D It sucks It ruined the pacing and removed all steaks
Gavin Lee
This chapter was peak one piece
Aiden Gonzalez
>Liked being called Mama Awww how sweet You're gonna be losing it all here Linlin
Why didn't Luffy stay conscious for a while after Kaido one shot him? Why didn't he start remembering shit?
Thats how getting knocked out works isn't it?
Hunter Gomez
Jaimini's is down so where the fuck can I find the chapter?
Zachary Anderson
CHAD QUEEN>BIG MEME
Jose Rogers
so now we're teaming up with the big mom pirates to save big mom too
this chapter was a mess
Angel Allen
>Paramecia beats Logia Luffy was a hard counter for Enel and found out Crocodile's weakness that anyone could exploit if they're strong enough. How would having a random paramecia help?
Alexander Morgan
This thread.
Anthony Gonzalez
BigMemefags are mentally ill and refuse to see reality. If they ever had any intelligence they wouldn't like this fat plot device to begin with.
Josiah Russell
This week's chapter is legit the funniest in months
Sleeping is jobbing? People can never agree on what this word means
Benjamin Foster
That's the whole point of the RPS-set up, the hierarchy between Devil Fruits. But haki removed that, removing all steaks in the process. Haki was a huge mistake.
Adrian White
we saw marco, vista and rayleigh use haki against admirals
not a limb or weapon colored black
go find another hack's dick to suck faggot
William Bell
CHAPTER WHEN
Nicholas Fisher
Found it, thank you.
Chase Reed
How Oda got his groove back.
Caleb Adams
This. I can’t remember the last time I’ve laughed this hard
Brody Price
This pic will always be relevant
Aaron Rodriguez
>so now we're teaming up with the big mom pirates to save big mom too ???
Oda started the black coloring because haki became more plot relevant and he needed a way to show it, no need to seethe over it
Lucas Cox
Queen>O-lin
Sebastian King
They just used invisible haki. Rayleigh used black haki offpanel.
Zachary Wilson
he obviously fucked up and should have not done so. that way the constant was that haki posts? would be far more productive to the head in ass "readers" who post here.
Lucas Barnes
I can't believe O-lin is fucking dead bros.
She was my favourite character...
Jonathan Allen
logias are literally the strongest and rarest of the three genres, there was never a L>Z>P>
iirc haki is invisible to those who don't master it
Connor Hall
I'm fine with this. The quicker we get to Onigashima, the better. Ever since we found out both Kaido and Linlin were crewmates, I've wanted to see an interaction with them discussing their history together. This will be very interesting
Alexander Bailey
BM falling asleep doesnt make any sense. And dont tell me it was Queens Headbutt, it didnt even seem to be an impressive hit. The weight of a dinosaur would stop Little Garden Luffy, let alone Big Mom
Also Oda has NEVER drawn snot bubbles in someone knocked out, even on a delayed effect. Did you see a snot bubble on blueno's nose?
Reminder that the only thing that indicates that black haki is actually visible in universe is Zephyr being called black arm and he's a non canon character from a non canon movie that gets stuff like how seastone works wrong.
Luis Anderson
>BM falling asleep doesnt make any sense. She was tired
Zachary Diaz
>unfunky fans of big thot are this butthurt that our dinosaur put her in her place
GUYS, GUYS, REMEMBER WHEN ONE PIECE FIGHTS WERE CREATIVE AND THEY USED STRATEGY AND UTILIZED THE ENEMIES' WEAKNESSES INSTEAD OF ABUSING HAKI?
LIKE THAT ONE TIME LUFFY FOUGHT CROCODILE OR THAT ONE TIME WHEN LUFFY WENT UP AGAINST CROCODILE OR UHHHHHHHHHHHH WHEN LUFFY FOUGHT CROCODILE OH AND THEN AND THEN WHEN LUFFY FACED OFF AGAINST MR. 0
the point is that hackda retconned it just like he came up with armament haki halfway through the story
Caleb Bennett
>Nami didn't understand how Sentoumaru managed to attack Luffy back at the first time they've met at Sabaody >no known haki user is shown with black coating prior to Marineford, e.g: admirals defending the execution pillar using Ryuuou
Julian Reyes
They're all yours to find, I left em in One Steak™
fuck off wanpissodacocksucker there's no fucking crunch sound effect oda makes this shit up as he goes along
Andrew Price
I can't wait!
Isaac Myers
>this faggot just happened to be nearby when Linlin ate everyone >he wasn't scared and decided to help her Is fate a thing in One Piece? This is some gravity bullshit straight from JoJo.
Adrian Torres
For this victory, Queen gets first dibs on Smoothie's weakling pussy! He'll fuck her into unconsciousness ahegao in two minutes and spit on her pathetic face!
Jaxson Thomas
>and enel YEAH, REMEMBER WHEN LUFFY CAME UP WITH AN IDEA OF FINDING ENEL'S WEAKNESS INSTEAD OF HIS BODY AUTOMATICALLY BEING THE WEAKNESS ITSELF? >and arlong YEAH, REMEMBER WHEN LUFFY USED A STRATEGY AND/OR ABUSE ARLONG'S WEAKNESS LIKE UHHHHHH >and wapol YEAH, REMEMBER WHEN LUFFY USED A STRATEGY AND/OR ABUSE WAPOL'S WEAKNESS LIKE UHHHHHH >and buggy YEAH, REMEMBER WHEN LUFFY USED A STRATEGY AND/OR ABUSE BUGGY'S WEAKNESS LIKE UHHHHHH >and mr 3 YEAH, REMEMBER WHEN LUFFY USED A STRATEGY AND/OR ABUSE MR 3'S WEAKNESS LIKE UHHHHHH >and magellan YEAH, REMEMBER WHEN LUFFY DEFEATED MAGE-WAAAAAAAIT A MINUTE
Aaron Gray
>WBP >>> BP White Beard pirates were fucking shit, even Jack could defeat them by himself.
Ryder King
>hackposter having a meltdown right now Haki really is the best thing to happen to this series
Teach certainly believes in fate and it seems to have worked out for him so far. Also ironically >Teach believes in fate but spends his time planning shit >Luffy believes in freedom and choosing his own way but trusts in blind luck
Benjamin Young
tbf all of those were weak to really hard punches.
Asher Thompson
yeah Kaido had to work hard to get to the top
Jordan Price
Disgusting. I didn't think queenfags would be so degenerate. I expect posts like this from the jackfags
Nathaniel Wood
novel geometric use of his fruit to match their fighting style
fuck.... FUCK chapter this week was really good, for now, we need to retreat on our Discord and think about strategy, simply spaming buzz words like "asspull" won't do anything this time
the burden of proof falls on proving something's existence first, otherwise anyone could claim literally anything they want and get away with it because there's no practical way of disproving it like religious people
Aiden Bell
You don't have to worry about Luffy when you have Kaido Big Mom is 100% the #1 priority and nothing else matters.
Jaxson Lewis
This would be a top-tier fruit on modern world. Imagine never spending money on groceries again. Just pick up some rock from the backyard and turn it into a steak
Adam Taylor
He's transporting fucking Big Mom.
Adrian Stewart
Big Mom is a much more valuable prisoner to secure right now
Luffy is just some retard who got btfo in 1 hit by kaidou.
Ayden Davis
Queen used his strongest attack on tired and hungry Big Mom who just awakened from amnesia
Cameron Lewis
>literally engaging the capsfag Pathetic.
Luis White
Where was he sleeping before Udon?
Nathaniel Anderson
Luffy couldn’t use armament haki at the time, but he still saw the black fist. Armament can be visible or invisible.
Dylan Myers
Not even a Queenfag but it's really hard to not like the guy. He's clearly a bad guy and does somewhat evil shit, however he isn't comically evil and actually is fun by his own merit. He's just some guy who wants fun. Jack, for example, is only fun because of all the bullying (but 90% of those are due to Yea Forums blowing it out of proportion).
Connor Turner
Luffy was the one who beat Mr 3 with Gomu Gomu Stamp, though.
Zachary Campbell
>Just pick up some rock from the backyard and turn it into a steak the food made with his fruit tastes like shit though.
Christopher Anderson
>both All-Stars BTFO Big Meme Charlottefags are having a bad day, if Jack pulls one off as well the BM pirates will be a complete joke.
I invented Jack bullying before we saw it in the manga, feels good man.
Jack Morales
>Queen used his strongest attack No he didn’t.
Andrew Peterson
Place your bets on babanuki being the first victoim of advanced armament haki here!
Hudson Perez
The joke is that jack has less character then queen, despite jack being around for like 4 years at this point.
Jose Hughes
>No he didn’t. Yes he did.
Caleb Powell
>His strongest attack. That's just headcanon. Queen hasn't even used his hybrid form.
Michael White
Sure, but he was still worried about securing the prison. He should've just completely given up on the entire prison knowing that Luffy was still there. Even for Queen it would've taken a while to capture/kill him (in his mind), which he couldn't risk in that position. But instead he just completely forgot about Luffy like a retard.
Logan Torres
>you need hybrid form to unleash your strongest attack confirmed retard
Nicholas Murphy
Again, no one is talking about the last hit. Big part of Mr3 loss was because his wax was super sensitive to fire. Elemental advantages.
Chase Baker
I'm not sure about this since I can't recall when it was mentioned, but I remember Rayleigh telling Luffy that armament haki is basically "invisible armour."
Isaac Bennett
Well it sure was that way for Lucci.
Oliver Stewart
The thing is, Queen using anything but his strongest attack in this context would be abslutely retarded and a true act of hackery. He had one chance to take her down.
Nolan Mitchell
>Haki can destroy people from the inside We Hokuto no Ken now?
Let's hope King gets an equal amount of development. Jack is kinda fucked though, he's doomed to getting wrecked by minks,
Cameron Roberts
I think Queen could have added some somersaults to the Brachio bomb.
Nathaniel James
>Strongest Attack >Not even in his awakened form Stop embarrassing yourselves Big meme keks
Josiah Lopez
Lucci was using Rokushiki, Zoan just empowers his strength and speed, Queen doesn't have any technique like this he just uses his enormous Zoan form to destroy enemies with pure strength nice headcanon
Joshua Wilson
Big Mom seems to go into a stupor once her tantrums subside. We've seen it several times now.
There's something going on with her. We'll probably get the full story in the elbaf arc.
Ryder Young
Bet money he doesn’t use it again when he goes all out. He didn’t even use Haki.
Austin Barnes
If that was queens strongest attack, thats depressing. The post you are replying is showing luffy split a city in half. Fujitora could rain island erasing meteors The hits between Luffy and Katakuri left massive craters. And queens ultimate attack is a headbutt. This would only confirm that the 3 calamities have high defense but jackshit for offense
That would be a Brachio spinning bomb >Queen doesn't have any technique like this he just uses his enormous Zoan form to destroy enemies with pure strength nice headcanon
Grayson Johnson
>queen and jack both have blond hair >queens is inked in and jack's isn't FUCK this hack
Andrew Roberts
>Queen doesn't have any technique like this he just uses his enormous Zoan form to destroy enemies with pure strength I didn’t know we’d seen how Queen fights already. I thought he’d use his metal arm, but whatever.
Christian Thompson
>He should have just completely given up on the prison No, that's not professional at all. There's a bare minimum security/autonomy you have to maintain in your workplace even in times of crisis. It's called business continuity planning.
Nicholas Williams
>wearing gloves I hope you're being ironic
Luke Robinson
That's not haki, that's the old pre time-skip Paramecia-beats-Logia I was talking about earlier.
Jacob Phillips
Everything so far in the series points to hybrid Zoan forms packing the most power >Lucci >Monster Point >Every awakened Zoan shown assuming hybrid forms
Noah King
Speedreader, did you not read any of Vergo and Smoker’s fights?
Jace Brown
>Queen doesn't have any technique like this he just uses his enormous Zoan form to destroy enemies with pure strength Nice headcanon. He didn't use haki yet and hasn't even attempted to use any other technique yet.
Samuel Hughes
Me too
Ryder Hall
Hakiless Luffy couldn't even touch smoker, and that page is post time-skip, retard.
Landon Ross
color aesthetics ≠ black&white aesthetics
David Murphy
And then Vergo went full n*gr* vs Law when he was serious. What did Oda mean by this?
Luke Thompson
There's also Cracker's biscuit shields
Jordan Ortiz
Not an argument.
Kevin Ward
They all look like shit in colour anyway
Levi Perry
>Queen is so fucking Based that he turned Big-memers into complete meltdown I wasn't a Queen fag before this chapter, but I fucking love him now.
Joshua Wilson
But I loved this chapter
Joshua Thomas
I don't know what's your point here. Are you able to see through Luffy's pale skin behind that red glove?
Christopher Bailey
Then why didn't he use his strongest technique against Big Mom in his only chance to hit her? And after she shrugs it off he shit his pants? Bad writing? >If your attacks don't destroy a lot of terrains then they are weak Oh ok check the new 2 chapter It depends on your fighting style, Lucci uses Rokushi, techniques that require a human limb, to fight, Queen doesn't have any of this, he just uses his Zoan form to tackle his opponents He uses Haki no stop, what the hell are you talking about
Jose Nguyen
>left to right Fuck off
Asher Lopez
What the fuck are Big Mom's jobber kids doing anyway?
Benjamin Lewis
>Hakiless Luffy couldn't even touch smoker yeah, thats not an argument but a FACT >that page is post time-skip Thats another FACT. As you don't have any argument refuting any of those FACTS I accept your concession, you retard faggot.
Kevin Miller
Udon and Luffy are not important when Big Mom is in your territory and she's asleep. EVERY SECOND COUNTS, get her to Kaido asap
Aaron Robinson
Chilling on the boat
Alexander Jenkins
because big mom randomly goes to sleep as shown by her flashback be happy queen's best attack did enough damage to atleast get her memory back
Dominic Hill
>queen was literally crying that his best attack didnt work >BROS QUEEN ISNT A JOBBER
Austin Anderson
That brachio bomber was funny unironically
Jordan Butler
You can see black armament on Smoker and Vergo’s black gloves in PH. If Luffy was using black armament, you’d have seen it.
Jonathan Russell
You know what's funny? A headbutt to another person's head is as damaging to the attacker as it is to the target. Queen took a beating and the recoil damage from the headbutt but is still fine. Queen's durability>Big mom's.
David Nguyen
Nigger show where he uses haki this chapter. His head isn't armored he just went Chris Benoit on it
His neck didn't even break from his own body weight.
This means that Queen knew he could tank Big Mom because apparently Queen's head and neck have amazing endurance.
Carter King
It actually depends on how you headbutt someone. If you do it right, you don't take damage.
Brandon Powell
>If your attacks don't destroy a lot of terrains then they are weak >Oh ok Yeah, basically thats whats been established in the previous 950 chapters. We seen BM sword swings causing large holes from very far, we seen kaido erasing a castle with one laser, every single punch from white beard would shake MF Kuzan and Akainu permanently turned an entire island into a fire / ice hell
Daniel Davis
niggerstream strikes again
Christian Watson
Bullshit.
Luffy would be a pussy ass bitch if Queen was still there.
Big Mom saved Luffy's ass.
Dominic Brown
How did Garp punches hurt Luffy? He didn't use haki because his fist wasn't black
I like to give reminders to the speedreaders here. Mama would've ended up falling asleep sooner or later
Jose Hill
Absolutely disgusting
Sebastian Turner
Queen didn't use his best attack on his one chance to put down a Yonko that straight up blitzed him earlier? Is that why he was literally crying after it didn't work?
Jack Wilson
Found the retard.
Ryan White
Continues to call Big Mom an Old Hag even though she said not to call her that.
At least Queen didn't run away from Big Mom unlike the beta coward like Luffy.
Queen forms plans on the spot.
Meanwhile, Luffy has to beg for help from Capone in a shitty wedding cake plan to try to defeat Big Mom.
Jace White
Stay spunky, Queen the Funky!
Blake King
>completely and utterly missing the point of the simple line that relates to the main character's well-established character motivations How do these people function?
Jaxson Wright
queenfags turned out to be coping retards, pass hopefully kyoshirofags aren't later on
Lucas Foster
In the manga Garp has an aura flame similar to Rayleigh around his fist
Jace Flores
But BM never said anything about pain this chapter
Isaac Hughes
That’s not queens strongest attack, but it’s still a giant fucking Brachiosaurs getting knocked directliey on your skull.
Ethan Jackson
and Rayleigh was able to stop Kizaru without doing any of this And Katakuri despite being strongest Big Mom child only destroy like few pillars in mirror word And Garp one shot Chinjao without destroying anything else Guess all those attacks were just weak
Parker Walker
No black haki = No serious shit. >Why didn't he use his strongest technique to hit her!!! It doesn't make any fucking sense!! Why didn't Luffy use King Kong Gun vs Doffy from the start? Why didn't the One Punch Man guy spam his king punch during Dressrosa arc? Those stuffs have conditions especially in this formulaic shounen manga. If Queen needs to have his feet on the ground and facing his opponent to use his instead of sneak attacking from above, then he definitely couldn't have used his.
>It depends on your fighting style. Exactly and you don't fucking know Queen's. You're just assuming shit right now.
Kevin Gonzalez
>Everyone saying big mom jobbed when queen didn't even hurt her All He did was make her get her memories back, are all of you fucking idiots? next chapter shes going to fucking murder queen.
Grayson Butler
Queen doesn't use his own men as meat shields.
Queen literally sacrifices his own body to take down Big Mom.
This is why Queen is better than Luffy.
Luffy needs a shit ton of people to get hurt before he could take down Doffy.
Isaiah Bailey
>only actually put big mom to sleep with his one chance strongest sleep attack >she ended up getting her memory back >the man with a bounty that's higher than yours is now free in your prison along with 2 other supernovas >do absolutely nothing in response and run off Will King save these faggots?
Nathan Richardson
>Queen didn't even use haki when he jumped on Big Mom's head. Queen's hair its obviously coated in haki.
If he lost weight his signature attack of falling on people would be less effective.
Ayden Rivera
>If you do it right. Exactly, and headbutting someone right in their fucking skull isn't doing it right at all.
Easton Rogers
What about Mihawk telling Zoro to coat his blade black?
Gavin Hill
>queen is better than luffy can queenfags get any lower?
Logan Miller
Queenfags are fso ucking pathetic. Sad.
Juan Hall
>Queen didn't use his best attack on his one chance to put down a Yonko that straight up blitzed him earlier? No
Parker Adams
This, he knew of her narcolepsy and that she was tired and hungry the whole way there. He was crying and shitting his pants like a faggot because he knew he won.
Samuel Myers
OH SHI-
Brandon Nelson
Well, not like I like that, but it's literally a plot point, just like Zoro's. These two retards are gods' favorites.
Wyatt Allen
Goda pls
Cooper Diaz
Unlike Luffy who needs his hand held in every arc with convenient flashbacks
Samuel Rogers
Big Mom should be prioritized a million times before Luffy. Regardless of what happens in the prison, Kaido can fly in and one-shot that rubber boy anytime after BM is dealt with.
Asher Lopez
Episodes 895 and 896 will be STAMPEDE filler. So, we'll be taking a 2-week break from Wano during that time
Juan Thompson
>defeats Big Mom using his head kek
Andrew Anderson
>Just a few pillars Katakuri and Luffy completely fucking obliterated the entire scenery mirror world, though. >Rayleigh vs Kizaru Indeed, they really were just fucking around. Kizaru hasn't done any of his damaging moves.
This makes me angry as fuck. Movie tie in filler is always the worst.
Jason Sullivan
Source?
Luke King
>No black haki = No serious shit. Ah ok so Whitebeard is trash tier below Bellamy, same goes for Sengoku, Garp, Admirals, Sentomaru etc >Those stuffs have conditions especially in this formulaic shounen manga That's your problem shounen kid, you can't use your own brain. Queen doesn't have any reason to not use his strongest attack in his only chance to hit Big Mom. I ask again if you answer me to this one question I apologize for this whole discussions Why didn't Queen used his strongest attack to stop Big Mom? Answer with manga panels only, I will ignore your headcanon >Exactly and you don't fucking know Queen's. I know, i read the last two chapters when we watch him fight, the fucking chapter name was "O-lin vs Queen" did you speedread it too?
Eli Cooper
What purpose would that serve? It would literally just be >Sensei, please take me as your pupil because X reasons Zoro is from the East Blue, Koshiro is from Wano.
Elijah Ross
You know Appo joined the Beast Pirates as well and haven't been seen.
Queen is not the Warden of Wano Prison and nobody has been mentioned as the Warden.
Could it be possible the Prison Warden is actually Appo.
What happens if Appo shows up and stalls or defeats Luffy?
>Ah ok so Whitebeard is trash tier below Bellamy, No he just didn’t use Hardening. If you need me to convince you that Whitebeard is above Bellamy even without using Hardening, you’re beyond help. Your arguments are trash and easily BTFO-able.
Noah Barnes
It's been 10+ years since that scene and a lot of kids read OP.
Logan Allen
It's such a stupid idea. ID had this too, but at least it had a movie bait built-in. Now you're starting an arc built up for seven years, complete with a series revamp and trailers dropped a month before the release (with some teases shown before) and then you're going for a two-week for a filler break a month in?
>Her leg isn't black You don't need the nog Haki to touch a logia you speedy. Luffy did the same against Caesar
Joshua Ross
as far as we know no-one in world sees the black haki
Lucas Mitchell
>nobody has been mentioned as the Warden Babanuki.
Lucas Sanders
But I thought you say >>No black haki = No serious shit So Whitebeard was holding back the whole time? Maybe he didn't really want to save Ace? What's now? Even when he was fully enraged by Ace death he still didn't use black haki According to your logic Bellamy haki>Whitebeard haki
Jacob Stewart
This. The desperation of some of these arguments is laughable.
Cooper Lee
If body parts aren't black then there's no Haki, neither Queen or Hancock knows haki
Caleb Williams
>So Whitebeard was holding back the whole time? His health prevented him from using Conquerors Haki. He was clearly incapable of going all out.
Oliver Martin
Well, it's not like Wano is super interesting or something like that.
Rayleigh and Sentomaru and Boo disprove this. Basic haki is invisible. Black is concentrated.
Kayden Mitchell
And that's the reason why he couldn't use black Haki He could create tsunami, split island in two and two shooted Admiral but he couldn't do a thing that Bellamy can do ok
Gabriel King
Got it, thanks. Normally there are 4 episodes though so I wouldn't be surprised if there were two more unannounced ones.
John Stewart
MIhawk's blade is actually black, like the metal is black
I'm sure blood pumping faster will help when Akainu is freezing you in seconds. Did you fucking read Marineford? He froze the OCEAN in the blink of an eye. >Blackbeard Not a traditional Logia, Luffy, and anyone, really, can hit him just fine.
Chase Clark
Post more cursed translations
Austin Perry
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Josiah Thompson
That's the point, with many using of haki the swords become black for real
Lincoln Hall
Glad we agree
Brody Williams
>If body parts aren't black then there's no Haki, neither But that's not how it is in the manga? Are you telling me to follow your made up rules instead of the actual Canon?
Sebastian Edwards
How about this: Haki is invisible to those who can't use it
I hope the anime does a hard rock theme for the brachio bomber, also what was oda's deal this chapter, he had like two pages of Queen without his moustache and multiple times without the robot arm?
Leo Richardson
Of course, we both agree that Whitebeard haki is shit compared to Bellamy, same goes for Sengoku Rayleigh and Admirals they could learn haki from Bellamy
Easton Wright
Disproved by a non-haki using Luffy seeing Rayleigh’s black fist pre-skip.
Anthony James
>Yes, because Enel's bounty on the ocean would have been 500 million as stated by Oda, which is up to Ace/Marineford Levels and higher than what Moria's was. And if Luffy conveniently hadn't had a DF power that completely negated Enel's, they would have lost, horribly. Reminder that literally only Luffy could stand up to Enel, everyone else got bodied hard in moments. 500 million is also pretty much just up to the first islands of the New World, where literally everyone worth their salt knows how to use Haki, which incidentally makes Enel a fucking pushover, because he's physically pretty weak.
James Sanchez
I wonder how the person who translated this feels about his translation getting memed on so hard
Easton Peterson
He's a Brachiosaurus. They've got incredibly hard skulls.
Nathaniel Green
You misunderstood my post. Whitebeard’s invisible haki> Bellamy’s hardening.
Adam Powell
Haki is visible whenever Oda feels like it because he's a fucking hack.
Connor Murphy
Love
David Robinson
>didn't even hurt her how fast do you read these things?
>Whitebeard was serious WB had a fruit that does more fucking damage than any Haki attack ever will. >Answer with manga panels only. How about you start first? In what panel did Queen state that it was his strongest attack or used his top tier haki skills. The burden on proof is on the guy who first made a claim. >Did you speed read it too? I read it well and slow, and Queen didn't do Jack shit, like literally Jack shit. It was just big mom tossing him like a ragdoll. How could you deduce Queen's fighting style from panels of the guys getting tossed like a fucking ragdoll? Did you also assume that Katakuri was a ranged fighter who spams beans from one chapter of the guy doing barely anything?
Aiden King
nope, Black haki is the real shit, Bellamy>Whitebeard
Wyatt Bailey
>All He did was make her get her memories back, because it was a strong enough hit to phase her
Joseph Ross
>Katakuri was a ranged fighter who spams beans from one chapter of the guy doing barely anything? >Katakuri has the bean bean paramecia >can conjure and manipulate beans >shooting beans all day erry day Would have been amazing, tbqh.
Josiah Baker
underrated
Oliver Clark
>plauge Queenbros, are we actually illiterate?
Kevin Bell
He's saying any sword can be turned black with haki.
Michael Wood
It's been a while since I enjoyed a chapter.
James Adams
I am addicted to Wano
Eli Nelson
>Manga shows him throwing it so fast we don't get to see it >Anime doesn't show anything and instead they added suspense that it just blew up right on them but the smoke clears and they are of course unharmed
